[Framers] Are you seeing my posts

[rick]

Hi All,



Checking this for a member of the list.



Rick

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Re: [Framers] Can variables be defined to include characteristics (e.g., BOLD, OVERLINE, ITALIC)?

[rick]

Yes, as long as you define the desired formatting as FrameMaker Character
Formats. Then you can refer to them in your variable definitions inside of
angled brackets; for example:

Widget

The  is a shortcut for Default Paragraph Font.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Can variables be defined to include characteristics
(e.g., BOLD, OVERLINE, ITALIC)?

Greetings.
In a FM variable definition, is it possible to include character
characteristics such as bold, overline, italic, etc.?
Thanks in advance...
Barry Meislin
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Re: [Framers] Back on Structured XML - stuck again

[rick]

Hi C2,

There are some fun things here, but I suggest that you post this on the
Adobe Community Forum for FrameMaker (forums.adobe.com, then search for
FrameMaker). There is not much action on this list anymore and I spend most
of my help time on the FrameMaker forum. I have some ideas that I will
respond with. Thanks.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of cuc tu
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 4:52 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Back on Structured XML - stuck again

Hey all - it's been a long while since even using FrameMaker.

Quick Background:

The dev team supplies XML with most of the para content in element
attributes. I have an xsl script that breaks all those attributes as child
elements. I did this because I could not figure out how to get the attribute
values to print to a para format and use prefix/suffix rules.

Now the team is manually inserting line breaks and using /n to indicate a
soft return, but when read into FM, the /n prints and we a block of text. Is
there a way to address this in the xsl or RW rules?

The next question is with variables. A child element will make reference to
element values in another file. For example:

..$[Min]:$[Max]

There is a declaration in the main xml file:



  

(side note: my xsl will convert the above attributes to child elements, and
then my RW rules drop all of those elements for now so they do not add empty
space)

and there is a Variables.xml file:


..
..
..
..


How do I populate $[Min]:$[Max] with 1:4096?


The last item, the  element above uses a prefix "Range:". I can apply
character formatting Bold, but what I really want to do is have "Range:" in
a right-aligned heading RunIn para format and then print the range value as
an indented format. The reason is that I can then have all of the colons
lined up for easier reading as I would many different heading RunIn texts.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks C2
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

[rick]

Hi Simon,

FrameMaker 2019 shipped with 32- and 64-bit versions. I don't know what
version you are using, but the 64-bit version might work.

Since you are using ExtendScript, an alternative approach may be to script
saving each component to XML individually then use XSLT to combine them.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Simon BUCH
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 7:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019 and the limit of Windows 10?

Hello Framers,

I have been investigating a problem reported by one of my customers.
They have 1 book file containing 1554 FrameMaker documents, plus 2
FrameMaker generated documents.

They have managed to publish their book file to PDF, but when they try
exporting the book to XML, FrameMaker crashes badly.

I have chopped the book up, and it appears that FrameMaker baulks after
processing around 700 files - sometimes with Internal Error, sometimes with
just hanging the app. A large number [>1400] of the FrameMaker documents
contain imported by reference graphics. Even with removing the mount point
of the graphics [so FrameMaker will show a gray box instead], and also with
setting the View > Hide Graphics option on each file,

I tried using ExtendScript to read content from each of the files, but after
approximately 710 files, I received the FrameMaker warning dialog:
Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more windows and
try again.
i.e. Insufficient memory to display the dialog box. Close one or more
windows and try again.

According to Windows 10 [64-bit], the Task Manager indicates memory usage on
the workstation is 3.6Gb out of an available 12.1Gb.

Has anyone here experienced problems when dealing with such large book
files?


/// Simon BUCH

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Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy

[rick]

Hi Tammy,

I am sending you a video link that I think shows the solution. It is a private 
link because I am not sure if the content of your file should be shared. If my 
solution is correct, perhaps you can share it with the list.

Rick

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From: Framers  On 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy

Hi Klaus,

Yes, I understand that. So how do I break the flow and be able to start adding 
new content after the last footnote in the series?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Klaus Daube
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 6:46 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Footnote problem Tamy
> 
> {table footnote, no matter what type of tag I select with point and 
> click, and then press enter to start a new line and start another tag, 
> it s like the hold ofated the table footnote will not go away. It s 
> like FrameMaker won t let me start any new tag after a table footnote. 
> It s stuck thinking everything that follows should be kept with the 
> table footnotes } Please keep in mind that a footnote/table footnote is a 
> flow (terminated by §)!
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Re: [Framers] Batch conversion from Frame 2022 *down* to Frame 2020?

[rick]

Hi Alison,

See my ConvertDocs script at www.frameexpert.com/store.

Rick

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From: Framers  On
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Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 2:05 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Batch conversion from Frame 2022 *down* to Frame 2020?

>From the latest Frame manual I see that you can use the MifWash utility to
batch convert older Frame files to a newer version, but can you do the
opposite?

 

I need to have my remote contractor convert a Frame book from 2022 down to
2020 and I'm trying to find the easiest way to do that. 

 

There are only about 34 files, but that would be a royal pain to do
one-by-one.

 

And no, I can't update to the Frame latest version. We have heavy security
protocols in place so Frame is only updated once every 2 years (2024 is the
next time we'll update across the company).

 

Alison 

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Re: [Framers] HELP: Appendix Numbering Issue on Deadline

[rick]

Hi Alison,

You have to set your numbering at the book component level, not the document
level. Right-click on the components and set the numbering there and then
update the book.

Rick

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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 8:12 PM
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software.' 
Subject: Re: [Framers] HELP: Appendix Numbering Issue on Deadline

That's not what I have in my other books, so no. I didn't try that.

Now that I have tried it, that sets the page number to A, not the heading
number.

But thanks, Alison 



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Sent: November 19, 2023 2:45 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'

Subject: Re: [Framers] HELP: Appendix Numbering Issue on Deadline

Alison - When you select Format > Document > Numbering for Appendix A within
the book, have you selected the Page tab and made sure It says First Page #:
1 and Format ALPHABETIC A?


 

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Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2023 16:56
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] HELP: Appendix Numbering Issue on Deadline

Frame 2020, Version: 16.0.5.1096

Windows 10

I'm having issues with the appendices in a book. No matter what I do, they
keep reverting from Appendix A and Appendix B, to Appendix 8 and Appendix 9.

I've tried configuring Format > Document > Numbering so it matches exactly
with a book where the numbering works perfectly, but when I Update Book, the
appendices revert to numbers.

I have to publish this book tomorrow (Monday, November 20) and I'm tearing
my hair out here.

Any suggestions?

Alison

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Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

[rick]

I am pretty much available this week.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 11:12 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

HI Dan,

Looks like it will be you and I. Rick, when can we set up a 15 minute
meeting to do the hand off and ask any questions that we have?

Thanks!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:16 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> Tammy,
> 
> If there's a need, I'm certainly willing to help out from a list admin 
> perspective, especially if it is a group/team effort. I've been 
> subscribed to the list since 2008 (at least that's as far back as my 
> saved emails from the list go). For background, while I took early 
> retirement from the University of Illinois 2 years ago, I still work 
> for the same department 6 months out of the year as a consultant, and 
> during that 6 months I am using FrameMaker daily, so I too still rely 
> on and check the list regularly (less regularly during my 6 months of
non-employment, but still check the list weekly at a minimum).
> 
> While I typically prune my contact information from list emails, I'm 
> including it below.
> 
> DAN HARDING
> Publications Manager
> Assistant Director, Information Technologies (Retired)
> 
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Tax School Department of 
> Agricultural and Consumer Economics
> 412 Mumford Hall | M/C 710
> 1301 W. Gregory Drive
> Urbana, IL 61801
> 217.333.0935 | fax: 217.244.5933 | dhard...@illinois.edu 
> taxschool.illinois.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written 
> communication to or from university employees regarding university 
> business is a public record and may be subject to public disclosure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+dharding=illinois@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:31 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> OK,
> 
> I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list 
> after this post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough old
bird.
> 
> I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any 
> success. I was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and 
> then since that time (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard 
> as the last that I heard is that he had stepped up to the plate to be 
> the list admin after Carol Elkins and Rick Quatro stepped back.
> 
> Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all 
> emails, I called Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email
response that I received:
> 
> ***
> ***
> ***
> Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password 
> for the list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to 
> Rick Quattro. He's got full admin permissions in the system as well.
> 
> Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin 
> and I have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually 
> had a brief conversation with Rick Quatro a while back and he 
> explicitly stated that he was not the list admin, Bernard was.
> 
> I know that many of us on this list are getting long in the tooth, 
> myself definitely included, but I most certainly can still use the 
> support of the community at times. I intend to keep working for at 
> least the next 2 years, maybe 3 and I simply cannot imagine not having 
> this list as a resource when needed. FM is still the tool of choice 
> for several of my clients for many reasons, and even after all these 
> years, I still need a nudge in the right direction or need to learn 
> something new. I can't imagine that there are not others in the same boat.
> 
> I kinda' feel like we (the list users) have been left hanging and have 
> not been really given the whole scoop. I am more than willing to step 
> to the role of list admin part-time if someone else is willing to 
> co-admin. I don't have the bandwidth for being a sole admin, but being 
> a co-admin would be fine. At this point, the 

Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

[rick]

Hi All,
I am pretty sure I have the login information for the list. To be honest, I
tend to use the Adobe Forums for post and answer FrameMaker questions. I do
like the availability of this list too.
Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 6:20 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?

Thank you I will let this email percolate over the weekend and then
reach out to Bernard and Rick to see how we pass the baton.

I sincerely appreciate your willingness to help out.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf
> Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:16 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> Tammy,
> 
> If there's a need, I'm certainly willing to help out from a list admin 
> perspective, especially if it is a group/team effort. I've been 
> subscribed to the list since 2008 (at least that's as far back as my 
> saved emails from the list go). For background, while I took early 
> retirement from the University of Illinois 2 years ago, I still work 
> for the same department 6 months out of the year as a consultant, and 
> during that 6 months I am using FrameMaker daily, so I too still rely 
> on and check the list regularly (less regularly during my 6 months of
non-employment, but still check the list weekly at a minimum).
> 
> While I typically prune my contact information from list emails, I'm 
> including it below.
> 
> DAN HARDING
> Publications Manager
> Assistant Director, Information Technologies (Retired)
> 
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Tax School Department of 
> Agricultural and Consumer Economics
> 412 Mumford Hall | M/C 710
> 1301 W. Gregory Drive
> Urbana, IL 61801
> 217.333.0935 | fax: 217.244.5933 | dhard...@illinois.edu 
> taxschool.illinois.edu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act any written 
> communication to or from university employees regarding university 
> business is a public record and may be subject to public disclosure.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers  bounces+dharding=illinois@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Tammy
> Van Boening
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 4:31 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Framers list admin?
> 
> OK,
> 
> I am sure that I am gonna' get excoriated by a few folks on this list 
> after this post, but at this point in my life and career, I am tough old
bird.
> 
> I had been trying to post to the list for the last two days w/out any 
> success. I was last able to reply to a post successfully on 8/25 and 
> then since that time (through 9/12), no joy. I reached out to Bernard 
> as the last that I heard is that he had stepped up to the plate to be 
> the list admin after Carol Elkins and Rick Quatro stepped back.
> 
> Eventually, after no response via the link at the bottom of all 
> emails, I called Bernard directly at his business.  Here is the email
response that I received:
> 
> ***
> ***
> ***
> Hello Tammy, thanks for reaching out. I don't even recall my password 
> for the list but might be able to find it. I'd suggest reaching out to 
> Rick Quattro. He's got full admin permissions in the system as well.
> 
> Uh, OK. The absolute >>LAST<< that I knew, Bernard was the list admin 
> and I have never seen a post to the otherwise; moreover, I actually 
> had a brief conversation with Rick Quatro a while back and he 
> explicitly stated that he was not the list admin, Bernard was.
> 
> I know that many of us on this list are getting long in the tooth, 
> myself definitely included, but I most certainly can still use the 
> support of the community at times. I intend to keep working for at 
> least the next 2 years, maybe 3 and I simply cannot imagine not having 
> this list as a resource when needed. FM is still the tool of choice 
> for several of my clients for many reasons, and even after all these 
> years, I still need a nudge in the right direction or need to learn 
> something new. I can't imagine that there are not others in the same boat.
> 
> I kinda' feel like we (the list users) have been left hanging and have 
> not been really given the whole scoop. I am more than willing

[Framers] ANN: A Free Scripts Playlist on my YouTube Channel

[rick]

I added a Free Scripts playlist on my YouTube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRPNZaAC4LoRPnVZcKcNgAeIlb3UhgvvK

As always, comments and suggestions are welcome. Thank you!

