[gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
* Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 07:15]: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: I find it hard to believe that this is the problem. You say that you can use utf8 when you are composing (or writing some other stuff), right? What are the values of 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' in vim when replying? Moshe pgp9ih1XLnlC9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] confusing RE doesn't work in diff
Mariusz Pękala wrote: On 2005-07-25 17:50:37 +0800 (Mon, Jul), Zhang Weiwu wrote: My RE must be wrong but I can hardly successfully match a whole line like the below example: This works: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ egrep \b*\/[*].*[*]\/\b* Calendar.php /* $Id: class.boalarm.inc.php,v 1.1.1.1 2005/03/18 09:17:36 dawnlinux Exp $ */ /* $Id: class.boalarm.inc.php,v 1.11 2004/05/23 14:51:27 ralfbecker Exp $ */ This doesn't work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ egrep ^\b*\/[*].*[*]\/\b*$ Calendar.php any hint? man grep: The symbol \b matches the empty string at the edge of a word It seems that '/' is not considered to be a part of a word. I suppose you may use ^[[:space:]]*/[*].*[*]/[[:space:]]*$ Calendar.php Thank you! Your RE suggested does work and I discovered this [[:space:]] pretty useful. I missed it in man grep. However there is another strange behavor. This works: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ cat header.inc.php ?php /* $Id: header.inc.php.template,v 1.58 2005/07/08 05:00:14 milosch Exp $ */ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ grep ^[[:space:]]*/[*].*[*]/[[:space:]]*$ header.inc.php /* $Id: header.inc.php.template,v 1.58 2005/07/08 05:00:14 milosch Exp $ */ And this doesn't work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ :empty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ diff -I ^[[:space:]]*/[*].*[*]/[[:space:]]*$ header.inc.php empty 1,2d0 ?php /* $Id: header.inc.php.template,v 1.58 2005/07/08 05:00:14 milosch Exp $ */ in man it's being said, -I RE --ignore-matching-lines=RE Ignore changes whose lines all match RE. I read man grep and it seems there are two sets of RE, extended and basic. But it's not mensioned in diff(1) wheather or not diff(1) takes extended or basic RE. I am using Debian so it should be gnu diff. Any thing more to teach me? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem using genkernel
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:36:23 +0200, Waldemar Tribus wrote: Why? If you are comfortable with configuring your kernel by hand, why give up control of the process to a tool that is known to cause problems for many people? Just wanted to follow gentoo 2.4 to 2.6 migration guide, to avoid stipud error which i could make if i would do it by myself :) In my experience, it's easier to fix your own stupid errors than those made by an automated system... -- Neil Bothwick Would a fly without wings be called a walk? pgpAk2hG8DGx1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] confusing RE doesn't work in diff
Zhang Weiwu wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ diff -I ^[[:space:]]*/[*].*[*]/[[:space:]]*$ header.inc.php empty 1,2d0 ?php /* $Id: header.inc.php.template,v 1.58 2005/07/08 05:00:14 milosch Exp $ */ in man it's being said, -I RE --ignore-matching-lines=RE Ignore changes whose lines all match RE. I read man grep and it seems there are two sets of RE, extended and basic. But it's not mensioned in diff(1) wheather or not diff(1) takes extended or basic RE. I am using Debian so it should be gnu diff. If it's not mentioned, it possibly uses basic regular expressions. try: $ diff -I '/\* \$Id.*\$ \*/' header.inc.php empty Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: keys that don't create keycodes
* Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 09:10]: I have a couple of them! I've tried all the usual ways of detecting them - xev and others that do a similar thing but they just don't register as keypresses in any standard way. did you try lineak (it's in portage)? I think there are others, maybe more advanced. http://lineak.sourceforge.net/ Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
050727 Richard Fish wrote: Fernando Canizo wrote: $ ldd `which vim` | grep curses libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7f98000) $ ldd `which mutt` | grep curses libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f8f000) I too use Mutt + Vim -- ie Gvim -- sometimes Vim + UTF8 (not with Mutt) I never have problems. However, my Mutt doesn't seem to use Curses : root: log ldd `which vim` | grep curses libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7f9a000) root: log ldd `which mutt` | grep curses root: log emerge -pv mutt ... [ebuild R ] mail-client/mutt-1.5.8-r2 -buffysize -cjk +crypt -imap -mbox -nls -nntp -sasl +slang +ssl -vanilla -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 01:12:23AM -0300, Fernando Canizo wrote: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: It won't matter for vim. vim is a termcap application, and is doing the interpretation of locales by itself. The distinction between ncurses and ncursesw only applies to curses applications. (ncurses provides low-level interfaces for termcap and terminfo applications). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpzFJhxYDQxj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 07:08:27AM +0200, Richard Fish me decía: Fernando Canizo wrote: I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, [snip] Hmm, tough one. I don't see any way to configure vim specifically for ncursesw. Your best bet may be to try and fake out the dynamic linker and tell it to use libncursesw instead of libncurses for vim. ln -s /lib/libncursesw.so.5 /etc/vim/libncurses.so.5 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/etc/vim ldd /usr/bin/vim LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/etc/vim vim If vim seems sane, then exporting LD_LIBRARY_PATH before starting mutt should resolve the problem (assuming that the problem really is in the type of ncurses...) Thanks Richard, but didn't work. And now i'm not so sure that this could ve the problem, after all i can create some file without problem in vim, put some accents and view ok after, and file says it's utf-8. I'll gonna rephrase my problem giving more info. -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar Maybe I should just cut my losses, give up on Lisa, and make a fresh start with Maggie. -- Homer Simpson Lisa's Pony -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 04:38:42AM -0400, Philip Webb me decía: 050727 Richard Fish wrote: Fernando Canizo wrote: $ ldd `which vim` | grep curses libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7f98000) $ ldd `which mutt` | grep curses libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb7f8f000) I too use Mutt + Vim -- ie Gvim -- sometimes Vim + UTF8 (not with Mutt) I never have problems. However, my Mutt doesn't seem to use Curses : root: log ldd `which vim` | grep curses libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0xb7f9a000) root: log ldd `which mutt` | grep curses root: log emerge -pv mutt ... [ebuild R ] mail-client/mutt-1.5.8-r2 -buffysize -cjk +crypt -imap -mbox -nls -nntp -sasl +slang +ssl -vanilla Yes, i have it that way before, and the same problem. But then i see the mutt FAQ (http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttFaq/Charset) which says: Default Slang seems not to work with UTF-8, relink Mutt against libncursesw. (Hello Gentoo users :-) So, maybe this is an old issue, but the first step i choose to do was to relink to ncurses and give up slang, that way i don't have to keep an eye on versions and stuff, in fact only mutt was using slang on my system, so nothing is missed. Besides, the problem already was there when using slang. -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar panic (Splunge!); linux-2.2.16/drivers/scsi/psi240i.c -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
friend David, first of all thank you very much for your co-operation. so i don't want to try out MASKED cinelerra video editor. you tell me to use the best one. On 7/27/05, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call productionready and feature wise it can not replace Premier.However if youwant to test it out see the following link for instructions on how touse portage and correctly deal with masked packages. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_CorrectlyIn short you can do the following and then emerge normally.echo media-video/cinelerra ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords --DavidOn 7/26/05, simply change [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AybOwan! (=welcome) dear lu_zero,im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux. -- ... The future lies ahead.___ Have you mooed today? --- \^__^ \ (oo) \___(__) \ )\/\ ||--w| || || Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- ...The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? ---\^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\||--w||| ||Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
Re: [gentoo-user] how to deploy a video lab?
