Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[jorge Rodríguez]

Ok, I hope to be there tomorrow,

Regards,

Jorge


El 26/09/2017 a las 10:45, Dave escribió:

Hi Dave and all:

I watched the .pdf document, and if you permit and don't bother with
me, ... I want to say that the gray color in the header of the
document isn't alive. I suggest to find another one. As is, it look
like an obituary ( Please don't be angry with me for this expression
)

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

Hi Jorge,

I have no reason to be angry, because you make a good recommendation.
One reason why I favor Leo's proposal over mine is because he has used
a much nicer color gradient for the header.

Try and make it to the meeting tomorrow and we can all discuss it then.

Regards,
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[Dave]

> Hi Dave and all:
> 
> I watched the .pdf document, and if you permit and don't bother with
> me, ... I want to say that the gray color in the header of the
> document isn't alive. I suggest to find another one. As is, it look
> like an obituary ( Please don't be angry with me for this expression
> )
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Rodríguez

Hi Jorge,

I have no reason to be angry, because you make a good recommendation.
One reason why I favor Leo's proposal over mine is because he has used
a much nicer color gradient for the header.

Try and make it to the meeting tomorrow and we can all discuss it then.

Regards,
Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[jorge Rodríguez]

Hi Dave and all:

        I watched the .pdf document, and if you permit and don't bother 
with me, ... I want to say that the gray color in the header of the 
document isn't alive. I suggest to find another one. As is, it look like 
an obituary ( Please don't be angry with me for this expression )


Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El 25/09/2017 a las 13:36, Dave escribió:

On 25.09.2017 18:57, K-J LibreOffice wrote:

Am 25.09.2017 um 16:57 schrieb Dave:

Hi K-J,

On 25.09.2017 13:59, K-J LibreOffice wrote:

Hi Dave,
the document symbol in LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg [1] is
wrong [2].

Wrong? In what way?

See the pdf [3].

[3] https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/b2o6ytw5hPYAZCl

Accepted that I am both blind and stupid, but I still don't see the
issue. Anyone else?


The "LibreOffice Documentation Team" text is jumping between front and

back. (Printing in a pdf and scrolling it.)

I have tried, but cannot replicate your issue under Linux or Windows.

I checked it:
1st page: y=3,12 cm
2nd page: y=3,02 cm

Jeez!  Now we are nit-picking over point something of a centimeter. It's
a darned shame that there is so many with an intense interest in the the
cover decoration and only only a tiny handful of folks actually doing
anything to actively contribute to the content of the guides.

In any case, I much prefer Leo's proposal. Since my unwelcome,
inaccurate proposals are such a screw-up I have deleted them and will
not be making any further attempts to contribute in the future.

Bye
Dave




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[K-J LibreOffice]

Hi Dave,
Am 25.09.2017 um 21:36 schrieb Dave:

[...]

Jeez!  Now we are nit-picking over point something of a centimeter. It's
a darned shame that there is so many with an intense interest in the the
cover decoration and only only a tiny handful of folks actually doing
anything to actively contribute to the content of the guides.

In any case, I much prefer Leo's proposal. Since my unwelcome,
inaccurate proposals are such a screw-up I have deleted them and will
not be making any further attempts to contribute in the future.


I'm sorry that I annoyed you. That wasn't my intention. And maybe it is 
my bad english to not express exactly what I want to say.



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[Olivier Hallot]

Hi Dave, Hi all.

Allow me to suggest that the mismatch in rendering may be consequence of
a screen/pixel calibration or some distortion introduced by video
drivers between different computers.

At this moment I'd like to pick the ideas already on the table and get a
final production of the covers by knowledgeable community members.

Kind regards

Olivier


Em 25/09/2017 16:36, Dave escreveu:
> On 25.09.2017 18:57, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
>> Am 25.09.2017 um 16:57 schrieb Dave:
>>> Hi K-J,
>>>
>>> On 25.09.2017 13:59, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 the document symbol in LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg [1] is
 wrong [2].
>>>
>>> Wrong? In what way?
>>
>> See the pdf [3].
>>
>> [3] https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/b2o6ytw5hPYAZCl
> 
> Accepted that I am both blind and stupid, but I still don't see the
> issue. Anyone else?
> 
>> The "LibreOffice Documentation Team" text is jumping between front and
 back. (Printing in a pdf and scrolling it.)
>>>
>>> I have tried, but cannot replicate your issue under Linux or Windows.
>>
>> I checked it:
>> 1st page: y=3,12 cm
>> 2nd page: y=3,02 cm
> 
> Jeez!  Now we are nit-picking over point something of a centimeter. It's
> a darned shame that there is so many with an intense interest in the the
> cover decoration and only only a tiny handful of folks actually doing
> anything to actively contribute to the content of the guides.
> 
> In any case, I much prefer Leo's proposal. Since my unwelcome,
> inaccurate proposals are such a screw-up I have deleted them and will
> not be making any further attempts to contribute in the future.
> 
> Bye
> Dave
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[Dave]

On 25.09.2017 18:57, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Am 25.09.2017 um 16:57 schrieb Dave:
>> Hi K-J,
>>
>> On 25.09.2017 13:59, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> the document symbol in LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg [1] is
>>> wrong [2].
>>
>> Wrong? In what way?
>
> See the pdf [3].
>
> [3] https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/b2o6ytw5hPYAZCl

Accepted that I am both blind and stupid, but I still don't see the
issue. Anyone else?

