Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

[kevino z]

Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters
73 DE KK4YEL

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> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan  wrote:
> 
> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide 
> to the Elecraft KX2.
> 
> Thank you!
> ^_^ Joan
> 
> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . . 
> 
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:
>> 
>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s 
>> manuals?
>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
>> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
>> manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and 
>> features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found 
>> during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people 
>> learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, 
>> some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on 
>> learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the 
>> concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had 
>> trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different 
>> antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made 
>> it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So 
>> the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The 
>> Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support 
>> for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, many 
>> diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver 
>> alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio 
>> operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls 
>> for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab 
>> exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand 
>> the concept.
>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf 
>> versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D=0
>>  has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of 
>> contents and ordering information.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> 
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
>> behalf of Mike Markowski 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>> 
>> Fred and all,
>> 
>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
>> what you've added?
>> 
>> Tnx es 73!
>> Mike ab3ap
>> 
>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> Hi Neil
>>> 
>>> No never did a K2 book.
>>> 
>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>> 
>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  
>>> Sorry about that too.
>>> 
>>> Fred KE7X
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Elecraft KX2 compared with the latest "Ultra Portable" (?)

[kevino z]

Not sure why there are so many haters out there. I wasn’t complaining about 
Elecraft, I was asking Wayne to consider a product line that has the potential 
to make a lot of sales, especially with the quality and love Elecraft puts into 
their work.

As already has been pointed out, linear satellites outnumber the FM birds. 

I assume those on the list own Elecraft products. Never saw this kind of 
negativity directed at another Elecraft brother or sister before. 

C’mon now. 

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Mar 1, 2018, at 18:55, Paul Stoetzer  wrote:
> 
> "Oh yeah, it will not do CW and SSB (only FM), but most of the LEO
> satellites are FM, so it would work for most all the satellite
> communications work available today.  That radio provided satellite
> credit at out last local club's Field Day."
> 
> This is incorrect. There are currently 4 active FM satellites and 11
> active linear transponder satellites.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>> To those wanting 144/432 MHz operation, perhaps Elecraft should increase the
>> KX2 price by $50 and pack a Baofeng 144/432 transceiver with the KX2.  Oh
>> yeah, it will not do CW and SSB (only FM), but most of the LEO satellites
>> are FM, so it would work for most all the satellite communications work
>> available today.  That radio provided satellite credit at out last local
>> club's Field Day.
>> 
>> If you want low power FM satellite communications, there are many choices
>> available.  I do have a Baofeng, but only use it when I am with a group of
>> friends at a hamfest and want communications capability.  The FT-817 (yes, I
>> do own one) is too heavy to carry with me on normal ventures.
>> 
>> OK, I am mainly an HF ham, and do not care much for the VHF/UHF stuff, I
>> only use it for local club conversations and for ECOM work with the local
>> network when it is activated.  Just so you know my orientation.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>>> On 3/1/2018 12:31 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3] wrote:
>>> 
>>> A number of customers considering the KX2 have asked us how it compares to
>>> the newly announced Yaesu FT-818. The latter is an updated ‘817, with a bit
>>> higher power output.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX2 compared with the latest "Ultra Portable" (?)

[kevino z]

Wayne if you guys made an all mode UHF VHF full duplex radio for satellite ops, 
you’d made a lot of people happy and fill an area that folks are having to buy 
two 817’s to accomplish
just my two cents
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Mar 1, 2018, at 12:33, Wayne Burdick 
> wrote:

A number of customers considering the KX2 have asked us how it compares to the 
newly announced Yaesu FT-818. The latter is an updated ‘817, with a bit higher 
power output.

In terms of form factor, the ‘818 is essentially unchanged from the ‘817. So 
it’s worth asking again: just how “ultra portable” can an HF radio be?

Here’s how the KX2 stacks up:


--- Half the size ---

  The KX2 occupies 24 cubic inches, vs. 52 cubic inches for the ‘818. With 
dimensions about that of a medium-sized HT, the KX2 is truly pocket-sized.


--- Half the weight ---

  At just 13 ounces, the KX2 weighs 60% less than the ‘818. For hikers or 
backpackers, this means well over a pound of total weight saved. The light 
weight of the KX2 is also compatible with extended hand-held operation.


--- Twice the power output ---

  The KX2 puts out up to 12 watts on 80-20 m and 10 watts on 17-10 m. This is 
roughly twice the FT-818’s max output (6 watts). The KX2 also includes highly 
effective speech compression (not included with the ‘818). Taken together, 
these advantages translate to more QSOs, especially in difficult conditions.


--- 50% more battery power ---

  The FT-818’s internal battery, at 18 watt-hours, has more capacity than the 
FT-817’s. But the KX2’s internal battery has still greater capacity -- 24 
watt-hours. This extra 50% allows you to operate longer between recharges.


--- One third the current drain ---

  Typical receive-mode current drain of the KX2 is 150 mA. The FT-818, at about 
400 mA, is nearly three times higher. The KX2’s lower current, combined with 
the larger battery size, works out to over 4 times longer operating time 
RX-only, or 2 to 3 times longer for typical transceive operation.


--- Built-in ATU ---

  The KX2 has a wide-range internal ATU option that allows multi-band use of 
ad-hoc field antennas, whips, etc. There’s no need to carry a separate antenna 
tuner, loading coils, or even coax: just attach a wire or collapsible whip 
directly to the radio, and let the ATU do the work.


--- DSP ---

  Unlike the ‘818 or ‘817, the KX2 includes digital signal processing (32-bit 
I.F. DSP). This provides a wide range of features typically found only on 
desktop radios, including: adjustable noise reduction and noise blanking, 
auto-notch, variable filter bandwidth/shift, audio peaking filter for CW, full 
stereo receive, and RX/TX EQ. You can even listen on both VFO A and B 
frequencies at the same time (dual watch).


--- Built-in data modes ---

  The KX2 offers built-in PSK31, PSK63, RTTY, and CW encode/decode, with text 
displayed on its alphanumeric LCD. CW and data-mode QSOs can even be logged 
internally, then sent to a PC when you return from a field outing. A computer 
can be connected to the KX2 via the supplied USB cable (for text 
display/keyboard) or via the headphone/mic jacks (for FT8 and other audio-based 
data modes).


--- Built-in mic, keyer paddle, and tilt stand ---

  You can use either an external mic (MH4) or the KX2’s internal mic. The 
internal mic is positioned optimally for HT-style operation. In CW and DATA 
modes, you can use an external paddle, or directly attach our KXPD2, which 
weighs only one ounce and uses the rig itself as the base. For table-top use, 
the KX2 features a fold-out tilt-stand. This creates a 3-point mount that also 
works well on rough surfaces (ground, rocks, etc.).


--- Large, easy-to-read display ---

  The KX2’s display is five times larger than the FT818’s, with separate VFO A 
and B fields, S/RF-meter and DSP passband graphic, icons showing operating 
state, and alphanumeric text capability. In addition, the KX2’s LCD is 
transflective; it is highly readable in direct sunlight. The backlight is 
highly efficient and can be turned off to further increase battery life.


The KX2 starts at $769, factory assembled. For additional details, see:

   
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A few notes on the KX3
--

The KX3 is a bit larger than the KX2, though still smaller/lighter than 
competing all-band portables. It includes the following additional features:  
160 and 6 meters; 2 or 4 meter optional internal transverter; nearly twice as 
many direct controls; and RX I/Q outputs for use with our PX3 panadapter or 
computer sound cards. The KX3 is available 

[Elecraft] KAT500 when used with KX3 and KXPA100

[kevino z]

My nominal setup is KX3 -> KXPA100 -> KPA500 -> KAT500.
Normally, my KX3 ATU is in bypass, and the KXPA100's tuner is too. The KAT500 
does all of the matching. But when I want to operate in QRP, do I throw the 
KAT500 in bypass, turn off  the KXPA100 (by the menu in the KX3? by the switch 
on the KXPA100?) and use the internal tuner in the KX3?

I have seen that the QRP levels are not enough to engage the relays in the 
KAT500, and I want to use band hopping on WSJT-X WSPR mode.

thank you for your advice.

Kevin (KK4YEL)
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 as a remote front panel for another KX2, KX3, or K3S?

[kevino z]

I’d really like to be able to use my KX2 to control my KX3. Is that an option 
or is only the K series the lucky one?


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> On Dec 21, 2017, at 20:42, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> A number of KX2 owners have asked whether they could use the rig as a 
> “terminal” to control a remote radio. This may be possible to a limited 
> degree. 
> 
> This can already be done with a K3, K3S, or K3/0-Mini. All three can do 100% 
> control of a remote K3 or K3S, including 1:1 display mapping.
> 
> On the smaller end of the scale, you can use a KX3 in “RIG CTRL” mode to do 
> limited control of a remote KX3, K3, or K3S. Page 28 of the KX3 owner’s 
> manual provides more information on this. A small number of basic functions 
> is provided, including VFO, band change, mode change, AF gain, etc. 
> 
> The rigs can be connected together with a null-modem TTL/RS232 cable (2 wires 
> + ground) or through a simple server app. Receive audio, mic, and keyer 
> paddle must be handled separately from the control stream.
> 
> The question is whether there’s enough interest to justify adding such 
> functionality to the KX2. Like the KX3, the KX2 would only provide certain 
> basic controls.
> 
> We’re open to discussion about this (on the list or to me privately). Please 
> include a short description of the application you have in mind. It could be 
> as simple as this: using a KX2 on one side of a large shack to control a 
> K3/K3S on the other side. This would be my motivation, since my primary work 
> computer is out of reach of the K3S setup. 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] 10 meter FM on the KX2?

[kevino z]

i think that would be a great idea. I still dream of the day Elecraft has an 
all mode portable so I can buy it for satellite work (hint hint, just in case 
you’re not aware that you would capture the hearts of thousands of portable 
satellite operators)

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On Nov 23, 2017, at 13:05, Wayne Burdick 
> wrote:

I heard from one of our UK customers that 10 meter FM would be very useful on 
the KX2, at least in his area. If there’s enough demand for this, we could add 
it.

