[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
At 05:40 PM 2/13/2001 +1100, Michael Moore wrote: The way CCs are going at the moment I believe there is a wide open niche just begging to be filled. CC fraud may only be 3% world wide but 90% of that 3% is internet fraud The 3% figure came from a report from a credit card company. American Express from their report of 2000 into Credit Cards. Irregardless of that I think that most MMs will agree that cc fraud is or was highly prevalent in our gold economy. This was the prime cause for very few MMs now accepting CCs any more. The issue of cc fraud in total is immaterial to the gold economy. The reported cc fraud is an average, and not addressing specific industries or merchants, i.e., porn, gold, etc. (not Freudian slip linking those two together ;-). Averages are OK for some purposes, but you need to watch the extremes. For example, if you had you head in a freezer and your butt in an oven, on average you would be comfortable. Yes Credit cards CAN be beefed up to be smart cards, even to the point of fingerprints and Iris Prints.But this is a question of economics, How much are the banks prepared to spend at at what point will they spend it to upgrade the security of CCs. And how do we get the iris or fingerprints verified online? IMO, and the opinion of many others, CCs have outlived their usefulness online and another method is sorely needed. Which is why the gold economy needs to be expanded to the uneducated. Banks will not offer a no chargeback service until they can be assured that there can never be a chargeback. They will only offer a system guaranteed to benifit them Sounds reasonable. Why would any company offer a service that wouldn't benefit them? If they did, wouldn't agents accept credit cards? or PayPal? As such I still believe David, that the cost of doing business with credit cards, from a merchant point of view, is increasing and an alternative such as the gold economy offers a more secure transactional medium with less possibility of fraud and a more economical cost basis.. the costs will not reduce for the benefit of the merchant. The merchant HAS to have a transactional medium. The costs will be reduce when it is in the interest of the bank. Obviously I'm a believer. However, we all have an uphill battle here. There are maybe 200,000 people who know about the gold economy, but there are hundreds of millions who don't.Education is very expensive. There has to be a benefit to everybody - the merchant and the consumer. And I still contend that the education issue is not the problem. Rather it is an easier way to fund accounts. Bring merchants millions of users, and they will accept gold. Then again, give consumers more merchants to spend gold and they will become believers. The gold economy cannot be a group of radicals trying to overthrow the monetary system, or the tax structures in one's country. Rather it has to become mainstream to succeed. And there has to be benefits for all. Why has Linux become a major operating system? It's free, open source code, easier to use than Unix (and more powerful than Unix and Windows) and many people using it really hate Microsoft. The merchant, using the gold economy however, is not dependent on bank issued technology or bank facilities to the same degree. The idea of using the gold economy is to move away from the paper currency and back to the gold backed economy. Not necessarily true, unless you are touting a radical view. If you do a focus group (we will be doing four in March and April) or poll merchants, I'm certain that gold-backed funds will not be at the top of their list. Rather it would be secure transactions, speed of payment, less chargebacks, lower fees, easy to use, etc. However, on the consumer side, at least here in the US, there are laws protecting the consumers. So, we have another issue to overcome. Merchants are not interested in globalisation, or how much better for the banks this or that system it. Merchants are only interested in an economical system that is secure and has no or little chargebacks and which is speedy enough to service their customers. Yep. And, as we are all learning, many countries are hindering merchant growth outside one's country. Interesting to note how we don't have agents or MMs in China, India, Germany and Italy. Arguing in favour of the banks will not encourage merchants to use the gold economy as a transactional medium. Arguing in favour of the the gold economy may do But, we have to put a positive spin on it. Ask somebody the question "What comes to mind when I ask you about the gold economy? (or gold)" You will be surprised at the answers. Since I am trying to get SR into the mainstream, whenever I meet with merchants I ask that question. We have a lot of work ahead of us, and, if we do it in a logical, positive, and systematic manner, we will succeed. Each of us should ask
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore
Let me see if I understand this correctly ... "e-gold" WANTs to become an INTERNATIONAL "money" ... right ? "e-gold" WELCOMES international CORPORATIONS to do business using their services ... right ? "e-gold" requires the foreign corporation to GIVE UP its "rights" in order to CONTINUE to use e-gold once their account is set up ... right ? in other words, ALL offshore businesses and individuals MUST comply with U.S. law in order to use e-gold ... right ? "international law" takes a BACK seat ... right ? Next in this train of thought, logically, then would be that ALL e-gold users must also pay TAX to the U.S. ... right ? Now, IF I got a "NO" answer to any of the above then how would YOU (the "NO"er) justify the actions of the e-gold DDU ? I think it's just a matter of time until ALL e-gold users get their notice from the IRS about their upcoming audits ... some folks get real upset if they don't get a piece out of EVERYones pie ... btw .. here's the Costa "latest" . quote: ***CostaGold Update*** Monday, February 12, 2001 Hello Members, We continue to wait for a response from e-gold. We did not expect a reply from them over the weekend, but did expect one today and did not get it. We have had so many members email us and request that we open our doors to spends again. We are being cautious at this time. We need e-gold to acknowledge that they accept us as a corporate entity so we know they will not do this again. They have closed down operations in companies **they** (emphasis MINE,lmd) did not deem legitimate and who were not backed by a corporation such as the one that is our parent company. We must be sure that they accept us as a legitimate business. We know that they will do so, but we must not move forward until this is clearly resolved. Members are also asking about the documents on our site and what they mean. The first document is a notarized certificate that was placed on file Feb. 5th . It states that KFTJ Ltd is a company in good standing as of Feb 5, 2001. It is dated that date because that is when the attorney notarized it. This document is proof that our parent company is currently doing business. The second is a Certificate of Incorporation for our Parent Company, KFTJ Ltd. It was incorporated in May of 1997 and is dated as such. Of course e-gold must ascertain that the company they are dealing with is actually incorporated and is legitimate. This document is proof of that fact. The third is a page from the letter sent to e-gold. To break it down, it simply states that CostaGold is owned by KFTJ Ltd. and there is evidence in the letter including notarized minutes of a KFTJ meeting where the creation of CostaGold took place. Is finishes with a request to have the funds released. It represents clear and official contact with e-gold. This alone should be enough legal notarized evidence to prove that the funds belong to our members and they should be released. We understand that e-gold needs to meet the requirements of due diligence and to verify the legitimacy of these documents. Apparently, that may take a few days. We will hope that requests they made of us last week after receiving these documents were made in haste and they will give due consideration to the evidence they have before them. We will give e-gold reasonable time to respond before we take further action. As emotional as we may be on this issue, we must remain professional and calm. We want to thank members for taking it upon themselves to organize the membership at large. We had not anticipated that there would such an overwhelming response and several of or members wrote letters to e-gold expressing their feeling in a very professional way. We are now in the same position as our members as we anxiously await a positive response from e-gold. We will follow up with continued updates as soon as we have a response from e-gold. Jon Robert end quote . p.s. as one who has already experienced the heavy hand of the DDU I can state that DDU will NOT contact you IF they release your funds .. you will just DISCOVER (for yourself, if you try) one day that they are free .. and DDU NEVER says, "thank you" for your efforts (and expense) to get YOUR mess cleaned up either ... LaMarr M. Dell Sr. E-Gold, a GOOD idea ... ? ?. btw ... some of you feel compelled to tell the rest of us that YOUR decision is that "COSTA IS A SCAM" but that is NOT the issue here, folks ... read it again. The FACT is that "Costa" is an IBC and, as such, has certain "international rights" ... that the U.S. does NOT recognize. The U.S. wants to ELIMINATE ALL LAWS that are in conflict with theirs .. they recognize NO RIGHTS except those THEY approve of .. and e-gold seems to back up those feelings. C'mon, egod, quit flying TWO flags .. pick ONE and "go" with it. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
to everybody - the merchant and the consumer. And I still contend that the education issue is not the problem. Rather it is an easier way to fund accounts. I tend to disagree. I think e-gold can easily be classified as a 'breakthrough technology' which by definition means that people don't get it. If truly valuable, they will 'get it' from education, sheer necessity, or time. jf --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Public Accounts?
