Re: [Elecraft] AX1 today

[Wayne Burdick]

And thank you for getting outdoors to operate, Dan. That's the real reason for 
the AX line :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Sep 24, 2022, at 10:09 PM, Dan Presley  wrote:
> 
> All this discussion about the antenna caused me to carve out a little time 
> this afternoon to go to a suburban summit. Perfect setting for the AX1 as 
> there’s no good trees and since it’s also somewhat of a park -wires around 
> and in the air are frowned on. Also with limited time a quick setup and tear 
> down is important. My usual setup is a small lightweight tripod (light stand) 
> that goes to 6 feet and elevated radials (3 13’). I have alligator clips on 
> the end of the radials for easy attachment to anything like some grass or a 
> shrub. ATU in the KX2 hardly ‘clicked’ for a match. In 45 minutes  I worked 
> 22 stations (12 states),Japan and 4 ‘S2S’-summit to summit contacts on 20 and 
> 15 M CW 5 watts. Best report was 599 from OK..almost pulled off an S2S with 
> JH3PLL. Kept asking ‘N7??’ but we couldn’t quite pull it off. And everything 
> except the tripod packs into a small LowePro bag. Summit W7O/WV-099 if you 
> follow that. Thanks for a great product Wayne. 
> 
> 
> Dan Presley 503-701-3871
> danpresley@me. com 
> n7...@arrl.net
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable antenna

[Dan Presley]

No worries-it’ll make a nice winter project. Right now I’m taking full 
advantage of sunshine before the rainy season starts. 

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
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> On Sep 24, 2022, at 20:47, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't really have a good setup for making videos, but when I get the chance 
> I'll make one showing how I built it and how to set it up.  Might be a while, 
> though.
> 
>  73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
>> On 9/24/2022 7:29 PM, Dan Presley wrote:
>> Thanks Dave for the reply. That sounds like a great antenna and I’d 
>> definitely like to see a picture and maybe a bit more description if you’d 
>> care to. I enjoy playing with portable antennas and might try to build 
>> something like that over the winter. One that I put together last year was a 
>> two element vertical Yagi based on the article by a Japanese ham (forgot the 
>> call) in QRP quarterly a few years back. It uses a driven element and a 
>> quarter wave reflector,and the reflector uses a quarter wave matching 
>> section connected as a radial. Think of basically a ‘U’ shaped setup. The 
>> original was suspended from tree branches but I set it up for ground mount 
>> using two 20 foot small fiberglass fishing poles. It actually gave some 
>> reasonable gain on 20 and you could steer it a bit by moving the reflector.
>> For field day our club is QRP CW and two of us built a 2 element wire Yagi 
>> for 40 from an article in QST a few years back. We feed it with open wire 
>> line and because our site has very tall trees we have it up about 60
>> feet. This year we set it up as a sloper.  Killer antenna on 40 and actually 
>> loads and works quite nicely on 20 and 15.  We also put up a horizontal loop 
>> for 80 at the same height. We’ve either won or placed 2nd in our division 
>> for a few years. Nothing beats big wire,but when I’m hiking I gotta rethink 
>> everything and go small-thus the AX1/2 and simple wires.
>> 
>> Dan Presley 503-701-3871
>> danpresley@me. com
>> n7...@arrl.net
>> 
>> 
> 

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[Elecraft] AX1 today

[Dan Presley]

All this discussion about the antenna caused me to carve out a little time this 
afternoon to go to a suburban summit. Perfect setting for the AX1 as there’s no 
good trees and since it’s also somewhat of a park -wires around and in the air 
are frowned on. Also with limited time a quick setup and tear down is 
important. My usual setup is a small lightweight tripod (light stand) that goes 
to 6 feet and elevated radials (3 13’). I have alligator clips on the end of 
the radials for easy attachment to anything like some grass or a shrub. ATU in 
the KX2 hardly ‘clicked’ for a match. In 45 minutes  I worked 22 stations (12 
states),Japan and 4 ‘S2S’-summit to summit contacts on 20 and 15 M CW 5 watts. 
Best report was 599 from OK..almost pulled off an S2S with JH3PLL. Kept asking 
‘N7??’ but we couldn’t quite pull it off. And everything except the tripod 
packs into a small LowePro bag. Summit W7O/WV-099 if you follow that. Thanks 
for a great product Wayne. 


Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley@me. com 
n7...@arrl.net


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[Rick Tavan]

Actually, I've run YCCC SO2R Box and SO2R Box Utility on Win 11 ARM Preview
under Parallels Desktop on a Macbook Pro M1 Max without recompilation. They
talk politely to the hardware across a USB connection. However, they expect
two pairs of virtual COM ports to communicate with the logger (N1MM in my
case) via OTRSP. My old standbys, vspMgr and COM0COM, do not work in that
environment. However, Eltima has a Virtual Serial Port Driver in an ARM
version that works very simply and cleanly.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 8:08 PM Barry Baines via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

>
> That said, there is one caveat:   Windows ARM does not currently support
> natively USB devices other than such as items as Keyboards, Mice,
> Trackballs, etc.  For example, I cannot run a SDR device on the ARM because
> the device drivers don’t exist under ARM needed for SDR:  I use ZADIG to
> add drivers for SDR and it doesn’t work running Windows 11 ARM.
>
> I suspect that USB support for ARM will grow under time, but it remains to
> be seen whether software that uses USB attached devices that require
> special device drivers will work.  In my case, this means using data
> sources available via the internet rather than using a SDR device for
> over-the-air reception of data.  For example, I can use data collected via
> SDR attached to my Dell laptop and feed that data to Apple MBP M1 laptop
> running Windows 11 ARM via LAN to display the data.
>
> --

Rick Tavan
Truckee and Saratoga, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable antenna

[David Gilbert]

I don't really have a good setup for making videos, but when I get the 
chance I'll make one showing how I built it and how to set it up.  Might 
be a while, though.


