[ACFUG Discuss] HostMySite observations?
For those of you who have been hosting your or your clients' sites on HostMySite for a number of years, how would you describe their quality trend over time? Thanks in advance for your replies. Respectfully, Adam Churvis Productivity Enhancement
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] openCFML Foundation
Hey, remember the firestorm over this: Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively soon), Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of ColdFusion via the open source route as well, rather than by trying to dump it on another company. Caught about twelve yards of hell over that one. It will be interesting to see what happens. I hope everyone's doing well. Been a long time. Adam On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:41 AM, John Mason ma...@fusionlink.com wrote: Indeed some interesting moves lately. And just to be clear, I actually think that could be the best possible future for CF going forward. Sort like with Spoon.as/Apache and Flex, it could provide a new chance for life. The corporate Adobe umbrella I think has been more of a problem than anything, so finally breaking free might be the best possible way for CF to find new ground. Adobe has bigger challenges anyway, so it would help them to stay focused on their core issues. John ma...@fusionlink.com On 5/18/12 7:16 AM, Mark Fennell wrote: Perhaps JM's call of the last Adobe CF is more real than speculation and Adobe is planning on releasing CF into the open source universe much like it did with action script. It would be a stretch, but perhaps Blue River picked up on that in conversations with Adobe and kicked up involvement in the Open CFML Foundation? All of this is mere speculation. On 5/18/2012 1:03 AM, Charlie Arehart wrote: Well they've sailed still farther out of the harbor: http://img.ly/imYv /charlie -Original Message- From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Josh Adams Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:53 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] openCFML Foundation Well, okay: I meant to send that reply back only to John, not to the entire discussion list. But since I did send it to the list, let me add a little clarity: last year the ColdFusion BU was in discussions with Blue River (the makers of the mura content management system) about partnering for mutual promotion (Adobe of mura and Blue River of ColdFusion). It seemed to me good progress was being made there so I was therefore surprised to see Blue River's involvement in the Open CFML Foundation. Clearly in the intervening months the Blue River guys have had a change of heart about what's best for their business--and as I said, I take no exception with that but it is of course disappointing from the Adobe perspective. Josh On 5/17/12 10:46 PM, Josh Adamsjoad...@adobe.com wrote: Are you at cf.Objective()? Or just following news online? It's interesting to me that the Blue River guys are involved in this: just in August I thought we were making good progress in relationship with them. I guess things have changed. I brought this to the attention of the ColdFusion team when I heard about it; from there it's up to them how to handle Blue River. Disappointing from an Adobe perspective (though I certainly don't begrudge the Blue River guys doing what they deem best for their business). Josh - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Adam Churvis Productivity Enhancement - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] openCFML Foundation
I'd expect Adobe to take 12 to 16 or more financial quarters of profits on CF before making any big changes though... I don't believe Adobe has made a profit on CF for quite a while. Unless I've missed my guess, CF10 is a Hail Mary Pass investment by Adobe to see if it can gain relevance with its very best efforts. They'd really much rather stop having its healthy divisions subsidize CF's further development. They also have trend charts showing who develops on what, and impartial third-party analysts that tell them why. Adobe doesn't publicize a breakdown of which products rake in the most revenue, or post profits by division. By hiding this data, investors see a big portfolio of diverse products that look great on the skin packaging, which in turn inflates their perception of value in the company's stock. If shareholders saw the details then they would demand some serious surgery. Maybe over the past six years since I made my original statement, people have come to understand a bit more of the true motivations of large corporations, especially since those motivations are codified into federal laws that prevent these publicly-traded companies from doing anything that is not in the *sole* interest of the shareholder. This is what I tried to communicate six years ago with the intimation that Adobe was only interested in increasing its stock price, and that that would come at the expense of everyone else -- this list's participants included. In trying to illuminate something I thought others were blinded from seeing by their love for the product, I ended up hurting a lot of feelings and making many people very angry. I hope this time it comes across in a kinder, gentler form that people will find more agreeable. It also helps that many are seeing the writing on the walls. Adam PS-- Cameron, were you at the Hadoop meeting last night? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
Ed, Load testing software is just a tool; effective load test design and load testing require experience in the craft. We can either come in and analyze the problem, design the testing regimen, setup your team with the right testing and analysis tools, and then train your team how to operate and maintain everything, or you can outsource your load testing project to us. Call me if you have any questions, or if we can be of service to you. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF on a Mac--anyone have a system they want to sell?