At 9:42 PM -0500 2/12/01, CCS wrote: Hey! Can anyone tell me how to make an e-gold account balance public? ... Hi. I can do this for you, if you prove you control the contact email address in the account. I can usually do it pretty fast, but I'd say today expect a one or two day wait, as I've been moving it's traumatic (involves me "painting" and many attempted acts of carpentry, along with dozens of trips to Home Depot). Many thanks for the kind words, but actually (perhaps partly due to the move, and general chaos) I feel I may have dropped the ball on some folks' requests in the past few weeks, so if I'm excessively-slow please email me again at one of my many e-mail addresses and remind me of what I'm supposed to do. Thanks. JMR "e-gold is to 'money' what email is to letters." -- JP May -- Regards, James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP = 0xAE141134 Try a FREE e-gold account: http://www.e-gold.com/e-gold.asp?cid=9 http://www.omnipay.net to buy/sell grams. http://2cw.org/jmr to click. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
At 06:29 AM 2/13/2001 -0800, Jeff Fitzmyers wrote: to everybody - the merchant and the consumer. And I still contend that the education issue is not the problem. Rather it is an easier way to fund accounts. I tend to disagree. I think e-gold can easily be classified as a 'breakthrough technology' which by definition means that people don't get it. If truly valuable, they will 'get it' from education, sheer necessity, or time. Perhaps. But to get into mainstream you need more than education. Let's assume that we have every merchant in the world accepting gold. Why would a consumer want to buy gold at 9-15% to purchase from merchants when they could use their credit card, and, if paid timely, incur no fees? If not paid timely they get a loan. So, the gold economy is wonderful for the merchant, but not so good for the consumer. And I don't think education alone will solve that. Rather we need to identify and emphasize the benefits to all (which is education). George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
George Matyjewicz wrote: . . . Let's assume that we have every merchant in the world accepting gold. Why would a consumer want to buy gold at 9-15% to purchase from merchants when they could use their credit card, and, if paid timely, incur no fees? If not paid timely they get a loan. They can get gold for less (6.5%) at http://www.gold-age.net/ Plus there are others that offer good rates as well, depending upon the amount purchased. Plus, another thing to consider -- you can currently purchase e-gold at premiums ranging from 2.75% to 15% depending upon payment method and amount purchased. On average, the cost (all costs, percentage take, transaction fee, gateway fees, bank fees, etc) to a merchant accepting CC's as payment averages about 6% (in some industries, and for some specific businesses, its as low as 2% and for some it's as high as 20% -- I know, I did my shopping), and he must increase all his prices by at least this amount no matter if the customer pays cash or uses credit card; because it is illegal in most countries for the merchant to do otherwise and merchant CC contracts have this stipulation as well (this was not always the case -- in the fledling years of the CC-industry merchants used to have different prices for different payment methods. This was hurting the growth of the credit card industry, so they lobbied congress in the U.S. and put a stop to it, plus added clauses to their contracts to forbid and did other nasties in other countries to make sure similar policies were enforced). So in reality, if merchant accepts e-gold and does not take CC's as payment, therefore being able to offer lower prices, and a customer uses e-gold (or the others that are springing up) to purchase from this merchant the customer's total cost (including the cost of exchanging fiat currency for e-gold) of the goods or service is really no more than it would have been otherwise, and may often be less. Another benefit of the gold economy is that there's far less hassle and paperwork than with credit cards -- another cost savings. . . . So, the gold economy is wonderful for the merchant, but not so good for the consumer. . . . So actually the gold-economy is great for both the merchant and the consumer. PECB -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gold-age.net -- --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Merchants (was there you go Michael Moore!