 73,
Dave   AB7E


On 9/24/2022 7:29 PM, Dan Presley wrote:

Thanks Dave for the reply. That sounds like a great antenna and I’d definitely 
like to see a picture and maybe a bit more description if you’d care to. I 
enjoy playing with portable antennas and might try to build something like that 
over the winter. One that I put together last year was a two element vertical 
Yagi based on the article by a Japanese ham (forgot the call) in QRP quarterly 
a few years back. It uses a driven element and a quarter wave reflector,and the 
reflector uses a quarter wave matching section connected as a radial. Think of 
basically a ‘U’ shaped setup. The original was suspended from tree branches but 
I set it up for ground mount using two 20 foot small fiberglass fishing poles. 
It actually gave some reasonable gain on 20 and you could steer it a bit by 
moving the reflector.
For field day our club is QRP CW and two of us built a 2 element wire Yagi for 
40 from an article in QST a few years back. We feed it with open wire line and 
because our site has very tall trees we have it up about 60
feet. This year we set it up as a sloper.  Killer antenna on 40 and actually 
loads and works quite nicely on 20 and 15.  We also put up a horizontal loop 
for 80 at the same height. We’ve either won or placed 2nd in our division for a 
few years. Nothing beats big wire,but when I’m hiking I gotta rethink 
everything and go small-thus the AX1/2 and simple wires.

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley@me. com
n7...@arrl.net




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:51 PM, Bayard Coolidge, N1HO via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> About a month ago, I upgraded from an old (2015?) Intel i5-based MBP to the 
> new M2 MBP, and was able to migrate everything over to it seamlessly by 
> having the M2 import all of my bits from the TimeMachine backup. I've been 
> using RUMlogNG for years, and it works nicely with both WSJT-X and JTDX 
> *simultaneously*, with WSJT-X driving the upgraded K3 (near-K3s) operating 
> with the KXV3B on 630m and JTDX operating the K4D on the HF bands. I do not 
> have RUMlogNG do any rig control for me, however.
> I have 24MB of memory in this MBP, but I was operating with 16MB on the old 
> MBP just fine. I had a 250GB SSD on the old MBP, but splurged for 1TB on the 
> M2. However, I think you should be able to get by with 16/250 on an Apple 
> Silicon based machine unless you're planning to watch a movie or edit video 
> while you're working the bands :-) One trick that I pull is to have a 
> separate partition on a large USB drive (which is primarily used for 
> TimeMachine) to keep less-needed files, as well as the log files generated by 
> WSJT-X and JTDX. I simply created a symbolic link in the files for those two 
> apps to point to the right places on the USB drive.
> Only fly in the ointment I've encountered is that I run Parallels and it 
> upgraded to the latest version and then installed Windows 11 ARM for me. I 
> haven't played with it yet, so I don't know how much it will bog down the 
> system. *BUT*, be forewarned that Ham Radio DeLuxe is Intel-only and flatly 
> told me in their support forum that they do NOT intend to make an ARM64 
> version for Windows 11. I only use HRD as a backup log program to review my 
> awards standing (e.g., DXCC, WPX, etc.), and now do so on my Intel-based 
> iMac, but I plan to retire it eventually. I've never used it for rig control, 
> etc.

Please note that the current Windows-11 ARM OS that can be installed by 
Parallels 18 on a M1/M2 Mac can indeed run INTEL-based Windows Software.  I’ve 
been using it for several months to run INTEL software for railroad signal 
monitoring (ATCS) and it works seamlessly.  There was no problem transferring 
program files from a Dell Latitude machine and having the software run without 
modification.

Consequently, even though there may not be an ARM version of a Windows software 
package, it may still be possible to run it under Windows ARM using an 
INTEL-based Windows package.  

That said, there is one caveat:   Windows ARM does not currently support 
natively USB devices other than such as items as Keyboards, Mice, Trackballs, 
etc.  For example, I cannot run a SDR device on the ARM because the device 
drivers don’t exist under ARM needed for SDR:  I use ZADIG to add drivers for 
SDR and it doesn’t work running Windows 11 ARM.  

I suspect that USB support for ARM will grow under time, but it remains to be 
seen whether software that uses USB attached devices that require special 
device drivers will work.  In my case, this means using data sources available 
via the internet rather than using a SDR device for over-the-air reception of 
data.  For example, I can use data collected via SDR attached to my Dell laptop 
and feed that data to Apple MBP M1 laptop running Windows 11 ARM via LAN to 
display the data.  


