Re: [digitalradio] I, am a Pactor Robot............

2008-01-16 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Jack Chomley wrote:

  The subject says it all. I run a Pactor mailbox, just like the Packet
  mailbox that I used to run, many years agojust like MOST of you
  did, back then too. I am just another Ham, TRYING to enjoy my
  hobby...

  73s

  Jack VK4JRC

We understand, Jack.  But please remember the Three Laws of Robotics 
that govern the behavior of you Robots:

1.  A Robot shall not harm a human being (including QRMing a human 
being) or, through inaction, allow a human being to be harmed or QRMed.

2.  A Robot must obey the orders of a human being but only if such order 
does not conflict with the First Law.

3.  A Robot must protect its existence, but only if such protection does 
not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

So, you see, when a Pactor robot QRMs others, it is violating the First 
Law.  Can't do that.

Hey, sorry for the sad attempt at humor.  Some of my best friends are 
Robots.

de Roger W6VZV



Re: [digitalradio] I, am a Pactor Robot............

2008-01-16 Thread Jack Chomley


Jack Chomley wrote:
 
  The subject says it all. I run a Pactor mailbox, just like the Packet
  mailbox that I used to run, many years agojust like MOST of you
  did, back then too. I am just another Ham, TRYING to enjoy my
  hobby...
 
  73s
 
  Jack VK4JRC

At 11:06 AM 1/17/2008, Roger wrote:

We understand, Jack. But please remember the Three Laws of Robotics
that govern the behavior of you Robots:

1. A Robot shall not harm a human being (including QRMing a human
being) or, through inaction, allow a human being to be harmed or QRMed.

2. A Robot must obey the orders of a human being but only if such order
does not conflict with the First Law.

3. A Robot must protect its existence, but only if such protection does
not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

So, you see, when a Pactor robot QRMs others, it is violating the First
Law. Can't do that.

Hey, sorry for the sad attempt at humor. Some of my best friends are
Robots.

de Roger W6VZV

I can't deliberately QRM anybody!  My SCS PTC-IIPro Mailbox can sit 
here active, for 100 years and do nothing, UNLESS someone tries to 
connect to it.
Once a connection is established, it lasts as long as the connectee 
wants to stay connected :-)
They choose when to disconnect, not the mailbox.
So.my Robot mailbox is controlled essentially by any people 
connecting to it. It does not just fire up by itself :-)

73s

Jack VK4JRC






Re: [digitalradio] I, am a Pactor Robot............

2008-01-16 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
So tell me (and others)  how  someone operating a mode with
a waterfall display and seeing a signal (so be it a pactor signal)
QRM that ongoing keyboard to keyboard QSO?

It seems to be that *any* pactor signal is fair game for anyone
that   *only*  knows that is a pactor signal to QRM it.

John, W0JAB


At 07:06 PM 1/16/2008, you wrote:
1.  A Robot shall not harm a human being (including QRMing a human 
being) or, through inaction, allow a human being to be harmed or QRMed.

2.  A Robot must obey the orders of a human being but only if such order 
does not conflict with the First Law.

3.  A Robot must protect its existence, but only if such protection does 
not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

So, you see, when a Pactor robot QRMs others, it is violating the First 
Law.  Can't do that.

Hey, sorry for the sad attempt at humor.  Some of my best friends are 
Robots.

de Roger W6VZV



Re: [digitalradio] I, am a Pactor Robot............

2008-01-16 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker, WØJAB wrote:

  So tell me (and others) how someone operating a mode with a waterfall
  display and seeing a signal (so be it a pactor signal) QRM that
  ongoing keyboard to keyboard QSO?

  It seems to be that *any* pactor signal is fair game for anyone that
  *only* knows that is a pactor signal to QRM it.

  John, W0JAB

A complete non-sequitur, John.  The problem is robots acting as 
low-budget email providers QRMing ordinary amateurs.  Not the reverse.  
Ordinary non-Pactor digital mode ham ops never intentionally QRM anyone. 
  Anyway, the number of Pactor QSOs is so small that I doubt it ever 
happens.

By doing what they do, these Robots are violating Asimov's First Law of 
Robotics.  [see generally I, Robot; see also The Robots of Dawn].  
This is not permitted, John. 

It has to stop, John.

de Roger W6VZV