> The "LibreOffice Documentation Team" text is jumping between front and
>>> back. (Printing in a pdf and scrolling it.)
>>
>> I have tried, but cannot replicate your issue under Linux or Windows.
>
> I checked it:
> 1st page: y=3,12 cm
> 2nd page: y=3,02 cm

Jeez!  Now we are nit-picking over point something of a centimeter. It's
a darned shame that there is so many with an intense interest in the the
cover decoration and only only a tiny handful of folks actually doing
anything to actively contribute to the content of the guides.

In any case, I much prefer Leo's proposal. Since my unwelcome,
inaccurate proposals are such a screw-up I have deleted them and will
not be making any further attempts to contribute in the future.

Bye
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[K-J LibreOffice]

Am 25.09.2017 um 16:57 schrieb Dave:

Hi K-J,

On 25.09.2017 13:59, K-J LibreOffice wrote:

Hi Dave,
the document symbol in LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg [1] is
wrong [2].


Wrong? In what way?


See the pdf [3].

[3] https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/b2o6ytw5hPYAZCl


The "LibreOffice Documentation Team" text is jumping between front and
back. (Printing in a pdf and scrolling it.)


I have tried, but cannot replicate your issue under Linux or Windows.


I checked it:
1st page: y=3,12 cm
2nd page: y=3,02 cm

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 25.09.2017 13:56, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Am 17.09.2017 um 14:54 schrieb Dave:
>> On 17.09.2017 12:50, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>
>> Hi K-J, Good to see another proposal.
>>
>>> starting with Dave's odg I made my own proposal [1] based on the cover
>>> for Libo 5 docu.
>>
>> I don't know how the strange squared application icons got into the GS5
>> cover, but I propose we stick to the official icons from the LO6 dev
>> start center:
>> http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_App_Icons.png
>
> The "strange" squared application icons are taken from the Breeze icon
> set (new in LibO 5). They are official icons, too.
> It was a decision of the visual identity part of the desgin team last
> time to use it for the cover. And all around voted for a +1.The same
> icon set was used in LibO-cenference presentation template in Brno.

Hi K-J,

At least under Windows the Daily Alpha build [1] the Start Center module
icons are not Breeze. The screen capture [1] is taken from a virgin
installation (ie. no previous install or existing profile) on a Win 7
box that has never had LO (any version) installed.

So it was chosen as something to be used at Brno, that does not make it
official in any way. After Oracle gave away the OOo identity, we worked
hard to establish a LO identity (logos, icons, colors, etc.) and making
changes, just for the sake of change, does nothing to help retain the
identity we now have.

 The Breeze icon set is very ugly and although this is the
(modern?) yuppy Windows 2 block look, I would not wish to see this
inflicted upon our users without offering them a clear choice at the
time of installation. 

In any case the Documentation Team is free to use whichever form of the
official icon sets they wish.

Dave

[1] http://tasit.net/files/LO6_Capture.png
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[Dave]

Hi K-J,

On 25.09.2017 13:59, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> the document symbol in LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg [1] is
> wrong [2].

Wrong? In what way?

>
> The "LibreOffice Documentation Team" text is jumping between front and
> back. (Printing in a pdf and scrolling it.)

I have tried, but cannot replicate your issue under Linux or Windows.

>
> [1]
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/proposed-covers-for-gs6.0/final-cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/at_download/file
> [2]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Logo_resources_for_official_representation

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6 - LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg

[K-J LibreOffice]

Hi Dave,
the document symbol in LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921.odg [1] is wrong 
[2].


The "LibreOffice Documentation Team" text is jumping between front and 
back. (Printing in a pdf and scrolling it.)


[1] 
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/proposed-covers-for-gs6.0/final-cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/at_download/file
[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Logo_resources_for_official_representation





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[K-J LibreOffice]

Hi Dave,
Am 17.09.2017 um 14:54 schrieb Dave:

On 17.09.2017 12:50, K-J LibreOffice wrote:

Hi all,


Hi K-J, Good to see another proposal.


starting with Dave's odg I made my own proposal [1] based on the cover
for Libo 5 docu.


I don't know how the strange squared application icons got into the GS5
cover, but I propose we stick to the official icons from the LO6 dev
start center:
http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_App_Icons.png


The "strange" squared application icons are taken from the Breeze icon 
set (new in LibO 5). They are official icons, too.
It was a decision of the visual identity part of the desgin team last 
time to use it for the cover. And all around voted for a +1.The same 
icon set was used in LibO-cenference presentation template in Brno.



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Leo Moons]

Hello,

I made some minor changes to Dave's proposal, which you will on the 
ODFAuthors site: 
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/proposed-covers-for-gs6.0/cover-from-dave-with-small-changes/view


Best regards

Leo


Op 24-09-17 om 12:41 schreef Dave:

Hi Leo,

The original icons are in the file I sent you.

All the icons used for the different modules were cloned from the SVG
file here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_icons_256.png
Direct link here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg

Best Regards
Dave

On 24.09.2017 11:50, Leo Moons wrote:

Hej Dave,

Could you please provide also the original files for the icons of the
various modules, as the ones for Base and Math are not 100% consistent
with the others.

Many thanks

Best regards

Leo


Op 24-09-17 om 11:30 schreef Leo Moons:

Hello Dave,

I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I
want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my
hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document
LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it
according the ODFAuthors conventions.

Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access
and upload a new version?

Many thanks

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl


Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series


What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:

Hi Olivier, all,
starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for
cover
design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the
way.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers

[2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view

and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view


I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view


Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

Hi Leo,

The original icons are in the file I sent you.

All the icons used for the different modules were cloned from the SVG
file here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_icons_256.png
Direct link here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d4/LibreOffice_Initial_Icons-pre_final.svg

Best Regards
Dave

On 24.09.2017 11:50, Leo Moons wrote:
> Hej Dave,
>
> Could you please provide also the original files for the icons of the
> various modules, as the ones for Base and Math are not 100% consistent
> with the others.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Best regards
>
> Leo
>
>
> Op 24-09-17 om 11:30 schreef Leo Moons:
>> Hello Dave,
>>
>> I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I
>> want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my
>> hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document
>> LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it
>> according the ODFAuthors conventions.
>>
>> Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access
>> and upload a new version?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Leo Moons
>>
>> LibreOffice/nl
>>
>>
>> Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:
>>> On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:
 On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Hello K-J, all
>
> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind regards
> Olivier
>
>
> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
>> Hi Olivier, all,
>> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for
>> cover
>> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the
>> way.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
>>
>> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
 I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
 branding in odf format to:
 https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view

 and in fodg format to:
 https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view


 I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

 Dave
>>> Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
>>> better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:
>>>
>>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Leo Moons]

Hej Dave,

Could you please provide also the original files for the icons of the 
various modules, as the ones for Base and Math are not 100% consistent 
with the others.


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo


Op 24-09-17 om 11:30 schreef Leo Moons:

Hello Dave,

I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I 
want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my 
hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document 
LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it 
according the ODFAuthors conventions.


Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access 
and upload a new version?


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl


Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series 



What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:

Hi Olivier, all,
starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for 
cover

design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers 


[2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view 


and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view 



I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view 



Dave






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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

Hi Leo,

If you are logged into ODF Authors, there's no obvious reason why you
should not be able to download and open the file, because it is just a
normal Draw "odg" file.

I have sent a copy to you in a separate email.

Best Regards
Dave

On 24.09.2017 11:30, Leo Moons wrote:
> Hello Dave,
>
> I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I
> want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my
> hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document
> LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it
> according the ODFAuthors conventions.
>
> Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access
> and upload a new version?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Best regards
>
> Leo Moons
>
> LibreOffice/nl
>
>
> Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:
>> On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:
>>> On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
 Hello K-J, all

 I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series


 What do you think?

 Kind regards
 Olivier


 Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
> Hi Olivier, all,
> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for
> cover
> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
>
> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
>>> I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
>>> branding in odf format to:
>>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
>>>
>>> and in fodg format to:
>>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
>>>
>>>
>>> I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
>>>
>>> Dave
>> Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
>> better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:
>>
>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view
>>
>>
>> Dave
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Leo Moons]

Hello Dave,

I found your proposal on the ODFAuthors site and like it very much. I 
want to make some minor adjustments, but when trying to save it on my 
hard disk, I get following error: Error while saving the document 
LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170921: No access to object. I rename it 
according the ODFAuthors conventions.


Is there anything I can do to solve it, or do you have to give access 
and upload a new version?


Many thanks

Best regards

Leo Moons

LibreOffice/nl


Op 16-09-17 om 16:34 schreef Dave:

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series

What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:

Hi Olivier, all,
starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.

