date:20160605




On 6/5/2016 5:37 PM, Ian - Ham wrote:

One new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other
logger is the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it
is being input into the contest logger.


Also available in DXLab Suite (N1MM+/DXLab bridge).  The one thing I can
say is that DXLab Suite does not cause systems with limited power to
bog like HRD can do.  DXLab also provides seamless control of multiple
rigs (up to four transceivers) with built-in (automatic) switching of
sound cards, CW, FSK and PTT outputs based on the active transceiver.

Of course, DXLab Suite (DXKeeper) also supports VUCC and all of the
newer VHF digital modes.  New modes can be added by the user as needed.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/5/2016 5:37 PM, Ian - Ham wrote:

I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' worth.
In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and evangelist for Ham
Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest.

HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list
(including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). In addition to
rig control, logging (which provides at-a-glance worked/confirmed info in
the cluster window), and digi modes, HRD also provides satellite tracking
and rotor control, all in one suite of tools. Awards tracking is superb.
And, HRD allows the use of MariaDB (a variant of MySQL) as the log database,
instead of just using Access (Access is the default data store, but it can
be converted very easily, following the video on HRD's YouTube channel). One
new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is
the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input
into the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to
set, and the HRD logger must be running in the background during the
contest. This eliminates the step of exporting the contest log to an ADIF
and then importing it into HRD. I admit my bias, but feel HRD is well worth
the license fee and is among the best all-in-one suites available.

Thanks and 73,

--Ian
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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Jim Miller

There's a very nice bridge for N1MM+ to DXKeeper which I use for 6M
activity when it's hoppin'. I wrote a simple UDC for it which captures name
and grid.

Works great.

Plus the bridge now supports edits so if you edit your N1MM+ log it will be
reflected in DXK.

jim ab3cv

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

> On Sun,6/5/2016 9:22 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
>
>> Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?
>> My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
>> No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX
>> QSL-SENT
>> Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"
>>
>
> Sure. DXKeeper may be good enough for slow VHF contest activity, but N1MM
> Plus is far better with things are popping (i.e., when the band is open for
> double-hop and you've got to finish the Q fast and move on to the next
> station). N1MM Plus does nothing for QSL or awards, so you want DXKeeper
> for that. See earlier posts in this thread for that.
>
> The bad news is that it could be difficult to export your Excel data to
> any ham logging program, but it's worth poking around the internet for
> someone who has done it.
>
> BTW -- Cabrillo logs have been the standard for contests for many years.
> While some contests still accept other formats or paper logs, the trend is
> to reject them because  volunteers have gotten tired of doing what the
> submitter didn't want to do -- enter it by hand, one QSO at a time, into
> Cabrillo. :)
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons

2016-06-05 Thread Bill

Consider a control program with a Windows 10 touch screen that has excellent
resolution and can be read outdoors, like the Windows surface book or the
pro series.   Excellent, bright displays, decent battery life.

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer,
Edward
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 6:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons

Touchscreens versus physical buttons and knobs aren¹t the only choices.
Avionics manufacturers long ago went to so-called soft keys - physical
buttons, and knobs, whose functions change with the screen context and which
are labelled on the adjacent edge of each screen.  The versatility is
remarkable, and the screen never gets greasy from the pilot¹s lunch - just
the buttons do.  I haven¹t flown for a few years, since losing my medical;
but that¹s how the early glass cockpits looked in my last panel.
It wouldn¹t be a novel idea in radios, including Elecraft  the P3, for
example, has a simple version in its row of programmable keys.  As to
upgradability, a change in F/W that assigns a new function to a knob or key
would come with a matching F/W -based change to the legend on the adjacent
part of the affected screen.  Simple.  No stick-on labels required - just a
well-designed non-touch-sensitive LCD screen.

I do agree with the point about ops with impaired vision.  Soft keys might
have an advantage over touchscreens there as well, though it may be that
proximity-triggered annunciators would be superior to both.

Ted, KN1CBR

>
>--
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:27:31 -0400
>From: Buddy Brannan 
>To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" ,Elecraft
>   Reflector Reflector 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
>Message-ID: 
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can 
>actually use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of 
>spoken interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to 
>look for a new hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with 
>the aging ham population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with 
>said aging population, guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, 
>too. Sounds like a great idea to me.
>
>--
>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>Phone: 814-860-3194
>Mobile: 814-431-0962
>Email: bu...@brannan.name
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
>>upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
>>on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally
released.
>> 
>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
>>flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>> 
>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
>>really time to lighten up, folks.
>> 
>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
>>"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
>>firmware grows to need them.
>> 
>>

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread John Pitz

Thus is born the KXi


On Sun, 2016-06-05 at 11:48 -0700, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Good discussion, Tony.
> 
> Re "If my fantasy radio was developed it would be 
> quantum based system that would allow you call 
> through other dimensions over vast distances with 
> out any propagation delay." I'd settle for an 
> advancement which let me work you from California 
> running 5 Watts to a one meter indoor antenna and 
> no counterpoise -- during the low part of the 
> sunspot cycle :-)
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/5/16 11:28 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I thought I might put my oar in on this; New 
> > products need a market is true and trying to 
> > second guess it is another story.
> >
> > How would I go about developing a new product? I 
> > believe that we need to see a gap in the market 
> > since we are not going to create a new market 
> > like texting. The size of the addressable 
> > customer base needs to be large enough to 
> > support the development cost. One thing that 
> > many people see as improvement is the touch 
> > screen, while I support development in this area 
> > it is not core functionality to our hobby (can I 
> > see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and 
> > K-POD are good examples of pushing the new 
> > product while building on current development ( 
> > no I dont have an inside view of the products 
> > but it stands to reason). Who was it that said 
> > there are many Japanese VHF txcvrs? The latest 
> > trend is into the digital coms so something in 
> > that area maybe the next thing but I would 
> > recommend an open source approach to the digital 
> > coms to get others helping with the future 
> > development of repeater type multi channel things.
> > I would personally be more interested in an 
> > integrated larger HF amp or even a combiner to 
> > use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output.
> > If my fantasy radio was developed it would be 
> > quantum based system that would allow you call 
> > through other dimensions over vast distances 
> > with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few 
> > thousand years :-)
> >
> > 73 de Tony G6GLP
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 utility for mac?

2016-06-05 Thread Dan Presley

Thanks Phil-obviously it's working fine as is so no worries. The only other  
thing I noticed is that when using cw there's something between a click and a 
small thump in the headphones at the start of each element. I seem to recall 
this was an issue in the KX3 and there was a simple adjustment in the menu, but 
can't recall it at the moment. Not audible on the speaker, and same with 
different phones.Ring any bells with anyone?
Dan Presley  N7CQR
n7...@arrl.net

On Jun 5, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Not yet. But my two Macs are dual-boot with Win 10 and BootCamp.
> 
> I expect we'll have a Mac utility "any day now" :-)
> 
> Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/5/16 1:51 PM, Dan Presley wrote:
>> Does anyone know if the KX2 utility program is available for Macs? I only 
>> see a windows version on the software page. Alternatively-can I use the KX3 
>> utility program for the 2? Thanks.
>> 
>> Dan Presley  N7CQR
>> n7...@arrl.net
>> 
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[Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons

2016-06-05 Thread Dauer, Edward

Touchscreens versus physical buttons and knobs aren¹t the only choices.
Avionics manufacturers long ago went to so-called soft keys - physical
buttons, and knobs, whose functions change with the screen context and
which are labelled on the adjacent edge of each screen.  The versatility
is remarkable, and the screen never gets greasy from the pilot¹s lunch -
just the buttons do.  I haven¹t flown for a few years, since losing my
medical; but that¹s how the early glass cockpits looked in my last panel.
It wouldn¹t be a novel idea in radios, including Elecraft ‹ the P3, for
example, has a simple version in its row of programmable keys.  As to
upgradability, a change in F/W that assigns a new function to a knob or
key would come with a matching F/W -based change to the legend on the
adjacent part of the affected screen.  Simple.  No stick-on labels
required - just a well-designed non-touch-sensitive LCD screen.

I do agree with the point about ops with impaired vision.  Soft keys might
have an advantage over touchscreens there as well, though it may be that
proximity-triggered annunciators would be superior to both.

