Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ATL Code Camp

2013-08-21 Thread Teddy Payne
I signed up for this a while ago.  I will be there and hope to see others there!

Teddy

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On Aug 21, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Charlie Arehart char...@carehart.org wrote:

 Thanks for that heads-up, Doug. I’d missed news of it, even attending some 
 recent MS user groups, sadly. There are at least a couple of interesting 
 topics. Thanks.
 
 /charlie
  
 From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen
 Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:36 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] ATL Code Camp
  
 Hey, this is happening this Saturday.  Its cheap and packed full of some 
 gems.  
  
 http://www.atlantacodecamp.org/2013/
  
 
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 http://www.cubicleman.com
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Images as Blobs

2013-04-01 Thread Teddy Payne
Mike,
Have you looked into using cfimage tag to reference, render, or manipulate BLOB 
data?  If I recall, you can directly feed a database call into a cfimge tag.

Cheers,
Teddy

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On Apr 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Mike Staver sta...@fimble.com wrote:

 I've been thinking about keeping all user-uploaded images in the DB for one 
 of my projects. I know how I will work the process to get them into the DB 
 and keep them off the hard drive. It would go something like:
 
 1) Image uploaded to temp file system location from form post.
 
 2) Image inserted into DB as blob.
 
 3) Temp image removed from file system.
 
 Displaying the images is a bit more work I think. I assume I'd have to follow 
 a similar process in reverse:
 
 1) Extract image from DB to temp file system location.
 
 2) Display it in HTML via web server as img tag.
 
 3) Remove image after a certain period of time...
 
 Step 3 has me wondering: How long should I wait before removing the image 
 from the file system? Meaning - in theory, I could remove the image before it 
 would even have a chance to display via the web server, and I don't want 
 that. Anybody have a good process to do this already? I'd love if there was a 
 way to display an image directly from the DB, but I'm not aware of such a 
 method. I'll probably just fall back on leaving those images on the file 
 system as part of the display, and have my code check for their existence 
 before retrieving them again. I didn't want to have to worry about the disk 
 space, but I can't think of another way.
 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] coldfusion web hosting

2007-04-09 Thread Teddy Payne

CF-Talk, which is hosted by House of Fusion, has a mail archive:

http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk%40houseoffusion.com/

This is the archive for the mailing list.  I am a subscriber and reader of
the list and I have noticed that this question is asked often.  It might be
a good resource to search through to get a pool of opinions.

Teddy

On 4/9/07, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I use http://www.crystaltech.com/ for several sites.
They have great server monitoring systems and let you know when they
detect issues.
Their control panel is set up very well.
I have never had to call customer support to do anything.


On 4/9/07, Jeff Osmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 can anyone suggest cheap, reliable coldfusion web hosting for personal
 use?



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] A whole new key for CFEclipse =)

2007-04-04 Thread Teddy Payne

CFEclipse probably won't support WYSIWYG, but as Howard Fore had mentioned
that part of the MyEclipse project that there is a designer perspective.

You can see a screen shots here:
http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-54.html


On 4/4/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for that...


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Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com

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From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 1:03 PM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] A whole new key for CFEclipse =)

Then you should probably stick to DW.  I don't see CFEclipse fully
supporting WYSIWYG in the near future.  Many code centric developers felt
abandoned when Homesite/CFStudio development ended.  DW has never really
been acceptable to this group, and that's where CFEclipse really came from
-
a desire to have a good code centric IDE.

-Cameron

On 4/4/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Im a windoze wysiwyg gui kinda guy.


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

2007-03-30 Thread Teddy Payne

Robert,
A custom tag like cf_csv2query refers to a template with the name of
cs2query.cfm

As Duty said (bummer about the hand), you can either put it in the same
folder as the calling page or inside your CF Administrator you can define a
custom tag folder other than the default folder to put your custom tags.

There is no installation.  CF already knows what it is supposed to do.

On 3/30/07, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 i think you should be able to drop the custom tag files into the same
folder that you are calling the tag from. or drop them in the customtags
folder within your cf server folders.

sorry for sloppy typing. broke my right hand and typing in slow motion :(

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert
Reil
*Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 12:42 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

 Hello fellow friday attendees!

I now have this custom tag (thanks to Teddy's reccomendation,
(http://www.masrizal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=idea.download_detailProductID=cf_csv2query

http://www.masrizal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=idea.download_detailProductID=cf_csv2query+)
)
and now I have to install it.

I did a google search and didnt really find any step by step info on how
to install it.
Any pointers out there?


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com
*From:* Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 2:45 PM
*To:* Carbs SalesService
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

 A quick Google Search:
 
  
http://www.masrizal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=idea.download_detailProductID=cf_csv2query
 
 
   On 3/23/07, *Robert Reil *[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  My Day, My Turn. You knew it was coming. Afterall it is FRIDAY!
 
  Studied w/ group last night. Working on building the CSV import tool.
 
  Very basic stuff.
 
  We got the CFQuery roughed in but are trying to detail it and got
  stuck in the Form.
 
  We want to call a field from a table and list the entries once.
 
  There are about 4000 rows, but only about a dozen entries.
 
  For some reason we can not seem to get or find data in a google search
  that uncovers the following:
 
  Error:
 
  
 
  Variable VEND_NAME is undefined.
 
  The error occurred in
 
  
*C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\development\vendorupdate1.cfm:
  line 25*
  23 :style = style specification
  24 :query = vendordata
  *25 :value = #Vend_Name#*
  26 : 
  27 :   option
  value=#vendordata.Vend_Name##vendordata.Vend_Name#/option
  -
 
  coldfusion.runtime.UndefinedVariableException: Variable VEND_NAME is
  undefined.
 
  ---
 
 
 
  file code shows:
 
  ---
 
  !--- Establish parameters for first time through ---
  cfparam name=FORM.vendor default=0
  cfquery name=vendordata datasource=carbs
  SELECT sku, name, Vend_Name, Vend_Number, Unit_Measure, Deal_Price,
  Volume, UnitRetail, UnitPrice, Description1, Description2
  FROM carbs.products
  WHERE Vend_Name = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
  value=#FORM.vendor# maxlength=40 /
  /cfquery
 
 
 
  !-- Some stuff removed for clarity ---
 
 
 
  cfform
  cfselect
 name = vendorname
 style = style specification
 query = vendordata
 value = #Vend_Name#
  
option
  value=#vendordata.Vend_Name##vendordata.Vend_Name#/option
  /cfselect
input type=submit name=Button1 value=Go
  /cfform
 
 
 
  Any ideas what we are overlooking?
 
 
 
  Robert P. Reil
 
  Managing Director,
 
  Motorcyclecarbs.com , Inc.
 
  4292 Country Garden Walk NW
 
  Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
 
  Office 770-974-8851
 
  Fax 770-974-8852
 
  www.motorcyclecarbs.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfqueryparam and NULL attribute SQL Server 2005

2007-03-29 Thread Teddy Payne

I am not sure why the behavior of the cfgrid is getting the value when it
queries the data source.  Did you check to make sure that the specified
column does not have a default value of some type? If 2005 is actually able
to send the string null to the cfgrid, then that is indeed a behavior that
is odd.

When you submit or read data through whichever process, can you perform a
quick check for the word null prior to committing and querying to cleanse
the data?  This may be a band-aid, but would alleviate some frustration to
ensure the correct behavior.

On 3/29/07, Troy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 While I am not terribly versed in MSSQL, it sounds like it may be
treating the word NULL as a varchar or text value?



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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jeff
Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:26 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfqueryparam and NULL attribute SQL Server
2005



Tom,



Syntax error on my part.  It is an UPDATE that I'm doing and not an
INSERT.  The code I provided is the update statement.  As far as the old
code, it exists in a backup file but is not present at all in the live code.




The behavior that the app is displaying is as follows:

   1. If I click into the formfield and DELETE anything in the field
   and hit submit it passes an empty string to the action page
   2. On the action page I have a CFDUMP and I output this here--
   #len(trim(Form.assetgrid.equiptype[Row]))# --#yesNoFormat(NOT
   len(trim(Form.assetgrid.equiptype[Row])))# BR  and this is
   displayed: here-- 0 --Yes 
   3. Using Management Studio I look into the DB and see *NULL*displayed there 
in the appropriate column and row.
   4. I revisit my CFGRID/CFFORM and the field is blank (the behavior I
   am expecting)
   5. I submit the form again and this time in the CFDUMP I see the
   word/string null
   6. This time for the output of this code: here-- #len(trim(
   Form.assetgrid.equiptype[Row]))# --#yesNoFormat(NOT len(trim(
   Form.assetgrid.equiptype[Row])))#  I get this: here-- 4 --No
   7. When I then look at the DB in Management Studio I see the
   word/string null in the appropriate column and row.  If I run a query
   against it looking for all with a value of NULL the record is NOT returned.
   8. I then load the form again and in the formfield the word/string
   null now appears.

 Any ideas what I'm doing wrong or what I'm over looking?



thanks in advance,

Jeff








On 3/29/07, *Tom McNeer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jeff,

Bottom line, why is isnerting the string null into my db instead of
NULL???


There's nothing in the code you showed that would insert that value.

Just a guess, but -- is your old code in place, the code that tried to
create null in a string value? You're experiencing the same behavior you
describe when using your old code. And the only way that a string value of
null would be inserted is if the variable held that value *before* you
ran the INSERT. In that case, your yesNoFormat function would return
false, because the form variable would have a length. And the string
null would be inserted.







--
Thanks,

Tom

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfeclipse crashing?

2007-03-23 Thread Teddy Payne

Did you upgrade your JRE at that time?

One suggestion has been to completely uninstall your Java JRE and then get a
fresh non-upgrade version.

On 3/23/07, Cheyenne Throckmorton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


First off, I'll state that I'm fairly new to Eclipse.  I installed it and
have really enjoyed its use since being convinced to give it a go after a
good discussion about it during the last perimeter cf_lunch (read -
shameless plug for cf_lunches).

Unfortunately, starting last night, it is crashing constantly.  Has anyone
else had problems that last few days?  The only thing that I can throw out
there as a guess to whats going on is that I did upgrade from Firefox 1.5to 
Firefox
2.0, around the same time.   Do they maybe use some of the same files?
Anyone heard of this?  Googling around it seems that at least in older
postings (ca. 2005) they were related, but I can't find anything newer.

*I'm running with*
Windows XP
Eclipse Version: 3.2.2
Build id: M20070212-1330
cfeclipse 1.3.1.3 (just upgraded from 1.3.0 where it crashed as well)
firefox 2.0.0.3
java version 1.5.0_6


Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.  I dont really utilize the
design view that often in DW so I'm not really looking forward to going
back, especially since its having all sorts of sync issues right now.
Probably something with the timestamps being off on files.  I've had that
issue with it in the past, and I was just waiting til after DST would be
normal again before trying to fix something that might resolve itself in a
few weeks.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

2007-03-23 Thread Teddy Payne

For cfselect, you may be over complicating it:

cfselect name=vendorName value=Vend_Name display=Vend_Name query=
vendorData /

cfselect produces the options tags for you if you use the value and display
attributes of the cf tag.  This is handy when creating really simple forms.
Also, if you put preservedata=true in your cfform a la cfform
preserveData=true, if you submit the form to the same page then the
selection you submitted with should stay selected.

This removes a lot of display logic code.  preserveData works in CFMX 7 and
I am not sure in CFMX 6.1.

On 3/23/07, Justin Haygood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We use the CF_CSV2Query.. works great for importing CSVs.. even REALLY
large ones


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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert
Reil
*Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 4:52 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.



Awesome! I am interested in buying that tool,

But I must ask if you see anything in our form that looks odd...



Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com




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*From:* Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 2:45 PM
*To:* Carbs SalesService
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

A quick Google Search:

http://www.masrizal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=idea.download_detailProductID=cf_csv2query

http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2007/2/5/csv

 On 3/23/07, *Robert Reil *[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My Day, My Turn. You knew it was coming. Afterall it is FRIDAY!



Studied w/ group last night. Working on building the CSV import tool.



Very basic stuff.



We got the CFQuery roughed in but are trying to detail it and got stuck in
the Form.



We want to call a field from a table and list the entries once.

There are about 4000 rows, but only about a dozen entries.



For some reason we can not seem to get or find data in a google search
that uncovers the following:



Error:



Variable VEND_NAME is undefined.

The error occurred in

*C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\development\vendorupdate1.cfm:
line 25*
23 :style = style specification
24 :query = vendordata
*25 :value = #Vend_Name#*
26 : 
27 :   option
value=#vendordata.Vend_Name##vendordata.Vend_Name#/option
-

coldfusion.runtime.UndefinedVariableException: Variable VEND_NAME is
undefined.

---



file code shows:

---

!--- Establish parameters for first time through ---
cfparam name=FORM.vendor default=0
cfquery name=vendordata datasource=carbs
SELECT sku, name, Vend_Name, Vend_Number, Unit_Measure, Deal_Price,
Volume, UnitRetail, UnitPrice, Description1, Description2
FROM carbs.products
WHERE Vend_Name = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
value=#FORM.vendor# maxlength=40 /
/cfquery



!-- Some stuff removed for clarity ---



cfform
cfselect
   name = vendorname
   style = style specification
   query = vendordata
   value = #Vend_Name#

  option value=#vendordata.Vend_Name##vendordata.Vend_Name#/option
/cfselect
  input type=submit name=Button1 value=Go
/cfform



Any ideas what we are overlooking?



Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

2007-03-23 Thread Teddy Payne

Well, cfselect functionality should be fine.

On 3/23/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 At the moment I am on 6.1. Have not yet upgraded.


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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*From:* Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 5:14 PM
*To:* Carbs SalesService
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

For cfselect, you may be over complicating it:

cfselect name=vendorName value=Vend_Name display=Vend_Name query=
vendorData /

cfselect produces the options tags for you if you use the value and
display attributes of the cf tag.  This is handy when creating really simple
forms.  Also, if you put preservedata=true in your cfform a la cfform
preserveData=true, if you submit the form to the same page then the
selection you submitted with should stay selected.

This removes a lot of display logic code.  preserveData works in CFMX 7
and I am not sure in CFMX 6.1.

On 3/23/07, Justin Haygood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  We use the CF_CSV2Query.. works great for importing CSVs.. even REALLY
 large ones


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 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert
 Reil
 *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 4:52 PM
 *To:* discussion@acfug.org
 *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.



 Awesome! I am interested in buying that tool,

 But I must ask if you see anything in our form that looks odd...



 Robert P. Reil

 Managing Director,

 Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

 4292 Country Garden Walk NW

 Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

 Office 770-974-8851

 Fax 770-974-8852

 www.motorcyclecarbs.com




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 *From:* Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 2:45 PM
 *To:* Carbs SalesService
 *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cfform bug stuck on variable.

 A quick Google Search:

 
http://www.masrizal.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=idea.download_detailProductID=cf_csv2query

 http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2007/2/5/csv

  On 3/23/07, *Robert Reil *[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Day, My Turn. You knew it was coming. Afterall it is FRIDAY!



 Studied w/ group last night. Working on building the CSV import tool.



 Very basic stuff.



 We got the CFQuery roughed in but are trying to detail it and got stuck
 in the Form.



 We want to call a field from a table and list the entries once.

 There are about 4000 rows, but only about a dozen entries.



 For some reason we can not seem to get or find data in a google search
 that uncovers the following:



 Error:

 

 Variable VEND_NAME is undefined.

 The error occurred in

 
*C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\development\vendorupdate1.cfm:
 line 25*
 23 :style = style specification
 24 :query = vendordata
 *25 :value = #Vend_Name#*
 26 : 
 27 :   option
 value=#vendordata.Vend_Name##vendordata.Vend_Name#/option
 -

 coldfusion.runtime.UndefinedVariableException: Variable VEND_NAME is
 undefined.

 ---



 file code shows:

 ---

 !--- Establish parameters for first time through ---
 cfparam name=FORM.vendor default=0
 cfquery name=vendordata datasource=carbs
 SELECT sku, name, Vend_Name, Vend_Number, Unit_Measure, Deal_Price,
 Volume, UnitRetail, UnitPrice, Description1, Description2
 FROM carbs.products
 WHERE Vend_Name = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar
 value=#FORM.vendor# maxlength=40 /
 /cfquery



 !-- Some stuff removed for clarity ---



 cfform
 cfselect
name = vendorname
style = style specification
query = vendordata
value = #Vend_Name#
 
   option value=#vendordata.Vend_Name##vendordata.Vend_Name#/option
 /cfselect
   input type=submit name=Button1 value=Go
 /cfform



 Any ideas what we are overlooking?



 Robert P. Reil

 Managing Director,

 Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

 4292 Country Garden Walk NW

 Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

 Office 770-974-8851

 Fax 770-974-8852

 www.motorcyclecarbs.com




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sturcture help. No answers just guidance

2007-03-19 Thread Teddy Payne

Robert,
Before you approach applying a formula or business logic against a piece of
data, you need to practice how to read the data from the DB and how to
import a CSV from your file system onto a CFM template.

I am not sure what you mean by pitfalls of querying.  SQL is made to handle
exceptions, conditional processing and complex business calculations.  Bad
queries usually stem from badly planned schemas or business logic
implementation.

You need to have two separate mind sets when writing queries:
1) Business - What do I need in the end to show?
2) Development - What kind of data input do I need and how should I process
it?

I would practice more with cfquery for database connected queries and also
with cffile for CSV data.  More advanced implementations just use the
database to import and process the CSV, so that you can perform data joins.

Keep in mind that a good practice would be to not have your business logic
formula on your display template.  Your display page should just show the
end result, while you processing pages or database routines will apply
business logic and transform your data.

There are a lot of examples online for doing both.

On 3/19/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Im trying to logic through how to do the following. Any input would be
appreciated.
I understand in the end I can just use cfquery to call this data when I
am ready to build an app to do this but for now I am trying to get a grip on
how to structure this logic.

I have 2 pieces of data:

A: Original exported data from a DB from the below venor. Included are:
PartNo, my OLD cost, our sales price, text formula of how to turn my OLD
cost, into our sales price.

B: New price sheet in csv form from the vendor showing PartNo, and my
cost.

My goal is to update our sales price to new prices based on our new costs,
and the formula.
To do that I need to:

1Populate the formula field with a REAL CF READABLE formula.
  Where can I get info on how to structure these kinds of formula?

2Build guidelines for updates. I see there are many pitfalls in
selecting, and updating data. I wonder if some patient folks out there could
share with this normally Friday only guy.

Thanks in advance for your patience and guidance.

Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com





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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Error handler, included template not shown. The calling template is shown.

2007-03-16 Thread Teddy Payne

Also, if you use cftry with cfcatch, you can cfdump the cfcatch structure to
show the error received and thus also place it in your email.

On 3/16/07, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, its part of cfmail. I usually use cfdump for form  client vars to
get an idea of what user was working with when the error occurred. I might
try cfdump of error also. Dont know if it will point me to what I need i.e.
exception generating template which is included in main template.

Ajas.


On 3/16/07, Troy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  Is this code from your cfmail tag? We have begun using cfdump in
 place of mail formatting. It gets a lot extra stuff, but it puts everything
 you need in there.



 For example:



 cfmail…..

 cfdump var=#error#

 /cfmail



 Troy Jones



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 Mohammed
 *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2007 11:12 AM
 *To:* discussion@acfug.org
 *Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Error handler, included template not shown.
 The calling template is shown.



 Hi, I have a error handler template which sends me an email whenever an
 error is encountered. When there is error on an included template, the my
 error handler always points to main template that included the error
 generating template.

 For example : Main page : *PageStart.cfm* contains/includes cfinclude
 for *page_error.cfm*. When there is error in* Page_Error.cfm*, I am
 shown as error in *PageStart.cfm*. Here is code from my error handler

 *URL*:  cfif isDefined(cgi.server_name ) and isDefined(*
 cgi.script_name*)
 a
 href=https://#cgi.server_name##cgi.script_name#;https://#cgi.server_name##
 * cgi.script_name*#/a/cfif br /
 *Address*:  cfif 
isDefined(error.remoteAddress)#error.remoteAddress#/cfifbr
 /br /

 *Template*:  cfif isDefined(error.template)#error.template#/cfifbr
 /

 *Error*:  cfif isDefined( error.Diagnostics)span
 class=Mail_Red#error.Diagnostics#/span/cfifbr /br /

 *Error on* cfif isDefined( cgi.path_translated)#*cgi.path_translated
 *#/cfifbr /
 *From page* cfif isDefined(cgi.http_referer)
 a href=#cgi.http_referer##cgi.http_referer#/a/cfifbr /br /

 If you have CF debugging enabled, then CF debugging will point me to
 Page_Error.cfm and line no. where the error occurred. This is exactly what I
 need in my error handler also. Probably I might be missing a property of
 error object.

 Any ideas??

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] List Usage

2007-03-15 Thread Teddy Payne

List members, ACFUG attendees and Board members,
During our recent board meeting after elections, we had create
responsibilities to coordinators and committees to handle certain monthly
tasks to keep ACFUG progressive.

One of these assignments is the list moderator or mother if you are a fan
of CIA movies.  John was given this responsibility.

If you have questions about what is acceptable or not on our lists, both
John and I will be monitoring and responding to difficult situations.

We are here to share knowledge, insight and advice.  We are not beyond
taking advice and we are always looking for feedback.