FWIW,

Barry, WD4ASW


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kevin]

Good Evening,

   Happy autumn.  I hiked around today scouting out the next few loads 
of firewood.  I did not get a spider web in the face, it's not cool 
enough for that yet, but single strands crossed the trail.  I collected 
wood this week and found splitting it counteracts hours at a keyboard.  
I stand a little straighter now.


   The sun is covered with spots and is fairly active.  There are some 
auroras so there will be QSB and noise.  A few thunderstorms will add 
another note.  As the sun angle changes forty meters will change a 
little more, I may reach farther east.



Please join us on (or near):

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
 7047 kHz at z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)


73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS




-





Expecting is the greatest impediment to living. In anticipation of 
tomorrow, it loses today.



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[Elecraft] Portable antenna

[Dan Presley]

Thanks Dave for the reply. That sounds like a great antenna and I’d definitely 
like to see a picture and maybe a bit more description if you’d care to. I 
enjoy playing with portable antennas and might try to build something like that 
over the winter. One that I put together last year was a two element vertical 
Yagi based on the article by a Japanese ham (forgot the call) in QRP quarterly 
a few years back. It uses a driven element and a quarter wave reflector,and the 
reflector uses a quarter wave matching section connected as a radial. Think of 
basically a ‘U’ shaped setup. The original was suspended from tree branches but 
I set it up for ground mount using two 20 foot small fiberglass fishing poles. 
It actually gave some reasonable gain on 20 and you could steer it a bit by 
moving the reflector. 
For field day our club is QRP CW and two of us built a 2 element wire Yagi for 
40 from an article in QST a few years back. We feed it with open wire line and 
because our site has very tall trees we have it up about 60
feet. This year we set it up as a sloper.  Killer antenna on 40 and actually 
loads and works quite nicely on 20 and 15.  We also put up a horizontal loop 
for 80 at the same height. We’ve either won or placed 2nd in our division for a 
few years. Nothing beats big wire,but when I’m hiking I gotta rethink 
everything and go small-thus the AX1/2 and simple wires. 

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley@me. com 
n7...@arrl.net


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[Elecraft] For Sale - K3/0 Mini with Remote Rig 1258 Mk II K3 pair

[Edward Seeliger]

K3/0 Mini with Remote Rig 1258 Mk II K3 pair (with WiFi modules) for sale as 
packagePrice - $1250 plus shipping/insurance - Paypal, USPS money order, 
cashier check. Current firmware. Connecting cables, manuals.Original owner, non 
smoking. Sale is final - no return or refund.Edd - KD5M  eseeliger  at 
earthlink dot net
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[Steve L]

Caution when using this location:  Make sure your counterpoise is insulated and 
there’s no way to contact bare metal at this point with your hand when using 
the KX2 hand-held ‘walkie-talkie’ style.  I received a nice RF burn on my hand 
at this point once!  

Steve
AA8AF

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 3:37 PM, Dan Presley  wrote:
> 
> The other nice feature of the KX2 is the mini banana jack on the side of the 
> radio for attaching the counterpoise . It’s perfect for pedestrian mobile and 
> should you encounter some sort of snag it’ll pop out before the wire 
> breaks.Wayne can better comment than me,but I believe the resonance of the 
> AX1 (or AX2 I presume) it’s not right within the 20M band, but close. The 
> auto tuner easily takes care of matching and as Wayne mentioned earlier 
> compensates for all of the other variables. Just a note that the AX2 is a 
> single band coil and can be modified for different bands. Plus it’s even a 
> lot lower profile than the AX1.  
> If you want to see some fun videos of using the AX1 directly attached to the 
> KX2 search on YouTube for HB9BZG-SOTA from the Swiss Alps!
> 

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[Elecraft] K3 has ticking sound

[Ed Cole]

I thought this might be of interest:

I use my K3 for digital modes which requires a USB/RS232 conversion 
cable.  A couple years ago my FTDI cable quit working and also one I 
bought locally would not work.


I had a Western Mountain Nomic soundcard which came with a Prolific 
cable, so I tried it with my K3 and it worked (for awhile).


The computer would shut off the com port after running about 4-hours, 
and only way to restore was to plug into a different USB jack (and 
different com port).


Then, lately, my K3 would begin ticking whenever the computer was turned 
on.  It sounds like a mini relay being switched 2x per second.  Radio 
ticked whether turned on or off.  Only went away if I pulled the com 
cable or shut down the computer.  Almost had me wondering if Elecraft 
installed timer.


My first thought it was PTT being toggled, but PTT works normal even 
with radio ticking.  I could not find anything being affected as far as 
the radio functions.


So I reasoned the problem was the cable and ordered a new KUSB cable; 
arrived two days ago.  It works fine and no ticking.


73, Ed - KL7UW
PS: see my use of the Nomic with the KX3:
http://www.kl7uw.com/KX3_Computer_Interface.htm
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[G4GNX]

I’ve been running Parallels on my MBP M1 since I got it and it’s never slowed 
anything down. I use Windows 11 for writing C++ and programming STM devices. 
The main thing I don’t like about Windows 11 is that useful things such as 
Delete are in a sub-menu, rather than a straightforward right click. That and 
the lack of a proper delete key.