Ted, KN1CBR

>
>--
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:27:31 -0400
>From: Buddy Brannan 
>To: "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" ,Elecraft
>   Reflector Reflector 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products
>Message-ID: 
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can
>actually use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of
>spoken interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to
>look for a new hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with
>the aging ham population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with
>said aging population, guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed,
>too. Sounds like a great idea to me.
>
>--
>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>Phone: 814-860-3194
>Mobile: 814-431-0962
>Email: bu...@brannan.name
>
>
>
>
>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future
>>upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on
>>and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.
>> 
>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more
>>flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>> 
>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's
>>really time to lighten up, folks.
>> 
>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of
>>"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the
>>firmware grows to need them.
>> 
>>

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Gary

Ken,
Nope, me neither.
I am portabe 24/7, so is my not so smart screen phone, when in daylight the 
touch screen is useless.
The sunlight shines on my k3 and I don't have any issue so using a touch screen 
would be an order of magnitude I ain't gonna deal with.
Maybe a K3-TS?...a remote touch screen app with full k3 control?
It's just not gonna happen in my case.
My K3 is approaching adolescence, gee what a wonderful time we are still having 
daily on air.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: "Ken G Kopp" 
Sent: ‎6/‎06/‎2016 8:33 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products

I'll not be buying a radio with any form of "touch screen" ... ain't gonna
happen.  (:-))

73

K0PP
On Jun 5, 2016 13:16, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" 
wrote:

> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and
> off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.
>
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible
> than a silk-screened metal panel.
>
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really
> time to lighten up, folks.
>
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty"
> buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows
> to need them.
>
> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch
>> screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program


DX Keeper will import .csv files.
Convert the spreadsheet to comma separated values and import to DX Keeper.
Downside is you are responsible to make sure the data are in the correct 
columns.


On 6/5/2016 5:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
The bad news is that it could be difficult to export your Excel data 
to any ham logging program, but it's worth poking around the internet 
for someone who has done it.


BTW -- Cabrillo logs have been the standard for contests for many 
years. While some contests still accept other formats or paper logs, 
the trend is to reject them because  volunteers have gotten tired of 
doing what the submitter didn't want to do -- enter it by hand, one 
QSO at a time, into Cabrillo. :)


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Alan Geller via Elecraft

Knobs and and switches provide the illusion of control…and that my friends, is 
what life is all about 8^)  Elecraft
does a great job of giving us what we need while giving us what we want….which 
is the exception the Rolling
Stones would accept...

Alan/K6ADG
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire

Looking at the K-POD functionality, it seems to me that the future is modular. 

Already rigs like the K3 have an RF section, a control section, a signal 
processing section and an I/O section that are largely on separate boards in 
separate parts of the rig. And then there is the display section which is a 
separate box such as the P3, PX3 or even a PC. 

Except for the extremely compact rigs, it seems to me the future will bring 
increased options that can be plugged into each other according to the 
operator's interests and needs. Even highly compact rigs may find features such 
as frequency, spectrum, settings and other such items on wearable displays like 
glasses or on a Braille readout. Couple in an earwig mic/headphone and a 
smartphone size device that handles logging and I can imagine someone sitting 
on a park bench staring off into space saying "CQ Contest, CQ Contest, CQ 
Contes...". 

A few years ago such a scene would have people calling the guys with the funny 
white jackets but today I doubt if most people would even notice.  

(BTW, sri about the K-NOB reference. That somehow slipped off of my fingers 
unnoticed until Dick caught it. The little box does have a big knob!)

73, Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Dave Fugleberg

Any of the contest loggers will work for VHF contesting- I've used N1MM and
Writelog on VHF contests.
N3FJP has several loggers for specific purposes, including one specifically
for VHF+ contesting. I probably use that one more than the others for VHF.
All of them have the features you mentioned. It mostly comes down to
personal preferences and what you get used to.
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM Ian Kahn  wrote:

> I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents'
> worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and
> evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest.
>
> HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list
> (including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). One new
> feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the
> ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into
> the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to
> set, and the HRD logger
>
> Ian Kahn, KM4IK
> Roswell, GA EM74ua
> km4ik@gmail.com
> 10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038
> PODXS 070 #1962
> K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Edward R Cole
> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program
>
> Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?
> My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
> No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX
> QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"
>
> Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked
> the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not
> enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid
> is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct
> callsigns).
>
> So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally
> are not so fast and furious as on HF.
> But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time
> and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe.
> Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo
> conversion would be nice for contests.
>
> I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] XLR Audio Cable to K3S

2016-06-05 Thread Jim Brown


On Sun,6/5/2016 9:30 AM, David Ahrendts wrote:

Am I correct here:
I’m building an audio cable for the K3S — 3-pin XLR from the mich to the 8-pin 
K3S input (pin diagram on page 13 of the Owner’s manual). And here’s a Wiki on 
the XLR pins:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector
XLR pin #1 (ground) to K3S 8-pin #7 and #8, both ground.


First, the correct words are SHIELD and SHIELDING ENCLOSURE, not 
"ground." For a dynamic mic, pin 1 to the shielding enclosure, pin 2 is 
mic "high," pin 3 is mic return.



The connector shell should be grounded also for best RF protection, yes?


NO, an the shell of an cable-mounted XLR should NOT be connected to 
anything. The shell of ALL connectors built into equipment SHOULD be 
bonded to the shielding enclosure.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Jim Brown


On Sun,6/5/2016 9:22 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF 
logging?  My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX 
QSL-SENT
Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR" 


Sure. DXKeeper may be good enough for slow VHF contest activity, but 
N1MM Plus is far better with things are popping (i.e., when the band is 
open for double-hop and you've got to finish the Q fast and move on to 
the next station). N1MM Plus does nothing for QSL or awards, so you want 
DXKeeper for that. See earlier posts in this thread for that.


The bad news is that it could be difficult to export your Excel data to 
any ham logging program, but it's worth poking around the internet for 
someone who has done it.


BTW -- Cabrillo logs have been the standard for contests for many years. 
While some contests still accept other formats or paper logs, the trend 
is to reject them because  volunteers have gotten tired of doing what 
the submitter didn't want to do -- enter it by hand, one QSO at a time, 
into Cabrillo. :)


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] K3 Watt Meter Calibration Question

2016-06-05 Thread engineercm

Noticed today 20m output measured by LP100A was 90w when K3 wattmeter set to
100w. Same with 10m; other bands measured close enough.  Updated firmware to
latest and performed Transmit Calibration.  Calib:WM HP at 50w set to agree
with LP100A.  In order to get 100w on LP100A, I have to crank the K3 output
so that it reads 110 on the internal wattmeter.  Why?  Slope effect of
internal WM?

ATU is in Bypass; tried two different dummy loads with same result.  Yes, I
know 10% difference is barely noticeable at the other end; it's annoying.

What am I doing wrong?

Clark
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[Elecraft] Looking for Used K3

2016-06-05 Thread Rob Monsipapa

If you are selling a K3 please send me all the details.
Are you the original owner?
What options are installed?
Has it been service and if so, for what?
What comes with the K3?
How much are you asking for it?
If you live in Phoenix it would be a plus.

Thanks
Rob
AK7RM
MESA, AZ

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

Of course, touch screens can be made to work, witness the iThingies. But that's 
an awful lot of complexity. Given that the available resources in current 
generation Elecraft gear can't even be stretched to include spoken feedback 
(this is not a criticism, mind you, just a statement of fact), it seems 
unlikely that such resources would be available just by the addition of a touch 
screen. 

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> An idea just off the top of my head: Put a physical grid over the touch 
> screen so the blind OP can find the buttons. A grid of 2mm x 2mm bars 
> separated into 15-20mm areas might work well. Have the radio speak the status 
> of the button when it is pressed. If you have two-level press sensitivity, 
> like the new Apple MacBooks, then you can use one level as a request to 
> report the status and the other as a request to change the status (press the 
> button). Rectangular areas could be used as sliders for adjustments etc. 
> (Note that for blind usage, you don't need a screen. A touch pad alone will 
> do.
> 
> One of the great things about amateur radio is that people with significant 
> handicaps can still play. One of the board members of my club is blind. Other 
> members bring him to meetings, and it is always nice to hear his voice on the 
> air. People who can't hear can still be expert digital operators. etc.
> 
> Elecraft is to be applauded for their commitment to accessibility.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 6/5/16 at 12:37 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:
> 
>> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind 
>> operators.
>> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios with 
>> those blind operators particularly in mind.
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Ken G Kopp

I'll not be buying a radio with any form of "touch screen" ... ain't gonna
happen.  (:-))

73

K0PP
On Jun 5, 2016 13:16, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" 
wrote:

> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and
> off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.
>
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible
> than a silk-screened metal panel.
>
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really
> time to lighten up, folks.
>
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty"
> buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows
> to need them.
>
> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch
>> screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Ian Kahn

I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents'
worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and
evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest.

HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list
(including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). One new
feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the
ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into
the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to
set, and the HRD logger

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Roswell, GA EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
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PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Edward R Cole
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?
My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX
QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"

Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked
the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not
enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid
is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct
callsigns).

So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally
are not so fast and furious as on HF.
But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time
and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe.
Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo
conversion would be nice for contests.