The KX2 puts out 10 watts and has a built-in mic. Combined with a 10-meter whip 
it would work well as an HT on this band.

73,

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[kevino z]

I guess if every menu item had an applicable CAT command, it could be feasible. 
But I don’t think they all do, do they?
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Sep 27, 2017, at 07:52, brian 
> wrote:

Byron,

Absolutely not.  Functionality of KPOD is way too limited.

I think what he is envisioning is something like an optional detachable or 
attachable face plate (like the TS480) has.  It may be huge in size and for 
example might have individual band buttons, lots of knobs for other functions 
and maybe single function push button instead to press/tap multifunction 
buttons.  Maybe most of the buttons could be customized.

Such an offering could satisfy both worlds.  One world doesn't think they need 
any hardware interface and wants to run everything by computer.  The second 
world prefers a more traditional knob/button interface. Keep in mind the 
demographics.  Closely spaced small buttons and knobs are difficult for many 
older people to use.  Reading the small captions is also an issue.

The design of such a detachable interface that satisfies most would be a 
challenge.  It may be that there needs to be several different sized offerings. 
 Market size may be a real issue.

In either case, there would be no escape from some menus.  There is simply too 
much functionality to put everything on a hardware interface.

Keep in mind the FLEX history.  It started out as all computer control. Then 
they developed the Maestro hardware interface because many found the all 
computer interface lacking.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 9/27/2017 1:08 AM, Byron Servies wrote:
Hi there!

Isn't this the niche the K-Pod was supposed to fill?  Fully
programmable external control with additional outputs for station
control?

73, Byron N6NUL
(sorry for the dup, Emory)

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Emory Schley 
> wrote:

Ron, AC7AC, wrote, under another subject heading: "I'm not bothered by choosing 
between a dozen switches but sorting through half a dozen menu items to change 
one gives me a headache."

That pretty much sums up my attitude as well, and I've heard other hams– MANY 
other hams–  complain about menus, but I don't recall ever hearing anyone 
complain about excess knobs, buttons, dials, etc. Reading Ron's thoughts made 
me wonder out loud, why can't Elecraft or some third party make a "magic box" 
that would be completely impotent by itself, but with the capability to mate up 
to one of these small miniaturized wonders like the KX2 or KX3, and which would 
contain oodles of manual controls for virtually every function the parent rig 
is capable of providing?

This would NOT impact the normal functioning of the parent rig, but would act 
as an accessory for those who eschew menus and such, and who like their rigs 
bigger, bulkier and in more traditional formats. I envision a box of switches, 
buttons, knobs, perhaps even gauges that would be cable-fed (or wi-fied) from 
the little parent rig sitting behind the magic box. Its size would be whatever 
was necessary to accommodate the design and would resemble a normal-sized base 
station. You could conceivably have a separate control for each function the 
parent rig provides, or if logic dictated, then several controls might be 
multi-purpose.

Then an op could have the best of both worlds. He/she could use his/her KX2/KX3 
as a portable rig in the normal way, but when returned to the home station, it 
could be plugged back into the magic box to power it in a more expansive and 
convenient manner.

Elecraft seems to always be on the lookout for new products. Here's one they 
might be able to put on the market, up and running, quickly because most of the 
engineering has already been worked out for the parent rig.

Emory Schley
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 - speaker relays ssb transmission???

[kevino z]

You need to MONITOR level - read the manual and it has instructions.

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On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:05, "sniels...@nc.rr.com" 
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When I key my MH3 mic (on KX2) the radio keys, but also my speaker sends out my 
voice too.  I hear myself, loud, as I am transmitting.  What setting do I 
change to stop the transmission that I send, from come through the speaker too?

Steve - KI4EZL
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Re: [Elecraft] UV Discoloration of KXPD2

[kevino z]

What would be very cool, Wayne, is for you to release the STL files so folks 
could buy the guys from you, but 3D print their own in the color they like, out 
of ABS or another material.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Jul 21, 2017, at 22:37, Wayne Burdick 
> wrote:

Hi Luke,

This is normal. It has no effect on functionality.

When the 3D printing vendor we use said the plastic would gradually acquire a 
honey-blonde hue when exposed to sunlight, I thought:  Cool... we'll be able to 
tell who's really using their rigs outdoors :)  Maybe not yet in your case; 
still, I welcome you to the Order of the Golden Paddle.

I'd be interested in tapping your expertise if we use such materials in the 
future.

72,
Wayne
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On Jul 21, 2017, at 6:42 AM, Luke via Elecraft 
> wrote:

I had my KX2 sitting near a window for a couple of weeks and then noticed my 
KXPD2 had discolored quite a bit from the UV. Has anyone else experienced this? 
I'm a Product Test Technician for a company that deals primarily with molded 
plastics, and UV degradation is a problem we see frequently, but can be reduced 
through various methods (base material change, coatings, additives, etc). I 
could be wrong but it appears the KXPD2 is 3D printed? If so, perhaps a 
different variety/color of resin might reduce the amount of fading/yellowing 
due to sunlight. I think a black KXPD2 would look pretty sharp... ;-)

Thanks!

Luke
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Re: [Elecraft] Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

[kevino z]

Rig control enables split mode which is important. As was stated, you need to 
go into the device manager, ports, and see what comm port it is, and verify you 
have the correct one, baud, etc into the software.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:52, Richard Ferch 
> wrote:

The SignaLink has nothing to do with rig control. All it is is a
single-channel sound card, plus an external VOX circuit to generate PTT.
You don't need the VOX circuit with elecraft rigs, their own VOX works fine
in digital modes, so all you are getting from the SignaLink is the sound
card. You can get better sound cards for less, but if you already have a
SignaLink, you can use it as your sound card.

What you need for rig control is a serial port connection to the rig's
serial control port. The KXUSB is your best bet, or if you already have a
serial port or a USB-to-serial adapter, you can use a KXSER between the
serial port and the KX2.

In WSJT-X, for PTT you can simply use VOX, which does not require rig
control, or if you have rig control working, you can have the rig control
do the PTT. Apart from that, what rig control really gives you is frequency
control. In addition to giving you instant band changes and avoiding
logging contacts on the wrong band, rig control also enables WSJT-X's Split
capability, which tunes the rig's dial frequency automatically in order to
keep the audio tones you are using between 1500 Hz and 2000 Hz. This helps
avoid transmitting spurious signals created by audio harmonics, and it
ensures that the transmitted power does not drop off towards the edges of
the receiver bandpass.

Rig control is certainly worthwhile, but it needs something separate from
the SignaLink.

73,
Rich VE3KI

KB2SMS wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm using a Signalink because I have one and bought
the appropriate cable for it. My issue is with the com port apparently.
WSJT-X won't let me select one, it just says "USB" with no other choices.
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Re: [Elecraft] Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

[kevino z]

Have you tried using FLrig? I use FLrig with my KX2 and KX3, then FLdigi talks 
to FLrig.
Also, make sure your comm port is the right one. I assume you’re on windows, 
but you didn’t mention. So, which OS are you on?
-Kevin (KK4YEL)


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On Jul 21, 2017, at 08:10, Tommy 
> wrote:

  Hi folks,

Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep getting a 
"/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to rig" error. I have the 
right cables and jumper module in the signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's 
supposed to work), USB and VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and 
handshake NONE. No matter what I do I still get the error.

Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this difficult. Any 
help appreciated.

Tom - KB2SMS

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Re: [Elecraft] mic

[kevino z]

Although headsets like my Heil Pro 7 may be more money, am I really "wasting" 
money on buying a "fancy brand name"  considering the unit consists of mic and 
incredible speakers? It is a complete package. Besides the amazing electret 
mic, the sound from the headphones helps me to enjoy the hobby more and allows 
me to pick out signals I would not be able to without them. I don't think you 
meant to, but your post came off as if we bought some snake oil.

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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> On Jun 11, 2017, at 10:41, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> Bob and Jim have excellent points.
> 
> There is one advantage for the electret mic compared to a dynamic
> mic.  Electrets are generally 26 dB "hotter" than a dynamic mic
> and thus are much more resistant to common mode RF feedback and
> magnetic coupling.  However, that assumes the transceiver is
> designed for the higher input level and properly reduces gain
> before the mic gain control.
> 
> Mics of any kind - dynamic or condenser/electret - with wide frequency
> response are completely wasted for amateur radio (or any communications
> application).  You really want a clean 200 Hz - 4 Hz response.  Lower
> frequencies cause distortion and waste power, higher frequencies are
> simply lost in the "channel noise".
> 
> Like Bob and Jim, I spent my professional life in the recording and
> broadcast industries.  Amateurs waste far too much on over spec'd
> microphones and fancy "brand name" advertising campaigns.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 water resistant case

[kevino z]

I think the Pelican 1200 is a better fit for the KX2 or KX3, since it gives 
room for the Mic and the paddle (and heatsink if you have one).
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Jun 10, 2017, at 19:42, nate t  wrote:
> 
> I have a "B Outdoor cases type 1000" pelican style case that ($30 on 
> amazon) I'm working on building into something like this: 
> http://swling.com/blog/2015/11/scotts-elecraft-kx3-go-box/
> 
> I would trust it in the rain, but not out on a river. Plastic seems a bit 
> cheaper than Pelican brand...lacks what I'm assuming is fiberglass 
> reinforcement that the Pelicans have.
> 
> Quick google search shows the Pelican 1120 has a good fit for the KX2 by 
> itself - http://radiopreppers.com/images/KX2_1120.jpg 
> 
> Amazon has the Pelican 1120 for $25 bucks, with the optional bright colors 
> (yellow,orange,etc) which would be useful if it falls in the drink. Pretty 
> cheap price of peace of mind IMO.
> 
> 73 N8BSD
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Stephen Peterson  wrote:
>> 
>> For a rafting trip down Cataract Canyon of the Colorado I was looking for a
>> water resistant case for the KX2.  Walmart came through with an "Outdoor
>> Products,  Watertight Case-Small, model 185OP".  The case is an almost
>> perfect fit for the KX2 with just enough room for the paddles, earbuds, and
>> power cable.  Under $6.
>> 
>> Steve, Ki7L
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Re: [Elecraft] 6 meters is open

[kevino z]

Which was it ? 1000 watts ? Or 8 w?