I won’t be using HRD or any other program that refuses to go with the times.

73,
Alan - G4GNX




> On 25 Sep 2022, at 00:51, Bayard Coolidge, N1HO via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> …...Only fly in the ointment I’ve encountered is that I run Parallels and 
> it upgraded to the latest version and then installed Windows 11 ARM for me. I 
> haven't played with it yet, so I don't know how much it will bog down the 
> system. *BUT*, be forewarned that Ham Radio DeLuxe is Intel-only and flatly 
> told me in their support forum that they do NOT intend to make an ARM64 
> version for Windows 11. I only use HRD as a backup log program to review my 
> awards standing (e.g., DXCC, WPX, etc.), and now do so on my Intel-based 
> iMac, but I plan to retire it eventually. I've never used it for rig control, 
> etc.
> 73,
> Brandy, N1HO

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[Bayard Coolidge, N1HO via Elecraft]

 About a month ago, I upgraded from an old (2015?) Intel i5-based MBP to the 
new M2 MBP, and was able to migrate everything over to it seamlessly by having 
the M2 import all of my bits from the TimeMachine backup. I've been using 
RUMlogNG for years, and it works nicely with both WSJT-X and JTDX 
*simultaneously*, with WSJT-X driving the upgraded K3 (near-K3s) operating with 
the KXV3B on 630m and JTDX operating the K4D on the HF bands. I do not have 
RUMlogNG do any rig control for me, however.
I have 24MB of memory in this MBP, but I was operating with 16MB on the old MBP 
just fine. I had a 250GB SSD on the old MBP, but splurged for 1TB on the M2. 
However, I think you should be able to get by with 16/250 on an Apple Silicon 
based machine unless you're planning to watch a movie or edit video while 
you're working the bands :-) One trick that I pull is to have a separate 
partition on a large USB drive (which is primarily used for TimeMachine) to 
keep less-needed files, as well as the log files generated by WSJT-X and JTDX. 
I simply created a symbolic link in the files for those two apps to point to 
the right places on the USB drive.
Only fly in the ointment I've encountered is that I run Parallels and it 
upgraded to the latest version and then installed Windows 11 ARM for me. I 
haven't played with it yet, so I don't know how much it will bog down the 
system. *BUT*, be forewarned that Ham Radio DeLuxe is Intel-only and flatly 
told me in their support forum that they do NOT intend to make an ARM64 version 
for Windows 11. I only use HRD as a backup log program to review my awards 
standing (e.g., DXCC, WPX, etc.), and now do so on my Intel-based iMac, but I 
plan to retire it eventually. I've never used it for rig control, etc.
I also had a minor problem porting 'flaa' to the new system, and had to forage 
for an as-yet unreleased version and compile it myself. But, once I did, it 
worked beautifully. Also, I was able to use the latest versions of 
nanovna-saverwith my nanoVNA-F, by doing a 'chmod +x' one time to make it 
executable, but I do have to invoke it from a command line in Terminal, and it 
takes a while to start up, even though I have the latest Python version 
installed.
I have not updated to Ventura yet, either - simply too busy doing other/fun 
stuff - but I'll be happy to assist as best I can.
73,
Brandy, N1HO


On Saturday, September 24, 2022, 02:26:00 PM EDT, David Christ 
 wrote:  
 
 Has anyone used a Mac Mini with a K3 or K3s?  How much RAM and how big an SSD? 
 I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have been 
looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been working?

David K0LUM

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest K4 order/shipping status

[David Herring]

Jeff, it means that everyone who had ordered a K4 up through April 15 of this 
year has been contacted that their K4 is about to ship or has shipped, etc. 

Keep watch on that date.  It changes as they build and ship more K4s.  Since 
you ordered in July, you have about 3 month’s worth of orders ahead of yours.  
I don’t know what the translates to in terms of an ETA, but it should not be 
real long (as compared to some of us who ordered early and waited 2+ years, but 
that’s another story…)

In case you are wondering, yes, it is absolutely worth the wait.

:-)

73,
Dave - N5DCH




> On Sep 24, 2022, at 5:03 PM, Jeff Cathrow  
> wrote:
> 
> Can someone explain Elecraft's K4 order/shipping status please?
> 
> I don't understand what "K4 Group 3 orders have been emailed through 4/15/22" 
> means, exactly.
> 
> I ordered a k4 on July 31st but was never told what "group" I was in.  Does 
> this mean I must be in Group 4 because I haven't been emailed at all yet?  I 
> suppose that also means my order will be filled  after 4/15 at the earlies, 
> too---correct?
> 
> I just want to have an idea without bugging the nice folks at Elecraft if I 
> don't have to...
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jeff, AK5B
> 
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
> behalf of elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2022 5:50 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest K4 order/shipping status

[Jeff Cathrow]

Can someone explain Elecraft's K4 order/shipping status please?

I don't understand what "K4 Group 3 orders have been emailed through 4/15/22" 
means, exactly.

I ordered a k4 on July 31st but was never told what "group" I was in.  Does 
this mean I must be in Group 4 because I haven't been emailed at all yet?  I 
suppose that also means my order will be filled  after 4/15 at the earlies, 
too---correct?