[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
[2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view

I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view

Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[jorge Rodríguez]

Hi all:

        I want to say again that haven't sense to make a great 6 in the 
logo that cover almost all the cubes


Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El 17/09/2017 a las 04:50, K-J LibreOffice escribió:

Hi all,
starting with Dave's odg I made my own proposal [1] based on the cover 
for Libo 5 docu.


Dave's proposal seems to break some branding rules [2]:
- The "LibreOffice" text in the logo must be lined at the bottom with 
the Document symbol.

- no other text in the logo
- "Dont' change the spacing of the elements"

I personnally don't like the green background in the new logo and even 
would not repeat it at the bottom as a fat bar.


[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_1


[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 17.09.2017 17:46, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Am 17.09.2017 um 15:06 schrieb Dave:
>
>> Would you please you make the original odg (svg if you must) file of
>> your proposal available.
>
> It is already on wiki (""Here is the odg"):
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_1
>
>
> And here is the direct link:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Cover_601-k-j1.odg
>
Hi K-J,

Don't know how I missed it previously.

Many Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[K-J LibreOffice]

Hi Dave,
Am 17.09.2017 um 15:06 schrieb Dave:


Would you please you make the original odg (svg if you must) file of
your proposal available.


It is already on wiki (""Here is the odg"):

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_1

And here is the direct link:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Cover_601-k-j1.odg

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 17.09.2017 12:50, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi all,
> starting with Dave's odg I made my own proposal [1] based on the cover
> for Libo 5 docu.
>
> Dave's proposal seems to break some branding rules [2]:
> - The "LibreOffice" text in the logo must be lined at the bottom with
> the Document symbol.
> - no other text in the logo
> - "Dont' change the spacing of the elements"
>
> I personnally don't like the green background in the new logo and even
> would not repeat it at the bottom as a fat bar.
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_1
>
> [2]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices
>
K-J,

Would you please you make the original odg (svg if you must) file of
your proposal available.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 17.09.2017 12:50, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi all,

Hi K-J, Good to see another proposal.

> starting with Dave's odg I made my own proposal [1] based on the cover
> for Libo 5 docu.

I don't know how the strange squared application icons got into the GS5
cover, but I propose we stick to the official icons from the LO6 dev
start center:
http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_App_Icons.png

> Dave's proposal seems to break some branding rules [2]:

True! The original brief was to generate something along the lines of
the new LO6 branding (See Oliver's initial post starting this thread.).
I was trying to conform with background color the official LO6 splash
intro.png image authorized by Heiko Tietze.
http://www.tasit.net/files/intro.png

> - The "LibreOffice" text in the logo must be lined at the bottom with
> the Document symbol.
> - no other text in the logo

Not strictly true, but I am fine with whatever arrangement is chosen.

> - "Dont' change the spacing of the elements"

Spacing was taken directly from the official LO6 branding artwork
authorized by Heiko Tietze.

> I personnally don't like the green background in the new logo and even
> would not repeat it at the bottom as a fat bar.

Agree100%. I would like to stick with the same header and footer
background colors used for previous guide covers.

>
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_1
>
> [2]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices
>
I had started work on creating new background watermark cubes, but the
results were pretty awful. If we must have cubes, I suggest we go with
the ones in your proposal.

I will raise all matters relating to the covers at next Wednesday's docs
meeting, in the hope that we can reach a final agreement/decision.

Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[K-J LibreOffice]

Hi all,
starting with Dave's odg I made my own proposal [1] based on the cover 
for Libo 5 docu.


Dave's proposal seems to break some branding rules [2]:
- The "LibreOffice" text in the logo must be lined at the bottom with 
the Document symbol.

- no other text in the logo
- "Dont' change the spacing of the elements"

I personnally don't like the green background in the new logo and even 
would not repeat it at the bottom as a fat bar.


[1] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts/Design/Front-Guide#Version_1


[2] 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Guidelines_and_Best_Practices


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave Barton]

Martin,

Here is a pdf created from Ilmari's fix odg:
http://tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170916-logofix.pdf

Regards
Dave

On 16.09.2017 17:27, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> Dave,
>
> could you please upload also a pdf, to check the output, because on macOS
> the new odg still has a non-uniformly stretched "LibreOffice" logo text.
>
> Thanks, m.
>
> 2017-09-16 16:34 GMT+02:00 Dave :
>
>> On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:
>>> On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
 Hello K-J, all

 I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#
>> LibreOffice_6.0_series
 What do you think?

 Kind regards
 Olivier


 Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
> Hi Olivier, all,
> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
>
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#
>> Covers
> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
>>> I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
>>> branding in odf format to:
>>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
>> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
>>> and in fodg format to:
>>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
>> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
>>> I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
>>>
>>> Dave
>> Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
>> better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:
>>
>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
>> started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

I created a version of the new file with a uniformly scaled logo: 
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6-0-fixed-logo-proportions/view

I left the symbol alone as it seemed to be scaled OK already.