I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread EricJ

It's always interesting to hear list members' idea of new amateur radio 
products. I get the idea that the ham market is driven by the needs of 
megabuck contesters and DX'ers, many of whom are now legally 
incorporated entities! I'm obviously not in tune with an amateur market 
that sees a combiner for three $2000+ linears as a viable product. Maybe 
the ham market has always been driven by these folks, the race car 
drivers in our sport with factory sponsorship, whose wants and needs 
then trickle down to the rest of us as rear view mirrors and racing 
stripes for our family SUV.


I have no advice for Elecraft which already produces things that are 
beyond my needs in this hobby. But consider this. I worked the Alabama 
QSO Party this weekend just for fun.  I did all my tuning/searching with 
my Drake 2B, then "pounced" (a word that is hyperbole for what I do in a 
contest) with the K2/100. There was nothing I could hear on the K2 that 
I couldn't hear on the 2B. In fact, I was only interested in mobiles 
running AL counties, the weaker stations in the contest.


Granted this 50 year old radio suffers a number of inadequacies that I 
would no longer stand for, however, it is still capable of performing 
the duties that MOST actual everyday hams require of a receiver. It 
would not make it through the first lap as a race car, but it still does 
a remarkable job as a daily ride. And, the Drake 2B is still more FUN. 
It wouldn't be enhanced with a touch screen instead of knobs/switches 
and neither would anything else meant for every day hamming.


Eric

KE6US


On 6/5/2016 12:27 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can actually 
use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of spoken 
interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to look for a new 
hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with the aging ham 
population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with said aging population, 
guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, too. Sounds like a great idea 
to me.

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding

2016-06-05 Thread Walter Underwood

Get a big clamp-on ferrite and wrap the power cord through it as many times as 
will fit. Do that as close as you can to the back of the iMac. The iMac has a 
three-conductor  power cord, so try and get all of the power cords for your 
equipment to a single power strip. This is a start at bonding the grounds, 
though it assumes competent construction on all your equipment, not just the 
iMac.

In general, Mac power supplies are built to very high standards for safety and 
RF interference. We’d all like the standards to be tougher, of course.

The encyclopedic paper on RFI by K9YC recommends the "#31 'biggest clamp-on' 
(Fair-Rite #0431177081)”.

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf 


Your other problem is the OCF dipole. A fundamentally unbalanced antenna is 
going to pick up more noise. Put the best quality choke/balun you can buy at 
the feed point of that thing. When I put a Balun Designs 1:1 balun on my 
(balanced) dipole, the noise dropped by 7 dB. This is the one I used. Their 
definition of “QRP” is 250 W. Their QRO baluns handle either 3 kW or 5 kW.

http://www.balundesigns.com/qrp-model-1110-1-1-isolation-choke-balun-1-54-mhz/ 


wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Jun 5, 2016, at 5:03 AM, Joel Black  wrote:
> 
> I figured out most of my problems with all the spikes on the PX3 - the 
> switching P/S in my iMac. To a lesser extent, I can hear the MFJ-4125 
> switching P/S I use to power the KX3 and PX3. I cannot remember if I tried 
> looking at the spectrum using the Astron RS-35 as a power source and plugging 
> in the 4125 or not. I will try that today. I did use the RX SHFT and was able 
> to move a huge spike off the carrier. Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing 
> filter or was that fixed in a F/W update?
> 
> I’m pretty sure I can bond the KX3, PX3, and MFJ-4125 but I don’t have a 
> *clue* how to bond the iMac. It’s a late 2012 27” iMac. It’s an all-in-one 
> with *no* external screws. It’s the model with the “pregnant” bulge in the 
> back. However, if it means I have to go to a Windows computer, I’ll live with 
> the noise or build a Hackintosh. I also use this computer for other things - 
> editing video, etc.
> 
> I *did* try my wife’s Mac Book Pro with the power supply plugged in and I did 
> not notice the P/S noise on the PX3; however, her computer is not powerful 
> enough to edit video unless you have time to wait. ;)
> 
> Just to make sure I understand what I need to do:
> 
> 1. Bond the KX3 to the power supply.
> 2. Bond the KX3 to the PX3.
> 3. Bond the KX3 to the computer (somehow).
> 4. Bond the KX3 to the sound card (in my case, a Focusrite 2i2).
> 
> Trying to use ASCII to draw, I’m guessing it should look like this:
> 
> PX3KX3———MFJ-4125
>  /   \
> / \
>  iMac Focusrite 2i2
> 
> 
> My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, 
> NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as 
> well? All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out 
> a soffit vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod 
> is bonded to house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in 
> the middle of the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is 
> over to the side and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not 
> bonded but, from my reading, it should be.
> 
> Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you 
> tell me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;)
> 
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Ian Kahn

I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents'
worth. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and
evangelist for Ham Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest.

HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list
(including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). One new
feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is the
ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input into
the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to
set, and the HRD logger must be running in the background. This eliminates
the step of exporting the contest log to an ADIF and then importing it
into HRD. I admit my bias, but feel HRD is well worth the license fee and
is among the best logging/rig control/digi mode/satellite/rotor control
suites available.

Thanks and 73,

--Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
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PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Edward R Cole
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?
My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX
QSL-SENT Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"

Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked
the station, previously. MY log is an initial contact log and I do not
enter repeat contacts. Present use is all manual entry and search. Grid
is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct
callsigns).

So far I run contests on paper with pencil. Eme and VHF contests normally
are not so fast and furious as on HF.
But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time
and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe.
Be most handy tallying score and entering contest log. Cabrillo
conversion would be nice for contests.

I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
dubus...@gmail.com

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Bill Frantz

An idea just off the top of my head: Put a physical grid over 
the touch screen so the blind OP can find the buttons. A grid of 
2mm x 2mm bars separated into 15-20mm areas might work well. 
Have the radio speak the status of the button when it is 
pressed. If you have two-level press sensitivity, like the new 
Apple MacBooks, then you can use one level as a request to 
report the status and the other as a request to change the 
status (press the button). Rectangular areas could be used as 
sliders for adjustments etc. (Note that for blind usage, you 
don't need a screen. A touch pad alone will do.


One of the great things about amateur radio is that people with 
significant handicaps can still play. One of the board members 
of my club is blind. Other members bring him to meetings, and it 
is always nice to hear his voice on the air. People who can't 
hear can still be expert digital operators. etc.


Elecraft is to be applauded for their commitment to accessibility.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/5/16 at 12:37 PM, donw...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:


Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for blind 
operators.
Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their 
radios with those blind operators particularly in mind.

---
Bill Frantz|The nice thing about standards| Periwinkle
(408)356-8506  |is there are so many to choose| 16345 
Englewood Ave
www.pwpconsult.com |from.   - Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Ian - Ham

I'm late jumping into this discussion, but want to add my two cents' worth.
In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a beta tester and evangelist for Ham
Radio Deluxe, but have no financial interest.

HRD provides all the functionality everyone has mentioned on this list
(including the info Ed asked for below, for V/UHF logging). In addition to
rig control, logging (which provides at-a-glance worked/confirmed info in
the cluster window), and digi modes, HRD also provides satellite tracking
and rotor control, all in one suite of tools. Awards tracking is superb.
And, HRD allows the use of MariaDB (a variant of MySQL) as the log database,
instead of just using Access (Access is the default data store, but it can
be converted very easily, following the video on HRD's YouTube channel). One
new feature that HRD has that I haven't heard about in any other logger is
the ability to take input from N1MM Logger+ directly as it is being input
into the contest logger. There are a couple of configuration items in HRD to
set, and the HRD logger must be running in the background during the
contest. This eliminates the step of exporting the contest log to an ADIF
and then importing it into HRD. I admit my bias, but feel HRD is well worth
the license fee and is among the best all-in-one suites available.

Thanks and 73,

--Ian
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R Cole
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To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?  My
logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT
Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"

Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked
the station, previously.  MY log is an initial contact log and I do not
enter repeat contacts.  Present use is all manual entry and search.  Grid is
six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct
callsigns).

So far I run contests on paper with pencil.  Eme and VHF contests normally
are not so fast and furious as on HF.
But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and
call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe.  Be
most handy tallying score and entering contest log.  Cabrillo conversion
would be nice for contests.

I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Jerry Moore

Adding $100 or more to add a touchscreen ui to a radio provides very little 
value in my view, is silly. The radio cost to value ratio is very low (meaning 
the value is high). The only exception I can see would be integrating the P3 as 
an option (hopefully enhancing with a micro computer/ssd for logging, digital, 
extended macros...etc, basically what I'm doing now with a raspberry pi). 

So that is if the cost is comparable to getting the P3.

Without the features of the P3 integrated; who changes settings so often that 
the included programmable macro buttons aren't enough? 


