Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox
Benno Schulenberg wrote: Well, somewhere deep in the BIOS peripheral settings, there are things like Enable AGP Fast Write or similar. Set all those things to Off or Disabled. You wil want stability first, speed maybe later. It probably won't make a difference, but it at least excludes one possible source of problems. Yeah, those were all disabled when I was running Unichrome. I've turned them all on for NVIDIA though. No stability problems. You've said you have an MSI K8M800 motherboard. Looking at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_list.asp?class=mbcpu=3, such boards only support Sempron 2600+, 2800+, 3000+, 3100+, 3300+, not a 2500+. This may not be a problem, but then again, it might not be listed for a reason. H. Well I checked the motherboard manual when I bought this computer and it says Supports AMD K8 64 bit processors (Socket 754). No sse USE flag? You could try adding it and re-emerging Xorg. Well, 3dnow, mmx and sse are all masked in the amd64 profile anyway... To confirm your exact CPU, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'. It is an AMD Sempron 2500+ An 'lsmod' on this system under Gentoo. Module Size Used by w83627hf 34984 0 eeprom 8784 0 i2c_sensor 3840 2 w83627hf,eeprom i2c_isa 2816 0 snd_seq_oss36608 0 snd_seq_midi_event 8320 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq56896 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss55712 0 snd_mixer_oss 18880 1 snd_pcm_oss ohci_hcd 21316 0 snd_via82xx29312 4 snd_ac97_codec 91352 1 snd_via82xx snd_pcm97420 5 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 25544 3 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11144 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 8320 1 snd_via82xx snd_rawmidi28448 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 10064 3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi snd60200 16 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device i2c_viapro 9300 0 i2c_core 23704 5 w83627hf,eeprom,i2c_sensor,i2c_isa,i2c_viapro ehci_hcd 31944 0 uhci_hcd 33568 0 8139too28800 0 nvidia 4055676 12 This is the current one. Back with Unichrome, I had via and drm loaded in place of nvidia. Nothing fancy in there I guess. An 'emerge -pv xorg-x11'. [ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4 (-3dfx) (-3dnow) +bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal (-mmx) +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk (-sse) -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB A 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'. This is errr one of the xorg.conf files used of Unichrome. The other one had dri disabled, that's all... Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/lib64/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/lib64/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load xtrap Load dbe Load glx Load dri Load extmod Load record Load type1 Load freetype EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # Option Emulate3Buttons yes EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName LG Electronics ModelNameStudioWorks 700i HorizSync30 - 70 VertRefresh 50 - 160 Option dpms EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option VGAClocks # [bool] #Option KGAUniversal # [bool] Identifier Videocard0 Driver via VendorName VIA Technologies, Inc. BoardName S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01) BusID PCI:1:0:0 Option ForcePCIMode True EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox
Benno Schulenberg wrote: You've said you have an MSI K8M800 motherboard. Looking at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_list.asp?class=mbcpu=3, such boards only support Sempron 2600+, 2800+, 3000+, 3100+, 3300+, not a 2500+. This may not be a problem, but then again, it might not be listed for a reason. http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=647 That's the motherboard actually. K8M800-CE is the chipset name from VIA. Mrugesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting
Hi, I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for future works. Now i'm updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize that ccache is adjusting permissions before and after for all packages, it's something like this: media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 merged. * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache clean: No packages selected for removal. emerge (105 of 405) media-libs/jpeg-6b-r5 to / * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache My question is about this adjusting process, each adjusting process longs about 4 to 5 seconds. For whole update this makes 54 to 67.5 minutes and if this really is only an permission adjusting process i thought this is just loosing time. Can you help to understand this and if there is a settings for this that i missed would you show me? --- My make.conf file --- CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.intergenia.de http://mirror.aiya.ru/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.citkit.ru/pub/Linux/gentoo http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/gentoo/ SYNC=rsync://rsync.de.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=-3dfx -3dnow -3dnowext -afs -aim -qt -kde -ipv6 -nsplugin -doc -debug -spell -arts oss esd unicode gnome alsa mmx sse sse2 nls X gtk gtk2 PORT_LOGDIR=/home/portage/logs CLEAN_DELAY=0 FEATURES=ccache CCACHE_SIZE=2G CCACHE_DIR=/root/.ccache
[gentoo-user] monitoring ppp0 with mrtg
Hello, I am trying to monitor a standard dial-up connection as ppp0 (non-static ip) with mrtg. I can generate a cfg file, but find ppp0 as disabled. Can some one please suggest a suitable configuartion syntax for ppp0. I have followed setup instructions from Gentoo wiki, and had a particular requirement of ppp0 as an add on to this. ( http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_SNMP_and_MRTG_Made_Easy ) Thanks very much for reading, Cheers, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 ***
