[FairfieldLife] Rick - Until Barry is removed - Goodbye
Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I guess I am one of the casualties. See ya!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
Yes, and he must be relieved not to read my posts, or so he says, because I happen to take this sort of thing, very seriously, and think he should be investigated, or at least have his PC checked out. I don't mind all his other insults, beyond their anti-social nature - there is no substance. But when someone begins associating sex with babies, that gets my attention, and not in a good way at all. There are few lines crossed here, but this is one of them. In real life, I wouldn't let that perv within 100 yards of a child. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You just have to read his colourful language about abuse of small babies to see that Judy was right about the Turq all along, he is a sadistic pervert. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If I was living with him, I would politely, but firmly, ask him to leave, or keep a very sharp eye out - especially with children present. He refers to it, as, colorful language. Then proceeds to put the blame, for his very disturbing thoughts, on those who call him out. Not because we are cult members, but because we are normal, decent human beings. Barry is in denial about this, and that can be a warning sign, too. Judy used to caution about Barry's mental illness. I thought she was exaggerating - Now, I am not so sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. Let's just hope he's drunk. I thought I'd seen the worst of him on FFL but he's starting to show us more and more of what he's got inside of him.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Happy Thanksgiving, Share! And happy trails, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL (-: From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple! Anyone had a similar experience? Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
[FairfieldLife] Re: CROP CIRCLES DECODED
The Salinas crop circle was a publicity stunt, by tech co Nvidia - Says they flew in crop circle makers from England. Crop circle: No, it wasn't aliens, it was marketers http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ Crop circle: No, it wasn't aliens, it was marketers http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ Sorry, dear readers, but the crop circle discovered last week etched in a farmer's barley field in Chualar, California, was not created by aliens. View on www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ✦ CROP CIRCLES DECODED ✦- Positive Alien Messages, Truth of universe within crop designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY ✦ CROP CIRCLES DECODED ✦- Positive Ali... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY Thinking that we are alone is rather pathological. Crop circles are beautiful messages created through the high frequency resonating fields of electrom... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY Preview by Yahoo Decoded ? Well, sort of.. SALINAS CROP CIRCLE MESSAGE DECODED, SALINAS CROP CIRLE DESTROYED, DECODED CROP CIRCLE, UFO, OVNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw SALINAS CROP CIRCLE MESSAGE DECODED, S... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw http://megalegit.com/extraterrestrial/ SALINAS, Calif., Jan. 2 (UPI) -- A California crop circle with unknown origins was destroyed by the land owner tired o... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh
It doesn't bother me at all, being compared to a past ideal of perfection, that no longer exists. That is like being told we were once a race of giants, and feeling short the rest of my life. Good point, though, for overall perspective. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I've heard something along those liens also, becuase, well, Maharishi couldn't possibly be getting old because he's 100.00...% enlightened, and enlightened people never grow old. As I said, lots of TMers, especially TM teachers, never really listened to MMY when he said thigns about how no-one is ever fully enlgihtened or that the state of world consciosuenss precludes anyone from become as enlightened as people were in the distant (Golden Age™) past and that therefore anything MMY ever said was necessarily limited and imperfect. It's sorta like the Christians who ignore Jesus' observation that everyone has fallen short of the Glory of God. There is none perfect -no, not one. They always add except Me because Jesus couldn't possibly have been saying that HE was imperfect... Other Christians justify the phrase by saying that once he was resurrected, he was automatically perfect, so there. I've heard TM teachers discuss how Gurudev was the reincarnation of John the Baptist while MMY was the reincarnation of Jesus. It's pretty remarkable, all the stuff people say to themselves to justify ceasing to think for themselves, no matter what. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Barry's new toy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Actually, I've run into four or five fairly well-known and respected meditation teachers who believed that the only thing that explained Maharishi's degeneration *was* being possessed. Go figure. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh You mean Maharishi was possessed? Who would have thunk it? :-D On 11/26/2014 08:40 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: As a follow up to Tormod's post. By Hans Bruncken Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahes Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maha... A Story told by the Maharaja of Kanju Singh Deo in 1974 to Hans Bruncken. View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
Can we say, karmic rebound? Yes, I think we can. Barry has, unfortunately, designed himself, for a world that is quickly fading away. All types of abuse, fraud, and pettiness, are being exposed, and recognized. Through the rising consciousness of the world, and social media, everyone is becoming effortlessly aware, of *everything*. No more hiding in the shadows, or self aggrandizement, from insults. Everything is out in the open, now. Barry is out in the open, now, and any tendencies he has to hurt others for his own enjoyment, have been exposed, for all of us to read, and archived. Every word. It is quite a coming to judgment for Barry, as he has miscalculated, due to his egotism, and cynicism, the global expansion of consciousness, and the natural strength that provides, for decent people, like those here on FFL. He still lives back in his hippie daze, with Freddie and the dreamers, where pretending a faux coolness was all that was necessary. No growth since, except a parroting of the abuse he suffered, at the hands of Freddie. Yes, the lights are on, and everyone is home. Barry can't find a hole deep enough right now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hopefully one of our lurkers in Holland alerts the police in Leiden about this pervert. They could have him in for questioning and check his computer. That would also alert his roommates. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, and he must be relieved not to read my posts, or so he says, because I happen to take this sort of thing, very seriously, and think he should be investigated, or at least have his PC checked out. I don't mind all his other insults, beyond their anti-social nature - there is no substance. But when someone begins associating sex with babies, that gets my attention, and not in a good way at all. There are few lines crossed here, but this is one of them. In real life, I wouldn't let that perv within 100 yards of a child. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You just have to read his colourful language about abuse of small babies to see that Judy was right about the Turq all along, he is a sadistic pervert. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If I was living with him, I would politely, but firmly, ask him to leave, or keep a very sharp eye out - especially with children present. He refers to it, as, colorful language. Then proceeds to put the blame, for his very disturbing thoughts, on those who call him out. Not because we are cult members, but because we are normal, decent human beings. Barry is in denial about this, and that can be a warning sign, too. Judy used to caution about Barry's mental illness. I thought she was exaggerating - Now, I am not so sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. Let's just hope he's drunk. I thought I'd seen the worst of him on FFL but he's starting to show us more and more of what he's got inside of him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
I keep forgetting about this black friday thing, here. Jesus. At least it is, technically, *after* Turkey Day, and so, the Xmas Season kickoff... I like Canada a lot - As much as I love the US tribe, Canada is always a kinder and gentler example, to me, of how to act as a country, though their much smaller population makes it all a bit easier to manage, too. I cannot recall ever having met a Canadian, who was not friendly, giving, personable, and trustworthy. I worked with several, for years, in various tech companies. Have only visited Ottowa, though - Loved It - Instant Europe. I don't know where it comes from, but my daughter is a big hockey fan - not quite religion, but it is her 'go to' game. Happy Thanksgiving, if yours is on the same day...or just good morning! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query
Welcome back! :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nope, salyavin, not goodbye, just a thank you cuz it's Thanksgiving in the US. At least I don't think it's goodbye. You never know (-: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thank you everyone on FFL for all your support, knowledge, humor and entertainment these last 2 1/2 years. And yes for all the triggerings too LOL (-: Is this a goodbye? From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/17/2014 9:58 AM, Share Long wrote: Richard, I tried this last night but didn't notice anything different. Maybe cuz I didn't sit up in bed when I did it? And I forgot to do it this morning. Nonetheless, will soldier on, thanks again for posting. The technique may not work for just anyone. Apparently MMY dropped using this technique himself for some reason, but I found it quite enjoyable. People usually think thoughts just before going to sleep but quite often they are just random thinking without any direction. Until I was taught the Night Technique by Satyanand, I used another technique that I developed myself - you simply think of something positive to look forward to the next day and then slip into sleep. It works too, but not as well. There is something about the directed sound vibration than is a subtle relaxing feeling with the bija mantra - Laya Yoga while you sleep. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... mailto:punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucid-dreaming query On 11/15/2014 5:22 PM, s3raphita wrote: So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? The trick is to practice a Laya Yoga technique we learned from Satyanand: When you are ready for sleep you just sit up in bed and then let your bija mantra rest at the heart chakra for a few minutes. That way, the subtle currents from your Istadevata will permeate your entire being while you sleep. For example, my Istadevata is Saraswati, the Goddess of Learning, so by resting the bija portion of her mantra at the heart chakra, my intelligence will grow by leaps and bounds, right while I'm sleeping. Then, when you awaken in the morning you will feel refreshed and full of energy and knowledge. It's that simple! Anyone had a similar experience? Yes. A lucid dream is a dream in which the sleeper is aware that he or she is dreaming. From what I've read, the phenomenon of lucid dreaming has been well established by scientific research, so its existence is well established.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
oooh, your misery stinks, dude. Open a window... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : I'm so thankful this Thanksgiving day that ISIS has revealed the ultimate expansion of global consciousness. We've been waiting so long for this revelation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
Turkey vultures have a *much* smaller body, all that bulk is a folded six foot wingspan - We watch them circle up and out of the canyons almost every day. Largest nostrils of any bird, so they can smell carrion from hundreds of feet up. Doesn't add to their looks, but first things, first. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : oh, good point. But these were pretty large birds, and they were scattered over a little area. I couldn't see exactly, but it looked more like they were pecking along at little bits of something, sorta like chickens. Looking at the pictures below, the guys I saw maybe had a more vertical profile. And then the next day, over in Chesterfield, near the Missouri River, I noticed a big freshly plowed field with white spots all around. As I got closer I saw that they were doves, or some other white bird, who were pecking away at what must have been some freshly laid seed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : This was kind of funny. The other day, I think it was Monday, I was on the highway in Illinois, and there on the side of the road, right off the shoulder, were five turkeys, busy pecking away at something they had found. We know Benjamin Franklin said the eagle was too immoral to be our national bird and much preferred the turkey. I'm still votin' for the eagle. (-: Are you sure they weren't turkey vultures? They can look a little alike with their ugly heads and turkey vultures would definitely be pecking on road kill. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
LOL - Looks like I really stepped in the dressing! Yes, the football and feasting. I will do my best to eat and drink too much today! As for Barry, like I said, there isn't a hole deep enough for him right now, so the best course, for him, is to get some help, and remove himself until he does, without any prodding, official or otherwise. This place was never meant to be his toilet, and if it takes the Dutch cops asking him a lot of uncomfortable questions, to get him out of here, and to seriously clean up his act, so be it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I keep forgetting about this black friday thing, here. Jesus. At least it is, technically, *after* Turkey Day, and so, the Xmas Season kickoff... I like Canada a lot - As much as I love the US tribe, Canada is always a kinder and gentler example, to me, of how to act as a country, though their much smaller population makes it all a bit easier to manage, too. I cannot recall ever having met a Canadian, who was not friendly, giving, personable, and trustworthy. I worked with several, for years, in various tech companies. Have only visited Ottowa, though - Loved It - Instant Europe. I don't know where it comes from, but my daughter is a big hockey fan - not quite religion, but it is her 'go to' game. Happy Thanksgiving, if yours is on the same day...or just good morning! Good morning, sir. No, Canadian Thanksgiving is always the first Monday in October. So today we just watch the Americans eat their way to lethargy and play their football and get ready to descend on the stores tomorrow in a shopping panic. One thing that has happened up here is that in an effort to reap some of the marketing benefits of Black Friday in America, Canada has also started their own Black Friday. I hate it. BTW, really good post about Barry and his sick postings here. I really, really wish he could either leave us alone or at least go get help. Maybe getting arrested would be a wakeup call, I don't know. But his toxicity here is beyond belief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
[FairfieldLife] Scientists discover earth is protected by star-trek-like force field
At first, I thought it was a joke about the atmosphere, but it turns out to be true. http://www.frontlinedesk.com/201411937-scientists-discover-earth-protected-star-trek-like-invisible-shield/ http://www.frontlinedesk.com/201411937-scientists-discover-earth-protected-star-trek-like-invisible-shield/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
Ha Ha - With web shopping, there really aren't any sales anymore, either, except for a few loss leaders, or the latest tech gadget - I figure some people just enjoy the mild shopping insanity during black friday. Yes, I stay home, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Black Friday is nothing more than a plea from shitty big businessmen to bail us out because we don't know how to run a corporation. For a lot of people it means stay home Friday and stay away from the crazies on the road and at the stores. I'm waiting for Red February. :-D On 11/27/2014 07:28 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I keep forgetting about this black friday thing, here. Jesus. At least it is, technically, *after* Turkey Day, and so, the Xmas Season kickoff... I like Canada a lot - As much as I love the US tribe, Canada is always a kinder and gentler example, to me, of how to act as a country, though their much smaller population makes it all a bit easier to manage, too. I cannot recall ever having met a Canadian, who was not friendly, giving, personable, and trustworthy. I worked with several, for years, in various tech companies. Have only visited Ottowa, though - Loved It - Instant Europe. I don't know where it comes from, but my daughter is a big hockey fan - not quite religion, but it is her 'go to' game. Happy Thanksgiving, if yours is on the same day...or just good morning! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
Great analogy! I wonder where the Norsemen got the myth from?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Like the Trolls in Norse mythology who crack up if exposed to direct sunlight the Turq have been exposed to more light than he expected. He is probably busy cleaning up his harddisks as we speak. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : LOL - Looks like I really stepped in the dressing! Yes, the football and feasting. I will do my best to eat and drink too much today! As for Barry, like I said, there isn't a hole deep enough for him right now, so the best course, for him, is to get some help, and remove himself until he does, without any prodding, official or otherwise. This place was never meant to be his toilet, and if it takes the Dutch cops asking him a lot of uncomfortable questions, to get him out of here, and to seriously clean up his act, so be it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I keep forgetting about this black friday thing, here. Jesus. At least it is, technically, *after* Turkey Day, and so, the Xmas Season kickoff... I like Canada a lot - As much as I love the US tribe, Canada is always a kinder and gentler example, to me, of how to act as a country, though their much smaller population makes it all a bit easier to manage, too. I cannot recall ever having met a Canadian, who was not friendly, giving, personable, and trustworthy. I worked with several, for years, in various tech companies. Have only visited Ottowa, though - Loved It - Instant Europe. I don't know where it comes from, but my daughter is a big hockey fan - not quite religion, but it is her 'go to' game. Happy Thanksgiving, if yours is on the same day...or just good morning! Good morning, sir. No, Canadian Thanksgiving is always the first Monday in October. So today we just watch the Americans eat their way to lethargy and play their football and get ready to descend on the stores tomorrow in a shopping panic. One thing that has happened up here is that in an effort to reap some of the marketing benefits of Black Friday in America, Canada has also started their own Black Friday. I hate it. BTW, really good post about Barry and his sick postings here. I really, really wish he could either leave us alone or at least go get help. Maybe getting arrested would be a wakeup call, I don't know. But his toxicity here is beyond belief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
I wonder if the turkeys refer to the turkey vultures as, Jimmy Durantes, or similar, behind their backs? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I like that, largest nostrils bit. Good 'ol natural selection, at work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Turkey vultures have a *much* smaller body, all that bulk is a folded six foot wingspan - We watch them circle up and out of the canyons almost every day. Largest nostrils of any bird, so they can smell carrion from hundreds of feet up. Doesn't add to their looks, but first things, first. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : oh, good point. But these were pretty large birds, and they were scattered over a little area. I couldn't see exactly, but it looked more like they were pecking along at little bits of something, sorta like chickens. Looking at the pictures below, the guys I saw maybe had a more vertical profile. And then the next day, over in Chesterfield, near the Missouri River, I noticed a big freshly plowed field with white spots all around. As I got closer I saw that they were doves, or some other white bird, who were pecking away at what must have been some freshly laid seed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : This was kind of funny. The other day, I think it was Monday, I was on the highway in Illinois, and there on the side of the road, right off the shoulder, were five turkeys, busy pecking away at something they had found. We know Benjamin Franklin said the eagle was too immoral to be our national bird and much preferred the turkey. I'm still votin' for the eagle. (-: Are you sure they weren't turkey vultures? They can look a little alike with their ugly heads and turkey vultures would definitely be pecking on road kill. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientists discover earth is protected by star-trek-like force field
Yes, I ALWAYS wear my tin-foil helmet, too, just to make sure! Happy Thanksgiving, Steve! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Appropriate for Thanksgiving! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : At first, I thought it was a joke about the atmosphere, but it turns out to be true. http://www.frontlinedesk.com/201411937-scientists-discover-earth-protected-star-trek-like-invisible-shield/ http://www.frontlinedesk.com/201411937-scientists-discover-earth-protected-star-trek-like-invisible-shield/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
Fascinating - I recall them from the children's stories I heard as a child.