Charlie, We have an eMac you can have, but I don't know if it will serve your needs. It's just the wrong side of being able to run the OS version needed to run the Safari version that supports AJAX, so we had to upgrade our machine. Might need to borrow it back for an hour or two if we ever need to test against non-AJAX Mac browsers, but I highly doubt it. Call me if you're interested. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Arehart Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:31 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF on a Mac--anyone have a system they want to sell? Hey folks, I have a client asking me to help them with moving from running CF on Windows to running it on a Mac, and I've toyed with getting one to help with some software we also use at church. So while I've used a Mac I've not yet run CF on it and want to get some experience with it over the next couple of weeks. So does anyone here have one (whether a mini, a laptop, a desktop, or a server) that they may want to sell at a reasonable price? I'm not looking to run it in production, so no need for it to be especially powerful, or even perfectly functioning. I've got one offer for a mini that I could pick up prior to tomorrow night's meeting (which if you haven't seen the announcements, will include both prizes and an important Adobe announcement). I'm assuming I can run CF on any Mac (any of the models, and whether Intel or not), as long as it's a G4 or above and OS 10 or above. If anyone has thoughts that I might want to consider as I contemplate running it on something like a mini, feel free to chime in. Most important, if anyone has a system they'd like to have me consider, feel free to drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or feel free to call me at 678 358 3046, before tomorrow afternoon. Thanks. /charlie - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster
Remember that CFLOGIN's roles don't work across a cluster with CF; they only work with BlueDragon, AFAIK. So if an already-authenticated user is getting kicked out when he tries to go to a different server and there is a test on the destination page for membership in one or more roles (in other words, testing for authorization rather than just authentication), then that might be it. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clontz Jr., Lee Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:22 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster Hey, everyone - We're implanting a CF7 cluster in a new university Web hosting environment and we've hit a few snags. Unfortunately, clustering seems to be one of the more poorly documented aspects of CF administration, so I was wondering if anyone had some input. We currently have two Web servers behind a load balancer, each connecting to a two-node CF7 cluster with J2EE session variables and session replication turned on. We have JRun sticky sessions turned off. In doing this, and in migrating sites to the new architecture, we've hit on some strange problems: CFLOGIN session replication seems to work intermittently, particularly if the CFLOGIN block is within a method without Application.cfc/cfm. We have a developer who creates an XML session object which throws a serialization error. Components, in general, seem to be dodgy when hopping nodes My question, then, is twofold - 1, does Adobe assume you'll be using sticky sessions when clustering CF and 2, does anyone know of any good resources on understanding exactly what works and what doesn't in clustered environments? Thanks very much, - Lee _ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster
No. It's because CFLOGIN is broken in CF. They never put in a mechanism to communicate a user's roles between servers, no matter which mechanism you used. We worked directly with New Atlanta to fix it in BD a couple of years ago. I don't know if CF8 fixes the problem, but I doubt it. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Fore Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:26 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster I don't have any experience with it, but isn't that the point of the cookiedomain attribute in the cflogin tag? From the online docs: Specifying the Internet domain Use the cookieDomain attribute to specify the domain of the cookie used to mark a user as logged-in. You use cookieDomain if you have a clustered environment (for example, www.acme.com, www2.acme.com, and so on). This lets the cookie work for all computers in the cluster. For example, to ensure that the cookie works for all servers in the acme.com domain, specify cookieDomain=.acme.com. To specify a domain name, start the name with a period. Caution: Before setting the cookie domain, consider the other applications or servers in the broader domain might have access to the cookie. For example, a clustered payroll application at payroll1.acme.com, payroll2.acme.com, and so on, might reveal sensitive information to the test computer at test.acme.com, if the cookie domain is broadly set to .acme.com. On 12/17/07, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember that CFLOGIN's roles don't work across a cluster with CF; they only work with BlueDragon, AFAIK. So if an already-authenticated user is getting kicked out when he tries to go to a different server and there is a test on the destination page for membership in one or more roles (in other words, testing for authorization rather than just authentication), then that might be it. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clontz Jr., Lee Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:22 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster Hey, everyone - We're implanting a CF7 cluster in a new university Web hosting environment and we've hit a few snags. Unfortunately, clustering seems to be one of the more poorly documented aspects of CF administration, so I was wondering if anyone had some input. We currently have two Web servers behind a load balancer, each connecting to a two-node CF7 cluster with J2EE session variables and session replication turned on. We have JRun sticky sessions turned off. In doing this, and in migrating sites to the new architecture, we've hit on some strange problems: CFLOGIN session replication seems to work intermittently, particularly if the CFLOGIN block is within a method without Application.cfc/cfm. We have a developer who creates an XML session object which throws a serialization error. Components, in general, seem to be dodgy when hopping nodes My question, then, is twofold - 1, does Adobe assume you'll be using sticky sessions when clustering CF and 2, does anyone know of any good resources on understanding exactly what works and what doesn't in clustered environments? Thanks very much, - Lee _ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf http://www.figleaf.com Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf http://www.figleaf.com Software To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster
And just so you know, literally *everything* you mention in your post works flawlessly using BlueDragon.NET. Want components instantiated in the Session scope to jump from node to node without problems? Employ any one of the available session object syndication mechanisms available to ASP.NET and it just works, period. We use ScaleOut StateServer because it scales out to about 64 boxes on a single cluster without even hiccupping, and it has many advanced features we like a lot. Built-in freebie Windows OS-based syndication mechanisms peter out after two boxes (what do you want for nothing?), so it's best to use a robust third-party product like ScaleOut. Oh yeah - and CFLOGIN really works, too. While this info may not help you on your current project, it will help you on any in the future. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clontz Jr., Lee Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:22 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Challenges with CF7 cluster Hey, everyone - We're implanting a CF7 cluster in a new university Web hosting environment and we've hit a few snags. Unfortunately, clustering seems to be one of the more poorly documented aspects of CF administration, so I was wondering if anyone had some input. We currently have two Web servers behind a load balancer, each connecting to a two-node CF7 cluster with J2EE session variables and session replication turned on. We have JRun sticky sessions turned off. In doing this, and in migrating sites to the new architecture, we've hit on some strange problems: CFLOGIN session replication seems to work intermittently, particularly if the CFLOGIN block is within a method without Application.cfc/cfm. We have a developer who creates an XML session object which throws a serialization error. Components, in general, seem to be dodgy when hopping nodes My question, then, is twofold - 1, does Adobe assume you'll be using sticky sessions when clustering CF and 2, does anyone know of any good resources on understanding exactly what works and what doesn't in clustered environments? Thanks very much, - Lee _ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). - Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com - - Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com -
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF8/Garbage Collection/Performance
In addition to the great info John gave you, here's Robi's take on things...
http://www.robisen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=FD4BE2FC-55DC-F2B1-FED0717
CC1C7E0AF
...and a follow-up with more good stuff:
http://www.robisen.com/index.cfm?mode=entry
http://www.robisen.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=39E0B0C6-55DC-F2B1-FBBDB7
0CEC963D6D entry=39E0B0C6-55DC-F2B1-FBBDB70CEC963D6D
Hope this helps.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhancement
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Mason
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:39 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] CF8/Garbage Collection/Performance
My article on JVM tuning will answer several of your questions..
http://labs.fusionlink.com/katapult/index.cfm?page=articles/jvmtuning
Even if you are running on a non Ent version of CF. You can still use
SeeFusion trial (for up to 2 hours) and FusionReactor has a trial as well.
When you had or doing the monitor running. What did you see? You have a gig
for your heap size. Are you filling that up several times a day? Basically
you need to find the problem and fix it CF coding first. Playing around with
the JVM could simply make your situation worse.
John Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
770.337.8363
www.FusionLink.com - ColdFusion and Flex hosting
Now offering ColdFusion 8 Enterprise hosting
FREE Subversion hosting
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Stell
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:16 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] CF8/Garbage Collection/Performance
Im looking into performance issues with an application running on CF8.
One of the things Im checking is the GC ,
Does anyone know how to pragmatically invoke GC? I know you can manually
click GC if you have Server Monitor available in CfAdmin (which I did until
the 30 days was up and the Standard Edition limitations kicked in).
I know also through Server Monitor you can create alerts that can be based
on memory stats. and that this alert can invoke GC. Can this alert be
created/managed pragmatically?
Based on the JVM Arguments, CF/Jrun will do GC regardless of such alert
existing or not - correct?
The server has a single 2.40Ghz Xeon3220 proc and 2 gigs of ram
Its running Microsoft Window Server 2003/Web Ed. SP2 / IIS / CF8 Standard
(8,0,0,176276).
Its only use is as a CF8 application server.