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 15:00 -0500, fire-eyes wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I don't really know who to ask about this error. I searched for an explanation on Google and it gave me a link to the Gentoo German forums, so I thought maybe someone here could help me with this. I wrote a Qt program. It compiles just fine, but when I try to run it I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/c++/myFantasy/main/src $ ./src *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 *** Aborted Being fairly inexperienced with C++ I have no idea what this means. Is this a problem with my program or with my system. Is there a way to fix it? Can anyone at least explain to me what it means? Are you running a grsecurity and or pax kernel? I get this kind of crap left and right with it... Sometimes. Very unpredictable. Very annoying. I don't know what grsecurity or pax kernel are. I use genkernel. Here's the output of my uname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 #1 Thu Nov 17 07:30:09 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Out of curiosity, how do you get around this error? Well, you aren't running one then :) As for getting around, I haven't figured out a way. It's very frustrating to note that I haven't been able to ever find help about this. Makes one feel on your own... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Automatically mounting USB mass storage devices (camera)
I'm having a similar problem with ivman, and i've discovered that the reason is that the camera has an id label that has a space, ie: LEXAR MEDIA. That's not right for pmount, and when ivman tries to mount it, fails. But it works for other usb devices. Does it work for you? Also, i had to upgrade to a CVS version of hal in order to get everything to work again with 2.6.14 (you can find one ebuild in fluidportage). Hope it helps! Alexander Skwar wrote: Norberto Bensa schrieb: Alexander Skwar wrote: Norberto Bensa schrieb: Alexander Skwar wrote: dbus-0.50-r1 downgrade to 0.36.2 ivman-0.6.5 downgrade to 0.6.4 Done. Still no automount. Have you restarted dbus? Yes :( How's that automounting supposed to work? When does pmount kick in? How do I make dbus/hald/whatever start pmount (or whatever...) to do the actual mount? Alexander Skwar -- Blog: http://tanis.sl-form.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
Alexander Skwar schreef: Patrick McLean schrieb: Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a modern Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it. What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's the gain - in *THAT* scenario? What I found even worse than the irrelevancy of PAM in that situation (which is mine), was what Walter Dnes mentioned: everything you know is wrong when it comes to config files all over the place. You end up using entirely several different config files to control access. When PAM broke for me (as it did for so many others) during the Great PAM Debacle of a year or two ago, I was *shocked* to discover that I knew nothing at all about PAM configuration, and couldn't figure out anything about PAM configuration--despite having used Gentoo for a couple of years already and having figured out plenty of things that I had previously known nothing about. I was forced to stand by and watch as my authentication protocols progressively broke-- first GUI su (programs that pop up a dialog to give root privileges), then my DE login, then my console login. What distressed me the most-- even more than having to install another distro in order to ultimately do an alternative reinstall-- was that it was clear that PAM was mission-critical yet the first I ever heard of/dealt with it was when it broke. That seemed so un-Gentoo-like to me that I totally lost my bearings about the whole issue. By the time I got back from my dalliance with SuSE, people had figured out how to run a PAM-free system, ebuilds that had previously depended on PAM now had PAM optional and I was free to put -pam in my USE flags and hope to have a working system. Which I did, and do. I'm sure that PAM has a function, and that function is important for those who need a lot of authentication protocols to be passed to their machine (as in the case of servers that need to be protected). But for the average Jill or Joe like me, who runs no servers and doesn't have to ever do things like ssh into my machine (because I'm sitting right here), I think it's overkill and in this case, rather dangerous overkill, because if this unnecessary set of protocols ever does break (again), the average Jill or Joe is quite up the creek without a paddle. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 ***
On 06:44 Sat 19 Nov , fire-eyes wrote: Well, you aren't running one then :) As for getting around, I haven't figured out a way. It's very frustrating to note that I haven't been able to ever find help about this. Makes one feel on your own... It's not kernel related, it's glibc telling you that you screwed up with memory allocation somewhere. The only 'fix' is to fix your code, so no one can help without seeing it (apart from maybe listing some common mistakes that cause this). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
On Nov 19, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote: Patrick McLean schrieb: Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a modern Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it. What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's the gain - in *THAT* scenario? I'm not sure about you, but I can think of MANY times over my career when I set up a box to do just one thing or for just one person and down the road all of a sudden, I needed another thing or another person. Retrofitting pam onto a running, configured system is not something I'd care to attempt. Having pam on from the beginning, if you don't fiddle with the defaults, poses no extra complexity. But then, I'm a belt and suspenders man. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 ***
David Morgan wrote: It's not kernel related, it's glibc telling you that you screwed up with memory allocation somewhere. The only 'fix' is to fix your code, so no one can help without seeing it (apart from maybe listing some common mistakes that cause this). Okay. My difference is that I see this with apps that I didn't write, which others don't have issues with. But I haven't seen it in a while, seems to come and go. Doesn't make much sense, and I have checked my hardware repeatedly. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bash Config files