Must be some truth to all of it, given the coherence of the stories.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
All the stories about the Trolls are age-old oral traditions. Funny thing is
that when these stories were collected and written down in the 1800's they were
coherent and often identical even between remote villages in different parts of
Scandinavia and Iceland.
I had an Icelandic friend who was rather bright who said he often saw and
communicated with Trolls who he claimed were not benign but rather dense and
could be easily tricked into doing things he wanted them to do.
But communication was always restricted to after sunset or before sunrise :-)
As wiki points out there are huge numbers of these Creatures but all being
biggish, dim-witted and potentially dangerous.
In Norse mythology, troll, like thurs, is a term applied to jötnar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6tnar, and are mentioned throughout the Old
Norse corpus. In Old Norse sources, trolls are said to dwell in isolated
mountains, rocks, and caves, sometimes live together (usually as
father-and-daughter or mother-and-son), and are rarely described as helpful or
friendly.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-ORCHARD1997167-1 In
the Prose Edda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prose_Edda book Skáldskaparmál
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sk%C3%A1ldskaparm%C3%A1l, a scenario describing an
encounter between an unnamed troll woman and the 9th century skald
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skald Bragi Boddason
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bragi_Boddason is provided. According to the
section, once, late in the evening, Bragi was driving through a certain
forest when a troll woman aggressively asked him who he was, in the process
describing herself:
Bragi responds in turn, describing himself and his abilities as a skillful
skald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skald, before the scenario ends.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-FAULKES-132-3
There is much confusion and overlap in the use of Old Norse terms jötunn,
troll, þurs and risi, which describe various beings. Lotte Motz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotte_Motz theorized that these were originally
four distinct classes of beings; lords of nature (jötunn), mythical magicians
(troll), hostile monsters (þurs) and heroic and courtly beings (risi)—the last
class being the youngest addition. Ármann Jakobsson calls this theory
unsupported by any convincing evidence.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-JAKOBSSON06-4 He has gone on to
study the Old Norse examples of the term troll and has concluded that in the
Middle Ages, the term is used to denote various beings such as a giant or
mountain-dweller, a witch, an abnormally strong or large or ugly person, an
evil spirit, a ghost, a blámaðr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people, a
magical boar, a heathen demi-god, a demon, a brunnmigi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunnmigi or a berserk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-JAKOBSSON08-5[clarification needed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify]
Scandinavian folklore Later, in Scandinavian folklore, trolls become defined
as a particular type of being.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-SIMEK335-6 Numerous tales about
trolls are recorded, in which they are frequently described as being extremely
old, very strong, but slow and dim-witted, and are at times described as
man-eaters and as turning to stone upon contact with sunlight.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-KVEDELAND-SEHMSDORF-301-313-7
However, trolls are also attested as looking much the same as human beings,
without any particularly hideous appearance about them, but where they differ
is in that they live far away from human habitation, and, unlike the rå and
näck—who are attested as solitary beings, trolls generally have some form of
social organization. Where they differ, Lindow adds, is that they are not
Christian, and those that encounter them do not know them. Therefore trolls
were in the end dangerous, regardless of how well they may get along with
Christian society, and trolls display a habit of bergtagning ('kidnapping';
literally mountain-taking) and overrunning a farm or estate.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-LINDOW-1978-33-35-8
While noting that the etymology of the word troll remains uncertain, John
Lindow defines trolls in later Swedish folklore as nature beings and as
all-purpose otherworldly being[s], equivalent, for example, to fairies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy in Anglo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-saxons-Celtic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts traditions and that they therefore appear
in various migratory legends
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Migratory_legendaction=editredlink=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hey, Did Anyone Wish the Lurking Reporter, Happy Thanksgiving?
I also included her buddy, the tooth fairy! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Happy Thanksgiving LR!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd limit his participation. A good, and appropriate suggestion - Rick, what is your take, please? Richard's suggestion makes sense, in terms of the ongoing viability of this forum. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : We warned this guy years ago about posting these kind of messages - a double-edged sword. Anyone that has been posting as long as Barry (since 1994) has been posting should know better. Anything can be taken out of context so it's just much better to be friendly online and reserve off-color comments for buddies at the bar. This was really dumb of Barry - in fact, it's one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on newsgroups since I started in 1999. If I was the moderator of this group I'd put him on probation with a very strong warning and demand an apology to the entire group and until he does I'd limit his participation. This was TOTALLY inappropriate for a family forum like this. On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 6:43 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hilarious; from fantasizing about butt fucking babies to: I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. The Turq is coherent indeed :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/26/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: My output is what it is because I am more coherent and a better thinker. HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The_Last_Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield and M. Effect
Barry seems quite obsessed with this idea of wanting fame, and has been projecting his desire onto others as long as he has been posting here. WTF? He can *have* my supposed 15 minutes, as can anyone else. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The Maharishi Effect has always, at least in the theoretical discussions, been a big numbers effect that requires statistical analysis to catch. It's rubbish in other words. I was going to insert an edit and change the last word of Lawson's sentence from catch to fake. :-) It's still a weird moment when I run into someone who actually seems to believe in the ME. It's like encountering an actual person who believes that the earth is only a few thousand years old -- part of me is repulsed, like when you see the geek in a traveling carnival show, but another part is so astounded that someone can possibly believe this stuff that I can't look away. People must be really, really desperate for attention to still be seeking credit for saving the world by bouncing on their butts. It's as if they're hoping someday their groupie status will be so big people will ask for their autographs. Speaking of autographs, I was somewhat subdued in my FFL posting yesterday because I was still savoring the discovery that I got mentioned by name in Bruce Cockburn's new memoir Rumours Of Glory. It's just one paragraph recalling a time we met briefly in Toronto, but it was good to know that he'd actually read the piece I wrote it up in, and remembered it. For a Cockburn fan that's like 15 seconds were added to my lifetime 15 minutes of fame, so I understand the butt-bouncers' desire to have someone pat them on the back and say, Hey...great job saving the world! :-) So you admit you're a common celebrity hound after all. That's a step in the right direction.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
Odd thing - Although I am immeasurably indebted to Maharishi for bringing out the knowledge, to basically reverse the trends of time, as he so aptly put it, my devotion and the natural direction of my heart, always goes to SBS. On the one hand, overflowing gratitude to Maharishi, but the overflowing love always flows to Guru Dev. Not that I ever think twice about it. :-) Welcome Tormod, I am 1/8 Norwegian (paternal grandmother was 1/2), though have not yet visited there, in this lifetime. I was pleasantly surprised to read recently that Norway is the wealthiest country in the world - No wonder TM is so popular there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hello Tormod, you seem to be a reasonable fellow. Please note that my comment was not directed at you specifically but rather in the direction of Paul Mason based on a comment Maharishi made some years ago that in the future some will try to sow discontent and doubts by trying to convince people of how devoted they are to Guru Dev. Their ultimate motifs could be to weaken the practice of meditation amongst TM'ers. It's something to keep in mind, nothing to be overly concerned about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Hei (Norwegian greeting), Thanks! I have no idea of Nabby's identity, and may not try to find out either. Now, there is one more thing - Maharishi did a lot to keep the TM movement rolling, and TM surely helps a lot. I am glad that much research has confirmed it. I have a lot to be grateful for - my life, too, I can tell. Loving greetings, -- Tormod Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
No thanks, but enjoy the backstroke, pun intended! :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I think dolphins have polyamorous pods. Maybe if we get as evolved as they are, we'll be able to navigate this territory without setting off any mines! From: LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC Eh, I've always though of myself as polyamorous at heart, but only with respect to MY behavior. All my wimin better be one-man-women, thanksverymuch! The fact though, is that if you genuinely love someone, you have to recognize that they may be hurt by YOUR behavior, and modify it accordingly. I know long-term, stable threesomes. I once met a long-term, stable group marriage involving at least 3 or four married couples, dating back to the 60's. Such things are very rare, however. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have to say that it appears to me that the central tenant of polyamory, is that I am going to fuck who I want, when I want, and if it bothers you, then you had best get over it, or used to it. Now, along with that you may try to carve out a life with others with whom you get along with reasonably well, at least for the moment, but the relationship(s) are always subject to I reserve the right to bring home anyone with whom I wish to have sex. And it also seems that you can be voted off the island at anytime. I'm not sensing a lot of happiness in that arrangement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Search Facebook Accounts?? Are you hallucinating, too? I despise Facebook, and would NEVER have an account on there. That site is for overgrown pimply teenagers like yourself, imo. I found your pictures, in five seconds, with the following search string on Google: Barry Wright Leiden polyamory Try it.:-) :-) :-) Yes, interesting. It turns out the lampshade is a paper hat on his head. Some insights into bawee's life here; he seems nicer when not at FFL. I wonder why that is? The whole subject of polyamory is interesting. Reading about the dad in the family I wonder how willing he would be to share his daughter Maya with outside families - allow her to live and be loved and kept and nourished/raised by other households in the same way he is willing to allow his lovers the same freedoms. He does say that Maya especially is the light of his life, his main love so I would have to wonder if he wouldn't want to hold her much closer to himself in every way, but only he could tell us that. I have lots of ideas about polyamory and I know it has been sort of discussed here but bawee, as usual, was criticizing and abusing anyone who had qualms about it. Maybe because he doesn't read 90% of the posters here we could have a civilized discussion about it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
Yes, polyamory is basically there, to take care of lust. Humans, though, do themselves a disservice getting addicted to it. Part of Barry's many problems, is that he never made the transition, from lust, to intimacy (which incorporates plenty of lust), and doesn't understand the difference - hence, no long-term relationships for him, ever. I doubt he has even lived with a woman for longer than a year, during his entire adult life. He just doesn't get it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I have to say that it appears to me that the central tenant of polyamory, is that I am going to fuck who I want, when I want, and if it bothers you, then you had best get over it, or used to it. Now, along with that you may try to carve out a life with others with whom you get along with reasonably well, at least for the moment, but the relationship(s) are always subject to I reserve the right to bring home anyone with whom I wish to have sex. And it also seems that you can be voted off the island at anytime. I'm not sensing a lot of happiness in that arrangement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Search Facebook Accounts?? Are you hallucinating, too? I despise Facebook, and would NEVER have an account on there. That site is for overgrown pimply teenagers like yourself, imo. I found your pictures, in five seconds, with the following search string on Google: Barry Wright Leiden polyamory Try it.:-) :-) :-) Yes, interesting. It turns out the lampshade is a paper hat on his head. Some insights into bawee's life here; he seems nicer when not at FFL. I wonder why that is? The whole subject of polyamory is interesting. Reading about the dad in the family I wonder how willing he would be to share his daughter Maya with outside families - allow her to live and be loved and kept and nourished/raised by other households in the same way he is willing to allow his lovers the same freedoms. He does say that Maya especially is the light of his life, his main love so I would have to wonder if he wouldn't want to hold her much closer to himself in every way, but only he could tell us that. I have lots of ideas about polyamory and I know it has been sort of discussed here but bawee, as usual, was criticizing and abusing anyone who had qualms about it. Maybe because he doesn't read 90% of the posters here we could have a civilized discussion about it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS
Best we can do from a distance is surround them with love. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the DomeYes, I call it, eating their stress, but it is driving for the same effect - just more compassionate, than loving, imo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nope, realistically they are not going to stop until everyone there is exhausted of the violence and incoherence, like happened between the Protestants and Catholics in 18th and 19th Century Europe whence they finally gave up on each other and the separatists and agreed to stop in a mutuality. Not much else to do with these religious nuts other than observantly keep your own safety while they fight. Religion at that level is a different wave-length than spirituality. Best we can do from a distance is surround them with love. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck in the Dome fleetwood_macncheese@... writes : Yep, I agree with jr's suggestion, and too, that most in the US have world policeman fatigue, and no desire for another war. So, the best we can probably hope for, is to continue strategic strikes in the region, and contain the menace, to some degree. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : John, I agree 100%. However, I can't see Obama ever putting together a coalition to do that. Nobody in the world trusts that guy! Remember all those red lines in the sand? Do you think Ukrainians would beleive him? How about Poland, Israel or any of our Arab allies? I think not. Obama has ruined any trust we had with traditional allies and our enemies look at his as a wimp. As for the UN sending troops, that's laughable. Unfortunately, any heavy lifting would have to be done by us. We have the strength, power, military and economy to do itbut no will. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS Mike, As I mentioned to Fleetwood, the solution is to have an international force to eliminate IS, maintain the peace and stability in the land. This should not be shouldered by the USA exclusively. The Arab and European countries should contribute their share of troop strength in this endeavor. As a matter of fact, the UN should send their own troops there too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Funny thing is... we had it won by 2008. We had an Iraqi army in training... yes training and relative calm and order established when our *Dear One* decided that He needed to fulfill his campaign promise to bring the troops home, before the Iraqis were really ready. Now we're in this current situation that Bush and everyone else warned would happen if we left prematurely. How long would we have needed to stay? Who knows? We still have troops in Duetschland and Japan and they aren't seen as occupiers but as allies. Four thousand lives, hundreds of thousands of minds and limbs, trillions of dollars, and hopes for a stabilizing force for peace in a region, flushed down the toilet for a campaign promise and now we may be need to return and do it all again or face a worse situation. Did you notice, barely mentioned in the news, that the troops are not coming home from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, as promised? Yes, now they're staying... indefinitely. Surprise surprise! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS You know that sign in gift shops, you break it, you buy it? Same thing applies here - We own the mess. I was a little naive about our intentions in Iraq when we went in the first time, but after I saw the deliberate sacking of their national museum, and have recognized since that we were solely protecting our interests, their culture be damned. This being the case, we will only attract those who need work, into the Iraqi army, not those who truly want to defend their country. Remember Vietnamization, where we trained a similar army in S. Vietnam, to fight their own battles? The country was overrun in a couple of years. Same thing will happen in Iraq, if we don't land troops again. What a mess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Entrenched corruption in the Iraqi military is undermining the fight against the Islamic State. This is the downside in relying on a questionable army to carry out the task of suppressing the Islamists. If conditions get worse, US troops may end up fighting in Iraq again. In the meantime, Iran is secretly working on acquiring Iraq if things fall apart. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Yep, not a lot of substance, behind the ever-present blustering that he does. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Yes, it is a curious coincidence that sooner,or later anyone who disagrees with Barry is labeled a cult apologist, or as being obsessed with him. He holds himself up as some sort of uber cool hipster. But, I think his fan club really consists of two other people. That link (non clicking) you provided earlier, is pretty damned interesting. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You have a very telling habit, Barry. Every time you get your butt seriously kicked, the other person automatically becomes crazy. Enjoy those boot prints on your buttocks, big boy. You have insulted, demeaned, distorted and slandered so many people on here, due to your hubris, sadistic tendencies, and ignorance. I am enjoying the payback, as are many others. You are an asshole, who has insisted on my attention, so enjoy it, while you've got it. :-) :-) :-) Or you could just start TM, and transform into a much nicer, more socially and financially responsible person. But you won't - you seem to enjoy putting your brokenness on display, and I'll gladly continue to play the spotlight on your performance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, especially: I've yet to see any evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions. That's really it, the bottom line for me, too. From December of 1967 (when I started TM) to the present, *I have not met a single TMer* who I would consider enlightened, using traditional definitions of that term. Those TMers who have claimed to be enlightened have IMO *all* fallen into the categories you name above -- personality disordered, mentally ill, or imbalanced. I am *not* saying this to be mean, or to diss TM. I'm saying it because it's true. I really *haven't* met even a single person who practiced TM whom I would suspect of being enlightened. Not even one. Just to make the distinction clear, I *have* met people from other spiritual traditions who I have suspected were enlightened. I don't know for sure, of course, and never will, but at least there was a *possibility* with these individuals that I was talking with someone enlightened, rather than someone personality disordered, mentally ill, or imbalanced. With anyone who had spent any time in the TM movement, it was impossible for me to entertain that possibility. I have to believe, therefore -- based on my personal experience -- that TM not only does *not* produce enlightenment as it has been traditionally defined for centuries, it produces its opposite: personality disorder, mental illness, and systemic imbalance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) When I was a newbie meditator I had this hunger for enlightenment, I'd had the experiences of CC up to unity many times and thought it must be an enviable state to be in all the time. After quitting my job and moving in to an academy I started to notice that people who had been doing TM for decades were for the most part, erm, highly eccentric, occasionally aggressive and generally rather odd. At first I put it down to the fact that they'd either not done enough TM or maybe too much . I did meet the occasionally evolved person which seemed to make it all worthwhile. You know the type, they carry a bit of dignity and have no obvious hang-ups or emotional blocks or ego problems. Clear minded people that act lively and always seem well adjusted. I think it was Maslow who had studied people who he described as self-realised and the description fits well. But then his description included open-minded inquiry and TMer's tend to have a True Believer devotee attribute. So I came to the conclusion - perhaps unfairly - that they must have been that personally quite evolved or halfway there to start with. I've yet to see any evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions. The big question is: Is it worth crossing the street for? I've yet to see or hear anything from the TMO that makes me want to do TM with
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Yes, it is! I was watching my experience more closely, wrt this Support Of Nature: Just as we learn more and more through Yogic science, about the interconnectedness, and almost incredible complexity, of each of our internal organs, the liver, kidneys, heart, lungs and brain, etc., such an interconnected and vastly complex integration, takes place, both inside our physical form, and outside, in our world. By establishing oneself in Being, pure awareness, we gain the ability for a direct relationship, with the great host of celestial beings, bringing the world into harmony, for the fulfillment of our desires. Nature can for the first time, hear us directly. If one is not established in Being, the desires don't reach out very far, and a great deal of work and doubt will be necessary, to even have a chance of fulfillment - exhausting. This is why enlightenment is the birthright of every human being, to lift them out of struggling, into a world than fulfills their desires, every time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Maharishi pointed this benefit out in his Science of Creative Intelligence as a benefit from cultivating meditation. All the sages have in their turn through the ages from their experience point this out. Quite evidently is as a scientific observation that is replicated in experience when you get there. It is really quite wonderful as a benefit. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck Yes, it is called support of Nature as it comes to happen in spiritual life. It is a huge benefit of spiritual practice. Though is not really a new definition. It's a support like greasing the skids of life. It is pretty obvious. -Buck in the Dome Fleetwood observes: “..who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing [a] TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. fleetwood_macncheese wrote : Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. It takes one to know one. Who woulda thought.