I hope that we can take this as an example that overly emotional responses
should be reconsidered if you do not have a full picture of a situation.

There is a mantra about Don't Take things Personally that is hard to live
by.  I will spare you the new age literature references, but if you get to
the point where you do take something personally then talk to someone first
before subjecting our entire membership to your frustration or concern.

We have 15 people on the board that are meant to try and be objective about
the daily situational awareness of the group.

Help us be more proactive instead of Reactive.

Teddy

On 3/14/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ok, a few things to consider for everyone here when posting to the lists.
It's been awhile since we stated some of the basic ground rules so I guess
it's time to review.

1- Each list has a specified purpose
Discussion at acfug.org is for CF related topics and questions
Jobs at acfug is for CF jobs
Community is for anything else

When posting a question, please do it to one list not 2 or 3.

2- Noise level is always a concern on these lists. If you feel you're
posting each and every technical question you run across, please google
for
the answer first before posting. The lists are for technical questions but
naturally sometimes people need to take things off list to reduce the
noise
level. There is also an archive of this list. You may be asking a question
that has previously answered.

3- Complaints should NOT be posted directly on the lists. Please direct
any
complaints to myself or to Teddy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or for that matter
anyone on the board. We do monitor things and try to keep the noise level
down.

Thanks for your cooperation.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

2007-03-15 Thread Teddy Payne

For IIS in the past, it is usually a file called iis.msc, which may have
changed for IIS 6 and later.

You usually can find your IIS manager from your Administrative tools that is
available from your start menu or it can be located in your Control Panel
menu.

I agree with Dean about your web server not knowing how to serve CF pages.
What happens in IIS, is a DLL file is associated to a .cfm or .cfml files.
This DLL has the responsibility of calling and executing the CF engine to
parse the .cfm page being requested.

If IIS doesn't know what to do with a file extension, it will download it
like it an executable or .zip file.

Teddy

On 3/15/07, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There should be a IIS plugin to handle the CF content, is it
configured in the IIS Admin?

Check out the docs on adobe.com for specific config information.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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a necessity in any country where people are themselves free.
 -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918


On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Troy Jones wrote:

 IIS should be the one handling that, but therein lies my problem. I
 can't open the CF administrator to edit any settings in IE. Kinda
 catch
 22. Anyways, is there another way to access that or will this problem
 have to be addressed first?

 Troy Jones

 Dynapp Support Team
 678-528-2952
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H.
 Saxe
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:28 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

 Which is serving up the CF content then?  You'll have to ensure CF is
 configured appropriately to use one or the other.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


 On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Troy Jones wrote:

 It has both Apache and IIS installed.

 Troy Jones

 Dynapp Support Team
 678-528-2952
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H.
 Saxe
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:09 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

 What kind of web server is it?  Apache?  IIS?  It sounds like the web
 server isn't calling the CF executable to process the page and is
 instead returning the source to you.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


 On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Troy Jones wrote:

 Hello,



 I am new to this group and, quite honestly, not terrible
 experienced. Please bear with me as I try to lay out my problem.



 I am trying to access the cfadministrator on our server. It will
 not open in IE or Firefox. It closes the browser and forces me to
 use Notepad or save the file to hard drive. In another issue that
 may or may not be related, when I type in the value to open the
 administrator, the browser tells me that it cannot find the url
 requested, which, in this case, is itself. Does anyone have any
 suggestions?



 Troy Jones



 Dynapp Support Team

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

2007-03-15 Thread Teddy Payne

Well, the external website has its own web server.  To server ColdFusion,
the web server that is handling the requests for the external web site would
need to have ColdFusion installed on it as well.

On your local system, you would have a developer copy of ColdFusion
typically, but on external websites you will either have the hosting
provider having ColdFusion installed or the dedicated server having
ColdFusion installed.

Either way, you need a software piece to be able to interpret and parse
ColdFusion pages.  ColdFusion is not native to IIS or Apache.

The developer edition is free, but for servers that have more than one
connection connecting to it, then you will need to buy additional software.

Teddy


On 3/15/07, Troy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Would that still be true if the pages were served externally in the
proper manner? This problem only exists when trying to open a .cfm locally
on the server. For example, this site, http://www.superlawntrucks.com is
served as requested and there are no errors with it when accessed
externally.



Troy Jones



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Payne
*Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:26 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator



For IIS in the past, it is usually a file called iis.msc, which may have
changed for IIS 6 and later.

You usually can find your IIS manager from your Administrative tools that
is available from your start menu or it can be located in your Control Panel
menu.

I agree with Dean about your web server not knowing how to serve CF
pages.  What happens in IIS, is a DLL file is associated to a .cfm or .cfml
files.  This DLL has the responsibility of calling and executing the CF
engine to parse the .cfm page being requested.

If IIS doesn't know what to do with a file extension, it will download it
like it an executable or .zip file.

Teddy

On 3/15/07, *Dean H. Saxe *[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There should be a IIS plugin to handle the CF content, is it
configured in the IIS Admin?

Check out the docs on adobe.com for specific config information.

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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a necessity in any country where people are themselves free.
 -- Theodore Roosevelt, 1918


On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Troy Jones wrote:

 IIS should be the one handling that, but therein lies my problem. I
 can't open the CF administrator to edit any settings in IE. Kinda
 catch
 22. Anyways, is there another way to access that or will this problem
 have to be addressed first?

 Troy Jones

 Dynapp Support Team
 678-528-2952
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H.
 Saxe
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:28 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

 Which is serving up the CF content then?  You'll have to ensure CF is
 configured appropriately to use one or the other.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


 On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Troy Jones wrote:

 It has both Apache and IIS installed.

 Troy Jones

 Dynapp Support Team
 678-528-2952
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H.
 Saxe
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:09 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

 What kind of web server is it?  Apache?  IIS?  It sounds like the web
 server isn't calling the CF executable to process the page and is
 instead returning the source to you.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


 On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Troy Jones wrote:

 Hello,



 I am new to this group and, quite honestly, not terrible
 experienced. Please bear with me as I try to lay out my problem.



 I am trying to access the cfadministrator on our server. It will
 not open in IE or Firefox. It closes the browser and forces me to
 use Notepad or save the file to hard drive. In another issue that
 may or may not be related, when I type in the value to open the
 administrator, the browser tells me that it cannot find the url
 requested, which, in this case, is itself. Does anyone have any
 suggestions?



 Troy Jones



 Dynapp Support Team

 678-528-2952

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

2007-03-15 Thread Teddy Payne

Ok, here we go:

Assuming you have IIS installed and CF installed and you have access to your
IIS Administrator:

Use the + symbols to expand to your default web site
Right click the default web site and then click Properties
Click Home Directory tab
Click Configuration button
Under the scrollable list of Application Mappings, you should see .cfm
under teh extensions column

If you do not see .cfm, then your IIS server will not be able to serve up
the page

Teddy



On 3/15/07, Troy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes as I have been able to access the administrator in the past. This is
recent problem and, because others have access to the server, I do not know
what, if any changes have been made.



Troy Jones



Dynapp Support Team

678-528-2952

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Payne
*Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:35 PM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator



When you install CF in server mode, you will be prompted on which web
server to use and then the bindings for the CFM interpreter are created at
that point.

Do you know for a fact that CF is indeed installed?

Teddy

On 3/15/07, *Troy Jones* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In response to Teddy, that is exactly right. As far as why both are
installed, I just work here. It was that way from day one when I
started.



Troy Jones

Dynapp Support Team
678-528-2952
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Steven Ross
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:21 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

You are asking for trouble running apache and IIS... why do you need
both on the same box?

On 3/15/07, Troy Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It has both Apache and IIS installed.

 Troy Jones

 Dynapp Support Team
 678-528-2952
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean H.
Saxe
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:09 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cf administrator

 What kind of web server is it?  Apache?  IIS?  It sounds like the web
 server isn't calling the CF executable to process the page and is
 instead returning the source to you.

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 What is objectionable, what is dangerous about extremists is not
 that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant.
  -- Robert F. Kennedy, 1964


 On Mar 15, 2007, at 11:32 AM, Troy Jones wrote:

  Hello,
 
 
 
  I am new to this group and, quite honestly, not terrible
  experienced. Please bear with me as I try to lay out my problem.
 
 
 
  I am trying to access the cfadministrator on our server. It will
  not open in IE or Firefox. It closes the browser and forces me to
  use Notepad or save the file to hard drive. In another issue that
  may or may not be related, when I type in the value to open the
  administrator, the browser tells me that it cannot find the url
  requested, which, in this case, is itself. Does anyone have any
  suggestions?
 
 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFQuery Basics: HELP!

2007-03-09 Thread Teddy Payne

Not to one up Doug, but a good practice after his suggestion is also to put
in a maxlength on cfqueryparam to the maxlength of the data columns you are
referring to.

If the maxlength for the SKU column is a varchar(40), then:

cfquery name=product datasource=carbs
SELECT Description1, Description2, Vend_Name
FROM carbs.products
WHERE sku = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#FORM.sku#
maxlength=40 /
/cfquery

This is an added check on strings to prevent large strings inadvertantly.
The maxlength is for strings and not for numbers.

Teddy

On 3/9/07, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


RIght after
cfquery name=product datasource=carbs
SELECT Description1, Description2, Vend_Name
FROM carbs.products
WHERE sku = '#FORM.sku#'
/cfquery
try adding this for testing purposes
cfdump var=#product# /cfabort /

Also, others may jump on this before I, really should use cfqueryparam

cfquery name=product datasource=carbs
SELECT Description1, Description2, Vend_Name
FROM carbs.products
WHERE sku = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_varchar value=#FORM.sku# /
/cfquery
Ask Charlie all about the null attribute :)

DK


On 3/8/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  thanks doug. I tired the products.name but still did not work. Im
 tired. Bed time.

 MY DAY IN 1.5 hrs u know!!
 I think u see it coming too


 Robert P. Reil

 Managing Director,

 Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.

 4292 Country Garden Walk NW

 Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

 Office 770-974-8851

 Fax 770-974-8852

 www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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 *From:* Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:51 PM
 *To:* Carbs SalesService
 *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFQuery Basics: HELP!


  hey, its 2 hours away to your Friday!

 Ok, first off, from the looks of it you are assuming you will always get
 one record from this SQL, with your data this maybe a fair assumption, but
 be careful of assumptions, they'll bite you someday in code.  I'm living
 proof carrying many scars from the code dog.

 Now, a couple things with this line:
 cfset desc1 = #Description1#

 1) You should always scope your variables, a few rare cases where you
 may not want to, but this is definitely not one of them.  So change the line
 to
 cfset desc1 = #product.Description1# /
 2) # use, you do not need pounds inside tags and functions unless you
 are inside quotes, so change the above to
 cfset desc1 = product.Description1 /
 3) Are you always 100% sure your SQL will return at least one row?  I'm
 guessing in this case it is not.  So, need to wrap your line above in a
 check for this
 cfif product.recordcount GTE 1
 cfset desc1 = product.Description1 /
  /cfif

 That said, I'd urge you to use CFOUTPUT and its QUERY attribute, then
 you can write code not worrying about 1 so much, depending on your situation
 of course.  This would lead you to something like the below.  With this, no
 need to use the cfset lines you have and this will work when the SQL has no
 records returned.  Note also if the SQL returns more than one record, the
 cfoutput will loop over all of them for you.

 cfoutput query=product
   tr bgcolor=##cc
tdstrong: #form.sku# /strong br
   #product.Desc1#
/td
td#product.Vend_Name#/td
   /tr
   tr
td colspan=2
  font size=-2#product.Description2#/font

/td
/tr
  /cfoutput



 HTH!

 DK

 On 3/8/07, Robert Reil  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well we got somewhere in the WACK group tonight but did not quite
  reach the
  goal. I have a small problem with the following file, can anyone help
  me
  figure out what is wrong with my call for my descriptions and vend
  name?
 
  --
  cfquery name=product datasource=carbs
  SELECT Description1, Description2, Vend_Name
  FROM carbs.products
  WHERE sku = '#FORM.sku#'
  /cfquery
  html
  head
  titleProduct Search Results/title
  /head
  body
  cfset desc1 = #Description1#
  cfset desc2 = #Description2#
  cfset vendor = #Vend_Name#
 
  !--- Display search text ---
  cfoutput
  strongSKU:/strong
  table
  tr
th colspan=2
 font size=+2
 Products
 /font
/th
  /tr
  cfoutput
tr bgcolor=##cc
 td
  strong:
  #sku#
  /strong
  br
  #Desc1#
 /td
 td
  #Vend_Name#
 /td
/tr
tr
 td colspan=2
   font size=-2#Description2#/font
/td
/tr
  /cfoutput
  /table
  /cfoutput
  /body
  /html
 
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  Problem is that it gets stuck at:
  Variable DESCRIPTION1 is undefined.
 
  The error occurred in
  C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\intranet.motorcyclecarbs.com\sales\form1_action.cfm:
  line
  20
 
  18 : body
  19 : cfset sku=#form.sku#
  20 : cfset desc1 = #Description1#
  21 : cfset desc2 = #Description2#
  22 : cfset vendor = #Vend_Name#
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Slides or notes from recent meeting ACFUG

2007-03-09 Thread Teddy Payne

I also noticed that Steve was recording on his own Adobe Connect.  Is his
audio/video going to be available on UGTV?

Teddy

On 3/9/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I've not received them yet, folks. Steve's on this list so may see your
request. I've also asked him privately now, in case he doesn't. As soon as
they're up, I'll announce it.

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Mohammed
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*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Slides or notes from recent meeting ACFUG

Hi,
I would like to request any presentation or notes for the last ACFUG
meeting from FigLeaf Software. I am very much interested in Google SEO
methods and the last time I was in a Adobe session about the same topic, the
session was interrupted because of some technical issues.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-09 Thread Teddy Payne

I agree Charlie.  Any future threads on this would be a good candidate for
community list.

Teddy

On 3/9/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This is getting quite off-topic (for the CF list). Should it move over to
the acfug community list? (And Ajas, perhaps you may also get better results
on a bugzilla list, too.)

/Charlie
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Mohammed
*Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 12:23 AM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? -
Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

Sorry guys,  I didnt realise somehow we had 2 threads running parallel for
this topic. So here is my question again

1) Whenever I login to Bugzilla, if i dont do any activity for sometime,
and try to open bugzilla open by doing refresh, I get this error :
CGI ErrorThe specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:

Any one seen this error before?

2) as per my last email which was in diff thread in response to Roberts
email about having multiple instances of bugzilla.I was wondering if
thats the case but I dont think it will be like that... it would be nice
if someone who has used bugzilla for multiple projects can clarify this
point..I think it will be a pain to have seperate installs of bugzilla for
each project... what abt Trac for the similar situation? does it support
multiple projects?

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

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[ACFUG Discuss] CFEclipse Update

2007-03-09 Thread Teddy Payne

CFEclipse 1.3.1.3 released today.

You can use the normal update process or download from
http://www.cfeclipse.org/update

It was a bug fix release.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Search engine for ColdFusion

2007-03-08 Thread Teddy Payne

For Flex, you should try the www.gotswf.com website, which is a companion
site.

Of course, Steve showed us this last night as well.  =)

Thanks again Steve for the generous search engine.

Teddy


On 3/8/07, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


my first thought on this was a big question mark, but this is really nice.

FYI for those who didn't click through they are searches on CF or flex
related stuff (see screenshot)



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 http://www.gotadobe.com for CF developers

 http://www.gotswf.com for Flash/Flex developers

 Feedback appreciated.

 Regards,
 Steve Drucker
 CEO
 Fig Leaf Software
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[ACFUG Discuss] CFEclipse Update

2007-03-07 Thread Teddy Payne

CFEclipse recently had a release from 1.3 to 1.3.1.1 to 1.3.1.2

As fixes are submitted and found, Mark Drew has provided a new link for
those who do not have direct access to the Eclipse update.

You can perform manual update from the following:
http://www.cfeclipse.org/update/

You can add the updates from an archived size or via a local site.

The normal update process is still intact.

You can always find out about the cfeclipse news from:
http://www.cfeclipse.org/index.cfm?event=pagepage=news

Teddy

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] ColdFusion project lifecycle tools ??? - Configuration Management to Versioning to Testing

2007-03-01 Thread Teddy Payne

Ajas,
The drop down for Trac when referring to users is one complaint that it
would be nice to choose who assign tickets to, but on the opposite side or
people who can take action on bugs, they can assign themselves to the
ticket.

Regardless if 10 people swear that Trac is better than Bugzilla, I would
recommend that you try both on your own and make your own informative
decision.

Advice is just advice and your personal preference for your development
needs will be the final choice.

Just avoid the pitfall of saying that you do not have time to test
applications.  You are telling yourself at that point that you do not have
time to find the best way to make yourself more productive.

Teddy


On 3/1/07, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,
Can anyone clarify what Steven pointed out about not being able to
pick a user from dropdown in demo on their site? Does it work in regular
version of trac?

So far, looking at the responses ppl seem to be very happy using Trac
since it integrates directly with Subversion. I decided I would give
ratings/points to Trac/Bugzilla, so anyone who reads this thread can decide
which route to take.

So far I think Trac (6)  Bugzilla(4) and rating is 1-10 , 10 being
highest.  If anyone has experience using these tools then please share your
experience with Trac/Bugzilla.

Thanks,

Ajas Mohammed.

On 2/28/07, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The only downside to trac is that it doesn't have the detail that
 bugzilla does. There is also the annoyance of not being able to pick
 a user from a dropdown. In trac you just enter their name... at least
 that is the way the demo is on their site. I haven't used trac but, I
 like the hooks into SVN. Course you can do that with bugzilla too, its
 just hard to setup.

 On 2/28/07, Ajas Mohammed  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Justin, I looked at the link you sent and it reminded me of Bugzilla.
 So now
  the question boils down to
  Bugzilla vs Trac ?
  1)which one would you prefer and why?
  2) benefits
  3)support for Subversion? i read bugzilla needs another component to
  interact with Subversion
 
  Plz share your experience if you have seen both of them working...
 
  Thanks. This thread is getting interesting.
 
 
 
 
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I have seen cfcunit  cfunit but at this point it doesnt look very

  natural way of doing things to me. I would prefer the GUI tools,
 atleast for
  now.
   
  
   If it is unit testing you are interested in, there really isn't any
 way to
  write your tests in a GUI fashion. Tests are code, and you have to
 write
  them just like you have to write your application code. The only
 visual
  aspect of unit tests right now would be the test runner application
 that
  reports results back to you once you run the tests. I'm pretty sure
 this
  isn't what you wanted to hear, but sorry, that's just the way it is.
  
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[ACFUG Discuss] SQL Prompt

2007-02-26 Thread Teddy Payne

If you use SQl Server 2000 or 2005, there is a tool that I highly recommend:

SQL Prompt by Red Gate Software

This little gem makes creating queries and joined queries so quick, that
testing your schema or instrospecting your metadata a thing of the past.

There is a demo of the tool in action at the following link:

http://www.red-gate.com/products/SQL_Prompt/index.htm

It is not free.  It is $195, but I am seriously considering writing this on
off as a business critical expense.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] documentation

2007-02-19 Thread Teddy Payne

I see a great deal of adhoc commenting styles that do not have a semblance
of coherence.

When using CFCs, the hint is invalueable.

When using version control, comments made on check-in are very helpful.

Dreamweaver uses design notes on code templates.

I have seen external documents with code explnation.

The primary issue and thus need is that when you comment code that you
should be able to do so at the same time that you code.  You really do not
want to create several bodies of code or commenting documents.

It is also a management decision if you want to implement fusedocs or
concreate commenting versus adhoc commenting that can be anywhere.

A con to production commenting is that you really don't want your production
code with ehavy amounts of comments.

I would suggest staging documentation that would record the API trhough
version control with good code hints.

Teddy

On 2/19/07, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We're talking about implementing a formal documentation procedure
here. Besides for fusedocs, what other options are people currently using
out there and what do you see as the pros and cons.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Calling DTS package from CFM page

2007-02-13 Thread Teddy Payne

Ajas,
I would not really approach DTS tracking just from a COM package.  SQL
Server stores all of the information about a DTS package, the execution,
steps and failures in the master DB.

Create a read-only user to connect to your SQL Server's master DB and then
just start exploring all of the metadata and process information is stored
for your database.

Everything is in there.

Teddy

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Hi,
 I was looking around to find code for calling a DTS package from cfm
page. I found this code below. I am able to connect and everything but I
would like to see the status of DTS package execution not just individual
steps. I got the individual steps  there status codes by adding some code
the cfscript code below.