On June 5, 2016 4:35:26 PM EDT, John  wrote:
>Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind.
>
>Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch
>screen smart phones
>out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching
>for your keyboards
>to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch
>screen UI have
>also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots
>also use touch screen
>UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on
>commercial aircraft
>and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham
>radio.
>Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have
>dropped the cost enormously,
>resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. 
>Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If
>you need more knobs 
>or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added……no
>problem with a touch screen.
>Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the
>screen.
>The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs
>and buttons when features
>are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three
>functions, and to try and
>remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes
>difficult.
>
>Food for thought :-)
>
>73
>John
>
>
>
>
>On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE 
>wrote:
>
>Don,
>
>I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen
>capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize
>the error of their ways.  Hopfully they would still have enough
>capital to revert to the original design and fire the person
>responsible for the change.
>
>On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:
>
>> Lynn,
>> 
>> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
>> blind operators.
>> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their
>radios 
>> with those blind operators particularly in mind.
>> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
>>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
>>> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things
>
>>> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
>>> released.
>>> 
>>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
>>> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>>> 
>>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
>>> really time to lighten up, folks.
>>> 
>>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
>>> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the
>
>>> firmware grows to need them.
>>> 
>>> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
 touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>>> 
>>> 
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[Elecraft] KX2 utility for mac?

2016-06-05 Thread Dan Presley

Does anyone know if the KX2 utility program is available for Macs? I only see a 
windows version on the software page. Alternatively-can I use the KX3 utility 
program for the 2? Thanks.

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[Elecraft] Pelican 1200 series case for sale

2016-06-05 Thread Mike Weir

I have a new Pelican 1200 black series case for sale. The foam has been picked 
to fit an Elecraft KX3. If you have the KX3 this case is ready to go. Pic are 
available to those interested. The cost is 40.00 including shipping. Mike 
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread John

Ha, Elecraft needs to progress at some stage, or get left behind.

Touch screen UI is and has been extensively used - 3 billion touch screen smart 
phones
out there, 1.2 billion touch screen tablets. I can see you all reaching for 
your keyboards
to protest that phones and tablets are not the same thing. Well, touch screen 
UI have
also moved over to commercial products, the military and airline pilots also 
use touch screen
UI communication devices. If they are good enough to be used on commercial 
aircraft
and in military applications, then it sure is good enough for ham radio.
Touch screen UI panels having become so prolific, that they have dropped the 
cost enormously,
resolution is picture sharp and reliability is extremely good. 
Touch screens have huge potential, and almost unlimited versatility. If you 
need more knobs 
or buttons on your rig, due to new features having been added……no problem with 
a touch screen.
Just a firmware update to add a knob, button, slider or meter onto the screen.
The problem with conventional rigs, is you run out of physical knobs and 
buttons when features
are added to the radio. I see this in my KX3 - some knobs have three functions, 
and to try and
remember what each knobs second or third function does, becomes difficult.

Food for thought :-)

73
John

On 5 Jun 2016, at 10:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE  wrote:

Don,

I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen
capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize
the error of their ways.  Hopfully they would still have enough
capital to revert to the original design and fire the person
responsible for the change.

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:

> Lynn,
> 
> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
> blind operators.
> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios 
> with those blind operators particularly in mind.
> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
>> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
>> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
>> released.
>> 
>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
>> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>> 
>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
>> really time to lighten up, folks.
>> 
>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
>> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
>> firmware grows to need them.
>> 
>> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
>>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Jim Finan

I made my annual pilgrimage to the nearest Ham store (3 hours drive) and saw a 
bunch of very pretty equipment. 

However, I'm not going to ditch my Elecraft gear any time soon. 

Touchscreens have some advantages, but there are a number of trade-offs. 
Reliability (I remember problems with the FTDX5000 displays), ruggedness ‎, 
etc. Also seem to take more power to run the bells and whistles. 

There could be a couple of solutions to their use by sight-impaired Hams‎. One 
would be voice recognition software. Like Siri or Cortana - how about 'Ellie'?

Development costs would be pretty steep and we all know how wonderful the voice 
recognition software can be...

Another idea would be to use a 'Super' K-pod/K-nob and/or something like the 
Genovation keyboards (mentioned recently on the reflector). That would be a 
much more simple solution. It could have custom keycaps with Braille characters 
on them. 

Not too many, but maybe 12-24? That interface could be used on multiple radios 
(a bunch of speculation about that regarding the K-pod recently)‎. USB or 
something else to plug in. I'm not wild about wireless as that's one more 
battery to deal with. 

BTW, Touchscreens don't necessarily need to be proprietary. I have a couple 
that are generic with my Beaglebone that seem to work ok‎. Nice toy but not 
necessary. 

Not sure how practical these ideas are...

73,

Jim
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  Original Message  
From: Don Wilhelm
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 3:39 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New products

Lynn,

Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
blind operators.
Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios 
with those blind operators particularly in mind.
A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
> released.
>
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
> really time to lighten up, folks.
>
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
> firmware grows to need them.
>
> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New products


I can speak directly to that Don.

Three years ago I had and accident and detached both retinas.
Six eye surgeries later and I am 20/80 in the left eye and 20/50-40 
(depending on the day) in the right. I am legally blind. None of that is 
reversible with anything you can do at the front of the eye. The damage 
was in the back.
I can't use my K2/100 because it needs an alignment that I don't think I 
can see well enough to pull off. I was trying to add fixed audio out to 
the rig when I had my accident. I have one of the last NØSS boards for 
such somewhere.


Ham Radio moving to a GUI interface would be the end of my Ham Radio hobby.
I work with the aid of some very expensive gadgets and software designed 
to magnify the screen.
Zoomtext from AI Squared has been a real blessing. The Linux community 
on the other hand has been a major disappointment. Lets just say 
accessibility is not on the Linux fan boy top ten list of improvements. 
We need yet another scripting language, chat client, window manager, 
etc Accessibility just isn't sexy or a good resume fluffer.


The only way I use a P3 or PX3 is the SVGA card in the P3 and a 24" 
monitor, and the I/Q output into a laptop/sound card running NaP3 from 
the PX3.


I applaud Elecraft for embracing the accessibility mantel hope to high 
heck they don't accede to the noisy minority.


On 6/5/2016 2:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Lynn,

Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
blind operators.
Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios 
with those blind operators particularly in mind.

A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
released.


Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.


I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
really time to lighten up, folks.


Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
firmware grows to need them.


On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch



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Re: [Elecraft] New products

Only if it's Elecraft. Clearly this isn't the case with Yaecomwoodlincotec. 
Well, at least a couple of those, anyway. 

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 4:13 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE  wrote:
> 
> Don,
> 
> I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen
> capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize
> the error of their ways.  Hopfully they would still have enough
> capital to revert to the original design and fire the person
> responsible for the change.
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:
> 
>> Lynn,
>> 
>> Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
>> blind operators.
>> Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios 
>> with those blind operators particularly in mind.
>> A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
>>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
>>> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
>>> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
>>> released.
>>> 
>>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
>>> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>>> 
>>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
>>> really time to lighten up, folks.
>>> 
>>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
>>> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
>>> firmware grows to need them.
>>> 
>>> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
 Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
 touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

Don,

I suspect that having redesigned a rig with touch screen
capability the manufacturer would, in a short period of time realize
the error of their ways.  Hopfully they would still have enough
capital to revert to the original design and fire the person
responsible for the change.

On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:37:42 -0400, you wrote:

>Lynn,
>
>Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
>blind operators.
>Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios 
>with those blind operators particularly in mind.
>A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
>> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
>> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
>> on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
>> released.
>>
>> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
>> flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.
>>
>> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
>> really time to lighten up, folks.
>>
>> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
>> "empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
>> firmware grows to need them.
>>
>> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
>>> touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 SN0158

2016-06-05 Thread Wayne Burdick


On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:56 PM, JOHN T SMITH  wrote:

> Internal battery 5 watts worked IT9SSI my first contact in couple calls on an 
> OCF. Awesome little radio. Now I need to read the manual ;-)-de K3GO John

I, too, have always enjoyed the thrill of uncertainty that comes from putting 
the cart before the horse. Bravo :)

Wayne


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[Elecraft] KX2 SN0158

2016-06-05 Thread JOHN T SMITH

Internal battery 5 watts worked IT9SSI my first contact in couple calls on an 
OCF. Awesome little radio. Now I need to read the manual ;-)-de K3GO John
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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Jim - N4ST

Ed,

It costs money and does more than just logging, but HRD would certainly
cover the bases.
The logbook covers all of the items you list, plus QSL S/R for eQSL and LoTW
with dates sent and dates received.
You can also log station setup (rig, antenna, power, etc.) as well as
propagation mode (Es, tropo, meter scatter, aurora, etc.)
You could put all of your QSOs in the same log and set the display filter to
just display the band of interest.
Or create separate logs per band if you really want to do that.

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward
R Cole
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 12:23
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?  My
logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT
Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"

Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked
the station, previously.  MY log is an initial contact log and I do not
enter repeat contacts.  Present use is all manual entry and search.  Grid is
six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct
callsigns).