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
No big deal, Richard. I very much understand his anger and frustration, being put under his own spotlight. His choice, and his consequences.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/24/2014 4:21 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. Maybe it's time for you to just keep your big pie hole shut about Jim. Almost everyone on this forum is pretty fed up with your phoney bullshit, Barry. Do I make myself clear? Over the years, I saw him levitate, as in sitting in lotus and just lifting up off the chair and hovering there in midair for minutes at a time, sometimes telling a joke the whole time. Or in the desert, he'd just step up off the sand and onto a staircase that wasn't there, and just climb up and down it for a while, several feet above the ground. - Barry Wright http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife/yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Nov-14 00:15:11 UTC
Since mac n cheese has become so popular, my bone to pick with it, is, It Must Be Baked, with all the cheese cooked, and a crust formed all over the outside. The microwave versions of this esteemed meal, pretty much suck. OK, that's my two cents... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I am not sure short sentence verbosity deserves any reward, but I was thinking of you tonight because I made mac and cheese for myself for dinner, plus some broccoli. That seems like a contradiction in terms and I can't find my way to seeing it as anything else, although I have tried. It's always a good idea, when eating a meal, to make sure that everything on the plate is not beige. Adding a bit of color usually means you are adding something healthy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Whee! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 465 messages as of (UTC) 11/26/14 00:01:35 105 fleetwood_macncheese
Re: [FairfieldLife] This is Pretty Good, Especially at the End
Very interesting about this brouhaha, being focused almost exclusively, on race. Whoever dreamt that up was an evil genius; divide and conquer. Here is a criminal, who has been shot during an altercation, by a policeman. No one examines the reason this kid was hell bent on a life of crime, as in no other real choice in his world. In addition, no one examines the correlation between putting oneself at risk (by punching a cop), and the result (harm or death). Nope, the media continues to drive the wedge between the common policeman, and the criminal, on the basis of race, allowing the hidden dynamics to continue, that bring about such tragedies. So, the result is a bunch of poor people further destroying their neighborhood, instead of working for economic and social justice. I wonder how long it will take, for this to repeat itself, someplace else? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : My absolute favorite bit in this was between minute 7 and 8 where Jon tells how a black man in Ferguson was beat by 4 cops and then charged with getting his blood on their uniforms. Spoiler alert: Jon shows a picture of tanks in Ferguson and says: They can afford tanks but they can't afford Tide sticks?! From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is Pretty Good, Especially at the End Taped back in August of this year. The Daily Show - Race/Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI The Daily Show - Race/Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI The shooting of an unarmed black teenager by the police in Ferguson, Missouri, strikes a racial nerve in the U.S., but Fox News manages to remain color... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
The odd thing is, if anyone on this board met me in person, I could happily spend even years with them, and never bring up the topics of TM, Maharishi, or enlightenment. The reason I do here, is simply because there are enough of us here, who understand the context. Talking about this stuff is not part of my everyday social and family life. It is a specialized knowledge that I acquired, and enjoy, but I don't like proselytizing, or discussing spirituality or religion, with most people. Instead, socially I am a sponge for any other kind of specialized knowledge, each of us has. I could spend hours discussing horses with Ann, or UFOs with Sal, or economics with Nabby, or music with Barry2. I tend to look at my spiritual life as something I hold quite privately, unless someone has a strong interest in this stuff. Most don't, and I am happy to interact accordingly. This includes, ZERO contact with any facet of the TM Organization. No practical value for me, in that.:-) I may visit Fairfield one of these days, and y'all can see for yourselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : salyavin, I think you make a good point that some TMers were simply born more stable or whatever. I've also noticed that kapha types are often very calm and grounded most of the time. Sometimes such people don't really get how different life is for other people who weren't born that way. So these types are stable, but they can lack vision and empathy. I think we all have our innate gifts and flaws. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) When I was a newbie meditator I had this hunger for enlightenment, I'd had the experiences of CC up to unity many times and thought it must be an enviable state to be in all the time. After quitting my job and moving in to an academy I started to notice that people who had been doing TM for decades were for the most part, erm, highly eccentric, occasionally aggressive and generally rather odd. At first I put it down to the fact that they'd either not done enough TM or maybe too much . I did meet the occasionally evolved person which seemed to make it all worthwhile. You know the type, they carry a bit of dignity and have no obvious hang-ups or emotional blocks or ego problems. Clear minded people that act lively and always seem well adjusted. I think it was Maslow who had studied people who he described as self-realised and the description fits well. But then his description included open-minded inquiry and TMer's tend to have a True Believer devotee attribute. So I came to the conclusion - perhaps unfairly - that they must have been that personally quite evolved or halfway there to start with. I've yet to see any evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions. The big question is: Is it worth crossing the street for? I've yet to see or hear anything from the TMO that makes me want to do TM with enlightenment as the goal, let alone sit around in a dome for hours every day. So I guess not, we will all answer the question differently I suppose and be happy with the answer we give ourselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. It takes one to know one. Who woulda thought.
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
No problem - Those addicted to The Waking State, always see the enlightened ones as their enemy. It is a fact of life, hence your visceral dislike of both me, and Maharishi. :-) Freddy gets a pass from you though - lol Better to do TM, asap, Barry, than continue this frustration over my enlightenment. Then, at the very least, you will know what you are talking about. For now, your ranting is simply a sad display of your ego-addiction. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Fleetwood would not be able to convince Barry he is enlightened as Barry regards him as a narcissistic bore. Trying to live up to my reputation for posting coherent and well-thought-out material (not to mention occasional brevity), I should point out that I can actually tolerate narcissistic bores. I studied many years each with Maharishi and Fred Lenz - Rama, after all. What I can't tolerate is unintelligent, uninteresting, buffoonish narcissistic bores. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
Here is Brahmananda Saraswati, talking about the six enemies (aka stress): In truth then victory is really this; for the one who has no risk of inner defeat. In truth, by the suppression only of outer (usual) enemies no one can become permanently victorious; because from those enemies there is no lasting suppression. True knowledge of victory occurs then from obtaining control over internal enemies. Really, only by the permanent subjugation of internal enemies is the subjugation of the external enemy achieved; because the inner enemy gives rise to the creation of the external enemies. The internal enemies are kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada (intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). This is really the shhaDarivarga, the group of six inner enemies which create any external enemies of the world; therefore if you wish to experience happiness and peace one must gain victory over all one's gross enemies, then you should cut off the place of birth of the six subtle enemies, kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada(intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). Without gaining victory over the shhaDarivarga (group of six enemies) then you cannot completely irradicate the external enemies. This is fixed. This is the proven experience of those who have gained victory over these internal subtle enemies, that if the birthplace of the external enemies becomes destroyed and all enemies have become eradicated then afterwards no enemies remain and in truth this is considered to be a real victory. For him the true and lasting store-house of happiness and peace is opened. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know. Samskaras are stress. The term doṣa literally means contamination but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc.. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
Yes, even after his passing, Maharishi makes it clear that devotion goes to Guru Dev. The mechanics are simply his intention, carried out by Nature. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It's not odd. Even though many naturally see Maharishi as their guru because he was the one we interacted with for decades, he himself always reminded us from where the teaching came. He even said that Guru Dev is our Guru, not him. It's rather obvious that Guru Dev is the teacher for those who perhaps never met Maharishi. Rare footage of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Los Angeles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA Rare footage of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Los Angeles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA http://www.tm.org Rare footage of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi walking through a crowd of people to get to a lecture hall. Maharishi: Laughing Los Angeles has b... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA Preview by Yahoo Guru Dev Shankaracharya Brahmananda Saraswati जय गुरुदेव Jai Guru Deva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 Guru Dev Shankaracharya Brahmananda Saraswati जय गुर... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 Movie footage of Guru Dev, Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, believed to have been filmed in Lucknow, India, circa April 1952. Visible ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Odd thing - Although I am immeasurably indebted to Maharishi for bringing out the knowledge, to basically reverse the trends of time, as he so aptly put it, my devotion and the natural direction of my heart, always goes to SBS. On the one hand, overflowing gratitude to Maharishi, but the overflowing love always flows to Guru Dev. Not that I ever think twice about it. :-) Welcome Tormod, I am 1/8 Norwegian (paternal grandmother was 1/2), though have not yet visited there, in this lifetime. I was pleasantly surprised to read recently that Norway is the wealthiest country in the world - No wonder TM is so popular there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hello Tormod, you seem to be a reasonable fellow. Please note that my comment was not directed at you specifically but rather in the direction of Paul Mason based on a comment Maharishi made some years ago that in the future some will try to sow discontent and doubts by trying to convince people of how devoted they are to Guru Dev. Their ultimate motifs could be to weaken the practice of meditation amongst TM'ers. It's something to keep in mind, nothing to be overly concerned about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Hei (Norwegian greeting), Thanks! I have no idea of Nabby's identity, and may not try to find out either. Now, there is one more thing - Maharishi did a lot to keep the TM movement rolling, and TM surely helps a lot. I am glad that much research has confirmed it. I have a lot to be grateful for - my life, too, I can tell. Loving greetings, -- Tormod Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] This is Pretty Good, Especially at the End
Yes, excellent! Anybody can watch this and get the point, for themselves, white, black, or green. And, bonus, he's a Niners fan! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Fredrick Wilson II is one smart young man! http://youtu.be/gPUcA7yrErg http://youtu.be/gPUcA7yrErg Fredrick Wilson II is one smart young man! http://youtu.be/gPUcA7yrErg This is such a smart young man! Fredrick Wilson II You should follow him on FB https://www.facebook.com/fredrick.i.wilson?fref=photo I wish he h... View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/gPUcA7yrErg Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting about this brouhaha, being focused almost exclusively, on race. Whoever dreamt that up was an evil genius; divide and conquer. Here is a criminal, who has been shot during an altercation, by a policeman. No one examines the reason this kid was hell bent on a life of crime, as in no other real choice in his world. In addition, no one examines the correlation between putting oneself at risk (by punching a cop), and the result (harm or death). Nope, the media continues to drive the wedge between the common policeman, and the criminal, on the basis of race, allowing the hidden dynamics to continue, that bring about such tragedies. So, the result is a bunch of poor people further destroying their neighborhood, instead of working for economic and social justice. I wonder how long it will take, for this to repeat itself, someplace else? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : My absolute favorite bit in this was between minute 7 and 8 where Jon tells how a black man in Ferguson was beat by 4 cops and then charged with getting his blood on their uniforms. Spoiler alert: Jon shows a picture of tanks in Ferguson and says: They can afford tanks but they can't afford Tide sticks?! From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is Pretty Good, Especially at the End Taped back in August of this year. The Daily Show - Race/Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI The Daily Show - Race/Off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI The shooting of an unarmed black teenager by the police in Ferguson, Missouri, strikes a racial nerve in the U.S., but Fox News manages to remain color... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
Being in the waking state is not a matter of addiction. Spoken like a True Addict!! :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Being in the waking state is not a matter of addiction, one simply is in it or not. Were it true that those 'addicted to the Waking State' see enlightened ones as their enemy, no guru would ever have a job, because everyone starting out is stuck there. In terms of schemes of enlightenment, a person in deep sleep, dreaming, or waking has no choice in the matter. CC, GC, UC, and BC are also waking states, if you assume these states also exist. The term 'addicted to' is simply to cast aspersion. Those who come to FFL certainly ought to be able to see that those here, enlightened, or on the enlightenment path, or having abandoned the enlightenment path, are all rather unpleasant people, by virtue of what we write, and by virtue of what we write about each other. In person, maybe, some us might be more tolerable. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : No problem - Those addicted to The Waking State, always see the enlightened ones as their enemy. It is a fact of life, hence your visceral dislike of both me, and Maharishi. :-) Freddy gets a pass from you though - lol Better to do TM, asap, Barry, than continue this frustration over my enlightenment. Then, at the very least, you will know what you are talking about. For now, your ranting is simply a sad display of your ego-addiction. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Fleetwood would not be able to convince Barry he is enlightened as Barry regards him as a narcissistic bore. Trying to live up to my reputation for posting coherent and well-thought-out material (not to mention occasional brevity), I should point out that I can actually tolerate narcissistic bores. I studied many years each with Maharishi and Fred Lenz - Rama, after all. What I can't tolerate is unintelligent, uninteresting, buffoonish narcissistic bores. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY's catch-all phrase for the doshas is 'stress'
Thank you. Yep - Maharishi was probably wise to leave alone any sort of moral precepts, as he wanted the TM technique available as widely as possible, vs. taking on the various religious creeds. As desires become more comprehensive, these enemies must be faced anyway, and resolved, so that further growth is possible. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Fleetwood-Nice quote, the real Jihad is the inner one, though that is accomplished by the inner AND outer disciplines. This is the REAL teaching of Yoga as defined by SBS and loosely referred to by MMY. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Here is Brahmananda Saraswati, talking about the six enemies (aka stress): In truth then victory is really this; for the one who has no risk of inner defeat. In truth, by the suppression only of outer (usual) enemies no one can become permanently victorious; because from those enemies there is no lasting suppression. True knowledge of victory occurs then from obtaining control over internal enemies. Really, only by the permanent subjugation of internal enemies is the subjugation of the external enemy achieved; because the inner enemy gives rise to the creation of the external enemies. The internal enemies are kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada (intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). This is really the shhaDarivarga, the group of six inner enemies which create any external enemies of the world; therefore if you wish to experience happiness and peace one must gain victory over all one's gross enemies, then you should cut off the place of birth of the six subtle enemies, kaama (lust), krodha (anger), lobha (greed), moha (delusion), mada(intoxification) and maatsarya (jealousy). Without gaining victory over the shhaDarivarga (group of six enemies) then you cannot completely irradicate the external enemies. This is fixed. This is the proven experience of those who have gained victory over these internal subtle enemies, that if the birthplace of the external enemies becomes destroyed and all enemies have become eradicated then afterwards no enemies remain and in truth this is considered to be a real victory. For him the true and lasting store-house of happiness and peace is opened. Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Doshas aren't stress, in Maharishi's eyes, as far as I know. Samskaras are stress. The term doṣa literally means contamination but I don't think that Maharishi ever used it in that sense. That is more a Buddhist thing to use doṣa to refer to lust, etc.. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you beginning to 'get' what MMY was talking about when he was talking about stress? Lust, Anger, Greed to name a few, (the doshas). These, are the sleeping elephants MMY used to talk about in the early days, IMHO.