My question is 1) How do you track success/failure message from DTS using
this script? This is very important because I want to let you user know what
happened after the dts was run since the DTS inserts records into a table
from a holding table and I need to confirm that to the user. If DTS failed,
I would give error msg and if it succeeded, then I will take the user to
next step i.e. create an export text tab delimited file. For ex : Stored
Proc returns 0 for no error and 1 for error.

cfscript
   *create dts package object*
pkg = createObject(COM,DTS.Package);
   *   // load package *
pkg.LoadfromSQLServer
   (NameOfSQLServer,
   SQL_Username,
   sql_password ,
   0,
   ,
   ,
   ,
   nameOfTheDtsPackage ,
   );
   *   // execute*
pkg.Execute();
   /cfscript

// this will get individual steps execution
cfset sErr = 
cfset bSuccess = True
cfset test = StructNew()
cfset DTSStepExecResult_Failure = 1

cfloop item=oStep collection=#pkg.Steps# 
   cfset sErr = sErr  p Step [  oStep.Name  ] 

   cfif oStep.ExecutionResult eq DTSStepExecResult_Failure
  cfset sErr = sErr   failedbr 
  cfset   bSuccess = False
   cfelse
cfset sErr = sErr   Succeeded br 
   /cfif

   cfset sErr = sErr  Task   ( oStep.TaskName)  /p

/cfloop

cfif bSuccess 
   cfset sErr = sErr  pPackage [  Pkg.Name  ] succeeded/p
cfelse
   cfset sErr = sErr  pPackage [  Pkg.Name  ] failed/p 
/cfif

cfoutput#sErr#/cfoutput

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFC and reuse query

2007-02-02 Thread Teddy Payne

What database are you using?

Teddy


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I'm looking for a solution to reusing a query in a cfc where the where
clause needs to change.

example:

  cfquery name=qry datasource=#APPLICATION.dsn#
select * from table
where #field# = #value#
  /cfquery

How would I pass the info from my cfm to the cfc and continue to run the
same query from the same cfm using different values for #field# and
#value#? Can this be done?

thanks,

Anthony



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFC and reuse query

2007-02-02 Thread Teddy Payne

The solution should still work with the latest version of mySQL.  mySQL ahs
support for stored procedures and the coalesce function.

You will need however, CF 7 with the Hot Fix 1 that re-enables the use of
directly mapping stored procedure named paramaters.

Teddy


On 2/2/07, Anthony Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


mysql

On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 11:57 -0500, Teddy Payne wrote:
 What database are you using?

 Teddy


 On 2/2/07, Anthony Mathis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for a solution to reusing a query in a cfc where
 the where
 clause needs to change.

 example:

   cfquery name=qry datasource=#APPLICATION.dsn#
 select * from table
 where #field# = #value#
   /cfquery

 How would I pass the info from my cfm to the cfc and continue
 to run the
 same query from the same cfm using different values for
 #field# and
 #value#? Can this be done?

 thanks,

 Anthony



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] video of new tool from Cynergy

2007-02-01 Thread Teddy Payne

It is a beautiful web piece.  I like the reflective component and the
rotating box navigation.

I had one issue and I am probably just being picky:


From a useability case and branding perspective, I do not like the fact that

you launch a new window to view the case study on the solution/product.
This diverts the attention of the user from the central branding page.

It woud have been nice if the left aspect of the stage transitioned into a
scrollable area with the case study information and then offered either an
additional information link, download a case study, send me email about this
case study or click her to launch a new window with more detail.

Warn your user about your transitions otherwise they may get lost in the
amount of information you provide.

I felt that reading about their case study was more important than the
brochure-ware of the Flex stage as it would either spawn over the Flex
application or load in a new tab.


Aesthetically, it is brilliant.  It just needs to merge content in the same
medium.

Teddy


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 WOW! Very NICE!!!


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couple folks here are involved in real estate, so thought I'd pass this on

http://www.cbetta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/1/31/see-adobe-flex-best

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box

2007-01-29 Thread Teddy Payne

Mary,
Click the following for background change:

Window  Preferences  CFEclipse  CFML Colours

You will see background at the bottom.

Those crazy brits and their spelling.  =)

Cheers,
Teddy


On 1/29/07, Shifang (Frank) Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Eclipse does allow you to change the background color.

On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW.  Eclipse has
 some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use
 some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I
 haven't gone searching).  I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an
 easier interface.  I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier
 than there.

 A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black
 but DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier
 on the eyes).   As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a
 1700 line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of
 reasons this app is being rewritten)!

 mcg




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To
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 It may be an issue with the plugin.  If you want to test it out
 though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file
 that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the
 middle of the page.  You could type three lines of code and then watch it
 come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later!  It's
 insane.

 Allen

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
 Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box


 Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on
 large files?  I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using
 CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects...  Could it be an
 issue with the plugin?

 -dhs


 Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only
 by the peoples' willingness to contest them
 --John Perry Barlow


 On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Briefly...
  The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can
  synchronize files between the local machine and a server very
  easily.  Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but
  they've never seemed to work (at all).
 
  Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below,
  but it's a resource hog.  If you're low on memory you should
  probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly
  a light-weight either!
 
  One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with
  files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone
  says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of
  code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO
  SLOW...
 
  But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of
  eclipse - it's free
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ajas
  Mohammed
  Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box
 
  Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own
  taste  preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market
  and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW 
  Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of
  view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant
  for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise
  option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some
  place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW
  is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to
  do design as well write code.
 
  Personally, I use both DW  Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I
  want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the
  point where I want to make the changes instead of searching for it.
  Thats the biggest plus for me as far as using DW is concerned. On
  the other side, whenever I have to refactor code or make code
  changes in CFC's etc, I prefer to stick to Eclipse. Also the
  Eclipse IDE has some very cool features like
 
  1) You can go to previously viewed file by using cntl + F6 keys. I
  dont think you could do the same in DW. In DW, cntl + tab takes you
  through list of files that are open. I hate that. Usually i have
  lots of files open and I always like to go back  forth between 2
  open windows/files. Its much easier to do this in  Eclipse.
  2) The appearance of Eclipse editor looks very good to the 

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box

2007-01-29 Thread Teddy Payne

Mary,
When you click the Background button under the CFEclipse CFML Colours, you
get the standard colors associated with your operating system.  If you would
like to have a custom color, you click Define Custom Colors.

As I am sure you know, it is based upon RGB, which translates every web safe
octet like 0, 51,102,153, 204 and 255.  So, there is no problem changing the
background color to black which would be R:0 G:0 B:0

Teddy


On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Not to #00 for the background

mcg




  *Shifang (Frank) Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

01/29/2007 09:05 AM   Please respond to
discussion@acfug.org

   To
discussion@acfug.org  cc
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 Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box






Eclipse does allow you to change the background color.

On 1/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] *[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

As with others on the list, I go between CFEclipse and DW.  Eclipse has
some nice plugins to allow you to modify your database without having to use
some other application (there probably is something like this in DW, but I
haven't gone searching).  I do prefer searching in DW, it seems to have an
easier interface.  I suppose if I did a lot of layout, DW would be easier
than there.

A drawback with Eclipse is that I can't change the background to black but
DW does allow for that, but I can get close enough (try it, it's easier on
the eyes).   As for the large file size, I haven't had a problem with a 1700
line file, other than it's 1700 lines (only one of the thousands of reasons
this app is being rewritten)!

mcg



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Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

01/26/2007 03:47 PM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org


  To
[EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org  cc
  Subject
RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box






It may be an issue with the plugin.  If you want to test it out
though...just copy and paste some code into cfeclipse that makes a file
that's 2,500 lines of code and then go and try to add some code in the
middle of the page.  You could type three lines of code and then watch it
come across the screen in Doogie Howser fashion 15-20 seconds later!  It's
insane.

Allen

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:* [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL 
PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Dean H. Saxe
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box


Damn dude... what kind of box are you on the Eclipse is a dog on
large files?  I've never seen that behavior, but that's not using
CFEclipse, just the base Eclipse for Java projects...  Could it be an
issue with the plugin?

-dhs


Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[U]nconstitutional behavior by the authorities is constrained only
by the peoples' willingness to contest them
   --John Perry Barlow


On Jan 26, 2007, at 3:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Briefly...
 The ONLY reason I've ever liked DW is the fact that you can
 synchronize files between the local machine and a server very
 easily.  Eclipse is supposed to have synchronize plugins but
 they've never seemed to work (at all).

 Also, DW is great for design type of work, as Ajas mentions below,
 but it's a resource hog.  If you're low on memory you should
 probably look elsewhere - that being stated, Eclipse isn't exactly
 a light-weight either!

 One last thing - a negative for eclipse...if you're working with
 files that contain thousands of lines of code (I know, everyone
 says it shouldn't happen, but it does), just typing in a line of
 code in the middle of the page can be very annoying...it is SO
 SLOW...

 But, other than that, both have their uses but the one huge plus of
 eclipse - it's free
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:* [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL 
PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Ajas
 Mohammed
 Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Building my IDE Tool Box

 Best IDE? well thats a tough question and it depends on persons own
 taste  preferences. I like to play with all IDE's there in market
 and finally stick to ones which I like more. In this case its DW 
 Eclipse. As John Mason mentioned earlier, from coder's point of
 view no one can beat Eclipse for the simple reason that its meant
 for a developer who does coding day in day out. Its a very wise
 option to get familiar with Eclipse because sooner or later some
 place you join will have developers who only use Eclipse. As for DW
 is concerned, it is also a great tool for a developer who wants to
 do design as well write code.

 Personally, I use both DW  Eclipse. I use DW a lot because when I
 want to edit code, I just select the html element and I get to the
 point 

[ACFUG Discuss] CFEclipse

2007-01-26 Thread Teddy Payne

If you have not already read it on the blogosphere, CFEclipse 1.3 beta is
out. http://www.cfeclipse.org

The have refactored their site, which has a nice feel to it.

CFEclipse 1.3 works on 3.1.2, 3.2.1 and 3.3M4 without any issues.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] css styling assistance

2007-01-26 Thread Teddy Payne

No worries.  You amy also want to be interested in an analagous product
called ThickBox.

http://jquery.com/demo/thickbox/ This is more content driven than images.

Teddy

On 1/26/07, rlash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Yes this is the effect I am going for
Thanks Teddy


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*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] css styling assistance


http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/ Light Box


On 1/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to know if someone in the community knows of the following
 techinque or can supply some possible link resources. I have googled enough
 to give in to asking for help.

 Here is what I am trying to do:
 I have a basic cfm page that lists information.
 A link on each listing to edit the listing.
 When edit link is clicked a popup via hide/show div appears as expected.
 When this happens I want the rest of the screen (not including the
 actual div) to have a transparent background or transparent image applied to
 the entire page and not the activated div.

 I have seen this used in Ajax slide show applications etc, but can't
 seem to find the styling to do this.


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth

2007-01-19 Thread Teddy Payne

I have to applaud New Atlanta for adopting hardware and VM editions
quickly.  The benefits from adopting architecture with native support are
extremely visible in terms of data channel bandwidth.

I can only wish that one day that the two product will merge and support one
another so that developers don't have to choose between long time loyalty to
the original code base versus the immediate performance gain of 64-bit and
next generation JVMs.

Developers choose Adobe for a specific feature sets and BlueDragon for
increased performance and yet other New Atlanta specific features.

I will be evaluating both products over the coming months.  I cannot say
that choosing one over the other is up to me.  My clients will determine
that most of the time.

The offerings by both companies are equally compelling.  I wish Adobe
success this summer with CF 8.0 and New Atlanta with BD 7.0.

The saving grace with multiple large platforms with support is the
solidification of the need for CF developers.  The learning curve to switch
in between these platforms is based upon specific nuance.

Teddy

On 1/19/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I notice that MySpace is so darn slow! Is that the servers or the code I
wonder?


Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
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-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:12 AM
To: Carbs SalesService
Subject: RE: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth

The MySpace servers running BlueDragon.NET are all still 32-bit. As for
64-bit support, I spoke at a conference in Rome last November with Ben
Forta, where he said publicly it's unlikely that Scorpio will provide
native
64-bit support. You can also read the comments by Damon Cooper (CFMX
Director of Engineering) regarding 64-bit support (he's less than
enthusiastic):



http://www.fekke.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/12/20/Does-ColdFusion-need-64-bit-S
upport-Short-answer-Yes

Our plans are to provide native 64-bit support for BlueDragon 7.0 on the
widest number of platforms possible. In fact, there's already a beta of
native 64-bit BD 7.0 for Red Hat Linux 4 (RHEL4) and the x64 architecture:



ftp://ftp.newatlanta.com/public/bluedragon/7_0b2/server/BlueDragon_Server_JX
_70_326-Linux64.sh

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http://www.newatlanta.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
 Ross
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:48 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth

 I think the most interesting part is that they no longer use CF,
 actually the article mentions that they moved away from CF awhile ago.
 And the reason why they are using BD .NET is because they want to run
 native .NET code as it is faster. Granted it is probably faster due to
 the fact that it can actually utilize the 64 bit processor better than
 running CF on 32 bit java under a 64bit OS/CPU (not the only reason
 but, probably one).
 I hope this issue is addressed with the release of scorpio.

 If you want to understand this you can read this article by Andy
 (http://www.infoaccelerator.net/index.cfm/2006/12/7/ColdFusion
 --64Bit-and-What-It-Means-To-You)


 On 1/18/07, Alex Pilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 7:04 PM -0500 1/18/07, Alex Pilson wrote:
  It's quite an interesting read on scalability and how they
 dealt with
  it. Coldfusion mentioned.
  
  http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/0,1540,2082921,00.asp
 
  Oh I forgot and BlueDragon.NET!
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MySpace growth

2007-01-19 Thread Teddy Payne

Adam,
Thank you for the colorful commentation.

Can you offer a more thoughtful and objective point of view that would not
slander one side or the other and would avoid a flame war?

I am sure our readers would be interested in the ramifications of enterprise
business to business partnerships versus product bias.

Teddy


On 1/19/07, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   I can only wish that one day that the two product will merge and
 support one another...

Oh, God, no no no NO NO NO NO!!

Lord, I know I've done You wrong before.  I know I've had my differences
with You in the past and not done as You'd wished from time to time.  And
I'm deeply sorry, Lord, *deeply* sorry, if I've offended You in any way, and
I thank You for showing me the Light.

I know now that I should have never invented the Puppy Trebuchet, had them
manufactured by child slave labor in China, and sold them at an
obscene profit to the idle rich.  I know that now, because You've showed me
The Way.

I know now, Dear Lord, that it is not right to initiate dozens of
simultaneous office pools around Atlanta on which employee can give the boss
Herpes the fastest, take 10% For The House, and use that money to finance
underground Free First Taste Of Crack Day for middle schoolers.  You've
shown me that it's wrong.

But Lord, if You have any mercy left in You for the wretch that is me...
If You can forgive me just one more time...  If You can do one thing for me,
then please please *PLEASE* don't ever let Adobe get their hands on
BlueDragon.NET, Lord, please.

Please keep them apart, Dear Lord, so that the pristine nature of
BlueDragon.NET is not sullied.  So that it remains a shining beacon of
CFML performance when loads get heavy.  So that we, it's disciples, can hear
The Voice Of Reason when we need support, and not have to wait for
generations in hopeless bondage.  So that freedom of choice may reign.

Thank you, and Amen.


Respectfully,

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

2007-01-18 Thread Teddy Payne

This seems to be asked often about images and BLOBs.  I know you are testing
an idea out and maybe you can get it to work somehow, but from a data
perspective you just don't want to use a BLOB.  There is only one technique
to reduce up front cost of a BLOB and that is to have a BLOB table.  The
table would not be a part of the primary table, so you would not intefere
with indexing and collation.  You would have a normalized table with a
foreign key that you would only use for that web service.

Now for the webservice, wouldn't you want to return the lowest common
denomenator of data?  If you are returning HTML or something that needs to
reference the image, it is acceptable to have a reference with an absolute
URL back to your server.  The benefit here is that the web service is
consumed quicker, but the page load would be based on the network retrieving
the data.

In addition, you would want inside of your web service a way not to return
the image that would even speed up the browsing unless the user really wants
the image.

Teddy


On 1/18/07, Fennell, Mark P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm just curious. What are the benefits of storing the image in the db
rather than storing the file on the filesystem and the path in the db? I
mean, for a web page, all you need is the img and the path. I can
understand how it might be useful in some VB or C or Java app where the
client doesn't display images with such ease, but for a web app...? Thanks.
mf

-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *John Mason
*Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:16 AM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB

 I believe there would still be three http requests here. The images would
still be called up in the html like img src= right? Sorry but in http
that would still create seperate http requests.

John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Peavy
*Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:35 AM
*To:* discussion@acfug.org
*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Image from DB


Probably an easy problem for someone...

I want to put two small images in my database and then output them in my
app, so that they do not constitute additional http requests. Consider it an
experiment - I know that it may seem a bit silly. The goal is for the entire
page to be delivered to the browser in one http request, instead of 3 (two
images and one cf page) without doing any Apache tinkering. I have looked
around the net for answers and cannot seem to make this work.


Database field is imageFile of type BLOB in MySQL 4.1.13. What is the
proper way to insert the image?


Example: INSERT into Images (imageFile) values ('#base64(image)#')
-Or-
Example: INSERT into Images (imageFile) values ('#image#')


And then of course, how do you retrieve it? Example: SELECT imageFile FROM
Images WHERE imageID=1


cfoutput
#toString(imageFile)#
/cfoutput
-OR-
cfoutput
#toBinary(imageFile)#
/cfoutput


As I say, I've not been able to make this work. If I use toString(), I
simply get the raw data. If I use toBinary(), I get an error that the data
cannot be converted to a string. Also, using CFCONTENT is fine to output the
image, but then any code after that is ignored. So, short of saving the
entire page and then outputting, it, I don't see a way to use CFCONTENT.


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DB Design Book Reccomendations?

2007-01-12 Thread Teddy Payne

MySQL Crash Course (Sams Teach Yourself in 10 Minutes) by Ben Forta

On 1/12/07, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Absolutely!

On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 Database Design For Mere Mortals


 Shawn Gorrell
 Web Development Applications Architect
 Federal Reserve Bank - Atlanta
 Office (404)  498-8449


   *Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED]*
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 01/12/2007 09:45 AM   Please respond to
 discussion@acfug.org

To
 discussion@acfug.org  cc
   Subject
 [ACFUG Discuss] DB Design Book Reccomendations?




 Starting to get into CF I now am aware that I need to understand things
 about DB design.
 Can anyone recommend a good book on how to design a DB?

 I am learning things about autoincrementing, indexing, datatypes,
 foreign
 keys, scripts, etc.

 I am running MySQL but realize that a MySQL book will give me command
 line
 notes.
 I edit MySQL using Navicat (A WONDERFUL PROGRAM!! THANKS JOHN MASON!!).
 But I realize my weaness is not in how to make DB changes, but what
 changes
 to make in setting up a DB in order to have CF do what I want it to do
 in
 designing our Corporate Intranet.

 Maybe the ACFUG library has something in it I can borrow? Charlie?

 Thanks in advance.

 Robert P. Reil
 Managing Director,
 Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.
 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
 Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
 Office 770-974-8851
 Fax 770-974-8852
 www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DB Design Book Reccomendations?

2007-01-12 Thread Teddy Payne

I recommend Safari Books Online.  For $19/mon you can check out 10 books out
at a time.  For $40/mon, you get unlimited access.

www.safaribooksonline.com

The books are virtual and you read them online.  I have several friends
using it and it saves them a lot of money when they jsut want to read
certain chapters of certain books.

Teddy

On 1/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Robert, I'll echo Shawn and the other's sentiments on the Mere Mortals
book.
As for the ACFUG library, there is no real one.

I will say I've been meaning to create a virtual one (where people post
the
books they have and members can borrow from each other by way of bringing
desired or returned books to the meeting, with email notifications to
track
it all and using the Amazon web service to ease data entry), and I have
renewed interest in that for other reasons, so look for that soon.

That said, does anyone have a copy of that book to lend to Robert at the
next meeting (or the Flex meeting on Wed, if you both would be going)?

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:46 AM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DB Design Book Reccomendations?

Starting to get into CF I now am aware that I need to understand things
about DB design.
Can anyone recommend a good book on how to design a DB?

I am learning things about autoincrementing, indexing, datatypes, foreign
keys, scripts, etc.

I am running MySQL but realize that a MySQL book will give me command line
notes.
I edit MySQL using Navicat (A WONDERFUL PROGRAM!! THANKS JOHN MASON!!).
But I realize my weaness is not in how to make DB changes, but what
changes
to make in setting up a DB in order to have CF do what I want it to do in
designing our Corporate Intranet.

Maybe the ACFUG library has something in it I can borrow? Charlie?

Thanks in advance.

Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] DB Design Book Reccomendations?

2007-01-12 Thread Teddy Payne

By the way, the ..Mere Mortals book is in their library.

Teddy


On 1/12/07, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I recommend Safari Books Online.  For $19/mon you can check out 10 books
out at a time.  For $40/mon, you get unlimited access.

www.safaribooksonline.com

The books are virtual and you read them online.  I have several friends
using it and it saves them a lot of money when they jsut want to read
certain chapters of certain books.

Teddy

 On 1/12/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert, I'll echo Shawn and the other's sentiments on the Mere Mortals
 book.
 As for the ACFUG library, there is no real one.

 I will say I've been meaning to create a virtual one (where people post
 the
 books they have and members can borrow from each other by way of
 bringing
 desired or returned books to the meeting, with email notifications to
 track
 it all and using the Amazon web service to ease data entry), and I have
 renewed interest in that for other reasons, so look for that soon.

 That said, does anyone have a copy of that book to lend to Robert at the

 next meeting (or the Flex meeting on Wed, if you both would be going)?

 /Charlie
 http://www.carehart.org/blog/

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Reil
 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:46 AM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] DB Design Book Reccomendations?

 Starting to get into CF I now am aware that I need to understand things
 about DB design.
 Can anyone recommend a good book on how to design a DB?