At 10:43 AM 2/13/2001 -0500, PECB wrote: George Matyjewicz wrote: . . . Let's assume that we have every merchant in the world accepting gold. Why would a consumer want to buy gold at 9-15% to purchase from merchants when they could use their credit card, and, if paid timely, incur no fees? If not paid timely they get a loan. Plus, another thing to consider -- you can currently purchase e-gold at premiums ranging from 2.75% to 15% depending upon payment method and amount purchased. On average, the cost (all costs, percentage take, transaction fee, gateway fees, bank fees, etc) to a merchant accepting CC's as payment averages about 6% (in some industries, and for some specific businesses, its as low as 2% and for some it's as high as 20% -- I know, I did my shopping), and he must increase all his prices by at least this amount no matter if the customer pays cash or uses credit card; because it is illegal in most countries for the merchant to do otherwise and merchant CC contracts have this stipulation as well (this was not always the case -- in the fledling years of the CC-industry merchants used to have different prices for different payment methods. This was hurting the growth of the credit card industry, so they lobbied congress in the U.S. and put a stop to it, plus added clauses to their contracts to forbid and did other nasties in other countries to make sure similar policies were enforced). So in reality, if merchant accepts e-gold and does not take CC's as payment, therefore being able to offer lower prices, and a customer uses e-gold (or the others that are springing up) to purchase from this merchant the customer's total cost (including the cost of exchanging fiat currency for e-gold) of the goods or service is really no more than it would have been otherwise, and may often be less. Dreamer ;-). In theory that is true. In reality it's a way for them to pocket more profit. But yes, if sold correctly, it is a way for the merchant to help offset the costs to a consumer. Another benefit of the gold economy is that there's far less hassle and paperwork than with credit cards -- another cost savings. That's an intangible benefit, and can't be figured into the equation. You still need people to shuffle other papers, so you can't reduce costs. I don't argue the benefits to the merchant. They are wonderful. The merchant is not the problem. It's the consumer who must pay higher fees to join the club. . . . So, the gold economy is wonderful for the merchant, but not so good for the consumer. . . . So actually the gold-economy is great for both the merchant and the consumer. How do you figure? Let use some hypotheticals. You're a merchant selling products where the margins are already very low. You take credit cards and pay 2.5% Now you are going to take gold, where you may pay 1.75%. I want to buy merchandise from you. Let's say I buy gold for the lowest you state above 2.75%. Are you going to give me an additional 2.75% discount when you are only saving 1/2%? Yes, I understand the non-reversible, no chargeback, yada, yada,yada. But, I also know the mentality of retailers. It's a tough sell. I should explain that I have been involved with retailing most of my career (which spans too many decades ;-). I have consulted for major top 10 retailers as well as mom pop stores. And I have been writing a column in one of the top retail magazines for six years. While I understand that I don't know everything, I do know that retailers are a tough bunch to convince of change. Look how long it took EDI to become a reality in industries other than food? And look at all those B2B hubs out there who died because they thought they were going to make the retailers job easier. Perhaps we are looking in the wrong areas. Maybe we need the gold economy to be brought into the education arena, and teach folks early. But, this kind of discussion is great, because it helps us understand the issues, and may help us all determine what it will take to implement change. George. __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] fine SCI application
Please see the e-gold SCI at www.taig.org/ for a fine example of this great application.. ..and, if you're opposed to biometrics, fingerprinting, and SS nos. for driver's licenses, and other nefarious statist agendas, you might take a second and read the site and spend a little for the good fight that www.taig.org/ is waging for all of us (even Angela can appreciate this!). See my modest, but growing e-gold directory at: www.members.tripod.com/~lowell_potter/egodir best, .. forrest --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Merchants (was there you go Michael Moore!
How do you figure? Let use some hypotheticals. You're a merchant selling products where the margins are already very low. You take credit cards and pay 2.5% Now you are going to take gold, where you may pay 1.75%. I don't understand this. The merchant accepting e-gold can get a premium for his e-gold, of up to 2%, from several places. How does he pay 1.75%. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] e-gold in circulation
Despite continued growth in the number of existing accounts, the e-gold in circulation and number of funded accounts statistics have remained virtually unchanged for weeks... So, ...no MM's have inexchanged, no account holders have reedemed, no accounts have been funded? This seems quite odd to me. Can someone offer a plausible explaination? forrest --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold in circulation
This seems quite odd to me. Can someone offer a plausible explaination? The e-gold is being recycled. Typically, Omnipay handles most OutExchanges, where they buy e-gold from their customers, which goes into their e-gold account and does not affect circulation. Then they turn around and resell it, moving it back from their account to their buying customers' accounts, which does not affect circulation. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Site Tools SR debit card
Guys, I need to add a poll to my site... could some kind person direct me to a poll site? Also, a reminder to all to apply for your SR debit card. Click on the link at my site. Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Fax; +1(312)777-4270 Want a debit card linked to your e-gold account? Apply at my site! https://www.standardreserve.com/acct/instant_anywhere_application.asp?CID=10 https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=103346 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thank you
I want to thank James Ray, also! Thanks Jim!! We wanted to thank Mr. James Ray from e-gold. We received wonderful customer service from him. Thank you. George Freeman WiseAssets --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thank you
I want to thank all those who thanked Jim Ray. Thanks JP! Thanks George Freeman! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thank you
And I want to thank Craig for thanking the guys who thanked Jim Ray... Thanks Craig, and tanks Jim! Sidd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of GoldDirectory.com Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2001 11:52 To: e-gold Discussion Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Thank you I want to thank all those who thanked Jim Ray. Thanks JP! Thanks George Freeman! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Advertising (was The issue that is holding e-gold commerce back.