[FairfieldLife] Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hilarious; from fantasizing about butt fucking babies to: I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. The Turq is coherent indeed :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/26/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: My output is what it is because I am more coherent and a better thinker. HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The_Last_Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
Yep, an easy way to slake the lust of the participants, all dressed up as something else, to provide a social context. Like they say, no one buys Playboy, to read the articles - lol. Yes, a pretty simple arrangement, but maybe too simple, especially for any kids. Personally, I would find it impossible to give all of my heart, to two or more women - There are literally endless ways of demonstrating love, and being loving, even in marriage - gasp. I don't see any need to complicate things further. My wife just bought me a t-shirt, that reads, If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping. My wife occasionally enjoys a nip of scotch, and has always been a dancer, so the one I bought her, reads, vertically: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I would be surprised if there was a five year plan in such relationships. I'd be surprised if there was a three year plan. But the idea of having three parents, and then having one of them voted off the island, or deciding to vamoose would seem to be more detrimental to a child than a divorce between two parents. But I don't think it is a matter of simply living and loving together. I think the policy dictates an open door to any short term or long term sexual relationship. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, polyamory is basically there, to take care of lust. Humans, though, do themselves a disservice getting addicted to it. Part of Barry's many problems, is that he never made the transition, from lust, to intimacy (which incorporates plenty of lust), and doesn't understand the difference - hence, no long-term relationships for him, ever. I doubt he has even lived with a woman for longer than a year, during his entire adult life. He just doesn't get it. Maybe. What I think is that although it is in the nature of mammals, including us, to be controlled to a certain extent by our hormones and our egos, we are prone to being attracted to a number of different sexual partners during our lifetime. On the other hand, there is also some deep-seated desire to share with and to be loved and nurtured by another and for long periods of time. We seem to like to be liked and looked after and appreciated and we crave a certain level of security. The idea of marriage seems to provide this. The reality can be quite different but that hasn't kept a lot of us from attempting marriage nevertheless. To start to introduce the elements of multiple partners all living and loving together under the same roof and throw a child into that mix then all of the complications inherent in monogamous relationships seem to be able to exponentially increase because human traits tend to get thrown wildly into the mix. Chief among these characteristics would be jealousy, possessiveness, envy, lack of self confidence, doubt. But I am willing to investigate further - not as a possibility for myself - but as a general peek into what motivates people to share their sexual love with multiple partners while at the same time thinking of their relationships as way deeper than sex and need.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's the cult thinking, stupid!
Didn't get much sleep, huh? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I hope I've made my point to lurkers and those with somewhat open minds. All I had to do was use a little colorful language to describe Maharishi, and the four extreme cultists on this forum went fucking crazy attacking me. I suggest that what Richard Williams, Jim Flanegin, Ann, and Steve have done in response to that is some of the purest CULT BEHAVIOR I've ever seen. It follows a pattern I've been trying to document on this forum since I arrived on it, a tendency to react to anyone who criticizes, makes fun of, or (worst) shows zero respect for the person they're guru-whipped by with anger, hatred, and a dedicated attempt to get them. Richard has demonstrated a willingness to lie to do this, signing my name to things I didn't write. Jim has demonstrated a willingness to stalk me on the Internet to find photos that he can then crop and caption to make them look more sinister, and Ann and Steve have demonstrated that they'll pounce on any subject (in this most recent case, polyamory) that allows them to get Barry. Did I provoke these people by intentionally pushing their buttons? You betcha. I wanted to put their reactivity -- and the nature of it -- on display. I think I succeeded. These four people, more than anything else, demonstrate why I consider TM a cult, and FFL a cult forum. These people were all TRAINED to act like this. You may not like my tactics -- or me -- very much, but please watch these four in the future. They will probably continue to attack me, but watch how they treat *others* who dare to criticize Maharishi or TMers. They'll use the same tactics. If I've helped even a few people to see this, then I've succeeded.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
If I was living with him, I would politely, but firmly, ask him to leave, or keep a very sharp eye out - especially with children present. He refers to it, as, colorful language. Then proceeds to put the blame, for his very disturbing thoughts, on those who call him out. Not because we are cult members, but because we are normal, decent human beings. Barry is in denial about this, and that can be a warning sign, too. Judy used to caution about Barry's mental illness. I thought she was exaggerating - Now, I am not so sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. Let's just hope he's drunk. I thought I'd seen the worst of him on FFL but he's starting to show us more and more of what he's got inside of him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann - do your dogs look to the right?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Their right, of course - as it is their left brain that's going into action when they respond with understanding. I wonder if you have subconsciously noticed the response even if you haven't registered it on the conscious level. I knew that, I was just joking with you. But I will watch and report back. Sorry, I'm confused - Are you saying it is not their right, to turn right, but they will always not turn left, anyway?? Or left to their own, they would possibly make it their right, to not turn left?? Right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : From The Telegraph: If you are worried that your dog is not paying attention to what you are saying simply look at where is he is staring. Dogs look to the right when they recognise familiar commands because they process the sound in a specific part of their brains which remembers that the sound is important. Researchers at the University of Sussex discovered that dogs respond to speech in much the same way as humans do, processing recognisable sounds in the left hemisphere of the brain. In contrast, unusual noises or speech,are processed in the right hemisphere of the brain. However due to cross-wiring in the brain, if a dog turns to the right it means the left side of the brain is processing the words and vice versa. Researchers looked at how dogs responded when their owners told them to ‘come on.’ When presented with familiar spoken commands, in a usual tone, dogs showed a left-hemisphere processing bias and turned to the right, indicating that they recognised what was being said. However when the command was said in a different tone and speed, the dogs could no longer process it as a familiar sound and so looked to the left. Hmmm, my dogs look at me when I speak to them but I will check it out next time. I have four to keep track of so it might take me a day or two to get back at you. And are we talking about their right or my right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
No problem, kiddo - You got nuttin', and I am enjoying this. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Hmmm. Assuming he sleeps at least 6 hours a night, that's almost 2.5 posts per hour, for two days. I'd better lay off of Jimbo before he melts down completely. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC Line on water, or on the ropes? You decide. Seems to me that someone this desperate to defend himself has an awful lot of self to defend. From: FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 378 messages as of (UTC) 11/25/14 00:04:36 84 fleetwood_macncheese
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
Oh damn, Sal, please airmail me that list you and Barry made up. You know, the one entitled, How An Enlightened Person Is Supposed To Act, And Not Hand Me My Ass With Both Hands. I'm waiting...:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Line on water, or on the ropes? You decide. Seems to me that someone this desperate to defend himself has an awful lot of self to defend. Ah, but he is speaking from the home of all the laws of nature so that's a lot of extra energy from the unified field to give him a much needed boost when he's flagging. And I think you should cut him some slack, you forget that he's doing spontaneous right action so it isn't like he gets a choice. Personally I feel sorry for him, imagine attaining the highest of the high, the goal of realising your birthright and then you spend all day searching the internet for photo's of people you don't like and putting juvenile captions on them. I don't remember that in the brochure. Jai Guru Dev! Go figure From: FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 378 messages as of (UTC) 11/25/14 00:04:36 84 fleetwood_macncheese
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
I don't wait in line, Mr. Carved In Stone - lol. This is like doing spiritual stand up... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Line on water, or on the ropes? You decide. Seems to me that someone this desperate to defend himself has an awful lot of self to defend. From: FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 378 messages as of (UTC) 11/25/14 00:04:36 84 fleetwood_macncheese
[FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS
You know that sign in gift shops, you break it, you buy it? Same thing applies here - We own the mess. I was a little naive about our intentions in Iraq when we went in the first time, but after I saw the deliberate sacking of their national museum, and have recognized since that we were solely protecting our interests, their culture be damned. This being the case, we will only attract those who need work, into the Iraqi army, not those who truly want to defend their country. Remember Vietnamization, where we trained a similar army in S. Vietnam, to fight their own battles? The country was overrun in a couple of years. Same thing will happen in Iraq, if we don't land troops again. What a mess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Entrenched corruption in the Iraqi military is undermining the fight against the Islamic State. This is the downside in relying on a questionable army to carry out the task of suppressing the Islamists. If conditions get worse, US troops may end up fighting in Iraq again. In the meantime, Iran is secretly working on acquiring Iraq if things fall apart. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
can you say, flop sweat? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'm sure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions about which public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. It just doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment to such a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of the opposite sex clams up and refuses to talk about it every time the subject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying, Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniques that allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all of you. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented Drag Queen Yoga™ with you for free, fuggedaboudit. You'll have to shell out the big bucks, just like Catholics do when seeking advice from the guys in *that* church who wear dresses. At least Jim posted a couple of real pictures of you. And it's killing you. I know I might rot in hell for this but I'm loving the fact that he made you squirm and you're still squirming.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. It takes one to know one. Who woulda thought.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Yes, if there is anything mystical I experience in life, it is the support of Nature. Absolute magic. Allows me to accomplish anything I set my mind to, with obstacles eliminated before the task begins. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, it is called support of Nature as it comes to happen in spiritual life. It is a huge benefit of spiritual practice. Though is not really a new definition. It's support like greasing the skids of life. It is pretty obvious. -Buck in the Dome Fleetwood observes: “..who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing [a] TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. fleetwood_macncheese wrote : Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. It takes one to know one. Who woulda thought.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
Search Facebook Accounts?? Are you hallucinating, too? I despise Facebook, and would NEVER have an account on there. That site is for overgrown pimply teenagers like yourself, imo. I found your pictures, in five seconds, with the following search string on Google: Barry Wright Leiden polyamory Try it.:-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Line on water, or on the ropes? You decide. Seems to me that someone this desperate to defend himself has an awful lot of self to defend. Ah, but he is speaking from the home of all the laws of nature so that's a lot of extra energy from the unified field to give him a much needed boost when he's flagging. And I think you should cut him some slack, you forget that he's doing spontaneous right action so it isn't like he gets a choice. Personally I feel sorry for him, imagine attaining the highest of the high, the goal of realising your birthright and then you spend all day searching the internet for photo's of people you don't like and putting juvenile captions on them. I don't remember that in the brochure. Jai Guru Dev! Go figure Thank you so much for pointing this out, Salyavin. Checking the Post Count this morning and realizing exactly *how* obsessed with me Jimbo has become, I had decided to lay off of him anyway, out of compassion. But your interpretation of his actions provides an even more compassionate view of him, and one that flatters *me* as well. If you are right, he really can't help but obsess on me, because the Laws Of Nature are forcing him to. But if you think it through, for the Laws Of Nature to make an Enlightened One obsess enough on little ol' me to write 40+ posts about me a day, they (the Laws Of Nature) must consider *me* pretty fuckin' important. Are they likely to force an Enlightened One to write 2.5 posts an hour about just anybody? No way. I must really rock. And the photos? The Laws Of Nature forced him to search not only my Facebook account, but to search the Facebook accounts of several other people (my FB Friends) to find them. The Laws Of Nature must think I'm pretty important, to force an Enlightened One to violate the privacy of people he's never even met or exchanged posts with. Clearly, I rock even more. So I'm going to swing behind your interpretation of Jimbo's actions, Sal, and cut him some slack. I'll stop bugging him about pretending to be a woman on FFL for months, because hey!...the Laws Of Nature probably forced him to do *that*, too. They also probably forced him to deny having done it, when he got caught at it. Interestingly, the most fascinating (and most compassionate) thing about your interpretation of Jimbo's actions, Sal, is that it works *whether he's enlightened or not*. If I'm wrong and he is enlightened, then according to Maharishi *of course* he has no will of his own and is just acting out the will of the Laws Of Nature. It's *them* doing the creepy stalking, not him. And if I'm right and instead of being enlightened he's just crazier than a bedbug, he *still* has no will of his own. It's the bad chemicals in his brain that are making him do things like stalk people he doesn't like (or know) and pretend to be a woman. Either way -- enlightened or insane -- he's off the hook. I'm still trying to work out how this works for the *others* who are stalking me, though. Y'know...Richard, Ann, and Steve. They're essentially obsessing on me almost as much as Jimbo is. Does this mean that *they* are enlightened, too, or that they're crazy, too? Curious minds want to know. :-) From: FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 378 messages as of (UTC) 11/25/14 00:04:36 84 fleetwood_macncheese
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
You have a very telling habit, Barry. Every time you get your butt seriously kicked, the other person automatically becomes crazy. Enjoy those boot prints on your buttocks, big boy. You have insulted, demeaned, distorted and slandered so many people on here, due to your hubris, sadistic tendencies, and ignorance. I am enjoying the payback, as are many others. You are an asshole, who has insisted on my attention, so enjoy it, while you've got it. :-) :-) :-) Or you could just start TM, and transform into a much nicer, more socially and financially responsible person. But you won't - you seem to enjoy putting your brokenness on display, and I'll gladly continue to play the spotlight on your performance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said, especially: I've yet to see any evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions. That's really it, the bottom line for me, too. From December of 1967 (when I started TM) to the present, *I have not met a single TMer* who I would consider enlightened, using traditional definitions of that term. Those TMers who have claimed to be enlightened have IMO *all* fallen into the categories you name above -- personality disordered, mentally ill, or imbalanced. I am *not* saying this to be mean, or to diss TM. I'm saying it because it's true. I really *haven't* met even a single person who practiced TM whom I would suspect of being enlightened. Not even one. Just to make the distinction clear, I *have* met people from other spiritual traditions who I have suspected were enlightened. I don't know for sure, of course, and never will, but at least there was a *possibility* with these individuals that I was talking with someone enlightened, rather than someone personality disordered, mentally ill, or imbalanced. With anyone who had spent any time in the TM movement, it was impossible for me to entertain that possibility. I have to believe, therefore -- based on my personal experience -- that TM not only does *not* produce enlightenment as it has been traditionally defined for centuries, it produces its opposite: personality disorder, mental illness, and systemic imbalance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, this is what angers and frustrates those in the waking state. They are ego bound, and yet feel stupid and inadequate, in the presence of someone enlightened. You can watch the results as we speak. Quite a show, and a huge waste of time for these beginners, who, had they ANY sense at all, would be doing TM, instead of trying to see how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Not that I mind. :-) When I was a newbie meditator I had this hunger for enlightenment, I'd had the experiences of CC up to unity many times and thought it must be an enviable state to be in all the time. After quitting my job and moving in to an academy I started to notice that people who had been doing TM for decades were for the most part, erm, highly eccentric, occasionally aggressive and generally rather odd. At first I put it down to the fact that they'd either not done enough TM or maybe too much . I did meet the occasionally evolved person which seemed to make it all worthwhile. You know the type, they carry a bit of dignity and have no obvious hang-ups or emotional blocks or ego problems. Clear minded people that act lively and always seem well adjusted. I think it was Maslow who had studied people who he described as self-realised and the description fits well. But then his description included open-minded inquiry and TMer's tend to have a True Believer devotee attribute. So I came to the conclusion - perhaps unfairly - that they must have been that personally quite evolved or halfway there to start with. I've yet to see any evidence that so-called enlightenment via TM is anything other than a personality disorder or even mental illness. Or at least an imbalance of some sort in the way the brain usually balances ego and other hormonal functions. The big question is: Is it worth crossing the street for? I've yet to see or hear anything from the TMO that makes me want to do TM with enlightenment as the goal, let alone sit around in a dome for hours every day. So I guess not, we will all answer the question differently I suppose and be happy with the answer we give ourselves.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened
Thanksgiving will be a glorious holiday this year! A great time to get together - self, family, socially, and nationally. I am really looking forward to it. It has been difficult to commercialize, beyond The Feast, and remains a tradition, our only one in this country, where the purpose is simply to share thanks, and get together, as a people, and as a tribe, albeit a rather large, unwieldy one. Its good for us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : thanks, Feste, maybe see you on Thanksgiving... From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 9:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened I agree with Share on this. I remember seeing some posts from enlightened_dawn and never for a moment thought the handle referred to a woman named Dawn. I assumed it was a variation on dawn of the age of enlightenment that MMY used to say, like an enlightened dawn. The idea that the poster was pretending to be a woman is ridiculous. You might as well say that TurquoiseBee is pretending to be a turquoise bee. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : That is one interpretation, but I have started to read some of those old posts. I have not found the part where Jim supposedly says he is a woman as search is really only partially functional in Neo, and not much better in the archive, but Barry ragged on him about it back then. And Jim denied that enlightened_dawn11 was him, and also said, as enlightened_dawn11, that he/she was new to the forum, even though Jim seemed to have been on the forum for about a year before that under his own name. So my research is incomplete, and I will be busy for the next few days, so I do not know when I will have time to read more of that. The exchanges between Barry and Jim back then seem pretty much the way they run now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, I've always assumed that Fleetwood's dawn name meant something like enlightened sunrise. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened Isn't it fascinating that after all these years Jim Flanegin STILL can't admit that he posed as a woman here on Fairfield Life for several months, posting as enlightened_dawn all that time? One *really* has to wonder 1) what the fuck he was *thinking* doing that, and for so long, and 2) what is wrong with his supporters that they manage to ignore it. It's really the biggest elephant in the room display of denial and cognitive dissonance in the history of the forum, even bigger than Robin Carlsen trying to continue denying that he'd hit his students, immediately after having admitted it. The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. When you think about it, that's no weirder than convincing himself he's enlightened. Whatever. Bottom line is that it's probably a good thing he's living way out in the boonies now, where he can't hurt anyone if he has another similar breakdown. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS
Good point - Better if we had seen this ahead of time, and not made the incursion. And now in Afghanistan (where opium growing is wy up, since our invasion), we'll be there indefinitely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Funny thing is... we had it won by 2008. We had an Iraqi army in training... yes training and relative calm and order established when our *Dear One* decided that He needed to fulfill his campaign promise to bring the troops home, before the Iraqis were really ready. Now we're in this current situation that Bush and everyone else warned would happen if we left prematurely. How long would we have needed to stay? Who knows? We still have troops in Duetschland and Japan and they aren't seen as occupiers but as allies. Four thousand lives, hundreds of thousands of minds and limbs, trillions of dollars, and hopes for a stabilizing force for peace in a region, flushed down the toilet for a campaign promise and now we may be need to return and do it all again or face a worse situation. Did you notice, barely mentioned in the news, that the troops are not coming home from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, as promised? Yes, now they're staying... indefinitely. Surprise surprise! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS You know that sign in gift shops, you break it, you buy it? Same thing applies here - We own the mess. I was a little naive about our intentions in Iraq when we went in the first time, but after I saw the deliberate sacking of their national museum, and have recognized since that we were solely protecting our interests, their culture be damned. This being the case, we will only attract those who need work, into the Iraqi army, not those who truly want to defend their country. Remember Vietnamization, where we trained a similar army in S. Vietnam, to fight their own battles? The country was overrun in a couple of years. Same thing will happen in Iraq, if we don't land troops again. What a mess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Entrenched corruption in the Iraqi military is undermining the fight against the Islamic State. This is the downside in relying on a questionable army to carry out the task of suppressing the Islamists. If conditions get worse, US troops may end up fighting in Iraq again. In the meantime, Iran is secretly working on acquiring Iraq if things fall apart. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS
There is no way, at all, to end the war within you, MJ. Even if I did exactly as you say in your post. Next, it would be your burnt toast, or your stubbed toe, or the fight you had with your wife. Peace begins within. Otherwise, it just causes you more misery to blame your lack of same, on something else. Hope you have a good Thanksgiving (and I wouldn't broach your favorite rant at the table, either, just this once...). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : How can an enlightened person be naive? And according to TMO knowledge that they got from Mahesh the Fraud Varma, all that should be necessary to end the wars in that area of the world would be for you and all the other at least 10,000 TM enlightened people to go to the Middle East and just hang around and your sattva will automatically and spontaneously eliminate all the stress, conflict and negativity. So what you waiting for? Why don't you use your enlightenment and organize all the other TM enlightened to do a end the war trip to the Mid East? Eh? Put your ass where your mouth is - this would be a fine way to PROVE your enlightenment and the fact that Mahesh the Fraud Varma was not a fraud and the TMO is legit. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS You know that sign in gift shops, you break it, you buy it? Same thing applies here - We own the mess. I was a little naive about our intentions in Iraq when we went in the first time, but after I saw the deliberate sacking of their national museum, and have recognized since that we were solely protecting our interests, their culture be damned. This being the case, we will only attract those who need work, into the Iraqi army, not those who truly want to defend their country. Remember Vietnamization, where we trained a similar army in S. Vietnam, to fight their own battles? The country was overrun in a couple of years. Same thing will happen in Iraq, if we don't land troops again. What a mess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Entrenched corruption in the Iraqi military is undermining the fight against the Islamic State. This is the downside in relying on a questionable army to carry out the task of suppressing the Islamists. If conditions get worse, US troops may end up fighting in Iraq again. In the meantime, Iran is secretly working on acquiring Iraq if things fall apart. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
Wouldn't work for me, but if others are into it, like most things that aren't hurting me or costing me money, I really have no opinion on it, one way or the other. It doesn't seem like a viable set-up for most people, long-term. Barring any sort of legal agreement, I would hope that plans are in place, to ensure any child's happiness, and continued security, should the arrangement end. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Search Facebook Accounts?? Are you hallucinating, too? I despise Facebook, and would NEVER have an account on there. That site is for overgrown pimply teenagers like yourself, imo. I found your pictures, in five seconds, with the following search string on Google: Barry Wright Leiden polyamory Try it.:-) :-) :-) Yes, interesting. It turns out the lampshade is a paper hat on his head. Some insights into bawee's life here; he seems nicer when not at FFL. I wonder why that is? The whole subject of polyamory is interesting. Reading about the dad in the family I wonder how willing he would be to share his daughter Maya with outside families - allow her to live and be loved and kept and nourished/raised by other households in the same way he is willing to allow his lovers the same freedoms. He does say that Maya especially is the light of his life, his main love so I would have to wonder if he wouldn't want to hold her much closer to himself in every way, but only he could tell us that. I have lots of ideas about polyamory and I know it has been sort of discussed here but bawee, as usual, was criticizing and abusing anyone who had qualms about it. Maybe because he doesn't read 90% of the posters here we could have a civilized discussion about it now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Exactly. Perhaps we could request from Yahoo Groups, a virtual doggy bag, placed on the screen, and every time Barry behaves himself, he gets a doggy treat, or virtual pat on the head. However, too much barking, or making a mess on the floor, and the bag would disappear for awhile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/24/2014 5:08 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Now, now. You don't want to insult dogs, do you? :-) empty shill or turqey? From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:emptybill@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I believe that's spelled Pundit Çur.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS
Yep, I agree with jr's suggestion, and too, that most in the US have world policeman fatigue, and no desire for another war. So, the best we can probably hope for, is to continue strategic strikes in the region, and contain the menace, to some degree. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : John, I agree 100%. However, I can't see Obama ever putting together a coalition to do that. Nobody in the world trusts that guy! Remember all those red lines in the sand? Do you think Ukrainians would beleive him? How about Poland, Israel or any of our Arab allies? I think not. Obama has ruined any trust we had with traditional allies and our enemies look at his as a wimp. As for the UN sending troops, that's laughable. Unfortunately, any heavy lifting would have to be done by us. We have the strength, power, military and economy to do itbut no will. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS Mike, As I mentioned to Fleetwood, the solution is to have an international force to eliminate IS, maintain the peace and stability in the land. This should not be shouldered by the USA exclusively. The Arab and European countries should contribute their share of troop strength in this endeavor. As a matter of fact, the UN should send their own troops there too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Funny thing is... we had it won by 2008. We had an Iraqi army in training... yes training and relative calm and order established when our *Dear One* decided that He needed to fulfill his campaign promise to bring the troops home, before the Iraqis were really ready. Now we're in this current situation that Bush and everyone else warned would happen if we left prematurely. How long would we have needed to stay? Who knows? We still have troops in Duetschland and Japan and they aren't seen as occupiers but as allies. Four thousand lives, hundreds of thousands of minds and limbs, trillions of dollars, and hopes for a stabilizing force for peace in a region, flushed down the toilet for a campaign promise and now we may be need to return and do it all again or face a worse situation. Did you notice, barely mentioned in the news, that the troops are not coming home from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, as promised? Yes, now they're staying... indefinitely. Surprise surprise! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS You know that sign in gift shops, you break it, you buy it? Same thing applies here - We own the mess. I was a little naive about our intentions in Iraq when we went in the first time, but after I saw the deliberate sacking of their national museum, and have recognized since that we were solely protecting our interests, their culture be damned. This being the case, we will only attract those who need work, into the Iraqi army, not those who truly want to defend their country. Remember Vietnamization, where we trained a similar army in S. Vietnam, to fight their own battles? The country was overrun in a couple of years. Same thing will happen in Iraq, if we don't land troops again. What a mess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Entrenched corruption in the Iraqi military is undermining the fight against the Islamic State. This is the downside in relying on a questionable army to carry out the task of suppressing the Islamists. If conditions get worse, US troops may end up fighting in Iraq again. In the meantime, Iran is secretly working on acquiring Iraq if things fall apart. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS
No, you are being naive - lol Seriously, global military spending amounts to two and a half percent of world GDP. That's 97.5 percent, for other stuff. So, it is not the driver of the global economy, or vision, that you imply. However, it is nearly two trillion dollars, and that is a lot of potential cars, schools, houses, buildings, water systems, roads, etc., that don't happen. http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending World military expenditure in 2012 is estimated to have reached $1.756 trillion; This is a 0.4 per cent decrease in real terms than in 2011 — the first fall since 1998; The total is still higher than in any year between the end of World War II and 2010; This corresponds to 2.5 per cent of world gross domestic product (GDP), or approximately $249 for each person in the world ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You are being naive. The international community WANTS this situation - war is good for business. The more fighting there is the more money both governments and the arms manufacturers and arms dealers make, not to mention the lobbying groups who lobby the guv'ment on behalf of the arms makers and defense contractors. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS Mike, As I mentioned to Fleetwood, the solution is to have an international force to eliminate IS, maintain the peace and stability in the land. This should not be shouldered by the USA exclusively. The Arab and European countries should contribute their share of troop strength in this endeavor. As a matter of fact, the UN should send their own troops there too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Funny thing is... we had it won by 2008. We had an Iraqi army in training... yes training and relative calm and order established when our *Dear One* decided that He needed to fulfill his campaign promise to bring the troops home, before the Iraqis were really ready. Now we're in this current situation that Bush and everyone else warned would happen if we left prematurely. How long would we have needed to stay? Who knows? We still have troops in Duetschland and Japan and they aren't seen as occupiers but as allies. Four thousand lives, hundreds of thousands of minds and limbs, trillions of dollars, and hopes for a stabilizing force for peace in a region, flushed down the toilet for a campaign promise and now we may be need to return and do it all again or face a worse situation. Did you notice, barely mentioned in the news, that the troops are not coming home from Afghanistan by the end of 2014, as promised? Yes, now they're staying... indefinitely. Surprise surprise! From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: US-Supplied Weapons End Up With IS You know that sign in gift shops, you break it, you buy it? Same thing applies here - We own the mess. I was a little naive about our intentions in Iraq when we went in the first time, but after I saw the deliberate sacking of their national museum, and have recognized since that we were solely protecting our interests, their culture be damned. This being the case, we will only attract those who need work, into the Iraqi army, not those who truly want to defend their country. Remember Vietnamization, where we trained a similar army in S. Vietnam, to fight their own battles? The country was overrun in a couple of years. Same thing will happen in Iraq, if we don't land troops again. What a mess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Entrenched corruption in the Iraqi military is undermining the fight against the Islamic State. This is the downside in relying on a questionable army to carry out the task of suppressing the Islamists. If conditions get worse, US troops may end up fighting in Iraq again. In the meantime, Iran is secretly working on acquiring Iraq if things fall apart. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iraq-corrupt-government-weapons-reportedly-133416968.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Nov-14 00:15:11 UTC
Whee! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : They don't call you fleet (of foot) for nothing. Look at you go! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 465 messages as of (UTC) 11/26/14 00:01:35 105 fleetwood_macncheese 52 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 40 awoelflebater 37 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 37 Michael Jackson mjackson74 29 Share Long sharelong60 26 nablusoss1008 22 Bhairitu noozguru 18 steve.sundur 18 salyavin808 12 jr_esq 11 anartaxius 10 dhamiltony2k5 9 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 6 j_alexander_stanley 6 LEnglish5 5 s3raphita 5 Tormod Kinnes tkinnes 3 emptybill 2 jason_green2 2 email4you mikemail4you 2 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius 1 wgm4u 1 tkinnes 1 srijau 1 hepa7 1 feste37 1 eustace10679 1 WLeed3 1 'Rick Archer' rick Posters: 30 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Sure, but it is not relevant to anything I have said. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Jim, I like that, what you have written below. I commend taxius on writing something that I find interesting, and concrete. Maybe it is just a waking state perspective, but it is at least something I can understand. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Steve, perhaps anartaxius has staked out a brilliant position with regard to waking state. You know, the one where we have static beliefs, and play a stupid game of duality. So what? Enlightenment is BY ITS VERY NATURE, non-attachment, and so these types of carefully crafted scenarios, designed to challenge one side of a duality, don't mean jack to an enlightened person. An enlightened person can obviously express an idea, in the moment, but to try to hold onto a belief, is impossible. The nervous system no longer supports it. Beliefs are used as crutches, and an enlightened person doesn't need crutches. It is a different way of functioning than before. Less thought - more silence, and more direct action. The integration of the subjective and the objective; always a proponent of Reality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Damn, nothing like bring the conversation down to earth. I find it both readable and interesting. I think it is one thing to be the devils advocate, which is a means to have someone defend, or clarify their position. It is quite another thing to engage in cavil, or at least misrepresentations for the purposes of getting a rise out of people, or really, to just elevate one's point of view. You obviously see the dynamics here differently, which is fine, but at least you've staked out your position, and I respect you for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than Barry. One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep thought. People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain flexibility to deal with it without going nuts. There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Yes, thank you. Adyashanti made a statement about spiritual immaturity, that I thought was very telling, and showing up here on FFL in spades. Everyone likes to talk about being on the path and this insight and that. But no will ever mention that they have reached the goal. It is this one statement, that sends those with a natural proclivity towards making their world someone else's fault, into apoplectic rage. Barry is one of the least responsible people I have ever met, in terms of owning his shit. As a result, he REALLY doesn't like to be reminded of what a loser he is, spiritually. he is caught in some 60's mood making about enlightenment, and doesn't realize the naturalness of it. No hypnotism here, simply my enlightenment. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened parading him like in a Circus and say; look here, he is enlightened, see what TM can do. This will never happen. For this reason, anyone living in freedom like Fleetwood who is willing to share his experiences is doing everyone a great favor and we should be thankful that he is willing to spend some of his time here. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight -Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Ann, at least took the time to write more than a couple of one liners. I do indeed think Barry makes up stuff to meet his own agenda. Don't we all. Jim makes up all sorts of stuff too. I make up stuff. Most of what others write about Barry, including me is stuff they make up. Our minds are good a fabricating shit. It is a necessary skill in order for it to attempt to figure out the world. I do not see that Jim, for example, is making up less than Barry. I don't make stuff up here Xeno. What you see here is exactly what you would see if you saw me standing in a room talking to you. I have absolutely no reason to pretend I am someone else. I do not understand the need of others to use the internet as a way to become another kind of person. Does this mean they can't be all of who they are when standing next to a breathing person? And if so why would that be? (Rhetorical questions.) One of the primary ways to go after someone's beliefs is to be a contrarian, to deliberately state you think the opposite of what the other guy or gal thinks, even if you do not really believe that. Now this is objectionable to some. I do not object to Barry because I don't see him and other people really as persons, they are objects in my field of experience. On FFL, everyone is a text object in my field of experience. My body is an object in my field of experience. Now calling everyone, you even, as an object does not mean I, in person, will interact with you as if you were an inanimate object. I can hold conversations, more or less. I tend not to like small talk. You are so interesting, Xeno. I can't figure out what actually animates you. Maybe animate is the wrong word because it is as if you are robotic in some fundamental way although I don't mean this to insult you. I have no interest in insulting you so if it comes across like that then my apologies. But to say you don't see those at FFL as anything other than a text object seems to me like you are missing some essential sensory equipment. It is as if people are reduced to molecules and cells and basic components that don't include blood or feelings. It makes me think you are not equipped to grasp the really important things about human beings that could make your life richer. People here mostly talk about how other people behave, which I find boring. There are few substantive conversations. Curtis is good for a substantive argument. Barry less so, he does not seem to have a lot of patience, so if you want to communicate with Barry, you have to be succinct, not like me, but one or two line retorts like Jim fires off are mindless, they usually show no deep thought. Sometimes brevity takes lots more creativity than wordiness. Think poetry vs a novel. Thanks. This statement about wordiness being superior to brevity left me shaking my head. People on the Internet are not necessarily the same as they are in person. Distance and anonymity, the lack of physical contact allows certain darker sides of our personalities shine. Most of what I think of others would probably seem very strange to those others. Jim says certain things about others, and I don't see it at all; Judy did this all the time. Barry does it too. The target of such comments almost invariable say that is not what they think. So the real question, as I see it, is why do we think what we think is true, and so little of what others say they think, especially about us, we think is false? This mismatch of reality among we human beings is rampant. One needs a certain flexibility to deal with it without going nuts. I don't mind being misunderstood but I will often object when someone begins to abuse me about what they think I believe or about who they think I am, especially if it is coming from a place of narrow mindedness and ill will. I will not be a punching bag for those with their own personal, unresolved issues and who wish to take their lack of self awareness and hit me over the head with it. There is a woman here with me; we have very divergent views on many things, often including the nature of enlightenment, but we get along pretty well and have for some time. I make up stuff all the time to puncture her belief system, she calls me a contrarian, but the trick is to make her laugh, to see the absurdity of a position. I doubt very much Barry is as serious about what he says as most people on this forum take things. he has been beaten around by the spiritual con as much as any here, but unlike you, Jim, and others, I think he understands the spiritual con better than most. Barry does repeat many themes many many times. For all I know he could be a computer. There have been experiments on the Internet where a computer program posts to social forums and people think it is a real person.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