Rick

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[Framers] ANN: Free FrameMaker Generated Files Course

[rick]

Hi All,

Take a look at my comprehensive FrameMaker Generated Files videos on
YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRPNZaAC4LoRu8VxIaUK5eV_lqmG80qUj

If the content is helpful, please like and subscribe. Thank you!

Rick

 

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables

[rick]

Hi All,

I found and fixed the problem that Tom was having. Here is a link to the
updated script:

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/CP-TableChangeBars.zip

Rick



-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate)
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 1:34 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables

Hi Rick,

It's probably me but the script isn't working in my Framemaker 2022.
(I had to create the "startup" folder) In fact, when I apply the script the
document becomes 'blank': I know the actions I do are still applied but I
can't see them. Only when I close the document and I get the Do you want to
save-message, I see the document underneath...

Side note: since the start of July we have an activation issue with almost
all older Framemaker versions (Framemaker 2017, 2015,...). Our IT and Adobe
are 'looking into it'. But I can't test your script with older versions
right now.

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation
Services

Mobile:  +32 (0)476 87 44 33

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Sent: vrijdag 25 augustus 2023 22:02
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   3. Re:  A free script for adding changebars to tables
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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:51:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
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Thank you Mike! The issue is the behind the scenes switch to the Adobe PDF
printer driver when the PDF is created. The PDFs are created on a dedicated
computer, so I should be able to solve it by changing the default printer
driver to Adobe PDF.



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Subject: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
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Hi All,

FrameMaker changebars work well in text, but it is difficult to put a
changebar next to an entire table. I have a free scripting solution that
puts a nice changebar along the whole height of a table. Please see my Store
page for a screenshot and download link. As always, feedback is appreciated.

Rick

http://www.frameexpert.com/





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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:37:24 +
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Subject: Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
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I have this script and it's worth every penny!!!

Highly recommend.

TVB

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> Of r...@rickquatro.com
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 6:53 AM
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> Subject: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
>
> Hi All,
>
> FrameMaker changebars work well in text, but it is difficult to put a 
> changebar next to an entire table. I have a free scripting solution 
> that puts a nice changebar along the whole height of a table. Please 
> see my Store page for a screenshot and download link. As always, feedback
is appreciated.
>
> Rick
>
> http://www.f/
> rameexpert.com%2F=05%7C01%7Ctom.derouck%40sgs.com%7Ced5bcfa58b324
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Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables

[rick]

Hi Tom,

The script is failing and leaving you a blank screen. Try this: after you
quit and restart FrameMaker, open your document. Before running the script
choose View > Panels > Console. Run the script and when it fails, it should
write a message to the Console. Please send me the console message and I
will fix the script. Thank you very much for the feedback.

Rick

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate)
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 1:34 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables

Hi Rick,

It's probably me but the script isn't working in my Framemaker 2022.
(I had to create the "startup" folder) In fact, when I apply the script the
document becomes 'blank': I know the actions I do are still applied but I
can't see them. Only when I close the document and I get the Do you want to
save-message, I see the document underneath...

Side note: since the start of July we have an activation issue with almost
all older Framemaker versions (Framemaker 2017, 2015,...). Our IT and Adobe
are 'looking into it'. But I can't test your script with older versions
right now.

Best regards,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industries & Environment
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Services

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:51:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF
Message-ID: <00a301d9d752$d2accb50$780661f0$@rickquatro.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="UTF-8"

Thank you Mike! The issue is the behind the scenes switch to the Adobe PDF
printer driver when the PDF is created. The PDFs are created on a dedicated
computer, so I should be able to solve it by changing the default printer
driver to Adobe PDF.



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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:53:00 -0400
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Subject: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
Message-ID: <00a501d9d753$14bfecc0$3e3fc640$@rickquatro.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

Hi All,

FrameMaker changebars work well in text, but it is difficult to put a
changebar next to an entire table. I have a free scripting solution that
puts a nice changebar along the whole height of a table. Please see my Store
page for a screenshot and download link. As always, feedback is appreciated.

Rick

http://www.frameexpert.com/





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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:37:24 +
From: Tammy Van Boening 
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
Message-ID:
 


Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I have this script and it's worth every penny!!!

Highly recommend.

TVB

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> Of r...@rickquatro.com
> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 6:53 AM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> 
> Subject: [Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables
>
> Hi All,
>
> FrameMaker changebars work well in text, but it is difficult to put a 
> changebar next to an entire table. I have a free scripting solution 
> that puts a nice changebar along the whole height of a table. Please 
> see my Store page for a screenshot and download link. As always, feedback
is appreciated.
>
> Rick
>
> http://www.f/
> rameexpert.com%2F=05%7C01%7Ctom.derouck%40sgs.com%7Ced5bcfa58b324
> edaece108dba5a67e17%7Ce96fa72bc8d6495796bdc7f8dc30c

[Framers] A free script for adding changebars to tables

[rick]

Hi All,

FrameMaker changebars work well in text, but it is difficult to put a
changebar next to an entire table. I have a free scripting solution that
puts a nice changebar along the whole height of a table. Please see my Store
page for a screenshot and download link. As always, feedback is appreciated.

Rick

www.frameexpert.com

 

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Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF

[rick]

Thank you Mike! The issue is the behind the scenes switch to the Adobe PDF 
printer driver when the PDF is created. The PDFs are created on a dedicated 
computer, so I should be able to solve it by changing the default printer 
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[Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF

[rick]

I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the
Console:

 The "Times" Font is not available.
"Times New Roman" will be used in this session.

 It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New
Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show
that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past,
but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that
will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match?

Rick

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[Framers] OT: Screen recording

[rick]

Hi All,

 

What is Adobe's preferred screen recording software? Is it still Captivate?
Is there anything in the Creative Suite designed for this? Thank you.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

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Re: [Framers] Autonumber/autoincrement independent of paragraph style?

[rick]

You can't increment variables with counters. This may be a good candidate
for a script. It's not clear to me the use case for this, but if you contact
me offlist, I will be glad to look at it. Thanks.

Rick


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Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Autonumber/autoincrement independent of paragraph
style?

I would try to tie it to a paragraph style, then make it a run-in paragraph
that doesn't cause a line break. Manually apply it where you want it, press
enter, then apply whatever style you need next.

Fiddly, but should work. Flies in the face of structured documentation, but
your use case seems to be inherently unstructured anyway.

HTH,
David

DCA:d.a.d.



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Date: 7/15/23 12:01 (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [Framers] Autonumber/autoincrement independent of paragraph style?

I'm having a brain fart. Seems like this should be doable, but I'm missing
something.

I need a counter/variable that autoincrements, but NOT tied to a specific
paragraph style. This counter might appear in any number of different
paragraph styles and at different positions in the paragraph.

Variables seem like they should be the way to go, but it appears that there
isn't an auto-increment component to them, e.g.,  like when numbering
paragraphs or list elements.

All online resources I can find discuss autonumbering within the context of
the paragraph designer, but that's not what I need.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

-Dan
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Re: [Framers] MIF File Issue

[rick]

Hi Alison,

I can try opening it here if you can zip and send it to me. Thank you.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] MIF File Issue

Win10, Frame 2020 (V 16.0.5.1096)
Two days I received a load of MIF files for 2 manuals from the translators
(LSP). Every file except one opened perfectly.
The LSP can open the file without a problem. As I can't, I have asked them
to re-create the file from their translation tools, and in the meantime, try
to save the MIF as an FM file and send me a copy.
I've looked at the MIF using MS Notepad and compared the start and end of
the file to one that opens just fine in Frame. I can't see any differences,
but I'm not exactly a MIF expert.
The one really weird thing is that when Frame tries to open the file, a
large screen of text is shown on the right-hand side of the screen (it looks
like maybe it the MIF content) before the file opens with absolutely no
visible content. I have a screenshot of that if anyone wants to answer me
offline.
Alison
acr...@greenlightinnovation.com<mailto:acr...@greenlightinnovation.com>

Alison Craig
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[Framers] OT: Ride for Roswell 2023

[rick]

Hello Framers,

 

I am doing the Ride for Roswell again this year to raise money for cancer
research. I will be riding the 100 mile route again. I ride to honor the
memory of Bruce Foster, creator of the original Archive plugin. I also
celebrate Alexandra Duffy, a cancer survivor from our FrameMaker community.

 

I raise money by giving software in exchange for a donation of $25 or more.
Please take a look at my website and see if there is anything you need. I
also have some scripts that aren't out there so tell me what your
bottlenecks are and I may have something for you.

 

Thank you for your support over the years. The FrameMaker community is the
best!

 

Rick

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Re: [Framers] Frame > XHTML

[rick]

I think XHTML output was added later.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 11:09 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame > XHTML

   Hi Rick,

   The Publish pod is there, but no XHTML output format.

   -j

   On 2023-04-24 4:51 em, [1]r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

Hi Johan,

I can't remember if 2015 had it, but is there a File > Publish command? If
so, see if the Publish pod has an XHTML option.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Frame > XHTML

   Hi guys,

   I'm sitting here and trying to figure out how to export from FrameMaker
   2015 to XHTML and cannot for the life of me work it out. Any pointers?

   Best

   Johan
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Re: [Framers] Frame > XHTML

[rick]

Hi Johan,

I can't remember if 2015 had it, but is there a File > Publish command? If
so, see if the Publish pod has an XHTML option.

Rick

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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2023 10:21 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Frame > XHTML

   Hi guys,

   I'm sitting here and trying to figure out how to export from FrameMaker
   2015 to XHTML and cannot for the life of me work it out. Any pointers?

   Best

   Johan
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Re: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?

[rick]

Post this question to the Adobe Forums for FrameMaker and I will provide a
useful workaround. Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Variable Preferences - custome colurs available?

Hi folks

I am using the new feature for highlighting variables but I would like to
define custom colours because the options provided obscure the content of
the variable. Does anyone know of a way to add custom colours (or reduce the
opacity) to the list?

Sue

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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

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I hadn't noticed until you mentioned it, but the list is pretty quiet. I am
spending more time on Adobe Forums these days.

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... November 1 of 2022.

Am I off the list somehow?

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Re: [Framers] Insert Manual Line Break in a Variable?

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I am not sure this got answered, but you can use \r in a variable to force a
page break.

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Subject: [Framers] Insert Manual Line Break in a Variable?

WIN 10 Enterprise, Frame 2020


Can  you insert a manual line break in a Variable? If so, how?

Example Variable: "Electrolyser (E-Series: E30-E1000)".

I want to control where the Variable breaks to wrap it to the next line
(it's part of a right-aligned title that is too wide for the page).

I looked in the Frame manual, but the term "manual line break" only occurs a
handful of times and none of them are relevant.

Alison


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Re: [Framers] Suppress XML Element Data

[rick]

Hi C2,

If those elements have attributes you can use the Filter By Attribute
command to filter them out before you print or make a PDF. Then they will be
retained in the XML.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Suppress XML Element Data

Hi Framers,

I have some XML elements with text data that I want to suppress or not
print. I discovered that I can use the rw-rules:

element "ClassName" drop;

But I want to retain the data when I save the XML file. I thought I could
make it an index but I could not figure it out. I was getting a message that
text data is not allowed.

That might not be a good approach anyway. I could use conditional text but
had similar issues setting up the EDD.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks, C2
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Save as MIF

[rick]

Thank you Tom. Alison, it is the script called ConvertDocs. See my store for
details. Thank you very much.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Save as MIF

Hi Alison, Rick Quatro (r...@rickquatro.com), a frequent contributor to this
list, has a great convert files script that does this quickly, I use it all
of the time when sending files to translators



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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Save as MIF

Does Frame (subscription version) include a batch method to save all files
in a book to MIF?

 

I couldn't find anything in the manual and none of the included scripts
appear suitable (based on the limited info given by folder names).

 

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[Framers] OT: Ride for Roswell 2022

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Thank you all who contributed to the Ride for Roswell 2022. Over $5.6
million was raised for cancer treatment and research. I finished the 100
miles in 6:35, including 4 rest stops. It was a great ride and a great
event. Lord willing, I will do it again next year!

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Re: [Framers] Utility to batch rename elements?

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Totally agree. FrameSLT is a great tool. Sue, if you need help getting up to 
speed with it, I will gladly provide some no-cost help via a web meeting.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Utility to batch rename elements?

Hi Sue...

Russ Ward’s FrameSLT is what you need. It’s fantastic!

http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_FrameSLT.htm

...scott

Sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos or unexpected brevity. 

> On May 30, 2022, at 1:28 AM, Sue Thomson (Specialist RF) 
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> Hi folks
> 
> I need to tidy up and simplify my structured FM templates. The element names 
> originated from old Word tags and don't conform with the element names which 
> are familiar across the industry.
> 
> I would need to repeat the process for each book as it comes back for 
> updating, so that I capture all of the live books eventually.
> 
> Does anyone know of a tool which would allow me to batch rename elements?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Sue Thomson MISTC
> Senior Technical Author
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Re: [Framers] Klaus, Rick, and Scott rock!

[rick]

Hey Wendy, thank you very much for the acknowledgement! I have been using
FrameMaker for a long time too. I might start a Framers club when I hit the
nursing home.

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Subject: [Framers] Klaus, Rick, and Scott rock!

Hello, Framers,

Just wanted to give a huge thank-you to Klaus Daube. Rick Quatro, and Scott
Prentice for all their sharing of knowledge that makes using FrameMaker a
joy instead of a frustrating experience.

As I noted to the list a few weeks ago, we had been using Frame 7 forever
and were going to have to upgrade to the latest version. I was expecting to
not like it, but it turns out that I really like the new version. In getting
up to speed to see what was new, I had seen Klaus's Compendium that he
mentioned in the Framers list and I started reading it. It's fantastic! It
mentions all the inside information that only years of using Frame could
provide-much better than the official Frame users guide that only gives the
basics. The tips and videos mentioned in the compendium are so helpful.

I can't believe after using Frame for 30 years, I found out through a link
to Rick Quatro's website the answer to something that I never knew (I don't
know why I never asked the list about it): why the heck sometimes our books
included the GroupTitles IOM tag in the PDF bookmarks and other times it
didn't have the tag available to choose. I had dealt with it by setting up a
heading for A,B,Cs in the books to be able to include in bookmarks. Today, I
found the answer, as noted in Rick's site with attribution to Scott
Prentice:
http://frameautomation.com/setting-acrobat-bookmarks-for-a-book/#more-88

So a million thanks to Klaus, Rick, Scott, and all the other list members
who are willing to put in so much time and effort to help with Frame
questions and problems. Your generosity is amazing!

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Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

[rick]

Hi Winfried,

You can only programmatically "pull up" or "push down" to another version.
So, she would need to run my script on FrameMaker 2020 to pull the
FrameMaker 7 files up to the current version.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

Hi Rick,

But she would need the script on FM 7, wouldn't she?
ExtendScript was introduced later.
And I do not know, if FrameScript was already available for FM 7.
On FM 2020 possibly an easy MIF wash.

Best regards

Winfried

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Subject: Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

Hi Wendy,

If you want a batch process, take a look at my ConvertDocs script at my web
store. Thanks.

Rick

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Re: [Framers] transitioning from Frame 7 to 2020

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Hi Wendy,

If you want a batch process, take a look at my ConvertDocs script at my web
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Rick

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Re: [Framers] Fixing table number in a cross-reference

[rick]

There should be a <$paranum> building block that picks up the entire
autonumber.

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Subject: [Framers] Fixing table number in a cross-reference

I just noticed that this cross-reference format returns a cross-reference
that does not pick up the hyphen in the referenced table number.

The C-R used to reference Table 3-3 on page 39 in Chapter 3: Table\
<$paranumonly> on page\ <$pagenum> in Chapter <$chapnum>

Returns (example): Table 3.3 on page 39 in Chapter 3

Is there a way to have the cross-reference to correctly reference the table
number as 3-3 and NOT 3.3? I don't see a building block anywhere that would
replace <



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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

[rick]

As Lynne said, because FrameMaker has a built-in, enterprise-level XSLT
processor, you can specify XSLT stylesheets on import and export as part of
your structured application.

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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

[rick]

You can also go in the other direction. Input:



   :SYSTem:COMMunicate:TCP:IP:ADDRess
   Outputs the IP address of the Ethernet
interface.


XSLT stylesheet:


http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform;
xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
xmlns:math="http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-functions/math;
exclude-result-prefixes="xs math"
version="3.0" expand-text="yes">













Output (same as your original input):





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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

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Here is an example. Input:




XSLT stylesheet:


http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform;
xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
xmlns:math="http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-functions/math;
exclude-result-prefixes="xs math"
version="3.0" expand-text="yes">






{@String}
{@ClassDescription}





Output:



   :SYSTem:COMMunicate:TCP:IP:ADDRess
   Outputs the IP address of the Ethernet
interface.


-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
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Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 3:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

Hi All, I'm not sure how to share the file contents wit the group here.

Simple question is how to break attribute values out into separate
paragraphs?

The XML element:



My EDD for the element:

Element (Container):  ScpiCommand
General rule:
Suffixes
s
Attribute list
Name: ClassName String Optional
Name: ClassLongName String Optional
Name: ClassDescription String Optional
Name: String String Optional
Name: Overlapping String Optional
Name: Lockable String Optional
Name: Type String Optional
Format rules for first paragraph in element In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: SCPICommand
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Indented
Format rules for last paragraph in element In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Indented
Prefix rules
In all contexts.
Prefix: <$attribute[String]> <$attribute[ClassDescription]>


The result comes out as a run-together paragraph using the SCPICommand
paraformat. I am just wanting to print the String and ClassDescription
attribute values.

Thanks C2

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[Framers] OT: FrameMaker Scripts and Ride for Roswell

[rick]

Hi All,

I am doing the Ride for Roswell again this year. This is a charity ride to
benefit the Roswell Park Cancer Center in Buffalo, NY. I raise money by
providing FrameMaker scripts in exchange for a donation to the ride. Here is
a link to the donation page:

https://give.roswellpark.org/goto/rickquatro

For a donation of $25 or more, I will provide you with a site license for
one of my off-the-shelf scripts, including the source code. Or, if you have
an idea for a custom script, I may be able to provide you with a solution in
exchange for a larger donation.

For example, I just wrote an Acrobat JavaScript for my friend Lin Sims that
merges two bookmarks in her PDF. In FrameMaker, she has this:

Section 1
Introduction
.
Section 2
Installation
.

In the PDF, she gets this:

Section 1: Introduction
.
Section 2: Installation
.

This script could easily be customized for your documents. Be creative with
your ideas and let's see what we can do! I will take care of riding the 100
miles on June 25th. Thank you!

Rick

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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

[rick]

Because they may need high-quality PDF and print output.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

Also, if you're writing DITA, why use FrameMaker rather than Oxygen?
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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

[rick]

Hi C2,

If you can mock up a sample of your output XML, even if it is not final, I
can show you how it would work. Thanks.

Rick

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

Hi Rick,

I have not yet begun, so DTD, EDD, template, and RW rules need to be
defined. I think I can do this.

Looks like I'll need to learn about XSLT. Is there a brute force path to
getting something simple like this workable?

Thanks C2

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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:41:58 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
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Hi C2,

You can apply an XSLT stylesheet automatically on import or export (or
both). The stylesheet file would be part of your custom structured
application. XSLT allows you completely transform your XML, including
changing the order of elements, converting attributes to elements, etc.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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585-729-6746
r...@frameexpert.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:44:27 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App
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Do you have the EDD set up yet for the output FrameMaker document?

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of cuc tu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

Hi Framers,

Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of
programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two
basic question s about using the XML content.

All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes
visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change
the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the
command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements?

Here is an example:



  


  


  
  

  
...

  
  



In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then
follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed.
In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the
appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element

So above would be something like:

:SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE
Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset
setup type.
Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED
Query Result Parameters:  DEF, SAV
Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF
Sets the system preset setup type to Default.
SYST:PRES:TYPE?
Outputs the system preset setup type.


Thanks
C2
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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

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Do you have the EDD set up yet for the output FrameMaker document?

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of cuc tu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

Hi Framers,

Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of
programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two
basic question s about using the XML content.

All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes
visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change
the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the
command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements?

Here is an example:



  


  


  
  

  
...

  
  



In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then
follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed.
In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the
appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element

So above would be something like:

:SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE
Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset
setup type.
Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED
Query Result Parameters:  DEF, SAV
Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF
Sets the system preset setup type to Default.
SYST:PRES:TYPE?
Outputs the system preset setup type.


Thanks
C2

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Re: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

[rick]

Hi C2,

You can apply an XSLT stylesheet automatically on import or export (or
both). The stylesheet file would be part of your custom structured
application. XSLT allows you completely transform your XML, including
changing the order of elements, converting attributes to elements, etc. 

