Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Some is to be made into stand alone docs and parts of others may be obsolete. I'll go slowly. :) To err is human, to really screw up you need a computer. On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I'll look into it tomorrow. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:32 PM, David Nelson li...@traduction.bizwrote: Hi Richard, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Now, the GS is pretty much reorganized as Jean outlined. Now to begin reviewing the pieces and proofing them for references to removed chapters and such. Any suggestions for where to move the removed chapters and pieces. I remember a comment about the wiki? I created a folder on http://documentation.libreoffice.org called 'Obsolete': Repository English Content [en - English] Documentation Getting Started Guide Obsolete Maybe you could put it all there, and we could ultimately delete it when we're sure we don't need it anymore? In any case, thank you for this work you've done. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Now, the GS is pretty much reorganized as Jean outlined. Now to begin reviewing the pieces and proofing them for references to removed chapters and such. Any suggestions for where to move the removed chapters and pieces. I remember a comment about the wiki? regards, Richard. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: OK. The first doc is up into Drafts. Richard. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks David. Yes, I will post here as well when I upload the first. This is a really powerful tool. I'm beginning to get my mind around the process. Richard. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 6:28 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.bizwrote: Hi Richard, Apologies for the tardy reply. I've upgraded your permissions on Alfresco so that you'll have no problem adding new content now. Could you maybe just post back and say where you've put it when you've done so? Anyway, thanks for this work. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Hi Richard, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Now, the GS is pretty much reorganized as Jean outlined. Now to begin reviewing the pieces and proofing them for references to removed chapters and such. Any suggestions for where to move the removed chapters and pieces. I remember a comment about the wiki? I created a folder on http://documentation.libreoffice.org called 'Obsolete': Repository English Content [en - English] Documentation Getting Started Guide Obsolete Maybe you could put it all there, and we could ultimately delete it when we're sure we don't need it anymore? In any case, thank you for this work you've done. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Hi Richard, Apologies for the tardy reply. I've upgraded your permissions on Alfresco so that you'll have no problem adding new content now. Could you maybe just post back and say where you've put it when you've done so? Anyway, thanks for this work. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean, Well, I found the files on LO-Alfresco. There is validity in RTFM. :) I'll remove the one I uploaded on the LO-ODF site, for practice. We can move them in as needed, later. But it was good practice. Richard. @David, Since there was no draft available in Alfresco/LibO/GettingStarted/Draft, I got 0101GS3-IntroducingLibreOffice, the last published version from Alfresco/LibO/GettingStarted/Published. Now, I have reviewed, modified and I'm ready to upload my edited version, but Add-Content is not an option from the Alfresco/LibO/GettingStarted/Drafts folder. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10332409/Alfresco-LibreOfficeHomeGettingStarted-UploadDraft-20110712.png is a picture of my dilemma. I have a file to upload to begin GettingStarted revisions for LibO33 but there is no Add Content button to push. To whom should I send my file for perusal and approve/disapprove? regards, Richard. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Hello Jean, Well, I found the files on LO-Alfresco. There is validity in RTFM. :) I'll remove the one I uploaded on the LO-ODF site, for practice. We can move them in as needed, later. But it was good practice. Richard. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Hello Jean, I'd like to start work on the Getting Started Guide. I am using LibO 3.3.3 installed on Debian Squeeze. Through one change and another, I need the URL for the latest revision, just to be sure. regards, Richard. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: FYI, this was the author of the chapter Andrew's comment on my suggestion when made at ODFAuthors about the OOo book. --Jean Forwarded Message From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org Reply-to: and...@pitonyak.org To: Public discussion list odfauthors-disc...@lists.odfauthors.org Cc: Authors auth...@documentation.openoffice.org Subject: [authors] Re: [odfauthors-discuss] Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:30:10 -0400 On 06/29/2011 09:55 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:43 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Forgot one item: 6) Remove Chapter 13 (Macros) and make it a stand-alone document. --Jean I agree... -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- - To unsubscribe send email to authors-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@documentation.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