 I am learning things about autoincrementing, indexing, datatypes,
 foreign
 keys, scripts, etc.

 I am running MySQL but realize that a MySQL book will give me command
 line
 notes.
 I edit MySQL using Navicat (A WONDERFUL PROGRAM!! THANKS JOHN MASON!!).
 But I realize my weaness is not in how to make DB changes, but what
 changes
 to make in setting up a DB in order to have CF do what I want it to do
 in
 designing our Corporate Intranet.

 Maybe the ACFUG library has something in it I can borrow? Charlie?

 Thanks in advance.

 Robert P. Reil
 Managing Director,
 Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.
 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
 Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
 Office 770-974-8851
 Fax 770-974-8852
 www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning curve vs best allocation of time vs money.

2007-01-12 Thread Teddy Payne

Robert,
If your goal is to be purely a business man, you will eventually seperate
yourself from the technology and have a person or team handle this for you.


As you are in the initial phases of this endeavor, you need to evaluate the
time it takes to grow the business with technology versus the cost of the
technology.  If you spend 10 hrs per week for 10 weeks to get one
technological deliverable, you will have have to wait for 10 weeks for
growth.

The real ability to grow is when you have your development working in
paralell to the business goals.  When the two coincide is when spurts of
growth or growth oppurtunity occur.

In your recent past and difficulty with your shopping cart choice, shrink
wrapped solutions tend to be inflexible as they try and cater to a broad
range of customers.  There is no one product on the market for any one given
requirement.

Developers typically merge multiple solutions together to custom fit their
clients.

Eventually, you will have to work up towards having your own customized tool
for managing your business.

If you are the one to push technology, do you have anyone to help alleviate
with business?

If you are doing both, there is not much you can do until you have a way to
delegate responsibilities based upon time versus growth.

Corporate level developers are typically hoarded in their scope.  A manager
will buffer as much as he/she can to avoid the developer from not focusing
on his/her forte.  This is typically not possible in small to medium
business.

If your goal is to read the entire WACK, then that is your goal.  Most CF
developers do not read the WACK cover to cover.  I see most of them tend to
reference when they are trying to do something.  We keep books, PDFs, blogs
and technical websites as our many sources of ways to search how to do this
widget and that widget.  Over time, we reference less commont tasks.

This is what I was referring to command line.

If you do hire a full time developer, who will check his/her work?  You will
have to know enough to ensure that your requirements are met.

Non-technical managers are a day to day challenge for developers.  This is
actually a trend that is slowing down.  I have read reports that companies
are expecting more of their C-level executives when it comes to technology.
If he cannot read his email, how can he be in touch with his/her business?

This is a lot to digest, but keep in mind that I have only covered an
inkling over many topics.  Most of the topics are also subjective, so you
will have lots of different styles of management and experiences.  You will
need to choose what is the right choie for you.

Teddy

On 1/12/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Granted... But what about the fact that it takes lots of time to learn
another way to do the same thing versus the time it takes to just navigate
to the click.

I am a business man working IN a business trying to find what precious
little time I can to work ON the business, so that one day the BUSINESS can
run the business.

In my case I have to realize I do not want to become a professional
programmer but gather enough skills to build tools that will generate income
or save expences so that I can afford a professional programmer to do such
work and that by that time I will be able to inteligently and effectively
communicate with said programmer as to what we need to make the business run
better.

If you feel I am missing the mark please, please do advise. You guys know
this stuff and the dynamics of corporations more than I.







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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning curve vs best allocation of time vs money.

2007-01-12 Thread Teddy Payne

Caveat: If I refer to anything as he or him without having the analagous
she or her,  most of generalities are meant to be unisex and gender
aganostic.

Apologies in advance,
Teddy


On 1/12/07, Howard Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In my book, it's a tradeoff between knowing exactly what you told the
tool to do on a command-line versus assuming what a GUI tool is doing.
For instance MYSQL has the ability to set a collation (what I would
have called a character set) on each table. You can do that explicitly
in the command-line. But the designer of the GUI tool has to play
trade-off between vomiting all the possible options on the user and
hiding/showing them to the user based on some idea of the user's
experience level. So if you just click the button that says Create
Table, unless there's some verbosity to the GUI, you may be setting
things that you may not want. I tend to start with the command line,
then play around with various GUI tools until I find one that
creates/manipulates the way I want it too, then just use the GUI.

Howard

On 1/12/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Granted... But what about the fact that it takes lots of time to learn
 another way to do the same thing versus the time it takes to just
navigate
 to the click.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning curve vs best allocation of time vs money.

2007-01-12 Thread Teddy Payne

*chuckle* Thanks Robert.  If there is a need to continue this, we can move
it over to the community list to spare folks the banter of me trying to be
self effacing.

Teddy


On 1/12/07, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 LOL. Go teddy, go teddy, go teddy
Come on guys cheer him on!


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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*Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2007 2:00 PM
*To:* Carbs SalesService
*Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning curve vs best allocation of time
vs money.


 Flattery gets you everywhere.  Brownie points to the red head ;)

Teddy


On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I think by now, most of us gals have figured that one out.  Unless you
 are some traditional guy that expects dinner on the table when he gets home;
 which I don't think applies to you.  :)

 mcg



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -

 To: discussion@acfug.org
 From: Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 01/12/2007 11:38AM
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Learning curve vs best allocation of time
 vs money.

 Caveat: If I refer to anything as he or him without having the
 analagous she or her,  most of generalities are meant to be unisex and
 gender aganostic.

 Apologies in advance,
 Teddy


  On 1/12/07, Howard Fore  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  In my book, it's a tradeoff between knowing exactly what you told the
  tool to do on a command-line versus assuming what a GUI tool is doing.
 
  For instance MYSQL has the ability to set a collation (what I would
  have called a character set) on each table. You can do that explicitly
 
  in the command-line. But the designer of the GUI tool has to play
  trade-off between vomiting all the possible options on the user and
  hiding/showing them to the user based on some idea of the user's
  experience level. So if you just click the button that says Create
  Table, unless there's some verbosity to the GUI, you may be setting
  things that you may not want. I tend to start with the command line,
  then play around with various GUI tools until I find one that
  creates/manipulates the way I want it too, then just use the GUI.
 
  Howard
 
  On 1/12/07, Robert Reil  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  
   Granted... But what about the fact that it takes lots of time to
  learn
   another way to do the same thing versus the time it takes to just
  navigate
   to the click.
 
  --
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  Gliddy glub gloopy / Nibby nabby noopy / La la la lo lo / Sabba sibby
 
  sabba / Nooby abba nabba / Le le lo lo / Tooby ooby walla / Nooby abba
 
  naba / Early morning singing song - Good Morning Starshine
 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Urgent help needed.. CF custom tag to read tab delimited text file. HOw to add trim functionality??

2007-01-11 Thread Teddy Payne

Ajas,
First, capitalization inside your emails does not emphasize a point, but
rather will turn most people away from answering your question.

As for your code, you are reading a file that has a set delimeter.  As you
are probably aware, CF has several handy functions around lists.  Lists are
not data types, but strings manipulated in very much the same functionality
that you are creating.  I would validate the overall string that it
satisfied the delimeter that I would be looking for and then after that, I
could either just use lists if it is a small data set or I would convert the
list to an array using ListToArray() for alrger data sets.

At that point, you can use Trim() to remove white space or if you want more
control you can REReplace() other characters that you do not want inside of
your element.

It seems to me that you are introducing complexity.

Teddy



On 1/10/07, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I parse to check data validation and if any required fields are empty. But
as I mentioned earlier, the trim or replace or even the validation is
temporary since the actual file is stored on the server and the Trim/Replace
functions just works on the file by creating Array I think but doesnt
ACTUALLY SAVE/WRITE TRIMMED COL VALUES  TO THE FILE. I am sorry if its
confusing but Please look at the code I had sent in 1st email for the Custom
Tag.

Thanks. Let me know if its not clear.



On 1/10/07, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In your custom tag, are you parseing your results?  If you are, you can
 use any number of ways to get rid of spaces.  Trim() and REReplace() are
 just a couple of ways.

 Teddy


  On 1/10/07, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  oh man... I was being so stupid... Heres what was happening.
  The custom tag was parsing the file etc which is fine but the file is
  uploaded to a server and then the custom tag does it stuff. So technically
  the file with spaces is there on the server to be loaded into SQL SERVER.
 
  Here is the code :
 
  !--- Upload file to shared folder. ---
  cffile
  action=upload
  fileField=demographics_file
  destination=#application.demographics_folder#
  nameConflict=overwrite /
 
  !--- Save file name. ---
  cfset file_location = cffile.serverDirectory  \ 
  cffile.serverFile /
 
  !--- Parse the file line by line. ---
  cf_demographicParser str_Filename=#file_location#
  So here the custom tag gets called and I check for errors in the file.
 
  Now my question is, How can i make the changes made in custom tag i.e.
  trim part saved in the file? maybe upload it again i.e. overwrite old
  file??
 
  Is this doable?? Plz suggest...
 
  Thanks in advance...
 
  On 12/22/06, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   Thanks everyone.
  
   Douglas Knudsen -- Will replace take care of tabs also??? or shall
   i need to say chr(9) for example :
  
   str_Token = Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos,
   int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All');
  
   replaced with this code
  
   cfset str_Token = Replace(Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content,
   int_CurrPos, int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All',Chr(9),'All');
  
   Any suggestions?? should Chr(9) be in quotes???
  
   Ajas Mohammed.
  
  
   On 12/22/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
If the records already exists in a database, you will need to run
a stored procedure to scrub and clean your data.  Since you are running 
SQL
Server 2000, you can use table variables to perform this very quickly.
   
Example:
   
   
declare
 @firstName varchar(50)
 , @maxRows int
 , @currentRow int
   
select
 @currentRow = 1
   
   
declare @dataSet table
(
 rowID int identity (1, 1) primary key not null
 , pkID int
  , firstName varchar(50) not null
)
   
insert into
 @dataSet
select
 firstName
from
 tblFoo
   
select
 @maxRows = count(rowID)
from
 @dataSet
   
while @currentRow = @maxRows
begin
   
 select
  @firstName = firstName
  , @pkID = pkID
 from
  @dataSet
 where
  rowID = @currentRow
   
 select @firstName = LTrim(RTrim(@firstName))
   
 update
  tblFoo
 set
  firstName = @firstName
 where
  pkID = @pkID
   
 select @currentRow = @currentRow + 1
   
end
   
Kind of like that.  You can scrub full tables at a time by adding
more columns to the table variable.
Teddy
   
   
   
On 12/22/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 not sure of the SLQ Server stuff, but in the CF code below you
 can utilise: Trim(Replace(myString,' ','')).  Actually, looks like 
the code
 is already using Trim(), just need to add the Replace() as above to 
remove
 intermediate spaces.

 str_Token = Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos,
 int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All');


 DK

 On 12/21/06, Ajas Mohammed

[ACFUG Discuss] January Presentation

2007-01-11 Thread Teddy Payne

Is there any status on the availability of Andy's presentation from the
January meeting?
I did not see a link available.

Teddy

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[ACFUG Discuss] CF 7.0.2 Security Update

2007-01-10 Thread Teddy Payne

If you have not already seen this from blog entries like Ray Camden or the
Security Bulletins page http://www.adobe.com/support/security/#coldfusion ,
here is a security update released yesterday:

http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb07-02.html

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Urgent help needed.. CF custom tag to read tab delimited text file. HOw to add trim functionality??

2007-01-10 Thread Teddy Payne

In your custom tag, are you parseing your results?  If you are, you can use
any number of ways to get rid of spaces.  Trim() and REReplace() are just a
couple of ways.

Teddy


On 1/10/07, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


oh man... I was being so stupid... Heres what was happening.
The custom tag was parsing the file etc which is fine but the file is
uploaded to a server and then the custom tag does it stuff. So technically
the file with spaces is there on the server to be loaded into SQL SERVER.

Here is the code :

!--- Upload file to shared folder. ---
cffile
action=upload
fileField=demographics_file
destination=#application.demographics_folder#
nameConflict=overwrite /

!--- Save file name. ---
cfset file_location = cffile.serverDirectory  \  cffile.serverFile /

!--- Parse the file line by line. ---
cf_demographicParser str_Filename=#file_location#
So here the custom tag gets called and I check for errors in the file.

Now my question is, How can i make the changes made in custom tag i.e.
trim part saved in the file? maybe upload it again i.e. overwrite old
file??

Is this doable?? Plz suggest...

Thanks in advance...

On 12/22/06, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks everyone.

 Douglas Knudsen -- Will replace take care of tabs also??? or shall i
 need to say chr(9) for example :

 str_Token = Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos,
 int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All');

 replaced with this code

 cfset str_Token = Replace(Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content,
 int_CurrPos, int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All',Chr(9),'All');

 Any suggestions?? should Chr(9) be in quotes???

 Ajas Mohammed.


 On 12/22/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  If the records already exists in a database, you will need to run a
  stored procedure to scrub and clean your data.  Since you are running SQL
  Server 2000, you can use table variables to perform this very quickly.
 
  Example:
 
 
  declare
   @firstName varchar(50)
   , @maxRows int
   , @currentRow int
 
  select
   @currentRow = 1
 
 
  declare @dataSet table
  (
   rowID int identity (1, 1) primary key not null
   , pkID int
, firstName varchar(50) not null
  )
 
  insert into
   @dataSet
  select
   firstName
  from
   tblFoo
 
  select
   @maxRows = count(rowID)
  from
   @dataSet
 
  while @currentRow = @maxRows
  begin
 
   select
@firstName = firstName
, @pkID = pkID
   from
@dataSet
   where
rowID = @currentRow
 
   select @firstName = LTrim(RTrim(@firstName))
 
   update
tblFoo
   set
firstName = @firstName
   where
pkID = @pkID
 
   select @currentRow = @currentRow + 1
 
  end
 
  Kind of like that.  You can scrub full tables at a time by adding more
  columns to the table variable.
  Teddy
 
 
 
  On 12/22/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   not sure of the SLQ Server stuff, but in the CF code below you can
   utilise: Trim(Replace(myString,' ','')).  Actually, looks like the code is
   already using Trim(), just need to add the Replace() as above to remove
   intermediate spaces.
  
   str_Token = Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos,
   int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All');
  
  
   DK
  
   On 12/21/06, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
Hello everyone,
I need help on this one real quick. One of my colleauges used this
custom CF tag which parses a tab delimited text file and stores in 
array.
How do I add functionality to this code so that it would trim all the 
spaces
i.e either left or right or if value sent in txt file has
spaces?
   
If you understand the code , that will be great and if you could
pinpoint me to what needs to be done, then nothing like it... Also any
explanation of this code will help a lot.
   
I tried ltrim(rtrim(colvalue)) while inserting records but it
doesnt work in sql server 2000. Once records are inserted in table, I 
am not
able to trim the records.. If you know any sql server 2000 fix for 
removing
extra spaces left or right or remove extra spaces for values which are 
sent
with empty tabs or spaces???
   
Thanks in advance..if u cant open attachment , here is the code...
   
cfparam name=attributes.str_Filename default= /
cfparam name=attributes.str_LineDelimiter
default=#chr(13)##chr(10)# /
cfparam name=attributes.str_TokenDelimiter default=#chr(9)#
   
cffunction name=TokenizeLine returntype=array
cfargument name=str_Content type=string required=true
/
cfargument name=str_Delimiter type=string required=true
/
   
cfset var ar_Tokens = arrayNew(1) /
cfset var int_CurrPos = 1 /
cfset var int_NextPos = 1 /
cfset var str_Token =  /
   
cfscript
int_NextPos = REFind(#arguments.str_Delimiter#|$,
arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos);
while (int_NextPos gt 0)
{
str_Token = trim(mid

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Starting the New Year with ACFUG

2007-01-04 Thread Teddy Payne

Precia,
That was a good recap of the evenings festivities.  I will second that it
was indeed was a solid meeting! =)

Josh and Andy provided some great material.  It is great to see
ColdFusion(CFML) pushed into even more avenues of flexibility.  CFML will
soon be so diverse that Swiss Army will start feeling threatend.

I also thank the group for the oppurtunity to win the BD JX server.  I
believe knowing both Adobe's and New Atlanta's offerings will give me a
greater depth of knowledge for myself that translates into more options for
my clients.

The RSVP note was indeed important to note.  I suspect we did not have
enough pizza and frosty beverage for all of those who wanted to partake.

All in all, I hope to see everyone at either the next ACFUG or the AFFUG
meeting.  I shall be attending both.  I would gladly share another frosty
beverage with anyone willing to come.

Cheers,
Teddy


On 1/4/07, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Brooks,

This is a good point to bring up.  I miss classses on Wednesday, as well.
The first meeting is to get a voice from interested parties about such
issues.  I can not change the January date, but I will make an effort to get
this changed to another day of the week.

Precia


 On 1/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 Precia:

 It was a good meeting with a good turn out. I know that the AFFUG has
 settled on the 3rd Wednesday of the month to meet. I am interested in
 attending, but my church choir meets on Wednesday. I'm already missing the
 first Wednesday for ACFUG and really can't afford to miss another rehearsal
 every month. Would AFFUG consider meeting on another night of the week? If
 not, I may split my time between the two groups.

 P.S. We just launched our third Flex/Flash application.

 Sincerely,

 Brooks Wilson

 Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.
 - Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

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 To all of the subscribers of our mailing lists, our members, board and
 sponsors and friends, ACFUG would like to extend a very Happy New Year to
 you for being a part of our community!

 Last night, ACFUG started off the New Year off in an exciting way.  We
 had a great showing of people that included old friends and some new faces
 (Eric Gutke, Tony Terrana, Todd Tabberer, Sarah Chodrow).   Thank you
 everyone for taking the time to come and be a part of the ACFUG experience.
  The January meeting introduced several fresh ideas to the group.

 The new location was a collaboration of FusionLink and echo•eleven to
 provide a comfortable meeting location.   Thank you John Mason of FusionLink
 for providing the meeting facilities and Scott Talsman of echo•eleven for
 extending hospitality to our members mingling in the echo•eleven facilities.


 New Atlanta of the BlueDragon fame provided a grand prize this past
 meeting with a free license of BlueDragon 6.2 JX server.
 Congratulations to Teddy Payne for winning!ACFUG extends a special thank
 you to Josh Adams and Richard Baker from New Atlanta for taking the time to
 help make our first meeting of the year more enjoyable and helping our group
 learn about the new features of BlueDragon 7.   New Atlanta did not stop
 there as they sponsored the after party that compromised of adult beverages
 and snacks.

 Andy Powell of Universal Mind demonstrated yet another way that
 ColdFusion can be used in an AJAX based project from Adobe called Spry.
 Many of our members have heard of AJAX and Spry in recent days, but an
 actual testament of the usefulness of Spry reinforces a way to discern how
 and when to use Spry.


 The new user group, *Atlanta Flash Flex User* group (AFFUG) that will be
 meeting on the third Wednesday of each month.  The topics covered 1/17/07
 will be…

 Taming the Flex Wizard Shrew
 Jump into Flex with this tutorial on how to use the Flex wizards. Start
 using Flex and appreciating the power of Flex by using the Flex wizard to
 quickly and simply create rich interfaces. This tutorial will also go over
 what is happening during the wizard creation so that you can learn even more
 about good Flex code. Let's start creating mountains from a mole hill of
 work.

 Introduction to Flex Charting
 How do I populate a Flex chart component with data? What type of data
 can be used?If you have asked these questions before, this session will not
 only answer these questions, but provide working examples demonstrating how
 to use hard coded data, XML and ColdFusion returned queries.

 Flex Drag and Drop with ColdFusion
 How can Flex make your interface more user friendly? Drag and Drop. We
 will be discussing

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] XML CF

2007-01-02 Thread Teddy Payne

XML is typicaly there for storage of information in a homogenous way.
John's suggestion of WDDX makes short hand of CFML constructs and is
adaptable to JS and XML format.

XML is used for configuration files, datasources and webservices just as a
couple of examples.

A lot of Flex examples use XML as a way to have a datasource for demo code
without needing a remote call.

If the test is for demo only, XML datasources work nicely.

Teddy


On 1/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



For this project, a) I'm learning it, b) figured it would be easier to
deal with than creating a database and dealing with the ISP.  But for
another project, I'm looking at using it for faking that a prototype is
working for demo purposes - namely because the database is REALLY complex.

mcg




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What is a practical use for XML? What kind of situation would call for
using it?

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andrew
Powell*
Sent:* Monday, January 01, 2007 8:54 PM*
To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] XML  CF

Also, I would suggest Jeff Peters' book on the CF XML Object:

*http://www.cafepress.com/protonarts.50984013*http://www.cafepress.com/protonarts.50984013

ap


On Jan 1, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Andrew Powell wrote:


1. Read the XML file with CFFILE
2. Parse the xml string with xmlParse()
--optional, but recommended-- narrow your XML document down to an array of
of your data elements using xmlSearch() and the xPath to your data
3. loop over data and do what you will with it (conditionals to check,
etc.)
4. write it back to the server or whatever storage space you are using
(database, etc.)

As far as writing back the whole XML doc, that may be a matter of *not*using 
xmlSearch() and working with the whole document instead. I'm not sure
if xmlSearch() returns its array by reference or by value. Someone else may
be able to clear this up. In the livedocs someone says that searches on the
same XML doc *are NOT thread-safe within a shared scope*. This leads me to
think that the array returned by xmlSearch() is returned is a reference to
the original xml doc. If that is the case, then you can just manipulate that
data in the array that xmlsearch() returns and then write the original xml
back to a string with changes intact. I would not write it to an array of
structs or a query if you're going to write back as XML to the server or
database. Just manipulate the original XML doc and save the processing of
conversion.

To write it back to the server, you just toString(myXMLObj) within your
CFFILE action=write tag.




On Jan 1, 2007, at 8:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


I've not really worked with XML and CF. I've gotten some basics down, and
have looked, but am iffy on my logic.
-You read the XML file
-Read the length of the data from the XmlChildren array
-Loop over the parsed XML to put things into a query
-Output data or whatever
-Now to get a specific 'record', you do the same above, except putting an
if statement in your loop to add things your query (or select the specific
item in the query)
-To add/ modify/ delete things, you do whatever to the query, convert it
to XML (or modify the XML object itself) and then rewrite the XML file
This sounds cludgy to me, I've got to be missing something. What if you
have a large dataset (which I won't in this case)?
Thanks,
mcg
(Yes it's New Year's Day, but working on mom's website, and the USC - MICH
game isn't terribly interesting)


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] XML CF

2007-01-02 Thread Teddy Payne

I need to chime in here.  Charlie has given me this PDF in the past and I
have used the sample code in it more than once now.  It is a great and quick
read.  The types of examples are exactly what you need half the time.

Teddy


On 1/2/07, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 MCG, your initial explorations with XML and CF are not unusual. You've
gotten some good tips here so far. I'd like to offer a couple more--and not
just for Mary-Catherine but for anyone learning to deal with XML in CF. It's
one of those topics where--especially if you're new to XML in general--I'd
argue one would NOT be well-served by just looking at/copying code snippets.
You really need to get it first or you'll end up chasing your tail.
Further, there are often many ways to do something (even more than what' s
been proposed here).

The best resource I ever found, and which really sparked an Aha! moment
for me when I first read it a few years ago, is Nate Weiss's 30-page
article:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/xmlxslt.pdf

It's a real page-turner. Seriously. :-) Don't let the 30 pages scare you
off. You'll come out of it after an hour or so with tremendous appreciation
for what XML processing in CFML is about, including tips and techniques that
you might have struggled with to learn on your own. It was actually a
chapter in the original CFMX version of the WACK book which he was permitted
to release online. A wonderful resource, and as timely now as when it was
first released.

To address the why would I want to bother that Chris raised, in addition
to Teddy's point about Flex, another is that Spry and indeed many Ajax
solutions also leverage XML. Also, often one is given a file to read,
whether for data interchange as Andy indicated or for reading a file already
on your computer, since so many tools (including CF) now use XML files for
configuration.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/



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I will be using CF to get things in and out, just not sure of the best
logic.  I'm been looking at the docs plus some other sites out there and
copying code snippets.  Hoping it will set up some of the page flow for
later on.  Come on, trying to learn stuff here. :)

mcg




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If you are faking something for demo data use WDDX, it will be a whole
lot easier to use in CF.

On 1/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Like I said, for faking things for demo purposes (figured it would be
quick
 and dirty) and mom's little website (not much data).  :)

 mcg






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 XML is typicaly there for storage of information in a homogenous way.
  John's suggestion of WDDX makes short hand of CFML constructs and is
 adaptable to JS and XML format.

 XML is used for configuration files, datasources and webservices just as
a
 couple of examples.

 A lot of Flex examples use XML as a way to have a datasource for demo
code
 without needing a remote call.

 If the test is for demo only, XML datasources work nicely.

 Teddy


 On 1/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  For this project, a) I'm learning it, b) figured it would be easier to
deal
 with than creating a database and dealing with the ISP.  But for another
 project, I'm looking at using it for faking that a prototype is working
for
 demo purposes - namely because the database is REALLY complex.

  mcg








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  What is a practical use for XML? What kind of situation would call for
 using it?



  


  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew
Powell
  Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 8:54 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] XML  CF

  Also, I would suggest Jeff Peters' book on the CF XML Object:

  http://www.cafepress.com/protonarts.50984013

  ap


  On Jan 1, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Andrew Powell wrote:


  1. Read the XML file with CFFILE
  2. Parse the xml string with xmlParse()
  --optional, but recommended-- narrow your XML document down to an array
of
 of your data elements using xmlSearch() and the xPath to your data
  3. loop over data and do what you will with it (conditionals to check,
 etc.)
  4. write it back to the server or whatever

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Spam Filtering Tools

2006-12-27 Thread Teddy Payne

The only time that I use Outlook is for when I am at the office.  The
Exchange server has a spam filter.

I do not trust Outlook with my contacts.

For my professional and personal accounts, I have a Google Mail
(gmail) account which has a good filter for spam and not allowing picture
downloads unless you request them.

The standard tip for spam is never use the Unsubscribe feature unless it
was a service you originally signed up for.

I am not sure that helps you, but when I must use Outlook I will relay it
through my gmail and then forward the email after it has processed the spam
through to Outlook.

Teddy

On 12/27/06, Clarke Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like I'm getting more and more
spam these days. Do any of you have spam filtering tools that are working
well for you and will integrate with Outlook?

   Clarke

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CF. Object oriented its future. General Questions.

2006-12-27 Thread Teddy Payne

I also forgot conference.  I suggest CF United for CF related work and Adobe
MAX for Flex realted work.

There is also CF Objective and CF Frameworks conferences as well.

This of course is subject to availability and cost for you or your employer.

Teddy


On 12/27/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ajas,
From what I read of your synopsis, you have the right idea going forward.

The only thing that I would watch out for is the buzz word Agile.

I would call that a recent fad if you will.  I would suggest reading
about it and seeing what are the practical practices are.

Your knowledge of the database will make your CF easier.  I would
recommend upgrading your SQL Server knowledge to include 2005.  The
transition is not that difficult.

Oracle exposure is hard due to the cost typically for organizations.  The
same can be said about CF, but that is a die hard argument.

Also, I recommend getting on CF mailing lists (House of Fusion).  If you
already have, that is great.

Another approach is to help an open source project or create an open
source project to get exposure with working with your community more.

And lastly and always, attend your local CFUG to get local exposure.  ;)

Teddy


 On 12/27/06, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for all the replies. The comments from everyone make a lot of
 sense. I guess I will try to work on my datastructures concept in either
 java or C#. I have heard that majority of big companies like amazon ask
 questions related to datastructures, OOP's concepts etc so learning them
 might help in future.

 Just a quick overview of what I usually do so you guys can suggest
 something to me. I am working in CF for almost 2 years now with SQL Server
 2000 as backend. Work involves development plus lot of maintenance. I also
 work extensively on SQL Server using Procedures, T-SQL, DTS etc.
 I have lot of interest in Web Technologies and in free time I work on
 building websites and CSS being one of the hobbies.  I am believer in best
 practices, coding standards, commenting, Agile methodologies and I spend
 good time reading books and visiting forums. Dont have big plans for now but
 want to be an Web Architect or something like that. Trying to learn as much
 CF as I can. I want to know about every CF feature or cool thing out there
 and try it out. I have certifications in Oracle but didnt get much work
 exposure in it. I have thoughts of becoming Jr Oracle DBA by making switch
 but then I am not sure since I have already spent 2 yrs in CF and I think  I
 am mid level developer in that. I pretty much do any work given to me. Like
 for Example I did Subversion setup  stuff in my company. So thats the
 story.  Some of my work

 http://geocities.com/masjid_annour/
 http://impetusindia.org/
 http://ajashadi.blogspot.com/2006/07/my-work-snapshots-please-comment.html



 Thanks once again for all the help. I really appreciate your time and
 patience.

 Ajas Mohammed.


 On 12/27/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  And the term architect or lead is also abused heavily in the
  industry.  I can't tell you the number of lead developers or
  architects I have met who couldn't design an app or code for sh!t!
  Often times people wind up with these titles because they have N
  years experience... but it doesn't mean they actually know how to do
  anything worth a damn.
 
  -dhs
 
 
  Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak
  minds.
   --Einstein
 
 
  On Dec 27, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
 
   adding to the cornucopia here, I'll add that the idea of a Lead or
   Architect may vary greatly from company to company or within a
   large organization.  An Architect on team A using CF Technology
   might have no knowledge of Java at all that a Architect on team B
   does and conversely.  Further more, their respective
   responsibilities maybe quite different, one may even code whilst
   the other lives in UML world.
  
   DK
  
  
   On 12/27/06, Teddy Payne  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I am a little late on this thread and Charlie has provided a
   plethora of knowledge.
  
   To be a lead at anything, it first starts out with your personal
   character.  Can you lead well?  Do people look to you?  Are people
   confident in your ability?
  
   I studied computer science before and really all you need is to
   learn the theory of architecture.  Let me stress the word theory
   here.  In computer science, you learn to apply the same pricipals
   over and over again to languages that only differed in syntax or
   implementation.
  
   Can you be a lead as a CF'er?  Sure.
   Does knowing OO help? You betcha.
   Do I have to be uber Java guy to be an architect?  Debateable.
  
   If you want to be an integration specialist, I would recommend
   learning Java with CF.  If you want to be a future lead, you will
   have to learn to detach from code eventually.  Higher

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Problem with XML

2006-12-27 Thread Teddy Payne

I also got the same error, but it depends on what you want to do with the
XML.  What are you looking to learn from the snippet?

Are you trying to get child nodes, attributes or values?

Teddy


On 12/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This example is straight from the O'Reilly book Programming ColdFusion
MX by Rob-Brooks-Bilson, but I can't get it to work.

cfxml variable=myXml
!--  employees for example.com --
company name=example.com
   !-- begin employee listings --
 employee id=1 years-service=10
   namePere Money/name
   titlePresident/title
 /employee
 employee id=2 years-service=5
   nameAaron Ridge/name
   titleAnalyst/title
 /employee
 employee id=3 years-service=4
   nameMartin Grant/name
   titleManager/title
 /employee
/company
/cfxml

cfcontent
type=text/xmlcfoutput#toString(myXml)#/cfoutput/cfcontent

When I browse the page from within Homesite, and when I navigate to the
page with IE, I get the following error:


The XML page cannot be displayed


Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet. Please correct the
error and then click the Refresh button, or try again later.


End tag was not expected at this location. Error processing
resource
'http://rtfustst.rtp.epa.gov/webteam/Practice/chapter0...


/td/td/td/th/th/th/tr/tr/tr/table/table...


If I cfdump the code, it looks like perfectly good XML.





Any suggestions?





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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Urgent help needed.. CF custom tag to read tab delimited text file. HOw to add trim functionality??

2006-12-22 Thread Teddy Payne

If the records already exists in a database, you will need to run a stored
procedure to scrub and clean your data.  Since you are running SQL Server
2000, you can use table variables to perform this very quickly.

Example:


declare
@firstName varchar(50)
, @maxRows int
, @currentRow int

select
@currentRow = 1


declare @dataSet table
(
rowID int identity (1, 1) primary key not null
, pkID int
 , firstName varchar(50) not null
)

insert into
@dataSet
select
firstName
from
tblFoo

select
@maxRows = count(rowID)
from
@dataSet

while @currentRow = @maxRows
begin

select
 @firstName = firstName
 , @pkID = pkID
from
 @dataSet
where
 rowID = @currentRow

select @firstName = LTrim(RTrim(@firstName))

update
 tblFoo
set
 firstName = @firstName
where
 pkID = @pkID

select @currentRow = @currentRow + 1

end

Kind of like that.  You can scrub full tables at a time by adding more
columns to the table variable.
Teddy



On 12/22/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


not sure of the SLQ Server stuff, but in the CF code below you can
utilise: Trim(Replace(myString,' ','')).  Actually, looks like the code is
already using Trim(), just need to add the Replace() as above to remove
intermediate spaces.

str_Token = Replace(trim(mid(arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos,
int_NextPos - int_CurrPos)),' ','', 'All');


DK

On 12/21/06, Ajas Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I need help on this one real quick. One of my colleauges used this
 custom CF tag which parses a tab delimited text file and stores in array.
 How do I add functionality to this code so that it would trim all the spaces
 i.e either left or right or if value sent in txt file has spaces?

 If you understand the code , that will be great and if you could
 pinpoint me to what needs to be done, then nothing like it... Also any
 explanation of this code will help a lot.

 I tried ltrim(rtrim(colvalue)) while inserting records but it doesnt
 work in sql server 2000. Once records are inserted in table, I am not able
 to trim the records.. If you know any sql server 2000 fix for removing extra
 spaces left or right or remove extra spaces for values which are sent with
 empty tabs or spaces???

 Thanks in advance..if u cant open attachment , here is the code...

 cfparam name=attributes.str_Filename default= /
 cfparam name=attributes.str_LineDelimiter
 default=#chr(13)##chr(10)# /
 cfparam name=attributes.str_TokenDelimiter default=#chr(9)#

 cffunction name=TokenizeLine returntype=array
 cfargument name=str_Content type=string required=true /
 cfargument name=str_Delimiter type=string required=true /

 cfset var ar_Tokens = arrayNew(1) /
 cfset var int_CurrPos = 1 /
 cfset var int_NextPos = 1 /
 cfset var str_Token =  /

 cfscript
 int_NextPos = REFind(#arguments.str_Delimiter#|$,
 arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos);
 while (int_NextPos gt 0)
 {
 str_Token = trim(mid(arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos,
 int_NextPos - int_CurrPos));
 arrayAppend(ar_Tokens, str_Token);
 int_CurrPos = int_NextPos + len(arguments.str_Delimiter );
 int_NextPos = REFind(#arguments.str_Delimiter#|$,
 arguments.str_Content, int_CurrPos);
 }

 // If the line ends with a token, add
 // an extra empty element to the array
 if (len(arguments.str_Content) gt 0and mid(
 arguments.str_Content, len(arguments.str_Content), 1) is
 arguments.str_Delimiter)
 {
 arrayAppend(ar_Tokens, );
 }
 /cfscript

 cfreturn ar_Tokens /
 /cffunction

 cfif ThisTag.ExecutionMode is Start
 !---  Read the file and inititialize position and caller
 variables.  ---
 cffile action=read file=#attributes.str_Filename#
 variable=str_Content /
 cfset int_CurrPos = 1 /
 cfset caller.TextParse.str_Line =  /
 cfset caller.TextParse.ar_Tokens = arrayNew(1) /
 /cfif

 !---  Find the next delimiter. The regular expression
 #attributes.str_LineDelimiter#|$
 finds the next line delimiter OR the end of the string.  ---
 cfset int_NextPos = REFind(#attributes.str_LineDelimiter#|$,
 str_Content, int_CurrPos) /

 cfif int_NextPos gt 0
 !---  Get and return the line and tokens.  ---
 cfset str_Line = mid(str_Content, int_CurrPos, int_NextPos -
 int_CurrPos) /
 cfset caller.TextParse.str_Line = str_Line /
 cfset caller.TextParse.ar_Tokens = TokenizeLine(str_Line,
 attributes.str_TokenDelimiter) /

 !---  Reset the current position.  ---
 cfset int_CurrPos = int_NextPos + len(attributes.str_LineDelimiter)
 /
 /cfif

 cfif ThisTag.ExecutionMode is End
 !---  Keep looping as long as we have content to process.  ---
 cfif int_NextPos gt 0
 cfexit method=Loop /
 /cfif
 /cfif


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] image generator/validator spam prevention

2006-12-21 Thread Teddy Payne

1) Captcha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha)

2) http://lyla.maestropublishing.com/


On 12/21/06, Tepfer, Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I know this has come up previously, but I don't know what to search for.

I need to generate an image that has that skewed text on it, so that
spammers can't read it, to validate the form submission is a human.

1) What do you *CALL *that* *thing?

2) Do you know if there is a tag or function out there somewhere
(hopefully free) that auto generates it?

Thanks

seth

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] image generator/validator spam prevention

2006-12-21 Thread Teddy Payne

Seth,
This may help you http://akismet.com/faq/

And check this out: http://devnulled.com/cfakismet

Teddy

On 12/21/06, Tepfer, Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thanks for the help – depressing as it might seem. Well, I'm going to try
Emerle for now and I'll start implementing a blacklist. What a pain!

Thanks again.

seth

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Smith Project

2006-12-19 Thread Teddy Payne

Vince,
That is excellent adoption of JVM integration.  I can hope Adobe picks up on
this trend as well.

Teddy


On 12/18/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've heard of some folks using Java 5 with CF.  Seems these cases though
only require standard CFML or something.  I tried it for kicks, kills
webservices and cfldap IIRC.

DK

On 12/18/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am just hoping the support of Java 5 will help alleviate previous
 bottlenecks.  It is sad to see graphs of various performance charts and
 Adobe ranks pretty poorly.  I understand some of these charts are deceptive
 and situational, but none-the-less you want Adobe as the original owner to
 look just as good.

 Teddy


  On 12/18/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
   VERY interesting...
 
 
  Robert P. Reil
 
  Managing Director,
 
  Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.
 
  4292 Country Garden Walk NW
 
  Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
 
  Office 770-974-8851
 
  Fax 770-974-8852
 
  www.motorcyclecarbs.com
 
 
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  *Sent:* Monday, December 18, 2006 11:53 AM
  *To:* Carbs SalesService
  *Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Smith Project
 
 
 
  Anyone seen this yet?
 
  http://www.smithproject.org/
 
  Smith is a freeware, cross-platform ColdFusion engine, written
  entirely in Java. Running on the top of *Java Runtime Environment* and
  *Java Servlet Container *, it can be virtually deployed on any
  operating system and work with any web server. Smith represents lightweight,
  yet reliable alternative to the existing ColdFusion servers. It supports
  most important CF features (see 
*Features*http://www.smithproject.org/product_features.cfm)
  and already drives several large ColdFusion applications.
 
  Deeply integrated in J2EE, Smith works as part of ordinary Java Web
  application and can easily be used together with servlets and JSPs. The
  server behaviour is easily configurable through the simple Web interface
  where database connections, debugging options, server mappings and more can
  be set.
 
  Smith is freeware software, which means that it comes with permission
  for anyone to use, copy, and distribute it. It is also being seriously
  considered to open-source it.
 
 
  Shawn Gorrell
  Web Development Applications Architect
  Federal Reserve Bank - Atlanta
  Office (404)  498-8449
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Smith Project

2006-12-18 Thread Teddy Payne

I am just hoping the support of Java 5 will help alleviate previous
bottlenecks.  It is sad to see graphs of various performance charts and
Adobe ranks pretty poorly.  I understand some of these charts are deceptive
and situational, but none-the-less you want Adobe as the original owner to
look just as good.

Teddy


On 12/18/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 VERY interesting...


Robert P. Reil

Managing Director,

Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.

4292 Country Garden Walk NW

Kennesaw, Ga. 30152

Office 770-974-8851

Fax 770-974-8852

www.motorcyclecarbs.com


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*Sent:* Monday, December 18, 2006 11:53 AM
*To:* Carbs SalesService
*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Smith Project



Anyone seen this yet?

http://www.smithproject.org/

Smith is a freeware, cross-platform ColdFusion engine, written entirely in
Java. Running on the top of *Java Runtime Environment* and *Java Servlet
Container*, it can be virtually deployed on any operating system and work
with any web server. Smith represents lightweight, yet reliable alternative
to the existing ColdFusion servers. It supports most important CF features
(see *Features* http://www.smithproject.org/product_features.cfm) and
already drives several large ColdFusion applications.

Deeply integrated in J2EE, Smith works as part of ordinary Java Web
application and can easily be used together with servlets and JSPs. The
server behaviour is easily configurable through the simple Web interface
where database connections, debugging options, server mappings and more can
be set.

Smith is freeware software, which means that it comes with permission for
anyone to use, copy, and distribute it. It is also being seriously
considered to open-source it.


Shawn Gorrell
Web Development Applications Architect
Federal Reserve Bank - Atlanta
Office (404)  498-8449
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] unit testing

2006-12-15 Thread Teddy Payne

http://www.asfusion.com/blog/entry/cfcunit-runner-released

On 12/15/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/cfcUnit_Runner_Flex_app
with repect to a recent cf_lunch :)  w00t!
Swear I saw another runner around recently on a blog, but alas, too many
disparate bookmark lists!

DK

On 12/14/06, Steven Ross  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 CFCUnit is good for most things just make sure when you are
 setting up your tests that you customize your fail scenarios to
 include your object/variable that fails. I've also had some issues
 with debugging giving me bad error messages (saying one thing when
 actually  it was another) I think that has to do with the try/catch
 mechanism.

 I havent tried cfunit

 On 12/14/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ok, I'm wanting to start messing with unit testing of CFCs and
 introduce it
  to some staff.  I must admit, I'm a bit behind on this topic.  I see
 two
  projects about cfcUnit and CFUnit.  Any opinions on these?
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Client talking points

2006-12-07 Thread Teddy Payne

Seth,
You also have to look at your selling point.  The client did not make this
decision on his/her own.  Someone has influenced this person.

Are you primarily a CF developer?  This may be a deal breaker if you cannot
deliver the product in the same amount of time as if it was written in CF.

Just real quick:
CF can be deployed using more than just Microsoft products, so legacy
support and future hybrid network topologies is possible.