At 09:38 PM 2/10/2001 -0500, Bob wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm talking about THE ABILITY OF EGOLD-USING COMMERCIAL ENTERPIRES, TO ADVERTISE TO THE EGOLD COMMUNITY. We have no way other than hit or miss. You're absolutely right, JP. One of the most important reasons for advertising is simply to let people know that you exist, or what you sell, or what a current special is. It's a means of communicating. Not in my book (or in Sergio Zyman's book - "End of Marketing As We Knew It"). The main reason to advertise is to sell products! Marketing or PR may be a way of communication. For those of us in the US, do you remember the Coca Cola ads around the Super Bowl a couple of years ago where Mean Joe Green was going in to the lockers and a youngster tried talking to him, and finally got his attention with a Coke? The ad won awards, is one of the best known ads on TV, yada, yada, yada. Yet Zyman (who was CMO at Coca Cola at the time) pulled the ad very quickly. Why? "Because it didn't bring more customers into the stores." Advertising needs to be consistent, timely and focused. That story is not really relevant George - sure, some ads work and some don't. (Have you ever met Sergio, BTW?) However advertising, generally speaking, certainly works. That payment page is the choke point. The funnel. http://www.bananagold.com/howitshouldbe.gif Man, would that be valuable to have a banner there for a while, every now and then. 68,459 funded accounts divided by 9111 spends/day equals about 8 days to be exposed to some large percentage of the spenders. You're right JP. Advertising is commercial grease, oil, silicon spray to commerce. Banner ads are the least effective way to advertise. The return is less than 1/2 of 1% return. Where do you get that figiure from and what does it mean? Are you talking ROI, % retainment or what? I have run many ad banner campaigns for different entities and clients, and some work some don't. (No different from TV ads, really.) Which is why ad companies like iVillage, Yahoo and others are suffering and looking for new ways to generate revenue. Banner ads are supposedly good for generating brand awareness, but I haven't seen any definitive facts on that. Advertising is definitely needed, but you need to use effective advertising, which is an art in itself. Well whatever but I want you, George, or anyone, to state in English the following: How do I put a message in front of people who actually use e-gold. Now, so far, I have thought of two ways: (i) if one could get the complete list of all the email addresses of all e-gold account users who make a spend more than once per month (that would rock) or (ii) by putting a message on the spend confirm page in the egold spend mechanism. I am absolutely wanting to know any OTHER WAY of reaching people who actually use e-gold. Actually, i'm offering a 5 gram bounty RIGHT NOW to anyone who can state in English without waffling any other method for reaching people who actually use e-gold. I'd be very happy to send on the 5 grams! George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: [GoldBarter] Contest results
that;'s absolutely marvellous! thanks! Hello all, JPM sure has some great ideas! His idea also created paths we haven't seen before. Thus, he wins the contest. Congratulations JP! Tristan Petersen GoldBarter.com ^^ can't wait to see that!! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thank you
Thank you for all the thank you's that you thanked with during the process of thanking everyman and his dog for thanking the thankers that thanked everyone. Thanks chuck = Original Message From "Sidd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] = And I want to thank Craig for thanking the guys who thanked Jim Ray... Thanks Craig, and tanks Jim! Sidd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of GoldDirectory.com Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2001 11:52 To: e-gold Discussion Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Thank you I want to thank all those who thanked Jim Ray. Thanks JP! Thanks George Freeman! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Powered by http://www.telstra.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Site Tools SR debit card
At 10:33 PM 2/13/2001 +, Graham Kelly wrote: Guys, I need to add a poll to my site... could some kind person direct me to a poll site? http://www.misterpoll.com/ Free poll George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Advertising (was The issue that is holding e-gold commerce back.