Rick

Rick Quatro
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585-729-6746
r...@frameexpert.com
http://www.frameexpert.com/store



-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of cuc tu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:06 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Another Simple Structured App

Hi Framers,

Our engineering group is giving me an XML file to build a dictionary of
programming commands. I'm still a novice at structured frame and have two
basic question s about using the XML content.

All content is in attribute values. I'm sure I can make certain attributes
visible, apply formatting, and add prefix/suffix. Can I automatically change
the order of the content? They are presenting the definition before the
command word. Can attribute values be pulled in from other elements?

Here is an example:



  


  


  
  

  
...

  
  



In all commands, I want to print the String value as a heading first, then
follow with ClassDescription as a paragraph, but the order is reversed.
In the CommandParameters element, I want to print the values of the
appropriate EnumList element attributes found in the appropriate element

So above would be something like:

:SYSTem:PRESet:TYPE
Description: Sets the system preset setup type. Outputs the system preset
setup type.
Command Parameters: DEFAULT, SAVED
Query Result Parameters:  DEF, SAV
Examples: SYST:PRES:TYPE DEF
Sets the system preset setup type to Default.
SYST:PRES:TYPE?
Outputs the system preset setup type.


Thanks
C2

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Re: [Framers] License update

[rick]

CDW is a reputable company. One thing to check: 2019 was available as a
32-bit or 64-bit program. I am not sure of both shipped in the same box, but
you should get the 64-bit version if you want to take advantage of more
memory, etc. Be aware though, that any existing 32-bit plugins that you
might have will not work with the 64-bit version of FrameMaker. ExtendScript
script should still work (all mine do).

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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 2:25 AM
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Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch
Subject: [Framers] License update

Dear Framers,

I am using FrameMaker 2015 and am planning to update too FrameMaker 2019 at
the same time as moving to a new laptop. I would appreciate help with two
questions:

1. I am not interested in a subscription, only in buying a license. I found
no possibility on Adobe's site but one on CDW
(https://www.cdw.com/product/adobe-framemaker-2019-release-license-1-user/52
44308). Can anyone confirm that this source is suitable? The licensing is
not clear from their site (I wrote to them for clarification), so if anyone
has experience with them I will be grateful. The source I used back in 2015
thanks to a tip from this list, Insight
(https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/65292764AD01A00/Adobe/65292764AD
01A00/AdobeFrameMaker(2019Release/)), currently says that the site is under
maintenance.

2. I am not following this email list on a daily basis (I do use FrameMaker
on a daily basis -- it has been my main writing tool since ca. 1998 --  but
it does what I want and I know its quirks), so I apologize if everyone else
knows the answer to my next question: is it a good idea to purchase the 2019
version now, or is there another expected update coming out soon?

Thanks in advance and best regards,

-- Bertrand Meyer
Last (FrameMaker-produced) book: Agile: The Good, the Hype and the Ugly,
Springer,
https://www.amazon.com/Agile-Good-Hype-Bertrand-Meyer/dp/3319051547

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Re: [Framers] Old problem with scrolling in Frame

[rick]

Hi Wendy,

That is likely what I used to call the Scroll Back bug, which is caused by
graphic items on top of imported graphics with Runaround Properties set to
something besides Don't Runaround. When paging through a document, it caused
FrameMaker to scroll back to the top of the page. Is this what is happening
to you? Thanks.

Rick

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 7:57 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Old problem with scrolling in Frame

Hi, Framers,
I am having a problem with my mouse scrolling in Frame. We are still using
Frame 7.0 and it has been beautifully stable all these years, with a few
quirks like needing a special mouse driver for scrolling. Our IT department
just moved us to Office 365, which nuked all my settings and customizations
in Frame and other apps (they didn't give anyone warning about it). Now my
scrolling in Frame files won't work as it had before the change.

If anyone on the list remembers this problem from long ago, can you tell me
what worked to fix it? One of our IT people installed FreeWheel but that
didn't work.
I'm working remotely to a Windows 10 PC through Jump Desktop on a Mac.

Hope somebody remembers and I can get it resolved. Not being able to scroll
in Frame is driving me crazy! We have been kicking around the idea of
upgrading to the latest version of Frame, but have been hesitant. Thoughts,
anyone?

Wendy McGovern


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Re: [Framers] Aircraft DTDs, schemas, or EDDs

[rick]

Hi Wim,

 

Thank you very much. I will reach out to Alex and see what he is doing in this 
space. I hope you are doing well.

 

Best regards,

Rick

 

From: Wim Hooghwinkel  
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 4:06 AM
To: r...@rickquatro.com
Cc: Framers 
Subject: Aircraft DTDs, schemas, or EDDs

 

Hi Rick,

 

you may try to check with Alex Masycheff (a...@intuillion.com 
<mailto:a...@intuillion.com> ) - as they’ve built a CMS for flight operations 
documentation based on DITA but with ATA as output format (both XML and PDF).

 

This system is built on DITAToo CMS with a customised Fonto as editor. It could 
be adapted to match your requirements, it includes a configuration manager.



Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel

 

 

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Re: [Framers] Aircraft DTDs, schemas, or EDDs

[rick]

Hi Ian,

Thank you for your reply. My client actually wants them in XML, but starting
with the SGML DTD might be better than starting from scratch.

I would even be content with obtaining some structured FrameMaker sample
chapters because I could extract the EDDs from them.

Thanks again,
Rick

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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Aircraft DTDs, schemas, or EDDs

Hi Rick,
If the manuals are to be published as ATA iSpec2200 SGML, then you will need
to buy/obtain the specification and DTD set from Airlines for America.
https://publications.airlines.org/CommerceProductDetail.aspx?Product=313
Maybe your customer will have copies that they can provide for you?

Unfortunately I no longer have access to any of my previous ATA EDDs and
templates. If SGML is the required output then FDK or ExtendScript will
probably be essential for the AMM. Maybe even the Structure API. Some of the
ATA structures don't play well with FrameMaker objects.

Good luck
Ian

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Subject: [Framers] Aircraft DTDs, schemas, or EDDs

Hi All,

 

I have a project now to build a new AMM, IPC manual set for a B747-400. I
would like to find existing DTDs, schemas, or FrameMaker EDDs for these
types of manuals. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

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http://www.frameexpert.com/store

 

 

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[Framers] Aircraft DTDs, schemas, or EDDs

[rick]

Hi All,

 

I have a project now to build a new AMM, IPC manual set for a B747-400. I
would like to find existing DTDs, schemas, or FrameMaker EDDs for these
types of manuals. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thank you.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-729-6746

r...@frameexpert.com <mailto:r...@frameexpert.com> 

http://www.frameexpert.com/store

 

 

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[Framers] FrameMaker manuals available for the cost of shipping

[rick]

>From former list mom, Carol Elkins:

 

I have the original User Guides for Framemaker 5, 5.5, 6, and 7 that I am
willing to give to anyone who is willing to pay the shipping costs. These
are big, heavy books, and shipping will run about $5/book.

 

I also have a copy of "Advanced Framemaker" written by Kay Ethier, Robert
Kern, Brad Anderson, and Bernard Aschwanden for Frame 7.1. 

This is the manual that explains how to set up autonumbering using the
matrix that Bernard provided in his 2008 presentation. This book sells used
on Amazon for $80 and they won't accept any new listings for it. Again, I'm
willing to give it away for S costs.

 

Please contact her offlist if interested:  celk...@critterhaven.biz
 

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[Framers] An article that mentions FrameMaker

[rick]

Here is a link to an interesting article that mentions FrameMaker and shows
a screenshot of version 3.0:

 

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/why-are-hyperlinks-blue-revisit
ed/

 

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Re: [Framers] TOC issue

[rick]

This is not really a bug but a "feature," at least according to the FrameMaker 
documentation. I posted some information, including screenshots, on the Adobe 
Forums.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/broken-toc-links/m-p/12602277#M73178

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:47 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue

Great news! Thanks to Rick!

This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug,  that 
needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do 
> contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem 
> to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago 
> and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) 
> punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC).
>
> Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of 
> the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was 
> taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the 
> character didn't begin the link, all was OK.
>
> Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will 
> solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user 
> (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this 
> little gem anyway.
>
> Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post 
> to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn 
> so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can 
> come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience.
>
> Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays.
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com 
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers  > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On
> > Behalf Of Peter Gold
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue
> >
> > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem
> paragraphs,
> > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try 
> > deleting
> or;
> > hiding the bad ones one with a condition.
> >
> > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. 
> > Have
> you
> > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, 
> > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide 
> > it, to
> ignore the
> > placeholder, and regen.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < 
> > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 
> > >
> > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . .
> > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port 
> > > in a storm. . .
> > >
> > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my 
> > > rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear 
> > > back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . .
> > >
> > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point 
> > > I’m so
> > > frustrated) but not to me!
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos.
> > >
> > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible 
> > > > 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tammy,
> > > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried 
> > > > everything I
> > > would
> > > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), 
> > > > but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in 
> > > > Acrobat after the
> > > fact?
> > > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch...
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > > -Lise
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com 
> > > >> < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Craig,
> > > >>
> > > >> No there is no difference in the

Re: [Framers] Adobe Acrobat Pro XI Distiller issue

[rick]

Hi Tammy,

There should be a .log file in the folder. Can you grab that and post the
contents of the file? Thanks.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
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Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 9:32 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Adobe Acrobat Pro XI Distiller issue

Windows 10, 64-bit system. Adobe Framemaker 2019, perpetual license.

 

Since the cows have come home, I print a FM book to .ps to a watched folder,
and then w/ Acrobat Distiller open and set to the correct joboptions file, I
distill the .ps to a PDF. It has worked like a charm all the way through
yesterday when boom - now the book is distilled to about 93% w/out errors
and then Acrobat Distiller just closes. NO error  message, nada, zip, zilch.

 

I have changed ABSOLUTELY nothing on my system, taken no updates, etc. 

 

I have absolutely NO idea why/how this got started, but I am in desperate
need of getting this figured out because I have a specific joptions file
that I must use for each client book (fonts that must be embedded in the
PDF) and with using the Save As PDF option in FM, how on earth do I apply
the right joboptions?

 

Any and all help is sincerely appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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Re: [Framers] Graphic Getting Cut Off

[rick]

Can you post a screenshot of the page with the borders showing?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Graphic Getting Cut Off

Hi All,

We have a mysterious graphic issue. We place a 10x7mm frame to house an
Illustrator (AI) graphic at the beginning of a heading1 with the position at
insertion point and -7pt above baseline. It's been this way for years
without an issue, but now we save as a PDF file and the top half of the
graphic is cut off.

We have an identical heading that was spawned from heading1, named heading0.
This exists for sole purpose of eliminating that heading from the TOC. If we
copy the entire paragraph and then change the heading1 para format to
heading0, the problem goes away (and vice-versa). We have deleted the
heading1 format and respawned it from heading0, and the problem returns.

I'm stumped.

Thanks, C2
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[Framers] Word to FrameMaker

[rick]

Hi All,

 

I am working with a developer on converting Word content to FrameMaker, XML,
etc. I am looking for some non-proprietary samples that I can test with.
Round-tripping may be possible. If you have some real-world content that you
are interested in converting, please contact me offlist. Thank you.

 

Rick Quatro

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585-729-6746

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http://www.frameexpert.com/store

 

 

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Re: [Framers] New Adobe Profiles - Business, Personal

[rick]

Hi Dan,

The perpetual licenses still "phone home" to Adobe's licensing servers, so you 
are not necessarily immune to this type of thing in the future.