But Barry, that is the beauty of enlightenment, I don't have to believe it, for it to be true. And I certainly don't care whether you believe me or not. But, it is fun driving you nuts, with the knowledge that I am enlightened. One of the things I find ridiculous about your issue, is that you keep wanting the enlightened person to be special somehow, and can't stand it, that I am fairly common person - no bells, or whistles. You also have a basic problem with me calling bullshit on you, and have nothing to say back, except some lame insult. You are not a creative person, and it shows. Just a tired old dude, in waking state, who tries to continue the fiction that he is better than the rest of us. What a joke. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
God I know, what a ludicrous suggestion. Barry thinks the enlightened people want to be proclaimed and shown off. Nothing further from the truth. They are already rewarded beyond measure, needing nothing more than what naturally gravitates to them. There is no need for anything, adulation included. They are who they are, and that is pay back enough. Waking state people like Barry, are the ones who dream of being lauded and famous. But that is simply because a person in waking state is needy, and this feeling is transferred to the enlightened person, who is never needy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
You wish! LOL. Some vituperative (nice one) attack below, Michael. I called you on your shit, and you asked for it. And now you don't like what I said. And THIS is supposed to prove what?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the signposts of your lack of enlightenment is your attachment to your delusion that you are enlightened. And your vituperative attacks on those who challenge you on it. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the nearly 60 years TM has existed. I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write??? lol Enlightenment doesn't happen overnight, as you expected it to. It takes a lot of work, a lot of time, and a person, through the integration of TM and activity, must get to know themselves, very well, on all levels, emotionally, mentally, and physically. Only then will a person achieve enlightenment, all pervading pure awareness, and silence. If, on the other hand, they spend their time on wasteful pursuits, like envying, blaming and resenting others, as you do, it is a pity you started, for a halfway journey will only make you sensitive to your suffering, without having reached the goal. The regular practice, by anyone, of TM and the TMSP does lead to enlightenment, silence, Being. Get on with it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the nearly 60 years TM has existed. No one. The anger and vituperation you exhibit in your writings are indicative of your lack of enlightenment as defined by Marshy himself. I am not saying enlightenment can't occur in someone practicing TM, but much more prevalent are the 90% of TM initiates who quit TM in the first year, more, much more prevalent are the scores of people left who do TM and have flat to no experiences and those who have so-called good experiences yet remain ignorance and those few who have fabulous experiences that always come to an end with time and those who go nuts or kill themselves or become basket cases through TM's negative side effects, called unstressing. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two even be equated? Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. Enlightenment is a natural state of consciousness. That's the point. Now, stay on point - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry). Jim said the following (emphasis in the original): Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own path, than try to come up with any comprehensive list of personal attributes. Silence in activity, always. Period. In the following the first four paragraphs are an edited down version of an essay by a Vedantist. The rather short attention span of most of the readers on FFL is the reason for the edits. 'Many teachers promote one of the most famous myths, that silence is somehow the ultimate teaching. While understanding the nature of the self in silence
[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities exhibited by FFLers claiming to be enlightened
I know you don't like it, Barry, but I cannot help being enlightened, any more than you can help being incredibly ignorant. We both get exactly what we deserve. Sorry, and I honestly hope your life improves, and you no longer have to waste time, railing at an enlightened person, who looks on you, with humor and pity, both. You blew it buddy, and there is nothing you can do about it. Certainly, denigrating my enlightenment is the LAST THING you want to do, as it only confuses you further. You do yourself no favors this way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Not all of these characteristics have been exhibited by ALL of the four people I remember who have claimed on Fairfield Life to be enlightened (or to have been in the past), but each of these characteristics has been exhibited by at least one of them, sometimes by more than one. - Claiming that he had never physically struck one of his students, even after first-person testimony on FFL proved that he had. - Claiming that all of his wishes are instantly fulfilled while whining incessantly about the fact that people he has said he wishes would leave FFL don't. - Making posts pretending to be another person (and signing the other person's name to those posts) in which he made statements that would damage the professional reputation of the person he's pretending to be. - Pretending to be a woman. For months. When caught, never admitting it. - Claiming to have perfect knowledge of all things while claiming that the original Buddha (who didn't believe in God) wrote, God is love. - Being so unable to control himself that he holds the FFL record for overposting, having been banned from posting for something like 9 weeks total. - Being in fourth and fifth place using the same Sitting On The Overposter's Bench scale. (What IS is about the TM enlightened that leaves them unable to count to 50?) - Claiming that one is not stalking someone while posting photographs of the stalkee that can only be found by reading *a third party's* accounts on Facebook or other forums. - Not only admitting to getting underage girls drunk at a bar in an attempt to seduce them, but being so misogynist as to brag about it. - Lying about other posters in an *admitted* attempt to harm their career. - Being so obsessed with someone he doesn't like as to write 40 posts in one day ragging on him, in between claiming to be enlightened and talking about how unattached he is, of course. I'm sure that others can think of other examples of enlightened behavior demonstrated in the past on FFL by the four people who have used the forum to proclaim their supposed enlightenment. Please share them...it should help to expand the canon of knowledge about exactly what enlightenment is...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Have I ever indicated that is a problem? You think it is, and Barry thinks it is, but I don't care. PS Hopes this sinks in - You and he are looking pretty stoopid, trying to make this an issue... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It may come as a surprise to you but the only people who believe in your enlightenment are you and crack pot Nappy. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more You wish! LOL. Some vituperative (nice one) attack below, Michael. I called you on your shit, and you asked for it. And now you don't like what I said. And THIS is supposed to prove what?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the signposts of your lack of enlightenment is your attachment to your delusion that you are enlightened. And your vituperative attacks on those who challenge you on it. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the nearly 60 years TM has existed. I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write??? lol Enlightenment doesn't happen overnight, as you expected it to. It takes a lot of work, a lot of time, and a person, through the integration of TM and activity, must get to know themselves, very well, on all levels, emotionally, mentally, and physically. Only then will a person achieve enlightenment, all pervading pure awareness, and silence. If, on the other hand, they spend their time on wasteful pursuits, like envying, blaming and resenting others, as you do, it is a pity you started, for a halfway journey will only make you sensitive to your suffering, without having reached the goal. The regular practice, by anyone, of TM and the TMSP does lead to enlightenment, silence, Being. Get on with it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the nearly 60 years TM has existed. No one. The anger and vituperation you exhibit in your writings are indicative of your lack of enlightenment as defined by Marshy himself. I am not saying enlightenment can't occur in someone practicing TM, but much more prevalent are the 90% of TM initiates who quit TM in the first year, more, much more prevalent are the scores of people left who do TM and have flat to no experiences and those who have so-called good experiences yet remain ignorance and those few who have fabulous experiences that always come to an end with time and those who go nuts or kill themselves or become basket cases through TM's negative side effects, called unstressing. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two even be equated? Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. Enlightenment is a natural state of consciousness. That's the point. Now, stay on point - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry). Jim said the following (emphasis in the original): Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their
Re: [FairfieldLife] German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death
another reeeally lame post... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Yeah, but is there CANNIBALISM after death? Given the way you were falling all over yourself the other day praising people who practice it, won't you feel let down if you find that there is life after death but that you can no longer chow down on your fellow man? :-) Also, Nabby, since you know it's gonna come up...do the Space Brothers you and Benny Creme go on about feel the same way about cannibalism that you do? Should we be concerned if (like the Twilight Zone episode) they come bearing a book called To Serve Man? :-) And when Maitreya (the returned Christ according to some of your own posts) shows up and has to feed the masses the way the original Christ did, is he going to accomplish this by saying, Yea verily I saw unto thee...if thou art hungry, turn and take a big honkin' bite out of the person on your left. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death Berlin| A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death. This astonishing announcement is based on the conclusions of a study using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life. - See more at: German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf Berlin| A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had ... View on worldnewsdailyreport... http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Oh, right. Time travel and dogs as masters and witnessing levitation, and now, remote viewing of my underwear. As long as there is no remote touching...Even if your roomies want nothing to do with you sexually, keep yer old meaty paws off me. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more One of the signposts of your lack of enlightenment is your attachment to your delusion that you are enlightened. And your vituperative attacks on those who challenge you on it. The thing I find most fascinating about his tendency to get angry and lash out is that he got his panties in a twist less often during the several months when he was actually *wearing* panties while posting to FFL as a woman than he does while posting as a guy. Go figure. :-) :-) :-) From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the nearly 60 years TM has existed. I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write??? lol Enlightenment doesn't happen overnight, as you expected it to. It takes a lot of work, a lot of time, and a person, through the integration of TM and activity, must get to know themselves, very well, on all levels, emotionally, mentally, and physically. Only then will a person achieve enlightenment, all pervading pure awareness, and silence. If, on the other hand, they spend their time on wasteful pursuits, like envying, blaming and resenting others, as you do, it is a pity you started, for a halfway journey will only make you sensitive to your suffering, without having reached the goal. The regular practice, by anyone, of TM and the TMSP does lead to enlightenment, silence, Being. Get on with it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. This is a delusion - no one has ever become enlightened doing TM - ever, in the nearly 60 years TM has existed. No one. The anger and vituperation you exhibit in your writings are indicative of your lack of enlightenment as defined by Marshy himself. I am not saying enlightenment can't occur in someone practicing TM, but much more prevalent are the 90% of TM initiates who quit TM in the first year, more, much more prevalent are the scores of people left who do TM and have flat to no experiences and those who have so-called good experiences yet remain ignorance and those few who have fabulous experiences that always come to an end with time and those who go nuts or kill themselves or become basket cases through TM's negative side effects, called unstressing. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more If I boil this down, there is a familiar, and tiresome, challenge here - Is Jim's enlightenment real? Specifically his reports of 24/7 silence? Can the two even be equated? Here is my esteemed answer: Who cares? I don't. I've written volumes about my experience, far more than the snippet below. Knock yourself out dude, trying to prove my enlightenment, one way or the other. My point has always been that enlightenment is achievable, by anyone, using the techniques of TM and the TM Sidhis. If I can do it, anyone can. Enlightenment is a natural state of consciousness. That's the point. Now, stay on point - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This is in regard to the faux enlightenment call that Barry makes in regard to Jim. Now I do not know what Barry experiences, or what Jim experiences, but Barry always seems to me more in control of what he says than Jim. At any rate the exchanges between these two would not probably pass muster as a discussion that had anything to do with enlightenment, but Barry is not claiming that this is what it is about, while Jim seems to be promoting the exchange as a demonstration of enlightenment (Jim) versus ignorance (Barry). Jim said the following (emphasis in the original): Enlightenment is simply defined as life, accompanied by eternal and deep silence, Being, during any state of consciousness. End of story. There are no automatic attributes beyond that, as the universe takes care of the rest. Anyone can gain enlightenment, and with that, their individuality will always express enlightenment. To try for some sort of personal algorithm beyond that, is a fool's errand; better to focus on your own
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
My, what an objective stance. LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Then where are the effects of these so-called enlightened people? According to your much vaunted Supreme Master Mahesh the Fraud Varma, the effect of a person living in enlightenment is profound. They supposedly radiate all this energy and sattva, supposedly uphold and enliven all the laws of nature and all that crap, yet Fairfield and all other TM communities are just communities like all the rest where people live and die and have problems like everyone else. Your assertion that there are many TM practitioners who are enlightened is an absurd fantasy. If there were such people the effect, according to Marshy would be fabulous and obvious. I will ask again, since you believe TM is so very fabulous, why don't you repudiate your UFO and Benjy Creme beliefs so the TMO will take you back and you become recertifed so you can teach this oh so supreme deal to the ignorant of the world? And if TM is so grand, why is it that the world has to have Maitreya come and straighten the world out? How come TM isn't gonna do it? Or are you still having the fantasy that Maitreya will tell everyone to do TM and it will be mandatory and he will appoint you as head of the Movement? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened parading him like in a Circus and say; look here, he is enlightened, see what TM can do. This will never happen. For this reason, anyone living in freedom like Fleetwood who is willing to share his experiences is doing everyone a great favor and we should be thankful that he is willing to spend some of his time here. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight -Maharishi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The poor fellow has flipped out. Sri Raj Nablusoss, King of the TMO :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My, what an objective stance. LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Then where are the effects of these so-called enlightened people? According to your much vaunted Supreme Master Mahesh the Fraud Varma, the effect of a person living in enlightenment is profound. They supposedly radiate all this energy and sattva, supposedly uphold and enliven all the laws of nature and all that crap, yet Fairfield and all other TM communities are just communities like all the rest where people live and die and have problems like everyone else. Your assertion that there are many TM practitioners who are enlightened is an absurd fantasy. If there were such people the effect, according to Marshy would be fabulous and obvious. I will ask again, since you believe TM is so very fabulous, why don't you repudiate your UFO and Benjy Creme beliefs so the TMO will take you back and you become recertifed so you can teach this oh so supreme deal to the ignorant of the world? And if TM is so grand, why is it that the world has to have Maitreya come and straighten the world out? How come TM isn't gonna do it? Or are you still having the fantasy that Maitreya will tell everyone to do TM and it will be mandatory and he will appoint you as head of the Movement? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened parading him like in a Circus and say; look here, he is enlightened, see what TM can do. This will never happen. For this reason, anyone living in freedom like Fleetwood who is willing to share his experiences is doing everyone a great favor and we should be thankful that he is willing to spend some of his time here. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight -Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Barry, was A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Yep, besides being an asshole, Barry is the pot calling the kettle black. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/23/2014 8:26 PM, anartaxius wrote: Were I to characterise Barry, I would say he is a terrorist in Beliefland. A belief is the pretence you know something you do not know, an opinion, an idea not supported by facts, unlike an informed belief which is more of an hypothesis that can stand additional testing. Like balloons floating in Disney World, mere beliefs, even if tightly held, are airy ideas that have no substance, and Barry is the pin that attempts to pop the pretence. It is difficult for Barry, or anyone else, to teach others how to abandon their beliefs if they themselves have deep-seated beliefs of their own which conflict with their own pedagogy. We all have beliefs and we all have an ego that we protect. The problem with this teaching style is that it is easy to lapse into hypocrisy. My style of teaching is similar to Barry's - every statement, when taken to extremes, will be found to be self-contradictory. The difference being that I want to talk about my own cognitive dissonance and beliefs. For example, a pretense that he witnessed Rama levitate up off of a sofa hundreds of times, is an easy target because it is obviously contrary to common sense, science and even to his own teaching. It was false on it's face and a mistake. Even more so when he is attempting to rid others of their beliefs! In fact, this sort of claim is almost pure self-deception. To be confronted with one's own cognitive dissonance, at least for Barry, seems to be the most terrifying threat possible - to the point that he seems to be almost unable to discuss it with anyone. Barry is the loose pin that unraveled due to his own hubris. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Pure awareness validates itself. Also, the world and its inhabitants do a damned good job, of disabusing anyone of their enlightenment, if it is false, or some sort of fantasy. If it is real, we know it, and it lasts forever - a permanent transition. Westerners are so accustomed to instant gratification, that they mistake a transitory experience for enlightenment. Nothing could be further from the truth, but try telling them that! And no, credit cards are not accepted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened
Sure, everyone is seen in terms of enlightenment, NOT that all beings are enlightened - a ridiculous notion. So, for example, I see you as ignorant, and have let you know what you must work on, to gain your enlightenment. Simple. It is a different perspective, but, no, there is no magic. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Contest: Pick the best enlightened_dawn11 photo
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Based on her many posts to Fairfield Life, which photo best represents enlightened_dawn11, as you always imagined her? Aw, be a good sport and laugh at your own photos that were posted here. You are the guy who doesn't give a shit about just about anything. Prove it, show us how unattached you really are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened
Listening to these theories about enlightenment in action, is like listening to some dimwitted prehistoric tribe discuss fire. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. Do you also presume, as MJ does, that when Jim walks along the sidewalk the sun shines, the birds spontaneously burst into song and apple trees erupt in his wake in order to feed the world's starving? Or do enlightened people only have the ability to analyze other people's theories and give the ultimate synopsis?
