Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-08 Thread Ann Klefstad
On 1/8/03 12:10 AM, Crispin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The more i think about this project the more i feel
 like it has to have a container decided upon we should
 take a vote. We need a list of all ideas for container
 and their accessability. LOWEST COST, HIGHEST
 DURABILITY my ideas so far
 Candy tins 50 or more free but small
 Cigar boxes 1$ per box
 VIDEO tape boxes cheep
 REEL CANS more expensive limited quanity on my end
 I heard PAINT CAN , globe, cd case,
 thats all i think
 How big do we want this box to be.
 LETS DO THIS THING
 
 IF it seems liike too much we could always just start
 by setting a number for the edition 5O LIKE THE last
 one. SO we could all make 5o of something and send it
 to CRISPIN WEBB 
  4 west chestnut 
 apt # 5 mount vernon
 ohio 43050
 
 just keep it small to or whatever
 Send your adress and name
 5 $ for shipping
 and this could be well on its way within a short time
 We could set a deadline for entry for feb  8th one
 month from now 
 
 I will take care of the assembly and shipping
 I have access to santas little elves, ten artists
 living in a small apartment building.
 very flux-like.
 crispin
 
 
 
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I like cigar box or film reel can. I don't mind ponying a few bucks.

For another project, perhaps a parallel one, called maybe Tiny Flux, we
could each make a tiny thing to fit into altoid box.

AK




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-08 Thread Matt Benson
here here.
cigar boxes sound fun. though the mexican tomatillo box was my
favorite. paint cans/altoids/film canisters/etc are too synthetic and
cold for my taste.
in case anyone cared...

I vote for the cigar box at $1, light, big enough, well-constructed.
I will 
also be helping on the project, as Crispin forgot to mention. Ha!
-Don




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-08 Thread Carol Starr
i like the cigar box too.
bests, carol

Don Boyd wrote:

 I vote for the cigar box at $1, light, big enough, well-constructed. I will
 also be helping on the project, as Crispin forgot to mention. Ha! -Don





Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-08 Thread Melissa McCarthy
Crispin, I like the idea of either the plastic zip-loc storage bags, which 
someone suggested, or cigar boxes -- with those, people could conceivably 
send their submissions in a box, which you would refill with a complete 
collaborative and send back -- or send to someone else, with each 
participant getting a different box back. We'd have to set minimum 
dimensions (lxwxd) so that nothing was too big. The only problem w/ that 
would be creating additional boxes, but it's not an insurmountable problem 
-- I could contribute a couple of extra cigar boxes

Meanwhile I'd be happy to work a trade with you for a tin -- can I interest 
you in a slug tag and other assorted things?

Melissa
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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-07 Thread Crispin Webb
The more i think about this project the more i feel
like it has to have a container decided upon we should
take a vote. We need a list of all ideas for container
and their accessability. LOWEST COST, HIGHEST
DURABILITY my ideas so far
Candy tins 50 or more free but small
Cigar boxes 1$ per box
VIDEO tape boxes cheep 
REEL CANS more expensive limited quanity on my end
I heard PAINT CAN , globe, cd case, 
thats all i think 
How big do we want this box to be. 
LETS DO THIS THING

IF it seems liike too much we could always just start
by setting a number for the edition 5O LIKE THE last
one. SO we could all make 5o of something and send it
to CRISPIN WEBB 
   4 west chestnut 
apt # 5 mount vernon 
ohio 43050

just keep it small to or whatever 
Send your adress and name 
5 $ for shipping
and this could be well on its way within a short time
We could set a deadline for entry for feb  8th one
month from now 
 
I will take care of the assembly and shipping
I have access to santas little elves, ten artists
living in a small apartment building.
very flux-like.
crispin



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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-03 Thread Ann Klefstad
On 1/2/03 3:56 PM, Alex Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 then there's always ziploc freezer bags.
 you can get 50 for about $5, Holds a gallon of art with no spills and you
 can affix a sticker lable to the outside.
 
 in fact it seems rather fluxus to make our second box a plastic bag.
 
 
 
 Alex
 NP: Cat Power - Moon Pix
 
 
 
 
I like the freezer-bag option--Or we could sew sacks, all same dimensions but
different materials--using cecil's variability and Alex's sacks. Variable sack
boxes. Sackbuts. 

AK




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2

2003-01-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The results of the first box can be found here: 
http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/boxfram.html

I think each person made 50 editions of a work and contributed $5 to cover postage 
and materials (the box). Everyone got 1 box with one of each submission. I do not 
remember what happened to the leftover boxes (if there were any).

Josh has got it right - there were 50 copies made (although we only ended up with 47 
full boxes since some contributions were not a full 50) with each participant 
contributing fifty copies of their contribution, Sol designed the label based on the
online discussion of that to call the project (all the possible names are on the 
label),  I got the boxes and assembled them wit the works and mailed out one to each 
contributor. The remaining boxes were sent to some public collections (archives
like the Tate, the poetry collection in Buffalo, MOMA Library) and a few of the 
remaining were given out to requests (like Princess Petal). And I then made the web 
site as a way of archiving/indexing the contributions for the box as well as sharing
it with those that were not able to participate.

I am willing to organize again, although I am also more than willing to pass the 
mantel on if someone else wants to take on the role of organizer for the project, Josh?

Owen




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread cecil touchon
what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
cecil

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Cecil Touchon: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Josh Ronsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2


 Owen writes:

 I am willing to organize again, although I am also more
 than willing to pass the mantel on if someone else wants
 to take on the role of organizer for the project, Josh?

 From my point of view, the first Box went so well that I think you SHOULD
do it. However, I am willing to do it. So far after a day or so, 16 people
have expressed interest in the project.

 If we go ahead with this, the box must be chosen. Any ideas? My wife
suggests I go to The Container Store (yes, the U.S. has a chain of stores
that specializes in stuff to put other stuff in...) and see if anything
looks promising. I will also see what we have laying around the junk closets
at school. There are some interesting boxes here, but not enough for this
project.

 I think a CDR would be a great inclusion.

 -Josh Ronsen
 in Austin, Texas






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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
cecil


Sounds like a very interesting idea Cecil - what are the options and costs of such a 
venture?? - Maybe it does not even have to be custom, might there be some wooden boxes 
made for some other use that we can creatively reuse? Fluxlist in tomatillo
crates, i like it. . . .

Owen




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread mIEKAL aND
what about we all find a pile of boxes which exceed certain minimum 
dimensions?  no 2 alike.

On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 04:28  PM, cecil touchon wrote:

what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
cecil





Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread cecil touchon
That could be a cool idea... how about we each come up with a box, put our
contribution if 50 or whatever number works into it, ship it and then the
central clearing house shuffles up the boxes so that no one gets the one
they sent? I hope that makes sense.
cecil

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From: mIEKAL aND [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2


 what about we all find a pile of boxes which exceed certain minimum
 dimensions?  no 2 alike.

 On Thursday, January 2, 2003, at 04:28  PM, cecil touchon wrote:

  what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
  cecil







Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread Owen Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That could be a cool idea... how about we each come up with a box, put our
contribution if 50 or whatever number works into it, ship it and then the
central clearing house shuffles up the boxes so that no one gets the one
they sent? I hope that makes sense.
cecil


This makes sense but - we would have to each contribute more that 1 - follow the logic 
- if there were say 25 contributing artists and we wanted to do an edition of 100 then 
each person would have to contribute four boxes, right? We would also need
to set some parameters (min and max size) and design a label that would be flexible 
enough to accommodate the different sizes and types of boxes.

Owen




Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread cecil touchon
good point. or the label could actually be like a card stock weight pamphlet
index of the contents sort of like for a music CD or something like that.
cecil

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From: Owen Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 That could be a cool idea... how about we each come up with a box, put
our
 contribution if 50 or whatever number works into it, ship it and then the
 central clearing house shuffles up the boxes so that no one gets the one
 they sent? I hope that makes sense.
 cecil


 This makes sense but - we would have to each contribute more that 1 -
follow the logic - if there were say 25 contributing artists and we wanted
to do an edition of 100 then each person would have to contribute four
boxes, right? We would also need
 to set some parameters (min and max size) and design a label that would be
flexible enough to accommodate the different sizes and types of boxes.

 Owen






Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread cecil touchon
Fluxlist in tomatillo crates, i like it. . . . yes that's a cool idea too:
agriflux.
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
 cecil


 Sounds like a very interesting idea Cecil - what are the options and costs
of such a venture?? - Maybe it does not even have to be custom, might there
be some wooden boxes made for some other use that we can creatively reuse?
Fluxlist in tomatillo
 crates, i like it. . . .

 Owen






Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread Alex Cook
then there's always ziploc freezer bags.
you can get 50 for about $5, Holds a gallon of art with no spills and you 
can affix a sticker lable to the outside.

in fact it seems rather fluxus to make our second box a plastic bag.



Alex
NP: Cat Power - Moon Pix





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Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:42:19 -0800

Fluxlist in tomatillo crates, i like it. . . . yes that's a cool idea too:
agriflux.
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 what about some wooden boxes custom made down here in mexico?
 cecil


 Sounds like a very interesting idea Cecil - what are the options and 
costs
of such a venture?? - Maybe it does not even have to be custom, might there
be some wooden boxes made for some other use that we can creatively reuse?
Fluxlist in tomatillo
 crates, i like it. . . .

 Owen



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RE: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Box #2

2003-01-02 Thread anne


i'd like to contribute some material for this new box
a timeframe for the project will tell me what i can do!

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