Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 00:22, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob Ok to divide the world in half. If you are at runlevel 3 (no dm or WM) and run mpg123 does it look up there as well? If you run gpm you can test the mouse as well. If it does lock up then we know it's not just a conflict between the WM and the sound system. If it doesn't that changes the avenue of attack. James K may be barking up the wrong tree here. But a thread on pclinuxonline and in the errata for 9.2 yeilds this. quote Error scenario: When enabling ACPI in the kernel (by removing acpi=ht from the kernel boot options), the system freezes very early Why: There seems to be a bad interaction with Local APIC, which is enabled by default in the kernel. This can be seen by adding vga=0 to try to see the last kernel message before it locks solid (a message like Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found). This seems to happen with certain HP laptops. Other reports also indicate that if you remove AC power from a laptop (ie. Dell latitude C640; possibly others) it will freeze requiring a power off. (re: Bugzilla #5821) Solution: Add nolapic to the kernel boot options to resolve both issues. /quote the pclinuxonline thread is here. http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Forumsfile=viewtopictopic=2382forum=19 James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:36, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 6:31 am, Jack Coates wrote: Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. ... so the issue is only when you're running X and KDE... you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. OK, I altered the X stuff (not that I can see how this would effect the crash) then I dropped out of KDE and entered Gnome. Reniced X and realtime artsd has caused several crashes for me -- basically it's manual monkeying with a sensitive automated process management system. Because you're seeing crashes, you have something drastically wrong. This is a relatively new laptop, right? You've probably got to mess with ACPI and APIC combinations. I know that my laptop won't work at all with ACPI turned off. Trying XMMS I had the same problem. Start to play the tune (this time an ogg file) and the keyboard and touch pad are doa, without any kernel messages. And I started XMMS for Console, and there were no messages there. And just for yucks, I tried mp3blaster in a console window. You guessed it, dead as a doorknob. and you didn't get any error messages? You should be seeing eror messages because you've launched XMMS with the artsd output plugin while artsd shouldn't be present... What the heck could it be? How the heck could I detect it? Rob telinit 3 pidof esd pidof artsd service alsa stop service sound stop if either ends with failed, you have a problem -- pkill the process that's holding things open. service sound start service alsa start play /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Yo.wav alsaplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Yo.wav if either one hangs, we go back to suspecting hardware. If they don't make noise but successfully finish, we look at mixer settings. If one works and the other doesn't, well, Linux sound kinda sucks, just be happy something works :-) -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... Through counterintelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them... -- Wake Up by Rage Against The Machine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 21:41, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 9:22 am, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in it's database and can get you up. I have a 4236-card which sndconfig can get sound from, but it have not, (since mdk8.1) been able to save its settings. Every time i install a new mdk since then I've had to resort to run pnpdump + isapnp, and comment out when given multiple choise. I also put alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10 Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob you're a KDE user, aren't you? in the DM you're using (e.g. mdkkdm, kdm, gdm, xdm) make sure that X is not being niced: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html kcontrol, stop artsd from running with real time priority. xmms, make sure it's using arts output plugin (may need to install xmms-arts), don't allow it to run with realtime either. log out, then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to make the DM changes take effect, then log back in and you should be fine. -- Jack at Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture... We knocked another couple back, The dead soldiers lined up on the table still prepared for an attack, they didn't know they'd been disabled. Baby Britain from XO by Elliott Smith Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Monday 17 November 2003 9:22 am, Björn Lundin wrote: James Sparenberg wrote: Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in it's database and can get you up. I have a 4236-card which sndconfig can get sound from, but it have not, (since mdk8.1) been able to save its settings. Every time i install a new mdk since then I've had to resort to run pnpdump + isapnp, and comment out when given multiple choise. I also put alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=0 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=10 Well, I found that the problem is not with the sound card, thanks to you guys. Bjorn gave me a tip in the options cs4232 line with the mpuirq=10, and I got it up and running, but only in console. Yep, in tty1, I was able to play an mp3 with mp3blaster. But when I get over to the graphical side, running XMMS completely locks up the system. The mouse is dead, the keyboard is dead, the whole freakin' thing. It doesn't crash until a sound is made. Attempting to play an mp3 kills it, and generating a tone with the tone generator plugin kills the system. So then I wondered if it was something about the sound system, and I installed Kaboodle, and attempted to play an mp3. Same deal. DOA. I am wondering if its and IRQ problem, but it doesn't seem so. Now, I appear to be using IRQ9 for mpu and IRQ 5 for sound. IRQ 9 does not show up in /proc/interrupts, however IRQ 5 is shown to be used by Crystal Audio Controller. Where do I go from here? Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