At 09:54 AM 2/14/2001 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of us in the US, do you remember the Coca Cola ads around the Super Bowl a couple of years ago where Mean Joe Green was going in to the lockers and a youngster tried talking to him, and finally got his attention with a Coke? The ad won awards, is one of the best known ads on TV, yada, yada, yada. Yet Zyman (who was CMO at Coca Cola at the time) pulled the ad very quickly. Why? "Because it didn't bring more customers into the stores." Advertising needs to be consistent, timely and focused. That story is not really relevant George - sure, some ads work and some don't. Sure it is. Doesn't matter how good the ad appeals to customers or how many awards it gets, the important thing is how much business did it bring in. (Have you ever met Sergio, BTW?) Sure did. Helluva nice guy. However advertising, generally speaking, certainly works. Absolutely. I always say there is no such thing as bad advertising. Of course, some is better than others. And you have to spend your money wisely. George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] how to reach egold users
Actually, i'm offering a 5 gram bounty RIGHT NOW to anyone who can state in English without waffling any other method for reaching people who actually use e-gold. I'd be very happy to send on the 5 grams! Yesthis discussion board. And many others that e-gold users use. You can find out which ones by subscribing to them and reading the contents. Chuck, it's a good idea, but unfortunately this discussion board, and all the others, reach only a tiny fraction of e-gold users. (I have tried that method extensively, for a couple of different e-gold enterprises, and you only reach a tiny fraction of users.) Indeed there are a number of e-gold "magazine" sites around (like bearerinstruments.com) but again, as yet, they reach only a small fraction of users (still a good thing, a great thing, but still only a small fraction) You can send the 5 grams to a/c 221507 Chuck --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] free banners now
PS I forgot to mention my account #102499, but you would already have access to this from my purchases at bananagold.com. I can't look at data like that! Privacy is important to customers! :) At 04:54 PM 2/13/01, you wrote: Actually, i'm offering a 5 gram bounty RIGHT NOW to anyone who can state in English without waffling any other method for reaching people who actually use e-gold. I'd be very happy to send on the 5 grams! How about the e-gold list? You reached me through it :) Right on Joe! In fact, the ONLY WAY bananagold.com (for instance) has reached ANYONE, is via this list. But, we can find out how many people are on this list - and it's a tiny fraction of the universe of prospects one needs to reach --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: how to reach egold users
At 11:22 AM 2/14/2001 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, i'm offering a 5 gram bounty RIGHT NOW to anyone who can state in English without waffling any other method for reaching people who actually use e-gold. I'd be very happy to send on the 5 grams! Yesthis discussion board. And many others that e-gold users use. You can find out which ones by subscribing to them and reading the contents. Chuck, it's a good idea, but unfortunately this discussion board, and all the others, reach only a tiny fraction of e-gold users. The Gold Economy http://www.goldeconomy.com probably reaches more than any others. AOL contacted Elwyn recently asking for permission to host the site as a mirror on AOL. It seems the amount of traffic coming from AOL was so high that they wanted to keep them behind the "great wall of AOL." They started by sending out their little spider every twenty minutes. Their calculations were 200,000 unique pageviews a day. The reason for so much activity? A new article on the gold economy every day. George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] A really nice card!
Hey, I just received a card... on the front was written "Jesus loves you..." with a big yellow smiley face... when you open the card, it says" EVERYONE else thinks you're a DICKHEAD!" Nice... Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Fax; +1(312)777-4270 Want a debit card linked to your e-gold account? Apply at my site! https://www.standardreserve.com/acct/instant_anywhere_application.asp?CID=10 https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=103346 --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Fw: ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS FOR ONLY$29.95 FLAT!
