Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch: don't warn if a sound is clipped, was Re: For the - Author of Concorde - Continued (Email in Unicode format)
Maik Justus wrote: Hi, the enclosed patch would do the thing (but maybe SG_DEBUG would be better, it's really only a debug message, the user need not to be warned about this). Indeed and that's what the warning is for; the author should fix the sound configuration file. Erik - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OT: RL Flexwing Microlight General Skills Test (aka checkride)
--- Ralf Gerlich wrote: Hi there! Congratulations, Stuart, and I wish you many great flights and happy landings! Thanks - and to you too. Finally - Ralf - good luck with your test! Hm, I should have posted at least a quick note ;-) I already have passed my practical exam about one month ago but I just didn't have the time yet to write about it. I will make up for that when I come home from my conference at the end of the week. Congratulations! I look forward to reading about it. I also have started training for the national PPL (PPL-N), which in Germany allows you to fly single-engine planes with MTOW up to 750kg at day and within Germany. The club has a DA20 Katana for that, which costs only slightly more in the hour than our microlights. As owner of a license for aerodynamically controlled microlights in Germany you need only 7 hours of practice (incl. 10 solo takeoffs and - hopefully - landings), a theoretical exam and another practical exam til you have the PPL-N. With another 15 hours and another theoretical exam (IIRC no practical) you can call yourself owner of a full-blown JAR PPL-A. So currently I am 21 hours, two theoretical and one practical exam away from being a real SEP-pilot ;-) That's very impressive, and sounds like a great way to head towards your JAR PPL. I don't think we have such an easy migration up the weight classes here in the U.K. - at best I think I would get 10 hours credit. ___ Inbox full of unwanted email? Get leading protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1
2007/5/28, Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I changed the view strange overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody similar problems? A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG menu is on the screen at the same time. Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet. Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755 binary driver. Regards Ladislav. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 09:46:52 Ladislav Michnovič wrote: 2007/5/28, Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I changed the view strange overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody similar problems? A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG menu is on the screen at the same time. Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet. Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755 binary driver. Regards Ladislav. If I remember rightly, I had this issue in plib once, and I found it was caused by a render option - but I cannot remember which one. Try turning on/off the sky/cloud rendering options. Nick - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Scenery Palm Tree
I'm done with those palm trees. There are three available now; enough to get some variation inside the scenery when needed. In case someone needs them, simply point the browser to: http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palms_screenshot.jpg http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palm_01.zip http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palm_02.zip http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palm_03.zip Roberto - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] For the - Author of Concorde - VIDEO of actual errors - Continued
On Tue 29 May 2007 04:59, Forums Virgin Net wrote: 04/ Further: As promised here is a video showing how the control surfaces act in oposition to the commands sent to them! Download Link http://files.ww.com/files/33558.html (Web Browser Interface) http://files.ww.com/getfile.html/33558/1932104765/Concorde0911-error.divx.a vi (Download Video to HD) SNIP OpenAL error (AL_INVALID_VALUE): bind_source (alGenSources) Failed to generate audio source. OpenAL error (AL_INVALID_VALUE): bind_source (alGenSources) Failed to generate audio source. Chat [Aerotro] client 'mpdummy' has left OpenAL error (AL_INVALID_VALUE): bind_source (alGenSources) Failed to generate audio source. Regards, Aerotro That good demonstrative Video, makes me to ask two opened questions and remarks Don't we have some main modifications regarding the autopilot , from 0.9.10 to 0.9.11 pre1, which could explain that strange behaviour ? I did noticed mainly some malfunctions of the autopilot when using FG cvs HEAD branch, though seemed working when using PRE_OSG_PLIB_20061029, which don't mean it is fully working on that branch We have had modifications and improvements regarding Nasal, from 0.9.10 to 0.9.11 pre1 Concorde is using a lot of Nasal scripts. Does not these differences could explain that strange behaviour? That video shows that we have inconsistencies in the data when operating to land. Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] odd files in FG-data