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On Jun 5, 2017, at 15:17, GWK > 
wrote:

Band dead in Maine.

73 - George, W3HBM


On 6/5/2017 2:58 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Wayne, thanks for heads up.  Nothing open here in Fish Creek, WI.  Am 
monitoring 50.125.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc.

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 1:54 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
>
Subject: [Elecraft] 6 meters is open

Just made a couple of 1000-watt QSOs around 50.125 (SSB and CW). Not exactly 
exotic DX, but not bad for 8 watts and a dipole at 25 feet.

If you haven’t tried 6 meters before, now would be a good time :)   See 
dxmaps.com for updated propagation info. You can set up an 
account to generate alerts via email.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion

[kevino z]

Was the fire a result of the lithium battery or leaving a charger unattended 
while charging? I am not sure, but the charger I have has a temp probe that 
gets strapped on the LiFePo4 battery pack, and monitors it during the charging 
(in addition to balanced charging).
It is a sad event, that is for certain, and I am not criticizing...


-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On May 18, 2017, at 12:05, Richard Fjeld  wrote:
> 
> Thank you very much for this advice.
> 
> I have often heard of fires due to Li-on batteries, but I have no idea of the 
> nature of the ‘fire’.  In other words, do  they burn, or do they explode 
> scattering ignited fragments.
> 
> Knowing this would help in finding a safe container for charging them.  It is 
> not practical to always avoid leaving  them unattended while charging.
> 
> I’d like to know more about the bag someone mentioned, and if cooling is a 
> problem.
> 
> Rich, n0ce
> 
> From: William Lagerberg
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:30 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) I 
> do all my thing for the hobby there.
> A collega of mine asked me to take a look at two Go-Pro LI-Ion accu's because 
> they where not loading anymore.
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] [KX2] can't feed with signalink

[kevino z]

I took my KX2 with me instead of my KX3. I hooked up the signalink exactly the 
same. However, when the signalink starts "transmitting" (i.e. PTT red LED lit), 
the KX2 is not transmitting, and when the signalink finishes, the KX2 displays 
"connect data to mic jack." 

I searched on the web and didn't see a clue. Can someone please tell me what is 
this about and how do I get the signalink to work with the KX2? 

And maybe Elecraft can possible document this error in a FAQ or user manual?

Thanks 
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Heatsink [which is entirely sufficient for typical operation]

[kevino z]

I like the way the way the VE7FMN heat sink I bought for my KX3 looks. Now that 
the PAs are on the side of the KX2, I just don't feel the same about the 
appearance of the heat sinks I've seen for it. Kind of look lopsided.

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On May 14, 2017, at 16:02, Kevin - K4VD > 
wrote:

Thanks Wayne. I bought the heat sink for the KX3 and found it wasn't needed
for the way I operate. Seems the same for the KX2. Normal conditions don't
require additional heatsinking. Extreme conditions might.

73,
Kev K4VD

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Wayne Burdick 
> wrote:

Hi Kevin,

We have shipped many thousands of KX2s, and in all that time I have seen
only a few comments asking about additional heat sinking.

The KX2’s thick right side panel is thermally integrated with both the top
and bottom cover. This results in heat sinking that is entirely adequate
in all modes at full power, even from a 14 volt external supply. When
running from internal battery (11 V), heat dissipation is further reduced
for a given power level.

To put a rough number on this: I just ran my KX2 at 10 watts key-down in
CW mode, into a dummy load, while watching the PA temperature (using the
DISP switch function). It took well over 7 minutes for the temperature to
reach the limit (63 C), at which point power was reduced automatically to 5
watts. If you persisted in operating key-down, the radio would eventually
exit transmit mode. Starting temperature was 25 C (shack ambient).

Additional heat sinking might be desirable if you’re going well beyond
“typical” operation: e.g., trying to run full power key-down for many
minutes at a time, repeatedly, in a hot car or in direct sunlight. In that
case, you have other options besides using supplemental heat sinking:
reduce power, run from a lower supply voltage (like the internal battery),
move into the shade, roll down the car windows, etc.

But for the overwhelming majority of our customers, the KX2’s thermal
design is completely up to the task. Note that the heat sinking is
intentionally designed to heat up the right end of the enclosure, so that
when using the rig like an HT (holding the non-antenna end), you’ll barely
feel any increase in warmth.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



Kevin - K4VD wrote:

From a recent post:

"We have been told by people running the rig in digital modes at 10W the
unit will thermal down after a few transmit cycles"

I understand the KX3 also had an early issue with heatsinks that was
corrected in time by the company making the aftermarket heatsink
unnecessary I think? I wonder if Elecraft has acknowledged the issue and
is
correcting it for the KX2 also?






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Re: [Elecraft] Taking KX3 on Airlines -Any issues/hassles with TSA/etc there days - with Bio-Engg 12V 7Ah Lithium Battery as Carry On Luggage

[kevino z]

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

I've brought my KX2 with internal battery numerous times within CONUS. not sure 
if Hawaii is any different. Don't have batteries for my KX3, but I did travel 
to Europe several times as carry on in pelican case without incident.

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

-
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, 
while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

On May 14, 2017, at 11:57, Michael Aust 
> wrote:

Just trying to plan the logistics for taking a KX3 with me
on the Airlines


Mike
WB6DJi




-Original Message-
From: Michael Aust >
To: elecraft >
Sent: Sun, May 14, 2017 8:47 am
Subject: Taking KX3 on Airlines -Any issues/hassles with TSA/etc there days - 
with Bio-Engg 12V 7Ah Lithium Battery as Carry On Luggage


Taking KX3 on Airlines -Any issues/hassles with TSA/etc  here days - with 
Bio-Engg 12V 7Ah Lithium Battery as Carry On Luggage


USA to Hawaii


USA oversea's


Any recent traveler's experience with Airport screeners ?


etc


Mike
WB6DJi





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Re: [Elecraft] OT: not bashing a product just a warning to future purchasers.

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I will state this: there are only two companies in this hobby that I would buy 
a product from without worry, and with the comfort that product quality, 
customer support, and customer care would follow: Elecraft, and QRPLabs. Plain 
and simple.

Even though I've spent lots more $ with Elecraft (imagine that),  I  have built 
and operate 2 QRPLabs U3, 1 U3s, their entire Band Pass Filter line, and more. 
Never a problem, and Hans has always been a great help. Reminds me of the 
attention I get when I call and speak to the amazing team at Elecraft.

I'm going to honor the recent reminders from the mods and ask that this thread 
be closed. One complain, one rebuttal, and the company had its chance to have 
their say.  Please close this thread.
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On May 6, 2017, at 04:40, Hans Summers  wrote:
> 
> Dear Gerald
> 
> Well if that isn't product bashing, I don't know what is... you are
> entitled to your opinion, but in the rare event of a dissatisfied customer
> we prefer if you contact us directly with your problem, rather than post
> vague critiicism in a public and un-related forum. I feel the need to set
> the record straight on a few points, and apologise for the bandwidth here
> in the Elecraft forum where the original post should never have been
> posted; hence the "OT" prefix to the post.
> 
> Firstly for background - QRP Labs was started properly, in April 2013.
> Since that time we have shipped out almost 40,000 kits across our range, in
> 9,500 orders, to thousands of customers globally. The products are very
> highly appreciated and have received good reviews in major amatuer radio
> publications around the world; the most recent US publications are QST
> November 2016, QST May May 2017, and TSM (The Spectrum Monitor) May 2017
> http://www.thespectrummonitor.com/
> 
> We ship from Japan for, what were at the time, my personal reasons. But it
> makes no difference - they have to ship from somewhere, and they are
> intended for everyone, not exclusively for US kit builders! In fact we have
> shipped packages to 69 countries worldwide. That's 69 post office entities,
> not DXCC entities which would be a much higher count ;-)   Every order
> confirmation sent out since April 2013 has requested feedback from the
> customer on when the package arrives. A proportion of people do provide
> this feedback and this has enabled us to openly publish statistics on
> shipping times, which you can see on the website at
> http://qrp-labs.com/shipping - and further information on shipping is
> available at http://qrp-labs.com/faq#shipping so there should not have
> needed to be any surprises. A pleasant side-effect is that shipping from
> Japan is very reliable and inexpensive, Japanese international airmail is
> cheaper for example, than sending something domestically within the UK and
> many other countries.
> 
> You ordered two 50-ohm 20W Dummy Load kits http://qrp-labs.com/dummy at a
> price of $8.50 each which I believe is the least priced dummy load kit
> anywhere. This is also one of our simplest to assemble and use kits. I am
> at a loss to understand your comment about the part leads bending under the
> component's own weight! The resistors in the kit are 20pcs of 1K 1W
> resistor, there is no way those chunky resistor wires bend easily! In all
> the kits we use good quality components, all through-hole - usually
> 1/4-Watt resistors but in some kits 1/6-Watt where physical space
> constraints dictate, or the 1W resistors where higher power is needed. The
> capacitors are NP0 types with Class-I low loss RF dielectric. All the PCBs
> are professional quality two-layer with through-hole plating, soldermask
> and silkscreen.
> 
> The dummy load design is just 20x 1K resistors in parallel to make 50-ohms,
> sandwiched between two PCBs... I don't think it gets much easier than
> this... and we also receive very good feedback on the assembly and
> operating instructions for all the kits, which are very comprehensive.
> Additionally for people than run into difficulties we have a QRP Labs email
> group at https://groups.io/g/QRPLabs , and direct email support from QRP
> Labs, as well as a free repair service as the last resort.
> 
> You need only type "QRP Labs" into Google to get an idea of the great
> reputation the kits have earned. Blogs, web pages, videos, etc.
> 
> Regardless of whether I can understand your reasons, QRP Labs wants
> customer satisfaction, and clearly you are not satisfied. Gerald. Therefore
> I have refunded in full, the $22 you spent ($8.50 x 2 for the kits, and $5
> shipping). I trust that this will go some way to resolving your
> dissatisfaction. It is the first time in 9,493 orders for QRP Labs kits
> that I have received a complaint like this, and needed to refund the
> purchase.
> 
> Vy 73 de Hans G0UPL
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[kevino z]

I asked Eric and David once about the idea of a sat radio. I believe their 
response was that Elecraft was great at HF, and HF was where they were 
concentrating on. 