So far I run contests on paper with pencil.  Eme and VHF contests normally
are not so fast and furious as on HF.
But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and
call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe.  Be
most handy tallying score and entering contest log.  Cabrillo conversion
would be nice for contests.

I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Don Wilhelm


Lynn,

Please tell us how a touchscreen interface can enhance usability for 
blind operators.
Elecraft has made a commitment for such usability for all their radios 
with those blind operators particularly in mind.

A GUI interface means nothing to those who cannot see it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2016 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things 
on and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally 
released.


Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.


I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
really time to lighten up, folks.


Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
firmware grows to need them.


On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the 
touch screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S audio and N1MM+

2016-06-05 Thread Paul Wilton

Solution
Thanks for the help either on the reflector or direct.

I found the problem in the end.  This was brand new K3S I was setting up.  
Since I wanted to use N1MM+ as voice keyer, I had never run it with MAIN:MIC 
set to Line.  Hence the “mic gain” for the LINE input was set to zero.  
Changing MAIN:MIC to Line first, increasing the gain so that the audio was 
working and then going back to MAIN:MIC to RP (with MAIN:MIC+LIN ON) worked.

73

Paul
M1CNK




> On 4 Jun 2016, at 18:32, Paul Wilton  wrote:
> 
> I’m trying to set up a K3S with N1MM+ and am having problems with the TX 
> audio.  I have connected the K3S via USB to my windows PC and with Audacity 
> have proved that I can receive audio over the USB connection using the 
> built-in soundcard in the K3S.  However, I cannot make it go in the other 
> direction - ie get the K3S USB soundcard to modulate the output.  
> 
> My desire is to get N1MM+ to be the voice keyer.  I have got a headset 
> plugged into the 3.5mm sockets on the rear of the K3S.  This works.  When I 
> ask N1MM+ to transmit audio, then the K3S goes into TX.  However, I cannot 
> heard the computer generated audio in my headset - all I can hear is my own 
> breathing into the headset mic (hence proving that that the monitor function 
> works).  Also, no RF is going out.  MAIN:MIC is set to RP, MAIN:MIC+LIN is 
> set to ON.
> 
> Am incorrectly assuming that I can use the K3S soundcard in this way?  If 
> not, what am I doing wrong!
> 
> 73
> 
> Paul
> M1CNK
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Josh

Why pay for an expensive, low volume touch screen when most of us carry very 
nice ones with us?

Write an iOS and/or Android app radio interface. You could accomplish most of 
this with the existing hardware with the addition of a smart dongle that 
includes RS232 and BLE connectivity. 

73
Josh W6XU

Sent from my mobile device (& K3 interface)

> On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and 
> off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.
> 
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible 
> than a silk-screened metal panel.
> 
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really 
> time to lighten up, folks.
> 
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" 
> buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows 
> to need them.
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

Lighten up, you say? I don't know...I sort of like having radios I can actually 
use. Unless said touch screen will also come with some sort of spoken 
interface, (they haven't, so far), I guess eventually I get to look for a new 
hobby if that's where we're all going. And really, with the aging ham 
population and the sight loss that sometimes comes with said aging population, 
guess a lot of those guys are gonna be screwed, too. Sounds like a great idea 
to me. 

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
> upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on and 
> off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.
> 
> Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more flexible 
> than a silk-screened metal panel.
> 
> I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's really 
> time to lighten up, folks.
> 
> Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of "empty" 
> buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the firmware grows 
> to need them.
> 
> On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>> Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch 
>> screen GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch
> 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 to SPE expert 1.3K-FA amp

2016-06-05 Thread Steve

Anyone out there using the above-mentioned setup? Looking for some guidance to 
interface CAT. I'm having intermittent transmission using ANT 1 but ANT 2 seems 
to work fine. Any ideas or hints?

73
Steve AA4V
843-834-1616


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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

A radio with only physical knobs and buttons severely limits future 
upgradability, and leads to crazy button combinations to turn things on 
and off that weren't even a dream when the radio was originally released.


Touch screens may not be always convenient, but they're much more 
flexible than a silk-screened metal panel.


I realize that knobs and buttons are a religion for some, but it's 
really time to lighten up, folks.


Either that or for Elecraft to release a rig with a whole bunch of 
"empty" buttons and sell stickers to update the front panel when the 
firmware grows to need them.


On 6/5/2016 10:18 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen 
GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch



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Re: [Elecraft] XLR Audio Cable to K3S



On 6/5/2016 12:30 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:
> Am I correct here:

The correct connections for an XLR (balanced) connection on
a dynamic mic to the Elecraft/Kenwood 8 pin Foster plug are:

  Mic Foster
   1   SHELL   Shield (Ground)
   2 1 Mic Hot
   3 7 Mic Return


The correct connections for an XLR (balanced) connection on
a dynamic mic to the Elecraft 3.5 mm (rear mic) jack are:

  Mic 3.5 mm
   1N/CShield (Ground)
   2TipMic Hot
   3   Sleeve  Mic Return

One should use *twisted pair* wiring for audio - particularly in
conjunction with the rear mic jack since there is no opportunity
for a grounded shield.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/5/2016 12:30 PM, David Ahrendts wrote:

Am I correct here:
I’m building an audio cable for the K3S — 3-pin XLR from the mich to the 8-pin 
K3S input (pin diagram on page 13 of the Owner’s manual). And here’s a Wiki on 
the XLR pins:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector
XLR pin #1 (ground) to K3S 8-pin #7 and #8, both ground. The connector shell 
should be grounded also for best RF protection, yes?
XLR pin #2 to K3S 8-pin #1, mich audio

David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles



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Re: [Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread David Anderson via Elecraft

VQLOG is what most VHF UHF guys use Ed. by EA6VQ. I have used it for years. 
73

David Anderson GM4JJJ


> On 5 Jun 2016, at 17:22, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF logging?  My 
> logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:
> No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT
> Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"
> 
> Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had worked the 
> station, previously.  MY log is an initial contact log and I do not enter 
> repeat contacts.  Present use is all manual entry and search.  Grid is six 
> digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial contacts (distinct 
> callsigns).
> 
> So far I run contests on paper with pencil.  Eme and VHF contests normally 
> are not so fast and furious as on HF.
> But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters time and 
> call would be nice on contests, especially if it would detect a dupe.  Be 
> most handy tallying score and entering contest log.  Cabrillo conversion 
> would be nice for contests.
> 
> I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> http://www.kl7uw.com
>"Kits made by KL7UW"
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>dubus...@gmail.com
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Rick WA6NHC


But if it's truly quantum, which reality YOU would be working whom?


On 6/5/2016 11:48 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

Good discussion, Tony.

Re "If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system 
that would allow you call through other dimensions over vast distances 
with out any propagation delay." I'd settle for an advancement which 
let me work you from California running 5 Watts to a one meter indoor 
antenna and no counterpoise -- during the low part of the sunspot 
cycle :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 6/5/16 11:28 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote:

Hi All,
I thought I might put my oar in on this; New products need a market 
is true and trying to second guess it is another story.


How would I go about developing a new product? I believe that we need 
to see a gap in the market since we are not going to create a new 
market like texting. The size of the addressable customer base needs 
to be large enough to support the development cost. One thing that 
many people see as improvement is the touch screen, while I support 
development in this area it is not core functionality to our hobby 
(can I see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and K-POD are good 
examples of pushing the new product while building on current 
development ( no I dont have an inside view of the products but it 
stands to reason). Who was it that said there are many Japanese VHF 
txcvrs? The latest trend is into the digital coms so something in 
that area maybe the next thing but I would recommend an open source 
approach to the digital coms to get others helping with the future 
development of repeater type multi channel things.
I would personally be more interested in an integrated larger HF amp 
or even a combiner to use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output.
If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system 
that would allow you call through other dimensions over vast 
distances with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few thousand 
years :-)


73 de Tony G6GLP


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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Phil Wheeler


Good discussion, Tony.

Re "If my fantasy radio was developed it would be 
quantum based system that would allow you call 
through other dimensions over vast distances with 
out any propagation delay." I'd settle for an 
advancement which let me work you from California 
running 5 Watts to a one meter indoor antenna and 
no counterpoise -- during the low part of the 
sunspot cycle :-)


73, Phil W7OX

On 6/5/16 11:28 AM, Tony G6GLP wrote:

Hi All,
I thought I might put my oar in on this; New 
products need a market is true and trying to 
second guess it is another story.