I see the GS33 here for OOo, http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/gs3/V3_3_revisions and I suppose that is what needs to be morphed into a GS33 for LibO? Probably why I didn't find it before. :) regards. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jean, I'd like to start work on the Getting Started Guide. I am using LibO 3.3.3 installed on Debian Squeeze. Through one change and another, I need the URL for the latest revision, just to be sure. regards, Richard. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.comwrote: FYI, this was the author of the chapter Andrew's comment on my suggestion when made at ODFAuthors about the OOo book. --Jean Forwarded Message From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org Reply-to: and...@pitonyak.org To: Public discussion list odfauthors-disc...@lists.odfauthors.org Cc: Authors auth...@documentation.openoffice.org Subject: [authors] Re: [odfauthors-discuss] Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 00:30:10 -0400 On 06/29/2011 09:55 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:43 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: Forgot one item: 6) Remove Chapter 13 (Macros) and make it a stand-alone document. --Jean I agree... -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- - To unsubscribe send email to authors-unsubscr...@documentation.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@documentation.openoffice.org with Subject: help -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Hello David, Thanks. It will probably make things simpler. Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt or whatever will fly. :) regards, Richard. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: I see the GS33 here for OOo, http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english/userguide3/gs3/V3_3_revisions and I suppose that is what needs to be morphed into a GS33 for LibO? Probably why I didn't find it before. :) regards. If you're doing stuff for LibreOffice, the English docs are currently being handlned via Alfresco (http://alfresco.libreoffice.org / http://documentation.libreoffice.org)... while you're not under any obligation to use Alfresco, I can create you an account there if you like? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Hi Richard, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. It will probably make things simpler. Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt or whatever will fly. :) Sure. :-) I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them OK? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Yes, thanks. Going to get a local copy and start to work using Jean's suggestions. Once I get that sorted, I'll check back to see where the pieces go. regards, Richard. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Richard, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. It will probably make things simpler. Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt or whatever will fly. :) Sure. :-) I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them OK? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
You might also look at some of the files in the English Resources space, which includes (among other things) 4 draft chapters of the Contributors' Guide for the LibreOffice Documentation Team: * Joining the LibreOffice Documentation Team * Producing LibreOffice User Guides * Style Guide for LibreOffice User Guides * Using LibreOffice's Alfresco Website These documents, and the published versions of the user guides that have already been rebranded (and where necessary) amended for LibO are also available on the wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development If you are going to work on reorganising the Getting Started book, I suggest putting your changed version into Getting Started Drafts on Alfresco, so as not to overwrite the current published version, since the group has not yet agreed to my proposed changes. BTW, I have some other notes about things I think should be changed on a less dramatic scale, if you'd like to have them. You may well have even better ideas than I do. --Jean On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 01:30, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thanks. Going to get a local copy and start to work using Jean's suggestions. Once I get that sorted, I'll check back to see where the pieces go. regards, Richard. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Richard, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. It will probably make things simpler. Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt or whatever will fly. :) Sure. :-) I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them OK? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [Fwd: Proposal for major revision of Getting Started guide]
Thanks Jean, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: You might also look at some of the files in the English Resources space, which includes (among other things) 4 draft chapters of the Contributors' Guide for the LibreOffice Documentation Team: * Joining the LibreOffice Documentation Team * Producing LibreOffice User Guides * Style Guide for LibreOffice User Guides * Using LibreOffice's Alfresco Website I've been reading from this shelf this afternoon. Including about the Master Doc. You guys have certainly made great progress, with usage and the software as well. These documents, and the published versions of the user guides that have already been rebranded (and where necessary) amended for LibO are also available on the wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development If you are going to work on reorganising the Getting Started book, I suggest putting your changed version into Getting Started Drafts on Alfresco, so as not to overwrite the current published version, since the group has not yet agreed to my proposed changes. BTW, I have some other notes about things I think should be changed on a less dramatic scale, if you'd like to have them. You may well have even better ideas than I do. OK. That's a blank slate. A good place for me to start. I'd be happy to see your ideas on any other changes. I'll keep the notes and do my best to work them in. I'll ask if it seems necessary. You've been reading these docs for quite a while and I'm sure you will notice inconsistencies as well as improvements. regards, Richard. --Jean On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 01:30, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, thanks. Going to get a local copy and start to work using Jean's suggestions. Once I get that sorted, I'll check back to see where the pieces go. regards, Richard. On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Nelson li...@traduction.biz wrote: Hi Richard, On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Richard richard.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. It will probably make things simpler. Use login: Richard or RichardH or JRichardH or RHolt or JRHolt or whatever will fly. :) Sure. :-) I created your account and mailed you the credentials... Did you get them OK? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted