Re: FLUXLIST: toronto panel
Hi Joshua, i have decided to seriously study and reperform some classic fluxus and dada pieces starting this year. anyone wishing to help me do so is invited to email me scores or good sources. i already have 'fluxus reader' and 'ubi fluxus', Go to http://www.nutscape.com/fluxus/homepage/ Click on the link for The Fluxus Performance Workbook. There you will find scores for Fluxus Performances by most Fluxus artists. Classic scores sit alongside lesser known works. I also recommend Dick Higgins' book " foewombwhnw" (contains the Danger Music scores and other good pieces), although now long out of print used copies are available from Barnes and Noble at http://www.bn.com just do an author search for Dick Higgins then click on the link to the out of print section. When I just looked they had 4 copies although the price varies depending on the condition of the book. If you want more sources just ask but this should give you a good start. well, i just went to the most depressing art event ever. it was a supposed panel on fluxus to promote the 'playing with matches' exhibit of al hansen and rock star grandson beck hansen I read the 'playing with matches' book last year and I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. I think it's a shame if this panel did not do justice to the exhibit. Could you please say a little more about what the panel said, issues raised etc. as I would be interested to know what exactly it was that you found disappointing, also who was on the panel? Thanks. cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: Heiko's museum event
Thank you Marc for this great description of your performance. cheers, Sol.
FLUXLIST: MP3 project (was MP3)
Eryk wrote: Yes, but certainly there are several collaborations that can go out without real time. And there is a general midi-based network thingamabob that lets you jam in real time, though you are stuck to general midi which is limiting and not very fun after a while This is closer to what I was thinking about. Although I see no need for real time. I envisioned using midi (.mid) files in an "add and pass" manner (somewhat akin to a mail-art collage or collaborative artist's book but with sound). For example each of us could choose an instrument so if there were 3 people we could have a drummer, a bassist and a pianist( we need to define who plays what in order to create a proper band structure although people could play different instruments on different tunes)The drummer could begin everything by laying down a drum track (using general midi sounds on channel 10) in a suitable sequencer then saving that drum track as a .mid file and e-mailing it to the bassist who opens the file in his or her sequencer and adds the baseline then saves the new .mid file (drums and bass) and e-mails it to the pianist etc. etc. You could build everything from a whole orchestra to a garage band in this way. Sticking to the general midi standard would mean that it would sound the same on everyone's computers( okay those with FM soundcards may not hear such good things as those with wavetable cards but they could still enjoy the rhythms and melodies and add something). Sequencers like evolution audio will even run on a 386sx so really anyone with a 386 and above and access to e-mail could take part. Midi files are very small so are easy to send as attachments also. Once the file has been passed round and finished the result could be rendered as a wav file(with high-quality synthesis) and written to CD ( I have facilities to do this and I guess others of you do too) also the wav could be converted to MP3 and put on MP3.com To me this seems an interesting way to form a band/orchestra. Also it'll be impossible for any one person to know what the whole thing will sound like until it's finished. Granted using midi means no vocals but that's probably not a bad thing anyway. So is anyone interested in doing this. Working like this will mean that each person can record their part again and again until they're happy with it and you won't feel nervous about playing in front of people either. For those who've never used sequencers it's pretty easy, if you don't have a midi keyboard you can add a track just using the mouse or some packages allow you to "play" your computer keyboard. I would suggest that initially we could make a 4-track EP or something. I would be happy to produce the whole thing on CD and send copies to all the participants. cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V2 #482
It sounds like Haider is a sort of Jesse Ventura type, with more unfortunate predilections. Jesse not being a bigot, but rather a rowdy. Maybe, I dont know Ventura. Haider isnt anyhow brutal looking or so. I think he is a typical right wing liberal (in the sense of chicago economists, who supported Pinochet), but also acceptable for lower income groups, sport, sport, sport, a little bit like those guys from Miami Vice. And being against "art" is rather popular. A lot of the protests, the famous, VERY bad reaction of the 14 Eu countries, was organised by the social democratic president of the republic Austria, well, its not comparable to the american system, the head of state isnt head of the governement. He travelled a lot... Heiko Jesse remarked that if the state funds arts, it should also fund stock car racing. I say sure, as long as artists are doing the driving. Or as long as the drivers are doing it gratuitously. AK
FLUXLIST: Austria/Visit the Krematorium
Visit the Krematorium. _ This is the completion of the project I just submitted to Ars Electronica; a raw piece, but somewhat informative. Also emailed invite to 4 Austrian newspapers and a Vienna TV station. http://www.c3.hu/~itmiklos/site/aa2.html + +just dust and ashes + As a reply to Patrick Maun; Yes essentially you're correct on the surface, but didn't Hitler get in as a minority government; there are many people who have forgotten the lessons of the past and some wish to repeat them Miklos Legrady 1086.5 Queen st. w. Toronto, Ont. M6J 1H8 (416) 516-6127 __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.myna.com/~design/ Kapy Utca 1B Budapest 1025 Hungary 011-36-1-176-4698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.c3.hu/~itmiklos/
Re: FLUXLIST: snow
No, sherry, that doesn't bore me at all. Look forward to the photos. Try Sol Nte SHERRY wrote: reporting on recent happening: So sunday afriend and I put on rock star bikini thingsand hiked ourway on afrozen lake on to an islandin the middle of ourcollegecampusand rockedout usingairguitars. It was a bitcold butworth the funny glances.We filmed and took photos. Thepicture perfectbackgroundlooks like a fake phto drop behindus. nice stuff. nce thephotoscomebackI'll post themsomewhere. sherry * *** *** ***http://absurd.poc.net *** *** revolting society since 1999 *** ??? * * ??? $ !*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*?*?*?*!*!*!*! *
Re: FLUXLIST: MP3 project (was MP3)
But I dont understand, why you suggest putting things onto mp3.com. Why support such "portals" ? "Label fetishism" ? ;-) Mp3.com is great! I don't think anyone really pays attention to the portal part... :D It's much better than throwing your mp3's on a server and expecting people to visit it.. ( you'll have to do a lot of shameless advertising / plugging ). There's something like a community there too.. artists trade feedback and link to each other, remix each other.. really neat. It's just a very good, free, well done service.. you should take a look at what they offer for artists, next time you're there. - Official mp3.com spokesman of fluxlist
Re: FLUXLIST: MP3 project (was MP3)
Hi, On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Sol Nte wrote: Things like that are allready done or tried on a "professionel" level. I'm not interested in professional levels or if it's been done before. I We are testing media ;-)
Re: FLUXLIST: MP3 project (was MP3)
I would definitely like to take part in something like this, if it ends up taking place. I'm pretty sure my keyboard has midi capabilities, i may need to buy a cable or something, but basically "i'm in". I could also help make CDs and distribute it to local independant record stores. - nick On 9 Feb 00, at 10:52, Sol Nte wrote: Eryk wrote: Yes, but certainly there are several collaborations that can go out without real time. And there is a general midi-based network thingamabob that lets you jam in real time, though you are stuck to general midi which is limiting and not very fun after a while This is closer to what I was thinking about. Although I see no need for real time. I envisioned using midi (.mid) files in an "add and pass" manner (somewhat akin to a mail-art collage or collaborative artist's book but with sound). For example each of us could choose an instrument so if there were 3 people we could have a drummer, a bassist and a pianist( we need to define who plays what in order to create a proper band structure although people could play different instruments on different tunes)The drummer could begin everything by laying down a drum track (using general midi sounds on channel 10) in a suitable sequencer then saving that drum track as a .mid file and e-mailing it to the bassist who opens the file in his or her sequencer and adds the baseline then saves the new .mid file (drums and bass) and e-mails it to the pianist etc. etc. You could build everything from a whole orchestra to a garage band in this way. Sticking to the general midi standard would mean that it would sound the same on everyone's computers( okay those with FM soundcards may not hear such good things as those with wavetable cards but they could still enjoy the rhythms and melodies and add something). Sequencers like evolution audio will even run on a 386sx so really anyone with a 386 and above and access to e-mail could take part. Midi files are very small so are easy to send as attachments also. Once the file has been passed round and finished the result could be rendered as a wav file(with high-quality synthesis) and written to CD ( I have facilities to do this and I guess others of you do too) also the wav could be converted to MP3 and put on