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[e-gold-list] Re: how to reach egold users
The Gold Economy http://www.goldeconomy.com probably reaches more than any others. Great! AOL contacted Elwyn recently asking for permission to host the site as a mirror on AOL. It seems the amount of traffic coming from AOL was so high that they wanted to keep them behind the "great wall of AOL." They started by sending out their little spider every twenty minutes. Their calculations were 200,000 unique pageviews a day. That is absolutely astounding, George! You could easily make USD 1/4 million per year from banners with that sort of readership. Double click will immediately, this afternoon, accept you as one of their core sites! Awesome... The reason for so much activity? A new article on the gold economy every day. George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
George Matyjewicz wrote: Bring merchants millions of users, and they will accept gold. When PayPal hit a million accounts, that nice, round, head turning number got businesses to check out PayPal's growth rates and extrapolate into the future. The rest is history, already. If e-gold's current various growth rates continue, it's a matter of time when some number developes that turns businesses' heads. Great enterprises (PayPal is not one of them, I believe) take time, persistence and determination. And I see a lot of persistence and determination out there. The gold economy cannot be a group of radicals trying to overthrow the monetary system, or the tax structures in one's country. George, if it wasn't for radicals, you probably would find yourself today still throwing dung balls from inside a cave at a lion (thank you Lizard). The founding fathers of the US where radicals for reasons you mentioned above and look at what they (and others) produced (well for a while). Henry Ford was a radical. Thomas Edison was a radical. e-gold *is* radical. There in lies part of it's greatness. I consider Douglas Jackson to be a radical. And the others that have been pushing hard to help it along for a number of years. I don't understand how the huge potential of e-gold and e-gold backed money can be substantially understood without a decent understanding of the nature of government, and some grasp of economics, human nature and history. And, importantly, that history repeats it's self, roughly. Not to worry George. As time goes by, radicals should become a smaller and smaller percentage of people using e-gold and e-gold backed money. This will be a good thing. You might not get this one, but, government, ironically, should end up being the biggest booster of all at some point. I myself am banking on it. Rather it has to become mainstream to succeed. And there has to be benefits for all. Why has Linux become a major operating system? Partly because some X radical(s) thought up the open source concept. :) It's free, open source code, easier to use than Unix (and more powerful than Unix and Windows) and many people using it really hate Microsoft. The merchant, using the gold economy however, is not dependent on bank issued technology or bank facilities to the same degree. The idea of using the gold economy is to move away from the paper currency and back to the gold backed economy. Not necessarily true, unless you are touting a radical view. Huh? If you do a focus group (we will be doing four in March and April) or poll merchants, I'm certain that gold-backed funds will not be at the top of their list. If you did a focus group in the late seventies to early eighties, You should have found the opposite. Keep it up. I'm sure you'll find the opposite at some point. There's really big trends in place, in favor of e-gold. Rather it would be secure transactions, speed of payment, less chargebacks, lower fees, easy to use, etc. Those are all positives but there are more. At 10:43 AM 2/13/2001 -0500, PECB wrote: George Matyjewicz wrote: . . . Let's assume that we have every merchant in the world accepting gold. Why would a consumer want to buy gold at 9-15% Ok, let's assume that. What you would probably find is that consumers buy virtually *no* gold. Get it? Bob --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: there you go Michael Moore!
I consider Douglas Jackson to be a radical. And the others that have been pushing hard to help it along for a number of years. Yeah, you don't know what that radical is going to do... :) He's a genius! I don't understand how the huge potential of e-gold and e-gold backed money can be substantially understood without a decent understanding of the nature of government, and some grasp of economics, human nature and history. And, importantly, that history repeats it's self, roughly. In history, whenever people have been given a chance to trade gold, or any other type of money; they have chosen gold, and they will this time. Most people don't care which currency they use, but those who do care, care a great deal, and like a snowball rolling down a mountain, the avalanche created will change history. Whatever e-gold is now, it will not be the same thing next year. It's character will change; the people using it will change, as will the motivations behind those using it, until those using it become more a part of the mainstream. There doesn't need to be a 'reason' for people to buy e-gold -- they simply will, because those who care about it will purchase it at any price and create their own economy in which others will want to participate, slowing at first, but more decisively as time goes by. Bob, I believe I'm agreeing with you. Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