That being said, not sure why, out of the blue, after 10 years, they decided to 
resurrect the 1500 W amp project and see it to fruition.

I know one thing, anything Elecraft does is done with careful thought. If the 
day comes when elecraft makes a satellite all-mode, full-duplex rig, it will be 
a home run. Linear, digital, and FM satellites with an Elecraft in my hands... 
One can dream...

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 


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> On May 5, 2017, at 19:17, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Phil,
> 
> Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into 
> VHF, UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of 
> engineers, also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may eventually 
> take hold.  I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF based on the 
> Elecraft design features to include features such as full duplex, etc.  I 
> don't know what the market for such equipment might be, but they might wish 
> to respond to our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment and they could 
> allow space for modules to be added which would include even higher freq 
> stuff for those who wanted it. 
> 
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
> Hystad
> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
> To: Elecraft 
> Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
> 
> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
> but thought to ask this question instead.
> 
> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly 
> a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
> MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is 
> necessary (IMO).
> 
> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
> far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
> hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
> for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] Artifacts in headphones when monitoring my transmitted CW

[kevino z]

I just got my Heil Pro 7 iC hooked up to my KX3. I made sure the Mic Bias was 
on, and set my monitor level to 5. Whenever I transmit CW (even with 0 W out), 
there is a strange artifact that happens as the Dit and Da's finish, kind of 
like they have a very short burst of a chirp or similar sound as they are 
finishing the transition from on to off.
Sorry, it's quite hard to describe. As I change the WPM to about 25 or so, the 
effect appears to go away, I am assuming because the time between the 
transmitted CW is reduced. However, it is quite noticeable and annoying around 
15-20 wpm, where I am hoping to be at.

I tried it with a simple pair of earbuds and the artifact is there too, so I do 
not believe it to be related to the choice of headphones. 

Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on what it may be?
And more of importantly, how to minimize / get rid of it?

Thank you 
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with KX3

[kevino z]

After speaking to Bob Heil, he recommends the Pro 7 iC. Is it possible that all 
of the bad experiences described here were with the PRO 7 with the hC7 Dynamic 
element ? Just thinking folks had the wrong mic element...

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> On Apr 28, 2017, at 09:27, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> The Heil HC-7 mic element has a very low output level.  Several others have 
> had problems with it.  To make matters worse, Heil recommends that the K3 
> microphone gain range should be set to Low, when in fact it needs to be set 
> to the High Gain range.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 4/28/2017 8:30 AM, David Wall-NA4AE wrote:
>>  I recently tried to use a Heil Pro 7 (HC-7) element with my KX3.  Also, 
>> with the Heil adapter cable AD-1-KX3.  Re adjusted the Mic Bias (off) and 
>> Mic Btn (off).  Had very poor results.  Could not get the "Echo" out and a 
>> basic noise.  Tested extensively using another KX3 and a K3 as the test 
>> receiver.  We truly went thru a series of test changing CMP, and EQ. Yes we 
>> even cut the MON off.  Could not get the problems corrected with settings.  
>> Sent it back to Heil and they tested it and said it was OK.  Being the good 
>> company that they are, they sent me a new system.  It did the same thing. 
>> So, I gave up and took it back to HRO.  They refunded me with no problem.  I 
>> then ordered a Heil "ProSet-ic" set up for the KX3 from Elecraft. So far it 
>> seems to work fine.  I don't know what the problem is that the Pro-7 (HC-7) 
>> wouldn't work with the KX3, but there is something that is not compatible 
>> with the HC-7 element.  I would have liked to have had a Pro-7 rather than 
>> the ProSet, b
> ut
>>  I couldn't get to work.  The Heil AD-1-KX3 cable is what you need to adapt 
>> the headset to the radio with a PL-59 (1/4")connection for a PTT switch 
>> (foot,hand etc). also has the TRR plug for the Mic connection.
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[Elecraft] [KX3] Using Heil Pro7 with KX3 / KXPA100 / PX3 combo

[kevino z]

Is anyone using the KX3 / KXPA100 / PX3 with a Heil Pro7 ?

I'm curious if I need to buy adapters or anything (other than a foot switch) as 
I know the PTT will be disabled or the plug shorts out the TRRS Mic socket in 
the KX3. I assume there is a way to hook the footswitch to the system (via 
KXPA100?)



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[Elecraft] OT - operating QRP at same park

[kevino z]

A friend and I both had our KX2 transceivers and some resonant end fed 
antennas. He was on 15m and I was on 20m. Our antennas were placed about 30-40 
feet apart, as slopers with the radiating ends up 30+ feet in the air using 
Jack-kite poles. The plane of the antenna's slope were perpendicular to each 
other.
We were both on 10w SSB.

Every time one of us keyed up, the other person's KX2 would experience a nasty 
noise from the signal. Pre-amp was off, as was attenuator. My question is this: 
Would the use of some bandpass filters have helped us? This is a situation we 
are trying to resolve before operating QRP in a similar park for a QSO party.

If more distance between the antennas would have helped, what is the proper way 
to determine the needed separation? 

I read the other day about someone in a car using 3 or 4 Elecraft radios with 
antennas on the roof, so I imagine there has to be a way.

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

[kevino z]

Yes, the packtenna pole is amazing, I used it throughout Europe this past 
summer.   My European friends recognized it as one made in  Germany.
You can't go wrong with anything George and the Packtenna crew have. 

Another choice for hotel balconies that travels nicely is the AlexLoop. 

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Apr 2, 2017, at 21:32, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:
> 
> I can vouch for the Packtenna one...I bought the last one they had brought
> to Dayton last year. Fits easily into a suitcase and extends to 10m.
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:48 PM Bill Rowlett  wrote:
>> 
>> The MFJ 2286 Big Stick Vert. may be what you are looking for. Nocks down
>> to about 28” and extends to 18’
>> I have used it as a 20 meter GP. works well.
>> 
>> 73 Bill  KC4ATU
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a fiberglass kite pole made by Jackite, and sold at E-Commerce
>> sites everywhere.
>> 
>> Mine is 31' extended, between 3 and 4 feet collapsed.
>> 
>> 73 -- Lynn
>> 
>> On 4/2/2017 3:10 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
>> BTW...
>> 
>> http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is
>> cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93
>> 
>> http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...
>> 
>> 73, steve WB3LGC
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
>> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>> 
>> 
>> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
>> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
>> luggage.
>> 
>> 
>> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>> 
>> 
>> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
>> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
>> it's length
>> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
>> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
>> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
>> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> WB6DJI
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Weighted Knob

[kevino z]

Well, they must only hit trail when it is perfect weather. I'd gladly trade a 
few oz for some weatherproofing or should I say, weather friendly engineering. 
A smaller KX3 was nice, but a smaller KX3 that had no open holes in it, or 
places for the occasional raindrop, dirt, leaves, branches, sand to get into it 
would have been amazing. 
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> On Apr 1, 2017, at 08:19, Chip Stratton  wrote:
> 
> Thank goodness for the lightweight knob. I would think the designers were
> nuts if a designed for trail use radio like the KX2 came with a weighted
> knob. Its amazing how the ounces add up when packing your gear up a trail.
> 
> Chip
> AE5KA
> 
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:30 PM, Christopher Hoover 
> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Our goal for the KX2 was to make it really lightweight. Light enough to
>>> be used as an HT.
>> 
>> 
>> Is it really practical as an HT?   Some will use it that way for sure, but
>> it is already quite heavy without an antenna.
>> 
>> I really like my KX2, but, with respect,  I'm unconvinced the HT use case
>> is worth trading heavily against the more  practical use cases.
>> 
>> -- Christopher
>> 73 de AI6KG
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In response to various comments on the KX2 knob (today and earlier):
>>> 
>>> Our goal for the KX2 was to make it really lightweight. Light enough to
>> be
>>> used as an HT. Goat-optional on longer hikes.
>>> 
>>> Even 1 ounce of additional weight can increase fatigue when holding a
>>> device (try, for example, carrying around an iPhone 7 vs. an iPhone 7+).
>> So
>>> we designed a low-profile plastic VFO A knob that is big enough to get
>> the
>>> job done.
>>> 
>>> Another reason not to use a heavier knob is that the KX2’s VFO encoder is
>>> itself a compact unit that has a sleeve bearing. Weighted knobs should in
>>> general be used only with heavier, ball-bearing style encoders. On this
>>> encoder, a heavy knob would shorten the rotational life.
>>> 
>>> Regarding adding a dimple: I’ve tried knobs this size with dimples and
>>> found that they were hard to use. A matter of taste and fingertip size, I
>>> guess. Meanwhile, the present knob can be “spun” to a certain degree by
>>> putting light finger pressure on the rim.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Future KX3/KX2 accessories?

[kevino z]

I second linear satellite enhancements
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Mar 30, 2017, at 00:01, Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft 
> wrote:

Here's your chance to get us back into the lab :)  What future accessories, 
antennas, etc. would you like to see for the KX-line?




