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Good luck on your mission. I send people to learn TM at TM centers and they get turned off right away on going in with how 'odd' the presentation is. 'Arrogant' is another word that gets used along with, 'cult'. The technique is nice to learn and practice and it can be well taught. It seems over-produced now in a way that triggers people. There has been so much about cults and abuse recently in media around spirituality and religion that people seem much more sensitive to what they may be getting into. ..compared to centering prayer and mindfulness meditations that are more widely taught adapting principles of effortlessness now very similar to some TM techniques. I hope these TM folks can figure it out and do well and exist in the very competitive marketplace. -JaiGuruYou Description : Press Release New TM Center Bethlehem Lehigh Valley ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File : /PressRelease Lists 5-4-15-1.pdf Uploaded by : mail_uzer Description : Press Release New TM Center Bethlehem Lehigh Valley You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/files/PressRelease%20Lists%205-4-15-1.pdf https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/files/PressRelease%20Lists%205-4-15-1.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contenty=PROD_GRPSlocale=en_USid=SLN15398 https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contenty=PROD_GRPSlocale=en_USid=SLN15398 Regards, mail_uzer
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Never mind... I deleted my upload because the exact same file was already there, uploaded by Rick in 2008. It's in the Files section of the FFL website, in the Audio Video Files folder. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File : /Audio Video Files/Maharishi laughing 2.17.08.WMA Uploaded by : j_alexander_stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com mailto:j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com Description : Maharishi laughing - Sent to FFL by Dick Mays You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Audio%20%26%20Video%20Files/Maharishi%20laughing%202.17.08.WMA https://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Audio%20%26%20Video%20Files/Maharishi%20laughing%202.17.08.WMA To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contenty=PROD_GRPSlocale=en_USid=SLN15398 https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contenty=PROD_GRPSlocale=en_USid=SLN15398 Regards, j_alexander_stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com mailto:j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Maharishi_article.pdf Uploaded by : eptfnj eptfnj@... Description : DEVA DOOTA MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Maharishi_article.pdf File moved to this folder: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Miscellaneous%20Writings/
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blusc0ut, thanks for grabbing this for us. It's from Wikileaks and is titled New Points for the Standard Introductory Lecture on the Transcendental Meditation program from the International Course to Recertify Governors, April 2005. I don't see anything one way or the other about belief being required for TM to work, but from point #10 on, from what I can remember of the intro lectures I've been to (most recently around 20 years ago), there are some interesting differences. Can anyone who was teaching back then verify that my memory is accurate? These new points seem to involve a lot more of a hard sell, among other things. These are from 2005, before the David Lynch project with school kids and before the TMO took much of the woo-woo-iest stuff off its Web sites. Are these 2005 points reflected in intro lectures currently, or have they been toned back down? I'd imagine the kids get a more down-to-earth intro lecture in any case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /TMO - Documents/TM-introlecture-april-2005.pdf Uploaded by : blusc0ut Description : TM Intro- lecture 2005 wikileaks You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TMO%20-%20Documents/TM-introlecture-april-2005.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, blusc0ut
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Maharishi's Lectures/Esoteric Maharishi quotes.doc Uploaded by : rick_archer rick@... Description : Esoteric Maharishi Quotes You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Maharishi%27s%20Lectures/Esoteric%20Maharishi%20quotes.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, rick_archer rick@... Nice material, much of which I haven't seen before. Thanks for posting this !
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Thanks for uploading this Rick and thanks for noticing it Nabs. Lots of good material here, as you said! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Maharishi's Lectures/Esoteric Maharishi quotes.doc Uploaded by : rick_archer rick@ Description : Esoteric Maharishi Quotes You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Maharishi%27s%20Lectures/Esoteric%20Maharishi%20quotes.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html Regards, rick_archer rick@ Nice material, much of which I haven't seen before. Thanks for posting this !
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /1.pdf Uploaded by : b_long_0803 b_long_0...@... Description : government corruption You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/1.pdf I moved the file to the Members' Writings and Suggestions folder: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Members'%20%20Writings%20and%20Suggestions/
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This file has been moved to the appropriate folder: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Spiritual%20Books/ The other two files uploaded this morning have been deleted, as they had been uploaded previously and moved to the above folder. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /SuZpaper-v11n1bro.pdf Uploaded by : dick.richard...@... dick.richard...@... Description : The Potentiation Process You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/SuZpaper-v11n1bro.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmlfiles Regards, dick.richard...@... dick.richard...@...
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I for one find these uploaded files confusing. If they are mostly just text files, why not simply put them here as a post? I have problems opening them and viewing them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7/Jerry Jarvis on Jan 12 2009.zip Uploaded by : merudanda Description : Jerry remembers Nat's bedroom You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Bhagavad%20Gita%2C%20Chapter%207/Jerry%20Jarvis%20on%20Jan%2012%202009.zip To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmlfiles Regards, merudanda
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Probably because they're clueless about things like cut and paste. You don't know how many times I've seen someone start to type in an article and I've shown them right click-select all-copy and then paste in to the client Window. A couple years ago my nephew's wife created a book of Christmas song lyrics for our yearly jam. She started cracking up when we did The Twelve Days of Christmas because she left out a day when she typed it in. I had sent her a link to a lot of songs including that one so she should have just cut and paste. She said no, that wouldn't work because I wanted to change the font. My older nephew and I had to bite our tongues to keep from rolling on the floor laughing. ShempMcGurk wrote: I for one find these uploaded files confusing. If they are mostly just text files, why not simply put them here as a post? I have problems opening them and viewing them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7/Jerry Jarvis on Jan 12 2009.zip Uploaded by : merudanda Description : Jerry remembers Nat's bedroom You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Bhagavad%20Gita%2C%20Chapter%207/Jerry%20Jarvis%20on%20Jan%2012%202009.zip To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmlfiles Regards, merudanda
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: I for one find these uploaded files confusing. If they are mostly just text files, why not simply put them here as a post? I have problems opening them and viewing them. They're .flv files, actually, Flash video. You have to download them to your hard disk and have an FLV player installed on your system to play them (as opposed to playing them from the Web). And he's zipped some of them. Apparently Merudanda has realized this is a problem and has started including links to the videos on YouTube in his posts so folks who don't have FLV players can see them. But he really shouldn't upload these FLV files to our Files section anyway, because they're pretty big and eat up a lot of our limited space. I don't know what the Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7/lets hear jerry.z01 file is. When I download it and unzip it, Windows tells me it's the first file in a backup set and asks me to choose the last file in the set. I have no idea what that means. And I have no idea why Merudanda uploaded it to the Bhagavad-Gita Chapter 7 folder!
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: File: /Vedic Science/KnowStructOSX.pdf Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradh...@... Description : The famous knowledge is structured in consciousness mis-translation of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi from the Rig Veda. Note that what Vaj posted in this file is neither (a) what he claimed in his recent post was MMY's translation (he said it came from MIU documents), nor (b) the translation MMY was using at least since 1985. It's closer to the latter, but there are still many differences. Here's the translation from Vaj's file: Richa is situated in Akshara: knowledge is structured in consciousness, the nonchanging transcendental basis of all relative existence, in which reside the impulses of creative intelligence responsible for the whole manifest universe. He whose awareness is not open to this level of reality, what can these eternal expressions of knowledge accomplish for him? He whose awareness is open to it--the field of pure consciousness, the home of all knowledge--is profoundly established in it. And here's the translation MMY has been using at least since 1985 (that's the earliest citation I can find, but he may have been using it well before that): The verses of the Ved exist in the collapse of fullness (the Kshara of 'A') in the transcendental field, in which reside all the devas, the impulses of creative intelligence, the laws of nature responsible for the whole manifest universe. He whose awareness is not open to this field, what can the verses accomplish for him? Those who know this level of reality are established in evenness, wholeness of life. The verse actually means seated in the highest heaven, not structured in consciousness as often claimed by TM-bots. It's not claimed by anybody who is familiar with the translation I quoted, because structured in consciousness isn't in it. Vaj doesn't mean to say the verse, BTW; he's referring to a phrase in the verse, parame vyoman. Note that parame vyoman is translated as the nonchanging transcendental basis of all relative existence in Vaj's file, and more simply as the transcendental field in the translation I quoted. In neither version is it translated as structured in consciousness. Where Vaj got the seated in the highest heaven translation is unclear, but it doesn't seem to be on the Web in any translations, TM or non-, of this verse. But it's not too difficult to see how someone doing a poetic translation might use the phrase the highest heaven for a Sanskrit term for which someone else striving for a more precise and technical translation would use transcendental field. To claim one or the other is a mistranslation is foolish, to say the least (sort of like interpreting Genesis based on a literal reading of the King James translation). Vaj's confusion here is so convoluted it would take forever to straighten out, so I'm not going to try. From the original 1974/75 MIU Catalogue page XI If you Google any of the distinctive phrases in the translation I quoted, you'll get many hits citing it and attributing it to Maharishi, including at least three times on the MUM Web site. Here's one instance: http://is1.mum.edu/vedicreserve/tm.htm I couldn't find on the Web any of the distinctive phrases in the translation in Vaj's file. Obviously if MMY translated it that way at one time, he subsequently revised it (probably after he developed his Apaurusheya Bhashya ideas). The one I quoted is the only translation I've ever seen used in the TM context. Oh, this is interesting. Here's Aurobindo's translation: The Rishi Dirghatamas speaks of the Riks, the Mantras of the Veda, as existing 'in a supreme ether, imperishable and immutable in which all the gods are seated,' and he adds 'one who knows not That what shall he do with the Rik?' Which seems closer to supreme ether, imperishable and immutable: highest heaven or transcendental field? If Vaj had a genuine point to make, he'd do well to take another crack at it when he's able to think clearly, because what he's posted up to this point is nonsense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Vedic Science/Age of the Veda.html Uploaded by : vajradhatu108 vajradh...@... Description : The age, location and era for the Rig Veda. You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Vedic%20%22Science%22/Age%20of%20the%20Veda.html To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/general.htmlfiles Regards, vajradhatu108 vajradh...@... Slowly the FFL files are becoming a propaganda platform for the Dolly Lama.