Java Version is 1.6.0_01.
The JVM Arguments are:
java.args=-server -Xms1000m -Xmx1000m -Dsun.io.useCanonCaches=false
-XX:MaxPermSize=192m -XX:+UseParallelGC
-Dcoldfusion.rootDir={application.home}/../
-Dcoldfusion.libPath={application.home}/../lib
-Dcoldfusion.classPath={application.home}/../lib/updates
,{application.home}/../lib,{application.home}/../gateway/lib/,{application.h
ome}/../wwwroot/WEB-INF/flex/jars,{application.home}/../wwwroot/WEB-INF/cffo
rm/jars,c:\\coldfusion8\\cfx\\java\\CFX_PDF.jar
Never had to deal with the JVM... so I'll be reading up on it this weekend,
but does anyone see any obvious problems with the JVM Arguments?
-
Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com
To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @
http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform
For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists
Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/
List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com
-
-
Annual Sponsor - Figleaf Software http://www.figleaf.com
To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @
http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform
For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists
Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/
List hosted by FusionLink http://www.fusionlink.com
-
-
Annual Sponsor FigLeaf Software - http://www.figleaf.com
To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @
http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform
For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists
Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/
List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com
-
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth
Promise I am not trying to start a flame war, just the reason behind this move (I've probably read your posts, but don't remember them). From your comments are you implying screw Adobe because their product sucks; I hate them. And that you just like BD because you prefer their product (and the direction they are going), rather than Adobe/ Macromedia? People jump various ships all the time, but just wanting to know your 'why'. Ever since V6.0 we've had nothing but *expensive* problems with the product, and no one listening on the (then) Macromedia side of the publisher-developer relationship. Like a lot of ColdFusion developers, we had come to consider this as just par for the course, and like frogs slowly brought to the boil, we never realized just how bad it was until we started using BlueDragon.NET, and suddenly 95% of the problems disappeared. For the remaining 5%, it turns out they were there because NA was emulating MM's flawed design for certain functionality. But NA stepped up and solved this problem within hours. They listened, they worked with us, they got the job done -- and they did so with professionalism, a handshake, and a thank you for working with us attitude. Over the years I've also payed close attention to these two companies' political climates and the people that guide their technology focus, and I'm firmly convinced that NA is running just about everything correctly. My only pet peeve with NA -- and this totally stumps me to this day -- is why the hell they aren't screaming the truth from every rooftop: that BD.NET beats the pants off Adobe's product in reliability and performance, hands down. I've tried to imagine some clever evil genius hand-wringing strategy they might be playing out, but I'm stumped. Maybe they really are just very nice guys who don't want to step on any toes. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - attachment: BDAsmall.jpg
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth
Mary-Catherine, Even better -- here's a copy of a post I sent to the BlueDragon list a while ago: - If you think that's customer service, try this. Last year on the Friday before the Christmas holiday, when everone in the world was taking the day off to be with their families, David and I discovered an obscure CFLOGIN syndication issue with BD 6.1 when using hardware load balancing on a cluster with syndicated session objects using ScaleOut StateServer. We debugged for a couple of hours, then called New Atlanta and told them that we really needed to solve this issue immediately. So what would you expect to happen? Vince himself comes out to *our* office with his laptop and the BD.NET source code, and we work together for a few hours to uncover the problem. It turns out that because we're always diligent about putting OUTPUT=No in both the CFCOMPONENT and CFFUNCTION tags, this triggered an issue unique to our environment that he traced to a single line in the source code. So Vince corrects it, compiles us a special version, and everything works perfectly. Vince waited until everything worked before he went home to his family after 6:00 that night. And he was more than happy to do it. Some days later we came up against a second issue that also has affected clustered BD (and CF) apps: the fact that you can't have failover that honors authorization, because roles aren't syndicated between machines. So we were put in touch directly with the guy who was responsible for that part of the BD codebase, and we all worked out the design of the solution for how roles could be syndicated between machines in a cluster. 