How would I go about developing a new product? I 
believe that we need to see a gap in the market 
since we are not going to create a new market 
like texting. The size of the addressable 
customer base needs to be large enough to 
support the development cost. One thing that 
many people see as improvement is the touch 
screen, while I support development in this area 
it is not core functionality to our hobby (can I 
see the flack coming on that?). The KX2 and 
K-POD are good examples of pushing the new 
product while building on current development ( 
no I dont have an inside view of the products 
but it stands to reason). Who was it that said 
there are many Japanese VHF txcvrs? The latest 
trend is into the digital coms so something in 
that area maybe the next thing but I would 
recommend an open source approach to the digital 
coms to get others helping with the future 
development of repeater type multi channel things.
I would personally be more interested in an 
integrated larger HF amp or even a combiner to 
use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output.
If my fantasy radio was developed it would be 
quantum based system that would allow you call 
through other dimensions over vast distances 
with out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few 
thousand years :-)


73 de Tony G6GLP


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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Tony G6GLP


Hi All,
I thought I might put my oar in on this; New products need a market is 
true and trying to second guess it is another story.


How would I go about developing a new product? I believe that we need to 
see a gap in the market since we are not going to create a new market 
like texting. The size of the addressable customer base needs to be 
large enough to support the development cost. One thing that many people 
see as improvement is the touch screen, while I support development in 
this area it is not core functionality to our hobby (can I see the flack 
coming on that?). The KX2 and K-POD are good examples of pushing the new 
product while building on current development ( no I dont have an inside 
view of the products but it stands to reason). Who was it that said 
there are many Japanese VHF txcvrs? The latest trend is into the digital 
coms so something in that area maybe the next thing but I would 
recommend an open source approach to the digital coms to get others 
helping with the future development of repeater type multi channel things.
I would personally be more interested in an integrated larger HF amp or 
even a combiner to use say three KPA500 to achieve the higher output.
If my fantasy radio was developed it would be quantum based system that 
would allow you call through other dimensions over vast distances with 
out any propagation delay. Maybe in a few thousand years :-)


73 de Tony G6GLP
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

> Adding hub support will also probably allow the use of Apple USB keyboards.
They have 
> built-in hubs, which is probably why they don't work with the P3/PX3.
> (Says the man who 
> has several lying around just looking for uses. At least I can use them
> with myBeagleBone 
> and Raspberry Pi.)

Assuming the Apple USB keyboards are 2.4 GHz wireless and generate the
standard HID (Human Interface Device) report, yes (probably).

A built-in hub isn’t fundamentally different than an external hub.  The same
firmware will support both.  I use a keyboard / mouse combo (i.e., a
separate keyboard and mouse which share the same wireless dongle).  I even
have a $20 credit card sized iPazzPort 2.4 GHz keyboard with a built-in
*gyroscope*.  It appears to the PX3 (via the Arduino microcontroller) just
like any other keyboard and mouse.  

I also heard from a member whose gaming keyboard didn’t work with the P3 /
PX3.  However, I’m not sure what the exact constraint was.  In theory, hub
support *may* address this situation as well.  No promises.

Joe Stone
KF5WBO



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Re: [Elecraft] New products

Also, can we pllease, for the love of all that is holy, not do the touch screen 
GUI? At least, not an exclusively touch screen GUI? If that's what counts as 
innovative, hey, where'd I put my club? Maybe behind that rock in my cave. 

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> Gee,
> 
> So far Elecraft has done a good job of providing new products with great 
> support for which there is an ample mainstream market -- a good business 
> model.  And focusing on products for which there is a good market is 
> important.
> 
> Amateur radio video: How big would that market be?  Ditto for VHF/UHF 
> exclusive transceiver, though that might go further than your video 
> suggestion.
> 
> And I believe the 1.5 kW amp/tuner topic was discussed extensively and 
> conclusively here at some time in the past 12 months.
> 
> Sure, new products are always welcome. But companies have failed by producing 
> new products for which no market materializes. And, first and foremost, I 
> want Elecraft to be around for another 17 years!
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
> 
> On 6/5/16 9:47 AM, Gee wrote:
>> We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the 
>> remake of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see 
>> something really new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been 
>> exhausted. Touch screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and 
>> tuner, new modes (is amateur radio video dead?). A great American company 
>> could be even greater by expanding it's product line with new things, not 
>> variations on the same thing.
>> 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2016-06-05 Thread kev...@coho.net


Good Morning,

Conditions have remained poor most of the week with the sun losing 
all of its spots for the last two days.  The last two days have also 
brought very hot temperatures.  I doubt there is a correlation :)  
However, if you want to test your path to the Pacific Northwest -


Please join us on:
14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)

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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

2016-06-05 Thread Grant Youngman

Is it no longer possible to have a relatively polite disagreement about 
anything with anyone without some ugly comment to follow?

> This is
> basically the same group of "contradictorians" and kool aid drinkers that
> will never suggest or let alone try anything to advance the state of art.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Phil Wheeler


Gee,

So far Elecraft has done a good job of providing 
new products with great support for which there is 
an ample mainstream market -- a good business 
model.  And focusing on products for which there 
is a good market is important.


Amateur radio video: How big would that market 
be?  Ditto for VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 
though that might go further than your video 
suggestion.


And I believe the 1.5 kW amp/tuner topic was 
discussed extensively and conclusively here at 
some time in the past 12 months.


Sure, new products are always welcome. But 
companies have failed by producing new products 
for which no market materializes. And, first and 
foremost, I want Elecraft to be around for another 
17 years!


73, Phil W7OX

On 6/5/16 9:47 AM, Gee wrote:

We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake 
of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something really 
new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. Touch 
screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new modes (is 
amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even greater by 
expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the same thing.

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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

> Don't limit it to just the KX3/PX3 ... mouse and thumb drive support 
> would be welcome in the K3/K3S and P3 particularly since the K-NOB is 
> not apparently going to be able to control the P3 marker/QSY.

[js] You’re absolutely correct, Joe.  I’m assuming the PX3 and P3 / P3SVGA
share a similar code (firmware) base.

[js] The P3 (with P3SVGA) already supports a thumb drive, at least in terms
of capturing a bitmap image of the P3 display and saving / restoring text
messages and macros to / from a thumb drive.  If you’re looking for the P3
to natively support a thumb drive (and/or mouse) without the P3SVGA, that’s
a different story.  

[js] I don’t own a K3 / K3S so I haven’t specifically looked at the K•Pod
constraints related to the P3.  My approach to integrating the K•Pod with
the PX3 (with Mouse-n-Click QSY) will also work with the P3 / P3SVGA.

[js] I have very specific thoughts on a scaled back, lower-cost version of
the K•Pod (same packaging, no switches, only a knob, preferably wireless)
targeting the PX3 (and P3).  However, I’m trying to refrain from derailing
this “firmware-only” thread.  If you’d like to discuss the possibility of a
K•Nob, let’s start a new thread.

Joe Stone
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Re: [Elecraft] New products

With the K3s, point taken. It's an upgraded K3. With the KX2, it's not a 
replacement for the KX3 in the same way the K3s was a replacement for the K3. 
So I'm thinking your assessment isn't exactly fair. 

Pass the Flavor-Aide, please. 

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> On Jun 5, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Gee  wrote:
> 
> We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake 
> of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something 
> really new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. 
> Touch screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new 
> modes (is amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even 
> greater by expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the 
> same thing. 
> 
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[Elecraft] New products

2016-06-05 Thread Gee

We have seen a remake of the K3 in the form of the K3s. Now we see the remake 
of the KX3 in the form of the KX2. So when are we going to see something really 
new from Elecraft? Surely the possibilities have not been exhausted. Touch 
screen GUI, VHF/UHF exclusive transceiver, 1.5 KW amp and tuner, new modes (is 
amateur radio video dead?). A great American company could be even greater by 
expanding it's product line with new things, not variations on the same thing. 

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[Elecraft] XLR Audio Cable to K3S

2016-06-05 Thread David Ahrendts

Am I correct here:
I’m building an audio cable for the K3S — 3-pin XLR from the mich to the 8-pin 
K3S input (pin diagram on page 13 of the Owner’s manual). And here’s a Wiki on 
the XLR pins:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector
XLR pin #1 (ground) to K3S 8-pin #7 and #8, both ground. The connector shell 
should be grounded also for best RF protection, yes?
XLR pin #2 to K3S 8-pin #1, mich audio

David A., KK6DA, Los Angeles



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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

I commend you for your ingenuity and experimentation efforts.

[js] Thank you, Robert. I try to prototype each idea before presenting it
to Elecraft in order to gain a better appreciation for what’s involved. I
try to focus on ideas which offer the most bang for the firmware buck,
building on existing Elecraft capabilities.

As a PX3 user, I'm very interested in some of these ideas. The only thing
that I hate about the PX3 is the need to tap the "SELECT" button to QSY to
the marker frequency. Many times I end up moving the PX3 all over the table
while trying to tap this button.

[js] I agree completely. I had the *exact* same problem. You either need
to “bolt” the PX3 to the table or hold it in one hand while turning /
tapping the encoder knob with the other hand.