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The Hindutva View of History: Rewriting Textbooks in India and the United States There is much ground for believing that Ancient India was central to the origins of civilization. And why? Because of the internal evidence of the Vedas themselves. 1) The Rig Veda, our oldest human text, describes the geography of Northern India, including the seven rivers. 2)The Vedic Calendar was based on astronomical data, which places the Vedic Culture in Northern India. 3)The Vedic Hymns reflect a profound spiritual culture, whose symbolism includes Yoga, Shramanism, and Divine Mother worship. 4) Wove into the fabric of the Vedas is the history of a maritime culture, reflecting a familiarity with the sea... Read more: From: Willytex Subject: Re: When did the Aryans come into India Newsgroups: alt.meditation, alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.politics.india.communist, alt.politics.india.progressive Date: February 10, 2000 http://tinyurl.com/nb2xt8 http://tinyurl.com/nb2xt8
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1) The Rig Veda, our oldest human text, describes the geography of Northern India, including the seven rivers. 2)The Vedic Calendar was based on astronomical data, which places the Vedic Culture in Northern India. So it's clearly not the cognition of the mechanics of creation then, unless it's only about the creation of one small bit of the earth's surface. I guess the TMO will be trying to match the geography of northern india to the structure of unified field theories to prove that india is the fount of all civilization.
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On Jul 14, 2009, at 1:19 PM, guyfawkes91 wrote: 1) The Rig Veda, our oldest human text, describes the geography of Northern India, including the seven rivers. 2)The Vedic Calendar was based on astronomical data, which places the Vedic Culture in Northern India. So it's clearly not the cognition of the mechanics of creation then, unless it's only about the creation of one small bit of the earth's surface. I guess the TMO will be trying to match the geography of northern india to the structure of unified field theories to prove that india is the fount of all civilization. It'll be interesting hear about how their invincible technology protected the land of the Ved as it was taken over by Muslims with swords. Pakistan and Kashmir are just so sattvic, doncha think?
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Vaj wrote: It'll be interesting hear about how their invincible technology protected the land of the Ved as it was taken over by Muslims with swords. The 'land of the Ved' was never taken over by anyone; the Buddhist pacifists lost everything and had to move to Tibet where it's very cold. The Veds are still in the land of the Ved, but very few Buddhists are left because they ran away and wouldn't fight the good fight, so they lost everything. Pakistan and Kashmir are just so sattvic... You are supposed to visit the place BEFORE you post your comments about it, Vaj.
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On Jul 14, 2009, at 5:27 PM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj wrote: It'll be interesting hear about how their invincible technology protected the land of the Ved as it was taken over by Muslims with swords. The 'land of the Ved' was never taken over by anyone; the Buddhist pacifists lost everything and had to move to Tibet where it's very cold. The Veds are still in the land of the Ved, but very few Buddhists are left because they ran away and wouldn't fight the good fight, so they lost everything. The land of the Ved--Pakistan largely, was taken over by Muslims. North India is being seeded with Madrasas. The last 350,000 Hindu pundit families left Kashmir years ago, fleeing for their lives. Pakistan and Kashmir are just so sattvic... You are supposed to visit the place BEFORE you post your comments about it, Vaj. Travel restrictions prevents most travel to these areas Willy. Haven't they shown A Mighty Heart in Texas yet?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. A little heads up about the files section... please notice that it is divided up into various folders. If you're going to upload a file, please make sure to upload it to the appropriate folder. Please do not upload files to the root directory of the files section. Thanks!
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From this file: All mystics agree that Ultimate Reality-whether It is called Allah, Brahman, Buddha-nature, En-sof, God, or the Tao-cannot be grasped by thought or expressed in words. Is that true, ALL mystics? Was there a vote? a poll? Or is this simply someones fanciful thinking -- a convenient leap of faith that makes them feel all kumbaya inside. From what I understand, western christian, greek/russian orthodox, hebrew, sufi, kabballist, egytian, greek traditional, american indian mystics do not agree on this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Spiritual Books/21st Century Books-Non-Dual Sources.doc Uploaded by : rick_archer r...@... Description : Books on non-duality from FF's 21st Century Bookstore You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Spiritual%20Books/21st%20Century%20Books-Non-Dual%20Sources.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles Regards, rick_archer r...@...
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Could you please tell us what this file is all about before we go to the trouble of downloading it? Thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /TM Research/Bibl TM Res Pub Chalmers - corrected 5- 2-9 Uploaded by : rick_archer r...@... Description : Bibliography of TM research You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TM% 20Research/Bibl%20TM%20Res%20Pub%20Chalmers%20-%20corrected%205-2-9 To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htm lfiles Regards, rick_archer r...@...
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:44 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife Could you please tell us what this file is all about before we go to the trouble of downloading it? Just a bunch of naked pictures of famous movie stars. (Earnest Borgnine, Kathy Bates, etc.) No, it's an up-to-date bibliography of TM research sent out by David OJ today.
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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Just a bunch of naked pictures of famous movie stars. (Earnest Borgnine, Kathy Bates, etc.) No, it's an up-to-date bibliography of TM research sent out by David OJ today. And the difference is?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article I read was in Friday's NYT, the WeekendArts section, in an art review titled, Mr. Natural Goes the the Museum You will enjoy it! Thanks, got it: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/05/arts/design/05crum.html?em --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work got a good write up in the NYT yesterday. No. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing it to my attention. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/robert_c rumb/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/6hjwaa I really love Robert. He is one of the most sincere, straightforward, honest people it has ever been my good fortune to meet. You just want to hug him, but you don't, because you know it would make him uncomfortable. What those who have never really dived into his more esoteric (read limited edition and expensive) work may not realize is the God's-honest-truthness of the lines from the article, ...art critic Robert Hughes once called Mr. Crumb 'the Bruegel of the 20th century.' He's that good. I'm into art. I've seen the line drawings of Bruegel and all of the other Dutch Masters. Robert's in their league. Also from the article: Mr. Crumb's work presents a vision of American life as a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques that is as gripping as it is harshly funny. Hey, I lived for a time as Robert's next-door neighbor. Life often IS a a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques in Sauve. But it's also To Die For Funny, and I loved that Robert, given all he's been through, could laugh at it as much as he does. One of the first things that endeared me to R.Crumb, the first time I met him in Paris, is that he laughed at my jokes. Really. I mean, he *really* laughed. Get a couple of glasses of wine in me, and I tell jokes. It's just who I am, and what I do. And I *understand* that some of my friends put up with my jokes only because they really, really love me. But, weirdo that I am, I really *get into* the telling of a good joke. I look at a joke as an artform, something that one practices but never masters. So I don't just tell jokes over and over, I *tune* them, and try to make them more *effective* jokes. This inner artistic quest has so far met with far too much stony non-laughter. Maybe it's my choice of jokes. But Robert really *liked* my jokes. And when he did -- and it would always take him a few seconds before he did, and realized that he did -- he would burst into the most Buddhalike laughter I have ever heard. It was like someone who carried the weight of the world around on his shoulders for a living suddenly having a moment that made him laugh. Contributing to that laughter, whenever I could, were the high points of my time in Sauve.