I took the logo from this file and saved it to its own SVG and imported 
to Dave's ODG: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice-Initial-Artwork-Logo.svg


Regards,
Ilmari

On 16.09.2017 18:27, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

Dave,

could you please upload also a pdf, to check the output, because on 
macOS
the new odg still has a non-uniformly stretched "LibreOffice" logo 
text.


Thanks, m.

2017-09-16 16:34 GMT+02:00 Dave :


On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:
> On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>> Hello K-J, all
>>
>> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
>>
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#
LibreOffice_6.0_series
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
>>> Hi Olivier, all,
>>> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
>>> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#
Covers
>>> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
> I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
> branding in odf format to:
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
> and in fodg format to:
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
>
> I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
>
> Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Dave,

could you please upload also a pdf, to check the output, because on macOS
the new odg still has a non-uniformly stretched "LibreOffice" logo text.

Thanks, m.

2017-09-16 16:34 GMT+02:00 Dave :

> On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:
> > On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> >> Hello K-J, all
> >>
> >> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
> >>
> >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#
> LibreOffice_6.0_series
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >>
> >> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
> >>> Hi Olivier, all,
> >>> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
> >>> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#
> Covers
> >>> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
> > I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
> > branding in odf format to:
> > https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
> > and in fodg format to:
> > https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
> >
> > I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
> >
> > Dave
>
> Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
> better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:
>
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
> started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 13.09.2017 22:15, Dave wrote:
> On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>> Hello K-J, all
>>
>> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
>>
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
>>> Hi Olivier, all,
>>> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
>>> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
>>> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
> I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
> branding in odf format to:
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
> and in fodg format to:
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
>
> I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
>
> Dave

Since nobody was happy with the first proposal, or came forward with a
better alternative/revision, here is a second draft:

https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/cover-proposal-for-gs6.0/view

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[jorge Rodríguez]

Hi:

    As I can see in the logo, the six number is lopsided respect the 
rest of the logo ( Cubes ).


Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez


El 16/09/2017 a las 04:40, Ilmari Lauhakangas escribió:
Yep, the logo and symbol have been resized non-uniformly so the height 
was reduced more than the width.
This is evident in 
http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf and 
http://tasit.net/files/NoStretch.png


Regards,
Ilmari

On 16.09.2017 12:05, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
OK, I just downloaded your Linux/Windows pdf output and opened it and 
the

LibreOffice text in the LibreOffice logo seems stretched outward.

I have uploaded a tif with the tif of your pdf and added a logo from 
wiki (
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoBasic_500px.png) 


under it and you can see that the spacing and probably also the width of
letters in the logo is not the same.

Here is the mashed tif:
http://ooo.siccla.net/gsi/libreoffice/vodnik/slike/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_logo-squeezed.png 



Something is wrong.

Lp, m.

2017-09-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Dave :


Hi Martin

On 15.09.2017 15:10, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> Hi, Dave,
>
> 2017-09-15 13:59 GMT+02:00 Dave :
>
>>> directly made of the posted fodg file
>> Ah! This is the first, last and only time I will ever make anything
>> available in fodg format. I don't see any use for this format and 
I do
>> _*NOT*_ wish anyone to explain it's intended advantages and 
features to

>> me. I regularly create/edit files in odg format and I have no issues
>> with that format.
>> For clarification here is a link to the pdf output from the odg file
>> under Linux and Windows:
>> http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf
>>
>>
> Exactly the same happens with the odg file. So the format is not 
guilty

for
> this.

Agreed! I created another pdf from the fodg file under Linux and it was
identical to the ones created from the odg file, which suggests that 
the

culprit is the OSX version of LO.

> If anyone wants to see how this odg file opens on macOS, send me a
private
> e-mail, so I can send back the pdf or png of the cover screengrab.

I managed to scrape the pdf from your message to my noreply@ address
from the server before it was flushed and it looks nothing like the
Linux/Windows originals.

> Lp, m.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Ilmari Lauhakangas]

Yep, the logo and symbol have been resized non-uniformly so the height 
was reduced more than the width.
This is evident in 
http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf and 
http://tasit.net/files/NoStretch.png


Regards,
Ilmari

On 16.09.2017 12:05, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
OK, I just downloaded your Linux/Windows pdf output and opened it and 
the

LibreOffice text in the LibreOffice logo seems stretched outward.

I have uploaded a tif with the tif of your pdf and added a logo from 
wiki (

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoBasic_500px.png)
under it and you can see that the spacing and probably also the width 
of

letters in the logo is not the same.

Here is the mashed tif:
http://ooo.siccla.net/gsi/libreoffice/vodnik/slike/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_logo-squeezed.png

Something is wrong.

Lp, m.