[FairfieldLife] Barry Walks On The Wild Side
Based on this last post of his, it looks like Barry is getting ready, to Walk On The Wild Side. His life must be like that of a prisoner, where after so many years of no access, or possibility, of sexual relations with women, his gaze begins to wander... You go, Girl! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'm sure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions about which public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. It just doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment to such a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of the opposite sex clams up and refuses to talk about it every time the subject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying, Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniques that allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all of you. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented Drag Queen Yoga™ with you for free, fuggedaboudit. You'll have to shell out the big bucks, just like Catholics do when seeking advice from the guys in *that* church who wear dresses. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means.
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
crickets, dude. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Isn't it fascinating that after all these years Jim Flanegin STILL can't admit that he posed as a woman here on Fairfield Life for several months, posting as enlightened_dawn all that time? One *really* has to wonder 1) what the fuck he was *thinking* doing that, and for so long, and 2) what is wrong with his supporters that they manage to ignore it. It's really the biggest elephant in the room display of denial and cognitive dissonance in the history of the forum, even bigger than Robin Carlsen trying to continue denying that he'd hit his students, immediately after having admitted it. The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. When you think about it, that's no weirder than convincing himself he's enlightened. Whatever. Bottom line is that it's probably a good thing he's living way out in the boonies now, where he can't hurt anyone if he has another similar breakdown. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'm sure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions about which public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. It just doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment to such a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of the opposite sex clams up and refuses to talk about it every time the subject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying, Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniques that allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all of you. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented Drag Queen Yoga™ with you for free, fuggedaboudit. You'll have to shell out the big bucks, just like Catholics do when seeking advice from the guys in *that* church who wear dresses.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two intelligent time travel movies
Had the same issue with 12 Monkeys. Have you seen In TIne, with Justin Timberlake? Came out in 2011, with the rich being able to buy more time than anyone else. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I saw that one. Time Crimes, that is. I have a weakness for good, well-thought-out time travel movies. Likewise. Sadly there is very often a plot hole. I was watching Twelve Monkeys the other day and there's a disastrous mistake at the end. I wonder why no one tapped Terry Gilliam on the shoulder and said sorry mate but that don't make sense, but then they'd have to scrap the whole thing. So maybe that's why they kept their mouths shut! I was enjoying it up till then... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two intelligent time travel movies Cool. I look forward to those. The last time travel movie I really enjoyed was an Italian one called Time Crimes about a guy who bys a house in the country and, while looking around his garden, notices a naked girl in the woods so he goes to investigate. I won't spoil it suffice to say that it's one of those decisions you wouldn't have made with hindsight.. I think it would be worth looking up. Apparently Hollywood are making a version, probably with Tom Cruise. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Both Australian, both enjoyable for those who like to see time travel done well, meaning that every twist and turn seems to actually be possible, given physicists' speculations about time travel. The first was called The Infinite Man and I saw it back during the Leiden Film Festival. Very clever and funny premise -- a nerd wants to create the perfect weekend away with his girlfriend, and it goes wrong. Obsessed, he invents a time machine so they can travel back in time and make it perfect this time. Suffice it to say that with every attempt the whole scenario gets worse, and he winds up creating the ultimate time-travel endless-loop clusterfuck. The Infinite Man SXSW Trailer (2014) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A The Infinite Man SXSW Trailer (2014) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A Preview by Yahoo The second, Predestination, seems to have just been released on DVD and BluRay. It's another intellectual time travel movie, this time based on an old classic story by Robert Heinlein. A time travel cop played by Ethan Hawke tries to recruit a talented guy to help him track down the only time criminal who has so far escaped him. Again, very circular logic, with appropriate use of the song I'm My Own Grandpa playing on the jukebox of a saloon. Predestination International TRAILER 1 (2014) - Ethan Hawke Sci-Fi Thriller HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 Predestination International TRAILER 1 (2014) - Ethan Ha... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Rather crazy to have the spiritual neophytes like Barry, MJ and Taxesus, trying to verify enlightenment, from the waking state. Not even close to being possible. Better they get off their lazy butts, and achieve it themselves. Then they will have an opinion worth listening to. Can't stand people that are too lazy to do it themselves, but bitch about others' accomplishments - What a waste of time, and life. Jai Guru Dev. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two intelligent time travel movies
meant In Time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Had the same issue with 12 Monkeys. Have you seen In TIne, with Justin Timberlake? Came out in 2011, with the rich being able to buy more time than anyone else. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I saw that one. Time Crimes, that is. I have a weakness for good, well-thought-out time travel movies. Likewise. Sadly there is very often a plot hole. I was watching Twelve Monkeys the other day and there's a disastrous mistake at the end. I wonder why no one tapped Terry Gilliam on the shoulder and said sorry mate but that don't make sense, but then they'd have to scrap the whole thing. So maybe that's why they kept their mouths shut! I was enjoying it up till then... From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two intelligent time travel movies Cool. I look forward to those. The last time travel movie I really enjoyed was an Italian one called Time Crimes about a guy who bys a house in the country and, while looking around his garden, notices a naked girl in the woods so he goes to investigate. I won't spoil it suffice to say that it's one of those decisions you wouldn't have made with hindsight.. I think it would be worth looking up. Apparently Hollywood are making a version, probably with Tom Cruise. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Both Australian, both enjoyable for those who like to see time travel done well, meaning that every twist and turn seems to actually be possible, given physicists' speculations about time travel. The first was called The Infinite Man and I saw it back during the Leiden Film Festival. Very clever and funny premise -- a nerd wants to create the perfect weekend away with his girlfriend, and it goes wrong. Obsessed, he invents a time machine so they can travel back in time and make it perfect this time. Suffice it to say that with every attempt the whole scenario gets worse, and he winds up creating the ultimate time-travel endless-loop clusterfuck. The Infinite Man SXSW Trailer (2014) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A The Infinite Man SXSW Trailer (2014) HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7bQ9fUw7A Preview by Yahoo The second, Predestination, seems to have just been released on DVD and BluRay. It's another intellectual time travel movie, this time based on an old classic story by Robert Heinlein. A time travel cop played by Ethan Hawke tries to recruit a talented guy to help him track down the only time criminal who has so far escaped him. Again, very circular logic, with appropriate use of the song I'm My Own Grandpa playing on the jukebox of a saloon. Predestination International TRAILER 1 (2014) - Ethan Hawke Sci-Fi Thriller HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 Predestination International TRAILER 1 (2014) - Ethan Ha... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcK_UiVV40 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Think of all the progress they could have made, all the stress dissolved, if they had simply done TM every time they felt like insulting me. Mind boggling. What was accomplished by insulting me? More wasted time, and that is all. Life goes on, and nobody is getting any younger. Instead of becoming diamond merchants, they are all spinach salesmen, hugging The Waking State, as if it were solid gold. Simply pathetic. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Rather crazy to have the spiritual neophytes like Barry, MJ and Taxesus, trying to verify enlightenment, from the waking state. Not even close to being possible. Better they get off their lazy butts, and achieve it themselves. Then they will have an opinion worth listening to. Can't stand people that are too lazy to do it themselves, but bitch about others' accomplishments - What a waste of time, and life. Jai Guru Dev. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Globally? I would think on the order of 10,000 or so enlightened souls, to date, given the efficiency of the technique. This glee that you and the other spiritual losers, evince, whenever you see a false enlightenment, is very telling. Get over the bile, and learn to live life in a joyful, expressive and successful way. Hiding behind TVs, word floods, bongs and beers doesn't cut it. Sickening to see your laziness, and lack of personal responsibility, regarding your own liberation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buddha taught for 45 years. Maharishi for 57 or so years. Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. So what is Maharishi's tally? I did once hear there was a group of people in Fairfield, IA that had had awakening experiences, and that they used to meet somewhere in the town to discuss things, but eventually disbanded, once it became clear there was nothing more to discuss. Apparently though it helped some accommodate to the happening as it was very disorienting for some to have an experience that they totally did not expect. By the way Nabby what does Nablusoss mean, if anything? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
You possibly know this, but the maya like dream state, and waking state, are actually the same thing. All the elements we enjoy in reality are there, but like in a dream, it doesn't quite make sense. For a realistic view of life, enlightenment is *necessary* - not just some obscure notion, from the East - lol. That is why enlightenment is often called, Awakening. A little grandiose for my taste, but accurate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/24/2014 4:52 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: God I know, what a ludicrous suggestion. Barry thinks the enlightened people want to be proclaimed and shown off. If what Barry says is accurate, that's what Rama used to do - show off. The funny thing is that Barry can't fly or levitate, and obviously he is unenlightened - the only show he puts on is on social media. I mean, even if Rama could levitate, what does that prove? Maybe it's easy to impress Barry with stage-show tricks - he does seem to be prone to suggestibility. But, are you really sure Barry is in a waking state - it seems more and more like he is in a maya-like dream state. Who would hang around a place for ten months waiting for good weather just to take a snap shot of the sky? Go figure. Nothing further from the truth. They are already rewarded beyond measure, needing nothing more than what naturally gravitates to them. There is no need for anything, adulation included. They are who they are, and that is pay back enough. Waking state people like Barry, are the ones who dream of being lauded and famous. But that is simply because a person in waking state is needy, and this feeling is transferred to the enlightened person, who is never needy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened
Right. Though the question related to Buddha was in terms of the number of souls that he was able to bring up the ladder of evolution, to their liberation, their enlightenment. In realistic terms, it is accurate enough to say everything is enlightened, Oneness, but in terms of practical value, it only helps the overall mission, here on earth, if a soul becomes awakened to itself. To see some value of enlightenment in others, is a natural enough thing, but we also are responsible, for acting, within the bounds of time and space, to make that a fully expressed reality, now. Perhaps Eckhart is smiling these days.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re All beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening: All beings - everything, the whole shebang - are nothing but manifestations of Buddha Mind so are exactly and precisely what they *should* be, despite the fact that they might offend our relative and limited sensibilities. Meister Eckhart (14th century) made a similar point when he said: Even he who blasphemes against God praises God. [He got his arsed kicked by the Vatican for saying it!] Further, as there is only the One Self - that Buddha Mind again - the perception that there are lots of separate selves is illusory. If there are in reality no others, how can there be any unenlightened beings? Duh! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
lol- Mountains of spinach! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks. Funniest sentence I've read in a long while: Instead of becoming diamond merchants, they are all spinach salesmen, hugging The Waking State, as if it were solid gold. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Think of all the progress they could have made, all the stress dissolved, if they had simply done TM every time they felt like insulting me. Mind boggling. What was accomplished by insulting me? More wasted time, and that is all. Life goes on, and nobody is getting any younger. Instead of becoming diamond merchants, they are all spinach salesmen, hugging The Waking State, as if it were solid gold. Simply pathetic. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Rather crazy to have the spiritual neophytes like Barry, MJ and Taxesus, trying to verify enlightenment, from the waking state. Not even close to being possible. Better they get off their lazy butts, and achieve it themselves. Then they will have an opinion worth listening to. Can't stand people that are too lazy to do it themselves, but bitch about others' accomplishments - What a waste of time, and life. Jai Guru Dev. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 25-Nov-14 00:15:04 UTC
winner, winner, chicken dinner! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote : Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 11/22/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 11/29/14 00:00:00 378 messages as of (UTC) 11/25/14 00:04:36 84 fleetwood_macncheese 43 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 33 awoelflebater 33 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 27 Michael Jackson mjackson74 26 Share Long sharelong60 24 nablusoss1008 19 Bhairitu noozguru 18 steve.sundur 14 salyavin808 9 anartaxius 8 jr_esq 7 dhamiltony2k5 6 j_alexander_stanley 5 s3raphita 5 Tormod Kinnes tkinnes 3 emptybill 3 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 2 jason_green2 2 email4you mikemail4you 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 hepa7 1 eustace10679 1 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius 1 LEnglish5 1 'Rick Archer' rick Posters: 27 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightenedout?
Has your subscription to the Enquirer lapsed, Share? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, I've always assumed that Fleetwood's dawn name meant something like enlightened sunrise. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened Isn't it fascinating that after all these years Jim Flanegin STILL can't admit that he posed as a woman here on Fairfield Life for several months, posting as enlightened_dawn all that time? One *really* has to wonder 1) what the fuck he was *thinking* doing that, and for so long, and 2) what is wrong with his supporters that they manage to ignore it. It's really the biggest elephant in the room display of denial and cognitive dissonance in the history of the forum, even bigger than Robin Carlsen trying to continue denying that he'd hit his students, immediately after having admitted it. The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. When you think about it, that's no weirder than convincing himself he's enlightened. Whatever. Bottom line is that it's probably a good thing he's living way out in the boonies now, where he can't hurt anyone if he has another similar breakdown. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'm sure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions about which public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. It just doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment to such a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of the opposite sex clams up and refuses to talk about it every time the subject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying, Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniques that allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all of you. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented Drag Queen Yoga™ with you for free, fuggedaboudit. You'll have to shell out the big bucks, just like Catholics do when seeking advice from the guys in *that* church who wear dresses.
