Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Mark J. Reed wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. Read man bash about the startup procedure. Bash behaves differently when it is started under the name sh. -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Ben Abbott wrote: On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. For me on 10.6, if I type ... $ sh sh-3.2$ echo $SHELL /bin/bash Try `echo -n $SHELL` in sh and in bash... -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. Read man bash about the startup procedure. Bash behaves differently when it is started under the name sh. I know. That's what I meant by bash in 'sh mode'. Pasted from Terminal: $ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ exit $ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ Are you sure you're not thinking of a developer prerelease of SL rather than Leopard? -- Mark J. Reed markjr...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. Read man bash about the startup procedure. Bash behaves differently when it is started under the name sh. I know. That's what I meant by bash in 'sh mode'. Pasted from Terminal: $ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ exit $ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ Are you sure you're not thinking of a developer prerelease of SL rather than Leopard?] I'm using Snow Leopard purchased from Apple. ben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello -n Hello sh-3.2$ exit exit ben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello -n Hello sh-3.2$ exit exit ben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ echo -n Hello Helloben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ Ben -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem didn't show up until SL. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Ben Abbottbpabb...@mac.com wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. Read man bash about the startup procedure. Bash behaves differently when it is started under the name sh. I know. That's what I meant by bash in 'sh mode'. Pasted from Terminal: $ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ exit $ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ Are you sure you're not thinking of a developer prerelease of SL rather than Leopard?] I'm using Snow Leopard purchased from Apple. ben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello -n Hello sh-3.2$ exit exit ben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello -n Hello sh-3.2$ exit exit ben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ echo -n Hello Helloben-abbotts-macbook-pro:~ bpabbott$ Ben -- Mark J. Reed markjr...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem didn't show up until SL. No, this behavior has been the same since the beginning of Leopard. There has been a long campaign of correction of Fink packages, eliminating echo -n. Seeing who is its maintainer, I don't know why altpdftex has escaped until now. [] $ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ exit $ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ I don't know how you do this, but it's not what I get on Leopard. Are you sure you aren't running Tiger? Or do you set or unset the environment variable COMMAND_MODE in one opf your startup scripts? In the shells I have looked at on Leopard, this environment variable is always set to unix2003. I am not sure where it is set, probably in the Finder, but everything inherits this, unless it is changed explicitly. If you run altpdflatex with COMMAND_MODE=unix2003, you get the POSIX-sh behavior Ben has seen on SnowLeopard and I have described on Leopard. If you run it with COMMAND_MODE=legacy (and this is what TeXShop apparently does on Leopard), you get the behavior Mark is seeing in sh. Try (on Leopard, I am not near my SL machine right now) env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem didn't show up until SL. Here is a link (almost 3 years old) from Apple, explaining these issues: http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/releasenotes/Darwin/RN-Unix03Conformance/index.html and here is a discussion about TeXShop/simpdftex in this connection http://www.tug.org/pipermail/macostex-archives/2007-November/032703.html -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: I don't know how you do this, but it's not what I get on Leopard. Are you sure you aren't running Tiger? Yes, it's Leopard. Specifically, as I said in my earlier message, 10.5.8. Or do you set or unset the environment variable COMMAND_MODE in one opf your startup scripts? Ah, now we're on to something. I do have COMMAND_MODE set to legacy, so that explains that. Thanks. I was surprised to discover this setting in my environment, since it's not set in any of the bash startup files, either system or mine. It turns out that the culprit is iTerm. If I ssh in, COMMAND_MODE is not set at all; if I fire up Terminal.app, it's set to unix2003. But if I run iTerm, I inherit COMMAND_MODE=legacy. Odd feature, that. -- Mark J. Reed markjr...