2017-09-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Dave :


Hi Martin

On 15.09.2017 15:10, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> Hi, Dave,
>
> 2017-09-15 13:59 GMT+02:00 Dave :
>
>>> directly made of the posted fodg file
>> Ah! This is the first, last and only time I will ever make anything
>> available in fodg format. I don't see any use for this format and I do
>> _*NOT*_ wish anyone to explain it's intended advantages and features to
>> me. I regularly create/edit files in odg format and I have no issues
>> with that format.
>> For clarification here is a link to the pdf output from the odg file
>> under Linux and Windows:
>> http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf
>>
>>
> Exactly the same happens with the odg file. So the format is not guilty
for
> this.

Agreed! I created another pdf from the fodg file under Linux and it 
was
identical to the ones created from the odg file, which suggests that 
the

culprit is the OSX version of LO.

> If anyone wants to see how this odg file opens on macOS, send me a
private
> e-mail, so I can send back the pdf or png of the cover screengrab.

I managed to scrape the pdf from your message to my noreply@ address
from the server before it was flushed and it looks nothing like the
Linux/Windows originals.

> Lp, m.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Martin Srebotnjak]

OK, I just downloaded your Linux/Windows pdf output and opened it and the
LibreOffice text in the LibreOffice logo seems stretched outward.

I have uploaded a tif with the tif of your pdf and added a logo from wiki (
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_Initial-Artwork-Logo_ColorLogoBasic_500px.png)
under it and you can see that the spacing and probably also the width of
letters in the logo is not the same.

Here is the mashed tif:
http://ooo.siccla.net/gsi/libreoffice/vodnik/slike/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_logo-squeezed.png

Something is wrong.

Lp, m.

2017-09-15 22:10 GMT+02:00 Dave :

> Hi Martin
>
> On 15.09.2017 15:10, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> > Hi, Dave,
> >
> > 2017-09-15 13:59 GMT+02:00 Dave :
> >
> >>> directly made of the posted fodg file
> >> Ah! This is the first, last and only time I will ever make anything
> >> available in fodg format. I don't see any use for this format and I do
> >> _*NOT*_ wish anyone to explain it's intended advantages and features to
> >> me. I regularly create/edit files in odg format and I have no issues
> >> with that format.
> >> For clarification here is a link to the pdf output from the odg file
> >> under Linux and Windows:
> >> http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf
> >>
> >>
> > Exactly the same happens with the odg file. So the format is not guilty
> for
> > this.
>
> Agreed! I created another pdf from the fodg file under Linux and it was
> identical to the ones created from the odg file, which suggests that the
> culprit is the OSX version of LO.
>
> > If anyone wants to see how this odg file opens on macOS, send me a
> private
> > e-mail, so I can send back the pdf or png of the cover screengrab.
>
> I managed to scrape the pdf from your message to my noreply@ address
> from the server before it was flushed and it looks nothing like the
> Linux/Windows originals.
>
> > Lp, m.
>
> Regards
> Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

Hi Martin

On 15.09.2017 15:10, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> Hi, Dave,
>
> 2017-09-15 13:59 GMT+02:00 Dave :
>
>>> directly made of the posted fodg file
>> Ah! This is the first, last and only time I will ever make anything
>> available in fodg format. I don't see any use for this format and I do
>> _*NOT*_ wish anyone to explain it's intended advantages and features to
>> me. I regularly create/edit files in odg format and I have no issues
>> with that format.
>> For clarification here is a link to the pdf output from the odg file
>> under Linux and Windows:
>> http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf
>>
>>
> Exactly the same happens with the odg file. So the format is not guilty for
> this.

Agreed! I created another pdf from the fodg file under Linux and it was
identical to the ones created from the odg file, which suggests that the
culprit is the OSX version of LO.

> If anyone wants to see how this odg file opens on macOS, send me a private
> e-mail, so I can send back the pdf or png of the cover screengrab.

I managed to scrape the pdf from your message to my noreply@ address
from the server before it was flushed and it looks nothing like the
Linux/Windows originals.

> Lp, m.

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi, Dave,

2017-09-15 13:59 GMT+02:00 Dave :

>
> > directly made of the posted fodg file
>
> Ah! This is the first, last and only time I will ever make anything
> available in fodg format. I don't see any use for this format and I do
> _*NOT*_ wish anyone to explain it's intended advantages and features to
> me. I regularly create/edit files in odg format and I have no issues
> with that format.
> For clarification here is a link to the pdf output from the odg file
> under Linux and Windows:
> http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf
>
>
Exactly the same happens with the odg file. So the format is not guilty for
this.

If anyone wants to see how this odg file opens on macOS, send me a private
e-mail, so I can send back the pdf or png of the cover screengrab.