Hello. Are these files forgotten in the tarball or do they have any purpose? data/Aircraft/A-10/Nasal/.#A-10.nas.1.8 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.4 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.5 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.6 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.7 data/Nasal/.#lead_target.nas.1.1 data/Nasal/.#lead_target.nas.1.3 data/Nasal/.#lead_target.nas.1.5 data/Nasal/.#track_target.nas.1.3 data/gui/dialogs/.#rendering.xml.1.21 and especially these data/Aircraft/A-10/Models/*.bak Regards Ladislav. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1
2007/5/29, Nick Warne [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I remember rightly, I had this issue in plib once, and I found it was caused by a render option - but I cannot remember which one. Try turning on/off the sky/cloud rendering options. Nick If I turn off 3D clouds rendering option, these artifacts are shown for a second and then they disappear. But they are still visible for a while when changing the view. Regards Ladislav. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1
On Tue 29 May 2007 10:46, Ladislav Michnovič wrote: 2007/5/28, Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I changed the view strange overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody similar problems? A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG menu is on the screen at the same time. Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet. Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755 binary driver. Regards Ladislav. Hello, That strange behavior, is not new to me , i have it since .may be 8 month , === only when using Menu. 7800 GS AGP card with Nvidia 9755 driver. --geometry=1800x145 That happen with any FG configuration , shadow no shadow , clouds 3D no clouds 3D , I never caught the attention on it , i should have to :) Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1
On Tue 29 May 2007 14:33, gh.robin wrote: On Tue 29 May 2007 10:46, Ladislav Michnovič wrote: 2007/5/28, Pigeon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If I changed the view strange overlaying triangles were visible on the sky. Does anybody similar problems? A while ago a few of us has come to a conclusion that it only happens with the nvidia driver. Those weird triangles appear when a FG menu is on the screen at the same time. Last time some of us confirmed the issue went away with the latest nvidia driver (9755). However with FG-plib cvs (as of yesterday) I'm still seeing this glitch with 9755. Haven't tried FG-osg yet. Well, the screenshot was made on PCI-Ex 7300 card with Nvidia 9755 binary driver. Regards Ladislav. Hello, --geometry=1800x1450= only to repare one mistake , versus my previous mail Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] A new GPL model is coming = Transport twin boom aircraft Nord 2502
Hello , A transport aircraft model is under construction, by the next days a first alpha version will be available. That aircraft is the Nord 2502 here is the link on Wikipedia which gives a descriptions of the real ones french http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_2501 english http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Noratlas and snapshots of the model http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic3.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic4.jpg Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] odd files in FG-data
Hi, thanks for catching these. I will clean them up for the next pre-release. Curt. On 5/29/07, Ladislav Michnovič wrote: Hello. Are these files forgotten in the tarball or do they have any purpose? data/Aircraft/A-10/Nasal/.#A-10.nas.1.8 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.4 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.5 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.6 data/Aircraft/Citation-Bravo/.#Bravo-set.xml.1.7 data/Nasal/.#lead_target.nas.1.1 data/Nasal/.#lead_target.nas.1.3 data/Nasal/.#lead_target.nas.1.5 data/Nasal/.#track_target.nas.1.3 data/gui/dialogs/.#rendering.xml.1.21 and especially these data/Aircraft/A-10/Models/*.bak Regards Ladislav. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange behavior of 0.9.11-pre1
On 5/29/07, gh.robin wrote: --geometry=1800x1450= only to repare one mistake , versus my previous mail I can add one more bit of information. I have seen these visual artificacts with the default menu coloring scheme. If you switch to the alternative menu/gui style (Shift-F11?) then these artifcacts go away ... so maybe we are inadvertently leaving some sort of alpha blend mode on after drawing the menus which is messing up the sky which is the first thing drawn in the next frame??? Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Scenery Palm Tree
Hi Roberto, I have added these to cvs. They won't immediately be included in the scenery, but they are now available in the 3d model library for scenery designers to use. Thanks, Curt. On 5/29/07, Roberto Inzerillo wrote: I'm done with those palm trees. There are three available now; enough to get some variation inside the scenery when needed. In case someone needs them, simply point the browser to: http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palms_screenshot.jpg http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palm_01.zip http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palm_02.zip http://www.laubfrosch.it/fgfs/3d/palm_03.zip Roberto - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] A new GPL model is coming = Transport twin boomaircraft Nord 2502