I'd like a 2M and 70CM transverter for working the linear satellites. Ideally 
it would be capable of full-duplex operation with reverse VFO tracking, but I'd 
settle for being able to use it half-duplex. A lot of folks use one or two 
FT-817NDs as the foundation for their portable satellite station, and it would 
be nice to be able to do that with the KX3 or KX2. While an internal unit would 
be more convenient, an external unit would offer the possibility of working 
with both the KX3 and KX2, and a larger connector (BNC, N, or SO239) for use 
with typical beam antennas.

I might buy an iambic or single-lever paddle that connects to the KX3 with the 
paddles pointing to the left. To use the KXPD3 without my wrist cramping up, 
I'd have to turn the KX3 90 degrees to the left.

More programmable function keys for storing macros or menu items would be 
useful on the KX3. Maybe hold PF2 then press any other button to access the 
programmable function stored there. The same approach could be taken with the 
KX2's single PF button.

More DVR memories would be useful, even if they draw from the same memory 
storage, e.g., if the total stored time for all messages was limited to 30 
seconds or less. Even just one more memory would be incredibly helpful for 
Field Day and other contests:  call, CQ, and exchange.

73, Ryan AI6DO
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] paddle always keys

[kevino z]

found it - had to tap the 1 on the numeric key when the CW WGHT menu is up. Not 
so intuitive. Maybe a better menu entry dedicated to this could be considered?

kevin



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Subject: [Elecraft] [KX2] paddle always keys

On my KX3, when I have the onboard KXPD3 connected and am in SSB mode, the 
paddle will not send out CW. But on my KX2, it will, regardless of mode. What 
menu setting am I overlooking? As I accidently hit it with the mic cord, in the 
middle of a SSB QSO and it starts sending CW...

thanks,
Kevin (KK4YEL)

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[Elecraft] [KX2] paddle always keys

[kevino z]

On my KX3, when I have the onboard KXPD3 connected and am in SSB mode, the 
paddle will not send out CW. But on my KX2, it will, regardless of mode. What 
menu setting am I overlooking? As I accidently hit it with the mic cord, in the 
middle of a SSB QSO and it starts sending CW...

thanks,
Kevin (KK4YEL)

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 reboot only on JT modes?

[kevino z]

I think when you switch from the KX3 to the KXPA100 during transmit (by 
crossing the - I believe - 12w threshold) it also reboots the kx3

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On Mar 21, 2017, at 14:49, rich hurd WC3T > 
wrote:

Okay, here's an odd one and I couldn't find any suggestions in the archives
or using Google-fu.

I can run any mode with my KX3/PX3/KXPA100 station with no incident except
for JT modes; using WSJT-X, I will complete a Tx cycle and randomly the KX3
will bounce (power off/power on.)
9 times out of 10, I'm operating at 3W.   I'll sometimes bump to 5.  To
test this, I have also bumped it to 11 watts to kick the amp in and I get
the same reaction; that is, sometimes (but not always) the station just
decides it's had enough and the power bounces.   Power supply is a Samlex
SEC-1223.

ALC is within tolerance, MIC BTN is off, it's operating in DATA A and VOX
is set on.

I'm kind of running out of things to try.  Any thoughts?

BTW, I am getting out there; PSKReporter shows activity so I'm putting the
fire in the wire.  It's just this power thing is flakey.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 pins

[kevino z]

I'm assuming some sort of test port. Not really evident. If someone knows 
please share...
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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 03:40, Dave AD6A  wrote:
> 
> Yep!
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Bryan
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 12:18 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 pins
> 
> Does anyone know what the pins exposed on the back of the KX2 are for?
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Re: [Elecraft] Traveling Power Supply for KX2?

[kevino z]

Yeah, Pro Engineering is the best! 
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> On Mar 13, 2017, at 17:59, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Take a look at the Pro Audio Engineering power supply.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 3/13/2017 5:06 PM, Keith Gordon wrote:
>> I've had a KX2 for about 3 weeks now -- and I haven't turned on my
>> ICOM-7300 since.  Having way too much fun with the KX2 on hill tops,
>> practicing for SOTA.
>> 
>> I also got the KX2 for use when I travel (corporate pilot) and am wondering
>> if anyone knows of a power supply to use, say in a hotel room, that
>> wouldn't be much larger than a cell phone charger or laptop power supply.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> 
>> 73, Keith S Gordon
>> K7KSG
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[Elecraft] [kx2] temperature compensation procedure for kx2 ?

[kevino z]

Is there the ability or even need to perform the temp compensation / 
calibration procedure in the kx2 like I did on my KX3?

Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] MARS on KX3

[kevino z]

I used my KX3 on Army MARS without incident. Had no problems with MARS ALE or 
any of their digital modes (M110A).
But I left due to family health issues.
all you have to do a supplier Mars call sign to Ella craft and they will send 
you the proper software to unlock frequencies - executable runs on an MS 
Windows box only, if I remember correctly. Good luck and thanks for your time 
supporting MARS.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Feb 3, 2017, at 13:13, Aaron K5ATG 
> wrote:

I'm looking into possibly getting involved in MARS. The guy that runs it
locally sent the following question about the KX3:
Can the Elecraft KX3 be opened to permit full operation from 1.8mHz to
29. mHz and do they have installed TCXO (0.5%) frequency stability or
the ability to install the hardware. MARS requires frequency
accuracy/stability to be +/- 20Hz of center frequency on assigned channels
for transmit.
Is this possible with the KX3? If so how?
Aaron K5ATG
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Re: [Elecraft] Tuning procedure for KX3, KXPA100 and KAT500?

[kevino z]

Shouldn't the only tuner being used in this configuration be the KAT500? You 
should have any tuner in the KX3 and KXPA100 in BYPASS mode, not MANUAL.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Jan 25, 2017, at 21:29, Bill Johnson > 
wrote:

I have this setup.  It works well.  I would suggest a menu change to 5 watt
tuning with the KX3.  Do not tune everything at once.  Big error.  Do you
have a tuner in the KXPA100?  If so set on "Man" then tune the KX3 into the
KAT500.  This will stop what you are seeing.  Too many tuners going at once
will cause what you are seeing.  If that doesn't work, turn off the KX3
tuner and use only the Kat500.  Once tuned the rest should work.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tuning procedure for KX3, KXPA100 and KAT500?

Thank you to the three people that responded to this so far but each of you
accused me of having my friend run three tuners in a row. The KX3 turns it's
tuner off when it senses the KXPA100 is connected and turned on. There is a
setting in the MENU to turn off the tuner in the KXPA100 which we did and
have to keep watching as the equipment keeps wanting to turn it back on. The
problem we are having is tuning the KAT500. Hi SWRs are sent back to the
KXPA100 and it trips out. I was hoping there is someone out there that is
making this work. I have a K3S myself and a KAT500 and they work perfectly
together at 25 watts for tuning than the full 500 watts after it is tuned.
My friend does not have a K3S so we need to make the KX3 and KXPA100 work.

Thank you

KEN.  W0CZ
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On Jan 25, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Kenneth Christiansen 
> wrote:

Hi to the group

I have a friend with the following equipment.
KX3 with built in tuner.
KXPA100 with built in tuner.
KPA500
KAT500
50 ft of LMR400 coax
R9 vertical.
The KPA500 is not in the circuit at this time.
We try to tune the KPA500 using the station set for 20 watts and a hand
key.
The KXPA100 often kicks out. The SWR of the KAT500 changes quite a bit
over a tuning cycle and I think that is what is causing the trouble.

Is anyone else using this combination of equipment and can give us some
guide lines on setting up each piece of equipment and a procedure to tune up
the KAT500 without hurting the KXPA100?

Thanks to anyone that can help as this has turned into an expensive
problem that has destroyed three pieces of equipment.

Ken.  W0CZ
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Re: [Elecraft] (OT redoux) MAG LOOP ANTENNAS

[kevino z]

I just wish Alex would release the motor to control the tuning...
-Kevin (KK4YEL)


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On Jan 23, 2017, at 14:13, Fred Jensen 
> wrote:

Good to know.  I've never tried my Alexloop inside the house, but for an 
all-round portable antenna it meets the requirements of size, ease of 
set-up/take-down, and working well at QRP-ish power levels.  The tuning problem 
is mitigated by the fact that I usually sit directly under it when it's mounted 
on the tripod and I can just reach up and adjust it.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County


On 1/23/2017 5:21 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
Fred,
Well put and useful.I can though testify that the AlexLoop can work
amazingly well from inside a frame house and even a stone house as I have
tried this.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and paddle for digi modes, display TX text

[kevino z]

If I'm not mistaken, Win4kSuite will do this.
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Jan 22, 2017, at 08:58, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dieter,
> 
> Now your post IS readable...:-)
> 
> The PX3 is of course the most obvious choice but using a PC I think FLDIGI 
> will certainly do the job. Just use the sidetone the KX3 produces. Route one 
> audio channel on the stereo phones output to the sound card input of the PC 
> and use the other to drive a headphone or speaker.
> 
> 73,
> Peter PA0PJE
> 
> 
> Op 2017-01-22 14:08 schreef ddillenbur...@web.de:
>> Hi all,
>> second try to ask a KX3 question and digi modes.
>> Loving CW I'd be interested in using my paddle for TX text when in any digi 
>> mode - so have other
>> CW enthusiasts had any luck to configure digi mode software (e.g. FLDIGI or 
>> any other)to display tx text
>> while using their paddle?
>> Yes, of course there is the KX3 display to do this - but guess a PC screen 
>> seems more comfortable here.
>> Many thanks for a suggestion,
>> 73, Dieter
>> DJ6FO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Set-up for WSJT-X

[kevino z]

I meant prompted for the password, not promoted...
good luck and good night.
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On Jan 5, 2017, at 22:21, John Stengrevics 
<jstengrev...@comcast.net<mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Kevin,

I was told I wouldn't need to download any drivers.

When I type the command into Terminal, all I get is "permission denied."