friend nick, mainActor wants a serial no to work without the watermark sign. so anything have to...On 7/27/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:better still install main actor. heres how I did it:1. Go to http://mainconcept.com and download the SuSE rpm. The file Idownloaded is mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm2. emerge rpm if it is not already on your system3. install mainactor:rpm -Uvh --nodeps mainactor-5.5.7-suse_9.3.i686.rpm4. run the binary:mactor5. There is a good manual for downloading in pdf format. It is worthreading. There are also support forums.This is a closed source package, but it is IMHO very good. It will work as per a licensed copy except it renders a message on your videowhen doing final rendering. You can therefore get a good idea of what itdoes, without the normal shareware die after 30 days or render only up to two minutes nonsense. The license is EUR177/USD199. Not supercheap, but there is not a lot of choice of good video editing softwareon linux.kino is quite good, but limited in the file formats it will handle, basically dv (ie as captured from a digital video camera). it willrender to other formats, but will only import a rather limited range.cinelerra should be good but is almost document-less.avidemux is a good front end for basic cutting of scenes and trancoding to other formats, but doesn't have any ability to add effects or transitions,so is not a real video editor of the sort you want. Its good forbringing in a video track (eg recorded tv), cutting out the bits you don't want (ads, start finish overlap, sex etc) and then rendering tosomething like xvid, although it will render toDVD compatible mpeg2too. You may want to present clients with well mastered dvd's once you have edited the scenes and added transitions and a soundtrack. I know thatsome winders products offer a suite which does everything from DV camera importthrough to burning the DVD. The linux approach will require more mix and match, especially putting together DVD menus and stuff which willrequire a tool like dvdstyler.I have successfully used dvdstyler to makedvd's of family movies, recorded TV etc complete with menus.One thing to note too is that there is a bit of a trend for cameras to take mpeg or avi files instead of the more tradition digital video camDV format, It would pay to make sure that you will be able to use yourraw material in whatever software you decide to use. There are all sorts of possibilities for transcoding stuff to a usable format before youedit it, but the more steps you put in the process the more quality youcan lose.On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:44:46 -0400David Miller wrote: Last time I tried Cinelerra it was not what I would call production ready and feature wise it can not replace Premier.However if you want to test it out see the following link for instructions on how to use portage and correctly deal with masked packages. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly In short you can do the following and then emerge normally. echo media-video/cinelerra ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords -- David On 7/26/05, simply change [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AybOwan! (=welcome) dear lu_zero, im a Sinhalease from Sri lanka. i have a small company here in lanka (video filming company ex:- wedding, parties filming). my editing tools are Adobe Premeir,after effect, etc like propriatary software.so now i want to fully migrate to Gentoo Linux. today i just try to emerge Cinelerra to my Gentoo box but it has been Masked. so friends please be kind enought to advice me to setting up a full professional video lab using Gentoo Linux. -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? --- \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ ||--w| || || Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1# -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list--Nick RoutBarrister Solicitor ChristchurchContact details at http://www.rout.co.nz[EMAIL PROTECTED]--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- ...The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? ---\^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\||--w||| ||Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working
_MY_ mouse is not going to be thrown in the trash... I did find that on Knoppyx 3.2 the mouse work properly and I can cat /dev/proc/psaux with some jibberish on mouse moving. So, what's the solution S.G. -- You can't learn what you think you know. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Error Emerging Liferea 0.9.2
Ow Mun Heng wrote: ui_feedlist.o(.text+0x227d): In function `ui_feedlist_dbus_connect': : undefined reference to `dbus_bus_acquire_service' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [liferea-bin] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/mnt/data/Gentoo-Tmp/portage/liferea-0.9.2/work/liferea-0.9.2/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/data/Gentoo-Tmp/portage/liferea-0.9.2/work/liferea-0.9.2/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/data/Gentoo-Tmp/portage/liferea-0.9.2/work/liferea-0.9.2' ANy ideas? Are you using dbus from the gentopia overlay? I've noticed that many apps are not compatible with the newer versions of dbus. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:04:29AM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky me decía: * Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 07:15]: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: I find it hard to believe that this is the problem. You say that you can use utf8 when you are composing (or writing some other stuff), right? What are the values of 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' in vim when replying? Moshe Like i said to Richard, maybe you're right. I mean: i can write an utf-8 file from scratch using vim alone, so why would not when invoking vim from mutt? Maybe is that mutt is telling vim something incorrect when they communicate. Well, i'll give more information, but this gonna grow large ;) Reading the mutt FAQ (http://wiki.mutt.org/index.cgi?MuttFaq/Charset) and checking everything is ok: locale seems to be ok: ~$ locale LANG=es_AR.utf-8 LC_CTYPE=es_AR.utf-8 LC_NUMERIC=es_AR.utf-8 LC_TIME=es_AR.utf-8 LC_COLLATE=es_AR.utf-8 LC_MONETARY=es_AR.utf-8 LC_MESSAGES=es_AR.utf-8 LC_PAPER=es_AR.utf-8 LC_NAME=es_AR.utf-8 LC_ADDRESS=es_AR.utf-8 LC_TELEPHONE=es_AR.utf-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=es_AR.utf-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_AR.utf-8 LC_ALL=es_AR.utf-8 the locales settings are supported: ~$ locale -a C es_AR es_AR.utf8 POSIX checking if the locales work with perl: ~$ perl -e ok doesn't show anything checking if perl is doing the right things by setting an erroneous locale: ~$ env LC_ALL=nocharset perl -e perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = es_AR.utf-8, LC_ALL = nocharset, LC_CTYPE = es_AR.utf-8, LANG = es_AR.utf-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). ok, it cries, so it's working ok my ~/.signature is in utf-8, my ~/.alias is too i got this in my ~/.vimrc: set encoding=utf-8 set fileencoding=utf-8 set termencoding=utf-8 and when mutt invokes vim i re-check that this is ok, and is ok (i mean i check in runtime and it obbeys the configuration) i got this in my ~/.muttrc: set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8 set charset=utf-8 set locale=es_AR.utf8 from the mutt man i know this settings should not be necessary, since the system is configured ok, but i try with and without and get no difference. Ok, that's all concerning configuration. Now i tell you how the problem works: in mutt, if i compose a mail from scratch, without anything, not even signature, and put a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (got that name from unicode chart), and then send it to myself, and to a friend, my friend sees it ok and i too. But if now i reply to this same mail, when vim comes with the quoted text that mutt passes to it y see garbage. So mutt is ok seeing and sending utf-8, vim is ok writing and reading utf-8, but when both cooperate, things get screwed. I investigate what was in the archives, so i saved a copy (using 'C' command from mutt) of the first message (the one i receive from me) and file says: 'UTF-8 Unicode mail text', check what's inside with hexedit and see that LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE is encoded with this hex: C3 A1 (which is not 00 E1 from unicode chart from http://www.unicode.org/charts/) Then i got that same mail and press 'r' from mutt to respond, comes vim with garbled text, and without touching anything i save it under some other name, and then cancel message, file in this saved text gives me: 'UTF-8 Unicode text', but when i see inside with hexedit, i got this hex for the same letter: C3 83 C2 A1, so now i have 4 bytes instead of the too before. So vim-mutt (?) is re-encoding the stuff. Like i said before, checking in vim when called from mutt for enc, and fenc gives utf-8 like it should. I create a file with vim to check this differences with the unicode chart and i got C3 A1 too, so maybe the problem is with vim, it should put 00 E1 for LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE. Well, that's all i remember to have done for this problem. I'm with this for 4 months now, i think, i took the problem, get tired of searching and testing stuff, leave for a month, get to charge again, and so on. But now i really want to solve it. I think i'm going to crosspost this to vim and mutt mailing lists. But if someone here knows how to solve this, i appreciate any help, tip, direction to look or search, or maybe praying would do the job. Linking after build vim to libncursesw the way Richard say a couple of mails before didn't solve it. If there is a way to say to emerge that link vim to this library from the beginning i would like to try it. Besides if anyone knows how to get which programs are using a library (i have done it before, but at this time my
