Re: [Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
Thank you for updating it Jim! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Remitente:Jim Hall Destinatario: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. Fecha:viernes, 2 de julio de 2021, 22:55:48 Asunto: [Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio Archivos: --===-- > > >> Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio > > >> (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) > > >> is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while > > >> during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no > > >> shareware nags. They can be got from > > >> https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 3:42 PM Jim Hall wrote: > I didn't realize they had re-released as freeware (although I should > have, see below). I'll look at it and mirror that too. >[..] I've mirrored this release to the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio. I've put the previous "shareware but free" version under this path: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/shareware-free/ ..and I put the newer "freeware" version under this path: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/freeware/ I also updated the timestamps on the directories and files to reflect their actual dates. The readme.txt in shareware-free is an email sent on 17 Jun 1998, so I updated that file timestamp to that date, and updated the shareware-free directory timestamp to the newest file there (Dec 12 1998). And I updated the freeware/pacific.exe (and the freeware directory itself) to 20040215, the date from the Web Archive URL. Jim ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
> > >> Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio > > >> (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) > > >> is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while > > >> during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no > > >> shareware nags. They can be got from > > >> https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 3:42 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > I didn't realize they had re-released as freeware (although I should > have, see below). I'll look at it and mirror that too. >[..] I've mirrored this release to the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio. I've put the previous "shareware but free" version under this path: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/shareware-free/ ..and I put the newer "freeware" version under this path: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/freeware/ I also updated the timestamps on the directories and files to reflect their actual dates. The readme.txt in shareware-free is an email sent on 17 Jun 1998, so I updated that file timestamp to that date, and updated the shareware-free directory timestamp to the newest file there (Dec 12 1998). And I updated the freeware/pacific.exe (and the freeware directory itself) to 20040215, the date from the Web Archive URL. Jim ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 3:31 PM Steve Nickolas wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Jul 2021, tom ehlert wrote: > > > > >> Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio > >> (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) > >> is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while > >> during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no > >> shareware nags. They can be got from > >> https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe > > > > I didn't realize they had re-released as freeware (although I should have, see below). I'll look at it and mirror that too. Also in the same folder you pointed to is the readme file: https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/readme.txt This file is a copy of an email where Clyde Smith-Stubbs waived any registration fee. From that file: >Permission is hereby granted to use Pacific C for the FreeDOS project or >any other private or commercial use without payment of any fee. Pacific >C may be redistributed alone or with other software providing the complete >package is distributed and the copyright notices remain intact. > >A new version of Pacific C will be posted to our Web site soon, with the >shareware message removed, and a command line driver included. Until then, >the above permission will allow the use of the current version. Jim ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
On Fri, 2 Jul 2021, tom ehlert wrote: Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no shareware nags. They can be got from https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe so to summarize: nobody has cared about Pacific C or it's licensing for the last 20+ years. RIP Tom Two reasons. 1. Borland's freeware release of Turbo C 2.01 and later Turbo C++ 1.01, which had better C runtimes. 2. OpenWatcom, which had pretty much everything Borland did, and wasn't just freeware (though it needed a beefier host computer). -uso. ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
> Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio > (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) > is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while > during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no > shareware nags. They can be got from > https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe so to summarize: nobody has cared about Pacific C or it's licensing for the last 20+ years. RIP Tom ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio ( https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no shareware nags. They can be got from https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe - Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro https://www.javiergutierrezchamorro.com > ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Pacific C Shareware version at ibiblio
Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no shareware nags. They can be got from https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe - Javier Gutiérrez Chamorro http://www.javiergutierrezchamorro.com___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] Pacific C
Not sure if anyone will be concerned but just found that ibiblio (https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/pacific/) is mirroring the shareware version of Pacific C (circa 1998), while during 2000 they release the same version as freeware with no shareware nags. They can be got from https://web.archive.org/web/20040215154614/http://www1.htsoft.com:80/files/pacific/pacific.exe___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel