Re: [Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
On Saturday 19 August 2006 20:28, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Mathias Fröhlich a écrit : - support me with switching to osg, they already have that including much more ... How could we do that ? Can you share what you already done ? I am out until at least next sunday evening. Past that more about that. Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
On Saturday 19 August 2006 17:02, Christopher HORLER wrote: No, he is not wrong. You should not look into the server extensions nor into the client extensions. The only valid thing is (well, I had to learn that the hard way :) GLX extensions that is in effect what the client *and* the server understands. Here you don't have what you need for rendertexture. I suffer from the same problem. Apologies Not a problem! Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
On Saturday 19 August 2006 00:19, Jocelyn Couetdic wrote: I did some quick and dirty debugging in the RenderTexture class (using the TestRenderTexture program), and find out, that the reason it doesn't work, is that neither GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, or GLX_SGIX_pbuffer extensions are supported by the ATI GLX implementation : You're wrong (last entry below) fglrxinfo -x cut for clarity glx server extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
On Saturday 19 August 2006 16:27, Christopher HORLER wrote: On Saturday 19 August 2006 00:19, Jocelyn Couetdic wrote: I did some quick and dirty debugging in the RenderTexture class (using the TestRenderTexture program), and find out, that the reason it doesn't work, is that neither GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, or GLX_SGIX_pbuffer extensions are supported by the ATI GLX implementation : You're wrong (last entry below) fglrxinfo -x cut for clarity glx server extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig No, he is not wrong. You should not look into the server extensions nor into the client extensions. The only valid thing is (well, I had to learn that the hard way :) GLX extensions that is in effect what the client *and* the server understands. Here you don't have what you need for rendertexture. I suffer from the same problem. And I can see two ways to go: Either - implement FBO's in rendertexture, or - support me with switching to osg, they already have that including much more ... Greetings Mathias - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
On Saturday 19 August 2006 00:19, Jocelyn Couetdic wrote: - Or should the 3d clouds code be written to use the FramebufferObject, which seems to be (from what I could gather on the net) a replacement for older off-screen rendering and Rendering To Texture using pbuffers extensions. BTW, this GL_EXT_framebuffer_object is supported by the ATI drivers. Probably - if it's found to be well supported. My understanding was that it was an attempt at harmonisation of all the existing Pbuffer type objects. However, it doesn't appear to be an ARB extension yet. Regards, Chris - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
Hi, I hope I'm posting to the right ml. I tried to find out what was wrong with ATI cards, and the 3d clouds code. For information, my system is a laptop with an ATI Mobility X700 graphics card. I run a debian testing, with a 2.6.16 home build kernel, and I use the ATI proprietary driver (fglrx) version 8.27.10. I also have a winXP, with which 3d clouds work well. I use flightgear 0.9.10 I did some quick and dirty debugging in the RenderTexture class (using the TestRenderTexture program), and find out, that the reason it doesn't work, is that neither GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, or GLX_SGIX_pbuffer extensions are supported by the ATI GLX implementation : $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig client glx vendor string: ATI client glx version string: 1.3 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_multisample OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10) OpenGL extensions: [snip] This causes the initialize method of a RenderTexture object to fail quite early on (in _VerifyExtensions()). As a result, the bbcache code returns this during init : bbcache:Initialize failed, RTT not available for 3D clouds So here are a few questions : - I am totally off ? (I have absolutely no background in OpenGl whatsoever). Is there somebody using those ATI driver, who can confirm that those two extensions are not there ? (and that it's not some @#!% driver installation bug on my system) - If this is indeed the problem, should someone file a ticket to ATI to ask for support of those extensions in coming releases of the drivers ? - Or should the 3d clouds code be written to use the FramebufferObject, which seems to be (from what I could gather on the net) a replacement for older off-screen rendering and Rendering To Texture using pbuffers extensions. BTW, this GL_EXT_framebuffer_object is supported by the ATI drivers. Regards, -- Jocelyn Couetdic [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