Rick Quatro
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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:41 PM
To: a...@groupwellesley.com; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker 
software. 
Subject: Re: [Framers] New Adobe Profiles - Business, Personal

YIKES! This reinforces my notion to stay with my perpetually licensed 15.x. The 
entire subscription/profile-based model is user-hostile IMO.

-Dan


-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Alan Houser
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:27 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] New Adobe Profiles - Business, Personal

Just so you know that "you're not alone" ... I have a customer who is totally 
locked out of FrameMaker because of this issue, during a critical project 
period. They are not happy.

-Alan

On 9/23/21 11:13 AM, Sue Thomson wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I use FrameMaker (as part of Technical Communication Suite), and a number of 
> Creative Cloud apps (mainly Illustrator but I also use others occasionally) 
> all day. I usually run FrameMaker and Illustrator at the same time, switching 
> between them tens of times during the day.
>
> I recently updated FrameMaker from v16.0.2 to 16.0.3. When I restarted 
> FrameMaker I was prompted to choose an Adobe Profile. The choice was Business 
> or Personal. There was no way (that I could see) to progress without making a 
> choice.
>
> I had not heard of these profiles before so I looked at the guidance on the 
> page and chose Business.
>
> Oh, boy! How I wish I had not updated FrameMaker. These profiles are causing 
> me no end of trouble.
>
> Our IT department has been talking to Adobe, and IT tells me that Adobe says… 
> TCS and FM are only available under Personal profile, Creative Cloud apps are 
> only available under Business profile.
>
> This means that now, every time I want to switch between two applications 
> (which have been running perfectly happily, side-by-side, for years), I have 
> to sign out of one profile and sign back in under the other profile. The 
> applications, of course, close each time I sign out. If I don’t change 
> profiles, then either FrameMaker or Illustrator (depending upon how I am 
> signed in) claims to be a trial version, with a countdown.
>
> Oddly, if I right-click on an image in FrameMaker I still get the same old 
> choices to edit the image – i.e. Illustrator and Photoshop are still on the 
> list of options.
>
> Has anyone else come across issues with these new profiles? Am I missing a 
> trick somewhere?
>
> I’ve been using FrameMaker, on-and-off, since v7.2 but this change is making 
> me re-evaluate my tools. I’m seriously wondering if it is time to give up on 
> Adobe and switch to something more useable.
>
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[Framers] OT: Software store

[rick]

Hi All,

 

Off topic question here, but my online store vendor is dropping me because
of lower volume. Any recommendations for a new vendor would be appreciated.
It needs to be a place where people can purchase and download software.
Thank you very much.

 

Rick Quatro

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Re: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats

[rick]

Hi Karen,

FYI, if this is an ongoing requirement, it could be scripted to maintain all
of the paragraph formats when converting to a table. If you are interested
in a script solution, please contact me offlist. Thank you.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Karen Robbins
Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2021 1:11 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Table Conversion with Formats

Hi Framers,

I'm updating a long-used FM document for accessibility. Using FM 2019's
Table > Convert to Table function, I converted existing formatted paragraphs
with tabbed columns into an actual table.

The conversion correctly applies table title and column header formats. But
it ignores all other paragraph formats, so the entire page-long table is
converted to column header format. I have to reassign the table text format
to the entire table (because it covers the most content), then individually
assign different formats to the cells in which they apply. This takes about
five times as long as it should. There are 16 tables, so you do the math.

FM's conversion approach is illogical and contrary: it applies some other
format to already-formatted content without warning or explanation. Can FM
be made to convert to table keeping all paragraph formats intact?

Thanks,
Karen
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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF [No Classification]

[rick]

No. I tried software to convert the equations to images but a lot of them
blew up and were urecognizable.

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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF [No
Classification]

Hey Rick, Did this ever go anywhere w/ you at all? Thanks! TVB Tammy Van
Boening Principal/Owner Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755 -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of
r...@rickquatro.com Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 3:31 PM To: 'An email list
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Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF [No Classification] Please send
me one of your Word documents offlist. Thanks.
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Re: [Framers] Importing InDesign IDML into two tools. Was RE: FM 10 on a new computer.

[rick]

Some of us use both, so it could be useful information.

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From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 9:55 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Importing InDesign IDML into two tools. Was RE: FM 10 on 
a new computer.

I just realized that I am wasting time for you all with an InDesign-related 
thread in a FrameMaker forum.

Sorry about that! ☹ 

So ... moving on ...

Z

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 6:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Importing InDesign IDML into two tools. Was RE: FM 10 on 
a new computer.

Robert, my son checked and could not find an Export or Save As capability for 
RTF in InDesign. Do you, or anyone else, know if this is possible?

Peter, the readback of the IDML back into InDesign was fine! My son noted that 
the display looked like the original INDD file. 

FWIW, I also tried opening the PDF (from InDesign) into Word and discovered 
some of the same errors (for example, carriage returns in wrong places in the 
text). The only thing I have not tried yet is to output Word or RTF format from 
Acrobat Pro ... hmmm.

It is possible that our tech writer (no longer with us, unfortunately) who did 
the InDesign work for this document had extra carrier returns in there - which 
do not "show" in the PDF or within InDesign, but are present when the PDF (into 
Word) and IDML (into Affinity and Designer Pro) are imported!

Since I do not have an InDesign license, I cannot verify this myself ... may 
download a trial to check things out myself, but I am not familiar with 
InDesign, so this may be slow ...

Z

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:57 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Importing InDesign IDML into two tools. Was RE: FM 10 on 
a new computer.

Hi, Robert!

For whatever reasons, I never needed or wanted to go to Github, until 
now!!! Egad!

Now that I’ve seen this, I’m not going to wonder about it. I am sure I’m not 
going down this rabbit hole. It reminds me of the scene in the Tom Sawyer movie 
I saw as a kid, when the string ran out and the candle died, and I was sure if 
I were with Tom and Becky, I'd never get back outside the cave. ;)

But, this peek answers some of my questions about the problems being discussed 
here.

The real issues, IMO, is which FrameMaker document properties an author expects 
to preserve when converting to another application, and whether the goal is to 
return the transformed and modified document perfectly re-interpreted to FM 
from the foreign application. Basically, two different universes need to be 
preserved - text and objects. Each application describes text and object 
properties with different languages and structures. And, just as in human 
languages, some ideas don't translate directly. Over FM's lifetime, some later 
releases had problems supporting structures from earlier ones. If this stuff 
were easy, it wouldn't have taken so long for some seemingly-simple feature 
requests to have been honored.

So, in this branch of the thread, I wonder if converting a document to a 
competing layout application preserves layout features, does FM or ID text 
that's copied and pasted into the converted layout survive well, or is it also 
garbled as described? Does RTF work better or worse? Remember that InDesign has 
one of the most sophisticated text composition engines. So, perhaps the 
competitors don't compute text properties as well, or they lack some comparable 
computed properties.


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:22 PM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> Did you try exporting from InDesign as RTF?
>
> Even if they're not using the same library, such as 
> https://github.com/jorisros/IDMLlib , other applications will inevitably have 
> trouble reading IDM if they can't do everything that InDesign can.
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 2:12 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain 
>  wrote:
> >
> > A last update.
> >
> > Reading the IDML back into InDesign worked fine - looked like the original!
> >
> > So, both these other tools have some limitations importing IDML.
> >
> > Although Affinity Publisher was a small amount better (not enough to 
> > justify my getting yet another editing tool - I will get the trial lapse).
> >
> > So, they are clearly fine for *new* work, but importing IDML from InDesign 
> > would require repair to fix some errors - which errors, as  mentioned 
> > earlier, surprisingly overlapped in the tools.
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Re: [Framers] Tagged PDF Is Not Tagged

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Hi Karen,

Do you get the tags if you use File > Publish? Thanks.

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Subject: [Framers] Tagged PDF Is Not Tagged

Hi Framers,

I carefully set FM (2019) PDF Setup for Tags for my book. Yet no matter how
I convert to PDF (save as or print), not a single thing appears to be tagged
in the converted PDF when opened in Acrobat DC (2021) with Accessibility
tool(s) on. I tested files individually, and they behave the same way.
Saving PDF settings inside the PDF file doesn't make any difference.
(Bookmark settings in PDF Setup work correctly.)

In comparison, my project's cover page is built in QuarkXPress; without any
human intervention, it was properly tagged when output to PDF.

Documentation is of little use; I can't find anything beyond the basic in
Adobe's, and third parties don't go near FM.

I must be missing something obvious. What else must I do in FM to make tags
be present in the PDF it creates?

Thanks for any insight or resources.

Karen
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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF [No Classification]

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Please send me one of your Word documents offlist. Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF [No Classification]

[rick]

That might be worth exploring. I did find a word add-on that converts all
equations to images. If the image quality can be controlled on export from
Word, this may be the way to go. Or, this may work:

1) Convert equations to images.
2) Convert Word to PDF.
3) Extract images from the PDF.

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This message has been marked as No Classification by Mitchell, Richard
(NNPPI) at 09 August 2021 10:14:58 I you want to use an option that will
manipulate graphics from Word have you tried inserting the equation into a
graphic frame so that Word thinks it is a graphic?

Thanks

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[Framers] OT: Ride completed, a lot of money raised

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Thank you to all of the generous framers and friends who contributed to the
2021 Ride for Roswell Cancer Center ride. The ride raised over $4.9 million
for cancer treatment and research. I was able to complete the 100 mile route
in about 6-1/2 hours. It was a beautiful day and a lot of fun. I am happy to
be part of the FrameMaker community. Thanks again!

 

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Re: [Framers] Appearance of graphics in the generated PDF

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Here is a summary of the issue:

Equations originate from the client in MS Word.

Tammy wants to save the equations as images for import into FrameMaker.

The fastest way to do this is to save the Word file as HTML because it
rasterizes the equations as PNG files for inclusion in the HTML. The problem
is that the resolution of these rasterized PNG files is 96 dpi, which is
suitable for the web, but not for print. We can't see a way to increase the
resolution in the Word rasterization process.

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[Framers] Is IXgen available for 64-bit FrameMaker?

[rick]

Hi,

 

Is IXgen being updated for 64-bit versions of FrameMaker? Thanks.

 

Rick

 

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[Framers] Wanted: generated file case study

[rick]

Hello Framers,

 

While FrameMaker generated files are useful, there are limitations to what
you can produce with the built-in features. For example, you can't pick up
variables and data from master pages. And you can't present information in
non-document order or in tables. I have solved these problems for clients
using simple ExtendScript scripts and some structured FrameMaker features,
even in unstructured books. 

 

I am looking to putting together a case study and a webinar to demonstrate
some examples of complex generated files. I need a good document set and an
example of what you would like to present as a generated file from the data.
The document set needs to be something that I can show to others. In
exchange for a good document set and permission to use it in a case study, I
will give you the scripts to produce the generated file for free. Thank you
very much.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] Regular Expressions

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Regular expressions are so useful in a lot of different contexts, including
FrameMaker, ExtendScript, XSLT, Notepad++, etc. I just did an ExtendScript
job this morning that uses regular expressions to parse out comma-separated
text. Once I figured out the regular expression pattern, the rest of it was
easy. Thanks for posting the link.