Lp, m.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

Hi Martin,

On 15.09.2017 12:07, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what is the font used in the covers?
Liberation Sans
> For localization purposes I would need
> it. It seem as if Liberation Sans is used, but on macOS in Draw 5.4 the
> text is too wide and disrupts the intended design as I open it.
I can't speak for any Apple computers, but under Linux and Win XP - 10 I
cannot see any issue.

> In older designs some font was used that did not support wider codepages,
> like unicode, I hope you used one that does (or that a version of that font
> with all necessary codepages exists). Maybe you can upload that font to the
> site?
No, I used the Liberation Sans font that LibreOffice installs, and it
appears that Heiko Tietze used that same font in his official branding
files.

> Also, in the Cover design I propose you align the "LibreOffice
> Documentation Team" test to the left border of the upper "LibreOffice"
> design, now it is centered on the page, but the upper ribbon is actually
> not a full page-width space as the 6 with cubes takes its toll on the right
> side of the page.
Not under Linux or Windows. The alignment is as per previous guides.
> Also, the LibreOffice logo seems streched out horizontally when I open this
> file in Draw, that should probably not be done.
It has _*NOT*_ been stretched and I repeat my previous reply to Oliver's
comment:
"/There is only a uniform size reduction of the header items, as
illustrated here: http://tasit.net/files/NoStretch.png Both of the
header components are copied from Heiko Tietze official branding file
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series
and uniformly reduced in size for a balanced fit within the header area./"
If it has been stretched then we have a serious bug in Draw. As
previously stated:
"/I cannot detect any disproportionate stretching, but if anyone else
can please go ahead and make the required corrections./"

> Another question: now the title of GS is: Getting Started Guide and
> LibreOffice 6 is just a logo setup. Shouldn't this be a part of the title,
> like
> Getting Started With LibreOffice 6.0?
I simply followed what was done for the 3, 4 and 5 editions of the
guide. I will leave it up to the documentation team to decide otherwise.

> I am attaching the pdf
Attachments are removed from posts to this list and if you read my
signature line you will realize your message to the noreply@ address
never reached me.

> directly made of the posted fodg file

Ah! This is the first, last and only time I will ever make anything
available in fodg format. I don't see any use for this format and I do
_*NOT*_ wish anyone to explain it's intended advantages and features to
me. I regularly create/edit files in odg format and I have no issues
with that format.
For clarification here is a link to the pdf output from the odg file
under Linux and Windows:
http://www.tasit.net/files/LO6_GS_Guide_Covers_DCB_20170913.pdf

> - what I get
> on macOS in LO5.4. Is this a Letter/A4 thing? Or OS thing/font rendering
> issue?
The slide/page is A4, the same as all previous guides.

> Thanks, m.
Regards
Dave

> 2017-09-14 7:18 GMT+02:00 Dave :
>
>> On 13.09.2017 22:29, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>>> Em 13/09/2017 17:15, Dave escreveu:
 On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Hello K-J, all
>
> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
>
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#
>> LibreOffice_6.0_series
> What do you think?
>
> Kind regards
> Olivier
>
>
> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
>> Hi Olivier, all,
>> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for
>> cover
>> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#
>> Covers
>> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
 I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
 branding in odf format to:
 https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
>> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
 and in fodg format to:
 https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
>> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
 I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

 Dave

>>> Thanks Dave for the upload. The right direction I think.
>>>
>>> 2 remarks so far:
>>>
>>> Fix the stretching of the logo in the header
>>>
>>> the watermarks (triangles) of the body could be "cubes" instead to
>>> detach from previous releases...
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>> Hi Oliver,
>>
>> A bit puzzled by your stretching remark. There is only a uniform size
>> reduction of the header items, as illustrated here:
>> http://tasit.net/files/NoStretch.png
>> Both of the header components are copied from Heiko Tietze official
>> branding file
>> 

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Martin Srebotnjak]

Hi,

what is the font used in the covers? For localization purposes I would need
it. It seem as if Liberation Sans is used, but on macOS in Draw 5.4 the
text is too wide and disrupts the intended design as I open it.

In older designs some font was used that did not support wider codepages,
like unicode, I hope you used one that does (or that a version of that font
with all necessary codepages exists). Maybe you can upload that font to the
site?

Also, in the Cover design I propose you align the "LibreOffice
Documentation Team" test to the left border of the upper "LibreOffice"
design, now it is centered on the page, but the upper ribbon is actually
not a full page-width space as the 6 with cubes takes its toll on the right
side of the page.

Also, the LibreOffice logo seems streched out horizontally when I open this
file in Draw, that should probably not be done.

Another question: now the title of GS is: Getting Started Guide and
LibreOffice 6 is just a logo setup. Shouldn't this be a part of the title,
like
Getting Started With LibreOffice 6.0?

I am attaching the pdf directly made of the posted fodg file - what I get
on macOS in LO5.4. Is this a Letter/A4 thing? Or OS thing/font rendering
issue?