Teddy

On 12/7/06, Tepfer, Seth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have been in the preliminary stages with a client. I had set up an
extensive project charter and a prototype website. Suddenly this client
emails me last night and says I think I should be using .net instead of
ColdFusion. Let's meet on Thursday afternoon and discuss this



I am looking for some quick and dirty speaking points to say why CF over
other languages (including .net). The obvious ones to me are

* rapid development

* ease of maintenance

* less time in development/maintenance = lower bottom line

* other?

* stats to justify this?



I do not want to start a flame war over .net versus CF. I'm just looking
for speaking points (perhaps with some URLs for reference for some useful
statistics). Any help would be appreciated. If this has been done previously
and is archived in an FAQ, please point me in the right direction. I didn't
see clear case justification at the Adobe/MM site – is it there and I just
missed it?



Thanks.

Seth

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Client talking points

2006-12-07 Thread Teddy Payne

Not to mention, what can't CF plug into?

Every major RDBMS is supported with either native drivers or the ability to
use JDBC drivers that worked rather seamlessly.

CF uses every major OS.

CF uses every major web server as well.

Teddy

On 12/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



What about support?  I know CF has a large community as well (AKA free
support).  What about BlueDragon (if you don't already have an Adobe CF
server)?

We had a customer say that they didn't want a calendar in our application
because it would take to long to program.  Um, cfcalendar anyone?

mcg




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Hi Seth. I am first and foremost a business guy. I'm currently managing
projects in both .Net and ColdFusion. Of course, both work great and can be
used to create nearly any application.

Unless there's a compelling reason to use .Net (The project is for
Microsoft or there's some other religious commitment to .Net), I prefer
ColdFusion. The only downside is the extra cost to license CF, but this is
quickly made up through:

- Faster Development
- Lower Cost Development
- In general, CF developers with comparable capabilities are less
expensive than their .Net counterparts.

I don't have any stats for you, but this is the bottom line: Faster,
Cheaper, and Just as Good.

   Clarke

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Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] OT: Client talking points

I have been in the preliminary stages with a client. I had set up an
extensive project charter and a prototype website. Suddenly this client
emails me last night and says I think I should be using .net instead of
ColdFusion. Let's meet on Thursday afternoon and discuss this

I am looking for some quick and dirty speaking points to say why CF over
other languages (including .net). The obvious ones to me are
* rapid development
* ease of maintenance
* less time in development/maintenance = lower bottom line
* other?
* stats to justify this?

I do not want to start a flame war over .net versus CF. I'm just looking
for speaking points (perhaps with some URLs for reference for some useful
statistics). Any help would be appreciated. If this has been done previously
and is archived in an FAQ, please point me in the right direction. I didn't
see clear case justification at the Adobe/MM site – is it there and I just
missed it?

Thanks.
Seth


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Read Receipts

2006-12-07 Thread Teddy Payne

I dislike the read receipt as well, but I have all my mail accounts sent to
my gmail, so if the read receipt is actually happening then I would not
know.

Teddy


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Thanks for catching that. I was about to send you an email to let me know.

Take the following as an honest opinion. I don't want to anger anyone on
this, but read-receipts are one of those things I have a problem with.
It's
nothing against you Mark or anyone else who uses them. I know it's a
popular
tool that people use. But I really don't see a good reason why anyone
needs
a receipt when/if I view an email. When you think about it, it's a bit
rude
actually. IMHO, I rather wish that it was never created in the first
place.

Ok, I got that off my chest. I'll check to see if there's some way to
strip
that out of the headers, but on the flip side, it would be far easier just
to turn it off on the client side.

John


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Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Read Receipts

Is there anyway a mail server could be setup to strip out the read_receipt
requested part of the mail header so that idiots like myself who forget to
turn the option off before sending mail to the list don't have to share
their memory lapses? Just curious. Thanks.

mf


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] installing CF 701 or 702 dev edition on xp tablet edition

2006-12-06 Thread Teddy Payne

That is not good.  This may be a case for either BD .Net or Railo.  I am not
sure of their supported systems.  Perhaps others ahve deployed other CF
flavors on custom PC solutions.

Teddy


On 12/6/06, Max Immelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Teddy,

Thanks for your prompt reply. The services you mention do not exist. Adobe
documentation states supported OS's for Windows is XP home  pro (and
others), the exact OS is Microsoft windows XP tablet edition 2005, version
2002.

I'm going to be on the road from now until 5pm today, so I won't be able
to reply. But I'm desperately in need of a work around so if any of have any
ideas please let me know, thx!

Max

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When you installed CF 7, did it register ColdFusion MX 7 ODBC Agent and
ColdFusion MX 7 ODBC Server in your XP services?  If the servervices were
loaded, are they started?

Teddy


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  Hi all,

 I'm having a problem installing CF7 dev version on a XP tablet edition.
 Anyone done this before? It seems like the install is successful but no ODBC
 services exist. I checked the registry and there's nothing. I'd appreciate
 any help on this. Thanks in advance!

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cftree

2006-12-06 Thread Teddy Payne

If you have a swf, supposedly this works:

http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/

Teddy


On 12/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Are you sure that you can do that? I thought that MS introduced the
ActiveX control activation concept because they got sued.


Shawn Gorrell
Web Development Applications Architect
Federal Reserve Bank - Atlanta
Office (404)  498-8449


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Hey,

Figured I'd give it one more shot.  Anyone have a link to a solution to
have my an ActiveX control (cftree) activitated automatically in IE, please?
 I found a couple googling them but neither worked properly.

Thanks,
Jeff


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Hey there,

I have one more question about cftree that I was hoping one of you gurus
could help me decide on.  I was asked to make it so you do not have to click
on the cftree control in IE after loading the page.   I've been googling
about and it seems like there are quite a few solutions out there.  The 2
that I've tried so far don't work correctly.  So, I ask you if you have a
solution that you use or can point me in the direction of one that funtions.


Thanks in advance,
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Detecting Missing .cfm Templates

2006-12-06 Thread Teddy Payne

Well, you didn't say that you had IIS access.  I have seen tricks with
404.htm that is handled by a 404.cfm before.  I have that archived someplace
from cf-talk.

Teddy


On 12/6/06, Clarke Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Thanks for all the ideas. I think I can specify a 404 page via IIS, so I
am going to try to do that. I played with it once before, but didn't get too
far, and I was hoping there was another way.

Thanks again,

   Clarke

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 .htm? what is that? There is no html anymore.  There is only parsed
html.  Bah!

Teddy

On 12/5/06, John Mason  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well that will do the trick for cfml pages but what about .htm files,
 etc. What is needed Clarke is for the 404 errors to be directed to a custom
 404 page that you build in cfml. That will grab any missing file for sure.

 John
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  Yes, BlueDragon does have an extra method for MissingTemplate.

 Not having access to the webserver or admin does make this very
 difficult.

 I am not sure you can achieve this unless you have your application.cfcusing 
the onRequest method to try and include every request and then if the
 request fails, then you cflocation over to the error page.

 Teddy


 On 12/5/06, Justin Haygood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I think you can if you're using BlueDragon, not sure if you can with
  CFMX.
 
 
 
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Clarke
  Bishop
  *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:09 PM
  *To:* discussion@acfug.org
  *Subject:* RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Detecting Missing .cfm Templates
 
 
 
  No, just anywhere, including a user typing the URL in their browser or
  via bookmark.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Payne
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  Are the missing templates being called from cfinclude? Or just
  handling missing .cfms just anywhere?
 
 
 
  Teddy
 
 
  On 12/5/06, *Clarke Bishop* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there a way to use Application.cfc's onError or onRequestStart
  methods to detect and handle a missing or moved .cfm template? Or is there
  another way to do this?
 
 
 
  I know there's a missing template section in CF Admin, but I am doing
  this on a shared host, and I can't access admin functions. Also, I can't use
  any server-level missing template functions.
 
 
 
  Thanks for any ideas!
 
 
 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cftree

2006-12-06 Thread Teddy Payne

Only thing I can say at this point is to make a flex object and load the
SWF.

Teddy


On 12/6/06, Jeff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


this is a solution that my team leader pointed me too that he used (and is
actually exactly what made him request that i do it) but it renders an empty
cftree control.  thanks though.

On 12/6/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have a swf, supposedly this works:

 http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/

 Teddy


  On 12/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 
  Are you sure that you can do that? I thought that MS introduced the
  ActiveX control activation concept because they got sued.
 
 
  Shawn Gorrell
  Web Development Applications Architect
  Federal Reserve Bank - Atlanta
  Office (404)  498-8449
 
 
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 To
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  Hey,
 
  Figured I'd give it one more shot.  Anyone have a link to a solution
  to have my an ActiveX control (cftree) activitated automatically in IE,
  please?  I found a couple googling them but neither worked properly.
 
  Thanks,
  Jeff
 
 
  On 12/6/06, *Jeff Howard*  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  Hey there,
 
  I have one more question about cftree that I was hoping one of you
  gurus could help me decide on.  I was asked to make it so you do not have to
  click on the cftree control in IE after loading the page.   I've been
  googling about and it seems like there are quite a few solutions out there.
   The 2 that I've tried so far don't work correctly.  So, I ask you if you
  have a solution that you use or can point me in the direction of one that
  funtions.
 
  Thanks in advance,
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Detecting Missing .cfm Templates

2006-12-05 Thread Teddy Payne

Are the missing templates being called from cfinclude? Or just handling
missing .cfms just anywhere?

Teddy

On 12/5/06, Clarke Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Is there a way to use Application.cfc's onError or onRequestStart methods
to detect and handle a missing or moved .cfm template? Or is there another
way to do this?

I know there's a missing template section in CF Admin, but I am doing this
on a shared host, and I can't access admin functions. Also, I can't use any
server-level missing template functions.

Thanks for any ideas!

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Detecting Missing .cfm Templates

2006-12-05 Thread Teddy Payne

.htm? what is that? There is no html anymore.  There is only parsed html.
Bah!

Teddy

On 12/5/06, John Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Well that will do the trick for cfml pages but what about .htm files,
etc. What is needed Clarke is for the 404 errors to be directed to a custom
404 page that you build in cfml. That will grab any missing file for sure.

John
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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 Yes, BlueDragon does have an extra method for MissingTemplate.

Not having access to the webserver or admin does make this very difficult.

I am not sure you can achieve this unless you have your application.cfcusing 
the onRequest method to try and include every request and then if the
request fails, then you cflocation over to the error page.

Teddy


On 12/5/06, Justin Haygood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think you can if you're using BlueDragon, not sure if you can with
 CFMX.



 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Clarke
 Bishop
 *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:09 PM
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 No, just anywhere, including a user typing the URL in their browser or
 via bookmark.






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 Are the missing templates being called from cfinclude? Or just handling
 missing .cfms just anywhere?



 Teddy


 On 12/5/06, *Clarke Bishop* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there a way to use Application.cfc's onError or onRequestStart
 methods to detect and handle a missing or moved .cfm template? Or is there
 another way to do this?



 I know there's a missing template section in CF Admin, but I am doing
 this on a shared host, and I can't access admin functions. Also, I can't use
 any server-level missing template functions.



 Thanks for any ideas!



Clarke


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cftree

2006-12-04 Thread Teddy Payne

Here is a flash form way of how AS Fusion handled documents:

http://www.asfusion.com/projects/fileexplorer/

I use it to manage my file directory easier than Wndows Explorer for my web
related tasks.

Teddy


On 12/4/06, Jeff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hey all,

I've not used this control before but I was wanting to use it for a
document control application I am developing.

I am having an issue with however that I'm hoping someone can help with.
My tree is either expanded or collapsed but I can't seem to get it to work
like a true tree control where when you click on a folder it expands or
collapses.  Is this an issue with CFTree or am I just overlooking
something.  I tried experimenting with the 'expand' parameter but it has no
effect on the function of the tree.  It either makes the tree expanded and
unable to collapse on 'yes' or collapsed and unable to expand when set to
'no'.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff Howard

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] cftree

2006-12-04 Thread Teddy Payne

Jeff,
As for the CFTree not expanding or expanding, the example that I sent you
does both and allows for CFTree to populated dynamically in a flash form
from a database.

So in short, CFTree does have the technology.

Teddy


On 12/4/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Jeff, a couple places to start to help would be to ask what version of CF
you are using, and if CFMX or above, whether you are using the
format=Flash or the older (default) java applet-based approach.

Better still, though, have you tried the samples that are provided with CF
in the Getting Started Experience? Assuming you installed those and/or the
docs, there are examples of both types, and more trees (XML and object) at:

serverCFIDE/gettingstarted/experience/snippets/Tags/cftree/

They work fine for me and do demonstrate the expansion of folders that
you're asking about.  If you don't have them installed, let me know and
I'll email you the 2 example files (they stand alone) off-list.

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/

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 Hey all,

I've not used this control before but I was wanting to use it for a
document control application I am developing.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Frame bustin'

2006-12-01 Thread Teddy Payne

Ok, you three are scary.  That code was all the same.

Teddy


On 12/1/06, Justin Haygood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If (window.top.location != window.location ) window.top.location =
window.location;



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*Subject:* [ACFUG Discuss] Frame bustin'



Anyone have a good, working method of frame busting? I ask because the JS
i have been using does not work when someone uses a web proxy (annon.) to
browse a site.



Examples that do not work (among many):



SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JavaScript

  if (top.frames.length!=0)

   top.location=self.document.location;

/SCRIPT



script

if (parent.frames.length  0) {

parent.location.href = self.document.location

}

/script





When someone uses a service such as  http://www.anonymousproxyworld.com/
they can strip the javascript but even when they don't, it does not work.
They frame the page and append the meta data with their URL.



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] MS 2k and CF/JRun and time zone patch

2006-11-30 Thread Teddy Payne

Have you dumped out now() on the servers?  Are they correct?

Teddy

On 11/30/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


they were reset after the patch when the box was rebooted.  I'm told the
TZ piece was only a registry change too concerning when DST starts/stops.

DK


 On 11/30/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Were the CF isntances brought down during the patch?

 Teddy


  On 11/30/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  yeah, but at the OS level its set correctly.  AFAIK, nowhere to change
  this in CF server.
 
  DK
 
 
   On 11/30/06, Bryan Tidd [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
Like its set to GMT instead of GMT-5 somewhere?
  
  
  
   Bryan
  
  
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   The great and mighty syadmins here patched up our web servers last
   night.  Apparently one of the patches was for a daylight savings time
   issue.  Now all my CF logs, three different servers and 6 instances of CF,
   all are timestamping logs with a time 5 hours off.  Anyone else see this?
  
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] First try at a real CF edit

2006-11-30 Thread Teddy Payne

Justin,
Considering we do not see % above the code or if the HTML is surrounded by
a tag based JSP declaration, it can look like JSP, Perl and PHP.

Robert,
You can tell if a file is ColdFusion by the extension of the file.

ColdFusion: .cfm, .cfc, .cfml
PHP: .php
Perl: .pl, .cgi
JSP: .jpg

These are the most commin file extensions for the related technologies.

Teddy


On 11/30/06, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Just a hunch, try to add (), like so:

$orderitem.getPartNumber()

/m



I am sorry if this question seems so incredibly simple but I am lost as to
what to do.

I need to make an edit to a CF file.

It has listed in some cells that create an email that is an order sheet
for us from an AbleCommerce cart.

[code]
  td class=Products
/td
  td class=Products$orderItem.getSKU()/td
  td class=Products$orderItem.getName()brfont
size=2strong$orderItem.getLineMessage()/strong/font/td
  td class=Products
align=right  
$LocaleUtils.formatCurrency($store,$orderItem.getUnitPrice(),br,true)/td
  td class=Products align=center
  div align=center$orderItem.getQuantity()/div/td
[/code]

The question is:

That I need the equivalent of a
  td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
For the first row to replace the
  td class=Products
/td

However when I revise that line of code to:
  td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
I get:
  $orderitem.getPartNumber? inside the cell output.

What is happening?
Why is it happening?
How do I fix it?

This app is CF on top of a Java app.
I wonder if the $orderitem.getPartNumber is a Java command and I should be
doing this some other way?

Any and all help would be appreciated.




Robert P. Reil
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Motorcyclecarbs.com, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com 



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] First try at a real CF edit

2006-11-30 Thread Teddy Payne

I had a typo on my last email:

JSP: .jsp

Teddy


On 11/30/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Justin,
Considering we do not see % above the code or if the HTML is surrounded
by a tag based JSP declaration, it can look like JSP, Perl and PHP.

Robert,
You can tell if a file is ColdFusion by the extension of the file.

ColdFusion: .cfm, .cfc, .cfml
PHP: .php
Perl: .pl, .cgi
JSP: .jpg

These are the most commin file extensions for the related technologies.

Teddy


 On 11/30/06, Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Just a hunch, try to add (), like so:

 $orderitem.getPartNumber()

 /m


 
 I am sorry if this question seems so incredibly simple but I am lost as
 to what to do.

 I need to make an edit to a CF file.

 It has listed in some cells that create an email that is an order sheet
 for us from an AbleCommerce cart.

 [code]
   td class=Products
 /td
   td class=Products$orderItem.getSKU()/td
   td class=Products$orderItem.getName()brfont
 size=2strong$orderItem.getLineMessage()/strong/font/td
   td class=Products
 align=right  
$LocaleUtils.formatCurrency($store,$orderItem.getUnitPrice(),br,true)/td
   td class=Products align=center
   div align=center$orderItem.getQuantity()/div/td
 [/code]

 The question is:

 That I need the equivalent of a
   td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
 For the first row to replace the
   td class=Products
 /td

 However when I revise that line of code to:
   td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
 I get:
   $orderitem.getPartNumber? inside the cell output.

 What is happening?
 Why is it happening?
 How do I fix it?

 This app is CF on top of a Java app.
 I wonder if the $orderitem.getPartNumber is a Java command and I should
 be doing this some other way?

 Any and all help would be appreciated.




 Robert P. Reil
 Managing Director,
 Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.
 4292 Country Garden Walk NW
 Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
 Office 770-974-8851
 Fax 770-974-8852
 www.motorcyclecarbs.com 



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 2020 Hills Avenue NW
 Atlanta, GA  30318

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 Fax:(404) 355-7930
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] First try at a real CF edit

2006-11-30 Thread Teddy Payne

Umm, wow.  That was from no where.  Flying cow patties would be a bad day.

Teddy


On 11/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I think it looks like cows flying

Ok, I've had a bad day.  Cows Flying would be a nice change.

mcg



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Just a hunch, try to add (), like so:

$orderitem.getPartNumber()

/m



I am sorry if this question seems so incredibly simple but I am lost as to
what to do.

I need to make an edit to a CF file.

It has listed in some cells that create an email that is an order sheet
for us from an AbleCommerce cart.

[code]
  td class=Products
/td
  td class=Products$orderItem.getSKU()/td
  td class=Products$orderItem.getName()brfont
size=2strong$orderItem.getLineMessage()/strong/font/td
  td class=Products align=right
 $LocaleUtils.formatCurrency($store,$orderItem.getUnitPrice(),br,true)/td

  td class=Products align=center
  div align=center$orderItem.getQuantity()/div/td
[/code]

The question is:

That I need the equivalent of a
  td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
For the first row to replace the
  td class=Products
/td

However when I revise that line of code to:
  td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
I get:
  $orderitem.getPartNumber? inside the cell output.

What is happening?
Why is it happening?
How do I fix it?

This app is CF on top of a Java app.
I wonder if the $orderitem.getPartNumber is a Java command and I should be
doing this some other way?

Any and all help would be appreciated.




Robert P. Reil
Managing Director,
Motorcyclecarbs.com http://motorcyclecarbs.com/, Inc.
4292 Country Garden Walk NW
Kennesaw, Ga. 30152
Office 770-974-8851
Fax 770-974-8852
www.motorcyclecarbs.com 



Mischa Uppelschoten
The Banker's Exchange, Inc.
2020 Hills Avenue NW
Atlanta, GA  30318

Phone:(404) 605-0100 ext. 10
Fax:(404) 355-7930
Web:www.BankersX.com http://www.bankersx.com/
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] First try at a real CF edit

2006-11-30 Thread Teddy Payne

I did send out a second email.  Sorry about the typo.

Java Server Pages (JSP) and Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG) are very
different animals.

Teddy

On 11/30/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I think Teddy may have meant for the JSP: .jpg to actually be JSP:.jsp
 … the .jpg is of course an image.



Correct if wrong please.



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Justin,

Considering we do not see % above the code or if the HTML is surrounded
by a tag based JSP declaration, it can look like JSP, Perl and PHP.



Robert,

You can tell if a file is ColdFusion by the extension of the file.



ColdFusion: .cfm, .cfc, .cfml

PHP: .php

Perl: .pl, .cgi

JSP: .jpg



These are the most commin file extensions for the related technologies.



Teddy



On 11/30/06, *Mischa Uppelschoten ext 10* 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just a hunch, try to add (), like so:

$orderitem.getPartNumber()

/m



I am sorry if this question seems so incredibly simple but I am lost as to
what to do.

I need to make an edit to a CF file.

It has listed in some cells that create an email that is an order sheet
for us from an AbleCommerce cart.

