[FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?
Our newest member, Angela, who just joined FFL yesterday when she left the
Wednesday night satsang group in disgust, posted this cool and profoundly
thoughtful email that I'll bet everyone missed because the title was
misleading. Take a look! She hails from Nazii Germany and is observing some
interesting stuff in the Fairfield community.
(Note:Pompous shit is a reference to something posted yesterday about an
alleged attitude manifested by some members of her previous group.)
Angela writes:
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?
Bronte Baxter wrote: Another reason I left, though, was that they really were completely unwilling to deal with the questions I, personally, have about the whole enlightenment trip. I was born in Nazi Germany, saw the tail end of the war myself, and then grew up in an environment in which all kinds of Nazis (including bliss-Nazis) tried to come to terms with the experience of the Third Reich. My physics teacher in High School had been a famous scientist and a member of the SS and, because early one morning he caught me meditating, we became friends as well. To him, and to my mother, meditation meant fascism. A vegetarian, Hitler was guru to the SS, in every sense of the word, and he did group meditations with the top brass. I would say the Nazi's hijacked the New Age (which is really the old age) for their purposes. And yes when we have the NeoCons saying they are creating reality then we really do have some nut cases using some new age type philosophy. But we know that meditation does not equal fascism and is in fact totally the opposite as it's goal is liberation. Meditation organizations can equal fascism though, especially if they are more of a cult and members very judgmental.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?
Bharitu, I didn't write that piece about growing up in Nazi Germany. Angela did. You attributed it to me. Regarding your comment, But we know that meditation does not equal fascism and is in fact totally the opposite as it's goal is liberation, I would say you're dismissing Angela's probe too casually. Of course the stated goal of meditation, according to to those who promote it, is liberation. But is that what it delivers? The stated goal of Naziism was to make Germany strong and good. Is that what it delivered? Angela, I wish you'd elaborate on the connections you see between New Age and Naziism, so we could discuss them. - Bronte Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte Baxter wrote: Another reason I left, though, was that they really were completely unwilling to deal with the questions I, personally, have about the whole enlightenment trip. I was born in Nazi Germany, saw the tail end of the war myself, and then grew up in an environment in which all kinds of Nazis (including bliss-Nazis) tried to come to terms with the experience of the Third Reich. My physics teacher in High School had been a famous scientist and a member of the SS and, because early one morning he caught me meditating, we became friends as well. To him, and to my mother, meditation meant fascism. A vegetarian, Hitler was guru to the SS, in every sense of the word, and he did group meditations with the top brass. I would say the Nazi's hijacked the New Age (which is really the old age) for their purposes. And yes when we have the NeoCons saying they are creating reality then we really do have some nut cases using some new age type philosophy. But we know that meditation does not equal fascism and is in fact totally the opposite as it's goal is liberation. Meditation organizations can equal fascism though, especially if they are more of a cult and members very judgmental. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?
On Oct 14, 2007, at 3:58 PM, Bronte Baxter wrote: Angela, I wish you'd elaborate on the connections you see between New Age and Naziism, so we could discuss them. - Bronte Did you ever check out the video I mentioned the documentary I mentioned the other day, The Occult History of the Third Reich? You also may not be aware, Mahesh was a real Hitler fan according to some movement insiders. I believe he even had people dress up at one point. Rick had at one time posted this (I don't know if he ever got a response): A Jewish friend who used to be on Purusha told me some interesting stories about German Purusha celebrating Hitler's birthday, wearing swastikas under their ties, etc. I can't find it on my computers, but I'll email him to see if he still has what he sent me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Links between New Age and Naziism -- in Fairfield?
I know Angela wrote it. That the quote section came out to you is irrelevant but sorry anyway. I could have left the whole thing in which would have clarified it but the snip police would have been all over me. :) But I am not causally dismissing the probe at all. She is stating that to him, and to my mother, meditation meant fascism and is therefore inferring it does not mean that to her. An anti-fascist, anti-authoritarian like myself who has even been criticized on this forum for comparing Bush to Hitler obviously does not in any way dismiss Nazism. And if you read again you will notice I say it is cults (and Nazism was designed to be a cult) that are the problem not meditation. Now maybe your only experience with meditation is TM and therefore might be a rather narrow cultish perspective though since even as a teacher I found it easy to walk away from the movement whereas real cults tend to come after you. OTOH, political groups and their controllers can use things like meditation and vegetarianism to create a weak and submissive populace which for them would be a dream to rule and turn into slaves. It's always interesting to hear from people who grew up under totalitarians regimes especially when they note that this country seems to be headed right down that same road. I recently heard that from someone who grew up in Argentina as well as another friend who had to live under fascism in Portugal. The American nightmare is not over by a long shot. Bronte Baxter wrote: Bharitu, I didn't write that piece about growing up in Nazi Germany. Angela did. You attributed it to me. Regarding your comment, But we know that meditation does not equal fascism and is in fact totally the opposite as it's goal is liberation, I would say you're dismissing Angela's probe too casually. Of course the stated goal of meditation, according to to those who promote it, is liberation. But is that what it delivers? The stated goal of Naziism was to make Germany strong and good. Is that what it delivered? Angela, I wish you'd elaborate on the connections you see between New Age and Naziism, so we could discuss them. - Bronte Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronte Baxter wrote: Another reason I left, though, was that they really were completely unwilling to deal with the questions I, personally, have about the whole enlightenment trip. I was born in Nazi Germany, saw the tail end of the war myself, and then grew up in an environment in which all kinds of Nazis (including bliss-Nazis) tried to come to terms with the experience of the Third Reich. My physics teacher in High School had been a famous scientist and a member of the SS and, because early one morning he caught me meditating, we became friends as well. To him, and to my mother, meditation meant fascism. A vegetarian, Hitler was guru to the SS, in every sense of the word, and he did group meditations with the top brass. I would say the Nazi's hijacked the New Age (which is really the old age) for their purposes. And yes when we have the NeoCons saying they are creating reality then we really do have some nut cases using some new age type philosophy. But we know that meditation does not equal fascism and is in fact totally the opposite as it's goal is liberation. Meditation organizations can equal fascism though, especially if they are more of a cult and members very judgmental. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
