Re: [digitalradio] Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Mark Thompson wrote: *Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies* Of course, the problem with Winlink is that since Winlink stations do not, as a matter of policy, listen before transmitting, there is a grave risk that a Winlink station will interfere with other emergency traffic. Other forms of emergency communication (the main ones, i.e. stations manned by human beings) do not have this flaw, because they listen before transmitting as required by the laws of essentially all countries. de Roger W6VZV
[digitalradio] Digital mode contest : North American High Speed Meteor Scatter 2007 Gemenids Test
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Re: [digitalradio] Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
It can also clog up our bands. For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Do we really need 262Kb emails like this on HF - Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Mark Thompson wrote: *Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies* Of course, the problem with Winlink is that since Winlink stations do not, as a matter of policy, listen before transmitting, there is a grave risk that a Winlink station will interfere with other emergency traffic. Other forms of emergency communication (the main ones, i.e. stations manned by human beings) do not have this flaw, because they listen before transmitting as required by the laws of essentially all countries. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Could you set up an automatic archive of these PACTOR transmissions, like the various ones that exist for SSTV? Leigh/WA5ZNU --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250
Re: [digitalradio] Re: FDMDV confusion
Thanks I did get the wright program this time, will be looking for some signals to make sure that the rec is working, but I will have some more question about this program. Thankx Russell NC5O --- nj2e [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Russell Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is FDMDV the same as DRMDV and if not where can I find FDMDV program. I have melp_1400.dll and melp_dll.dll, but the program I download was DRMDV. Thanks Russell NC5O --- w6ids [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell, It is not the same mode More like WinDRM. You can find it at http://n1su.com/fdmdv/ 73s Don NJ2E = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair NC5O Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also clog up our bands. For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Do we really need 262Kb emails like this on HF That's an interesting observation. Maybe you could keep some statistics on message lengths - it seems like Winlink ought to have a severe limit on message length. And then forwarded do-gooder emails are the bane of regular email as well as radio-forwarded mail. When I see FW in the subject like of a message I almost always delete it without reading. The few exceptions are when the rest of the subject line shows it is something related to a current topic that I am interested in. There is a book United States Army in Vietnam, Military communications, a test for technology. It is very dry reading, being official history, yet it gives some insights into why the U.S. was losing the war. There is a passage about someone sending a message with Operational Immediate precedence, which means it blocked all messages of lower precedence, and it was so long it took 8 hours of operator time to punch into tape before it started transmitting. Then took several hours to transmit.
[digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can also clog up our bands. For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Do we really need 262Kb emails like this on HF Well, Do we really need contests, ragchewing, voice qsos, voice nets, cw qsos, cw nets, on HF? Realy it all depends on what each individual wants to do! Your millage might vary! It's a hobby OM! Each guys pleasure might be someone else's discomfort, but when an emergency arises then I think that everyone else's hobby needs must back off for a while until the emergency is over. I think this is fair! When human lives are in danger then everything else should be of a lower priority. 73 de Demetre SV1UY
[digitalradio] Re: New Digital Voice Mode FDMDV
Olá Cesco ! O Arnaldo PY4BL, fez um ótimo contato hoje em FDMDV com IZ2GAF Doriano, com boa qualidade de audio em ambas as estações, em 14236kHz as 20:53Z ! Ele está mandando os parabéns e um abraço para você ! Tenho uma outra sugestão: para mudar mais facilmente a tela display, seria interessante você acrescentar em Settings, Sound, About a opção View, onde seriam colocadas as opções de Display (Waterfall, etc...) 73 de Roland. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, cesco12342000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Roland, Parabéns pelo FDMDV ! Obrigado. Muito feliz de ver seu mail ! Tenho uma sugestão: Seria melhor se a frequencia de transmissão fosse FIXA, A nova versao vai ter uma opcao a de voltar ao centro da banda. Tambem concertei o auto-tune. 73, Cesco, HB9TLK
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
If you are monitoring a Pactor transmission, or preserving same for archival purposes, it must be FEC. My understanding is that all Winlink 2000 transmissions are Pactor ARQ. Methinks something stinks here:) David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leigh L Klotz, Jr. Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Could you set up an automatic archive of these PACTOR transmissions, like the various ones that exist for SSTV? Leigh/WA5ZNU --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250
Re: [digitalradio] Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Some will never ending complain about anything and everything. Bottom line - it worked and very well.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
You wrote: it must be FEC. My understanding is that all Winlink 2000 transmissions are Pactor ARQ. Methinks something stinks here:) Well I assure you it doesn't stink! There are many programs which will monitor Pactor ARQ. For instance MultiPSK, Digipan, MixW. 73 Sholto KE7HPV. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Demetre SV1UY wrote: Well, Do we really need contests, ragchewing, voice qsos, voice nets, cw qsos, cw nets, on HF? Realy it all depends on what each individual wants to do! Your millage might vary! It's a hobby OM! Each guys pleasure might be someone else's discomfort, but when an emergency arises then I think that everyone else's hobby needs must back off for a while until the emergency is over. I think this is fair! When human lives are in danger then everything else should be of a lower priority. 73 de Demetre SV1UY The contests, ragchewing, qsos, nets, etc. that you reference ARE ham radio. Sending internet emails over the air to no purpose whatever, without even listening to see if the channel is clear, is NOT ham radio. It is abuse, which is what Winlink mostly is. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: Some will never ending complain about anything and everything. Bottom line - it worked and very well. Actually, I doubt that Winlink did much of anything. The original post read a lot more like a PR effort by people with an agenda than anything of substance. I've done disaster communications in fires, earthquakes, and drills, and Winlink never amounted to anything. I doubt that has changed. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Correction: it was Pactor 1 ARQ I was monitoring and yes, it was Winlink. 73 Sholto KE7HPV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies I am confused. Sholto said it was Pactor 2, not Pactor 3. I don't know that Winlink is involved at all. But there is so much mystery about these modes, and it seems like an archive would be a good idea. I set up one for SSTV but got tired of deleting the unseemly images, but others have set up really nice ones. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 3:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are monitoring a Pactor transmission, or preserving same for archival purposes, it must be FEC. My understanding is that all Winlink 2000 transmissions are Pactor ARQ. Methinks something stinks here:) David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leigh L Klotz, Jr. Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Could you set up an automatic archive of these PACTOR transmissions, like the various ones that exist for SSTV? Leigh/WA5ZNU --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Sholto Fisher wrote: It can also clog up our bands. For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Do we really need 262Kb emails like this on HF No, what we need is FCC enforcement to prevent this sort of abuse. de Roger W6VZV
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
I am confused. Sholto said it was Pactor 2, not Pactor 3. I don't know that Winlink is involved at all. But there is so much mystery about these modes, and it seems like an archive would be a good idea. I set up one for SSTV but got tired of deleting the unseemly images, but others have set up really nice ones. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 3:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are monitoring a Pactor transmission, or preserving same for archival purposes, it must be FEC. My understanding is that all Winlink 2000 transmissions are Pactor ARQ. Methinks something stinks here:) David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leigh L Klotz, Jr. Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Could you set up an automatic archive of these PACTOR transmissions, like the various ones that exist for SSTV? Leigh/WA5ZNU --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
Then it was non B2F, and that makes it possible the message was attempted, however, buffer overrun would have stopped it's transmission long before it got to 50K mark. Pactor I cannot handle the B2F Compression used within the WinLink 2000 system with Airmail as the host, except for small text-only messaging. Pactor III and ARQ would take a large capability for processing and a CPU that was capable of true multiprocessing using a compliant operating system to decode, as proven back in 2005 when this argument originally surfaced. It should be in Snopes by now. David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sholto Fisher Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:05 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Correction: it was Pactor 1 ARQ I was monitoring and yes, it was Winlink. 73 Sholto KE7HPV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:leigh%40wa5znu.org org To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies I am confused. Sholto said it was Pactor 2, not Pactor 3. I don't know that Winlink is involved at all. But there is so much mystery about these modes, and it seems like an archive would be a good idea. I set up one for SSTV but got tired of deleting the unseemly images, but others have set up really nice ones. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 3:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dalite01%40bellsouth.net net wrote: If you are monitoring a Pactor transmission, or preserving same for archival purposes, it must be FEC. My understanding is that all Winlink 2000 transmissions are Pactor ARQ. Methinks something stinks here:) David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leigh L Klotz, Jr. Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Could you set up an automatic archive of these PACTOR transmissions, like the various ones that exist for SSTV? Leigh/WA5ZNU --- In digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensw http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php eb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies
David, If it was using Pactor 2 would Winlink accept the message/attachments? or is the 50K limit applicable here also? 73 Sholto KE7HVP - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Then it was non B2F, and that makes it possible the message was attempted, however, buffer overrun would have stopped it's transmission long before it got to 50K mark. Pactor I cannot handle the B2F Compression used within the WinLink 2000 system with Airmail as the host, except for small text-only messaging. Pactor III and ARQ would take a large capability for processing and a CPU that was capable of true multiprocessing using a compliant operating system to decode, as proven back in 2005 when this argument originally surfaced. It should be in Snopes by now. David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sholto Fisher Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:05 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Correction: it was Pactor 1 ARQ I was monitoring and yes, it was Winlink. 73 Sholto KE7HPV - Original Message - From: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:leigh%40wa5znu.org org To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies I am confused. Sholto said it was Pactor 2, not Pactor 3. I don't know that Winlink is involved at all. But there is so much mystery about these modes, and it seems like an archive would be a good idea. I set up one for SSTV but got tired of deleting the unseemly images, but others have set up really nice ones. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 3:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dalite01%40bellsouth.net net wrote: If you are monitoring a Pactor transmission, or preserving same for archival purposes, it must be FEC. My understanding is that all Winlink 2000 transmissions are Pactor ARQ. Methinks something stinks here:) David KD4NUE -Original Message- From: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leigh L Klotz, Jr. Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:42 PM To: digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winlink Can Be Reliable in Emergencies Could you set up an automatic archive of these PACTOR transmissions, like the various ones that exist for SSTV? Leigh/WA5ZNU --- In digitalradio@ mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For instance I am monitoring a Pactor 2 transmission on 30m that has been on going for around 25 minutes so far and the latest email to go through is titled: FW: Please read til the end-Why boys need parents...269250 Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensw http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php eb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links