[js] A $10 wireless mouse solves the problem … assuming Elecraft is willing
to add mouse firmware support to the PX3. Tapping the left mouse button
QSY’s the KX3 to the marker frequency. However, I imagine Elecraft rather
sell K•Pod’s. This is likely why we haven’t seen mouse firmware support
with the PX3 (and P3). It’s clearly a marketing decision and not a
technical challenge.

[js] Personally, I prefer a remote knob. I’d be willing to spend $250 for a
K•Pod if its firmware were modified to work in conjunction with the PX3.

Please don't get discourage by some rude people on this reflector. This is
basically the same group of "contradictorians" and kool aid drinkers that
will never suggest or let alone try anything to advance the state of art.

[js] Don’t worry. I’m thick-skinned. I hold patents for ideas which are
less novel.

Joe Stone
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[Elecraft] : logging/k3s control program

2016-06-05 Thread Edward R Cole

Barely dare ask, but is there a logging program suited for VHF 
logging?  My logs are simply excel spreadsheets and cover:

No. MO/DY/YR TIME CALLSIGN GRID LOCATION DXCC WAS FREQ MODE QSL-RX QSL-SENT
Last two columns track QSLs received "X" or sent "MO/DA/YR"

Especially would be nice to determine with callsign entry if I had 
worked the station, previously.  MY log is an initial contact log and 
I do not enter repeat contacts.  Present use is all manual entry and 
search.  Grid is six digit locator. e.g. on 2m-eme I have 438 initial 
contacts (distinct callsigns).


So far I run contests on paper with pencil.  Eme and VHF contests 
normally are not so fast and furious as on HF.
But a log that saves frequency, mode and date info while one enters 
time and call would be nice on contests, especially if it would 
detect a dupe.  Be most handy tallying score and entering contest 
log.  Cabrillo conversion would be nice for contests.


I keep separate logs by band (only logging 6m+ contacts)

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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

2016-06-05 Thread Bill Frantz

Adding hub support will also probably allow the use of Apple USB 
keyboards. They have built-in hubs, which is probably why they 
don't work with the P3/PX3. (Says the man who has several lying 
around just looking for uses. At least I can use them with my 
BeagleBone and Raspberry Pi.)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/4/16 at 10:01 AM, kf5...@wickedbeernut.com (wickedbeernut) wrote:


I'd like Elecraft to add USB hub support to the PX3,


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging

2016-06-05 Thread Jim KO5V

I cannot directly answer your questions about logging programs with Ubuntu, but 
I can say that Oracle Virtual Box running XP has worked well for me - a LOT 
better than attempting to run some programs with Wine. I must also say that I 
did go back to Ubuntu 12.4 after a later upgrade lobotomized my machine, so I 
am a bit behind the curve. I need to spend some time and see if I can upgrade 
to something a bit more current, but the last upgrade was a disaster!

Good luck, and let us know what you find out,

73, Jim  KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support


On 6/5/2016 11:20 AM, wickedbeernut wrote:

If we can convince Elecraft to add mouse / remote knob and USB hub
support (in addition to the planned thumb drive support), I hope to
retire my Arduino altogether and operate picnic table portable with
only the PX3 and KX3.


Don't limit it to just the KX3/PX3 ... mouse and thumb drive support
would be welcome in the K3/K3S and P3 particularly since the K-NOB is
not apparently going to be able to control the P3 marker/QSY.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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[Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K2 and Linux contest logging

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging
Date:   Sun, 5 Jun 2016 10:29:29 -0500
From:   Kevin Stover 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

TLF or XTLF connected to a K1EL WinKey.
That is a contest only solution.
For general logging and other stuff you can use the Linux equivalent of
HRD, CQRLog.

The Winkey plugs in the key jack on the K2 which you have set for Hand
keying.
Both TLF and XTLF support Hamlib so you can do rig control through a
serial or USB port on the computer.
Be aware that the DB9 connector on the K2 IS NOT A SERIAL PORT. DO NOT
CONNECT A SERIAL CABLE TO THAT PORT.

You can find directions for building the appropriate cable on the
Elecraft website or the instructions for the KIO2. The cable building
instructions begin at page thirteen in my manual.

On 6/5/2016 8:53 AM, Mike Markowski wrote:

Neil,

I'm far from a hard core contester but enjoy DXCC, Field Day, etc.
For me the best solution has been xlog along with hamlib & cwdaemon.
I made a small NPN transistor-based circuit in an Altoids tin to do
serial port based PTT keying for cwdaemon.  (I picked up an Edgeport
usb-to-serial converter on ebay for $20.) It's a simple set up and
works well for my level of contesting.

It also has the advantage of keying any rig.  I use it with my K1,
though of course hamlib can't interact with that rig.

Good luck and 73,
Mike ab3ap

On 06/04/2016 07:51 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:

For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio!

[...]

Are there any K2 owners who use Linux computers for sending CW from a
contest logger? What do you do that works?

-Neil N0FN

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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

> Please share your Arduino code.

Hi Bob,

The whitepaper includes a sample of the PoC (Proof of Concept) Mouse-n-Click
QSY Arduino firmware from August,

http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/Mouse-n-ClickQSY.pdf

If you still have questions, feel free to E-mail me off-list.

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[Elecraft] FS: K3/K3S weighted knobs

2016-06-05 Thread dlrwild1

FS: weighted VFO A plus VFO B knobs for the K3 or K3S, brand new sealed in 
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

> Exactly what I have been looking for and trying to design and build! I will
use 
> an Arduino Mega and a USB host shield to put this together!  Thanks for
> showing 
> the idea. Now, when Elecraft puts in the software, a portable KX3 will be
> more 
> useful since we can program all kinds of macros to be accessed from the 
> keyboard. Thanks!

You’re welcome, Bill.

I demonstrated keyboard and mouse support for the PX3 back in August, prior
to the time the PX3 added native keyboard and text message / macro support. 
I also demonstrated automatically callsign recognition using the following
regular expression,

^([BFGIKMNTW]|[A-Z0-9]{2})[0-9][A-Z0-9]{0,3}[A-Z]$

Here is a whitepaper which describes this in more detail,

http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/Mouse-n-ClickQSY.pdf

The whitepaper includes a sample of the PoC (Proof of Concept) Mouse-n-Click
QSY Arduino firmware.

Now, I use the native PX3 keyboard and text message / macro support, but
continue to rely on my Arduino for mouse and remote knob support,

http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg

If we can convince Elecraft to add mouse / remote knob and USB hub support
(in addition to the planned thumb drive support), I hope to retire my
Arduino altogether and operate picnic table portable with only the PX3 and
KX3.

Joe Stone
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

2016-06-05 Thread Robert Vargas-KP4Y via Elecraft

Joe, 

I commend you for your ingenuity and experimentation efforts. As a PX3 user, 
I'm very interested in some of these ideas. The only thing that I hate about 
the PX3 is the need to tap the "SELECT" button to QSY to the marker frequency. 
Many times I end up moving the PX3 all over the table while trying to tap this 
button. 

Please don't get discourage by some rude people on this reflector. This is 
basically the same group of "contradictorians" and kool aid drinkers that will 
never suggest or let alone try anything to advance the state of art.

73,
Robert-KP4Y/W4

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> 
> Exactly what I have been looking for and trying to design and build! I will 
> use an Arduino Mega and a USB host shield to put this together!  Thanks for 
> showing the idea. Now, when Elecraft puts in the software, a portable KX3 
> will be more useful since we can program all kinds of macros to be accessed 
> from the keyboard. Thanks!
> 
> Thumb crafted from my iPhone
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> On Jun 4, 2016, at 6:22 PM, wickedbeernut  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

2016-06-05 Thread Bob N3MNT

Joe
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Keyboard, Mouse, Thumb Drive and Knob Support

2016-06-05 Thread Bill

Exactly what I have been looking for and trying to design and build! I will use 
an Arduino Mega and a USB host shield to put this together!  Thanks for showing 
the idea. Now, when Elecraft puts in the software, a portable KX3 will be more 
useful since we can program all kinds of macros to be accessed from the 
keyboard. Thanks!

Thumb crafted from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2016, at 6:22 PM, wickedbeernut  wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding

2016-06-05 Thread Fred Moore

much noise comes from and iMac from the USB cables, beads will greatly
reduce the noise... Fred


On 6/5/16 9:35 AM, John wrote:
> Can’t do that - with the iMac the power supply is built in…it’s an 
> all-in-one. 
>
>
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2016, at 2:42 PM, Buck via Elecraft  wrote:
>
> Here is the authority on the issue. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf
>
> Have you put ferrite on the cables from the iMac and the switching power 
> supply?
>
> You've used "star" grounding around the KX3.  Try bonding everything to 
> everything - you want to provide a low-impedance parallel path from case to 
> case everywhere there is a connection. So, there should be a bond between the 
> soundcard and the iMac and the soundcard and power supply.   Also the iMac 
> and soundcard to the PX3.  Your diagram should look more like a spider web.
>
> Are the interconnecting cables grounded to the chassis or the circuit board?  
> You'll have to open some things up and see if there is the "pin 1 problem" 
> where the cable's ground is on the circuit board and not the chassis.
>
> I would look for a YouTube video on how to open up that iMac.  I am sure 
> someone has posted one.
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and Linux contest logging

2016-06-05 Thread Mike Markowski


Neil,

I'm far from a hard core contester but enjoy DXCC, Field Day, etc.  For 
me the best solution has been xlog along with hamlib & cwdaemon.  I made 
a small NPN transistor-based circuit in an Altoids tin to do serial port 
based PTT keying for cwdaemon.  (I picked up an Edgeport  usb-to-serial 
converter on ebay for $20.)  It's a simple set up and works well for my 
level of contesting.