[code]
  td class=Products
/td
  td class=Products$orderItem.getSKU()/td
  td class=Products$orderItem.getName()brfont
size=2strong$orderItem.getLineMessage()/strong/font/td
  td class=Products
align=right  
$LocaleUtils.formatCurrency($store,$orderItem.getUnitPrice(),br,true)/td
  td class=Products align=center
  div align=center$orderItem.getQuantity()/div/td
[/code]

The question is:

That I need the equivalent of a
  td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
For the first row to replace the
  td class=Products
/td

However when I revise that line of code to:
  td class=Products $orderitem.getPartNumber /td
I get:
  $orderitem.getPartNumber? inside the cell output.

What is happening?
Why is it happening?
How do I fix it?

This app is CF on top of a Java app.
I wonder if the $orderitem.getPartNumber is a Java command and I should be
doing this some other way?

Any and all help would be appreciated.




Robert P. Reil
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] jrun.exe application error

2006-11-29 Thread Teddy Payne

What Java run time are you using and this may sound odd, but when was the
last time the server received some sort of maintenance like disk
defragmentation or a disk sector check?

Teddy


On 11/29/06, Debbie Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We are running Win2K with CFMX7.  Every day we get this error (sometimes
several times a day).



*The instruction at 0x0803ddf4 referenced memory at 0x.  The
memory could not be read.  Click OK to terminate the program.*



When we click OK, the CF application service restarts.



Does anyone have any advice on how to stop this error?





Thanks,

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] using REPLACE within CFQUERY for ACCESS db

2006-11-27 Thread Teddy Payne

Instead of beating your head against the screen, why not write a quick CF
template that will query for every title that has the word the in the
beginning and run a batch update against it.

In essence, you would just change The Big Lobowski to Big Lobowski,
The.  The template would probably not take too long depending on your
record set size and you would not have to worry about badly formed titles.

Since that site uses movie listings for certain things, IMDB has a Pro
service: https://secure.imdb.com/signup/v4/?d=IMDbTab which they offer the
ability to use their database.

Teddy

On 11/26/06, Tom Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I've run into many issues using CF-built queries on an Access db over
the years.  I recall one that had about a dozen doublequotes in
it.  Freaky!

Have you tried including the [] around the field name just for fun?

T

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, the double quotes in the query statements are simply a typo on my
 part. I didn't copy and paste the actual query,  I simply retyped it as
I
 wrote the email and out of bad habit used  quotes.

 The quotes ' or  is not the problem.  This query and/or using the
REPLACE
 function works perfectly well on all my SQL datasources.  This
particular
 site (still) has an Access db. And therein lies the rub.

 Yes, I could, and probably should, upsize the Access mdb to SQL-2000,
but
 for right now that's more trouble than simply making the query behave.

 So, any ideas on how to use the REPLACE function in a query on an Access
db?
 Or, baring that, how would you create a similar end result of ORDER BY
the
 mTitle column ignoring the if it is the first word in a movie title?

 Thanks,

 Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chambers
 Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:45 PM
 To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] using REPLACE within CFQUERY for ACCESS db

 did you try single quotes?



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an Access datasource for movie listings. mTitle is the
 column/field for the movie's Title. I need to output the records
 ordered by mTitle, however I need to ignore the when it is the first
 word.



 For example: The Big Lebowski should be ordered by B in Big, not T in
The.



 My solution was to create an alias column in my query wherein I
 REPLACEd the with  and then ORDER BY the alias column.



 SELECT

   mTitle,

   REPLACE(mTitle, the, ) AS titleOrder

 FROM

   movieTable

 ORDER BY

   titleOrder



 However, when I run this I get an error that the function REPLACE is
 undefined:



 [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC
 Microsoft Access Driver] Undefined function 'REPLACE' in expression.



 I have Googled for an answer to my problem (till I'm blue in the
 face) but can't find anything HELPFUL.



 Can anyone help OR suggest a different solution?



 Thanks,





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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Blue Dragon

2006-11-22 Thread Teddy Payne

What about hosting the site on an application service provider?  You don't
have to budget for the CF license then.  Is the client firm on the fact that
the Linux server must house the site?

Teddy

On 11/22/06, Dusty Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I have a new client I need to design a very simple app for and I would
prefer to do it in cold fusion because I could do it fast and not have to
charge much. The problem is that the dedicated server he has is a Linux
server and does not have CF on it.



Of course I know CF will run fine on a linux server but since there is no
budget to purchase a license for it, I assumed I would need to rethink it
and do this with PHP. However, then I though Blue Dragon maybe? Could anyone
tell me if my thoughts are worth researching more? Will Blue Dragon allow me
to develop my app with my local cf server then move to his server where I
install Blue Dragon on it? Do you think I will run into headaches and issues
with this approach.



Thanks ahead of time for any advice I get.



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending Java to Open Source

2006-11-13 Thread Teddy Payne
My apologies. I did not mean to smack Adam that hard. My hand slipped! Honest!TeddyOn 11/13/06, Adam Churvis 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






Among other things, it means that when the time comes 
(relatively soon), Sun will most likely wash their hands clean of--

*SMACK!*

(Sorry...)


Respectfully,
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discussion@acfug.org 
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  AM
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending 
  Java to Open Source
  
  How can Sun profit from such a move? How does this help sales 
  andstock dividends? I'm all for open-source, but I would also like 
  to see the company to stay in business.
  
  Precia
  On 11/13/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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   wrote: 
  
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_hi_te/sun_java_open_source_1 
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending Java to Open Source

2006-11-13 Thread Teddy Payne
I figured if I preemptively struck you, I could prevent anyone else from smacking you afterwards. This would cause them to hopefully take pity and be content with the initial effort and refrain from further abuse.
So in my little logic, I was saving you!Teddy On 11/13/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:






Oh, was that you, Teddy? I thoughtit was Ben, 
Sterling, and a few others.

That's okay. I deserved it. :)


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From: 
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  Payne 
  To: 
discussion@acfug.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:31 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending 
  Java to Open Source
  My apologies. I did not mean to smack Adam that 
  hard. My hand slipped! Honest!Teddy
  On 11/13/06, Adam 
  Churvis  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Among other things, it means that when the time comes 
(relatively soon), Sun will most likely wash their hands clean 
of--

*SMACK!*

(Sorry...)


Respectfully,
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Sun sending Java to Open Source

2006-11-13 Thread Teddy Payne
I am by no means the moderator of this list, but I might throw a yellow flag here in the back field.*announcer voice* Unnecessary spearing after the comment was dead. 5 second delay to the offense's line speed. Still first download. 
Game on.TeddyOn 11/13/06, Sterling Ledet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While your prescience was off-base, it's obvious in retrospect that you hadactually been a bit confused as to just which product would be next to beopen-sourced.You need to increase your doses of melange. (Apologies to the non-Dune fans
who won't understand this reference.Java is in my opinion, a lot closer tied to the future of ColdFusion thanjust the ActionScript code previously discussed. So actually, in my opinion,this announcement, while not in-any-way validating everything you said, does
indicate your point of view had at least some relevance. But, I would haveto venture that absolutely no one would ever dream that by outsourcing Java,Sun is actually washing it's hands of the technology.
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[ACFUG Discuss] CF Dump in JS?

2006-11-10 Thread Teddy Payne
We all know and love cfdump. How would you like to being to dump your objects and datatypes in JS too?http://www.netgrow.com.au/files/_javascript__dump.cfm
A friend sent me this earlier. Works for:Internet Explorer 6, Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 1.5, Opera 8, Safari
1.2 (Mac), Firefox (Mac) - all tested, should also work in most other
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Re: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

2006-11-08 Thread Teddy Payne
I have to agree for the most part with Steve. I really do not see this move by Adobe as a choice of weakness because they cannot compete in lateral markets.Whenever code is contributed to Mozilla, this usually indicates a community centric approach to get more involvement in the world community environments to develop more open source solutions to create better products.
Since ActionScript offers a substantial library for Object Oriented programming for rich interfaces, I would foresee the increase in RIA applications.Microsoft has used Flash for their public facing pages in the past. The world's adoption of the Flash Player as the quickest adopted rich media solution shows the acceptance of ActionScript based tools.
Myself and most developers that I know have Firefox installed on their system out of personal choice and acceptance of community supported browsers that have a better history of security and adoption of web standards.
The move seems logical to give Flash to the world internet community as a demonstration of desire to push web interfaces.TeddyOn 11/8/06, 
Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And som more links:http://www.betanews.com/article/Adobe_Donates_Flash_Code_to_Mozilla/1162924245
http://news.google.com/news?q=adobe+donates+flash+scripting+enginehl=enlr=client=safarirls=ensa=Xoi=newsct=titleOn 11/8/06, Steven Ross 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the above response is drawing some pretty large conclusions that aren't based on any substantiated facts. Here is an article concerning the move 
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2168153/adobe-donates-flash-code article content below -- Adobe has donated its ActionScript Virtual Machine code to the Mozilla
 Foundation, kicking off a new open source project dubbed Tamarin. Tamarin will be a component of SpiderMonkey, the core _javascript_ engine for Mozilla's Firefox browser. Adobe's ActionScript offers a scripting language for the company's
 Flash player. Flash technology is best known for its use by online video websites such as Youtube and Google Video. The language is similar to _javascript_ and Microsoft's JScript. Adobe and Mozilla expect that the donation will speed up the creation
 of a standards based scripting language, promote the creation of online applications and increase their performance on Firefox. Scripting languages are at the core of today's Web2.0 applications.
 The Ajax technology that forms the basis of Gmail and Flickr for instance is an acronym for Asynchronous _javascript_ and XML. The Adobe contribution is the largest code donation that Mozilla has
 received in its 3 year history. On 11/7/06, Adam Churvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively
  soon), Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of ColdFusion via the  open source route as well, rather than by trying to dump it on another  company.   But it most likely also signifies that Adobe realizes its Flash-centric
  development model and tools cannot keep pace with Microsoft's XAML-based  offerings.When you compare the two, Flash-based development looks like an  unwieldy cobbled together tinkertoy.And there just isn't enough Adobe
  funding available to change that in any significant way, so they give it up  to the people and let them join in for free. Respectfully,
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   Adobe has donated the Flash scripting engine code to Mozilla. The  announcement was made at the Web 2.0 conference.   Would someone enlighten me on the big picture of this gesture.
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

2006-11-08 Thread Teddy Payne
I would like to vote Sterling for ColdFusion evangelist.Also, I think it is poor tact to comment in a ColdFusion mailing list that ColdFusion is some sort of toy ball that is being passed around.Eeach company that has purchased ColdFusion has pushed the product further. Allaire/Macromedia/Adobe all value the product and that is why it still exists.
Plus, why was ColdFusion even entered into the argument when the article was about ActionScript? There are projects to integrate Flex with PHP, CF and .Net. At Adobe MAX, there were .Net sessions on how to integrate with Adobe product lines.
Adobe is not trying to seperate, there are trying to integrate. I know this for a fact. Teddy On 11/8/06, Sterling Ledet 
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With all due respect, Adam, I think that is the most 
ridiculous comment I've ever heard you make in public. Have you been 
drinking?

If Adobe ever washes its hands of ColdFusion, I hereby 
publicly pledge to buy you and your family dinner at the most expensive 
restaurant you can find in Atlanta. You mention relatively soon, how about we 
bet dinner that it doesn't happen within 3 years. If by Christmas, 2009 
ColdFusion Enterprise is not released as open source and Adobe has clearly not 
washed their hands of it, then you owe me and my family dinner? My offer stands, 
whether or not you accept the bet.

Here's three points I'd like to make.

1) Adobe is not going to wash their hands of 
ColdFusion.Do you think they are going to wash their hands of Acrobat as 
well? Do you know how much money they've been losing on the high-end, Java base 
LiveCycle product linesfor years, yet Bruce Chizen just moved that group 
to brand new, state of the art digs reinvesting even more into that effort. 
Acrobat itself was a money loser for half a decade before it became the most 
lucrative product line in Adobe's portfolio, surpassing PostScript and 
Photoshop. Adobe is used to making long-term investments, and the purchase of 
Macromedia/Allaire/eHelp by them is one of the best things that could have 
happened for tech junkies like me. Even eHelp products are seeing renewed 
investment, which even surprised me a bit. ColdFusion is so core to what Adobe 
is doing that any doubt about it's future is so clearly misdirected as to be 
humorous.

2) Adobe does not kill products, especially not core 
technology like ColdFusion. I even heard rumors that there is relevant code from 
LiveMotion (an early Flash competitor that Adobe extensible killed long ago, for 
those of you who haven't heard of it) that they can now roll into Flash. Adobe 
plays long-term chess games strategically. This was a strategic move. Not one 
made out of desperation. I have no idea why you would position it as such, but 
it is a most absurd deduction.

3) While you are certainly entitled to your opinion that 
Microsoft's XAML-based offerings are somehow competitive with Flex (and I doubt 
most of your peers would agree that Eclipse is a unwieldy cobbled together 
tinkertoy), the facts remain that Microsoft's approach remains one of adopting 
standards in a way that consistently (and many believe, intentionally) breaks 
competing technology platforms. They've repeatedly done so with Flash, you can't 
easily connect to Microsoft WSDL's using standard web service technologies (ever 
try to hook up ColdFusion of FRS to MS-CRM?), and the open sourcedeveloper 
community is a key target audience for Flex. 

In summary, by integrating the core Actionscript classes 
into the core _javascript_ standard, Adobe is making a major play on continuing to 
be the driving force behind standards. It's going to make development for Flex 
easier over the long haul. It was a brilliant move, not a desperate 
one.

Seriously, with no disrespect intended,

Sterling Ledet


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Adam ChurvisSent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 
  10:38 PMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: [ACFUG 
  Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla
  
  Among other things, it means that when the time comes 
  (relatively soon),Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of 
  ColdFusion via the open source route as well, rather than by trying 
  todump it on another company.
  
  But it most likely also signifies that Adobe realizes its 
  Flash-centric development model and toolscannot keep pace with 
  Microsoft's XAML-based offerings. When you compare the two, Flash-based 
  development looks like an unwieldycobbled together tinkertoy. And 
  there just isn't enough Adobe funding available to change that in any 
  significant way, so they give it up to the people and let them join in for 
  free.
  
  
  Respectfully,
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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

2006-11-08 Thread Teddy Payne
Ben Forta keeps a list of who uses CF:http://www.forta.com/cf/using/TeddyOn 11/8/06, Steven Ross
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From Ben Forta:
http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=C7F3A45C-3048-80A9-EF3C7DA746A45DCEOn 11/8/06, Ajas Mohammed 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone,I think Adam's comment is not correctIf Adobe wanted to wash off there hands, then that would have happened long time
 back... Looking at the pace CF is going, I think it will be pretty much liked among the CF community. Plus not to forget the new version code named Scorpio which is due to be released next year. I dont think that CF will end
 up at hands of Open Source anytime. One of the biggest users of CF is Bank of America, the number 1 bank here There would be many more top companies that would be using CF today.. if anyone knows any big companies
 using CF, plz mention it here Ajas Mohammed. On 11/8/06, Sterling Ledet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
  With all due respect, Adam, I think that is the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard you make in public. Have you been drinking?   If Adobe ever washes its hands of ColdFusion, I hereby publicly pledge to
 buy you and your family dinner at the most expensive restaurant you can find in Atlanta. You mention relatively soon, how about we bet dinner that it doesn't happen within 3 years. If by Christmas, 2009 ColdFusion Enterprise
 is not released as open source and Adobe has clearly not washed their hands of it, then you owe me and my family dinner? My offer stands, whether or not you accept the bet.   Here's three points I'd like to make.
   1) Adobe is not going to wash their hands of ColdFusion. Do you think they are going to wash their hands of Acrobat as well? Do you know how much money they've been losing on the high-end, Java base LiveCycle product lines for
 years, yet Bruce Chizen just moved that group to brand new, state of the art digs reinvesting even more into that effort. Acrobat itself was a money loser for half a decade before it became the most lucrative product line in
 Adobe's portfolio, surpassing PostScript and Photoshop. Adobe is used to making long-term investments, and the purchase of Macromedia/Allaire/eHelp by them is one of the best things that could have happened for tech junkies
 like me. Even eHelp products are seeing renewed investment, which even surprised me a bit. ColdFusion is so core to what Adobe is doing that any doubt about it's future is so clearly misdirected as to be humorous.
   2) Adobe does not kill products, especially not core technology like ColdFusion. I even heard rumors that there is relevant code from LiveMotion (an early Flash competitor that Adobe extensible killed long ago, for those
 of you who haven't heard of it) that they can now roll into Flash. Adobe plays long-term chess games strategically. This was a strategic move. Not one made out of desperation. I have no idea why you would position it as
 such, but it is a most absurd deduction.   3) While you are certainly entitled to your opinion that Microsoft's XAML-based offerings are somehow competitive with Flex (and I doubt most of
 your peers would agree that Eclipse is a unwieldy cobbled together tinkertoy), the facts remain that Microsoft's approach remains one of adopting standards in a way that consistently (and many believe,
 intentionally) breaks competing technology platforms. They've repeatedly done so with Flash, you can't easily connect to Microsoft WSDL's using standard web service technologies (ever try to hook up ColdFusion of FRS to
 MS-CRM?), and the open sourcedeveloper community is a key target audience for Flex.   In summary, by integrating the core Actionscript classes into the core _javascript_ standard, Adobe is making a major play on continuing to be the
 driving force behind standards. It's going to make development for Flex easier over the long haul. It was a brilliant move, not a desperate one.   Seriously, with no disrespect intended,
   Sterling Ledet From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Adam Churvis  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:38 PM  To: discussion@acfug.org  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to
 Mozilla Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively soon), Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of ColdFusion via the
 open source route as well, rather than by trying to dump it on another company.   But it most likely also signifies that Adobe realizes its Flash-centric development model and tools cannot keep pace with Microsoft's XAML-based
 offerings.When you compare the two, Flash-based development looks like an unwieldy cobbled together tinkertoy.And there just isn't enough Adobe funding available to change that in any significant way, so they give it up
 to the people and let them join in for free. Respectfully,   Adam Phillip Churvis  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
  

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: Adobe Donating Flash Scripting Engine to Mozilla

2006-11-08 Thread Teddy Payne
This article pretty much sums it up what this provide for Mozilla:http://www.hecker.org/mozilla/adobe-mozilla-and-tamarinTeddy
On 11/8/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Coming back to the Flash scripting engine code.What's the bigpicture with this?What could this do in the Mozilla browser?Shallwe have a way to write AS for SWF files generating on the fly in that
specific browser?I don't know how this is useful to Mozilla.PreciaOn 11/7/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adobe has donated the Flash scripting engine code to Mozilla. The
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Huge! 3000W UPS Available

2006-11-07 Thread Teddy Payne
Robert,I am not sure on the policy for the ACFUG lists, but part of me thinks that soliciting to sell something that service oriented may not be normal behavior. The discussion list is for discussion CF technology topics. The community list would be more appropriate as that list is a more off topic list.
TeddyOn 11/7/06, Robert Reil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






















I am sorry for putting this on the discussion list but don't
know where to get the publicity for it.



I have a MONSTER UPS that I am putting up for sale.



It is a 110VAC Unit that has run my 10 servers, switches,
KVM, Backups etc for about 3 hours in the past.



It was completely factory serviced, and technically upgraded
to current technology in 2003 and is in fine shape. New batteries were
purchased and the others were tested at Batteries plus. This system runs on
30amp service and is in great shape. It is rack mountable. There are 4 units,
the main unit is 7U tall, and the other 3 battery units are 6U tall. Each
battery unit holds 4 Riding lawnmower sized 12VDC batteries. There are also 2
spare batteries included. This system works wonderfully but it is too big for
me, and is taking up too much space.

Pics available on request.

These items are HEAVY! I would guess the whole assembly
would be 200-250 lbs.



It has the same specs as 


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The system on this link is a standup vs rack mount and
it is newer than mine but is just as functional. 



Let me know if you or anyone you know are interested. This
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I am open to any reasonable bids. Call if interested.





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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I stayed at the Woodfin Suites in Rockville:http://www.woodfinsuitehotels.com/rockville/The accommodations are not plush or ornate, but their convenience was nice. They are business suites. I stayed in a king size bed that had a sofa, love seat, kitchenette, refrigerator and cheap wifi. They have a shuttle to the Metro and are three stops from the Bethesda Metro location where the conference was at. They offered grocery shopping while you were away. Their breakfast was not spectacular, but the food was warm and edible.
I would recommend a rental car as the hotel is about a mile from Rockville Pike aka 355.TeddyOn 11/2/06, Precia 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Teddy, where did you stay at the last conference? You set up sounded much better than what the Marriott offered. 


Precia
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CFUNITED-07 is Wed 6/27/06 - Sat 6/30/06 at North Bethesda Marriott, just outside Washington DC (same great hotel as last year!).
http://www.cfunited.com/2007/Maya


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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I agree with Precia. I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping making things easier on travel considerations.

Teddy
On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together. We can make plans for a smooth trip.

