Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-07-22 Thread Richard
Some is to be made into stand alone docs and parts of others may be
obsolete. I'll go slowly. :)
To err is human, to really screw up you need a computer.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. I'll look into it tomorrow.


 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.bizwrote:

 Hi Richard,

 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  Now, the GS is pretty much reorganized as Jean outlined.
  Now to begin reviewing the pieces and proofing them for references
  to removed chapters and such.
 
  Any suggestions for where to move the removed chapters and pieces.
  I remember a comment about the wiki?

 I created a folder on http://documentation.libreoffice.org called
 'Obsolete':

 Repository  English Content [en - English]  Documentation  Getting
 Started Guide  Obsolete

 Maybe you could put it all there, and we could ultimately delete it
 when we're sure we don't need it anymore?

 In any case, thank you for this work you've done.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-07-21 Thread Richard
Now, the GS is pretty much reorganized as Jean outlined.
Now to begin reviewing the pieces and proofing them for references
to removed chapters and such.

Any suggestions for where to move the removed chapters and pieces.
I remember a comment about the wiki?

regards,
Richard.


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK. The first doc is up into Drafts.

 Richard.


 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks David.
 Yes, I will post here as well when I upload the first.

 This is a really powerful tool.
 I'm beginning to get my mind around the process.

 Richard.


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 Hi Richard,

 Apologies for the tardy reply. I've upgraded your permissions on
 Alfresco so that you'll have no problem adding new content now.

 Could you maybe just post back and say where you've put it when you've
 done so? Anyway, thanks for this work.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-07-21 Thread David Nelson
Hi Richard,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Now, the GS is pretty much reorganized as Jean outlined.
 Now to begin reviewing the pieces and proofing them for references
 to removed chapters and such.

 Any suggestions for where to move the removed chapters and pieces.
 I remember a comment about the wiki?

I created a folder on http://documentation.libreoffice.org called 'Obsolete':

Repository  English Content [en - English]  Documentation  Getting
Started Guide  Obsolete

Maybe you could put it all there, and we could ultimately delete it
when we're sure we don't need it anymore?

In any case, thank you for this work you've done.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-07-13 Thread David Nelson
Hi Richard,

Apologies for the tardy reply. I've upgraded your permissions on
Alfresco so that you'll have no problem adding new content now.

Could you maybe just post back and say where you've put it when you've
done so? Anyway, thanks for this work.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-07-12 Thread Richard
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Jean,

 Well, I found the files on LO-Alfresco.
 There is validity in RTFM. :)

 I'll remove the one I uploaded on the LO-ODF site, for practice.
 We can move them in as needed, later. But it was good practice.

 Richard.



@David,

Since there was no draft available in Alfresco/LibO/GettingStarted/Draft, I
got 0101GS3-IntroducingLibreOffice, the last published version from
Alfresco/LibO/GettingStarted/Published.

Now, I have reviewed, modified and I'm ready to upload my edited version,
but Add-Content is not an option from the Alfresco/LibO/GettingStarted/Drafts
folder.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10332409/Alfresco-LibreOfficeHomeGettingStarted-UploadDraft-20110712.png
is a picture of my dilemma. I have a file to upload to begin
GettingStarted
revisions for LibO33 but there is no Add Content button to push.

To whom should I send my file for perusal and approve/disapprove?

regards,
Richard.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-07-01 Thread Richard
Hello Jean,

Well, I found the files on LO-Alfresco.
There is validity in RTFM. :)

I'll remove the one I uploaded on the LO-ODF site, for practice.
We can move them in as needed, later. But it was good practice.

Richard.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread Richard
Hello Jean,

I'd like to start work on the Getting Started Guide.
I am using LibO 3.3.3 installed on Debian Squeeze.
Through one change and another, I need the URL for the latest revision,
just to be sure.

regards,
Richard.



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote:

 FYI, this was the author of the chapter Andrew's comment on my
 suggestion when made at ODFAuthors about the OOo book.

 --Jean

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 On 06/29/2011 09:55 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:43 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
  Forgot one item:
 
  6) Remove Chapter 13 (Macros) and make it a stand-alone document.
 
  --Jean
 I agree...

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread Richard
I see the GS33 here for OOo,
http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/gs3/V3_3_revisions

and I suppose that is what needs to be morphed into a GS33 for LibO?
Probably why I didn't find it before. :)

regards.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Jean,

 I'd like to start work on the Getting Started Guide.
 I am using LibO 3.3.3 installed on Debian Squeeze.
 Through one change and another, I need the URL for the latest revision,
 just to be sure.

 regards,
 Richard.



 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote:

 FYI, this was the author of the chapter Andrew's comment on my
 suggestion when made at ODFAuthors about the OOo book.

 --Jean

  Forwarded Message 
 From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org
 Reply-to: and...@pitonyak.org
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 Cc: Authors auth...@documentation.openoffice.org
 Subject: [authors] Re: [odfauthors-discuss] Proposal for major revision
 of Getting Started guide
 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:30:10 -0400


 On 06/29/2011 09:55 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
  On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:43 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
  Forgot one item:
 
  6) Remove Chapter 13 (Macros) and make it a stand-alone document.
 
  --Jean
 I agree...

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 My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
 Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread Richard
Hello David,

Thanks. It will probably make things simpler.
Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt
or whatever will fly. :)

regards,
Richard.



On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  I see the GS33 here for OOo,
 
 http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/gs3/V3_3_revisions
 
  and I suppose that is what needs to be morphed into a GS33 for LibO?
  Probably why I didn't find it before. :)
 
  regards.

 If you're doing stuff for LibreOffice, the English docs are currently
 being handlned via Alfresco (http://alfresco.libreoffice.org /
 http://documentation.libreoffice.org)... while you're not under any
 obligation to use Alfresco, I can create you an account there if you
 like?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread David Nelson
Hi Richard,

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks. It will probably make things simpler.
 Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt
 or whatever will fly. :)

Sure. :-)

I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them OK?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread Richard
Yes, thanks.

Going to get a local copy and start to work using Jean's suggestions.
Once I get that sorted, I'll check back to see where the pieces go.

regards,
Richard.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote:

 Hi Richard,

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks. It will probably make things simpler.
  Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt
  or whatever will fly. :)

 Sure. :-)

 I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them
 OK?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread Jean Weber
You might also look at some of the files in the English  Resources
space, which includes (among other things) 4 draft chapters of the
Contributors' Guide for the LibreOffice Documentation Team:
* Joining the LibreOffice Documentation Team
* Producing LibreOffice User Guides
* Style Guide for LibreOffice User Guides
* Using LibreOffice's Alfresco Website

These documents, and the published versions of the user guides that
have already been rebranded (and where necessary) amended for LibO are
also available on the wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development

If you are going to work on reorganising the Getting Started book, I
suggest putting your changed version into Getting Started  Drafts on
Alfresco, so as not to overwrite the current published version, since
the group has not yet agreed to my proposed changes. BTW, I have some
other notes about things I think should be changed on a less dramatic
scale, if you'd like to have them. You may well have even better ideas
than I do.

--Jean

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 01:30, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, thanks.

 Going to get a local copy and start to work using Jean's suggestions.
 Once I get that sorted, I'll check back to see where the pieces go.

 regards,
 Richard.

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote:

 Hi Richard,

 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks. It will probably make things simpler.
  Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt
  or whatever will fly. :)

 Sure. :-)

 I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them
 OK?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]

2011-06-30 Thread Richard
Thanks Jean,

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might also look at some of the files in the English  Resources
 space, which includes (among other things) 4 draft chapters of the
 Contributors' Guide for the LibreOffice Documentation Team:
 * Joining the LibreOffice Documentation Team
 * Producing LibreOffice User Guides
 * Style Guide for LibreOffice User Guides
 * Using LibreOffice's Alfresco Website


I've been reading from this shelf this afternoon. Including about the Master
Doc.
You guys have certainly made great progress, with usage and the software as
well.


 These documents, and the published versions of the user guides that
 have already been rebranded (and where necessary) amended for LibO are
 also available on the wiki:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development

 If you are going to work on reorganising the Getting Started book, I
 suggest putting your changed version into Getting Started  Drafts on
 Alfresco, so as not to overwrite the current published version, since
 the group has not yet agreed to my proposed changes. BTW, I have some
 other notes about things I think should be changed on a less dramatic
 scale, if you'd like to have them. You may well have even better ideas
 than I do.

 OK. That's a blank slate. A good place for me to start.

I'd be happy to see your ideas on any other changes. I'll keep the notes and
do my best to work them in. I'll ask if it seems necessary. You've been
reading these docs for quite a while and I'm sure you will notice
inconsistencies as well as improvements.

regards,
Richard.


 --Jean

 On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 01:30, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes, thanks.
 
  Going to get a local copy and start to work using Jean's suggestions.
  Once I get that sorted, I'll check back to see where the pieces go.
 
  regards,
  Richard.
 
  On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz
 wrote:
 
  Hi Richard,
 
  On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Thanks. It will probably make things simpler.
   Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt
   or whatever will fly. :)
 
  Sure. :-)
 
  I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get
 them
  OK?
 
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