John
WA1EAZ

On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:04 PM, kevino z 
<z_kev...@hotmail.com<mailto:z_kev...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

On a Mac, the serial ports are listed under /dev (devices).

I assume you downloaded and installed the drivers for your KUSB from here 
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
And then connected up the cable.

Do you know how to open a terminal on OS X ?  If so, when the KUSB cable is 
connected, you can check with a command that lists the devices in /dev

See this page for a general understanding and example 
https://software.intel.com/en-us/setting-up-serial-terminal-on-system-with-mac-os-x


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On Jan 5, 2017, at 21:33, John Stengrevics 
<jstengrev...@comcast.net<mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Don,

The equivalent - System Information - doesn't give the Com Number.  In fact, 
Apple tech support said I need to get it from Elecraft.

If there is anyone who has set their Mac up to work with the K3S, I would 
appreciate your input.

Thanks,

John
WA1EAZ

On Jan 5, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Don Wilhelm 
<donw...@embarqmail.com<mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>> wrote:

John,

I don't know the Mac, but it should be similar to Windows.
Go to the Mac equivalent of Device Manager, and unplug the USB cable - see 
which "COM Port" goes away.
Then plug the USB cable back in and observe which COM port is added.
Tell WSJT-X which COM port it should use.

No additional driver should be required unless the COM port shows an error.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/5/2017 7:48 PM, stengrevics wrote:
Two very basic questions as I am just getting started:

1.  How do I determine the COM number or Serial Port Number to enter in the
Radio Tab? (I am using a Mac)

2.  I only want to use the computer to operate WSJT-X, no need to control
anything else.  Do I need to download a driver of some kind?

Thanks,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Set-up for WSJT-X

[kevino z]

I can't remember if I downloaded the drivers or not. Perhaps your user is not 
elevated / privileged ? When you go to the System Preferences, click Users & 
Groups, and see what the current user is, does it show Admin or Standard?
If standard, you may need to put
 sudo
In front  of the command, for example
   sudo ls /dev/cu.*

And then you will be promoted for the Admin password.
Maybe half of your problem is your user is not privileged and can't install the 
comm port?

Just some ideas...
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Jan 5, 2017, at 22:21, John Stengrevics 
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Hi Kevin,

I was told I wouldn't need to download any drivers.

When I type the command into Terminal, all I get is "permission denied."

John
WA1EAZ

On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:04 PM, kevino z 
<z_kev...@hotmail.com<mailto:z_kev...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

On a Mac, the serial ports are listed under /dev (devices).

I assume you downloaded and installed the drivers for your KUSB from here 
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
And then connected up the cable.

Do you know how to open a terminal on OS X ?  If so, when the KUSB cable is 
connected, you can check with a command that lists the devices in /dev

See this page for a general understanding and example 
https://software.intel.com/en-us/setting-up-serial-terminal-on-system-with-mac-os-x


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On Jan 5, 2017, at 21:33, John Stengrevics 
<jstengrev...@comcast.net<mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi Don,

The equivalent - System Information - doesn't give the Com Number.  In fact, 
Apple tech support said I need to get it from Elecraft.

If there is anyone who has set their Mac up to work with the K3S, I would 
appreciate your input.

Thanks,

John
WA1EAZ

On Jan 5, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Don Wilhelm 
<donw...@embarqmail.com<mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>> wrote:

John,

I don't know the Mac, but it should be similar to Windows.
Go to the Mac equivalent of Device Manager, and unplug the USB cable - see 
which "COM Port" goes away.
Then plug the USB cable back in and observe which COM port is added.
Tell WSJT-X which COM port it should use.

No additional driver should be required unless the COM port shows an error.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/5/2017 7:48 PM, stengrevics wrote:
Two very basic questions as I am just getting started:

1.  How do I determine the COM number or Serial Port Number to enter in the
Radio Tab? (I am using a Mac)

2.  I only want to use the computer to operate WSJT-X, no need to control
anything else.  Do I need to download a driver of some kind?

Thanks,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Set-up for WSJT-X

[kevino z]

On a Mac, the serial ports are listed under /dev (devices).

I assume you downloaded and installed the drivers for your KUSB from here 
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
And then connected up the cable.

Do you know how to open a terminal on OS X ?  If so, when the KUSB cable is 
connected, you can check with a command that lists the devices in /dev

See this page for a general understanding and example 
https://software.intel.com/en-us/setting-up-serial-terminal-on-system-with-mac-os-x


-Kevin (KK4YEL)



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On Jan 5, 2017, at 21:33, John Stengrevics 
> wrote:

Hi Don,

The equivalent - System Information - doesn't give the Com Number.  In fact, 
Apple tech support said I need to get it from Elecraft.

If there is anyone who has set their Mac up to work with the K3S, I would 
appreciate your input.

Thanks,

John
WA1EAZ

On Jan 5, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Don Wilhelm 
> wrote:

John,

I don't know the Mac, but it should be similar to Windows.
Go to the Mac equivalent of Device Manager, and unplug the USB cable - see 
which "COM Port" goes away.
Then plug the USB cable back in and observe which COM port is added.
Tell WSJT-X which COM port it should use.

No additional driver should be required unless the COM port shows an error.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/5/2017 7:48 PM, stengrevics wrote:
Two very basic questions as I am just getting started:

1.  How do I determine the COM number or Serial Port Number to enter in the
Radio Tab? (I am using a Mac)

2.  I only want to use the computer to operate WSJT-X, no need to control
anything else.  Do I need to download a driver of some kind?

Thanks,

John
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[Elecraft] PA / ANT errors

[kevino z]

I have a kx3 --> kxpa100 -> kat500 hooked up. Both the kx3 and kxpa100 have 
internal tuners in bypass mode. With the  kat500 in manual mode,  I press the 
tune button on the kat500 to force a tune. When I press the XMIT button on the 
kx3, I often get an error on the kx3. It complains about an antenna or PA 
error. It doesn't do this if I place the KAT500 in bypass and use the kxpa100's 
tuner. So I'm wondering why I am getting these errors, as (even after getting 
the error) the tuner sees 1.2 or less SWR. It's more of a pain in the butt, 
because I have to do a few more button presses to clear the error and use the 
kx3.

Ideas ?

If you're wondering why I have it this way, it's because my KPA500 is going 
back to elecraft for transformer hum (or it would be between the kxpa100 and 
the KAT500).

-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] incredible hum from PA

[kevino z]

Nope. I have one at work and it is quiet. Something is different with this one. 
As I stated in my original post, I'm confident that Elecraft will make this 
right. They are great folks over there.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Dec 20, 2016, at 12:12, Ron D'Eau Claire 
> wrote:

I believe most of the noise comes from the steel bottom of the kpa500.

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Charlie T, K3ICH
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 4:40 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] incredible hum from PA


"No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !"

Yeah, but you have to realize, electrons LIKE to run around madly.  They
LIVE for the opportunity to be driven by that strange (to them)
electromotive force, regardless of whether it's in one direction (DC) or
back and forth (AC), just as horses luv to run.
They live basically a very nomadic life, jumping from one nucleus to
another. They get sluggish if not driven regularly.  This is why old stock
vacuum tubes can fail while just sitting on the shelf.
Electrons also appreciate the applause as horses do when they perform, but
seldom get to enjoy it.  So, when you make them run, at least provide a
little noise so that know they're well liked.  Hmmm, maybe THAT"s why the
transformer hums?

More to the point of the subject, I wonder if it would have been possible to
use a brass bolt or maybe even nylon mounting hardware for the big toroid?
Probably not worth the effort is a simple re-tightening can fix it.
( You'll just have to provide some outside method of showing your
appreciation to the electrons for their efforts.)

73 Charlie k3ICH



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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] incredible hum from PA

[kevino z]

Nice! 
Sadly, torquing it down to the spec (it was assembled by Elecraft just under 
the spec, by the way) made zero difference. But your post made me smile so 
thank you. Haven't done that since I got the amp powered on.

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

> On Dec 20, 2016, at 07:42, Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:
> 
> 
> "No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !"
> 
> Yeah, but you have to realize, electrons LIKE to run around madly.  They
> LIVE for the opportunity to be driven by that strange (to them)
> electromotive force, regardless of whether it's in one direction (DC) or
> back and forth (AC), just as horses luv to run.
> They live basically a very nomadic life, jumping from one nucleus to
> another. They get sluggish if not driven regularly.  This is why old stock
> vacuum tubes can fail while just sitting on the shelf.
> Electrons also appreciate the applause as horses do when they perform, but
> seldom get to enjoy it.  So, when you make them run, at least provide a
> little noise so that know they're well liked.  Hmmm, maybe THAT"s why the
> transformer hums?
> 
> More to the point of the subject, I wonder if it would have been possible to
> use a brass bolt or maybe even nylon mounting hardware for the big toroid?
> Probably not worth the effort is a simple re-tightening can fix it. 
> ( You'll just have to provide some outside method of showing your
> appreciation to the electrons for their efforts.)
> 
> 73 Charlie k3ICH
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] incredible hum from PA

[kevino z]

Thanks Ron. I'll open it up and measure it with a torque wrench. Then wait for 
Elecraft tech support to call back. Sometimes it's a drag living on the East 
Coast :-(
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Dec 19, 2016, at 22:53, Ron D'Eau Claire <r...@cobi.biz> wrote:
> 
> Joe might be right but contact Tech Support first. The transformer is held in 
> place with a single large bolt through the center (it is a torodial 
> transformer). If that bolt is not tightened properly the magnetic field will 
> produce a huge vibration. Even if you did not build the amp from the kit, 
> it's a pretty simple job to tighten that bolt. Tech Support can lead you 
> through the process. It is also described in the kit assembly manual 
> available on the Elecraft web site here;
> http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740149%20KPA500%20Kit%20Assembly%20Manual%20Rev%20F6.pdf
> 
> See pages 36 and 37. 
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W1GO 
> (Joe)
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:19 PM
> To: kevino z
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500] incredible hum from PA
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> Yes.  had the problem.  Crazy loud hum / buzz.  Bad transformer I was told.  
> All quiet on the eastern front now.  If it is a bad transformer it can be 
> fixed but you’ll have to eat the shipping charge.
> 
> Joe
> W1GO
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 9:10 PM, kevino z <z_kev...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Just got my KPA500 and KAT500. I hooked the PA up to 240v (well, my Mains 
>> are 248v), so I made sure the assembled PA has the yellow transformer tap, 
>> from the factory.
>> When I engage the amp, there is a crazy buzz. I use a KPA500 at work, but it 
>> is on 120v and I never hear this buzz. Before I swap fuses, and switch over 
>> to 120v to test, does anyone else have this issue?
>> The KPA500 is hooked up to a KX3/KXPA100 combo, just in case someone would 
>> ask.
>> Thanks
>> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
>> 
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[Elecraft] [KPA500] incredible hum from PA