On Tue 29 May 2007 15:55, Berndt, Jon S wrote: Hello , A transport aircraft model is under construction, by the next days a first alpha version will be available. That aircraft is the Nord 2502 here is the link on Wikipedia which gives a descriptions of the real ones french http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_2501 english http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Noratlas and snapshots of the model http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic3.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Noratlas-FG-pic4.jpg Regards -- Gérard Very nice. Jon Thanks, Jon And may be an historic precision is necessary the snapshot with parachuter was for the fun, because 2502 which is a mixted propulsion , piston engine and turbojets was only in use for civilian transports. Only the 2501 without turbojets was used for military transports. Who can more can less , so, from that 2502 i will be able to offer a 2501 for the same price :) Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch: don't warn if a sound is clipped, was Re: For the - Author of Concorde - Continued (Email in Unicode format)
On 5/29/07, Erik Hofman wrote: Maik Justus wrote: Hi, the enclosed patch would do the thing (but maybe SG_DEBUG would be better, it's really only a debug message, the user need not to be warned about this). Indeed and that's what the warning is for; the author should fix the sound configuration file. Hi Maik, I do see your point, these scrolling warnings slow down FlightGear and are annoying. But I'm more with Erik on this one. These warnings indicate there is a serious problem in how the author configured the sound effects for their model and they are not getting the audio output that they expected. Ideally the aircraft author would fix the sound effects configuration so the results are in the allowable range. Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch: don't warn if a soun d is clipped,was Re: For the - Author of Conco rde - Continued (Email inUnicode format)
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 10:22, Erik Hofman wrote: Indeed and that's what the warning is for; the author should fix the sound configuration file. I added beeping from the KAP140 and I see that that sound gets clipped. Here's a diff for the C172p sound configuration file. Please apply. -- Roy Vegard Ovesen Index: c172-sound.xml === RCS file: /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/data/Aircraft/c172p/c172-sound.xml,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -p -u -r1.2 c172-sound.xml --- c172-sound.xml 26 Apr 2007 18:04:55 - 1.2 +++ c172-sound.xml 29 May 2007 15:21:00 - @@ -241,11 +241,8 @@ condition property/autopilot/KAP140/annunciators/beep/state/property /condition - volume -offset0.5/offset - /volume /kap140beep /fx - + /PropertyList - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] patch: don't warn if a sound is clipped, was Re: For the - Author of Concorde - Continued (Email inUnicode format)
On 5/29/07, Roy Vegard Ovesen wrote: On Tuesday 29 May 2007 10:22, Erik Hofman wrote: Indeed and that's what the warning is for; the author should fix the sound configuration file. I added beeping from the KAP140 and I see that that sound gets clipped. Here's a diff for the C172p sound configuration file. Please apply. Ok, thanks, every little bit helps. Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RL Flexwing Microlight General Skills
From: Stuart Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Flightgear-devel] OT: RL Flexwing Microlight General Skills Test(aka checkride) To: FlightGear Dev flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Hi All, In the tradition of mentioning milestones on the way to a pilot's license, I thought I'd mention that I passed my final test for my microlight license on Saturday - the General Skills Test. I think this is the equivalent of the U.S. check-ride - an examination of your flying skills you have to pass before you can get your license. Since going solo at the beginning of March, I had been very lucky with the weather and managed to get lots of flying in - up to 5 hours per week. Having my own aircraft helped a lot, as I could do some solo flight anytime, as long as an instructor was at the airfield. As well as lots of circuit training, I also had to complete two solo cross-countries, which I did on two consecutive days. Both flights were to small private grass strips which really brought home the advantage of flying a microlight. I can land and take-off on a 300m strip no problem, and less than smooth surfaces are merely inconvenient rather than out-right dangerous. While I'm certain that GA aircraft can and do use such strips I think the required skill level is much higher. So, by early May I was just about ready for my test. The airstrip I fly from is quite small, and while some GA aircraft visit, in general it is microlight only. In contrast, my test took place at Perth airport, a much larger airport with much more GA traffic and requiring radio. To add to the challenge, I was to take it in a much larger microlight (if that isn't a contradiction in terms) that I hadn't flown before. Unfortunately, the good weather I had enjoyed didn't last. My original test date was cancelled due to the weather, and when I finally I came to do my test I had only had one revision lesson - two weeks before! The examiner (also an instructor) took me up for a 30 minute familiarization flight, to get used to the aircraft, airport and get rid of some of my nerves. This was great and really helped my calm down and treat the following flight like