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-Original Message-
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Subject: [Framers] Regular Expressions

   I found this great site for regular expressions. [1]https://regexr.com/

   It has a really nice summary of the regular expressions syntax - click
   on Cheatsheet - and a test area where you can test your regular
   expressions.

   Note that in FrameMaker, the regular expression A-Z finds lowercase
   letters also, unless you select Consider Case.

   HTH

   --
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References

   1. https://regexr.com/
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Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?

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Thank you everyone for all of the love and appreciation. In reality, Carol
has done all of the work and has been a great list mom and friend. The Frame
community has some great people in it and I enjoy being a part of it.

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Re: [Framers] Backups

[rick]

Hi Peter,

My ArchiveES was written as a replacement for (and tribute to) Bruce
Foster's Archive plugin.

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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Backups

One of the first FM lifesavers I heard about in the early days was Bruce
Foster's Archive utility. It copied FM document folders to specified
locations and adjusted reference links.

Perhaps someone on the list knows if it still works with recent Windows and
FM releases, where to find it, etc.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021, 10:03 AM tammyvb 
wrote:

> Also remember that your backup files have the same graphic import 
> information and x-ref info as your master files, so if you move them 
> to a different folder and don't keep the same relative path  all your 
> links will be broken and if you need to save yourself from a bad 
> situation with the backup files, you will have to set up all that 
> information again. . .as Lin stated, Ruck does have a script that helps
somewhat in this endeavor. .
> .windwr if he could trick it out to solve this linking issue?Sent from 
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> backup files in asub-folder below the project folder?  I see where to 
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Re: [Framers] Backups

[rick]

Hi All,

Late to the party here so give me time to catch up. But, I need to finish
raising money for the Ride for Roswell Cancer center ride in August. As
usual, riding the 100 mile route. If you donate to the ride, I will give you
ArchiveES or any other script from my store. Thank you very much!

http://give.roswellpark.org/goto/rick-quatro

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Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] Backups

I swear by Rick Quattro's ArchiveES and Convert Documents add-ons. ArchiveES
archives the complete book, including graphics and text insets, and
maintains the integrity of all links and cross-references in another
location. We then run the Convert Documents on the archive to add mif
conversions of all of the FM files to the archive, which makes it easier for
us to work across platforms with other users, especially translation
agencies.



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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] Backups

One of the first FM lifesavers I heard about in the early days was Bruce
Foster's Archive utility. It copied FM document folders to specified
locations and adjusted reference links.

Perhaps someone on the list knows if it still works with recent Windows and
FM releases, where to find it, etc.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021, 10:03 AM tammyvb 
wrote:

> Also remember that your backup files have the same graphic import 
> information and x-ref info as your master files, so if you move them 
> to a different folder and don't keep the same relative path  all your 
> links will be broken and if you need to save yourself from a bad 
> situation with the backup files, you will have to set up all that 
> information again. . .as Lin stated, Ruck does have a script that helps
somewhat in this endeavor. .
> .windwr if he could trick it out to solve this linking issue?Sent from 
> Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: D B  Date:
> 6/17/21  6:16 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: "An email list for people using 
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Re: [Framers] A bizarre cross-reference issue

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How is your Link character format set up? Is the Position property set to As
Is? If not, that may be the issue.

Instead of applying two character formats, I would suggest that you make a
single character format called SuperscriptLink (or something like that) that
has both the superscript position and your link color. This should be more
reliable than applying two separate character formats to the number.

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Subject: [Framers] A bizarre cross-reference issue

I am writing a scientific principles guides that is heavily referenced, and
I do mean heavily . (Like to the tune of over 400 references.)

 

I have two x-reference formats for this:

 

Reference,  <$paranumonly>,

Reference   <$paranumonly>

 

After writing for a bit (and saving frequently), I decide to update the book
file. I use Edit > Update Book, and in the Update Book dialog, everything
(and I do mean everything, cross-references included) is selected for
update. I get absolutely no errors after updating but EVERY SINGLE
cross-reference that uses either of the above formats loses its superscript
formatting. Blam. .. they are all in line and of the same font size as an
ordinary line of body text. 

 

I have to go into each and every file and select Edit > Update References
with Cross-References selected and then and only then do the references go
back to superscript.

 

I am at a total loss for why this is happening and the real kicker is that
this just started happening last week. Until then, same book, same template,
same bat channel, same bat time, and I could do a simple Edit > Update Book
and everything was just peachy.

 

Needless to say, this is a big PITA, and very time-consuming. If anybody has
any ideas/thoughts, can commiserate, and offer a solution other than
drinking heavily at the end of a long day of writing, I would most
appreciate it.

 

Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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Re: [Framers] Processing time

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Starting with FrameMaker 2019, FrameMaker is 64-bit so you can throw more
RAM at it. I suggest 32 Gb at a minimum. There is also a faster PDF engine
starting with 2019. To be sure that it will improve your process, you may
want to download and install the latest trial and see what kind of
improvements you get.

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Subject: [Framers] Processing time

Whenever I publish to HTML or save to PDF, FrameMaker takes longer than I'd
like.  Waiting on Frame to finish processing is slowing down my productivity
(and trying my patience).

What's the best way to tackle this issue?  More RAM?  A faster CPU?
Something else?

I'm running FM 2017 on the following:

64-bit Windows 10 Pro version 20H2
Intel i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40 GHz
16 GB

Thanks!

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Anchored Frame in Table Cell is hiding borders

[rick]

Hi Carla,

I am sorry for not looking closely enough. Can you try at insertion point
and right-align the anchor paragraph?

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Anchored Frame in Table Cell is hiding borders

Rick - 

There is 5pt right cell padding. The Table Designer window is shown at the
link, and the table cells have 3pt Top/Bottom, and 5pt Left/Right. I've
changed it to a larger number, with no luck. 

The Anchored Frame properties are Below Current Line, Right Alignment.

We are using a defined Object Tag for these frames, and the weird thing is
that this is only happening to some of them, not all. 

-Carla



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[External Email]

Carla, can you put a little cell padding on the right of those cells? You
shouldn't need much.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 4:03 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Anchored Frame in Table Cell is hiding borders

I have an issue where graphics in an anchored frame inside of a table are
running over and hiding the table border to the right. This carries through
to the PDF output. (This is a parts list with descriptions in the next
cell).

I've checked multiple object settings - the frame, the table, etc. Nothing
I've tried seems to fix the issue. Does anyone have any recommendations for
this?

I've put some images here for reference since I don't think the ones I
attach will go through:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_drive_
folders_15LlC7-5FUuqHL1eTRXSUlfwjgqUKgFfjGd-3Fusp=DwICAg=Qwsh1H-X9ypOoLL
EcAIltQ=VFsLqEV1g3KHaBwrWlr4VKIfKdA7dv7QvbuBE1idbJI=m2yy616S_5wocSw44ut0
siaJcltFziVE4xsYQyvKO3Y=NuT8cZySRPa417N7a2kyfKEDrNmgOcSjh7f8MRTTbZU=
=sharing

Thx
Carla






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Re: [Framers] Anchored Frame in Table Cell is hiding borders

[rick]

Carla, can you put a little cell padding on the right of those cells? You
shouldn't need much.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 4:03 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Anchored Frame in Table Cell is hiding borders

I have an issue where graphics in an anchored frame inside of a table are
running over and hiding the table border to the right. This carries through
to the PDF output. (This is a parts list with descriptions in the next
cell).

I've checked multiple object settings - the frame, the table, etc. Nothing
I've tried seems to fix the issue. Does anyone have any recommendations for
this?

I've put some images here for reference since I don't think the ones I
attach will go through:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15LlC7_UuqHL1eTRXSUlfwjgqUKgFfjGd?usp
=sharing

Thx
Carla






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Re: [Framers] Anchored Frames in MIF

[rick]

The easiest way to do this is to create a blank Portrait document, insert an
anchored frame with the desired settings, save it as MIF, and open it with a
text editor. Then you can find what you need for the replacement text.

Alternatively, you could do this with ExtendScript in the FrameMaker
interface.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Anchored Frames in MIF

Is there a quick and easy way to use Replace All in a MIF to change all
anchored frames from using an Anchoring Position of "At Insertion Point" to
"Below Current Line"?

Thanks!
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Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs

[rick]

A script could be used to convert the cross-references to Hypertext links.
Please contact me off-list if you are interested in exploring this. Thank
you very much.

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Re: [Framers] Oh for the Good Old Days

[rick]

It seems like most software programs have a "golden version" before feature
bloat or performance decline. For me, FrameMaker 8 was that version. Good
performance, especially with FrameScript and acceptable Unicode support.
Don't get me wrong, there are some things to like about recent versions, but
I loved the simplicity of the pre-Adobe interface.

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 8:31 AM
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Subject: [Framers] Oh for the Good Old Days

Hello Framers

The last time I used FrameMaker in anger (to typeset a book) was six years
ago. I did it in FrameMaker 7 for Mac, under Classic, on a 2003 Apple Mac.

Just recently I fired up FrameMaker 12 (the most recent version I have or
ever will have) to typeset a simple document. Oh my, what a hassle! Try as I
would I could not get paragraph formats to 'stick', or to override paragraph
formats that the app seemed to have unilaterally invented for itself. Even
importing formats from a 'good' document didn't work. And now that my
eyesight is poorer, I searched in vain for a setting to make the text in
pods bigger. Or a way to get them to stay on the left side of the screen, as
I'm left-handed.

This is absolutely not a request for assistance, just a howl of regret for
what was. I took FrameMaker 7 on Mac to the level of setting up a
semi-automated structured writing environment for a team of authors, the
documentation for which ran to 70+ pages. I am heartily glad I don't have to
do anything like that in a current version. (And yes I know that FrameMaker
12 is far from current, but from what I've read here things are little
better now.)

--
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Re: [Framers] A n00b question about anchored frames

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Patrick,

The short answer is yes, if you position the anchored frames at insertion point 
or outside the text column or frame.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] A n00b question about anchored frames

Hi all,

I would like to be able to place two anchored frames side-by-side in a single 
column in a text frame. It would be even better if at least one of the anchored 
frames could extend past the width of the column. Does FrameMaker allow this?

Best,
Patrick

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Re: [Framers] X-ref issue: FM links that work in the FM file but don't work in the PDF file that is generated from it

[Rick Quatro]

What version of FrameMaker are you using? If you have the PDF Setup dialog
box, make sure you check the "Create Named Destinations for All Elements and
Paragraphs" checked in the Links tab of the dialog box.

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Subject: [Framers] X-ref issue: FM links that work in the FM file but don't
work in the PDF file that is generated from it

Greetings,
A cross-reference problem has cropped up in FM-to-PDF generation.
Links that work in an FM file (i.e., when you double click on a link,
clicking the resulting "Go to Source" button jumps you to the correct
source) do NOT always work when the file is converted to PDF.
This means that to check the validity of x-refs, you cannot rely on the FM
file but have to search the PDF file.
(Needless to say, this is extremely tedious...) I suspect that the
phenomenon is caused by a combination of conditional text and X-ref markers
that have somehow been perverted but what I don't understand is why FM
doesn't (or can't) identify the perverted links as "bad links".
If you have any ideas, TIA,
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Re: [Framers] Problem with Creating Tables with different TableTitles in FM via MIF file.