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Tuesday, September 01, 2009, at 10:29AM, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: OK, that confirms that what Martin said is true of Snow Leopard, which I don't think was in question. But he said it had been true since Leopard, and that's the part that I think is in error. If it wasn't changed until SL, that would also explain why the current problem didn't show up until SL. No, this behavior has been the same since the beginning of Leopard. There has been a long campaign of correction of Fink packages, eliminating echo -n. Seeing who is its maintainer, I don't know why altpdftex has escaped until now. [] $ sh sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ exit $ sh --posix sh-3.2$ echo -n Hello Hellosh-3.2$ I don't know how you do this, but it's not what I get on Leopard. Are you sure you aren't running Tiger? Or do you set or unset the environment variable COMMAND_MODE in one opf your startup scripts? In the shells I have looked at on Leopard, this environment variable is always set to unix2003. I am not sure where it is set, probably in the Finder, but everything inherits this, unless it is changed explicitly. If you run altpdflatex with COMMAND_MODE=unix2003, you get the POSIX-sh behavior Ben has seen on SnowLeopard and I have described on Leopard. If you run it with COMMAND_MODE=legacy (and this is what TeXShop apparently does on Leopard), you get the behavior Mark is seeing in sh. Try (on Leopard, I am not near my SL machine right now) env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' On Snow Leopard ... sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' -n asdf sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' asdfsh-3.2$ Ben -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Ben Abbott wrote: [] On Snow Leopard ... sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' -n asdf sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' asdfsh-3.2$ OK, so this is still the same as on Leopard. What has changed is the behavior of TeXShop, it seems to me. It doesn't supply the COMMAND_MODE=legacy any more. Which version of TeXShop are you running? -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: [] On Snow Leopard ... sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=unix2003 sh -c 'echo -n asdf' -n asdf sh-3.2$ env COMMAND_MODE=legacy sh -c 'echo -n asdf' asdfsh-3.2$ OK, so this is still the same as on Leopard. What has changed is the behavior of TeXShop, it seems to me. It doesn't supply the COMMAND_MODE=legacy any more. Which version of TeXShop are you running? I'm running 2.26 ... Installed via Fink. Ben -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted all Fink's .la files and have rebuilt the packages when the missing files were needed when running an update-all. All went rather well. Now I'm having trouble with tetex. With the simple latex document ... \documentclass[12pt,letterpaper]{article} \begin{document} hello \end{document} My TeXShop preference have ... Default Command: Latex Default Script: Tex + DVI Tex: altpdflatex Latex: altpdflatex When I typeset, I get ... ### This is /sw/bin/altpdflatex, Version $Revision: 2.14 $ ### /sw/bin/latex test.tex This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) entering extended mode (./test.tex LaTeX2e 2003/12/01 Babel v3.8d and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, b ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch, esperanto, e stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar, norsk, polis h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish, swedish, tur kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. (/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/size12.clo)) (./test.aux) [1] (./ test.aux) ) Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 220 bytes). Transcript written on test.log. ### /sw/bin/dvips -R -Poutline -o /tmp/altpdflatex.53342/-n test.ps - n test.dvi /sw/bin/dvips: ! Bad number of pages option (-n). ### FAILED to generate /tmp/altpdflatex.53342/-n test.ps () It doesn't appear my switch to Snow Leopard changed either dvips or altpdflatex. $ ls -l /sw/bin/dvips -rwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 230476 2008-07-18 01:14 /sw/bin/dvips $ ls -l /sw/bin/altpdflatex lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 9 2009-07-10 11:16 /sw/bin/altpdflatex - altpdftex Meanwhile the simple sequence below works latex test.tex dvips -f test.dvi test.ps ps2pdf13 test.ps test.pdf Any ideas as to what happened to break TeXShop? Ben -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Ben Abbott wrote: I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted [] Default Command: Latex Default Script: Tex + DVI Tex: altpdflatex Latex: altpdflatex Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of altpdftex, whose development stopped ca 2002. When I typeset, I get ... ### This is /sw/bin/altpdflatex, Version $Revision: 2.14 $ ### /sw/bin/latex test.tex This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) entering extended mode [] ### /sw/bin/dvips -R -Poutline -o /tmp/altpdflatex.53342/-n test.ps - n test.dvi /sw/bin/dvips: ! Bad number of pages option (-n). [] Any ideas as to what happened to break TeXShop? This should have been broken on Leopard already. The problem is that altpdftex uses echo -n inside a sh script, and Apple, trying to be more POSIX conforming than POSIX requires, removed the -n flag from the echo command that is executed by /bin/sh. A workaround is to edit the /sw/bin/altpdftex script by hand and to replace the first line #!