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 05:59:53AM -0400, Thomas Dickey me decía: On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 01:12:23AM -0300, Fernando Canizo wrote: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: It won't matter for vim. vim is a termcap application, and is doing the interpretation of locales by itself. The distinction between ncurses and ncursesw only applies to curses applications. (ncurses provides low-level interfaces for termcap and terminfo applications). But vim is linked against libncurses, doesn't make it a 'curses application' ? -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar QOTD: There may be no excuse for laziness, but I'm sure looking. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
Hi, * Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 14:14]: El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:04:29AM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky me decía: * Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 07:15]: Hi all. I'm having trouble with my encoding using mutt + vim + utf-8, basically mi emails are sent with wrong encoding when *replying*. I've tracked the problem, searched, readed FAQs and i found that maybe my problem is this: that while mutt is linked to libncursesw (wide library) vim is to libncurses (normal), this is the output of ldd: I find it hard to believe that this is the problem. You say that you can use utf8 when you are composing (or writing some other stuff), right? What are the values of 'encoding' and 'fileencoding' in vim when replying? Moshe Like i said to Richard, maybe you're right. I mean: i can write an utf-8 file from scratch using vim alone, so why would not when invoking vim from mutt? Maybe is that mutt is telling vim something incorrect when they communicate. Well, i'll give more information, but this gonna grow large ;) [snip] checking if the locales work with perl: ~$ perl -e ok doesn't show anything That's one use of perl I never thought about :) checking if perl is doing the right things by setting an erroneous locale: ~$ env LC_ALL=nocharset perl -e perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = es_AR.utf-8, LC_ALL = nocharset, LC_CTYPE = es_AR.utf-8, LANG = es_AR.utf-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). ok, it cries, so it's working ok my ~/.signature is in utf-8, my ~/.alias is too i got this in my ~/.vimrc: set encoding=utf-8 set fileencoding=utf-8 Please try removing this setting, then check the value after vim reads the file (when you reply). Vim sets this option when editing an existing file according to what it thinks the encoding of the file to be. Also, you might want to try something like :e ++enc=utf-8 file This will force vim to read this file as a utf-8 file. Also, what is the value of 'fileencodings'? set termencoding=utf-8 and when mutt invokes vim i re-check that this is ok, and is ok (i mean i check in runtime and it obbeys the configuration) i got this in my ~/.muttrc: set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8 Might want to try just utf-8, but I don't think it will matter. set charset=utf-8 set locale=es_AR.utf8 from the mutt man i know this settings should not be necessary, since the system is configured ok, but i try with and without and get no difference. Ok, that's all concerning configuration. Now i tell you how the problem works: in mutt, if i compose a mail from scratch, without anything, not even signature, and put a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (got that name from unicode chart), and then send it to myself, and to a friend, my friend sees it ok and i too. But if now i reply to this same mail, when vim comes with the quoted text that mutt passes to it y see garbage. Can you include one of this characters in your reply? So mutt is ok seeing and sending utf-8, vim is ok writing and reading utf-8, but when both cooperate, things get screwed. I investigate what was in the archives, so i saved a copy (using 'C' command from mutt) of the first message (the one i receive from me) and file says: 'UTF-8 Unicode mail text', check what's inside with hexedit and see that LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE is encoded with this hex: C3 A1 (which is not 00 E1 from unicode chart from http://www.unicode.org/charts/) I think this is just the way these characters are represented in utf-8. Moshe pgpJzPzJfarsh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] I thought /etc/X11/xorg.conf was set in stone
That's good to know. I had missed that part of it. So far it just worked G. From: George Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/07/26 Tue PM 11:28:41 EDT To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I thought /etc/X11/xorg.conf was set in stone According to the man xorg.conf the search paths are different depending who is starting X. If X is started by a user the search paths are not as extensive as if X is started by root. If root was the one to start X then it could be able to pick up the xorg.conf I had stashed in the / folder. The sudden switch from my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /xorg.conf is what triggered my confusion. Brett I. Holcomb wrote: My understanding is that X searches the path given in xorg.conf irregardless of who starts it but I may be wrong. I use xdm, not gdm. On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, George Roberts wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Check man xorg.conf and it will give you the locations searched for xorg.conf. On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, George Roberts wrote: I have noticed in the last couple days that rolling the wheel on my mouse is Snip I was under the impression that the folder /etc/X11is the folder only scanned and used. That is why I put the backup copy there. My question Thanks Thanks, it seems the system searchs farther than I understood. Based on what I have read on gdm, the X server is started by a non-privliged user, to avoid possiblities of exploition of the system via the login area. If this is in fact true then the search for the xorg.conf file would be limited to the /usr or /etc folders, not the / folder. Does there need to be an update to the man file, or is this a undocumented feature? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:11:05AM -0300, Fernando Canizo wrote: But vim is linked against libncurses, doesn't make it a 'curses application' ? no. A curses application calls initscr() or newterm(), uses the curses library to perform optimized display updates. A termcap application calls tgetent(), and uses tputs() or tgoto() to write strings directly to the display. Since vim is a termcap application, you could in principle link it with libtermcap without seeing any difference in vim's functionality. There are some applications that can be configured (compiled) for any of these interfaces: termcap terminfo curses (ncurses) ncursesw tin and vile do this, for example. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpN9nQMVZTS9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
On 7/27/05, Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * Fernando Canizo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/05 14:14]: snip I investigate what was in the archives, so i saved a copy (using 'C' command from mutt) of the first message (the one i receive from me) and file says: 'UTF-8 Unicode mail text', check what's inside with hexedit and see that LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE is encoded with this hex: C3 A1 (which is not 00 E1 from unicode chart from http://www.unicode.org/charts/) I think this is just the way these characters are represented in utf-8. Yes, it is. 00E1 hex is '000 1111' in binary. When encoding this as UTF-8 this value is stored in two bytes. The last byte will begin with '10' followed by the last 6 bits of data. '10 11' binary or 'A1' in hex. The first byte will begin with '110' to indicate that it is a two byte character followed by the remaining significant data. '110 00011' binary or 'C3' hex. This is correct. The problem seem to be that mutt(?) takes this UTF-8 encoded data and encodes as UTF-8 again as if the data was two 8 bit characters. 'C3' then becomes 'C3 83' and 'A1' becomes 'C2 A1' /Andreas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM restarts citing lderror: missing pam_console.so after running et