30 hours later, at about 2:15 AM, we got a fix emailed to us. And that is what made BD.NET the only CFML processor that handles the entire CFLOGIN framework across machines in a cluster with full failover. Well, you don't have to hit *me* in the head a third time... I resigned from Team Macromedia the following day, then David and I joined the BlueDragon Alliance. I can't tell you how good I feel about the level of service I get from New Atlanta. I am confident that the BD.NET solutions I deploy will just work, all the time. No server hangs from zero-byte mail spool files. No RegEx DoS attacks. No JVM Bind errors. No running out of database connections. It just works. And if it ever doesn't work -- even under the most exclusive and obscure conditions that might not affect others -- I get the best of the best handling it immediately. If the software industry had Marines, New Atlanta would be them. - Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth New Atlanta's stellar performance in the areas of product quality and support? Or the reason why I quit Team Macromedia and went with the BlueDragon Alliance? Or the consistent differences in reliability and performance we've seen between ColdFusion and BD.NET? Promise I am not trying to start a flame war, just the reason behind this move (I've probably read your posts, but don't remember them). From your comments are you implying screw Adobe because their product sucks; I hate them. And that you just like BD because you prefer their product (and the direction they are going), rather than Adobe/ Macromedia? People jump various ships all the time, but just wanting to know your 'why'. mcg Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/19/2007 04:32 PM Please respond to discussion@acfug.org To discussion@acfug.org cc Subject Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth Have you read any of my previous posts to various lists regarding New Atlanta's stellar performance in the areas of product quality and support? Or the reason why I quit Team Macromedia and went with the BlueDragon Alliance? Or the consistent differences in reliability and performance we've seen between ColdFusion and BD.NET? If not then take a look, or feel free to call me personally at 770-446-8866 and I'll be happy to share. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Teddy Payne To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth Adam, Thank you
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth
I can only wish that one day that the two product will merge and support one another... Oh, God, no no no NO NO NO NO!! Lord, I know I've done You wrong before. I know I've had my differences with You in the past and not done as You'd wished from time to time. And I'm deeply sorry, Lord, *deeply* sorry, if I've offended You in any way, and I thank You for showing me the Light. I know now that I should have never invented the Puppy Trebuchet, had them manufactured by child slave labor in China, and sold them at an obscene profit to the idle rich. I know that now, because You've showed me The Way. I know now, Dear Lord, that it is not right to initiate dozens of simultaneous office pools around Atlanta on which employee can give the boss Herpes the fastest, take 10% For The House, and use that money to finance underground Free First Taste Of Crack Day for middle schoolers. You've shown me that it's wrong. But Lord, if You have any mercy left in You for the wretch that is me... If You can forgive me just one more time... If You can do one thing for me, then please please *PLEASE* don't ever let Adobe get their hands on BlueDragon.NET, Lord, please. Please keep them apart, Dear Lord, so that the pristine nature of BlueDragon.NET is not sullied. So that it remains a shining beacon of CFML performance when loads get heavy. So that we, it's disciples, can hear The Voice Of Reason when we need support, and not have to wait for generations in hopeless bondage. So that freedom of choice may reign. Thank you, and Amen. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - attachment: BDAsmall.jpg
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth
Have you read any of my previous posts to various lists regarding New Atlanta's stellar performance in the areas of product quality and support? Or the reason why I quit Team Macromedia and went with the BlueDragon Alliance? Or the consistent differences in reliability and performance we've seen between ColdFusion and BD.NET? If not then take a look, or feel free to call me personally at 770-446-8866 and I'll be happy to share. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Teddy Payne To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth Adam, Thank you for the colorful commentation. Can you offer a more thoughtful and objective point of view that would not slander one side or the other and would avoid a flame war? I am sure our readers would be interested in the ramifications of enterprise business to business partnerships versus product bias. Teddy On 1/19/07, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can only wish that one day that the two product will merge and support one another... Oh, God, no no no NO NO NO NO!! Lord, I know I've done You wrong before. I know I've had my differences with You in the past and not done as You'd wished from time to time. And I'm deeply sorry, Lord, *deeply* sorry, if I've offended You in any way, and I thank You for showing me the Light. I know now that I should have never invented the Puppy Trebuchet, had them manufactured by child slave labor in China, and sold them at an obscene profit to the idle rich. I know that now, because You've showed me The Way. I know now, Dear Lord, that it is not right to initiate dozens of simultaneous office pools around Atlanta on which employee can give the boss Herpes the fastest, take 10% For The House, and use that money to finance underground Free First Taste Of Crack Day for middle schoolers. You've shown me that it's wrong. But Lord, if You have any mercy left in You for the wretch that is me... If You can forgive me just one more time... If You can do one thing for me, then please please *PLEASE* don't ever let Adobe get their hands on BlueDragon.NET, Lord, please. Please keep them apart, Dear Lord, so that the pristine nature of BlueDragon.NET is not sullied. So that it remains a shining beacon of CFML performance when loads get heavy. So that we, it's disciples, can hear The Voice Of Reason when we need support, and not have to wait for generations in hopeless bondage. So that freedom of choice may reign. Thank you, and Amen. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- cf_payne / Adobe Certified ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Atlanta CFUG (ACFUG): http://www.acfug.org n?N??沸y??fj?ꮇ?檚|?ñ? - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - attachment: BDAsmall.jpg