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
heh - If I were Barry, I would be calling you an obsessive nut job, or worse, right about now. But, I'm not. On the plus side, though, through this new, more confrontational style of yours, I think I detect your testicles beginning to descend. Its a good sign. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : That is one interpretation, but I have started to read some of those old posts. I have not found the part where Jim supposedly says he is a woman as search is really only partially functional in Neo, and not much better in the archive, but Barry ragged on him about it back then. And Jim denied that enlightened_dawn11 was him, and also said, as enlightened_dawn11, that he/she was new to the forum, even though Jim seemed to have been on the forum for about a year before that under his own name. So my research is incomplete, and I will be busy for the next few days, so I do not know when I will have time to read more of that. The exchanges between Barry and Jim back then seem pretty much the way they run now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, I've always assumed that Fleetwood's dawn name meant something like enlightened sunrise. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened Isn't it fascinating that after all these years Jim Flanegin STILL can't admit that he posed as a woman here on Fairfield Life for several months, posting as enlightened_dawn all that time? One *really* has to wonder 1) what the fuck he was *thinking* doing that, and for so long, and 2) what is wrong with his supporters that they manage to ignore it. It's really the biggest elephant in the room display of denial and cognitive dissonance in the history of the forum, even bigger than Robin Carlsen trying to continue denying that he'd hit his students, immediately after having admitted it. The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. When you think about it, that's no weirder than convincing himself he's enlightened. Whatever. Bottom line is that it's probably a good thing he's living way out in the boonies now, where he can't hurt anyone if he has another similar breakdown. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means. To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'm sure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions about which public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. It just doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment to such a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of the opposite sex clams up and refuses to talk about it every time the subject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying, Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniques that allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all of you. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented Drag Queen Yoga™ with you for free, fuggedaboudit. You'll have to shell out the big bucks, just like Catholics do when seeking advice from the guys in *that* church who wear dresses.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Walks On The Wild Side
I wonder if it makes your nipples perkier, and more sensitive, as a man with a full rack?? ...Barry accidentally brushing frontally against large hedges, parking meters, and the like, squealing, almost silently, with each encounter, then quickly, into the next pub. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Based on this last post of his, it looks like Barry is getting ready, to Walk On The Wild Side. His life must be like that of a prisoner, where after so many years of no access, or possibility, of sexual relations with women, his gaze begins to wander... You go, Girl! Well, he certainly possesses the man boobs for it. (Or have I gone too far?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : To be honest, I'd rather hear him expostulate on what value posing as a woman for several months had in helping him realize his enlightenment. Is this a technique he would suggest to other people interested in becoming enlightened? And if so, should they cross-dress only when posting on the Internet, or should they dress in drag when at work, shopping, going to church, and on other occasions? I think that many who are interested in enlightenment would also be interested in why, once he achieved his enlightenment by pretending to be a woman for so long, he's never admitted to having done it. One would think that an enlightened being who has come up with such an innovative sadhana as Cross-Dressing For Enlightenment would want to talk it up to all who would listen. What serious seeker would *not* want to know, for example, how Jimbo managed to conceal his occasional dhoti-tents while dressed as a woman. I'm sure they'd also be fascinated to hear how he made his decisions about which public restroom to use, how to dress when swimming in public, etc. It just doesn't feel right that a person who owes his enlightenment to such a revolutionary technique as pretending to be a member of the opposite sex clams up and refuses to talk about it every time the subject comes up. It's almost as if by doing this he's saying, Hey...cross-dressing worked for *me* and was one of the key techniques that allowed me to become so much better and more evolved than all of you. But if you think I'm going to share the secrets of my patented Drag Queen Yoga™ with you for free, fuggedaboudit. You'll have to shell out the big bucks, just like Catholics do when seeking advice from the guys in *that* church who wear dresses. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 3:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened One of the things mentioned about Buddha's enlightenment is that at that moment he said that 'all beings were simultaneously enlightened with his awakening'. The phrase is translated in different ways but they all basically say the same thing, that with awakening all beings were perceived as enlightened. I presume Jim can clarify what this means.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Beings Enlightened
Don't forget my bodily waste, smelling like sweetest perfume...I've been trying to convince my wife of that, for years! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Do you also presume, as MJ does, that when Jim walks along the sidewalk the sun shines, the birds spontaneously burst into song and apple trees erupt in his wake in order to feed the world's starving? Read Marshy's descriptions of enlightenment and tell me what he was saying would happen when one gets there. I'm sorry but I can't be bothered. Why don't you post some quotes and then I'll be able to see if there's anything about rainbows, butterflies and apple trees.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Here is an apt re-run, from yesterday: Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a Walter Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and build empty fantasies about how interested we are in you. Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0b8m3ft1a6o9h#TopText from anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] included below] What might lie at the bottom of Barry's barrel? Barry just m Barry's classification. Disclaimer: This post is not meant to impune the intelligence of anyone, whether they be highly intelligent or highly unintelligent. After all, only the enlightened are aware of the nature of the intelligence of the universe, how it works, and what has it, and where it is actually located. I think we ought to allow the Post Count to determine the bottom of the barrel. So far this week, the person who claims to be enlightened has demonstrated the highest degree of obsession, making 31 posts in one day, MOST of them about a person he claims is beneath notice and beneath contempt (moi). I leave you to puzzle out whether that sounds enlightened to you or just jealous. Similarly, Share seems to have done little else but Obsess On Barry, as have Richard and Ann and Steve. Just another Saturday at Fairfield Life. Since all of these people have gone out of their way in the past and the present to comment about how LOW Barry is, and yet they choose to focus almost all of their writings on him anyway, I think we have to assume that they are the LOWEST in terms of intelligence. What you focus on, you become...and all that... :-) On another level, it should be obvious by now that none of them is able to think of anything to post EXCEPT ragging on Barry. I have become the catalyst that allows them to pretend that they actually have something to say. Seems to me they should be thanking me for providing them a much-needed writing prompt. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What we can learn about serial rapist Frederick Lenz from Bill Cosby
Your mind is going...:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I think there are interesting parallels in terms of both being stuck in the past and being stuck in denial here. So far, at least 13 women have come forward to say that Bill Cosby drugged and raped them, or at the very least, in some way forced them to have sex with him. Several other voices (some of them male) have confirmed that there was a whole support mechanism in place among Cosby's staff and organization to keep any of these rapes from ever becoming public. At the same time, the other night at a comedy performance, the audience gave Cosby a standing ovation. Does anyone else see the parallels here? - First, how lost in the past do you have to BE to attend a Bill Cosby performance, all these years after he's gone over the hill? That's a clear parallel to people still caring about Maharishi, who is even more over the hill, being...uh...dead, in addition to being discredited. - Second, for these Cosby True Believers, nothing they've seen in the press or heard seems to bother them. They're still willing to stand and applaud Cosby, either refusing to believe that he could possibly have done any wrong, or refusing to consider using his position of power to rape women wrong. Another clear parallel to what TM True Believers do when new tales of Maharishi screwing his women students come out. They find ways to ignore them completely, so that they can continue idolizing MMY. - Third, notice what the Cosby True Believers say about these women coming forward. They call them names, Liars! being the least of them, and demonstrate their misogyny with every word. The MMY supporters do the exact same thing, demonizing the women who have had the courage to tell the truth about both how Maharishi seduced them, and then went out of his way to hide it. All in all, it looks like the behavior of True Believers is equally shameful, whether they're clinging to their illusions about Bill Cosby, or about Maharishi... A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cosby of Sexual Assault http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru A Complete List of the Women Who Have Accused Bill Cos... http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru The following women have alleged as a matter of public record that Bill Cosby sexually assaulted or raped them. They are listed in the order their allegations becam... View on www.slate.com http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/11/21/bill_cosby_accusers_list_sexual_assault_rape_drugs_feature_in_women_s_stories.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
I am just curious, as your thoughts really don't address anything, do you smoke a lot of weed?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I am reattaching that image of the barrel with the TM thought bubbles. Maharishi said, concerning a 'bad' thought that 'they are rotten to the core'. That could give one pause as to the ultimate origin of rottenness. Also if one reacts to a 'bad' thought someone expresses, from where does the 'bad' arise, with the person who expresses the thought, or the person who interprets the thought. Think of ISIS (or ISIL), a group of people who seem utterly in the thrall of certain thought forms. They seem to think what they are doing is good, while in the West we tend to think of them as deranged and horrifying, so who is right? If we do not like those thoughts they have, we can label them as dangerous to our way of life and attempt to destroy the containers of those thoughts as a practical measure without considering their ultimate character as good or bad, much in the way chemotherapy can destroy cancer, which is a naturally occurring process that brings ill health to the body. All individual beings die from one thing or another as a result of the flow of natural processes. Good health and ill health are equally a part of nature. Naturally we want good health for the body, but nature ultimately never complies with that wish. Ultimately all thoughts spring from processes occurring naturally, and if one conceptualises the world as emerging from being according to natural law, the rottenness of thoughts that we encounter have a more overreaching source than an individual body. So if we do not like something, certainly there is something out there beyond our individual body that we react to, but the reaction springs wholly from within our body, so as our thoughts measure the world that our mind interprets. From the Tao Te Ching: When the world knows beauty as beauty, ugliness arises When it knows good as good, evil arises Thus being and non-being produce each other Difficult and easy bring about each other Long and short reveal each other High and low support each other Music and voice harmonize each other Front and back follow each other Therefore the sages: Manage the work of detached actions Conduct the teaching of no words They work with myriad things but do not control They create but do not possess They act but do not presume They succeed but do not dwell on success It is because they do not dwell on success That it never goes away === ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : What might lie at the bottom of Barry's barrel? Obviously, he does, and calls it home. I have *another* name for it. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What might lie at the bottom of Barry's barrel? Barry just made an offer that would, if accepted by John, would put Jim up one notch on the ladder of intelligence, per Barry's classification. Disclaimer: This post is not meant to impune the intelligence of anyone, whether they be highly intelligent or highly unintelligent. After all, only the enlightened are aware of the nature of the intelligence of the universe, how it works, and what has it, and where it is actually located. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Barry is in a race with himself, to the bottom of the barrel. And look, he's winning! LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Hey Barry, Speaking of lying, you've started this thread with a lie dude. THAT is what's put a bug up your ass? My Subject line for this thread? No problemo. I didn't mean to start a dick-size contest between you and Jimbo. If you are offended at being considered less dumb than Jim Flanegin, I retract the statement. You can be the dumbest.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL
Seriously?? This is one of your dumbest, most contrived posts, ever, and that is saying something... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and allowed JohnR to retain his title. BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of Dumbnessitude. Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his quest for the taste of human flesh. I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second place.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
He is available - Its a language difference, Steve. When Barry refers to mountain climbing, the rest of us oughta know, he refers to carrying that beer-belly up three flights of stairs. To him, that's an expedition...Sorta like when you or I would go out to buy a book or something, Barry travels through portals of time and space. Similarly, what looks like him walking his dog, is actually a sacred convo between Master (the dog), and Barry (the other dog). Once you learn Barry-speak, its a breeze! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : He just walked into it. The thing he was berating you about, he just walked into it. Admitting he made horrible error, of taking something someone said at face value. He may conveniently be on his mountain climbing expedition and conveniently can't respond. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, turq wasn't the only one who went silent with that image of me undressing him! Talk about thought stopper! Anyway, for posterity, here's what I had written: dear *dear * turq, hopefully you see the irony of your first sentence! Otherwise we are doomed doomed doomed! MAYBE when you admit you were wrong about CS series, I will admit my total wrongness. MAYBE... In his first sentence, turq had written that, on that ill-fated one and only *date*, he believed someone when she told him that the Chicken Soup series began in FF. Guess I'm not the only gullible idiot in the Funny Farm Lounge (-: From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Share, Barry's gone silent on this one, and I cants sez that I blame him. To his credit. To his credit, however, if it were Judy, and she were caught in such a trap of her own makings, we could be in for a two to three week spin of why she didn't just hoist herself on her own petard. Maybe Barry has enough dignity to remain silent and appear stupid, (which he is, in this instance), than to open his mouth and remove all doubt. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Share, that is brilliant! Barry probably won't get it, but you just undressed him. I'm not looking but if that's the case, for God's sake and all of the rest of us, get him dressed!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL
Perhaps you can move UP, and share a few 'knock, knock' jokes with us - LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and allowed JohnR to retain his title. BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of Dumbnessitude. Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his quest for the taste of human flesh. I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second place. Aha. Now we understand why Maharishi ripped off the Burger King crown for his Rajas:
[FairfieldLife] Barry's failure this morning
I wrote yesterday about these changing times, how the light is reaching everywhere now. Just now, I glanced at my PC and saw that Barry, thinking most of us asleep, tried to quietly lay a few turds on the FFL doorstep, sit back for a few hours, and watch the outrage, as we awaken (as he often has in the past). Didn't work. Not even close. I shot his stuff down without thinking twice about it. Those who live in the dark, who sneak around, will always be discovered now. The more Barry rants, the more we find out about him. Mostly, how little he has to offer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Zen koan of the day
PLEASE READ THIS, Barry - It tells you everything you want to know. Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a Walter Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and build empty fantasies about how interested we are in you. Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Why is someone who claims to be fully enlightened still up at 2 a.m. obsessing about someone he claims is beneath him? Why would an enlightened person have spent the previous 24 hours writing almost 40 posts about the person he claims is beneath him? If all of this makes sense to you, perhaps you should sign up to learn Jimbo-Enlightenment. But watch out if he invites you over for dinner... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: How to tell you're in Leiden on a Sunday afternoon in November
The question is, why do you have to get smacked around so much, before posting something like this, written by a normal human being? Curious minds want to know. Otherwise, we will just continue to assume you are an emotional two year old. PS Glad you enjoyed the day in Leiden - I only wish you did that more often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : First, get out and take a walk or a bike ride. If you stay inside, you could be anywhere, right? Now that you're out, do you see gangs of brightly dressed people in black face makeup walking around? Hundreds of them? OK, you're in Leiden. For those of you who have never experienced the Dutch tradition of Sinterklaas and his Zwarte Piet companions, it sounds kinda weird. And it probably is, but the blackface has been part of the tradition since medieval periods, and people aren't about to change it now, even though there have been protests about it for racist reasons. Anyway, it's a lot of fun. Sinterklaas himself arrived yesterday a boat, while thousands of parents and their kids cheered his arrival. The Zwarte Piets are his helpers, sorta like elves but with more clought. If a kid has been good, the Zwarte Piets give them a pepper cookie. If they've been bad, theoretically the Zwarte Piets get to throw the kid into a big sack and take him off to Spain. Don't ask me what happens to the bad kids once they get there...I've never wanted to know. sinterklaas leiden 2014 - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1hl=ensite=imghptbm=ischsource=hpbiw=1036bih=560q=sinterklaas+leiden+2014oq=sinterklaas+leidengs_l=img.1.0.0i24l2.1864.9597.0.11575.20.19.1.0.0.0.197.1965.12j7.19.0.cprnk%2Cekomodo%3Dtrue%2Ckpnr%3D100...0...1.1.58.img..1.19.1865.24a8eWIYrQY https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1hl=ensite=imghptbm=ischsource=hpbiw=1036bih=560q=sinterklaas+leiden+2014oq=sinterklaas+leidengs_l=img.1.0.0i24l2.1864.9597.0.11575.20.19.1.0.0.0.197.1965.12j7.19.0.cprnk%2Cekomodo%3Dtrue%2Ckpnr%3D100...0...1.1.58.img..1.19.1865.24a8eWIYrQY sinterklaas leiden 2014 - Google Search https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1hl=ensite=imghptbm=ischsource=hpbiw=1036bih=560q=sinterklaas+leiden+2014oq=sinterklaas+leidengs_l=img.1.0.0i24l2.1864.9597.0.11575.20.19.1.0.0.0.197.1965.12j7.19.0.cprnk%2Cekomodo%3Dtrue%2Ckpnr%3D100...0...1.1.58.img..1.19.1865.24a8eWIYrQY vandaagopstap.nl Intocht Sinterklaas Leiden 502 × 315 - 123k - jpg vandaagopstap.nl Huis van Sinterklaas in Leiden 502 × 315 - 34k - jpg nufoto.nl fullscreen 1024 ×... View on www.google.com https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1hl=ensite=imghptbm=ischsource=hpbiw=1036bih=560q=sinterklaas+leiden+2014oq=sinterklaas+leidengs_l=img.1.0.0i24l2.1864.9597.0.11575.20.19.1.0.0.0.197.1965.12j7.19.0.cprnk%2Cekomodo%3Dtrue%2Ckpnr%3D100...0...1.1.58.img..1.19.1865.24a8eWIYrQY Preview by Yahoo