Oddly enough, if I run et like this et et.log 21 it runs fine and gdm does not restart itself. heres a snip from the log at least where I *think* it was failing before... it tries to run a tty console which pam does not like, why? --- Common Initialization Complete --- Opening IP socket: localhost:27960 Hostname: dsotm IP: 127.0.0.1 Started tty console (use +set ttycon 0 to disable) thnx, chris Chris Fairles wrote: Ran a emerge -NDuva world, updated a bunch of gnome stuff. gnome-base/gnome-2.10-r1 and deps and gnome-base/gdm-2.6.0.9-r2 Launching et (enemey territory) gives (in /var/log/messages) Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_console.so) Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_console.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_console.so Jul 26 22:58:15 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[23200]: session opened for user chris by (uid=0) Jul 26 22:58:23 dsotm su(pam_unix)[23301]: session opened for user root by (uid=1000) Jul 26 23:00:35 dsotm su(pam_unix)[23301]: session closed for user root Jul 26 23:00:39 dsotm gdm[23200]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Jul 26 23:00:39 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[23200]: session closed for user chris gdm restarts no game I've tried commenting out all of dsotm ~ # grep console /etc/pam.d/* /etc/pam.d/gdm:session optional /lib/security/pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin:session optional /lib/security/pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/xdm:session optional pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/xserver:# Next line you need console ownership to be able to start X /etc/pam.d/xserver:#auth required pam_console.so restarting gdm, even rebooting, same error as above. tried setting USE=pam_console emerge -Nva pam ... adding the login pam_console, uncommenting all of the above lines, i just get the Jul 26 22:41:05 dsotm gdm[8000]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 i'm almost ready to USE=-pam emerge -e world ... chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Copying contents /boot from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to move (or copy) the complete contents of /boot located on /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2. If so would anyone know the correct command so I pick up any hidden files ,etc. -- Thanks, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 25/07/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:45:27PM +0300, Moshe Kaminsky me dec�a: i got this in my ~/.vimrc: set encoding=utf-8 set fileencoding=utf-8 Please try removing this setting, then check the value after vim reads the file (when you reply). Vim sets this option when editing an existing file according to what it thinks the encoding of the file to be. Also, you might want to try something like A-jh�! I remove those settings from mi ~/.vimrc and when replying to a mail that contains utf-8 (some mail that i sent myself) i get: encoding=utf-8 but: fileencoding=latin1 So, mutt is showing correctly an utf-8 mail, but when it creates the quoted mail for reply in /tmp is giving vim a recoded file. I think... is that? So, what's happening here? :e ++enc=utf-8 file don't know how to use this from the call from mutt This will force vim to read this file as a utf-8 file. Also, what is the value of 'fileencodings'? fileencodings=ucs-bom,utf-8,latin1,default i already have tried with fileencodings=utf-8 only and the problem stays. i got this in my ~/.muttrc: set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8 Might want to try just utf-8, but I don't think it will matter. Oh, no, i already tried it, i put before: set send_charset=utf-8 set send_charset=us-ascii:iso-8859-1:utf-8 and the problem stays too. Ok, that's all concerning configuration. Now i tell you how the problem works: in mutt, if i compose a mail from scratch, without anything, not even signature, and put a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE (got that name from unicode chart), and then send it to myself, and to a friend, my friend sees it ok and i too. But if now i reply to this same mail, when vim comes with the quoted text that mutt passes to it y see garbage. Can you include one of this characters in your reply? Yes! In the next line a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE: � But you should see that ok, now if i reply to that message, when it reaches me through the list, i will send this stuff: á which seems to be (not sure about this) the codification of the two bytes of the LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE but un latin1. Why is that? I don't know. I investigate what was in the archives, so i saved a copy (using 'C' command from mutt) of the first message (the one i receive from me) and file says: 'UTF-8 Unicode mail text', check what's inside with hexedit and see that LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE is encoded with this hex: C3 A1 (which is not 00 E1 from unicode chart from http://www.unicode.org/charts/) I think this is just the way these characters are represented in utf-8. Yes it is. I were looking at the worng charts, the same was said to me in the vim list. -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar Jacquin's Postulate on Democratic Government: No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:39:58PM +0200, Andreas Claesson me dec�a: The problem seem to be that mutt(?) takes this UTF-8 encoded data and encodes as UTF-8 again as if the data was two 8 bit characters. 'C3' then becomes 'C3 83' and 'A1' becomes 'C2 A1' Yes!, yes! something like that is happening (maybe is re-encoding in latin1, but you seem to be the master of encodings, so sure i'm wrong with this), but i don't know what to do about. -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar See you in hell, candy boys!! -- Homer Simpson Homer Badman -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with esound
Martin Larsson wrote: I'm running an emerge -avDu world, and portage wants to upgrade my esound to 0.2.36-r1 (from 0.2.34). However, this creates an error: jw -f docbook -b html -o html ./esound.sgml Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-3.1.cat Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.12/docbook-utils.dsl#html Working on: /var/tmp/portage/esound-0.2.36-r1/work/esound-0.2.36/docs/./esound.sgml jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [html/index.html] Error 8 Which should be right, as the only libosp I have is libosp.so.4. Trying to emerge docbook-sgml-utils (for jw) gives the same result. Could this have something with me upgrading to gcc-3.4.4 from gcc-3.3.4 the other day? If so, what do I need to re-emerge? M. try revdep-rebuild. -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with esound
Martin Larsson wrote: I'm running an emerge -avDu world, and portage wants to upgrade my esound to 0.2.36-r1 (from 0.2.34). However, this creates an error: jw -f docbook -b html -o html ./esound.sgml Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-3.1.cat Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.12/docbook-utils.dsl#html Working on: /var/tmp/portage/esound-0.2.36-r1/work/esound-0.2.36/docs/./esound.sgml jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [html/index.html] Error 8 Which should be right, as the only libosp I have is libosp.so.4. Trying to emerge docbook-sgml-utils (for jw) gives the same result. Could this have something with me upgrading to gcc-3.4.4 from gcc-3.3.4 the other day? If so, what do I need to re-emerge? M. try revdep-rebuild. its in app-portage/gentoolkit. -- [Name ] :: [Matan I. Peled] [Location ] :: [Israel] [Public Key] :: [0xD6F42CA5] [Keyserver ] :: [keyserver.kjsl.com] encrypted/signed plain text preferred signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying contents /boot from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2
Well, if not sure about the syntax, why don't you just use midnight commander? Although i do not quite understand what you are saying: (copy from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2) - do you mean,: copy from /dev/hdb1 that is mounted on /mountpoint1 to /dev/hda2 that is mounted on mountpoint /mountpoint2? If that is the case, then a simple: cp -R /boot /new-boot-location should do it. s pozdravom jakub krajcovic On júl 27, 2005, at 14:53, Richard Watson wrote: Can anyone tell me if it's possible to move (or copy) the complete contents of /boot located on /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2. If so would anyone know the correct command so I pick up any hidden files ,etc. -- Thanks, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 25/07/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:27:12AM -0400, Thomas Dickey me dec�a: On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:11:05AM -0300, Fernando Canizo wrote: But vim is linked against libncurses, doesn't make it a 'curses application' ? no. A curses application calls initscr() or newterm(), uses the curses library to perform optimized display updates. A termcap application calls tgetent(), and uses tputs() or tgoto() to write strings directly to the display. Since vim is a termcap application, you could in principle link it with libtermcap without seeing any difference in vim's functionality. There are some applications that can be configured (compiled) for any of these interfaces: termcap terminfo curses (ncurses) ncursesw tin and vile do this, for example. Cool, so i can discard that the problem comes from vim + libncurses. In other mails from the thread we've reached to the point of knowing that mutt is reencoding the chars. Since you seem to know about libraries and calls to functions, do you know a method to track this issue? I've been thinking maybe an strace to mutt, but y don't know what to search for, and strace gives lots of info. So the question is: what would you do to track this problem? -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar woman: Say something dirty to me! man: Kitchen. -- meyerm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Copying contents /boot from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2
Although i do not quite understand what you are saying: (copy from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2) - do you mean,: copy from /dev/hdb1 that is mounted on /mountpoint1 to /dev/hda2 that is mounted on mountpoint /mountpoint2? If that is the case, then a simple: cp -R /boot /new-boot-location should do it. You'll probably want to add the -p option to copy permissions, ownership, etc. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
El Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 03:50:14PM +0300, Matan Peled me decía: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fernando Canizo wrote: Yes! In the next line a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE: � This doesn't seem to be UTF-8 (I get a box in UTF-8 mode,) but it looks OK in latin-1. But you should see that ok, now if i reply to that message, when it reaches me through the list, i will send this stuff: á Now this looks like UTF-8. which seems to be (not sure about this) the codification of the two bytes of the LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE but un latin1. Yes, i did saw the same. I forgot i was replying and forgot to check fenc and enc in vim. Now i will force the stuff: setting fenc and enc to utf-8 ... Now i write a LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE: á -- Fernando Canizo - LUGMen: www.lugmen.org.ar - A8N: a8n.lugmen.org.ar I had no shoes and I pitied myself. Then I met a man who had no feet, so I took his shoes. -- Dave Barry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recompiling vim linked to libncursesw
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:24:23AM -0300, Fernando Canizo wrote: Cool, so i can discard that the problem comes from vim + libncurses. In other mails from the thread we've reached to the point of knowing that mutt is reencoding the chars. Since you seem to know about libraries and calls to functions, do you know a method to track this issue? I've been thinking maybe an strace to mutt, but y don't know what to search for, and strace gives lots of info. strace gives lots of information, but sometimes you can reduce it by looking only at specific calls. Usually what I'm interested in from strace in this type of problem is the exec's and open's it shows. I'm not sure what mutt's doing either. But if it's recoding the information, it's doing either via runtime library or via an external program. Another tool is ltrace, which would (like strace, a lot of information) show the library calls mutt makes. That's useful in this sense to see if it's doing something with iconv. So the question is: what would you do to track this problem? I'd probably poke at the strace and ltrace results enough to get a sense of generally what it's doing, then grep through mutt's sources to see where it's doing _that_. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net pgpXjfZNjKztF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Where is magicfilterconfig?
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Alessandro Selli wrote: I installed magicfilter on a i386 machine because I was confortable with it's use with LPRng under Debian. I knew it came with a configuration tool, magicfilterconfig, but that tool is missing in my installation (from sources). There does not seem to be a separate package with it. So, where is it? If it's no longer part of the magicfilter package, what can I use (documentation?) to generate a working printcap file? You should really have esearch or eix installed (or at least use emerge -S): $ eix magicfilter * net-print/magicfilter Available versions: 1.2-r4 2.3a ~2.3d Installed: no Homepage:http://www.pell.portland.or.us/~orc/Code/magicfilter/ Description: Customizable, extensible automatic printer filter -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying contents /boot from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 09:21:06 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: You'll probably want to add the -p option to copy permissions, ownership, etc. Use -a (--archive), which preserves everything it can. -- Neil Bothwick WINDOWS: Will Install Needless Data On Whole System pgpvxjAhggrxw.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] boot problem since devfs-udev switch
Hi, I switched from devfs to udev 10 days ago, and since then every nth boot will hang at 'initializing random number generator' I had at least one udev-update since then, without changes. The box reacts to the sysrq-keys, so I am able to reboot - and the reboot is always successfull. I followed the udev-guide here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml without the tarball, and the test mentioned there was succesfull (/dev/null and /dev/console were there). I googled a little bit, but found nothing. Has someone a clue, where to look? Glück Auf Volker -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem using genkernel
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Waldemar Tribus wrote: Just wanted to follow gentoo 2.4 to 2.6 migration guide, to avoid stipud error which i could make if i would do it by myself :) We see a lot of posts here from people that have problems with genkernel, which is why some of us dont use it. The handbook explains how to build a kernel manually rather well. -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM restarts citing lderror: missing pam_console.so after running et
Chris this may help with the problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-350736-highlight-gdm+pam.html Chris Fairles wrote: Oddly enough, if I run et like this et et.log 21 it runs fine and gdm does not restart itself. heres a snip from the log at least where I *think* it was failing before... it tries to run a tty console which pam does not like, why? --- Common Initialization Complete --- Opening IP socket: localhost:27960 Hostname: dsotm IP: 127.0.0.1 Started tty console (use +set ttycon 0 to disable) thnx, chris Chris Fairles wrote: Ran a emerge -NDuva world, updated a bunch of gnome stuff. gnome-base/gnome-2.10-r1 and deps and gnome-base/gdm-2.6.0.9-r2 Launching et (enemey territory) gives (in /var/log/messages) Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_console.so) Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_console.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_console.so Jul 26 22:58:15 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[23200]: session opened for user chris by (uid=0) Jul 26 22:58:23 dsotm su(pam_unix)[23301]: session opened for user root by (uid=1000) Jul 26 23:00:35 dsotm su(pam_unix)[23301]: session closed for user root Jul 26 23:00:39 dsotm gdm[23200]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Jul 26 23:00:39 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[23200]: session closed for user chris gdm restarts no game I've tried commenting out all of dsotm ~ # grep console /etc/pam.d/* /etc/pam.d/gdm:session optional /lib/security/pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin:session optional /lib/security/pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/xdm:session optional pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/xserver:# Next line you need console ownership to be able to start X /etc/pam.d/xserver:#auth required pam_console.so restarting gdm, even rebooting, same error as above. tried setting USE=pam_console emerge -Nva pam ... adding the login pam_console, uncommenting all of the above lines, i just get the Jul 26 22:41:05 dsotm gdm[8000]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 i'm almost ready to USE=-pam emerge -e world ... chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with esound
On 7/27/05, Matan Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try revdep-rebuild. Thanks, that gives: Warning: Failed to resolve package order. Will merge in random order! snip All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot =app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1 =app-text/xpdf-3.00-r8 =dev-java/libreadline-java-0.8.0-r1 =dev-perl/sdl-perl-1.20.3 =net-libs/gnutls-1.2.3 =sys-fs/cryptsetup-0.1-r1 .. Calculating dependencies / emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-perl/sdl-perl-1.20.3. Which is kind of strange as 'emerge -av sdl-perl' gives: [ebuild U ] dev-perl/sdl-perl-1.20.3-r1 [1.20.3] +mpeg +truetype 779 kB Now what? M. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Peculiar... ssh / shell glitch...
I use cygwin openssh to connect to my Gentoo server... recently I've noticed a change in behaviour. When I press ctrlC I'd expect my gentoo shell (zsh) to abort the current empty statement and wait for another. These days, however, I see Killed by signal 2 and then my ssh connection closes. Does anyone have any idea why this might have started to happen? Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT SATA-2 drive support in Gentoo
Hello, Has anyone successfully deploy mulitple SATA-2 drives in a Gentoo Server? If so, have you benchmarked the performance of these drives? If so, are you happy with the price/performance of SATA-2 or what would you recommend for price/performance on a mid-range Gentoo server? Any specfic controller cards recommendations for SATA(2) are of interest too. TIA, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Newbie - Missing IPtables
I successfully installed my first gentoo but didn't get iptables. The HOWTO says, As for the kernel all you must do is enable iptable support. but not how to do that? Do I have to redo the complete install? (about 12 hours). Thanks Eldon Ziegler -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Missing IPtables
cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig edit the kernel options to set up the iptables parts needed in the kernel (can't rememebr where they are - not just at my normal box atm) then install the new kernel like you did originally emerge iptables to get the user space tools to control the kernel iptables chains. Eldon Ziegler wrote: I successfully installed my first gentoo but didn't get iptables. The HOWTO says, As for the kernel all you must do is enable iptable support. but not how to do that? Do I have to redo the complete install? (about 12 hours). Thanks Eldon Ziegler -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Peculiar... ssh / shell glitch...
Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I use cygwin openssh to connect to my Gentoo server... recently I've noticed a change in behaviour. When I press ctrlC I'd expect my gentoo shell (zsh) to abort the current empty statement and wait for another. These days, however, I see Killed by signal 2 and then my ssh connection closes. Does anyone have any idea why this might have started to happen? Steve Apparently the signal is being handled by cygwin on the client side (not a gentoo server problem). Something must have changed in your cygwin evironment. A quick search shows that this is a common problem: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=%22Killed+by+signal+2%22+cygwin+ssh. In the first search result it suggested to Switch off ForwardX11 in your .ssh/config. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with esound
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 07:05:48PM +0200, Martin Larsson wrote: On 7/27/05, Matan Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try revdep-rebuild. Thanks, that gives: Warning: Failed to resolve package order. Will merge in random order! snip All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot =app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1 =app-text/xpdf-3.00-r8 =dev-java/libreadline-java-0.8.0-r1 =dev-perl/sdl-perl-1.20.3 =net-libs/gnutls-1.2.3 =sys-fs/cryptsetup-0.1-r1 .. Calculating dependencies / emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =dev-perl/sdl-perl-1.20.3. Which is kind of strange as 'emerge -av sdl-perl' gives: [ebuild U ] dev-perl/sdl-perl-1.20.3-r1 [1.20.3] +mpeg +truetype 779 kB Now what? M. First emerge the new version of sdl-perl emerge --oneshot sdl-perl then remove the tempfiles created by revdep-rebuild and run revdep-rebuild again. The problem is that somewhere along the line the sdl-perl-1.20.3 ebuild was removed, and revdep-rebuild defaults to re-emerging the same version of the program as currently in your system... Though for this to happen, sdl-perl is probably a deep dependency that never got updated (try emerge --deep sometime). W -- Nothing is fool-proof to sufficiently talented fools. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 2 days, 18:22 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Missing IPtables
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 07:43:32PM +0100, Tim Igoe wrote: cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig edit the kernel options to set up the iptables parts needed in the kernel (can't rememebr where they are - not just at my normal box atm) In 2.6.11, it is under Device Drivers - Networking Support - Networking Options - Network Packet Filtering - IP: Netfilter configurations then install the new kernel like you did originally emerge iptables to get the user space tools to control the kernel iptables chains. Eldon Ziegler wrote: I successfully installed my first gentoo but didn't get iptables. The HOWTO says, As for the kernel all you must do is enable iptable support. but not how to do that? Do I have to redo the complete install? (about 12 hours). Thanks Eldon Ziegler -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! -- If a man watches three football games in a row, he should be delared legally dead. ~Irma Bombeck Sortir en Pantoufles: up 2 days, 18:31 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie - Missing IPtables
On 7/27/05, Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig edit the kernel options to set up the iptables parts needed in the kernel (can't rememebr where they are - not just at my normal box atm) then install the new kernel like you did originally emerge iptables to get the user space tools to control the kernel iptables chains. Eldon Ziegler wrote: I successfully installed my first gentoo but didn't get iptables. The HOWTO says, As for the kernel all you must do is enable iptable support. but not how to do that? Do I have to redo the complete install? (about 12 hours). Thanks Eldon Ziegler -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! Well, if you've got X working somehow - you can try make xmenuconfig It's really beautiful =) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Creating installation for slow system on a big host
Hello. I finally bought myself a somewhat low end notebook on which I want to install Gentoo as well. Since this is a low end box and since my main system is not low end :), I'd like to compile as much as possible on the big server and then later copy (or whatever) the compiled packages over to the slower system. Those two systems will be in a LAN. Always. What's the best method to accomplish that? I guess, that there's already documentation about such a setup out there. Thus, I would of course very much appreciate, if you could point me to good documentation. Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- It is often easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. -- Grace Murray Hopper -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT SATA-2 drive support in Gentoo
I inherited two Western Digital Raptor 74G SATA drives. They run at 10,000 rpm, 4.5 seek time. I was prepared to be unimpressed, but they are phenomenonly fast and quiet. I strongly recommend them. I am running them as a RAID 0, connected directly to the motherboard, using linux software RAID. If you want hardware RAID, 3ware seems to be the ticket. hdparm -Tt /dev/md0 /dev/md0: Timing cached reads: 3080 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1538.70 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 410 MB in 3.00 seconds = 136.46 MB/sec Not cheap, but I think they're worth every nickel. Bill Roberts On 18:19 Wed 27 Jul , James wrote: Hello, Has anyone successfully deploy mulitple SATA-2 drives in a Gentoo Server? If so, have you benchmarked the performance of these drives? If so, are you happy with the price/performance of SATA-2 or what would you recommend for price/performance on a mid-range Gentoo server? Any specfic controller cards recommendations for SATA(2) are of interest too. TIA, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list pgpjr5t8Lln0I.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating installation for slow system on a big host
Using FEATURES=buildpkg is always a great place to start on your 'big' system. For more detail than that (all one lines of it), check the gentoo-wiki site, it's full of useful information, well, sometimes. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host On 7/27/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I finally bought myself a somewhat low end notebook on which I want to install Gentoo as well. Since this is a low end box and since my main system is not low end :), I'd like to compile as much as possible on the big server and then later copy (or whatever) the compiled packages over to the slower system. Those two systems will be in a LAN. Always. What's the best method to accomplish that? I guess, that there's already documentation about such a setup out there. Thus, I would of course very much appreciate, if you could point me to good documentation. Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- It is often easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. -- Grace Murray Hopper -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] net backup gentoo client
Hi all, I was wondering if any one had any luck getting Net Backup to install a gentoo host as a client, and if so what conf changes had to be made? Thanks, -tm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating installation for slow system on a big host
Wade Brown schrieb: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Create_A_Build_Host Thanks. Reading it right now. I don't quite get this, though. At 2.5 Create cron scripts to keep the build area up to date (http://shink.de/kwqygt) it is written: mount -t nfs buildHost:/usr/portage/distfiles ${arch}/usr/portage/distfiles Why is /usr/portage/distfiles mounted via NFS? I understood it so, that the /mnt/gentoo/Maintenance script is supposed to be run on the build host. No? If not wrong, why NFS? Wouldn't it be sufficient and faster to use a bind mount? mount -o bind /usr/portage/distfiles ${arch}/usr/portage/distfiles Regards, Alexander Skwar -- The University of California Bears announced the signing of Reggie Philbin to a letter of intent to attend Cal next Fall. Philbin is said to make up for no talent by cheating well. Says Philbin of his decision to attend Cal, I'm in it for the free ride. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating installation for slow system on a big host
On 7/27/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I finally bought myself a somewhat low end notebook on which I want to install Gentoo as well. Since this is a low end box and since my main system is not low end :), I'd like to compile as much as possible on the big server and then later copy (or whatever) the compiled packages over to the slower system. Those two systems will be in a LAN. Always. What's the best method to accomplish that? I guess, that there's already documentation about such a setup out there. Thus, I would of course very much appreciate, if you could point me to good documentation. Remember that you can always set up distcc. This way your laptop does its normal compiles and you can distribute lots of the compiling load to the big server. -- Justin Patrin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GDM restarts citing lderror: missing pam_console.so after running et