/bin/sh by #!/bin/bash or, as simpdftex did, replace both occurrences of echo -n by /bin/echo -n. -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows echo -n. Does the builtin echo in sh have any way to suppress a newline? Maybe the venerable \c? On 8/31/09, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted [] Default Command: Latex Default Script: Tex + DVI Tex: altpdflatex Latex: altpdflatex Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of altpdftex, whose development stopped ca 2002. When I typeset, I get ... ### This is /sw/bin/altpdflatex, Version $Revision: 2.14 $ ### /sw/bin/latex test.tex This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) entering extended mode [] ### /sw/bin/dvips -R -Poutline -o /tmp/altpdflatex.53342/-n test.ps - n test.dvi /sw/bin/dvips: ! Bad number of pages option (-n). [] Any ideas as to what happened to break TeXShop? This should have been broken on Leopard already. The problem is that altpdftex uses echo -n inside a sh script, and Apple, trying to be more POSIX conforming than POSIX requires, removed the -n flag from the echo command that is executed by /bin/sh. A workaround is to edit the /sw/bin/altpdftex script by hand and to replace the first line #!/bin/sh by #!/bin/bash or, as simpdftex did, replace both occurrences of echo -n by /bin/echo -n. -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Sent from my mobile device Mark J. Reed markjr...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On 8/31/09, Martin Costabel costa...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Ben Abbott wrote: I followed the instructions to switch to snow leopard. I've deleted [] Default Command: Latex Default Script: Tex + DVI Tex: altpdflatex Latex: altpdflatex Contemporary versions of tex use simpdftex instead of altpdftex, whose development stopped ca 2002. When I typeset, I get ... ### This is /sw/bin/altpdflatex, Version $Revision: 2.14 $ ### /sw/bin/latex test.tex This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) entering extended mode [] ### /sw/bin/dvips -R -Poutline -o /tmp/altpdflatex.53342/-n test.ps - n test.dvi /sw/bin/dvips: ! Bad number of pages option (-n). [] Any ideas as to what happened to break TeXShop? This should have been broken on Leopard already. The problem is that altpdftex uses echo -n inside a sh script, and Apple, trying to be more POSIX conforming than POSIX requires, removed the -n flag from the echo command that is executed by /bin/sh. A workaround is to edit the /sw/bin/altpdftex script by hand and to replace the first line #!/bin/sh by #!/bin/bash or, as simpdftex did, replace both occurrences of echo -n by /bin/echo -n. Ok! Its the shell that changed. I was using bash under 10.5 (which explains why altpdftex worked for it) and have modified the default for 10.6, but apparently the TeXShop installed via Fink on 10.6 still uses sh. When I install TeXShop from the web, it works as expected. Thanks for the explanation. I'll modify the altpdf* scripts to use the bash shell. Ben -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
Mark J. Reed wrote: More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows echo -n. Yes, that's what I mean. Back in the early days of Leopard, when people complained about the missing -n in sh's echo, Apple said it is because of POSIX conformity. Does the builtin echo in sh have any way to suppress a newline? Maybe the venerable \c? Yes, \c works, although this is an extension of POSIX echo, just as -n. Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. -- Martin -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Mark J. Reed wrote: More POSIX conforming than POSIX requires would seem to be an oxymoron, if not a paradox. And POSIX explicitly allows echo -n. Yes, that's what I mean. Back in the early days of Leopard, when people complained about the missing -n in sh's echo, Apple said it is because of POSIX conformity. Does the builtin echo in sh have any way to suppress a newline? Maybe the venerable \c? Yes, \c works, although this is an extension of POSIX echo, just as -n. Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. -- Martin Would it be appropriate to patch altpdf{la}tex to avoid this problem? Ben -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Aug 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Mark J. Reed wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. For me on 10.6, if I type ... $ sh sh-3.2$ echo $SHELL /bin/bash However, the shell initiated by TeXShop appears to be something else. Bel -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Snow Leopard, TeXShop, tetex = trouble for me
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Costabelcosta...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Otherwise use printf or /bin/echo -n instead of echo -n. Or bash instead of sh. OK, now I'm confused. On my Leopard box (10.5.8), /bin/sh is a link to bash - hm, a separate copy, actually - and behaves just like bash does in 'sh mode' on other platforms, including honoring -n in echo. -- Mark J. Reed markjr...@gmail.com -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users