[kevino z]

Just got my KPA500 and KAT500. I hooked the PA up to 240v (well, my Mains are 
248v), so I made sure the assembled PA has the yellow transformer tap, from the 
factory.
When I engage the amp, there is a crazy buzz. I use a KPA500 at work, but it is 
on 120v and I never hear this buzz. Before I swap fuses, and switch over to 
120v to test, does anyone else have this issue?
The KPA500 is hooked up to a KX3/KXPA100 combo, just in case someone would ask.
Thanks
-Kevin (KK4YEL)


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[Elecraft] [KX3] speaker volume - what are my options

[kevino z]

I find my KX3 speaker volume too low. Besides headphones, what are my options? 
Are folks using external powered speakers ? I tried one suggested on the 
reflector or yahoo a few weeks ago, but it sounded horrible. Why is the KX3 
speaker so low?
I checked that the attenuator is off. I checked that RF volume was maxed. I 
checked the antenna was matched with the tuner. The volume is still too low.
Any ideas to make the volume louder, even when at my home QTH (i.e. where power 
is not a challenge)?

Thanks 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fldigi Mac no TX Audio

[kevino z]

In the K3S menus, Have you verified the selection for Mic Select : rear mic, 
front mic, or line in? Having it set to the wrong input could make same 
symptoms you experience. Don't ask how I know :-) 

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> On Nov 12, 2016, at 22:43, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> 
> Do you have *anything* plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3S?  If so, that 
> overrides audio from the internal CODEC.
> 
> I don't know Apple, but I do know the K3.  Go to your computer's soundcard 
> gain and set the slider for the soundcard output to about 2/3 of maximum.
> THEN - during the Fldigi transmit, set the K3S LINE IN level to produce 4 
> bars solid with the 5th bar flickering on the ALC meter.  That is the proper 
> drive level.  Note that for the K3/K3S, this is the NO ALC point.
> Adjust the desired power with the power knob.  Ignore the internet advice to 
> use the audio level to adjust the power - the K3/K3S is different than most 
> transceivers in its power control mechanism.
> 
> BTW, you can do those transmit adustments with the K3/K3S in TX TEST mode so 
> no RF is generated - keep the airways clean of "tuneup signals".
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 11/12/2016 8:54 PM, a45wg wrote:
>> Fellow Elecrafters,
>>I am trying to do some Digital modes but using the computer/Software
>> 
>> 
>> I am running a MacMini, with K3-S. Software is a Fldigi  (3.23-13 latest as 
>> of today).
>> 
>> Wiring - 1 USB cable from K3-S to MacMini.
>> I am using the RIGCat interface.
>> Configure->Sound Card -> Audio is set to USB Audio Codec (See below for 
>> device confirmation)
>> K3-A is in DATA-A mode.
>> 
>> PTT-KEY is set to OFF-OFF (mentioned in the k3.xml right file)
>> 
>>QSY Works
>>Mode Works
>>RX Works - nice decoding on the Computer screen
>> 
>> But no TX Output. The K3-S red TX light is on - but nothing ….
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Re: [Elecraft] Computer Boot Up Keys the K3S

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Do you have it on vox mode, and perhaps the K3S sound card is set to default 
sound device  (and windows startup sound is triggering the Vox)?

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When I boot up my computer it keys the K3s Radio. I seem to remember there
is a setting in the K3s Radio to prevent this?

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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 firmware with minor bug fixes (rev. 5.56) - looking for testers

[kevino z]

Joe, it seemed to fix it for the K3S at work. I'll do some more testing Monday. 
Please send detailed steps you performed and I'll emulate and report back. 
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Oct 28, 2016, at 15:48, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 10/28/2016 12:03 PM, Jim - N4ST wrote:
>> Alas, I downloaded the K3S Beta 5.65B software and installed it, but it did
>> NOT fix the muting problem for me when operating split mode with WJST-X.
> 
> In which case, HRD is probably sending some other command that changes
> DSP settings during transmit.  You will probably need to document what
> commands HRD is generating in response to WSJT-X and work with Elecraft
> to determine which of those commands results in DSP changes.  The 5.56
> beta changes were in response to documentation of commands by Commander
> and another software package with the K3.
> 
> I'd start with all commands from about 2 seconds before x:00 until x:05
> since HRD is so unpredictable and commands could be delayed or out of
> order.
> 
> *Any* application should know not to change things like split status,
> mode (including data sub-mode), sideband, transmit VFO, etc. while
> in transmit - whether directly or via an intermediary like Commander
> or HRD but, as we've seen, application programmers tend to be sloppy
> and not consider how the rig will react.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> 
>> I was using WSJT-X 1.7 dev 7005.
>> I dropped back to the public release WSJT-X 1.6 and that did not work
>> either.
>> Using HRD 6.3.0.585
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Jim - N4ST
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Burdick
>> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 12:10
>> To: Elecraft Reflector 
>> Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 firmware with minor bug fixes (rev. 5.56) -
>> looking for testers
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We're looking for volunteers to test the latest K3 field-test firmware.
>> Please review the recent release notes below.
>> 
>> If you'd like to do testing because you'll be affected by these changes, or
>> if you're just interested in helping us qualify the firmware for beta
>> release, please contact me directly.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> * * *
>> 
>> K3 MCU 5.56 / DSP 2.88 / FPF 1.26, 10-26-2016
>> 
>> * SCANNING WORKS WITH FREQUENCIES BELOW 1.0 MHz. Previously, scanning would
>> stall in this case.
>> 
>> * REDUCED K-POD MACRO FLASH TIME:  If text decode is enabled, then the
>> length of time that K-Pod macro names are flashed is greatly reduced. This
>> reduces the obstruction of text shown on VFO B.
>> 
>> * DT, FR, and FT HOST COMMANDS DISALLOWED IN TX MODE: Previously, these
>> commands (data submode, split off, and split on) could be sent to the K3
>> during transmit from software applications. This could sometimes cause side
>> effects such as muting of transmit audio in DATA modes.
>> 
>> K3 MCU 5.55 / DSP 2.88 / FPF 1.26, 10-20-2016
>> 
>> * KPOD WORKS IN REMOTE-RIG TERMINAL MODE:  The K-Pod will now function
>> correctly with a K3 or K3/0-mini being used as a remote-rig terminal. Basic
>> functions of the K-Pod can be used, including switch tap / hold and VFO
>> A/B/offset control. LEDs and AUX outputs of the terminal K-Pod are not yet
>> supported. Note:  At present, when switches on the terminal K-Pod are used,
>> they will execute macros stored at the remote K3. This will be apparent when
>> macro names are flashed on VFO B.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] RemoteRig Control with K3/100 and K-Pod

[kevino z]

My only disappointment is that the KPOD will not allow a macro to change the 
KPA500 state from STBY to OPER. This is really a limitation of the K3S, but one 
thing I felt should be absolutely essential, especially when remote.
What do y'all think ?
--Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Sep 24, 2016, at 22:52, Henning, DL6DH > 
wrote:

Hi Max,



I thought in the same way as you, using the KPod with the K3/0-Mini. But I
encountered the same behavior as you.

Elecraft support told me, that the KPod support for remote is on the
firmware wish list. Actually 5.52 does not include this routine.



I hope, that we will see a solution soon, the KPod is a great tool.





Henning, DL6DH

---





I searched for other threads covering this question, but I couldn't find
anything based on my searching. (my 5 minute effort googling up to see if
this has been covered many times)



I received a shinny new K-Pod today and was excited to play around with it
in the CQWW RTTY where I would be using my K3/100 as an RRC Control to a
Remote K2... with the RRC-1258 setup.



I just assumed that on the control side, the K-Pod would be transparent and
control the control K3/100 and be a pass through to the control side of the
RRC-1258.



It appears I was wrong...  When spinning the K-Pod knob... it does a little
VFO control and then stops.  A bummer for certain... I clearly missed
something some where that explains the fact that there are issues with the
K-Pod controlling a K3/100 as the control radio.  Or in general the K-Pod
won't work with a K3/100 / K3 mini or K30 when hooked up on the control
side?



By the way... the K3/100 control and remote K3 are running the latest beta

5.52 firmware.