Precia
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
Conferences represent good milestones for personal development. What can I achieve prior to CF United? What can I show exhibitors, other developers, potential clients or the conference staff in order to get more visibility?
What can I study to take a certification test?What community involvement can I organize between now and then?These are questions that I have to ask myself after every conference postmortem.
TeddyOn 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SSL doesn't address authentication, authorization, data validation,auditing  logging, configuration management, etc.Lots of otherways to screw up security.-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weakminds. --EinsteinOn Nov 2, 2006, at 11:04 AM, John Mason wrote:
 You've been connecting to one of the webservices via SSL in some of the webmail Flex stuff? I think that would cover most of the security concerns in passing the data between cf and flex. That's
 probably one of the better ways, but I would be curious to know the security around the other possible methods for flex. John From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Precia Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:48 AM To: discussion@acfug.org
 Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] CFUNITED-07 Information How to write secure code using CF and Flex (so a bit of AS 3.0 or MXML maybe mixed in)Considerations while passing data between.
 Precia On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you mean?How to write secure code with Flex?
 -dhs Dean H. Saxe, CISSP,CEH [EMAIL PROTECTED] [T]he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
 This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
 --Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich-Marshall at the Nuremberg Trials On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:02 AM, Precia wrote:  Dean,   Can you morph this with Flex in any way?Flex has become the most
  requested topic at MAX and I have a feeling it will be the same at  the next conference...albeit, CF security is a highly NEEDED topic.   Precia  
  On 11/2/06, Dean H. Saxe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: I'm  hoping to be there this year with a talk (if Michael accepts my  abstract) and possibly a Writing Secure Code: CFMX class.If you're
  interested in a 2 day version of this class, let me know.It may  help my management make the decision to offer it.   -dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his  own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who
  denies another this right makes a slave of himself to his present  opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.  -- Thomas Paine, 1783  
  On Nov 2, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Teddy Payne wrote:I agree with Precia.I am from D.C. and I can assist in helping   making things easier on travel considerations.
 Teddy   On 11/2/06, Precia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   If anyone is going to CF United, lets get together.We can make
   plans for a smooth trip. Precia   On 11/2/06, Maya Tulchinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[ACFUG Discuss] Debbie Gregory

2006-11-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I wanted to say thank you to Debbie Gregory for her presentation last night.

I was sincerely tickled at the visual aids on how strings, lists, arrays and queries were represented.

Also, was I the only person that was impressed by the detail of the examples?

I know she had some troubleshooting issues, but the code examples and the two games were a solid way to engage people in learning development ideas.


Thanks again Debbie and best of wishes in your new adventure in marriage.

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Figured I'd try one more time for some insight on CFGRID

2006-10-25 Thread Teddy Payne
Jeff,CFGrid being editable brings into play the idea of a webservice update. CFGrid is not really a good form container, but more of a interface to fire update, delete and create events. Now these webservices are created from actionscript that call CFCs.
I would recommend http://www.asfusion.com and they have some good examples of how to call webservices from actionscript for flash forms. Flash forms in a hybrid experience that submitting to an action page slowly becomes a secondary processes.
TeddyOn 10/25/06, Jeff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey all,


Was hoping there was someone that had some experience with the CFGRID tag that might give me some insight. I can't seem to make it function correctly.

If I use a Flash format CFGRID in edit mode it passes all emptry strings to my action page. I can get it to work in java mode but I like the look and feel of the Flash mode more.

I can create a Flash from that functions in edit mode but I can't actually get it to submit the edits to the action page. All variables come through as an empty string.

Any insight?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this. 

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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Flex / Cairngorm

2006-10-25 Thread Teddy Payne
Caringorm 2.1 utilizes Flex Data Services and has a future growth of three product offerings:Cairngorm EnterpriseCairngorm ApolloCairngorm MobileIt looks extremely promising a good core framework for Flex. Warning though, it is a heavy OO framework that utilizes multiple design patterns.
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Reading the results of a cfselect form element

2006-10-19 Thread Teddy Payne
If it is a comma delimeted list then:Question 1: How would test to see if this actually is a String? ListLen(variableName) gt 0Question 2: How do I convert this String to an Array? Or is there a better way to process a cfselect element?
ListToArray(variableName)TeddyOn 10/19/06, Leif Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,Sorry for the beginner's question (and my absence from this list and the meetings).I have created a coldfusion file that has form that has a cfselect element. The multiple attribute is set to true.

When processing the form I get what I believe are two UUIDs separated by a comma. A String, I believe.Question 1: How would test to see if this actually is a String?Question 2: How do I convert this String to an Array? Or is there a better way to process a cfselect element?
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Reading the results of a cfselect form element

2006-10-19 Thread Teddy Payne
To really detect for existance of a string you may want to additionally peformcfif IsSimpleValue(variable) and Trim(variable) new This will ensure that the variable is a string, number or a boolean and that the value of the variable is not empty.
TeddyOn 10/19/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
everything in CF is a string! :)1) see above. ;) Really, I don't know how, there is no isString(). 2) checkout listToArray(). 

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=part_cfm.htmIts been sometime since I did this, but I recall using listToArray() then looping. Or you could just use CFLOOP with the list attribute. 

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentationfile=part_cfm.htm
HTH!DKPostScript: caution, developer under mucho stresso churning out next weeks work and sipping coffee!On 10/19/06, 
Leif Wells
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All,
Sorry for the beginner's question (and my absence from this list and the meetings).I have created a coldfusion file that has form that has a cfselect element. The multiple attribute is set to true.


When processing the form I get what I believe are two UUIDs separated by a comma. A String, I believe.Question 1: How would test to see if this actually is a String?Question 2: How do I convert this String to an Array? Or is there a better way to process a cfselect element?
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: PLZ DISREGARD PREV MAIL..1.Query Caching 2.Implementing search Feature

2006-10-16 Thread Teddy Payne
Query caching is one solution to alleviate the speed of the query execution. There is the need to search page by page by a certain amount of records. In an ad hoc solution, I have seen a second query that would perform a query on the original source based upon a start point. The cfouput will typically have a maxrows based upon the query of a query.
For the search criteria form, storing the criteria in a shared scope other always helps. The goal would not to change the originating query in any way otherwise the cache will be reset for a different combination. The search criteria would need to exists in the query of the query. 
Non-adhoc solutions include stored procedures that have increased amounts of complexity to perform conditional queries that can be either dynamically written or programatically built queries.Object Realtional Mappers like Reactor for ColdFusion have a build in pagination scheme that makes that sort of nice. I have not tested Reactor recently for the notation, but I saw the object set for it.
TeddyOn 10/16/06, Charlie Arehart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Are folks reading my note below? Ajas, please clarify if I 
have understood your need correctly. I had just gone through the same dilemma on 
my UGTV site. I had done a similar next/prev link, but if the user had entered 
search criteria, I was challenged because I needed to carry that search criteria 
to the next screen. So this was about more than just simple query caching but 
indeed about carrying the search criteria (from a form value obtained on the 
first result page) to subsequent next/previous pages.

If 
this isn't the challenge you're trying to solve as well, my apologies. But if it 
is, I hope folks will see that there's more to it than just the general issues 
of query caching.

/charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Charlie ArehartSent: Monday, October 16, 2006 
11:13 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: RE: [ACFUG 
Discuss] Re: PLZ DISREGARD PREV MAIL..1.Query Caching  2.Implementing 
search Feature

Ajas, I think you confused people with the subject saying 
please disregard previous email.

As for your challenge, your challenge isn't with caching 
but simplythat you needthe next or previous pages to know that 
you are still workingonthe subset of searched data. Youhave a 
couple of choices. You could pass your search criteria from page to page in the 
query string, or you could store it in a session variable and use some indicator 
on the query string to tell the next/previous page that you mean to use the 
subset of data (which will then pull the search criteria from the session to run 
that in its SQL).

At that point, yes, you may want to use a cached result. 
Since the cache is per the SQL used, if you have the search string in the query 
and you'd previously run that same query within the cachedwithin time, then you 
will benefit from the cache. 

As always, something to be careful with in caching is that 
your underlying data may change as the user is browsing the searched results. 
You need to pick a cachedwithin time that balances the cost of doing repeated 
queries against the cost of getting inaccurate data. Only you can know what's 
best. Some may know that you can flush the query cache, but only all cached 
results in the entire application, not just one, using CFOBJECTCACHE 
Action="" 

BTW, query caching has nothing to do withthe 
save class files option, though yes the max cached queries does indeed 
limit how many cached query results (cachedwithin and cachedafter) you can have 
at one time (across the entire server).

/charlie
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Ajas MohammedSent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:17 
AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: [ACFUG Discuss] Re: PLZ 
DISREGARD PREV MAIL..1.Query Caching  2.Implementing search 
Feature
Good Morning 
everyone, 
Just wondering if anyone has any ideas/suggestions for the 2 questions I had 
asked??? I didnt see any reply which makes me think if it is very simple or if 
its difficult / time consuming. Thanks,Ajas.
On 10/13/06, Ajas 
Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
Hello 
  everyone, I apologize for the earlier mail sent.. I dont know what happened 
  and the incomplete message got 
  sent. 
  I have 2 questions.1) I have a search page which might return 1000's of 
  records for a search/keyword. I have implemented Pagination i.e. showing NEXT / PREVIOUS (10) RECORDS at a time. My 
  problem is that everytime I click on NEXT OR 
  PREVIOUS, the query is getting executed all over again. I dont want the 
  query to be run everytime NEXT/PREVIOUS 
  link is clicked. I have this code to do the caching cfquery 
  datasource=#client.dbname# name=StateRegs cachedwithin=#createTimeSpan 
  (0,2,13,0)#/cfquerycfoutput 
  query=StateRegs group=Reg_Name startrow=#start# maxrows=#end# 
  data shown heretda 
  href="" + disp)#Next 
 

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Issue with return from cfquery

2006-10-03 Thread Teddy Payne
Is this portion a typo wher there exists a space in the #ID#? Also, try #getIDs.ID#.cfoutput query=getIDs  #getIDs.recordcount# --# ID# br
/cfoutputTeddyOn 10/3/06, Jeff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No offense taken, I thought I explained it fairly clearly.In any case, maybe this will help clarify the issue.Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Jeff,
Saying that it worked this morning is not really the information needed to troubleshoot a problem remotely.Plase take no offense by that statement if it sounded harsh.From this thread, I have seen about three people ask if you have opened up the database and the values in the table you are querying has more than 1 value?
Yes, by working I meant that it accessed the table and returned all the rows I requested. Thus, all connections were correct and functioning this morning.Then all of sudden it started returning just 1 record instead of the multiple records it was returning a half-hour earlier.No change to the .cfm file, just a change in the output.
When this app quit working I created a new table called Test with one column called ID and 10 rows with a value of 1-10 for ID.CFQUERY name=getIDs datasource=sysmods 
SELECT IDFROM test/CFQUERYcfoutput query=getIDs#getIDs.recordcount#--#ID#br/cfoutputI had the same issue with this table that I created just to test if there was something I was missing in my other app.I broke it down to 1 extremely simple table with 1 extremely simple query and still only got the 1st record.
This test app all of a sudden started functioning properly as well when I hit refresh on the browser after lunch.So my issue now is, what are possible causes of this behavior?The reason also that it sounds incredulous to most of us is that CF really makes it easy to query a database if you have the correct database connection set up in your CF Administrator.
We are just looking for more information to assist you,TeddyOn 10/3/06, Jeff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes, absolutely positive.I am getting a return, just 1 row instead of 10 and it was working this morning.
Dean H. Saxe  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And are you sure Sysmods is the correct DB? Are you connecting tothe same DB with enterprise manager?
-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH[EMAIL PROTECTED]Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weakminds.
--EinsteinOn Oct 3, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Jeff Howard wrote: Thanks, but still only getting one record returned and a recordcount of 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: Maybe try this: SELECT [id] from test -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
]On Behalf Of Jeff Howard Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:32 PM To: discussion@acfug.org Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Issue with return from cfquery
 Does anyone know what could be causing the following issue: I have a very simple query: SELECT ID FROM test The DB has 1 column named ID and 10 rows numbered 1-10. I built
 this table to try and figure out what is happening to a more complex table that is having the same issue. When I run this in a browser it is only returning the first record. When I copy and paste the query into Enterprise Manager
 and Query Analyzer and it returns all 10 rows. The script I was running when this problem first surface ran fine several times this morning and all of a sudden it quit working. It was returning all records from the table and then I ran it again
 and this problem popped up. I couldn't figure out what was happening so I built a little test table and test script and I'm getting the same problems. This makes me believe it is a CF problem and not a SQL Server problem.
 Any ideas? From what I've gathered since joining a few months ago, someone always knows the answer in this group. Thanks, Jeff Howard Do you Yahoo!?
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Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session?

2006-10-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I am curious as well. The example of not storing being being able to effectively store a value or service object is a limitation to be sure, but even then that can be worked around with a facade.Teddy
On 10/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Just 
out of curiosity, why would you say Don't use the Client 
scope!?

Thanks,

Allen

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy AllenSent: 
  Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:30 AMTo: 
  discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? 
  Session?Don't use the Client scope! There are only a few 
  reasons to use Client scope and I would still think long and hard about it 
  after having maintained an application that was almost purely Client scope for 
  user state. I think you should avoid the client scope unless you have a 
  real and hard requirement that you absolutely can't lose session data in the 
  event of a server failure. I admit, it is kind of nice to still have all of 
  your user sessions when you restart CF and that benefited our applications in 
  some cases. However, I still don't think the benefits for Client scope are not 
  worth it. Sticky sessions are OK in a load balanced situation. You may get 
  some uneven clumping of clients in some cases, but in reality it turns out not 
  to be a big deal. Playing with WDDX and the overheads involved in that and the 
  pain of keeping track of the serialization state of your data just isn't worth 
  it. You can't even serialize a CFC with WDDX, but they will happily 
  live in the session scope. If you do use client scope make sure you abstract 
  it with a good layer around it so that what scope you use is transparent to 
  your application so that you can change it in the future without your 
  application noticing. Look to the Facade design pattern for 
  that.Jeremy
  On 9/27/06, Teddy 
  Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Allen 
made a good point about WDDX. I tend to overlook CFWDDX.
cfwddx action = "" 
input = #session# output=client.foocfdump 
var=#client.foo# can dump your session into foo variable stored into 
the client scope.Your result in the DB would look similar 
to:foo=wddxPacket 
version#='1.0'header/datastruct type#=' 
coldfusion.runtime.MemorySessionScope'var 
name#='cftoken'string88107569/string/varvar 
name#='urltoken'stringCFID#=7101amp;CFTOKEN#=88107569/string/varvar 
name#='cfid'string7101/string/varvar 
name#='sessionid'stringTESTAPP_7101_88107569/string/var/struct/data/wddxPacket# 
TeddyOn 9/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 


  
  Just as an aside - you 
  can still store complex structures in client variables but you'll have to 
  wddx them into a string and then store them into the client 
  variable. Also, if you do this and you have your client variables 
  stored in the database, you'll want to make sure your datasource is 
  enabled to retrieve BLOB's without the 64k limit.
  
  One other thing, if 
  you're running on MX in JRUN configuration (not standalone), you can share 
  the sessions between servers (if I remember right). J2EE has 
  clustering built in and I believe it supports the equivalent of a session 
  state server. 
  
  Allen
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:22 AMTo: discussion@acfug.orgSubject: Re: Re: [ACFUG 
Discuss] Client? Session?In general it seems to me that the rule is that once a user is on 
a server, they are on the same server. Define complex data. 
I potentially see structures and possibly an occasional object in 
the shared scope, but honestly I don't know yet. We don't 
officially have any code written.  mcg 

  
  
Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  09/26/2006 08:04 PM 
  


  
Please 
respond todiscussion@acfug.org

  


  
To
  discussion@acfug.org 

  
cc
  

  
Subject
  Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] 
Client? Session?
  


  
  Yeah it depends on how you want your requests routed... it is 
myunderstanding that if you want the machines to round robin 
eachrequest then you need to do client variables, if you don't care 
andyou just want users to stay on one server th

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session?

2006-10-02 Thread Teddy Payne
That would be a great presentation for people with concerns for failover.TeddyOn 10/2/06, Dean H. Saxe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:At DI I wrote a session facade to allow runtime configuration of
persistence to session, client or both scopes.This allowedflexibility in load balanced/failover environments while allowing thechoice of best performance (session), performance + failover (session client) or failover only (client).Worked like a charm, but it
would require tweaking for your CFCs that need to be persisted.-dhsDean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dissent is the purest form of patriotism.
 --Thomas JeffersonOn Oct 2, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Teddy Payne wrote: Not the CFC reading the client scope Steve, but more of serializing the CFC into the client scope. The facade that I was referring to was a scope facade for the
 session scope.I recently came across a facade pattern from Dave Ross that to me shows serious promise for persistence if you want to create less dependency on the session scope. 
http://www.d-ross.org/index.cfm?objectid=0DF6FA41-EB39- B6C1-5D5D31A245991A2F The article is about Mach-II, but it can seperated and used
 elsewhere.It is the second article in the three article series. Teddy On 10/2/06, Steven Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah same here
 and where is the info that says a CFC can't access the client scope? On 10/2/06, Teddy Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am curious as well.The example of not storing being being
 able to  effectively store a value or service object is a limitation to be sure, but  even then that can be worked around with a facade.   Teddy 
  On 10/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Just out of curiosity, why would you say Don't use the Client
 scope!? Thanks, Allen   -Original Message-   From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Allen   Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:30 AM   To: 
discussion@acfug.org   Subject: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session? Don't use the Client scope! There are only a few reasons to use Client  scope and I would still think long and hard about it after having
 maintained  an application that was almost purely Client scope for user state.I think  you should avoid the client scope unless you have a real and hard  requirement that you absolutely can't lose session data in the
 event of a  server failure. I admit, it is kind of nice to still have all of your user  sessions when you restart CF and that benefited our applications in some  cases. However, I still don't think the benefits for Client scope
 are not  worth it. Sticky sessions are OK in a load balanced situation. You may get  some uneven clumping of clients in some cases, but in reality it turns out  not to be a big deal. Playing with WDDX and the overheads
 involved in that  and the pain of keeping track of the serialization state of your data just  isn't worth it. You can't even serialize a CFC with WDDX, but they will happily
 live in  the session scope. If you do use client scope make sure you abstract it with  a good layer around it so that what scope you use is transparent to your  application so that you can change it in the future without your
 application  noticing. Look to the Facade design pattern for that. Jeremy   On 9/27/06, Teddy Payne  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Allen made a good point about WDDX.I tend to overlook CFWDDX.  cfwddx action = "" input = #session# output=
 client.foo   cfdump var=#client.foo# can dump your session into foo variable  stored into the client scope.   
Your result in the DB would look similar to:foo=wddxPacket version#='1.0'header/datastruct type#='  coldfusion.runtime.MemorySessionScope
'var  name#='cftoken'string88107569/string/varvar  name#='urltoken'stringCFID#=7101amp;CFTOKEN#=88107569/ string/varvar
  name#='cfid'string7101/string/varvar  name#='sessionid'stringTESTAPP_7101_88107569/string/var/ struct/data/wddxPacket#
   Teddy   On 9/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:Just as an aside - you can still store complex structures in client  variables but you'll have to wddx them into a string and then
 store them  into the client variable.Also, if you do this and you have your client  variables stored in the database, you'll want to make sure your datasource  is enabled to retrieve BLOB's without the 64k limit.
 One other thing, if you're running on MX in JRUN configuration (not  standalone), you can share the sessions between servers (if I remember
  right).J2EE has clustering built in and I believe it supports the  equivalent of a session state server. Allen
 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
]On Behalf Of  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:22 AM To: 
discussion@acfug.org Subject: Re: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Client? Session? In general it seems to me tha

Re: [ACFUG Discuss] OT: requesting help regarding my blog

2006-10-02 Thread Teddy Payne
I will take a look Charlie. I was listening to your CF Podcast interview. Good stuff :)TeddyOn 10/2/06, Charlie Arehart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Folks, this is an 
off-topic request. Can I ask some help of those who enjoy reading my blog (or 
would be interested in doing so if they've not yet)? The thing is, I've not had 
any comments for a few days, which is pretty unusual. Someone complained 
Thursday of a problem offering a comment, but I couldn't replicate it, nor could 
he. Still, I've had no more since then and frankly would have expected some for 
a couple of recent entries, like:

-the drop in 
price on FusionDebug (http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/9/29/fusiondebug_discounted_pricing
)
- or my new UGTV 
service (http://carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/10/2/ugtv_is_on_the_air
)

among 
others.

Can I ask anyone who 
may be so inclined to go there and offer any meaningfulcomment they may be 
so inclined to offer: not just a testing or works for me, please. And if you 
go into either of those two and find that there are comments, I'd still ask you 
try. There may be a browser-specific issue that affects some and not others. 
Despite my email being offered on the right side of the screen, perhaps people 
miss it and don't choose to tell me that it fails. Still, I'm looking for just a 
couple, so if you see more than a couple already posted, don't feel compelled to 
post if you really don't care to.

Thanks in 
advance.

/charlie
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] asp version of cfhttp

2006-09-29 Thread Teddy Payne
Ok, I sense a whole people going, huh?Robert, this may not be soemthing the average CF developer or even the above average CF developer doesn't really looks for everyday. We use cfhttp to make our life easy for webservices and referencing remote pages. 
Perhaps those who are familiar with BD .Net may have more insight with comparison code.Sorry Robert,TeddyOn 9/29/06, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone point me to a resource or supply some info if there is an ASP equvilent to cfhttp tag.All I want to do ispost form parameters and get the returned file content and then test it's value.It must be in asp only.
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