MP3.com To me this seems an interesting way to form a band/orchestra. Also it'll be impossible for any one person to know what the whole thing will sound like until it's finished. Granted using midi means no vocals but that's probably not a bad thing anyway. So is anyone interested in doing this. Working like this will mean that each person can record their part again and again until they're happy with it and you won't feel nervous about playing in front of people either. For those who've never used sequencers it's pretty easy, if you don't have a midi keyboard you can add a track just using the mouse or some packages allow you to "play" your computer keyboard. I would suggest that initially we could make a 4-track EP or something. I would be happy to produce the whole thing on CD and send copies to all the participants. cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: toronto panel
toronto does not offer much to a fluxus fan Toronto has everything a fluxus fan needs: bright cold winters hot steamy summers sad autumns and soggy springs here you can look up and see the world is large beautiful
FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V2 #488
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 04:02:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Porges, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jana, No desire to salt anyone's wounds, here, and Haider is an unfortunately familiar political type (in U$A we have many like him: the last governor of california, the current mayor of new york, USW), but "ethnic cleansing" is a Czech invention. If we "are" our national histories, then we are all victims and we are also swine. Czechs, too. If you deny your own (fairly recent) history, then you play right into the hands of people like Haider. Tim how can you say "ethnic cleansing" is a Czech invention? what do you mean? who did we "cleanse out"? jana ___ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freeworld.excite.com
Re: FLUXLIST: MP3 project (was MP3)
Well Sol, Im intrested in this concept, but I have never used midi before...is there any progs you suggest? From: "Sol Nte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: MP3 project (was MP3) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 10:52:09 - Eryk wrote: Yes, but certainly there are several collaborations that can go out without real time. And there is a general midi-based network thingamabob that lets you jam in real time, though you are stuck to general midi which is limiting and not very fun after a while This is closer to what I was thinking about. Although I see no need for real time. I envisioned using midi (.mid) files in an "add and pass" manner (somewhat akin to a mail-art collage or collaborative artist's book but with sound). For example each of us could choose an instrument so if there were 3 people we could have a drummer, a bassist and a pianist( we need to define who plays what in order to create a proper band structure although people could play different instruments on different tunes)The drummer could begin everything by laying down a drum track (using general midi sounds on channel 10) in a suitable sequencer then saving that drum track as a .mid file and e-mailing it to the bassist who opens the file in his or her sequencer and adds the baseline then saves the new .mid file (drums and bass) and e-mails it to the pianist etc. etc. You could build everything from a whole orchestra to a garage band in this way. Sticking to the general midi standard would mean that it would sound the same on everyone's computers( okay those with FM soundcards may not hear such good things as those with wavetable cards but they could still enjoy the rhythms and melodies and add something). Sequencers like evolution audio will even run on a 386sx so really anyone with a 386 and above and access to e-mail could take part. Midi files are very small so are easy to send as attachments also. Once the file has been passed round and finished the result could be rendered as a wav file(with high-quality synthesis) and written to CD ( I have facilities to do this and I guess others of you do too) also the wav could be converted to MP3 and put on MP3.com To me this seems an interesting way to form a band/orchestra. Also it'll be impossible for any one person to know what the whole thing will sound like until it's finished. Granted using midi means no vocals but that's probably not a bad thing anyway. So is anyone interested in doing this. Working like this will mean that each person can record their part again and again until they're happy with it and you won't feel nervous about playing in front of people either. For those who've never used sequencers it's pretty easy, if you don't have a midi keyboard you can add a track just using the mouse or some packages allow you to "play" your computer keyboard. I would suggest that initially we could make a 4-track EP or something. I would be happy to produce the whole thing on CD and send copies to all the participants. cheers, Sol. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