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I just wanted to add a bit of text about what this file that I uploaded is about: This is a 50-page intro of a book called Who, In Fact, You Really Are. Here's a description of the book: Who Are You, Really? Ever wonder about the meaning of life? Why we're here? What the Universe is all about? You're not alone. There are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of us out there. Just like you. What if the Creator were to give you a college education about the nature of the Universe? What if All That Is would dictate a book that would answer some of your deepest questions, including explaining the true nature and structure of the Universe, how to perform magic and manifest physical things, the nature of time and space in relation to consciousness, and most importantly, the absolute answer of Who, In Fact, You Really Are? This is that book. The force that expressed itself through Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed, Edgar Cayce and other great avatars who served as channels for what is commonly referred to as God communicates again today as the world begins to enter a period of Spiritual Ascension with a new consciousness and awareness. This force, which refers to itself as Cosmic Awareness so that it cannot be confused with an entity or a personality, has been communicating for more than 40 years through several carefully trained channels who go deep into trance and communicate the energies and symbols that are expressed, putting them into human language. As it reveals this information, Cosmic Awareness does not ask you to believe anything, but to question, explore, doubt and discover for yourself the Truth that is within you to discover Who, In Fact, You Really Are. The book consists of a set of 144 carefully structured lessons that took over 10 years to create. They are designed to lead you, step by step, from where you are now to where you want to be. This amazing information begins with Cosmic Awareness telling you what Cosmic Awareness itself is, how the Universe and humans (and non-humans) were created, and leads you through birth, childhood, adulthood, magic, sex, death and far beyond explaining all of the Secrets of the Universe that everyone is looking for. It is some of the most relevant, fascinating and spiritually uplifting information ever released on Earth. -- Dave --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of suggestions, how's about not uploading files that don't have a clear explanation of what the document is in the title. I, for one, am never going to click on a document called Intro.pdf...to put such a document up is downright rude. *At least* tell us what it is, right?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Intro.pdf Uploaded by : transactual [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Amazing channeled book from the Creator You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Intro.pdf The file is now in the folder labeled Members' Writings and Suggestions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Intro.pdf Uploaded by : transactual dave@ Description : Amazing channeled book from the Creator You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Intro.pdf The file is now in the folder labeled Members' Writings and Suggestions. Speaking of suggestions, how's about not uploading files that don't have a clear explanation of what the document is in the title. I, for one, am never going to click on a document called Intro.pdf...to put such a document up is downright rude. *At least* tell us what it is, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Emily Latella time. I see there is a Description field. Never mind. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Intro.pdf Uploaded by : transactual dave@ Description : Amazing channeled book from the Creator You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Intro.pdf The file is now in the folder labeled Members' Writings and Suggestions. Speaking of suggestions, how's about not uploading files that don't have a clear explanation of what the document is in the title. I, for one, am never going to click on a document called Intro.pdf...to put such a document up is downright rude. *At least* tell us what it is, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work got a good write up in the NYT yesterday. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Intro.pdf Uploaded by : transactual dave@ Description : Amazing channeled book from the Creator You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Intro.pdf The file is now in the folder labeled Members' Writings and Suggestions. Speaking of suggestions, how's about not uploading files that don't have a clear explanation of what the document is in the title. I, for one, am never going to click on a document called Intro.pdf...to put such a document up is downright rude. *At least* tell us what it is, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work got a good write up in the NYT yesterday. No. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing it to my attention. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/robert_crumb/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/6hjwaa I really love Robert. He is one of the most sincere, straightforward, honest people it has ever been my good fortune to meet. You just want to hug him, but you don't, because you know it would make him uncomfortable. What those who have never really dived into his more esoteric (read limited edition and expensive) work may not realize is the God's-honest-truthness of the lines from the article, ...art critic Robert Hughes once called Mr. Crumb 'the Bruegel of the 20th century.' He's that good. I'm into art. I've seen the line drawings of Bruegel and all of the other Dutch Masters. Robert's in their league. Also from the article: Mr. Crumb's work presents a vision of American life as a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques that is as gripping as it is harshly funny. Hey, I lived for a time as Robert's next-door neighbor. Life often IS a a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques in Sauve. But it's also To Die For Funny, and I loved that Robert, given all he's been through, could laugh at it as much as he does. One of the first things that endeared me to R.Crumb, the first time I met him in Paris, is that he laughed at my jokes. Really. I mean, he *really* laughed. Get a couple of glasses of wine in me, and I tell jokes. It's just who I am, and what I do. And I *understand* that some of my friends put up with my jokes only because they really, really love me. But, weirdo that I am, I really *get into* the telling of a good joke. I look at a joke as an artform, something that one practices but never masters. So I don't just tell jokes over and over, I *tune* them, and try to make them more *effective* jokes. This inner artistic quest has so far met with far too much stony non-laughter. Maybe it's my choice of jokes. But Robert really *liked* my jokes. And when he did -- and it would always take him a few seconds before he did, and realized that he did -- he would burst into the most Buddhalike laughter I have ever heard. It was like someone who carried the weight of the world around on his shoulders for a living suddenly having a moment that made him laugh. Contributing to that laughter, whenever I could, were the high points of my time in Sauve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
The article I read was in Friday's NYT, the WeekendArts section, in an art review titled, Mr. Natural Goes the the Museum You will enjoy it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey, did you notice the Crumbster, or an exhibit about his work got a good write up in the NYT yesterday. No. And I thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing it to my attention. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/robert_c rumb/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/6hjwaa I really love Robert. He is one of the most sincere, straightforward, honest people it has ever been my good fortune to meet. You just want to hug him, but you don't, because you know it would make him uncomfortable. What those who have never really dived into his more esoteric (read limited edition and expensive) work may not realize is the God's-honest-truthness of the lines from the article, ...art critic Robert Hughes once called Mr. Crumb 'the Bruegel of the 20th century.' He's that good. I'm into art. I've seen the line drawings of Bruegel and all of the other Dutch Masters. Robert's in their league. Also from the article: Mr. Crumb's work presents a vision of American life as a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques that is as gripping as it is harshly funny. Hey, I lived for a time as Robert's next-door neighbor. Life often IS a a phantasmagoric gallery of grotesques in Sauve. But it's also To Die For Funny, and I loved that Robert, given all he's been through, could laugh at it as much as he does. One of the first things that endeared me to R.Crumb, the first time I met him in Paris, is that he laughed at my jokes. Really. I mean, he *really* laughed. Get a couple of glasses of wine in me, and I tell jokes. It's just who I am, and what I do. And I *understand* that some of my friends put up with my jokes only because they really, really love me. But, weirdo that I am, I really *get into* the telling of a good joke. I look at a joke as an artform, something that one practices but never masters. So I don't just tell jokes over and over, I *tune* them, and try to make them more *effective* jokes. This inner artistic quest has so far met with far too much stony non-laughter. Maybe it's my choice of jokes. But Robert really *liked* my jokes. And when he did -- and it would always take him a few seconds before he did, and realized that he did -- he would burst into the most Buddhalike laughter I have ever heard. It was like someone who carried the weight of the world around on his shoulders for a living suddenly having a moment that made him laugh. Contributing to that laughter, whenever I could, were the high points of my time in Sauve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Rick: FFLife is now a classified Ad depot? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Local Services - For Sale/27 TV Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Sony TV for sale You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local%20Services% 20-%20For%20Sale/27%22%20TV To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htm lfiles Regards, rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 11:07 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife Rick: FFLife is now a classified Ad depot? For years there has been a folder in the files section where one can post notices about commercial services. I see no harm in posting for sale items there either. Does anyone object to that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Local Services/ARTISAN GELATO Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Now being served at the juice bar at Small Planet Restaurant in downtown Fairfield You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local% 20Services/ARTISAN%20GELATO Can someone send me a Dark venezuelan chocolate and pistachio one?