any other. We then had a break while he examined my friend (who also passed) and before long I was once again strapping in and going through the pre-startup checks. My normal instructor is quite talkative, so there was quite a contrast with the examiner who naturally is not going to be leading you by the hand through the various maneuvers. Conditions were quite thermally - at one point we were keeping a constant altitude with the engine at idle - which meant that judging level flight was quite challenging. This at least meant the some of my minor altitude deviations were lost in the general noise. The upper airwork went pretty well, steep turns, unusuall attitudes, emergency landings. The only tricky part was a stall, as this particular model simply wouldn't do so without some fairly high nose-up pitch. At one point I had the bar right up against the front strut and all that was happening was we were slowly descending - not even a mush. However, this was a known trait of this particular model (my own aircraft stalls more easily), and once I got the nose up high enough, down it went and I recovered no problem. Airwork completel, I was given instructions to head back to the airport. What airport? I couldn't see it anywhere. The examiner realized almost immediately that I hadn't found it and queried if I knew where I was going. Declaring oneself lost is an immediate failure, so I said I knew where it was, but hadn't spotted it yet... I double-checked the map, and spent a very anxious 5 minutes heading (hopefully) towards it, before finally spotting it. As is often the case, I was looking in the right direction, but not the right distance - it was further away than I expected, due to the tailwind we had and the higher airspeed of the aircraft (65mph vs 48mph). Once back in the circuit, we had some fun and games with engine failures all over the place, all of which went smoothly, culminating in an immediate engine failure takeoff which I put back on the runway with plenty of room to spare. As we taxied back to the hangar those wonderful words - Your flying good - I'm going to pass you. I still have 25 minutes of flying to do to meet the minimum requirements before I can send away for my license, but for the first time I'll be flying without an objective in mind, or some specific airwork to practise. I think I'll take a flight along the coast and look at the Bass Rock and Tantallon Casle. Both modeled in the global scenery database BTW - take off from Edinburgh Airport (EGPH) or East Fortune (EG32) and head East along the coast. For those who might be interested in getting their microlight
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs]
gh.robin wrote: May be Martin could include it in the FG osg cvs. Others have CVS write access to the source code. I don't - and I don't want to, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 Stopwatch nasal error
For FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 I get this error opening the stopwatch but not using using and closing it. Open stopwatch but don't use it just close it. I hope this helps with the upcoming release. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fgfs Model Author: Unknown Creation Date: 2002-01-01 Version: $Id: c172p.xml,v 1.18 2007-01-15 12:50:45 ehofman Exp $ Description: Cessna C-172 Initializing Nasal Electrical System power up Nasal runtime error: props.setDoubleValue() with non-number at /home/nate/data/Nasal/props.nas, line 26 called from: __dlg:stopwatch-dialog, line 2 - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs]
On Tue 29 May 2007 18:52, Martin Spott wrote: gh.robin wrote: May be Martin could include it in the FG osg cvs. Others have CVS write access to the source code. I don't - and I don't want to, Martin. Oh sorry Martin, i did no know, but like we can say 'We loan only to rich persons :) this a translation from French , i hope it can be understood in English Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Groundspeed and MP radar
Hi all , I would like to add a groundspeed property to the autopilot route manager ... the calculations are already done in the source code , I would just like to output that to a property for the Primus 1000 FMS mode.GPS has an indicated -groundspeed , but I would prefer to use the route-manager for this ... any objections /suggestions ? Im also trying to do a 2d radar panel , using the radar x-shift and y-shift , which of coarse need scaling ... can scaling use a property ? Ive had no luck so far... syd sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Fresh A-6 Intruder snapshot with Terrain Clearance Radar
hi all, I just uploaded a tarball of the current A-6 developpement: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/A-6A/A-6E.20070529.tgz The Terrain Clearance Radar is a brand new feature in FGFS. Actually setting a range 1.5 mile makes FGFS crash when using OSG, but the feature is usable and interesting anyway. I have to think about some details before asking to commit this snap shoot. At the beginning I planned to model an A6-E and now I discover that I'm modeling an A-6A (if we take in account which features were available in each type of A-6). Please read README.news, there are, at its beginning, a few words about the radar display controls. Cheers, Alexis - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Groundspeed and MP radar