I just want to have an idea without bugging the nice folks at Elecraft if I 
don't have to...

73,

Jeff, AK5B


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[Elecraft] Wanted k3 items

[Larry Shapiro]

Hello all,
I posted a want ad for old KSYN3 boards,and received enough for a while.

Now still looking for old KXV3 or KIO3 boards.
Even need a few more Tuner delete boards..KANT3 .

Please let me know what is extra to your needs..
Buying and selling just about everything K3/K3S related,
Larry k6ro
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[G4GNX]

I started using a 2012 MacMini a short while ago, after my elderly Win7 PC 
sound card failed and it wasn’t worth fixing. The difference between my setup 
and your proposed one is that I have updated the MacMini to a server style 1TB 
SSD and more memory, so that I can leave it running 24/7 without worrying. The 
other thing I’ve done is to bootcamp it and I run Windows 10 on it. The reason 
for this is so I can run Log4OM which is a Windows based program and I believe 
that the MacMini USB capability is far more reliable and stable, even when 
running Windows. It’s been running without issue so far with my K3S, even with 
2 screens, but unfortunately programs like HamClock won’t run correctly, which 
I believe is because the author has made ‘illegal’ screen writes.

TBQH I don’t think that the expense of an M1 MacMini is justified for shack 
use, unless you’re going to double it up for apps that need that sort of speed 
and memory.

I will probably ditch Log4OM sooner or later, due to unfixed bugs and the fact 
that it uses OmniRig for CAT control. OmniRig only allows 2 rigs to be 
connected and I want more than that. If/when I do change my logging and CAT 
control, I’ll then have the choice of using it in Mac native mode or Windows or 
both. In fact I slipped up and took out a 2nd version of Parallels for my 
MacBook Pro by mistake and I may well install the 2nd iteration on the MacMini, 
which makes it very convenient to run MacOS and Windows simultaneously.

Like you, I’m looking at logging programs, although of course I don’t know 
whether our requirements are the same. I need CAT control via the logger for 4 
rigs minimum and I need a really good net control section, database sharing via 
Dropbox and ability to send QSO data to QRZ.com  in real time.

I’m interested to know what you think of RumLogNG and any other logging 
program/app you might be able to recommend.

73,
Alan - G4GNX




> On 24 Sep 2022, at 19:24, David Christ  wrote:
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> SSD?  I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have 
> been looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been working?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[Wes]

No, actually, what he said that you left off says things that counter your 
comments.

On 9/24/2022 1:47 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 9/24/2022 12:31 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
I haven't done much portable operation except for Field Day, and when I do I 
have access to tall trees for some pretty good wire antennas ... including 
wire yagis.


Dave,

This sentence says it all.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[James Bennett via Elecraft]

David,

I used a K3 up until about three months ago on my Mac Mini (intel-powered) with 
no problems at all. The K3 was sold and now the Mini is connected to a K4D, 
which also plays well on the platform. My Mini has 32GB on non-Apple Ram and 
the hard drive (SSD) is 1TB. OS is Monterey 12.5.1

Like another poster, I used MacLoggerDX (MLDX) for all of my logging and 
SkookumLogger for contesting - a great combination. Don at Dog Park Software 
has been super quick answering any questions I have on MLDX, in addition to 
providing quick fixes for some minor issues. Also, I have an IC-705 that shares 
my four keys, antenna, and MLDX.

Jim Bennett / K7TXA
Eagle, ID



> On Sep 24, 2022, at 12:24 PM, David Christ  wrote:
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> Has anyone used a Mac Mini with a K3 or K3s?  How much RAM and how big an 
> SSD?  I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have 
> been looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been working?
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> David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

The Elecraft radios play very well with Macintoshes. In fact, KPA500 code was 
developed (and still maintained) on a Mac mini. The various Elecraft Utilities 
for the K-Line work very well on macOS.

For general logging, be sure to check out MacLogger-DX. It is very well 
maintained with lots of features. For contesting there are a few choices. 
RumLog is one, but I prefer SkookumLogger from K1GQ. It is available (for 
free!) on the Mac App Store. Of course WSJT-X plays natively on the system as 
well for FT-4/8 and other weak-signal modes.

And, if you find you really need to run a Windows app, Windows plays very well 
on Intel Macs using VMware Fusion (also free) or one of the other 
virtualization systems.

73!
Jack, W6FB


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> SSD?  I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have 
> been looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been working?
> 
> David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[Dan Presley]

The other nice feature of the KX2 is the mini banana jack on the side of the 
radio for attaching the counterpoise . It’s perfect for pedestrian mobile and 
should you encounter some sort of snag it’ll pop out before the wire 
breaks.Wayne can better comment than me,but I believe the resonance of the AX1 
(or AX2 I presume) it’s not right within the 20M band, but close. The auto 
tuner easily takes care of matching and as Wayne mentioned earlier compensates 
for all of the other variables. Just a note that the AX2 is a single band coil 
and can be modified for different bands. Plus it’s even a lot lower profile 
than the AX1.  
If you want to see some fun videos of using the AX1 directly attached to the 
KX2 search on YouTube for HB9BZG-SOTA from the Swiss Alps!

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
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> On Sep 24, 2022, at 09:40, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> The wire drags behind you. This is why we sometimes call it a "dragged 
> counterpoise."
> 
> The wire supplied with the AX1, AX2, and AXE1 is quite slippery and unlikely 
> to snag on anything. I've dragged it between cacti in the deserts of New 
> Mexico; across serpentine outcrops along the Pacific coast; and though the 
> urban jungles of Belmont, California, bristling with spiky xeriscape.
> 
> W
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:41 AM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I'm curious about your pedestrian mobile statement.  What do you do with the
>> 13 foot counterpoise, does it drag behind you when walking? I doubt that you
>> can make a QSO without it.  Also with the 13 foot counterpoise, what 20m
>> frequency is the AX1 resonant on?
>> 
>> John KK9A 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Presley n7cqr wrote:
>> 
>> Second-I want to hear from Dave AB7E in particular what antenna(s) you use
>> when you're operating in the field,and specifically when you can't set up a
>> wire; maybe no trees or a bare summit, or as Thomas K4SWL talks about-when
>> you really don't or can't throw up a wire (check out his blog on recent
>> operations in Canada). Or pedestrian mobile. So far I've seen nothing that
>> is as compact,lightweight  and easily packable as the AX1 or 2, and that's
>> important to me when  I'm hiking. 
>> 
>> Dan Presley 503-701-3871
>> danpresley at me. com 
>> N7CQR at arrl.net
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT vs QSK

[K9ZTV]

Disregard.   Replying to a different message.

Kent

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 2:31 PM, K9ZTV  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[Andrew (A.J.) Stockton via Elecraft]

I have 11 yr old MacBook Air and a new Mac Mini M1.  Both work great with the 
KX3 and  MacLoggerDX!  I prefer MacLoggerDX for general logging and 
SkookumLogger for contesting.  Best 1 2 punch…
DM direct if you have more questions 
NK4O
A.J. Stockton

> On Sep 24, 2022, at 2:08 PM, Lee Hiers  wrote:
> 
> I have an old Mini, not an M1.  I've been using RumLogNG for years with no
> problems.  512G SSD 16G RAM.  Currently on Catalina.  I do keep my log data
> on a USB HD.
> 
> Use with K3 and KX3.
> 
> There is a FB group for RLNG.
> 
> Lee, AA4GA
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2022, 2:25 PM David Christ  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone used a Mac Mini with a K3 or K3s?  How much RAM and how big an
>> SSD?  I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have
>> been looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been
>> working?
>> 
>> David K0LUM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT vs QSK

[K9ZTV]

Thanks, Mike.   Good option. 

Kent



> On Sep 24, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:
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> I'm working with a piece of accessory equipment that relies on the "Key Out" 
> (PTT) signal to switch my transmitting antenna from my K3/KPA-1500 to an SDR. 
>  Am I right to assume, as appears to be the case, that when the K3 is in 
> VOX/QSK mode, the Key Out jack continues to behave as if it was in PTT mode - 
> that is, switching on before first RF and switching off after the PTT delay 
> has passed.  I may have missed it, but can't find this in the K3 manual.
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 PTT vs QSK

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

I'm working with a piece of accessory equipment that relies on the "Key 
Out" (PTT) signal to switch my transmitting antenna from my K3/KPA-1500 
to an SDR.  Am I right to assume, as appears to be the case, that when 
the K3 is in VOX/QSK mode, the Key Out jack continues to behave as if it 
was in PTT mode - that is, switching on before first RF and switching 
off after the PTT delay has passed.  I may have missed it, but can't 
find this in the K3 manual.


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73, Pete N4ZR
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web server at.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[Lee Hiers]

I have an old Mini, not an M1.  I've been using RumLogNG for years with no
problems.  512G SSD 16G RAM.  Currently on Catalina.  I do keep my log data
on a USB HD.

Use with K3 and KX3.

There is a FB group for RLNG.

Lee, AA4GA

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> SSD?  I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have
> been looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been
> working?
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[Elecraft] [K3] K3 MacOS M1 Mini

[David Christ]

Has anyone used a Mac Mini with a K3 or K3s?  How much RAM and how big an SSD?  
I am especially interested in which logging program you use.  I have been 
looking at RumLogNG but am not set on it.  How well has it been working?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[Wayne Burdick]

The wire drags behind you. This is why we sometimes call it a "dragged 
counterpoise."

The wire supplied with the AX1, AX2, and AXE1 is quite slippery and unlikely to 
snag on anything. I've dragged it between cacti in the deserts of New Mexico; 
across serpentine outcrops along the Pacific coast; and though the urban 
jungles of Belmont, California, bristling with spiky xeriscape.

W



> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:41 AM,   wrote:
> 
> I'm curious about your pedestrian mobile statement.  What do you do with the
> 13 foot counterpoise, does it drag behind you when walking? I doubt that you
> can make a QSO without it.  Also with the 13 foot counterpoise, what 20m
> frequency is the AX1 resonant on?
> 
> John KK9A 
> 
> 
> Dan Presley n7cqr wrote:
> 
> Second-I want to hear from Dave AB7E in particular what antenna(s) you use
> when you're operating in the field,and specifically when you can't set up a
> wire; maybe no trees or a bare summit, or as Thomas K4SWL talks about-when
> you really don't or can't throw up a wire (check out his blog on recent
> operations in Canada). Or pedestrian mobile. So far I've seen nothing that
> is as compact,lightweight  and easily packable as the AX1 or 2, and that's
> important to me when  I'm hiking. 
> 
> Dan Presley 503-701-3871
> danpresley at me. com 
> N7CQR at arrl.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[john]

I'm curious about your pedestrian mobile statement.  What do you do with the
13 foot counterpoise, does it drag behind you when walking? I doubt that you
can make a QSO without it.  Also with the 13 foot counterpoise, what 20m
frequency is the AX1 resonant on?

John KK9A 


Dan Presley n7cqr wrote:

Second-I want to hear from Dave AB7E in particular what antenna(s) you use
when you're operating in the field,and specifically when you can't set up a
wire; maybe no trees or a bare summit, or as Thomas K4SWL talks about-when
you really don't or can't throw up a wire (check out his blog on recent
operations in Canada). Or pedestrian mobile. So far I've seen nothing that
is as compact,lightweight  and easily packable as the AX1 or 2, and that's
important to me when  I'm hiking. 

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley at me. com 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna. Cudos for Wayne

[Jim Brown]

On 9/24/2022 3:09 AM, David Wilcox wrote:
I was an early TenTec follower too and miss them dearly. 


And so was I -- and founder Al Kahn who sold Electro-Voice, another 
great American company he co-founded in the '30s, did a lot to keep 
Heathkit and ARRL alive during WWII, and founded Ten Tec, with a factory 
across the road from EV's in TN.


In those days, Collins at the high price point, and Ten Tec and Drake at 
the lower point, were dedicated to quality. Everyone associated with 
those great companies has been in the ground for many years. Elecraft 
founders and Owners, Wayne Burdick and Eric Swartz, are their more than 
worthy successors. I currently own four of their radios and two of their 
power amps, and they're they are by far they best I've owned.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[Jim Brown]

On 9/24/2022 12:31 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
I haven't done much portable operation except for Field Day, and when I 
do I have access to tall trees for some pretty good wire antennas ... 
including wire yagis.


Dave,

This sentence says it all. Your experience and hamming is very different 
from theirs. I've done a bit of both, in a pretty wide variety of 
situations. Backpacking is VERY different, and that's part of what SOTA 
is all about. And every setup I've done, and I've done very different 
ones, applied what I knew about how stuff works to the specific problem 
I was trying to solve. THAT is what ENGINEERING is all about -- it is 
the definition of engineering. That was my day gig when I was working -- 
designing sound systems for specific uses for a specific space where 
they would be used. It's not about using ideal principals to an ideal 
problem.


W6GJB and I have set up QRP on ridge tops with a KX3, a wire taped to a 
telescoping pole, and a suitable length of #22 laying on low brush as a 
counterpoise. We worked four continents in 15 minutes. About 20 years 
ago, I used a similar setup with a K2 on 30M in a suburban park north of 
Chicago as part of a QRP night for our local club. I got through the 
pileup to work a DXpedition. Photo is at the top of my qrz page.


One of things i enjoy doing is surveying a ham's QTH to help him think 
about what antennas in what locations that can be rigged at HIS QTH, 
with HIS restrictions, optimized HIS operating goals, and HIS budget.


Wayne did a fine piece of engineering for the AX-1. It's not the ideal 
antenna for EVERY application, but it's a useful design for several 
forms of portable operation, especially if the user has bothered to 
learn enough about how antennas work to apply it intelligently.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[David Gilbert]

I haven't done much portable operation except for Field Day, and when I 
do I have access to tall trees for some pretty good wire antennas ... 
including wire yagis.


But I did make a portable vertical antenna that I can set up anywhere.  
It uses four 4' long 1/2 inch diameter aluminum tubes that fit together 
end to end, sitting on top of another 4' long 1/2 inch diameter graphite 
rod as a base.  Four radial wires act as guys for the top of the 
graphite rod, and four thin nylon lines act as guys about 2/3 of the way 
up the vertical.  The radials and the nylon guys lead to the same four 
stakes (or rocks, as the case may be).  I've timed myself and I can put 
it up by myself in about ten minutes, and everything fits in a backpack 
except for the five 4' lengths that I can easily carry as a bundle with 
one hand as I walk.  It feeds very easily with the tuner in my KX2.  It 
was of course designed for 20m, but I've also been able to get a good 
match with the tuner on 40m and 15m.


I couldn't care less about pedestrian mobile, and it's no more hassle 
for me to carry that antenna to set up somewhere than it would be to 
carry a hiking stick.  The heaviest antenna item in the backpack are the 
stakes.


I once set the antenna up on my deck and monitored PSK Reporter for FT8 
signals on 20m over the course of 24 hours.  I got hundreds of hits 
across the entire U.S., of course, but also dozens in Europe, dozens in 
southeast Asia, a couple in Africa, and 8 or so in central Asia.  I can 
send you the screenshot if you'd like.