Thanks, m.

2017-09-14 7:18 GMT+02:00 Dave :

> On 13.09.2017 22:29, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> > Em 13/09/2017 17:15, Dave escreveu:
> >> On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> >>> Hello K-J, all
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#
> LibreOffice_6.0_series
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>> Olivier
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
>  Hi Olivier, all,
>  starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for
> cover
>  design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
> 
>  [1]
>  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#
> Covers
>  [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
> >> I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
> >> branding in odf format to:
> >> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
> >> and in fodg format to:
> >> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
> started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
> >>
> >> I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> > Thanks Dave for the upload. The right direction I think.
> >
> > 2 remarks so far:
> >
> > Fix the stretching of the logo in the header
> >
> > the watermarks (triangles) of the body could be "cubes" instead to
> > detach from previous releases...
> >
> >
> > regards
>
> Hi Oliver,
>
> A bit puzzled by your stretching remark. There is only a uniform size
> reduction of the header items, as illustrated here:
> http://tasit.net/files/NoStretch.png
> Both of the header components are copied from Heiko Tietze official
> branding file
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#
> LibreOffice_6.0_series
> and uniformly reduced in size for a balanced fit within the header area.
> I cannot detect any disproportionate stretching, but if anyone else can
> please go ahead and make the required corrections.
>
> Personally I dislike the cubes and feel that we are progressively moving
> away from the recognized official LO branding and colors for no good
> reason, but that's an issue I just have to live with. Over the next few
> days I will try and find the time to construct cube watermarks to
> replace the triangles.
> How about some pretty blue seagulls inside the cubes? :-D
>
> Best Regards
> Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 13.09.2017 22:29, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Em 13/09/2017 17:15, Dave escreveu:
>> On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>>> Hello K-J, all
>>>
>>> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
 Hi Olivier, all,
 starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
 design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.

 [1]
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
 [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
>> I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
>> branding in odf format to:
>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
>> and in fodg format to:
>> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view
>>
>> I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.
>>
>> Dave
>>
> Thanks Dave for the upload. The right direction I think.
>
> 2 remarks so far:
>
> Fix the stretching of the logo in the header
>
> the watermarks (triangles) of the body could be "cubes" instead to
> detach from previous releases...
>
>
> regards

Hi Oliver,

A bit puzzled by your stretching remark. There is only a uniform size
reduction of the header items, as illustrated here:
http://tasit.net/files/NoStretch.png
Both of the header components are copied from Heiko Tietze official
branding file
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series
and uniformly reduced in size for a balanced fit within the header area.
I cannot detect any disproportionate stretching, but if anyone else can
please go ahead and make the required corrections.

Personally I dislike the cubes and feel that we are progressively moving
away from the recognized official LO branding and colors for no good
reason, but that's an issue I just have to live with. Over the next few
days I will try and find the time to construct cube watermarks to
replace the triangles.
How about some pretty blue seagulls inside the cubes? :-D

Best Regards
Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 13.09.2017 16:05, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Hello K-J, all
> 
> I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Kind regards
> Olivier
> 
> 
> Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
>> Hi Olivier, all,
>> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
>> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
>> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

I have uploaded an initial draft set of GS6.0 covers based on the new
branding in odf format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0/view
and in fodg format to:
https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-6.0/covers-for-gs6.0-1/view

I will be removing the old drafts at tasit.net in the next 24 hours.

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Olivier Hallot]

Hello K-J, all

I'd like to resume this topic. We now have the 6.0 branding done.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#LibreOffice_6.0_series

What do you think?

Kind regards
Olivier


Em 25/07/2017 03:35, K-J LibreOffice escreveu:
> Hi Olivier, all,
> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
> 
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Cover for GS 6

[Dave]

On 25.07.2017 08:35, K-J LibreOffice wrote:
> Hi Olivier, all,
> starting from page [1] I tried to find Dave Barton's proposal for cover
> design [2] but the page isn't available. Can someone show me the way.
> 
> [1]
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/6.0#Covers
> [2] http://www.tasit.net/files/LO

Hi k-j,

The contents of the wiki page that Oliver chose to publish were taken
from a previous discussion document, not from the Documentation Meeting
agreed copy of the final draft I was just about to publish.

The wiki page link is incorrect. I will correct it shortly.

It's doubtful that the initial draft cover design proposed in the
initial discussion document would be of any interest, because visually
it is almost identical to most of our existing guides. The only intended
purpose of the rough draft covers was to illustrate that the covers
could be created using Draw. Not that there is anything wrong with
Inkscape, it's a great program, but the production of files in svg
format is unnecessary for user guide cover production, the odg file
format is more than adequate for this purpose.

If you are interested the file is still at the temporary location:
http://www.tasit.net/files/LO 6 Getting Started Covers.zip

Dave

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