Re: Git to SVN
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:38 PM, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@thomersonfamily.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: In addition you can ask on wave-dev. They have finally decided to loose history and do an initial checkin because it was not easily possible to convert. Why are we doing this on any project when we potentially have a git solution around the corner? Why not add these projects to the git experiment and then only take this drastic action if the git experiment fails? Because it is an experiment, and putting lots of projects on it turns it into a real project before it is ready. At present, the work goes to the project to get its code into Apache. If they went to git, on failure, it would end up as infrastructure's work to migrate it. It needs to stay with just one project until that has reached the right level to take on more. Upayavira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Git to SVN
The ASF exists to produce software for the public good. Its software is its primary (only?) asset. Therefore, it needs to be in control of this asset, and that means being in control of the revision control tools used to maintain it. This means that whatever revision control is used, it must be managed by the Foundation. As to whether Git can be used, we have an experiment happening. Folks who want to see Git adopted can help with that experiment. Upayavira On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:49 PM, Leo Neumeyer leoneume...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious if you also discussed using a hosted service like GitHub for the projects. Seems to me that it would save us so much in resources and time to take advantage of their free accounts for open source projects and they seem to be doing a pretty good job. Perhaps there are concerns about relying on a third party but for an organization powered by volunteers, using a free service like this could be a great benefit. Perhaps there are good reasons why this cannot be done but was wondering if it was discussed at all. -leo On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Jeremy Thomerson jer...@thomersonfamily.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: In addition you can ask on wave-dev. They have finally decided to loose history and do an initial checkin because it was not easily possible to convert. Why are we doing this on any project when we potentially have a git solution around the corner? Why not add these projects to the git experiment and then only take this drastic action if the git experiment fails? This discussion was already held before a while. There are many questions to solve before. Cheers, Christian Jeremy Thomerson -- http://www.grobmeier.de -- Leo Neumeyer (@leoneu) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Suitable Names Search [WAS Re: Trademark Kill Searches...]
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: snip Unless anyone jumps in soon, I'll set up a Suitable Names Search JIRA project https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH Please jump in to fill out details and permissions. Improvements, suggestions, objections, welcomed. and break out some documentation into a new guide... I hope to start working on something to fill http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html soon unless someone jumps in with a better suggestion... Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator
+1 binding Regards, Alan On Nov 7, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Opemeetings proposal has been discussed a few times here before. The group of developers behind it worked hard (and succeeded) to address all potential obstacles to the Incubator acceptance and to the following incubation. They even went an extra mile and collected all ICLAs in adbvance. So now I am starting the vote to accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator. The proposal is also available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept Openmeetings for incubation [ ] +0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: The vote is open for 72 hours. Andrus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator
Ditto! On Nov 10, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: +1 binding Regards, Alan On Nov 7, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Opemeetings proposal has been discussed a few times here before. The group of developers behind it worked hard (and succeeded) to address all potential obstacles to the Incubator acceptance and to the following incubation. They even went an extra mile and collected all ICLAs in adbvance. So now I am starting the vote to accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator. The proposal is also available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept Openmeetings for incubation [ ] +0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: The vote is open for 72 hours. Andrus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator
+1 (non-binding) Twitter :http://www.twitter.com/m_cucchiara G+ :https://plus.google.com/107903711540963855921 Linkedin :http://www.linkedin.com/in/mauriziocucchiara Maurizio Cucchiara - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator
+1 (non-binding) -Original Message- From: Andrus Adamchik [mailto:and...@objectstyle.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:54 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator Opemeetings proposal has been discussed a few times here before. The group of developers behind it worked hard (and succeeded) to address all potential obstacles to the Incubator acceptance and to the following incubation. They even went an extra mile and collected all ICLAs in adbvance. So now I am starting the vote to accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator. The proposal is also available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Accept Openmeetings for incubation [ ] +0 Don't care [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason: The vote is open for 72 hours. Andrus --- Andrus Adamchik Apache Cayenne ORM: http://cayenne.apache.org/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/andrus_a --- == OpenMeetings Project Proposal == == Abstract == Openmeetings is a web conferencing solution. == Proposal == Openmeetings provides video conferencing, instant messaging, white board, collaborative document editing and other groupware tools using API functions of the Red5 Streaming Server for Remoting and Streaming. == Background == Openmeetings was developed since 2007 by Sebastian Wagner and willing developers. The project ships a release approximately once per quarter. It was developed using LGPL license, and developers are currently thinking of re-licensing it under Apache License 2.0. The project started as module by Sebastian Wagner for an ELearning platform (Dokeos) and was then split into a separated project. That is the reason why there is a strong relation to educational institutions that are using OpenMeetings and there are integrations for platforms like Moodle, ATutor, Sakai, STudIP or ILias available (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/MoodlePlugins). The relation to educational institutions also subsequently lead to some projects funded by the EU where OpenMeetings was involved, for example by the Swedish/Finnish Centre of Open-Source !OpenKarken (Case-Study about the EU project at OSOR.eu: http://www.osor.eu/studies/finland-and-sweden- collaborate-using-oss ) The integration and internationalization of the project was a primary focus right from the start of the project. Since Version 0.5 there is a Language-Editor (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/LanguageEditor) to edit labels, export and import them as XML and you can use those XML files for future installations (or contribute it to the community). There are currently around 30 languages available. Since version 0.5.1 there is also a SOAP API to integrate !OpenMeetings. We constantly improve this SOAP/REST API (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/SoapMethods) with new functionality with a strong focus on security and usability. The auth-mechnism is quite similar to OAuth, you create some token and then assign rights to the token. (Documentation for Single Sign On: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/DirectLoginSoapGeneralFlow) The project name !OpenMeetings and logos are inspired by Ludovic Gasc who has been the project manager at Dokeos at the time Sebastian split !OpenMeetings as separated project. Red5 Server provides an Edge-Orion-Clustering (http://trac.red5.org/wiki/Documentation/Tutorials/EdgeOriginClusteringCon figuration). We hope to extend this clustering solution with support for rtmpt and rtmps and integrate that into our application as native clustering option. == Rationale == Last year most major vendors started commercial web conferencing solutions. This is an important part of software ecosystem, and there is an urge to consolidate open source development efforts in this direction. According to several studies demand for synchronous Communication, in opposite to asynchronous Communication like wiki's or email, will raise the upcoming years. For example Gartner promises that 2011 the market will grow 20% according to their Magic Quadrant report 2010 ( http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=205941 ). Openmeetings is a unique solution in terms of patent purity and potentially can grow into solution built on top of the fully open source stack. That is why it is a good candidate for consolidating web conferencing community efforts. == Initial Goals == Each of project committers has their own set of goals, but we all share the following. * Move to Apache. * Become popular. To become popular we plan to do the following. * Improve ecosystem around the project. * Improve release process. * Improve project testing and stability. * Apply modular architecture/SOA for better integration with other projects. == Current Status == We have agreed on applying for the Apache Foundation and preparing our proposal for the vote. Technical status of the project is: Current stable tree is 1.8.x, Trunk is 1.9. ===
Latest copyright sign-off status [Was: Podlings needing copyright sign-off]
Updating this, half of the items without sign-off in July are now signed off. I've updated the list below (though I've not yet added new PMCs since June). Here's the previous email: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a list of the projects in the Incubator who need to sign off their copyright item; namely: Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core code, and any new code produced by the project. Here's the latest list: 2008-09-29 olio 2009-02-09 kato 2009-02-13 stonehenge 2009-05-08 ace 2009-05-13 socialsite 2009-06-25 wink 2009-11-08 hise 2010-01-27 manifoldcf 2010-05-19 amber 2010-05-24 zetacomponents 2010-09-05 nuvem 2010-11-02 celix 2010-11-12 kitty 2010-11-24 stanbol 2010-12-02 jena 2010-12-02 opennlp 2011-06-13 openofficeorg Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Retire Olio [Was: Retire Olio?]
Coming back to this. It unfortunately seems that there's no (even optimistic) expectation that Olio will graduate. So, voting: [ ] +1 [ ] -1, no because... Hen On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:27 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 8/17/2011 12:47 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 8/17/2011 12:37 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: The copyright item isn't signed off at https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html. So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote). Where are the mentors? Wondering how conflicted-providence IP would hit svn in the first place. Digging a bit: Initial Olio code dump from Sun by clr. r700550 Added rails webapp by wsobel. r705828 Adding Web20Emulator by sheetal. r706388 There were other large adds, but those were the three initial big ones. I don't see any software grants relating to Olio. I see lots in the board reports about struggling to get committer diversity because the committers were at 3 corporations. I don't believe that conflicted-providence IP would have hit svn, yet if it's not signed off and (assuming no one steps up to say otherwise) I think delete is the only option we have. Agreed. Unless the mentors can check off that checkbox prior to the project's dormancy, svn will need to be rm'ed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Retire Olio [Was: Retire Olio?]
+1 (binding) On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Coming back to this. It unfortunately seems that there's no (even optimistic) expectation that Olio will graduate. So, voting: [ ] +1 [ ] -1, no because... Hen On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:27 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 8/17/2011 12:47 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 8/17/2011 12:37 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: The copyright item isn't signed off at https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html. So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote). Where are the mentors? Wondering how conflicted-providence IP would hit svn in the first place. Digging a bit: Initial Olio code dump from Sun by clr. r700550 Added rails webapp by wsobel. r705828 Adding Web20Emulator by sheetal. r706388 There were other large adds, but those were the three initial big ones. I don't see any software grants relating to Olio. I see lots in the board reports about struggling to get committer diversity because the committers were at 3 corporations. I don't believe that conflicted-providence IP would have hit svn, yet if it's not signed off and (assuming no one steps up to say otherwise) I think delete is the only option we have. Agreed. Unless the mentors can check off that checkbox prior to the project's dormancy, svn will need to be rm'ed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Retire Olio [Was: Retire Olio?]
+1 (binding) -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://wwx.talend.com - Reply message - From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Retire Olio [Was: Retire Olio?] Date: Thu, Nov 10, 2011 5:33 pm +1 (binding) On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Henri Yandell flame...@gmail.com wrote: Coming back to this. It unfortunately seems that there's no (even optimistic) expectation that Olio will graduate. So, voting: [ ] +1 [ ] -1, no because... Hen On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:27 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 8/17/2011 12:47 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 8/17/2011 12:37 AM, Henri Yandell wrote: The copyright item isn't signed off at https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html. So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote). Where are the mentors? Wondering how conflicted-providence IP would hit svn in the first place. Digging a bit: Initial Olio code dump from Sun by clr. r700550 Added rails webapp by wsobel. r705828 Adding Web20Emulator by sheetal. r706388 There were other large adds, but those were the three initial big ones. I don't see any software grants relating to Olio. I see lots in the board reports about struggling to get committer diversity because the committers were at 3 corporations. I don't believe that conflicted-providence IP would have hit svn, yet if it's not signed off and (assuming no one steps up to say otherwise) I think delete is the only option we have. Agreed. Unless the mentors can check off that checkbox prior to the project's dormancy, svn will need to be rm'ed. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Git to SVN
Hi Leo, what you are looking for is 'grafting' the master branch of your current git repo into subversion via git-svn. This blog post[1] helped me a lot when I was doing the same for Deltacloud. David [1] http://journal.sandesh247.com/2009/06/importing-git-history-into-new-svn.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org