Maybe some day I'll make a YouTube video of setting it up and making 
contacts to see how far I can get with it.


Dave  AB7E



On 9/23/2022 11:10 PM, Dan Presley wrote:

I wanted to revisit this discussion to add a perspective that I think needs to 
be considered. First,as far as modeling short verticals I believe it’s possible 
to use something like the ‘poor man’s’ AX1 that Doug Hendricks developed at 
Pacificon in 2019.  A group of us from Oregon went and participated in the 
build,and subsequently Doug posted the plans and parts list in the QRP 
quarterly. So if you don’t want to obtain or borrow an AX1 for testing here’s 
an inexpensive alternative. Build it and give us your results.

Second-I want to hear from Dave AB7E in particular what antenna(s) you use when 
you’re operating in the field,and specifically when you can’t set up a wire; 
maybe no trees or a bare summit, or as Thomas K4SWL talks about-when you really 
don’t or can’t throw up a wire (check out his blog on recent operations in 
Canada). Or pedestrian mobile. So far I’ve seen nothing that is as 
compact,lightweight  and easily packable as the AX1 or 2, and that’s important 
to me when  I’m hiking. Each part is no more than 6” in length or less. Oh-and 
by the way I just completed another’S2S’ (summit to summit) contact on 30M 
using the 40/30 add on coil with the AX1 with KR7RK from Oregon to AZ both at 
5W.
Personally I always prefer a wire antenna if possible-either an end fed or as 
is spelled out in the manuals for the KX3 and KX2, a length of wire about 25-28 
feet with a counterpoise. But sometimes it’s not an option. Share with us..I’m 
always wanting to hear what others do or build. How do you solve this?? Thanks.

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley@me. com
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On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:09, Wayne Burdick  wrote:


On Sep 22, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Jim Clymer  wrote:



On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 11:28 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
Yes indeed.

This is why you need an ATU when using such antennas. The ATU can correct for 
terrain, counterpoise length and deployment, body capacitance, conductors 
associated with other connected devices, etc.

Wayne

So that would lead me to believe that matching requirements for bicycle mobile 
with a trailing counterpoise would be a moving target.

I haven't tried that myself but yeah, probably.

However, radios like the KX2 and KX3 are tolerant of dynamic SWR variations. 
For example if you hit the ATU button at some point and the SWR goes to 1:1, 
then walk (or bike) over varied terrain that causes the SWR To vary from 1:1 to 
2:1, the radio won't complain. Only if the SWR gets really high will power 
rollback occur.

Without the ATU, and using an electrically short/narrowband antenna, you might 
see SWR vary from 1:1 to 10:1.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft AX-1 Whip Antenna

[Dan Presley]

I wanted to revisit this discussion to add a perspective that I think needs to 
be considered. First,as far as modeling short verticals I believe it’s possible 
to use something like the ‘poor man’s’ AX1 that Doug Hendricks developed at 
Pacificon in 2019.  A group of us from Oregon went and participated in the 
build,and subsequently Doug posted the plans and parts list in the QRP 
quarterly. So if you don’t want to obtain or borrow an AX1 for testing here’s 
an inexpensive alternative. Build it and give us your results. 

Second-I want to hear from Dave AB7E in particular what antenna(s) you use when 
you’re operating in the field,and specifically when you can’t set up a wire; 
maybe no trees or a bare summit, or as Thomas K4SWL talks about-when you really 
don’t or can’t throw up a wire (check out his blog on recent operations in 
Canada). Or pedestrian mobile. So far I’ve seen nothing that is as 
compact,lightweight  and easily packable as the AX1 or 2, and that’s important 
to me when  I’m hiking. Each part is no more than 6” in length or less. Oh-and 
by the way I just completed another’S2S’ (summit to summit) contact on 30M 
using the 40/30 add on coil with the AX1 with KR7RK from Oregon to AZ both at 
5W. 
Personally I always prefer a wire antenna if possible-either an end fed or as 
is spelled out in the manuals for the KX3 and KX2, a length of wire about 25-28 
feet with a counterpoise. But sometimes it’s not an option. Share with us..I’m 
always wanting to hear what others do or build. How do you solve this?? Thanks. 

Dan Presley 503-701-3871
danpresley@me. com 
n7...@arrl.net


> On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:09, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Jim Clymer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 11:28 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> Yes indeed.
>> 
>> This is why you need an ATU when using such antennas. The ATU can correct 
>> for terrain, counterpoise length and deployment, body capacitance, 
>> conductors associated with other connected devices, etc.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> So that would lead me to believe that matching requirements for bicycle 
>> mobile with a trailing counterpoise would be a moving target.
> 
> I haven't tried that myself but yeah, probably.
> 
> However, radios like the KX2 and KX3 are tolerant of dynamic SWR variations. 
> For example if you hit the ATU button at some point and the SWR goes to 1:1, 
> then walk (or bike) over varied terrain that causes the SWR To vary from 1:1 
> to 2:1, the radio won't complain. Only if the SWR gets really high will power 
> rollback occur.
> 
> Without the ATU, and using an electrically short/narrowband antenna, you 
> might see SWR vary from 1:1 to 10:1. 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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