Max NG7M



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Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift

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Wish the KX3 had an actual GPS add on board. It could grab the time, as well as 
use the PPS for other things.
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> On Aug 28, 2016, at 09:48, Brian Waterworth  
> wrote:
> 
> I have noticed the same thing.  I was portable and wanted to use the KX3
> clock to set my Raspberry Pi's clock I was using for JT65.  I was shocked
> at how far afield the KX3 time was.  I fortunately had downloaded a GPS app
> to my smartphone that gave me the GPS system time and this was enough to
> get me to within a second of the time that most other JT65 users were using
> (as sync'ed from time services from the internet).
> 
> I too would like to have Elecraft look into the clock drift.
> 
> regards,
> Brian
> VE3IBW
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM, E T  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve had my KX3 for a few months, got it with the KXBC3 charger and
>> clock.  However, the clock seems to lose a couple of minutes per month.
>> Considering the cost of the option I would expect it to be a little more
>> reliable... :-P
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this?  Is there an adjustment for drift?
>> 
>>  Thanks and 73,
>>  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Problem

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Great news. Think this is the first time I managed to contribute a solution to 
this reflector. I've learned so much from everyone on here, and can say it 
feels good to help someone out for a change.
73 Hope to work you on the air someday
KK4YEL 
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> On Jul 30, 2016, at 15:39, James Bennett <w6...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Kevin, Kevin, Jack, & Dirk -
> 
> Thanks for all your helpful suggestions! And the winner is: Kevin Turned off 
> the “PTT via Hamlib command” and that cured the problem.
> 
> Very much appreciated. Now the rig and FLDIGI are MUCH easier to operate!
> 
> 73, Jim / W6JHB
> 
> 
>> On   Saturday, Jul 30, 2016, at  Saturday, 11:28 AM, kevino z 
>> <z_kev...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I bet if you go turn off "PPT via Hamlib command,"  you will be good.
>> 
>> -Kevin (KK4YEL) 
>> 
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>>> On Jul 30, 2016, at 12:49, James Bennett <w6...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a KX3 and am running FLDIGI 3.22.01 on my Raspberry Pi 3. Everything 
>>> works… except for one annoying thing and I’m trying to find out if this is 
>>> an FLDIGI issue or something I need to tweak on the KX3.
>>> 
>>> When I fire off a macro such as a CQ message, the rig goes into transmit as 
>>> it should, sends the text in the macro as it should, but never returns to 
>>> receive: the red TX light on the KX3 stays on, although the RF output 
>>> ceases. I have to manually “tickle” the KX3 XMIT button to get the radio 
>>> into receive mode. Here is a sample macro text I’ve been using to get this 
>>> resolved:
>>> 
>>> Testing testing de w6jhb w6jhb k
>>> 
>>> Seems pretty darn basic, but in my case, basic isn’t getting the job done. 
>>> Anyone else with a KX3 and FLDIGI know what I need to do to get this 
>>> working w/o having to reach up there and press that XMIT button to get back 
>>> to receive mode?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 / FLDIGI Problem

[kevino z]

I bet if you go turn off "PPT via Hamlib command,"  you will be good.

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

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> On Jul 30, 2016, at 12:49, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> I have a KX3 and am running FLDIGI 3.22.01 on my Raspberry Pi 3. Everything 
> works… except for one annoying thing and I’m trying to find out if this is an 
> FLDIGI issue or something I need to tweak on the KX3.
> 
> When I fire off a macro such as a CQ message, the rig goes into transmit as 
> it should, sends the text in the macro as it should, but never returns to 
> receive: the red TX light on the KX3 stays on, although the RF output ceases. 
> I have to manually “tickle” the KX3 XMIT button to get the radio into receive 
> mode. Here is a sample macro text I’ve been using to get this resolved:
> 
> Testing testing de w6jhb w6jhb k
> 
> Seems pretty darn basic, but in my case, basic isn’t getting the job done. 
> Anyone else with a KX3 and FLDIGI know what I need to do to get this working 
> w/o having to reach up there and press that XMIT button to get back to 
> receive mode?
> 
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Safety feature?

[kevino z]

It is a rigctl command to clear SPLIT mode. 

S, set_split_vfo Set split mode, 0 or 1, and transmit VFO.

S 0 VFOA turns off split mode and sets transmit VFO to VFO A

So I guess the better question is if you are in split mode, and transmitting 
(VFO B), and the KX3 gets a command to turn off split mode, and go to VFO A, 
what happens?
Does it keep transmitting but now on VFO A frequency ?

Troubleshooting issues with WSJT-X and just trying to understand what is 
happening under the hood.

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 


> On Feb 8, 2016, at 21:04, Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I do not see the "S 0 VFO" command in the K3/KX3 programmer's reference.
> Is this a command that is being issued to some logging program?
> If so, that may be a condition of the logging program (or a bug).
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 2/8/2016 8:43 PM, kevino z wrote:
>> I noticed if my KX3 is in split mode, and transmitting, and the commandS 
>> 0 VFOA. Is issued, the power level drops to zero. The very next time the 
>> transmission starts again, the power slowly increases from zero to whatever 
>> wattage I had set for power out. Is this some sort of safety feature?
>> 
>> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
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[Elecraft] KX3 Safety feature?

[kevino z]

I noticed if my KX3 is in split mode, and transmitting, and the commandS 0 
VFOA. Is issued, the power level drops to zero. The very next time the 
transmission starts again, the power slowly increases from zero to whatever 
wattage I had set for power out. Is this some sort of safety feature?

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[Elecraft] Script for setting tuner values?

[kevino z]

I was wondering if anyone has written a script using the CAT commands for the 
KX3 or KXPA100 to incrementally go through the ham bands and tune?

Something like:

Change VFO A to frequency at bottom of band
TUNE //the value for that match is stored in memory of tuner
Change VFO A to previous frequency plus some delta (for example, increment by 
10kHz)
TUNE //the value for the match is stored in memory
Repeat until at end of band.


I often try different antennas and think this would be helpful to pre-populate 
the values as I clear old ones when I start with a new antenna.

If no one has already done this, I may try to undertake this endeavor myself.

Thank you
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Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] - symmetrical reflections about the center point

[kevino z]

Thank you - that did it 

-
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, 
while the stupid ones are full of confidence.

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 14:55, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <e...@elecraft.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Try removing each end of the IQ cable between the KX3 and PX3 and firmly 
> re-inserting it. What you are seeing usually is the result of one end not 
> being fully inserted in the jack, leaving one of the IQ lines open. 
> 
> Eric
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>> On 1/10/2016 4:42 AM, kevino z wrote:
>> Not sure if it was the loading of the new KX3 firmware, or if I changed some 
>> settings, but now on my PX3 panadapter, I see everything symmetrically 
>> mirrored around the center. So for example, If there is a signal at Center 
>> frequency -50kHz, it appears at +50kHz too. As I move the VFO, the signals 
>> eventually converge and pass through the middle on their way to the ends of 
>> the display.Anyone have any idea how to fix this, or what I did to get in 
>> this mess?thank you -Kevin (KK4YEL)
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[Elecraft] [PX3] - symmetrical reflections about the center point

[kevino z]

Not sure if it was the loading of the new KX3 firmware, or if I changed some 
settings, but now on my PX3 panadapter, I see everything symmetrically mirrored 
around the center. So for example, If there is a signal at Center frequency 
-50kHz, it appears at +50kHz too. As I move the VFO, the signals eventually 
converge and pass through the middle on their way to the ends of the 
display.Anyone have any idea how to fix this, or what I did to get in this 
mess?thank you -Kevin (KK4YEL)   
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Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

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Yeah, another Mac user here that easily runs most Windows apps in a VM when 
needed. I have also used boot camp when the app is critical, for example SDR#. 
I can not understand the statement that Bootcamp has driver issues as when you 
run the Bootcamp assistant, it has the drivers put on an memory stick. But 
either way, when you run BootCamp, Windows just sees an intel based machine, no 
different than if it was a non Apple hardware device.
I have yet to come across one single ham radio tool / app that didn't run 
flawlessly in either Parallel's running a Win 7 VM, or as stated above, 
Bootcamp.
I will state the obvious, when in the Windows side, you are still vulnerable to 
all of the attacks typically going after MS, Adobe, etc...
Not an endorsement for Apple, but I hate when folks do not recommend a Mac when 
they probably have never owned one.
-Kevin (KK4YEL) 


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> On Jan 5, 2016, at 22:04, Brian Denley  wrote:
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> My i7 iMac runs Windows 7 as well as OSX.  With 32 Gb of memory, I can run 
> any Windows or Apple applications.  I don't have a K3 but the iMac runs my K2 
> and FT-950 applications with no issues whatsoever.  I can upgrade to Win 10 
> for free but I dislike it very much.
> 
> Brian 
> KB1VBF
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>> On Jan 5, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Barry LaZar  wrote:
>> 
>> Randy,
>>   I seriously do not recommend this approach. I have been working with a 
>> friend who has been working on a Mac Mini, actually he has two. He has been 
>> trying to do an integrated station using HRD, FLDIGI, and a few other 
>> things. These are Windows based and he has been using Boot Camp to get to 
>> Windows. He discovered that there are driver issues and a few other things 
>> the prevent easy set up to do what he wants. And to compound the insult, his 
>> second Mac Mini does does not set up like his first.
>> 
>>   Most of the really good software that makes for full integration easy has 
>> been written for a Windows platform. As this is the case, I suggest an I5 
>> with lots of memory running Windows 10. In the end, this is cost effective 
>> and will keep your blood pressure in bounds. As an illustration, I run 
>> Win4K3 for radio control and spectrum display, Com0com for port replication, 
>> Hamradio Deluxe for general logging and uploading to eQSL and LoTW, CW 
>> Skimmer. I switch out CW Skimmer for FLDIGI, and during a contest, I use 
>> N1MM+ in place of HRD. My experience has taught me to not use an Apple base 
>> system for this situation. However, there are other collections of S/W, but 
>> I expect the integration my not be as easy.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Barry
>> K3NDM
>> 
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Randy Cook" 
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: 1/5/2016 8:35:48 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] suggested PC???
>> 
>>> Consider an Apple Mac. On the Apple website, you can get a iMac or MacBook 
>>> Air ‘refurbished’. After years of dealing with viruses, blown updates, 
>>> buggy software, etc. on work computers, I come home to a 5 year old MacBook 
>>> Air machine that just works and will probably run forever. I like 
>>> MacLoggerDX for station control/logging, but others have their favorite.
>>> As to value, I just sold an iMac desktop machine that my son didn’t need 
>>> anymore. He is at college and has a laptop. It was 6 years old and I got 
>>> 40% of the price I paid new for it on eBay. If it were a 6 year old PC, I 
>>> would have had to pay a toxic waste fee to get rid of it.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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