[Rick Quatro]

Is this what you have for the title?

   # end of Notes

 
 
 
 > # end of ParaLine
> # end of Para
   > # end of TblTitleContent
  > # end of TblTitle

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Problem with Creating Tables with different TableTitles
in FM via MIF file.

HI All,
I'm trying to create a simple MIF file that contains tables and can be read
via FM. 
I need this structure for my engineers, so that they can export data in a
pre-defined table format. 

So I have the structure of the table (basically copied the structure given
by one of FM's Sample MIF files (included with the FM installation)). 
In any case. Then I actually read the MIF manual and was able to create the
table and a short body page by creating 2 MIF files. 
 - One MIF file is used as the template file with all my
paras/chars/tables/variables/master pages/ etc defined. (It's very long)
 - The other MIF file includes for now, one table (it will include all the
tables in the Tbls) and the Text Flow. The table is built basically from a
table header and body rows. It has an "include ( template.mif) to call the
template file (so that this MIF file is "only" about 300 lines long and easy
for my developer to follows its syntax so that s/he can auto generate tables
from their database into FM - and the developer doesn't have to deal with
unnecessary defs). This will be used to create all the ")
and then define exceptions to the Table Format by giving the statement name
for the specific property and then redefining it.  i.e. create a local
definition (instantiation) based on the Table catalog definition. (The MIF
manual gives an example of redefining the number of columns and then
adjusting their width - there is nothing about the table title property).
For some reason this does not work with the TableTitle. Any ideas why not? 

Thanks so much,
Orly Zimmerman
Xsight Labs

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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the end of imported file

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Here are the rules that FrameMaker uses for automatic page deletion:

1) Only empty pages that have default master pages applied (Left/Right) at the 
end of the document will be deleted.  By "empty" I mean no text in the 
document's main flow.

2) If the page count is set to even, only empty pages beyond the last even page 
are deleted, which means that you may end up with an empty, even-numbered last 
page.

Here are things that will prevent pages from being automatically deleted:

1) Any empty pages up to and including any pages that have custom master pages 
applied will not be deleted.

2) Any empty pages that have any non-master page items on them will not be 
deleted. This includes non-main flow text frames, graphic objects, etc. that 
are directly on the page.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at the 
end of imported file

Sometimes that is not enough. If you still have empty pages, in the top ribbon, 
click Special. In the drop down, click Delete pages..., and then enter the page 
number(s) to delete. That has always worked for me.


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Subject: Re:  [EXTERNAL]  [Framers] FrameMaker 11 - blank pages appearing at
the end of imported file

Check your pagination. If you have it set to an even number of pages and your 
text ends on an odd number, FM inserts a blank page at the end.

Format > Page Layout > Pagination > Before Saving & Printing drop-down. If it's 
set to "Make Page Count Even", there's your culprit.



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> How do I eliminate these pages so that they don't appear after a file 
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[Framers] ANN: FindAll script (or, too much time on my hands)

[Rick Quatro]

Hi All,

 

I have a new script in development that will allow you to enter a search
string or regular expression and get a list of all matches in a hyperlinked
report. Please see this post for more information:

 

http://frameautomation.com/finding-all-in-a-book-or-document/

 

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Re: [Framers] ANN: ImportSelectedFormats 1.2

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Carol,

Thank you very much! I hope you are safe and well. I will keep you in mind
for FrameMaker projects. We are doing well here so far. Thanks again!

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/ImportSelectedFormats_1_2.zip

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] ANN: ImportSelectedFormats 1.2

Hi Rick,

Although it is unlikely that I will have any more Framemaker projects to do,
I'd like to have your ImportSelectedFormats script. I had Bruce's original
script, and then your 2012 ImportFormatsSpecial, But this new scripts looks
like a great improvement. Thanks for your generosity in offering this script
to support cancer research.

And if you have anyone needing Framemaker help FOR FREE, please let me know.
Working in Framemaker has been the solution to keeping my brain happy. Right
now, I'm making face masks 8 hours a day, but hopefully that will not last
forever.

Carol

At 08:33 AM 4/1/2020, Rick Quatro wrote:
>Hello Framers,
>
>
>
>I have updated my ImportSelectedFormats script by adding more format types.
>More information is here:
>
>
>
>http://frameautomation.com/importing-selected-formats/

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[Framers] ANN: ImportSelectedFormats 1.2

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers,

 

I have updated my ImportSelectedFormats script by adding more format types.
More information is here:

 

http://frameautomation.com/importing-selected-formats/

 

Thank you!

 

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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] ANN: Ride for Roswell and FrameMaker Automation

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tom,

How about my ImportFormatsSpecial? It allows you to import User Variables and 
not System Variables (and vise versa). This allows you to import User Variables 
into your documents without clobbering existing System Variables like Running 
Header/Footer variables.

See http://www.frameexpert.com/store/

Thanks,
Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] ANN: Ride for Roswell and FrameMaker 
Automation

Rick,

I can think of a script that would be useful (and you might have already 
thought of it).

Every time I do a revision I use the rename book components that you did for me 
to save tons of time. However, I still have to go through are revise the 
headers. Normally, I change the header (includes document number) in one 
chapter, then select all of the other parts of the document and import variable 
definitions. This works, but I still have to go back to restore the running H/F 
for the preface, TOC, and Glossaries (each of which has a separate paragraph 
tag). If there was a script that integrated all of that into one, or at least a 
way to import variable definitions while ignoring those that have running 
headers that are different from the source document, that could also be quite 
useful.


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Date: 03/28/2020 06:44PM
Subject: [EXTERNAL]  [Framers] ANN: Ride for Roswell and FrameMaker Automation

Hello Framers,

 

I am planning to participate in the 2020 Ride for Roswell in June to raise 
money for cancer treatment and research. This is the 25th anniversary of the 
ride, which last year attracted over 8,000 riders. I am signed up for the 
100-mile route again this year. I am riding in memory of Bruce Foster and in 
honor of cancer survivor Alexandra Duffy, both long-time members of the 
FrameMaker community.

 

Head over to my blog to get more information on receiving my scripts in 
exchange for a donation. There are also a couple of goodies that are new 
offerings this year. I would appreciate suggestions for other automation 
scripts. Thank you very much.

 

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__frameautomation.com_ride-2Dfor-2Droswell-2D2020_=DwICAg=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM=zzmJd9V-AOY-pLCA-v8cPy_mRSvZCZwNZBdUabWmOfQ=WTAVPE3_q00vIj-Dw1jSQsjcXXUYxJ9Eo7egTi2ZZns=MQEft-ipe0nBsYruidRpacoYPRdcQ5hXYN0LcWv38-I=

 

Rick

 

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[Framers] ANN: Ride for Roswell and FrameMaker Automation

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers,

 

I am planning to participate in the 2020 Ride for Roswell in June to raise
money for cancer treatment and research. This is the 25th anniversary of the
ride, which last year attracted over 8,000 riders. I am signed up for the
100-mile route again this year. I am riding in memory of Bruce Foster and in
honor of cancer survivor Alexandra Duffy, both long-time members of the
FrameMaker community.

 

Head over to my blog to get more information on receiving my scripts in
exchange for a donation. There are also a couple of goodies that are new
offerings this year. I would appreciate suggestions for other automation
scripts. Thank you very much.

 

http://frameautomation.com/ride-for-roswell-2020/

 

Rick

 

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r...@frameexpert.com

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www.frameexpert.com/store/

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?

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Hi Lin,

I am getting ready to set up a page for my 2020 Ride for Roswell, which
raises money for cancer research at Roswell Park in Buffalo. I am going to
supply this and other scripts for a donation to the ride. I am going to do
the 100 mile ride again this year. I should have it up in a day or two.
Thanks.

Rick

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?

So, Rick, when will this be available in your store? ;-)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:48 PM Art Campbell  wrote:

> If this is the script that Rick ran up for me, big thumbs up -- works 
> great, allowing you to push a format to a file, book...
>
> Quick and easy.
>
> Art Campbell
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apply.
>DoD 358
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:55 PM Rick Quatro  wrote:
>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > I have an unreleased script that will do this. Contact me off list 
> > and I will send you the documentation. Thank you very much.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> > r...@frameexpert.com
> > 585-729-6746
> > www.frameexpert.com/store/
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers 
> > 
> > On
> > Behalf Of Jason Nichols
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:45 PM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > More and more, the tech writing team I'm on needs to important just 
> > specific Character Formats and Paragraph Formats into a file or set 
> > of files.
> >
> > Searching through the archives, I found the method below suggested 
> > by
> Fred
> > Ritter.
> > <https://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg55885.
> > html
> >
> > Is this still the best way to accomplish this goal, or does anyone 
> > know
> of
> > a
> > better method or tool that's been discovered or developed in the
> meantime?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > Fred Ridder's technique:
> >
> > 1) Copy any paragraph of the desired format from the source file.
> > 2) Paste it into the target file.
> > 3) Use the Paragraph Designer to add the paragraph format to the 
> > current file's catalog.
> > 4) Delete the pasted paragraph.
> >
> >
> > Stay well,
> >
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Re: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jason,

I have an unreleased script that will do this. Contact me off list and I
will send you the documentation. Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:45 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?

Hello,

More and more, the tech writing team I'm on needs to important just specific
Character Formats and Paragraph Formats into a file or set of files.

Searching through the archives, I found the method below suggested by Fred
Ritter. 
<https://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg55885.html>
Is this still the best way to accomplish this goal, or does anyone know of a
better method or tool that's been discovered or developed in the meantime?

Many thanks in advance!

Fred Ridder's technique:

1) Copy any paragraph of the desired format from the source file.
2) Paste it into the target file.
3) Use the Paragraph Designer to add the paragraph format to the current
file's catalog.
4) Delete the pasted paragraph.


Stay well,

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[Framers] ANN: Copy one file to many folders

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

I hope everyone is safe and well. I just wrote a script that some of you may
be interested in. There are details here. Comments and suggestions are
always welcome. Thank you.

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/ann-copy-one-file-to-many-folders/
td-p/10998204?page=1

 

Thank you,

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Re: [Framers] Applying different paragraph tags to same element

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Brenda,

You set up context rules in the EDD. Please contact me off-list of you want
to meet and I will give you a walkthrough.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Applying different paragraph tags to same element

In my EDD, I have an element named 'mainhead' that I would like to apply
different paragraph tags to depending on the context of the 'mainhead'
element.

What do I need to do in order to do this?

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Re: [Framers] MadCap Flare

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I am a fan of an approach that separates content development from web
design. A writer/editor develops content and a web designer designs the web
pages, css, etc. In my opinion, these are two vastly different skill sets.
Sure, some can do both, but designing responsive sites that will work with
desktops, tablets, and phones takes a deeper level of skill than just
learning a tool like Flare or FrameMaker.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] MadCap Flare

Sadly, IMHO, not enough attention is given to the quality of content on most
Web sites today. That is the part of Web design that you will excel at, Ken,
because you are a tech writer. I firmly believe that good Web design must
start with usability and audience consideration to develop the content. Once
you figure out all of that for the Web site, then you can focus on coding it
in Flare. Work one piece of the challenge at a time.