Unfortunately, adding pam and gdm with ~x86 to keywords and remerging only updated gdm and the problem still occurs with a potential workaround, et /dev/null 21 Does this sound like a pam problem? gdm problem? or et (enemy territory) itself perhaps? once more running et caused a gdm restart Jul 27 13:19:29 dsotm gdm[7898]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_console.so) Jul 27 13:19:29 dsotm gdm[7898]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_console.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] Jul 27 13:19:29 dsotm gdm[7898]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_console.so after updating to gdm 2.8.0.1 still restarts Jul 27 17:59:26 dsotm gdm[6359]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0) Jul 27 17:59:32 dsotm gdm[6359]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1) Jul 27 17:59:38 dsotm gdm[6359]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 1 1) Jul 27 17:59:38 dsotm gdm[6359]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Jul 27 17:59:38 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[6359]: session closed for user chris George Roberts wrote: Chris this may help with the problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-350736-highlight-gdm+pam.html Chris Fairles wrote: Oddly enough, if I run et like this et et.log 21 it runs fine and gdm does not restart itself. heres a snip from the log at least where I *think* it was failing before... it tries to run a tty console which pam does not like, why? --- Common Initialization Complete --- Opening IP socket: localhost:27960 Hostname: dsotm IP: 127.0.0.1 Started tty console (use +set ttycon 0 to disable) thnx, chris Chris Fairles wrote: Ran a emerge -NDuva world, updated a bunch of gnome stuff. gnome-base/gnome-2.10-r1 and deps and gnome-base/gdm-2.6.0.9-r2 Launching et (enemey territory) gives (in /var/log/messages) Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_console.so) Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_console.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] Jul 26 22:58:13 dsotm gdm[23200]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_console.so Jul 26 22:58:15 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[23200]: session opened for user chris by (uid=0) Jul 26 22:58:23 dsotm su(pam_unix)[23301]: session opened for user root by (uid=1000) Jul 26 23:00:35 dsotm su(pam_unix)[23301]: session closed for user root Jul 26 23:00:39 dsotm gdm[23200]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Jul 26 23:00:39 dsotm gdm(pam_unix)[23200]: session closed for user chris gdm restarts no game I've tried commenting out all of dsotm ~ # grep console /etc/pam.d/* /etc/pam.d/gdm:session optional /lib/security/pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin:session optional /lib/security/pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/xdm:session optional pam_console.so /etc/pam.d/xserver:# Next line you need console ownership to be able to start X /etc/pam.d/xserver:#auth required pam_console.so restarting gdm, even rebooting, same error as above. tried setting USE=pam_console emerge -Nva pam ... adding the login pam_console, uncommenting all of the above lines, i just get the Jul 26 22:41:05 dsotm gdm[8000]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 i'm almost ready to USE=-pam emerge -e world ... chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with esound
On 7/27/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First emerge the new version of sdl-perl emerge --oneshot sdl-perl then remove the tempfiles created by revdep-rebuild and run revdep-rebuild again. Thanks that worked... (try emerge --deep sometime). I always do emerge -avDu system/world. Nothing is fool-proof to sufficiently talented fools. Thanks... :*) M. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Encripting /home
Hello, I want to have the /home of my laptop encripted, with an external key (in a CD or floppy, until I get an usb pain drive), specially to be able to change the passphrase easily and have various medias with different passphrases and the same key (so, my wife can uses her own passphrase), is this possible ? it'll be the non written 13th item here: http://www.sdc.org/~leila/usb-dongle/readme.html, right ? Any docs that explains how to achieve this (as close as possible to Gentoo). Thanks. -- Pupeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://pupeno.com) Reading ? Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar pgpYHXkc6SnBt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: keys that don't create keycodes
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 19:41 -0700, Sami Samhuri wrote: * On Tue Jul-19-2005 at 04:26:05 PM +0930, Iain Buchanan said: It seems that every multimedia keyboard out there (especially the usb ones) have some or all extra keys that just aren't visible outside of Winblows. I have a couple of them! I've tried all the usual ways of detecting them - xev and others that do a similar thing but they just don't register as keypresses in any standard way. I would like comments on why, and what methods, if any, may be available to detect such keys. Surely with the plethora of cheap multimedia keyboards out there, there is some way. Perhaps this blog entry[1] has some useful information for you. [1] http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2005/06/15/and_the_keyboard_lose_the_match thanks, that looks really interesting... -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: keys that don't create keycodes
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 09:47 +0200, Robert Svoboda wrote: * Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-19 09:10]: I have a couple of them! I've tried all the usual ways of detecting them - xev and others that do a similar thing but they just don't register as keypresses in any standard way. did you try lineak (it's in portage)? I think there are others, maybe more advanced. I've tried lots of programs, including lineak, but trying another program isn't going to fix it if xev itself can't even see the keypresses. It has to be a deeper issue like the X keyboard driver or something. Hence the interesting link someone else posted: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/flameeyes/2005/06/15/and_the_keyboard_lose_the_match -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Encripting /home
Alle 01:18, giovedì 28 luglio 2005, Pupeno ha scritto: Hello, I want to have the /home of my laptop encripted, with an external key (in a CD or floppy, until I get an usb pain drive), specially to be able to change the passphrase easily and have various medias with different passphrases and the same key (so, my wife can uses her own passphrase), is this possible ? it'll be the non written 13th item here: http://www.sdc.org/~leila/usb-dongle/readme.html, right ? Any docs that explains how to achieve this (as close as possible to Gentoo). Thanks. I have my home encrypt... But I cannot change the passphrase! I use the dm-crypt from the kernel With these options, I can create a dynamic passphrase... /bin/cryptsetup -h ripemd160 -c aes create home /path/device You don't need a key (that someone can keep and force) but the key is created from the passphrase: that means that without that word works nothing,but you need a good password (and please, don't write it on the monitor ;-) ...) cryptsetup is in portage tree, dm-crypt option is in the kernel... See you, Luigi -- Public key GPG(0x073A0960) on http://keyserver.linux.it/ pgpEYlmWuXcdG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Copying contents /boot from /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2
Richard, On Wednesday 27 July 2005 08:53 am, Richard Watson wrote: Can anyone tell me if it's possible to move (or copy) the complete contents of /boot located on /dev/hdb1 to /dev/hda2. If so would anyone know the correct command so I pick up any hidden files ,etc. One way to do it is to do the following: mount -o ro /dev/hdb1 old mount /dev/hda1 new cd old tar cvf - * | tar xf -C ../new/ Sean -- Thanks, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.5/58 - Release Date: 25/07/2005 -- Sean Higgins, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.systura.com - Where information becomes knowledge. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Encripting /home
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 07:54 pm, Luigi Pinna wrote: Alle 01:18, giovedì 28 luglio 2005, Pupeno ha scritto: Hello, I want to have the /home of my laptop encripted, with an external key (in a CD or floppy, until I get an usb pain drive), specially to be able to change the passphrase easily and have various medias with different passphrases and the same key (so, my wife can uses her own passphrase), is this possible ? it'll be the non written 13th item here: http://www.sdc.org/~leila/usb-dongle/readme.html, right ? Any docs that explains how to achieve this (as close as possible to Gentoo). Thanks. I have my home encrypt... But I cannot change the passphrase! I use the dm-crypt from the kernel With these options, I can create a dynamic passphrase... /bin/cryptsetup -h ripemd160 -c aes create home /path/device You don't need a key (that someone can keep and force) but the key is created from the passphrase: that means that without that word works nothing,but you need a good password (and please, don't write it on the monitor ;-) ...) cryptsetup is in portage tree, dm-crypt option is in the kernel... See you, Luigi On another twist, I was using my own cryptoloop setup untill I tripped over encfs. I use it every where now, docs are on the home site of the encfs author. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 8:41pm up 9 days, 20:40, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT SATA-2 drive support in Gentoo
Bill Roberts billbalt at eyeofthequark.com writes: I inherited two Western Digital Raptor 74G SATA drives. hdparm -Tt /dev/md0 /dev/md0: Timing cached reads: 3080 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1538.70 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 410 MB in 3.00 seconds = 136.46 MB/sec Those are impressive numbers. Thanks, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Encripting /home
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 20:54, Luigi Pinna wrote: Alle 01:18, giovedì 28 luglio 2005, Pupeno ha scritto: Hello, I want to have the /home of my laptop encripted, with an external key (in a CD or floppy, until I get an usb pain drive), specially to be able to change the passphrase easily and have various medias with different passphrases and the same key (so, my wife can uses her own passphrase), is this possible ? it'll be the non written 13th item here: http://www.sdc.org/~leila/usb-dongle/readme.html, right ? Any docs that explains how to achieve this (as close as possible to Gentoo). Thanks. I have my home encrypt... But I cannot change the passphrase! I don't want a fixed passphrase. I use the dm-crypt from the kernel I've read that it is unsecure and I also read that it is not yet vory well suported. With these options, I can create a dynamic passphrase... What is a dynamic passphrase ? You don't need a key (that someone can keep and force) but the key is created from the passphrase: that means that without that word works nothing,but you need a good password (and please, don't write it on the monitor ;-) ...) I know I don't need a key, but I do want a key (stored in a remobable modia) encripted with a passphrase I will be able to change, or best, my wife can have the key protected with a different passphrase than I do. Beyond that, encripting with a key is much better than doing that with a passphrase because the passphrase can be cracked (dictionary attack) while the key-encripted that can't. Thanks. -- Pupeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://pupeno.com) Reading ? Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar pgpcDrc0FBA0p.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Flightgear 0.9.8: YF-23 aircraft there one day, not the next
Hi. I used to play flightgear 0.9.8 quite a lot. Then I stopped for a few months. I tried again last night, using the YF-23 aircraft. But it's not working. fgfs --show-aircraft doesn't even list it anymore. I reinstalled the game, and it's still not there. I don't understand, what the heck happened? Here's the YF-23 right here from when i used to play before, i'm not making this up heh: http://fire-eyes.org/gal/view_photo.php?full=1set_albumName=flightgearid=flightgear_YF_23_kjfk_lots_of_towers Any ideas? This baffles me, and it's my favorite aircraft in the game... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with esound
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 12:56:33AM +0200, Martin Larsson wrote: On 7/27/05, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First emerge the new version of sdl-perl emerge --oneshot sdl-perl then remove the tempfiles created by revdep-rebuild and run revdep-rebuild again. Thanks that worked... (try emerge --deep sometime). I always do emerge -avDu system/world. Nothing is fool-proof to sufficiently talented fools. Thanks... :*) M. Sometimes I am amazed at what my random sig generator thinks is appropriate for the occasion... I've come to learn that my computer's opinions are unfathomable probably ineffable, and it's best not to get on its bad side. =p For example, I have no idea what chickens and bad puns have to do with this situation, but I am sure the answer will manifest itself if this thread gets any longer. I'll promptly shut-up now. Best, W -- A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 3 days, 1:43 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gnome-desktop blocking gnome-core
I'm still getting this after doing an emerge -u (without the -D) rygel ~ # emerge -puD world -t These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop (is blocking gnome-base/gnome-core-1.4.2-r1) [nomerge ] net-misc/whois-4.7.2 [ebuild U ] net-dns/libidn-0.5.15 [0.5.13] [nomerge ] x11-plugins/gkrellm-sensors-0.1 [ebuild N] sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.9.1 [nomerge ] net-wireless/gtkskan-0.2 [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-core-1.4.2-r1 How can I tell what wants gnome-core? It is not installed now because I deleted it when this problem first arose. Any other suggestions on how to solve this problem? -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Encripting /home
Pupeno wrote: Hello, I want to have the /home of my laptop encripted, with an external key (in a CD or floppy, until I get an usb pain drive), specially to be able to change the passphrase easily and have various medias with different passphrases and the same key (so, my wife can uses her own passphrase), is this possible ? it'll be the non written 13th item here: http://www.sdc.org/~leila/usb-dongle/readme.html, right ? Any docs that explains how to achieve this (as close as possible to Gentoo). Thanks. I use loop-aes to encrypt all filesystems. It is very secure and very fast. If you have USE=crypt, Gentoo already has support for it in the mount and losetup commands. You just need the kernel module (emerge loop-aes). After you emerge it, read the documentation at /usr/share/doc/loop-aes-*/README.gz -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DEPEND/*DEPEND problem
AybOwan! friends, i usually update my portage to upto date try to download all new files to my box for later emerging(emerge -e world). de following error message came. so please help me... == pushpaka-ng special-downloads # emerge -fe world Calculating world dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =media-libs/jpeg-mmx-1.1.2-r1. !!! Problem with ebuild media-video/kino-0.7.6 !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem. !!! Depgraph creation failed. ===-- ...The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? ---\^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\||--w||| ||Gentoo Linux 2.6.12-gentoo-r4-Adapt-v1.1#
Re: [gentoo-user] Encripting /home
Pupeno wrote: I use the dm-crypt from the kernel I've read that it is unsecure and I also read that it is not yet vory well suported. Dm-crypt is fairly well supported, since it is in the kernel, but I find it to be harder to setup and less 'flexible' than loop-AES (the changing passphrase thing, for example). It provides rougly the equivalent security as loop-AES in single-key mode (where a single key is used to encrypt every block). loop-AES also supports multi-key mode, where 64 different keys are used to encrypt the blocks. Multi-key makes certain kinds of attacks (specifically, watermark) more difficult, but is slower. However, I seem to recall reading somewhere in the last couple of weeks that dm-crypt was also getting multi-key support...maybe in the mm-kernel, or for 2.6.13... Now, I doubt that most people actually _need_ the extra security of multi-key encryption. Personally I run loop-AES in single-key mode because it is faster than multi-key. Plus someone willing to go through the effort of cracking multi-key encryption would find it much easier to simply make a credible physical threat, and I will happily give them my password!! :-) I know I don't need a key, but I do want a key (stored in a remobable modia) encripted with a passphrase I will be able to change, or best, my wife can have the key protected with a different passphrase than I do. Beyond that, encripting with a key is much better than doing that with a passphrase because the passphrase can be cracked (dictionary attack) while the key-encripted that can't. Well, technically, anything can be cracked given enough time and computing power. For using different passwords, this is possible. You would need to encrypt the same key file with gpg to two different .gpg filesyour wife can use one, and you can use the other. If the key files are stored on separate pieces of removable media, then you each have your own keys to the system. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list