[ACFUG Discuss] WOOT! Beta
Folks, We're going into Beta on a multi-user project estimation, time tracking, and analysis application, and we're looking for a few dedicated souls to bang on it and report back their findings and opinions. Briefly, the name of the application is WOOT!, and it's going to go for only $99 a seat when it's released in January. WOOT! will make your projects more profitable by preventing billable time from falling through the cracks, producing more complete and accurate estimates for your customers, and discovering problem areas in your project pricing. The WOOT! Desktop Client stays resident in your system tray and typically takes only two clicks to track work sessions. The WOOT! Database runs on SQL Server 2005 (either the free Express version or any production version) and is highly scalable. WOOT! requires the .NET Framework 2.0, which is a free download from Microsoft. If you're interested then please email me *offlist* at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and give me an idea of how many systems you can run the WOOT! Desktop Client on and for how long you can test it during the Beta period, which ends on December 31st. The first twenty Beta testers who send us feedback will receive free one-year licenses to WOOT! when it is released in January. The top ten Beta testers who distinguish themselves with outstanding feedback will receive free permanent licenses to WOOT!. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com - attachment: BDAsmall.jpg
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending Java to Open Source
Oh, was that you, Teddy? I thoughtit was Ben, Sterling, and a few others. That's okay. I deserved it. :) Respectfully, Adam Phillip ChurvisCertified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 DeveloperBlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training inC# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers atProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Teddy Payne To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending Java to Open Source My apologies. I did not mean to smack Adam that hard. My hand slipped! Honest!Teddy On 11/13/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively soon), Sun will most likely wash their hands clean of-- *SMACK!* (Sorry...) Respectfully, Adam Phillip ChurvisCertified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 DeveloperBlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training inC# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers atProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Precia To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending Java to Open Source How can Sun profit from such a move? How does this help sales andstock dividends? I'm all for open-source, but I would also like to see the company to stay in business. Precia On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_hi_te/sun_java_open_source_1 Shawn GorrellWeb Development Applications ArchitectFederal Reserve Bank - AtlantaOffice (404) 498-8449 - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - -- cf_payne /Adobe Certified ColdFusion MX 7 DeveloperBlog: http://cfpayne.wordpress.com/Atlanta CFUG: http://www.acfug.org - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink - - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla
I think the above response is drawing some pretty large conclusions that aren't based on any substantiated facts. You don't really need (and will probably not have) any substantiated facts at hand when drawing conclusions about future actions a public company might take. All you have is instinct, an understanding of what truly drives public companies, market forces, technology innovations, etc, to guide you. Licking your finger and sticking it in the air to tell which way the wind blows helps, too. How are you ever going to have any substantiated facts that tell you in plain terms what a company definitely will do? The facts that are released to the public have been thoroughly sanitized and neutered by Public Relations andLegal, and the SEC only lets you say certain things (virtually nothing of importance) when mergers are about to happen. I wouldn't even call most of them facts, but rather diversions from the real facts being hidden. I mean, big business is often a poker game, yes? There are things that Chizen is dealing with right now that will determine how Adobe will "handle" its inheritance of the Macromedia product line, and they have absolutely nothing at all to do with any of us or how "cool" some people think ColdFusion is. And federal law dictates that Chizen, as the leader of a publicly traded company,*must* act with sole regard to the betterment of his stockholders' financial positions, as long as those actions do not violate any laws. So let's all stop being naive about ColdFusion's future having anything at all to do with current number of installations, how much you like it, how important it is to you, or anything else that a developer might see as important. It may be hard to swallow, but nothing about you or what you do is of any importance to them whatsoever. Respectfully, Adam Phillip ChurvisCertified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 DeveloperBlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training inC# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers atProductivityEnhancement.com - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla
Wow, Sterling -- I didn't mean to piss you off like that! Do you remember that ACFUG meeting after the merger was announced, where you were on the panel and everyone was trying to figure out "what next" with ColdFusion? I thought the arguments you were making about the importance of fringe things like CF's gateways and how the growth in cellular technology was going to make ColdFusion yada yada yada was, let's say, "not on point." It simply doesn't matter. It's like a bunch of little ants scurrying around in a lab beaker discussing the reasons why that big man in the lab coat is going to feed them soon, because it's only logical and yada yada yada. But they have no clue that the guy is there to test the effects of heat on ants. They can see him through the glass and they think they know what's important to him and how it will affect his actions, but they just don't realize that nothing they're thinking or doing or saying has any relevance to what that guy is going to have to do in order to get graded on his science project, which is the only thing of any real relevance because that guy is the one with the power to bring things into alignment with what the real Powers That Be demand of him. And past actions have little to do with future actions. Do you really think that stubborness to continue supporting stagnant products like LiveCycle will stand in the face of shareholder demands forprofitability? Decisions to "continue or can" products and even entire product lines are often made with what some might take as offhandedness by the leaders of publicly traded companies, but it's really just a realization of what finally needs to be done. You say that "Adobe does not kill products," and that may be true right now, but shareholder pressure has a way of changing such decisions. And actually, most of our peers agree with us about Microsoft technologies beating Adobe technologies hands down. I usually don't make absolute statements, but if I were to make one it would probably be that Flex will never ever ever in any way shape or form ever have a significant share of the web. And I'd even say that the current trend of companies migrating from ColdFusion to .NET will continue, which is another reason for my guess that Adobe will take the open source route with ColdFusion. These are just guesses, but I believe that my reasoning is more rooted in reality than yours. And I'll be happy to take you up on your bet. If by Christmas 2009 Adobe hasn't open sourced, outsourced, or sold ColdFusion (all of these courses are "washing their hands"), then I buy. The last time we had dinner together was 14 years ago at Nakato, and Lisa still hasn't gotten over the octopus tentacles draped over the side of her bowl, so this time I pick, regardless! :) Respectfully, Adam Phillip ChurvisCertified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 DeveloperBlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training inC# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers atProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Sterling Ledet To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:20 AM Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla With all due respect, Adam, I think that is the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard you make in public. Have you been drinking? If Adobe ever washes its hands of ColdFusion, I hereby publicly pledge to buy you and your family dinner at the most expensive restaurant you can find in Atlanta. You mention relatively soon, how about we bet dinner that it doesn't happen within 3 years. If by Christmas, 2009 ColdFusion Enterprise is not released as open source and Adobe has clearly not washed their hands of it, then you owe me and my family dinner? My offer stands, whether or not you accept the bet. Here's three points I'd like to make. 1) Adobe is not going to wash their hands of ColdFusion.Do you think they are going to wash their hands of Acrobat as well? Do you know how much money they've been losing on the high-end, Java base LiveCycle product linesfor years, yet Bruce Chizen just moved that group to brand new, state of the art digs reinvesting even more into that effort. Acrobat itself was a money loser for half a decade before it became the most lucrative product line in Adobe's portfolio, surpassing PostScript and Photoshop. Adobe is used to making long-term investments, and the purchase of Macromedia/Allaire/eHelp by them is one of the best things that could have happened for tech junkies like me. Even eHelp products are seeing renewed investment, which even surprised me a bit. ColdFusion is so core to what Adobe is doing that any doubt about it's future is so clearly misdirected as to be humorous. 2) Adobe does not kill products, especially not core technology like ColdFusion. I even heard
Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla
Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively soon),Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of ColdFusion via the open source route as well, rather than by trying todump it on another company. But it most likely also signifies that Adobe realizes its Flash-centric development model and toolscannot keep pace with Microsoft's XAML-based offerings. When you compare the two, Flash-based development looks like an unwieldycobbled together tinkertoy. And there just isn't enough Adobe funding available to change that in any significant way, so they "give it up to the people" and let them join in for free. Respectfully, Adam Phillip ChurvisCertified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 DeveloperBlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training inC# ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers atProductivityEnhancement.com - Original Message - From: Precia To: discussion@acfug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla Adobe has donated the Flash scripting engine code to Mozilla. Theannouncement was made at the Web 2.0 conference.Would someone enlighten me on the big picture of this gesture.Precia-To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserformFor more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglistsArchive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com- - To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ List hosted by FusionLink -