Carol

At 10:20 AM 2/28/2020, Ken Poshedly wrote:
>While I've done online content here and there, I've not done really 
>full-blown, overall web site design or redesigns. The staff person 
>(a vice president) said that the current page was done using MadCap Flare.

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Re: [Framers] Tables question

[Rick Quatro]

Open a blank, Portrait document and insert a Shaded Blue table. Click in the
table and open the Table Designer. Go to the Shading tab and you will see
how it is set up.

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Subject: [Framers] Tables question

Is there a way to define a Table style that uses alternating color body row
shading?  I want a table where the rows alternate between green and white.
The Table Designer Shading tab seems to want to make all the rows the same
color.

I'm using FM 2017.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

[Rick Quatro]

FYI: I am currently using FrameMaker 12 to do a structured project for a
client. FrameMaker 12 is certainly capable of working with structured
documents.

Rick Quatro
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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:26 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

Ditto what Mike said. The ONLY reason I'm still sticking with Frame12 is
because I have no need for structured documents and there haven't been
enough non-structure improvements since FM12 to justify the cost of
upgrading. Yes, some would-be-nice-to-haves, but nothing worth the price.
The strength of FM is that I can still make it jump through serious
advanced-level hoops despite its age. It just may take a bit longer. Same
thing applies to me, too.

Carol

At 04:29 PM 1/15/2020, Mike Wickham wrote:
>New versions of FrameMaker always seem to concentrate on adding 
>features for the structured community. I get it. That's the strenght 
>of the program. But the new features I'd like to see involve 
>handling of graphics and type. For example, it would be nice to be 
>able to make a graphic float in the middle of a two-column page, and 
>have both columns wrap around it. Or how about taking advantage of 
>the various OpenType features that InDesign can handle with ease, 
>but Frame is clueless about-- like easy, true small caps, or 
>oldstyle numerals? Or optical margins and hanging indents, for a 
>more modern, refined look in printed docs? Or a separate offset 
>setting for numerators and denominators? Right now, you can set 
>superscript and subscript offsets to work for either 
>super/subscripts or numerators/denominators, but not both.

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[Framers] Why doesn't Table Continuation variable element get closed

[Rick Quatro]

Hi,

 

I am using structured FrameMaker 2019 and have Table Continuation variables
wrapped in a  element. When I save as XML, this element
gets output without a closing tag and this causes parser errors. Any idea
why? Thanks.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

[Rick Quatro]

The only thing I would add is to expand on David's mention of explicit
"resetters" for each format in the series:

Chapter   H:<$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>
H1H:<$chapnum>.< =0>< =0>
H2H:<$chapnum>..< =0>
H3H:<$chapnum>...

While these aren't functionally necessary--FrameMaker will reset the numbers
below automatically--I find them useful for documentation purposes. For
example, when I look at the autonumber format for any of these paragraphs, I
know right away that there are 4 related formats in the H series.

It also gives you flexibility to add more formats to the series. For
example, let's say you wanted to add figures and tables to the series and
want them to number independently of each other (Table 1-1, Figure 1-1,
etc.). Now, your series would look like this:

Chapter   H:<$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>
H1H:<$chapnum>.< =0>< =0>< >< >
H2H:<$chapnum>..< =0>< >< >
H3H:<$chapnum>...< >< >
Table   H:<$chapnum>< >< >< >-< >
Figure  H:<$chapnum>< >< >< >< >-< n+>

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of ideasli...@ideastraining.com
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2020 10:27 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

My method/two cents...

You can put the chapters in a book as usual. You can put those books in a
master book to control the volume numbers--or if you just have a few volumes
you can set volume number manually in each book.

You can include the volume number where ever you want--such as x-refs, table
titles, figure captions--by entering the volume code. (The same applies to
the chapter number and the chapnum code.)

Volume<$volnum> []
Chapter   H:<$chapnum> [] 
   (technically, the "H:" is not necessary in the Chapter style,
but I like to keep the 
   chapter and heading number formatting consistent.)
H1*  H:<$chapnum>. []
H2H:<$chapnum>.. []
H3H:<$chapnum>... []

*You have your first H1 head as 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, etc. Usually, this would be
1.1, 2.1, 3.1, etc. as it is the first H1 tag. However, if you REALLY want
the first H1 to be 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, etc., you will need two styles:
First use: H:<$chapnum>. or H:<$chapnum>.
Following uses: H:<$chapnum>.
(Note: this can be handled automatically in the EDD if document is
structured.)

The  and  process continues for as many headings as you want. The
book files needs the numbering set to your preference. (The "H:" letter is
flexible but should have the same letter on all the headings.) Here is a
reference PDF for setting up book numbering and pagination:
http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/SettingFrameBookNumberingFrame.pdf

Other Notes:
Some people like to put all the place holders in each style and to set the
starting point as zero. It would look like this:
Chapter   H:<$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0> []
H1*  H:<$chapnum>.< >< > []
In my experience, both are these are unnecessary for typical Frame books.

Dave Creamer
IDEAS Training

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Re: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

[Rick Quatro]

Hi John,

Can we have a quick web meeting instead? It would be easier than packaging
up the book. Let me know what time and I will send you a meeting link. I am
on Eastern Standard Time. Thanks.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of John Posada
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 12:33 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

Hi Rick. Happy new year.

Two things...

1) I just bought one of your scrips; Delete Formats. I'll be installing
later today. In addition, when I have time, now that I'm in an environment
that isn't as locked down as when I was at HSBC Bank, I'm going to see what
else you got that I'll find handy.
2) I followed your explanation of advanced numbering that you sent to me
earlier. I'm not getting the results you describe or that I should. Would
you mind if I packaged up a part of my book and send to you to see what I'm
missing?

Thanks

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:39 AM Rick Quatro  wrote:

> http://frameautomation.com/framemaker-autonumber-primer/
> http://frameautomation.com/advanced-autonumber-concepts/
>
> You can probably go directly to the second video.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-729-6746
> www.frameexpert.com/store/
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> 
> On
> Behalf Of John Posada
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 9:28 AM
> To: FrameUsers List 
> Subject: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering
>
> OK...I give up.
>
> For 3 weeks, I'm trying to come up with a numbering system and I'm not 
> getting it right... its been 8 years since I needed to define styles 
> from scratch and I'm rusty. I need someone to point me in the right 
> direction and I'd even be a little appreciative.
>
> Here's what I'm trying for (where [] is the Heading Label:
>
> StyleName   How it looks
> Volume Volume 1 []
> ChapterChapter 1 []
> H11.0 []
> H21.1 []
> H31.1.1 []
> ChapterChapter 2 []
> H12.0 []
> H22.1 []
> H32.1.1 []
> ChapterChapter 3 []
> H13.0 []
> H23.1 []
> H33.1.1 []
>
> Volume Volume 2
> ChapterChapter 1 []
> H11.0 []
> H21.1 []
> H31.1.1 []
> ChapterChapter 2 []
> H12.0 []
> H22.1 []
> H32.1.1 []
> ChapterChapter 3 []
> H13.0 []
> H23.1 []
> H33.1.1 []
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

[Rick Quatro]

http://frameautomation.com/framemaker-autonumber-primer/
http://frameautomation.com/advanced-autonumber-concepts/

You can probably go directly to the second video.

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of John Posada
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 9:28 AM
To: FrameUsers List 
Subject: [Framers] FM2019 Volume and Chapter Numbering

OK...I give up.

For 3 weeks, I'm trying to come up with a numbering system and I'm not
getting it right... its been 8 years since I needed to define styles from
scratch and I'm rusty. I need someone to point me in the right direction and
I'd even be a little appreciative.

Here's what I'm trying for (where [] is the Heading Label:

StyleName   How it looks
Volume Volume 1 []
ChapterChapter 1 []
H11.0 []
H21.1 []
H31.1.1 []
ChapterChapter 2 []
H12.0 []
H22.1 []
H32.1.1 []
ChapterChapter 3 []
H13.0 []
H23.1 []
H33.1.1 []

Volume Volume 2
ChapterChapter 1 []
H11.0 []
H21.1 []
H31.1.1 []
ChapterChapter 2 []
H12.0 []
H22.1 []
H32.1.1 []
ChapterChapter 3 []
H13.0 []
H23.1 []
H33.1.1 []


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Re: [Framers] How to format source code in FM

[Rick Quatro]

Take a look at my TextFormatter script. You will have to set up a character
format for each of the colors you want to apply. You fill in a table with
your word/character format pairs and you can specify any paragraph formats
that you want to skip. Actually, in your case, it may be better to specify
the paragraph formats that you want to process. If you are interested, I may
be able to add this as an enhancement.

Rick

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Re: [Framers] How to format source code in FM

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Orly,

I would have to see the Markdown markup, but the best bet would probably be 
using structured FrameMaker. It would take some effort to set things up 
initially, but it could be a big timesaver in the long run. If you send me a 
before/after sample offlist, I will be glad to take a look at it. Thanks.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Orly Zimmerman
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:56 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] How to format source code in FM

HI All, I have a document in Markdown (md) that I was asked to convert to FM.  
I can do it quickly using wildcards,regexs and scripts.
All is fine and good, except when I get to source code. The source code is 
formatted extremely nicely and clearly (with different colors for commands, 
comments, etc and also with code line numbers) in the MD file. I can't come 
close to it in FM without using a fair share of different, newly created para 
and char tags, etc.This is extremely frustrating because I can take the text 
and simply plunk it into Notepad++ and it gets formatted properly depending on 
the language I choose. Perhaps there is a secret setting somewhere in FM, that 
FM can read this code and understand how to format it? and save me loads of 
time. I prefer not creating a JPG or BMP of the code - because then the info 
won't be searchable in the PDF. Many Thanks for any ideas :)Happy New Year!Orly 
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

[Rick Quatro]

That's why I will sometimes do free demos or prototypes or short videos of a 
similar script. Some managers have no clue about the bottlenecks that 
writers/editors run into, but when they see something take 30 seconds that used 
to take all week, they suddenly get interested.

 

From: A Craig  
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:54 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
; Rick Quatro 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

 

 

I've worked for many a "penny wise and pound foolish" employer over the years...

 

Alison

 

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From: "Rick Quatro" mailto:r...@rickquatro.com> >
To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 
mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December, 2019 08:29:35
Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

 

Speaking for myself, I say lazy and hard-headed. I can't stand doing "monkey
work." Automation has made work more tolerable and efficient for clients and
me. When a potential client tells me that they can't spend money on scripts,
I wonder if their managers know how much time and accuracy is lost through
doing repetitive tasks manually.

-Original Message-
From: Framers mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com> > On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:03 AM
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mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is
brilliantly self-correcting! ;)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com> > wrote:

> I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

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Speaking for myself, I say lazy and hard-headed. I can't stand doing "monkey
work." Automation has made work more tolerable and efficient for clients and
me. When a potential client tells me that they can't spend money on scripts,
I wonder if their managers know how much time and accuracy is lost through
doing repetitive tasks manually.

-Original Message-
From: Framers  On
Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:03 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

Lin, this proves that not only is FM really smart, but the FM community is
brilliantly self-correcting! ;)

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 7:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I take it back. You can do anything in Frame if you put your mind to it!
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Backup in different folder?

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I posted a free script that will do this for you on my blog. Any questions or 
comments are welcome.

http://frameautomation.com/automatic-backup-on-save/

Rick

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