It also has the advantage of keying any rig.  I use it with my K1, 
though of course hamlib can't interact with that rig.


Good luck and 73,
Mike ab3ap

On 06/04/2016 07:51 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:

For my first time ever, I have a computer connected to my radio!

[...]

Are there any K2 owners who use Linux computers for sending CW from a
contest logger? What do you do that works?

-Neil N0FN

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding

2016-06-05 Thread John

Can’t do that - with the iMac the power supply is built in…it’s an all-in-one. 




On 5 Jun 2016, at 2:42 PM, Buck via Elecraft  wrote:

Here is the authority on the issue. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

Have you put ferrite on the cables from the iMac and the switching power supply?

You've used "star" grounding around the KX3.  Try bonding everything to 
everything - you want to provide a low-impedance parallel path from case to 
case everywhere there is a connection. So, there should be a bond between the 
soundcard and the iMac and the soundcard and power supply.   Also the iMac and 
soundcard to the PX3.  Your diagram should look more like a spider web.

Are the interconnecting cables grounded to the chassis or the circuit board?  
You'll have to open some things up and see if there is the "pin 1 problem" 
where the cable's ground is on the circuit board and not the chassis.

I would look for a YouTube video on how to open up that iMac.  I am sure 
someone has posted one.

K4ia
Buck
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[Elecraft] FS: KFL3A-2.1K 2.1 kHz, 8-pole filter

2016-06-05 Thread Johnny Siu via Elecraft

Hello Elecraft,
I have a  KFL3A-2.1K  2.1 kHz, 8-pole filter surplus to my requirement.  My 
price is USD109 inclusive of shipping by registered air mail to major cities in 
the world.  The filter will come with all the installation hardware,
If interested, please email me off-the-list vr2xmc at yahoo dot com dot hk
73
Johnny VR2XMC
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding

2016-06-05 Thread Don Wilhelm


Joel,

Good progress.
Yes, the roofing filter is not usable with the 8kHz shift engaged.  This 
is not a firmware problem, it is a hardware problem.  Think of it this 
way - the "IF" for the KX3 is at baseband (audio frequency range), and 
that is where the roofing filter works - in other words, it is an audio 
range filter, but installed at the IF rather than in the audio chain.  
When the 8kHz shift is engaged, the "IF" changes to 8kHz and that is too 
high for the audio range roofing filter.


On the bonding, you are on the right path.  Bond along the path of your 
audio cables or along the paths of the coax.


You imply that you have several ground rods driven.  Unless they are 
connected back to the house Utility Ground rod, you may have a safety 
issue on your hands.
All ground rods should be connected to the Utility Ground by #6 
(minimum) or #4 (preferred) copper wire.  See the Safety chapter in the 
later ARRL Handbooks.
A fault in the AC wiring of your home or green-wire grounded appliances 
can cause a significant potential difference between isolated grounds, 
perhaps even lethal.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 6/5/2016 8:03 AM, Joel Black wrote:

Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing filter or was that fixed in a F/W update?


My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, 
NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as well? 
All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out a soffit 
vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod is bonded to 
house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in the middle of 
the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is over to the side 
and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not bonded but, from my 
reading, it should be.

Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you tell 
me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;)

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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[Elecraft] Fwd: Re: logging/k3s control program

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Subject:Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program
Date:   Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:53:29 -0500
From:   Kevin Stover 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

DX Lab supports log import/export in ADIF format.
Every Ham Radio logging program that I know of supports ADIF export/import.
If SOTA does not support ADIF import then it's a SOTA problem.

On 6/4/2016 5:27 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

I’m not sure that DXKeeper does *everything* one might want. It does not seem 
to support an easy export to SOTA (Summits on the Air) and it does not run on 
Mac. RUMlogNG does both of those.

Different strokes for different ops, I guess.

wunder
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On Jun 4, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

On Sat,6/4/2016 12:39 PM, Jerry wrote:

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

General loggers are lousy for contests, and contest loggers are lousy for general 
operating. The best "general" logger is DXKeeper, which is part of the DXLab 
Suite. The best contest logger is N1MM Plus. Both are FREE, both are quite stable, 
mature, and well supported.

DXKeeper has everything you could possibly want in a general logging program, 
including keeping track of awards, uploading and downloading to/from LOTW and 
eQSL. N1MM Plus is the Rolls Royce of contest loggers. It is mostly used for 
CW, SSB, and RTTY, but it supports software modules that do other digital 
modes. At the end of each contest, export your log as ADIF, then import it into 
DXKeeper. It's as easy as that.

DXKeeper is ONLY a logger and award tracker. It does not send and RX CW, or any 
other mode. But another module in the DXLab Suite do that for some RTTY, PSK, 
and some other modes, and another module called Commander does radio control 
from your computer.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3/PX3] Bonding

2016-06-05 Thread Buck via Elecraft


Here is the authority on the issue. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

Have you put ferrite on the cables from the iMac and the switching power 
supply?


You've used "star" grounding around the KX3.  Try bonding everything to 
everything - you want to provide a low-impedance parallel path from case 
to case everywhere there is a connection. So, there should be a bond 
between the soundcard and the iMac and the soundcard and power supply.   
Also the iMac and soundcard to the PX3.  Your diagram should look more 
like a spider web.


Are the interconnecting cables grounded to the chassis or the circuit 
board?  You'll have to open some things up and see if there is the "pin 
1 problem" where the cable's ground is on the circuit board and not the 
chassis.


I would look for a YouTube video on how to open up that iMac.  I am sure 
someone has posted one.


K4ia
Buck
Honor Roll 335
8BDXCC

On 6/5/2016 8:03 AM, Joel Black wrote:

I figured out most of my problems with all the spikes on the PX3 - the 
switching P/S in my iMac. To a lesser extent, I can hear the MFJ-4125 switching 
P/S I use to power the KX3 and PX3. I cannot remember if I tried looking at the 
spectrum using the Astron RS-35 as a power source and plugging in the 4125 or 
not. I will try that today. I did use the RX SHFT and was able to move a huge 
spike off the carrier. Does RX SHFT still nullify the roofing filter or was 
that fixed in a F/W update?

I’m pretty sure I can bond the KX3, PX3, and MFJ-4125 but I don’t have a *clue* 
how to bond the iMac. It’s a late 2012 27” iMac. It’s an all-in-one with *no* 
external screws. It’s the model with the “pregnant” bulge in the back. However, 
if it means I have to go to a Windows computer, I’ll live with the noise or 
build a Hackintosh. I also use this computer for other things - editing video, 
etc.

I *did* try my wife’s Mac Book Pro with the power supply plugged in and I did 
not notice the P/S noise on the PX3; however, her computer is not powerful 
enough to edit video unless you have time to wait. ;)

Just to make sure I understand what I need to do:

1. Bond the KX3 to the power supply.
2. Bond the KX3 to the PX3.
3. Bond the KX3 to the computer (somehow).
4. Bond the KX3 to the sound card (in my case, a Focusrite 2i2).

Trying to use ASCII to draw, I’m guessing it should look like this:

PX3KX3———MFJ-4125
   /   \
  / \
   iMac Focusrite 2i2


My KX3 antenna connection goes to a 4-way switch to switch between my OCF, 
NVIS, vertical, and dummy load. Does the KX3 need to be bonded to that as well? 
All of the feed lines run up through the wall, into the attic, and out a soffit 
vent to surge protectors attached to a ground rod. That ground rod is bonded to 
house ground. The OCF and the NVIS are on a fiberglass pole in the middle of 
the back yard. There is no ground rod there. The vertical is over to the side 
and is bonded to a ground rod there. That ground rod is not bonded but, from my 
reading, it should be.

Does this look/sound right? Please be critical. I cannot learn unless you tell 
me where I screwed up. I have pretty thick skin. ;)

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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[Elecraft] logging/control question - Many thanks!

2016-06-05 Thread Jerry

To all who emailed me directly and/or responded here. I have some very valuable 
feedback to sift through now and I'm sure I will choose one (or more) of the 
suggestions for a logging and control program.
73
Jerry, k1tgx
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Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program