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hugo Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:43 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File : /Local Services/ARTISAN GELATO Uploaded by : rick_archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Now being served at the juice bar at Small Planet Restaurant in downtown Fairfield You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local% http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local%25 20Services/ARTISAN%20GELATO Can someone send me a Dark venezuelan chocolate and pistachio one? Would love to. BTW, Carol Morehead is my sister.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /File0001.jpg Uploaded by : bob_brigante Description : WSJ review of Lynch book, film You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/File0001.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, bob_brigante * I changed the file name to: WSJ on Lynch (last file on page) -- mostly negative review of Lynch's book, movie People feel much the same way about his work as he does about David Lynch's it seems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Monkey *** I never saw the show, but the fact that it failed to capture the attention of the masses does not mean it was no good. One of the funniest shows ever done, Get a life ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_Life_(TV_series) ), was cancelled in favor of the usual sitcom drivel that droolers go for. In any event, more to the point, Kyle Smith's review of Lynch's work does make some valid points and is coherent, although certainly harsh. At least TM fans can be glad that shock jock Howard Stern does everybody a favor and does not talk much about TM, since the weird and tasteless endorsing TM is probably not all that useful for the movement. I guess Lynch's fan base will care about his favorable attitude toward TM and others will just ignore him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Get a Life was hilarious, particularly the SPEWY episode, where they ate the extraterrestrial. --- bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /File0001.jpg Uploaded by : bob_brigante Description : WSJ review of Lynch book, film You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/File0001.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, bob_brigante * I changed the file name to: WSJ on Lynch (last file on page) -- mostly negative review of Lynch's book, movie People feel much the same way about his work as he does about David Lynch's it seems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Monkey *** I never saw the show, but the fact that it failed to capture the attention of the masses does not mean it was no good. One of the funniest shows ever done, Get a life ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_a_Life_(TV_series) ), was cancelled in favor of the usual sitcom drivel that droolers go for. In any event, more to the point, Kyle Smith's review of Lynch's work does make some valid points and is coherent, although certainly harsh. At least TM fans can be glad that shock jock Howard Stern does everybody a favor and does not talk much about TM, since the weird and tasteless endorsing TM is probably not all that useful for the movement. I guess Lynch's fan base will care about his favorable attitude toward TM and others will just ignore him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /File0001.jpg Uploaded by : bob_brigante Description : WSJ review of Lynch book, film You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/File0001.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, bob_brigante * I changed the file name to: WSJ on Lynch (last file on page) -- mostly negative review of Lynch's book, movie
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /File0001.jpg Uploaded by : bob_brigante Description : WSJ review of Lynch book, film You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/File0001.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, bob_brigante * I changed the file name to: WSJ on Lynch (last file on page) -- mostly negative review of Lynch's book, movie People feel much the same way about his work as he does about David Lynch's it seems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Monkey
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. In this meditation we do not try. We do not try to think the mantra clearly. Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation it is a faint idea lurk Whoa! I think I've heard the faint idea -idea only in connection with TM-siddhis To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. In this meditation we do not try. We do not try to think the mantra clearly. Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation it is a faint idea lurk Whoa! I think I've heard the faint idea -idea only in connection with TM-siddhis Haven't been checked lately? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. In this meditation we do not try. We do not try to think the mantra clearly. Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation it is a faint idea lurk Whoa! I think I've heard the faint idea -idea only in connection with TM-siddhis Haven't been checked lately? Well, uh, some 25 years ago... And my mantra definately seems to work better if I pronounce the last letter rather clearly, as it was emphasized during my initiation by Mr J. H. He said something like the last sound resembles beep, after he noticed, I believe, that I repeated that part of my mantra to him somewhat sloppily. So, there seems to be some problems with the mantras when the sounds in them don't appear in a language at all, or in a particular phonotactic position, for instance at the end of a word. An example, sort of, might be the Japanese and Chinese. In my understanding they have a hard time making any difference between the sounds 'r' and 'l'. Another example could be the German word for 'I' (ich), which for instance native speakers of English tend to pronounce like 'ik'hmmm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. In this meditation we do not try. We do not try to think the mantra clearly. Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation it is a faint idea lurk Whoa! I think I've heard the faint idea -idea only in connection with TM-siddhis Haven't been checked lately? Well, uh, some 25 years ago... And my mantra definately seems to work better if I pronounce the last letter rather clearly, as it was emphasized during my initiation by Mr J. H. He said something like the last sound resembles beep, after he noticed, I believe, that I repeated that part of my mantra to him somewhat sloppily. So, there seems to be some problems with the mantras when the sounds in them don't appear in a language at all, or in a particular phonotactic position, for instance at the end of a word. An example, sort of, might be the Japanese and Chinese. In my understanding they have a hard time making any difference between the sounds 'r' and 'l'. Another example could be the German word for 'I' (ich), which for instance native speakers of English tend to pronounce like 'ik'hmmm Disagree on that. I have heard teachers from all around the world pronounce Maharishis mantras, differently, with their own dialect. Yet they work. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. In this meditation we do not try. We do not try to think the mantra clearly. Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation it is a faint idea lurk Whoa! I think I've heard the faint idea -idea only in connection with TM-siddhis Haven't been checked lately? Well, uh, some 25 years ago... And my mantra definately seems to work better if I pronounce the last letter rather clearly, as it was emphasized during my initiation by Mr J. H. He said something like the last sound resembles beep, after he noticed, I believe, that I repeated that part of my mantra to him somewhat sloppily. So, there seems to be some problems with the mantras when the sounds in them don't appear in a language at all, or in a particular phonotactic position, for instance at the end of a word. An example, sort of, might be the Japanese and Chinese. In my understanding they have a hard time making any difference between the sounds 'r' and 'l'. Another example could be the German word for 'I' (ich), which for instance native speakers of English tend to pronounce like 'ik'hmmm There's no works better with TM. you DEFINITELY need to get checked... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And (please forward to the schoolboard and the Marin Newspaper). There were aliens dissected at Area 51 in the 1950's. Urgent. Please publish along with unsubstantiated, unscientific, along with arms wildly flailing. claims about the negative effects of TM. OffWorld Regards, gimari03 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: And (please forward to the schoolboard and the Marin Newspaper). There were aliens dissected at Area 51 in the 1950's. Urgent. Please publish along with unsubstantiated, unscientific, along with arms wildly flailing. claims about the negative effects of TM. OffWorld Regards, gimari03 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 10/17/06 3:56 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, Im surprised you would speak this way to Gina. Its not your style. What are you so upset about? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/17/06 3:56 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 10/17/06 11:44 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, Im surprised you would speak this way to Gina. Its not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. Its about Gina Catenas letter to local school officials, raising concerns about the introduction of TM in their high school. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... Huh?? That was geezerfreak, not me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... Huh?? That was geezerfreak, not me. I know. I was responding to geezerfreak's 'inner Judy', whom he curses... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... Huh?? That was geezerfreak, not me. I know. I was responding to geezerfreak's 'inner Judy', whom he curses... Sorry my latest exchange with you has upset you so much. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... Huh?? That was geezerfreak, not me. I know. I was responding to geezerfreak's 'inner Judy', whom he curses... Oh puh-leeeze. She loves the attention (any attention) and you know it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... Huh?? That was geezerfreak, not me. I know. I was responding to geezerfreak's 'inner Judy', whom he curses... Oh puh-leeeze. She loves the attention (any attention) and you know it. ??? Something must be in the pixels today. Folks seem to be freaking out right and left. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Experiencing some, uh, roughness of awareness today Bobby? Hey, c'mon Judy, be nice... Huh?? That was geezerfreak, not me. I know. I was responding to geezerfreak's 'inner Judy', whom he curses... Oh puh-leeeze. She loves the attention (any attention) and you know it. I am reaching that conclusion. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Yes but no-one of serious mind would listen to you without documented and published statistics. No-one listens to anecdotal evidence. If 10 people say they were damaged and 1,000 claim no damage but only benefits, then you have a statistically insignificant group -- not considered typical. You can't just go around saying people are seriously damaged by being Christians (even though they are) just because a few people want to claim it. Well, you can go around claiming it but no-one will listen Fact of life. OffWorld (false name) Place: No-where that any Ru can find me. Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: And (please forward to the schoolboard and the Marin Newspaper). There were aliens dissected at Area 51 in the 1950's. Urgent. Please publish along with unsubstantiated, unscientific, along with arms wildly flailing. claims about the negative effects of TM. OffWorld Regards, gimari03 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tks Offworld, Sorry, but my claims are substantianted. Many folks that I know and love personally were seriously damaged. Just offering a full disclosure of possibilites.. no different than the warning label on my dinner vino. To remain silent (in my own neighborhood) about what I know and lived, would be the ultimate disservice. I appreciate your opinion as well, and would not ridicule you, either on this world nor off. Oh come on, loosen up, and ridicule someone for a change. I'm all yours. Go for it. One-two punch smackdown. You should try it. It will do you some good. Please use me as a punchbag. OffWorld Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: And (please forward to the schoolboard and the Marin Newspaper). There were aliens dissected at Area 51 in the 1950's. Urgent. Please publish along with unsubstantiated, unscientific, along with arms wildly flailing. claims about the negative effects of TM. OffWorld Regards, gimari03 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Rick Archer wrote: on 10/17/06 11:44 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. It¹s about Gina Catena¹s letter to local school officials, raising concerns about the introduction of TM in their high school. Marin county is also a hotbed of a lot of different Indiaphile groups who will probably respond why can't we teach our meditation there too? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer wrote: on 10/17/06 11:44 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. It¹s about Gina Catena¹s letter to local school officials, raising concerns about the introduction of TM in their high school. Marin county is also a hotbed of a lot of different Indiaphile groups who will probably respond why can't we teach our meditation there too? They can. If they provide a lot of research on its effectiveness. And they offer it for free or find a scholarship sponsor. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 10/17/06 3:56 AM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? I've seen Gimby lash out like this. I've even seen him use the f-word without the asterisks. I don't think it takes much to get him to this point. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer wrote: on 10/17/06 11:44 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. It¹s about Gina Catena¹s letter to local school officials, raising concerns about the introduction of TM in their high school. Marin county is also a hotbed of a lot of different Indiaphile groups who will probably respond why can't we teach our meditation there too? And, of course,they can if this goes through. NOw, which group are you going to learn meditation from, the one that is free, and normally costs $2500 except for the donation from a rich guy, or the one that is free, and normally costs $50? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Rick Archer wrote: on 10/17/06 11:44 AM, Peter at drpetersutphen@ wrote: Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. It¹s about Gina Catena¹s letter to local school officials, raising concerns about the introduction of TM in their high school. Marin county is also a hotbed of a lot of different Indiaphile groups who will probably respond why can't we teach our meditation there too? They can. If they provide a lot of research on its effectiveness. And they offer it for free or find a scholarship sponsor. Since it's in the form of a club, they don't even need to show research. They just have to convince the parents to let their kids do it,and find the teachers willing to teach it for free with 25 30 minute followup sessions PER student over the next year or two, also for free... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Rick Archer wrote: on 10/17/06 11:44 AM, Peter at drpetersutphen@ wrote: Gina Catena (real name) San Rafael, Calif. F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? Rick, what is this thread about? Obviously Robert is pretty p.o'd about something. Yes, I am going through some anger issues; It was just a knee jerk response; my ex-wife is Italian, so some of it stems from this; My divorce was nasty, and the aftermath, is still nasty. And I remember back when the whole TM is a religion thing, went through the courts and set the movements teaching in school back to zero. So, what you have since then is violence and chaos in the schools and everyone can see, how TM would have helped; but then again, you have a country run by assholes... Which hopefully will be changing soon; When Bush and his sleezy whole crew can be tried as war criminals... It¹s about Gina Catena¹s letter to local school officials, raising concerns about the introduction of TM in their high school. Marin county is also a hotbed of a lot of different Indiaphile groups who will probably respond why can't we teach our meditation there too? They can. If they provide a lot of research on its effectiveness. And they offer it for free or find a scholarship sponsor. Since it's in the form of a club, they don't even need to show research. They just have to convince the parents to let their kids do it,and find the teachers willing to teach it for free with 25 30 minute followup sessions PER student over the next year or two, also for free... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/17/06 3:56 AM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote: F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? I've seen Gimby lash out like this. I've even seen him use the f- word without the asterisks. I don't think it takes much to get him to this point. This is true; have been feeling angry and frustrated last few days.. Still need to work on that, it would seem. R.G. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 10/17/06 3:56 AM, Robert Gimbel at babajii_99@ wrote: F**K You- Gina, and all your Roman mafia relatives... Robert, I¹m surprised you would speak this way to Gina. It¹s not your style. What are you so upset about? I've seen Gimby lash out like this. I've even seen him use the f-word without the asterisks. I don't think it takes much to get him to this point. lurk It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not his mantra. It's his method of using the mantra. In this meditation we do not try. We do not try to think the mantra clearly. Mental repetition is not a clear pronunciation it is a faint idea lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I am going through some anger issues; It was just a knee jerk response; my ex-wife is Italian, so some of it stems from this; snip We're here for ya Gimby. lutk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /TM_letter_to_school_board Uploaded by : gimari03 Description : Sent to San Rafael City School Board Marin newspaper You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TM_letter_to_school_board I'm guessing this file was created on a Mac (no file extension). Windows users can read it by opening it with Word or Wordpad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /TM_letter_to_school_board Uploaded by : gimari03 Description : Sent to San Rafael City School Board Marin newspaper You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TM_letter_to_school _board To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files And (please forward to the schoolboard and the Marin Newspaper). There were aliens dissected at Area 51 in the 1950's. Urgent. Please publish along with unsubstantiated, unscientific, along with arms wildly flailing. claims about the negative effects of TM. OffWorld Regards, gimari03 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Rory Goff Nakshatra Unfolding.doc Uploaded by : j_alexander_stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Unfoldments of Brahman: The Spreadsheet Also available here: http://alex.natel.net/ffl/documents/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Be sure to send copies to Maharishi, the Rajas, Bevan and John, as I am sure they will thrill to the exuberance of having these 27 states of consciousness unfolded is such exquistie detail -- proof that the Invincible America program is bringing Heaven on Eath, where each student becomes as if a vedic seer, unfolding the most deep and precious knowledge of life, liberty and 24/7 Bliss for themselves and all mankind, while making each nation invincible, and holy, worthy for the angels and gods (but we are not a religion) walk on earth. i forsee Maharishi proclaiming this Roryeshvara Day, to be celebrated for all eternity, as the Day Heaven on Earth becaome a reality, and a celebration of Supreme knowledge unfolding fom students demonstrating perfect synchrony with each particle of the human nervous system -- including for the first time, the genitals, and totally vibrant and in accord of MMY's own yet to be revealed exposition of these most profound states of estatic human and devic bliss -- with Mahrishi's only disappointment being that Rory did not share this knowledge with the entire Dome, and to Him, personally, on the mic at the Dome so the Guru and the Student and students could thrill to each precious wave of knowledge together, thrilling each particle and all the Bramhans -- whole and partial -- through out the universe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the FairfieldLife group. File: /Rory Goff Nakshatra Unfolding.doc Uploaded by : j_alexander_stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : Unfoldments of Brahman: The Spreadsheet You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Rory%20Goff%20Nakshatra%20Unfolding.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, j_alexander_stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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HA! Good one, Akasha. I especially liked the including for the first time, the genitals. Quite true! Long live Me! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure to send copies to Maharishi, the Rajas, Bevan and John, as I am sure they will thrill to the exuberance of having these 27 states of consciousness unfolded is such exquistie detail -- proof that the Invincible America program is bringing Heaven on Eath, where each student becomes as if a vedic seer, unfolding the most deep and precious knowledge of life, liberty and 24/7 Bliss for themselves and all mankind, while making each nation invincible, and holy, worthy for the angels and gods (but we are not a religion) walk on earth. i forsee Maharishi proclaiming this Roryeshvara Day, to be celebrated for all eternity, as the Day Heaven on Earth becaome a reality, and a celebration of Supreme knowledge unfolding fom students demonstrating perfect synchrony with each particle of the human nervous system - - including for the first time, the genitals, and totally vibrant and in accord of MMY's own yet to be revealed exposition of these most profound states of estatic human and devic bliss -- with Mahrishi's only disappointment being that Rory did not share this knowledge with the entire Dome, and to Him, personally, on the mic at the Dome so the Guru and the Student and students could thrill to each precious wave of knowledge together, thrilling each particle and all the Bramhans -- whole and partial -- through out the universe. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: nablus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife Only learning from a rectified will continue the lineage. Teaching outside of Maharishis blessing will obviously result in the withdrawing of the same. Maharishi can withdraw blessings obviously, but he cannot undo Kundalini Shakti, nor can he undo anything which has been done in the name of the Holy Tradition because previous teachers taught from the lineage of the whole tradition not just from Maharishi. If such wasn't his wish then he would have just had a picture of himself on people's altars. Moreover, since his teachings are directly derived from the Shakta lineage of Sri Vidya and specifically from the Lakshmi Tantra, therefore even he has to answer to that higher intelligence. She may, or may not side with him at this late date. Interesting points. However, everyone of us was introduced to the Holy Tradition by Maharishi. Trying to ignore that step, and fool him/herself to think that they are now dealing directly with for example Guru Dev, which I know several people claim to do and is exactly what Maharishi predicted i 1983, then they are just performing some very human, though disapointing activity; making mistakes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/jDk17A/gOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Interesting points. However, everyone of us was introduced to the Holy Tradition by Maharishi. Trying to ignore that step, and fool him/herself to think that they are now dealing directly with for example Guru Dev, which I know several people claim to do and is exactly what Maharishi predicted i 1983, then they are just performing some very human, though disapointing activity; making mistakes.Well, actually, I credit my kundalini activating TM mantra to my TM teacher who was powerful and spiritually mature. Though he was never known by anyone as anything special, and I refuse to give his name to protect his privacy, nonetheless, he used to speak to me at length about his experiences, since I was so into the occult at the time, when I was fourteen. And it was clear that the shakti was directly from him. The fact that many learn TM and do not experience anything of benefit from it proves that the teacher is directly important. All this Holy Tradition stuff during puja is another way of the teacher to transcend boundaries and create causes and conditions for their student to also transcend. Sure TM came from Maharishi. But that was it. The rest was just the lunatic ravings of a spiritual Hitler, ostensibly a personality no different from President Bush, except for his spiritual emphasis. I never felt a connection to Maharishi, and whenI saw him during Taste of Utopia, it left no impression upon me. So sorry. I mean, I appreciate TM and still practice it, but it's not the only positive spiritual practice on Earth, and the lack of alternate spiritual experiences of people sitting at his feet for 40 years emphatically does not make them experts on who is a Satguru or not. Ssatgurus will decrease mental disturbances and conceptuality, not increase them. Satgurus will enhance personal peacefulness, not thrust one into life/death situations. And again, the concept of recertifying people who were devoted is not known and has never been known on this Earth. One does not demand repentance from those who ae ones constituents, of already profoundly good people, and chastise them as if they are mere cattle. This is not the action of someone of realization. I know, how can I know these things? Me, merely a common person of no sidhis and less realization? I know them because I don't cocme here to say these things. They just keep coming up from me over and over spontaneously, and I learn about them as I write. I have no personal stake in the Movement any longer, and feel no real need to even discuss it, and yet, here I am discussing it, feeling the need to say these things. And over and over I say them. My opinions about Maharishi's acomplishments change, up and down, up and down. That's how I know that Maharishi acts merely within samsara. He is not taking people beyond it. One can transcend a million times, but if the path to liberation is not made clear then nobody will ever reach it. Maharishi has not liberated one person. Nobody in TM has even a sense of jnana. Round and round they go, where are they headed? Nobody knows! Strip malls, tallest buildings, pundit nations, tv repair shops, sales, sales, sales This is not the path to liberation. When Maharishi gives direct pointing out of ones nature so that there is no longer the slightest doubt, then I'll credit him with beneficience and not harmfulness. Until then. Hail Raam, oh Brother, can you spare a Mudra? Actually, I am always sort of baffled by Maharishi. He's really 'out there' and my perpetual uncertainty about him and confusion about his motives is why I return again and again to distrust of him, in spite of TM. So I simply cannot credit him wholeheartedly with all the mystical stuff that others do. I must look at him as a merely ordinary person who like an ordinary person, is confused, and caught in the round and round of samsara, as ascribe his shakti to another source, either the purported Holy Tradition, or else to Sri Devi Herself. Because the world has not changed for the better. To think it has is to be blinkered like a mule. I don't think TMers have not helped however, but the correspondences of the TM research are specious, and merely pseudoscience. The premise that SCI is some science is preposterous. And all this says to me that the element of conceptuality of rank dualism is the reality of the TM mindset, not advaita. And therefore the lineage holder - Maharishi - is a rank dualist. Just because of all the confusion of those who serve him. If the master is unclear then he is not a master at all. Nevermind what sorts of illusions of grandeur have developed around him. That's all just a more spacious or glorious cage. All these TM followers and not one with nondual jnana. each one moving from hut to castle yes maybe, but still in just a bugger cage. No freedom from craving and no liberation from ones basic tendencies - vrittis. Blissful technique yes,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
One should not listen to me as ifI know anything for sure. Only your heart will tell you. I am not sure of anything. Maharishi is an enigma to me. I hope what he says is truth. I have yet to really see it. But that doesn't mean that what he says is impossible. I hope his visions pan out and save humanity from the threat of extermination of war and treasonous and poisonous actions. If he has headed off humanities destruction then by any means that is acceptable. he is the 'great Seer' so he says, So be it! I had good experiences in the Movement. Though some not so good experiences, such as not learning how to manifest my personal potential. And being attached to my short life, that simply wasn't enough for me. To worship Brahmins exclusively. To serve with blind faith. It wasn't my nature. Do what thou wilt. Love under will. Kudos to Crowley for that one. My will was elsewhere, with the Vajrayana. I have had nothing but support from my Tibetan teachers. And their sanghas. I had no support from the Movement insofar as the longevity of my life and personal practice. TM alone was not enough for me. So for me Maharishi is not the answer. But maybe for others, he is. It's wrong for me to say what is right and wrong for all people. I sort of feel that's the case for others too. And so my reticence to simply believe the words of a Guru, when it comes to all others. Maheshvara is the face of Shiva that obscures the truth. Mahesh may be a great protector of life, to me, but he is not the final say on matters spiritual. To me. May it benefit! - Original Message - From: Kirk To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife Interesting points. However, everyone of us was introduced to the Holy Tradition by Maharishi. Trying to ignore that step, and fool him/herself to think that they are now dealing directly with for example Guru Dev, which I know several people claim to do and is exactly what Maharishi predicted i 1983, then they are just performing some very human, though disapointing activity; making mistakes. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Satgurus will decrease mental disturbances and conceptuality, not increase them. Satgurus will enhance personal peacefulness, not thrust one into life/death situations. Might I ask how many Satgurus you have worked with personally? If the answer is None, then I might suggest that the above is one of those 'reified concepts' you might discard during the upcoming retreat. :-) I know, how can I know these things? Me, merely a common person of no sidhis and less realization? I know them because I don't cocme here to say these things. They just keep coming up from me over and over spontaneously... As do other concepts... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Actually my late lama was a satguru. HHDL is a satguru, and others. But you're right, and I deleted my posts so as not to look crazy or start a new anti-kirk flame war. So peace out. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Satgurus will decrease mental disturbances and conceptuality, not increase them. Satgurus will enhance personal peacefulness, not thrust one into life/death situations. Might I ask how many Satgurus you have worked with personally? If the answer is None, then I mightsuggest that the above is one of those 'reifiedconcepts' you might discard during the upcoming retreat. :-) I know, how can I know these things? Me, merely a common person of no sidhis and less realization? I know them because I don't cocme here to say these things. They just keep coming up from me over and over spontaneously...As do other concepts... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
I know, how can I know these things? Me, merely a common person of no sidhis and less realization? I know them because I don't cocme here to say these things. They just keep coming up from me over and over spontaneously...As do other concepts... :-)---I have no right to be here at FFLife any longer. I was looking for a way to send some time, but I come here and then get riled up. It's not a healthy thing. So I will again take my leave. May all be well. May Maharishi's will be served. May the world become a better place there by. See you all again next time. Peace. Out. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design.http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM~- To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Kirk, I'm not sure why you feel you don't belong here, but if it's because of some of the self-important claptrap that gets posted on a regular basis, I would try to ignore it and just read the posts you find enjoyable. Letting yourself be pushed out does no good to you or anyone else. You belong here as much as anyone. Sal On Jun 17, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Kirk wrote: ---I have no right to be here at FFLife any longer. I was looking for a way to send some time, but I come here and then get riled up. It's not a healthy thing. So I will again take my leave. May all be well. May Maharishi's will be served. May the world become a better place there by. See you all again next time. Peace. Out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/17/06 9:33 AM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk, I'm not sure why you feel you don't belong here, but if it's because of some of the self-important claptrap that gets posted on a regular basis, I would try to ignore it and just read the posts you find enjoyable. Letting yourself be pushed out does no good to you or anyone else. You belong here as much as anyone. Sal I forwarded this to him because he already unsubscribed. On Jun 17, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Kirk wrote: ---I have no right to be here at FFLife any longer. I was looking for a way to send some time, but I come here and then get riled up. It's not a healthy thing. So I will again take my leave. May all be well. May Maharishi's will be served. May the world become a better place there by. See you all again next time. Peace. Out. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Thanks. Sal On Jun 17, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/17/06 9:33 AM, Sal Sunshine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk, I'm not sure why you feel you don't belong here, but if it's because of some of the self-important claptrap that gets posted on a regular basis, I would try to ignore it and just read the posts you find enjoyable. Letting yourself be pushed out does no good to you or anyone else. You belong here as much as anyone. Sal I forwarded this to him because he already unsubscribed. On Jun 17, 2006, at 7:47 AM, Kirk wrote: ---I have no right to be here at FFLife any longer. I was looking for a way to send some time, but I come here and then get riled up. It's not a healthy thing. So I will again take my leave. May all be well. May Maharishi's will be served. May the world become a better place there by. See you all again next time. Peace. Out.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/15/06 2:06 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. At Estes Park, someone asked Jerry about adding MMYs name to the puja and he said, No yet. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/15/06 3:25 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding his name to the puja would be an extreme step, but mark my words you'll see a movement within the movement to do so, even if it doesn't succeed. And the result will be bitter infighting between one group of people who are convinced that they are doing what Maharishi really wanted and another group that is equally convinced that they are doing what Maharishi really wanted. Maybe the argument will go something like, He didnt want his name in the puja while he was alive, because he was deferential to Guru Dev, but now that he has passed, it is entirely appropriate. After all, Hagelin and others have already been praising him as The greatest saint ever to walk the earth. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/15/06 3:25 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding his name to the puja would be an extreme step, but mark my words you'll see a movement within the movement to do so, even if it doesn't succeed. And the result will be bitter infighting between one group of people who are convinced that they are doing what Maharishi really wanted and another group that is equally convinced that they are doing what Maharishi really wanted. Maybe the argument will go something like, ³He didn¹t want his name in the puja while he was alive, because he was deferential to Guru Dev, but now that he has passed, it is entirely appropriate.² After all, Hagelin and others have already been praising him as ³The greatest saint ever to walk the earth.² We already see how he feels about the Tradition. He's off to the side in the painting he commissioned, as I said. I find it difficult to believe that he would spend so much time (I heard months) working with the artist to convey a certain message, and then change his mind. That's not to say that someone might not decide that they know what he really meant, but it seems more than obvious that he doesn't consider himself to be next in line. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/mDk17A/lOaOAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: snip I don't think anyone in the Movement has the balls to question MMY. But if they did he probably would say straight up that he is not liberated. He is still in duality. snip I do admire him. He might be much much more evolved that I will ever be, but he does not have the characteristics of those of the Holy Tradition. Hi, I personally believe that people don't believe he is who he is due to brainwashing. Just as TB's want desperately to believe who he is, due to brainwashing. Same mirror image process. That's neither accurate nor intelligent, Jim. You know that we've discussed a little of this via email and if I remember correctly, you've never even met the man. You are welcome to your opinion of who and what he is, but I don't think the only reason that someone who spent a great deal of time around him might think he wasn't enlightened is brainwashing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Kirk wrote: a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the source of his power. State of contemplation of Brahman is bliss and contentment. The sort which keeps a person in their cave for fourty years saying, no no no, I don't care to come out. Ostensibly one stays in their cave until someone demands their service. But one who is running forward after some goals here and there, is still in the duality of their senses and the objects of their senses. Oh, I don't think anyone in the Movement has the balls to question MMY. But if they did he probably would say straight up that he is not liberated. He is still in duality. I am denigrating him any longer. I do admire him. He might be much much more evolved that I will ever be, but he does not have the characteristics of those of the Holy Tradition. Well I think he should get the toll booth attendent to the Holy Trad. position. With an airbrush, it'd be easy to stencil in--standin' there collectin' the tokens to the turnpike to enlightenment. Don't worry dude, this is a Vedic turnpike so there's no pollution and all the money's for world peace, honest... I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Kirk wrote: a sign of guilt? or dualism of his mind? One would think that since he puts his photo on all his manifest actions he would place it in the Holy Tradition which is the source of his power. State of contemplation of Brahman is bliss and contentment. The sort which keeps a person in their cave for fourty years saying, no no no, I don't care to come out. Ostensibly one stays in their cave until someone demands their service. But one who is running forward after some goals here and there, is still in the duality of their senses and the objects of their senses. Oh, I don't think anyone in the Movement has the balls to question MMY. But if they did he probably would say straight up that he is not liberated. He is still in duality. I am denigrating him any longer. I do admire him. He might be much much more evolved that I will ever be, but he does not have the characteristics of those of the Holy Tradition. Well I think he should get the toll booth attendent to the Holy Trad. position. With an airbrush, it'd be easy to stencil in--standin' there collectin' the tokens to the turnpike to enlightenment. Don't worry dude, this is a Vedic turnpike so there's no pollution and all the money's for world peace, honest... I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. As long as the TMO survives as MMY wants it tok, MMY's name will NEVER be part of the puja. He's had his official portrait added to the tradition of masters as a tiny figure in white standing respectfully to the side, well away from the river that flows through them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. As long as the TMO survives as MMY wants it tok, MMY's name will NEVER be part of the puja. He's had his official portrait added to the tradition of masters as a tiny figure in white standing respectfully to the side, well away from the river that flows through them. Your point is slightly irrelevant. After he dies, the TM movement will survive as the people who run it want it to survive, not as Maharishi wants it. If they want to reinterpret his wishes creatively, they will certainly do so. Just look at the history of *any* spiritual movement after its teacher died. I'd still bet on seeing a pretty determined program of Maharishi glorification. The movement will have lost not only its figurehead, but also the *only* person who could get press any time he wanted it. The public will tend to ignore the TM movement as passe (even more than they do now). So my bet is that people will start coming up with miracle stories and healing stories designed to portray Maharishi as something Really Special. This is really NOT a rap denigrating either TM or the TMO or Maharishi. It's just my guess about what we might see happen after Maharishi's death, based on what has happened in hundreds of spiritual traditions after their teachers' deaths. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. As long as the TMO survives as MMY wants it tok, MMY's name will NEVER be part of the puja. He's had his official portrait added to the tradition of masters as a tiny figure in white standing respectfully to the side, well away from the river that flows through them. Your point is slightly irrelevant. After he dies, the TM movement will survive as the people who run it want it to survive, not as Maharishi wants it. If they want to reinterpret his wishes creatively, they will certainly do so. Just look at the history of *any* spiritual movement after its teacher died. I'd still bet on seeing a pretty determined program of Maharishi glorification. The movement will have lost not only its figurehead, but also the *only* person who could get press any time he wanted it. The public will tend to ignore the TM movement as passe (even more than they do now). So my bet is that people will start coming up with miracle stories and healing stories designed to portray Maharishi as something Really Special. This is really NOT a rap denigrating either TM or the TMO or Maharishi. It's just my guess about what we might see happen after Maharishi's death, based on what has happened in hundreds of spiritual traditions after their teachers' deaths. I've no doubt that there will be a move to deify or whatever MMY (some already deify him), but I was responding mostly to your 5 years lmit. I don't think that there will be any move towards this from within the TMO for many, MANY years. In fact, if MMY is correct, there never will be, as long as technological society endures. Every talk that MMY has ever given credits his teacher and the tradition of masters. In fact, since the next generation of TM teachers won't have face time (even via closed circuit TV) with MMY, there will be even less tendency to put him on a pedestal, IMHO. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. As long as the TMO survives as MMY wants it tok, MMY's name will NEVER be part of the puja. He's had his official portrait added to the tradition of masters as a tiny figure in white standing respectfully to the side, well away from the river that flows through them. Your point is slightly irrelevant. After he dies, the TM movement will survive as the people who run it want it to survive, not as Maharishi wants it. If they want to reinterpret his wishes creatively, they will certainly do so. Just look at the history of *any* spiritual movement after its teacher died. I'd still bet on seeing a pretty determined program of Maharishi glorification. The movement will have lost not only its figurehead, but also the *only* person who could get press any time he wanted it. The public will tend to ignore the TM movement as passe (even more than they do now). So my bet is that people will start coming up with miracle stories and healing stories designed to portray Maharishi as something Really Special. This is really NOT a rap denigrating either TM or the TMO or Maharishi. It's just my guess about what we might see happen after Maharishi's death, based on what has happened in hundreds of spiritual traditions after their teachers' deaths. I've no doubt that there will be a move to deify or whatever MMY (some already deify him), but I was responding mostly to your 5 years lmit. I don't think that there will be any move towards this from within the TMO for many, MANY years. In fact, if MMY is correct, there never will be, as long as technological society endures. That's a sweet thought. Care to put money on it? :-) Every talk that MMY has ever given credits his teacher and the tradition of masters. In fact, since the next generation of TM teachers won't have face time (even via closed circuit TV) with MMY, there will be even less tendency to put him on a pedestal, IMHO. I think there will be even *more* of a tendency to deify him, for that very reason. Those who have worked face-to-face with a teacher tend to be a little more resistant to the deification process; those who have always been kept at a distance tend to extend that distance even further by deifying the distant teacher. I'm just talking historical trends here. Some would like to believe that the TMO will be immune to these trends. I'm not one of them; I've seen the movement fall prey to too many of them while Maharishi is still alive, much less after he's gone. Adding his name to the puja would be an extreme step, but mark my words you'll see a movement within the movement to do so, even if it doesn't succeed. And the result will be bitter infighting between one group of people who are convinced that they are doing what Maharishi really wanted and another group that is equally convinced that they are doing what Maharishi really wanted. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've no doubt that there will be a move to deify or whatever MMY (some already deify him), but I was responding mostly to your 5 years lmit. I don't think that there will be any move towards this from within the TMO for many, MANY years. Case in point: one of the bullet points on my job description as State Coordinator was going around to different TM centers and trying to convince the TM teachers who had placed a photo of Maharishi on their pujz tables during the initiation process that it probably wasn't a good idea. We'd tell them what we had been told to tell them and then leave town, and hear through the grapevine that the day after we left town the photos of Maharishi would be right back on the puja tables. Fanatics are always convinced that *their* fanaticism is the right fanaticism. It doesn't even matter if the person they are fanatical about sits them down and yells in their faces about their behavior and how inappropriate it is, they will cling to their view of what is correct and say things like, Maharishi is only yelling at me in public because he has to set an example for all the other teachers, the 'lesser' teachers who are not as clued in as I am. If we were to talk about this subject in private, he'd tell me that I was correct all along. I've seen this so many times, both in the TMO and in other spiritual trips. It's just part of the spiritual process as far as I can tell. The power of self importance is as awesome of the power of denial. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: I've no doubt that there will be a move to deify or whatever MMY (some already deify him), but I was responding mostly to your 5 years lmit. I don't think that there will be any move towards this from within the TMO for many, MANY years. Case in point: one of the bullet points on my job description as State Coordinator was going around to different TM centers and trying to convince the TM teachers who had placed a photo of Maharishi on their pujz tables during the initiation process that it probably wasn't a good idea. We'd tell them what we had been told to tell them and then leave town, and hear through the grapevine that the day after we left town the photos of Maharishi would be right back on the puja tables. Fanatics are always convinced that *their* fanaticism is the right fanaticism. It doesn't even matter if the person they are fanatical about sits them down and yells in their faces about their behavior and how inappropriate it is, they will cling to their view of what is correct and say things like, Maharishi is only yelling at me in public because he has to set an example for all the other teachers, the 'lesser' teachers who are not as clued in as I am. If we were to talk about this subject in private, he'd tell me that I was correct all along. I've seen this so many times, both in the TMO and in other spiritual trips. It's just part of the spiritual process as far as I can tell. The power of self importance is as awesome of the power of denial. You may be correct. However, recall that at least currently, ONLY recerted teachers are allowed to teach under the TM label. The recerts are the ones most likely to toe the party line in all respects. Likewise with the Rajas who are supposed to be running the show. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
I'm not really part of or terribly interested in thisconversation, but a funny thought just struck me.How long do you think it will take after Maharishidies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years.-Oh the whole - born from a bird in the Swiss Alps of the Sun, from a mantra uttered by Vishwamitra - more human than human thin will no doubt occur. Should TMO last out another 20 years people will do TM to prepare for war against the infidel. MMY has culled the nonfanatical people from his cult, so only the rank dualists are left. May MMY never teach Vedic war techniques. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not really part of or terribly interested in this conversation, but a funny thought just struck me. How long do you think it will take after Maharishi dies for the True Believers to add his name to the puja? I'd bet less than five years. As long as the TMO survives as MMY wants it tok, MMY's name will NEVER be part of the puja. He's had his official portrait added to the tradition of masters as a tiny figure in white standing respectfully to the side, well away from the river that flows through them. Your point is slightly irrelevant. After he dies, the TM movement will survive as the people who run it want it to survive, not as Maharishi wants it. If they want to reinterpret his wishes creatively, they will certainly do so. Just look at the history of *any* spiritual movement after its teacher died. I'd still bet on seeing a pretty determined program of Maharishi glorification. The movement will have lost not only its figurehead, but also the *only* person who could get press any time he wanted it. The public will tend to ignore the TM movement as passe (even more than they do now). So my bet is that people will start coming up with miracle stories and healing stories designed to portray Maharishi as something Really Special. This is really NOT a rap denigrating either TM or the TMO or Maharishi. It's just my guess about what we might see happen after Maharishi's death, based on what has happened in hundreds of spiritual traditions after their teachers' deaths. I don't understand sparaig's description of the new holy tradition picture -- MMY is the same size as Guru Dev, both are larger than all the others, and MMY is standing right next to the river, just like all the others, right at guru dev's feet. It is clearly a visual depiction of MMY being next in line in the tradition. The only distinctive feature is that MMY is standing, not sitting, which to me goes to his still being alive. Last year when MMY inaugerated sat yuga, either bevan or hagelin described MMY as the greatest sage to have ever lived on earth, which seems to me to back up T's point. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/14/06 2:11 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2006, at 3:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 6/14/06 1:33 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it make sense to go against the wishes of the person who gave you the lineage you're supposedly teaching in--and then turn around and invoke that lineage as part of the initiation process? Or is it yours to use after you got it? Then theres the question of what MMYs wishes really are, particularly in light of the quote which started this thread. It is interesting and has been mentioned numerous times before (actually I think it was Bob Brigante who first pointed it out some time ago). Of course there are also the reports of people at the recertification course who paid all that money and got reamed out by M. for hours via satellite, so he can't be too happy with what was happening. I'm not clear however on just what it was he was so upset about. He has always flown into rages, sometimes for days on end. Often it has been against the Western governments, for their war-mongering, etc. Sometimes against the medical establishment. Sometimes, but usually for not as long, against an individual. In Hertenstein, 74, there was a press secretary named John whom MMY used to yell at every night. The guy had amazing composure. He just stood there and took it night after night without batting an eye. I think the rage against the recerts has to do with blaming someone other than himself for the Movements failure. He did the same thing a few years back on a phone call to a group of Governors in California. Reaming them for having wasted their lives by getting jobs and raising families instead of working for the Movement. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife on 6/14/06 4:14 PM, bob_brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's clear that by raising the price of instruction, MMY wants the rate of initiations to be low (to avoid creating fear and havoc on an ignorant planet: http://geocities.com/bbrigante/retards.html#light ). TM teachers who go off on their own, lacking the resources of the TMO, could not possibly teach enough people to derail this strategy of slow growth of consciousness on the earth, so MMY said that he did not mind if TM teachers went off on their own, teaching TM under some other name. The TMO is not suing TM teachers who are off on their own, as long as they do not infringe on the TM trademark (several TM teachers are now teaching what they are calling the Transcendental Stress Management Program). Im pretty sure that more people are being taught TM these days by independent teachers than by official ones. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New file uploaded to FairfieldLife He has always flown into rages, sometimes for days on end. Often it has been against the Western governments, for their war-mongering, etc. Sometimes against the medical establishment. Sometimes, but usually for not as long, against an individual. In Hertenstein, 74, there was a press secretary named John whom MMY used to yell at every night. The guy had amazing composure. He just stood there and took it night after night without batting an eye. I think the rage against the recerts has to do with blaming someone other than himself for the Movements failure. He did the same thing a few years back on a phone call to a group of Governors in California. Reaming them for having wasted their lives by getting jobs and raising families instead of working for the Movement. All thisshows a rankly dualistic person. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