syd sandy a e'crit : Hi all , I would like to add a groundspeed property to the autopilot route manager ... the calculations are already done in the source code , I would just like to output that to a property for the Primus 1000 FMS mode.GPS has an indicated -groundspeed , but I would prefer to use the route-manager for this ... any objections /suggestions ? Why not in /velocities ? (I used a Nasal to get a ground speed, I'll be happy to get ride of it :) Alexis - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] A-6 Terrain Clearance Radar
Useful : a page of the pilots manual explainig how works this particular mode: http://croo.murgl.org/fgfs/A-6A/img/tc.jpg - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Groundspeed and MP radar
On Tue, 29 May 2007 22:49:44 +0200 alexis bory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: syd sandy a e'crit : Hi all , I would like to add a groundspeed property to the autopilot route manager ... the calculations are already done in the source code , I would just like to output that to a property for the Primus 1000 FMS mode.GPS has an indicated -groundspeed , but I would prefer to use the route-manager for this ... any objections /suggestions ? Why not in /velocities ? (I used a Nasal to get a ground speed, I'll be happy to get ride of it :) Alexis Well , Ive thought of that too .researching these things leads me to believe that in real life (I could be wrong),groundspeed is calculated using a nav signal as a reference point , so it is only accurate if you are flying directly toward that point... But a /velocities/groundspeed could be used as a starting point ... -- syd sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Groundspeed and MP radar
On 05/29/2007 08:06 PM, syd sandy wrote: Well , Ive thought of that too .researching these things leads me to believe that in real life (I could be wrong),groundspeed is calculated using a nav signal as a reference point That's not right. Groundspeed is groundspeed. There's only one proper definition of groundspeed. An _approximation_ to groundspeed in terms of the rate of slant range made good to/from a navaid is sometimes encountered, for example in a _DME_ unit. This is considered a nonideality of the DME system, not a redefinition of groundspeed. This nonideality is never AFAIK exhibited by GPS or RADAR units. Every GPS and every RADAR I've ever seen or heard of, when asked to report groundspeed, reports honest-to-goodness groundspeed, independent of any route, independent of the relationship between the ground track and this-or-that navaid. , so it is only accurate if you are flying directly toward that point... But a /velocities/groundspeed could be used as a starting point ... It takes only a couple of lines of nasal to calculate the groundspeed in terms of the already-available properties. Hint: Aircraft/A-10/Nasal/aar.nas line 261 ... so I don't understand what the discussion is about. The Subject: line refers to groundspeed. If you want to ask about something else, perhaps about ETE or ETA at this-or-that station, then the answer might become route-dependent. (Different questions have different answers!) So: If there's a problem here that needs solving, please describe the problem more fully. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Groundspeed and MP radar
On Tue, 29 May 2007 21:36:55 -0400 John Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05/29/2007 08:06 PM, syd sandy wrote: Well , Ive thought of that too .researching these things leads me to believe that in real life (I could be wrong),groundspeed is calculated using a nav signal as a reference point That's not right. Groundspeed is groundspeed. There's only one proper definition of groundspeed. did you miss the (I could be wrong )?;) An _approximation_ to groundspeed in terms of the rate of slant range made good to/from a navaid is sometimes encountered, for example in a _DME_ unit. This is considered a nonideality of the DME system, not a redefinition of groundspeed. This nonideality is never AFAIK exhibited by GPS or RADAR units. Every GPS and every RADAR I've ever seen or heard of, when asked to report groundspeed, reports honest-to-goodness groundspeed, independent of any route, independent of the relationship between the ground track and this-or-that navaid. , so it is only accurate if you are flying directly toward that point... But a /velocities/groundspeed could be used as a starting point ... It takes only a couple of lines of nasal to calculate the groundspeed in terms of the already-available properties. Hint: Aircraft/A-10/Nasal/aar.nas line 261 ... so I don't understand what the discussion is about. Well I wasnt trying to start a war here ,simply trying to get my Primus 1000 system updated, but groundspeed is calculated in the source code , and since its been requested before , I thought it might be a good idea to show it in the property tree... I just dont see a reason for redoing everything in nasal that's already done in the source code The Subject: line refers to groundspeed. If you want to ask about something else, perhaps about ETE or ETA at this-or-that station, then the answer might become route-dependent. (Different questions have different answers!) So: If there's a problem here that needs solving, please describe the problem more fully. Like I said , it wasn't really a problem, it was a suggestion The only problem I see is the ai radar x-shift and y-shift that should REALLY be normalized to the radar range :) Have a nice day ... Cheers, Syd - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- syd sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