quoth the gentuxx: Hi all, This is sort of a n00bie question, but something I haven't really had to mess around with. I recently did an `emerge world` and after the update and a reboot, my root prompt has changed back to the gentoo default. It now seems that the /etc/bashrc and /etc/profile are overriding my root's .bashrc and .profile. In addition to the root prompt being changed, it seems that the PATH environment variable isn't complete. _Some_ utilities that are part of the gentoolkit (but not all) aren't found in the path (qpkg, equery, etc.). So what do I need to do to set things right, so my local setting override the global? Or is there a reason for this, and I should just modify the global, since it has if/else's for root? TIA I have found the best way to deal with this is to add this snippet to the end of /etc/profile: if [ -e ~/.bashrc]; then . ~/.bashrc fi The problem is that you need to add it again when you upgrade baselayout... gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgp6jeusNPNUQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting
Hi, I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for later works. Now i'm updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize that ccache is adjusting permissions for 4 times per package; before merge, before unmerge of existing packages, after unmerge and after merge. It's something like this: --- !targe sym /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache original instance of package unmerged safely. * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... dev-libs/glib-2.6.5 merged. * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache clean: No packages selected for removal. emerge (133 of 405) x11-libs/pango-1.8.1-r1 to / * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache My question is about this adjusting process, each adjusting process longs about 5 to 6 seconds. For whole update this makes 135 to 162 minutes and if this really is only an permission adjusting process i thought this is just loosing time. Can you help to understand this and if there is a setting for this that i've missed would you show me? --- My make.conf file --- CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/ http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/ http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.intergenia.de http://mirror.aiya.ru/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.citkit.ru/pub/Linux/gentoo http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/gentoo/ SYNC=rsync://rsync.de.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=-3dfx -3dnow -3dnowext -afs -aim -qt -kde -ipv6 -nsplugin -doc -debug -spell -arts oss esd unicode gnome alsa mmx sse sse2 nls X gtk gtk2 PORT_LOGDIR=/home/portage/logs CLEAN_DELAY=0 FEATURES=ccache CCACHE_SIZE=2G CCACHE_DIR=/root/.ccache
Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 *** [SOLVED]
On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 06:44 -0500, fire-eyes wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 15:00 -0500, fire-eyes wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I don't really know who to ask about this error. I searched for an explanation on Google and it gave me a link to the Gentoo German forums, so I thought maybe someone here could help me with this. I wrote a Qt program. It compiles just fine, but when I try to run it I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/c++/myFantasy/main/src $ ./src *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 *** Aborted Being fairly inexperienced with C++ I have no idea what this means. Is this a problem with my program or with my system. Is there a way to fix it? Can anyone at least explain to me what it means? Are you running a grsecurity and or pax kernel? I get this kind of crap left and right with it... Sometimes. Very unpredictable. Very annoying. I don't know what grsecurity or pax kernel are. I use genkernel. Here's the output of my uname: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 #1 Thu Nov 17 07:30:09 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux Out of curiosity, how do you get around this error? Well, you aren't running one then :) As for getting around, I haven't figured out a way. It's very frustrating to note that I haven't been able to ever find help about this. Makes one feel on your own... Actually, I solved the error for my situation last night - I just forgot to write it in as SOLVED. I had created a temporary pointer, then assigned the temporary pointer to a variable I was planning to return from a method, then deleted the temporary pointer. I'm not used to using pointers. I've always heard that you should always delete your pointers when you're done with them and for some reason I thought the delete keyword deleted the pointer instead of the memory it was pointing at... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating RAID devices - udev question
On Saturday 19 November 2005 16:19, Brian Parish wrote: On Sunday 13 November 2005 17:33, Brian Parish wrote: On Sunday 13 November 2005 17:23, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/12/05, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 13 November 2005 01:49, Brian Parish wrote: I am trying to add a software RAID 5 disk set to an existing machine installed using genkernel. All the RAID support is compiled into the kernel, but no /dev/md? device files exist. I can create these using mknod and make the RAID, but they don't survive a reboot. How do I tell udev to create these files as persistant devices? All partitions in the RAID set need to be set to partition type fd (Linux raid autodetect), then the kernel will build the arrays during startup. FYI, this is only true if the raid drivers are compiled into the kernel (no modules), and you do _not_ use an initramfs to boot the system. If you use an initramfs, the kernel skips the autodetection of raid arrays. -Richard I did and it does (skip that is). Thanks again Richard. Brian Removing the initramfs seemed like the line of least resistance here, so being basically lazy, that's what I did. /dev/md0 is now created and I can create my RAID array happily enough. This still doesn't survive a reboot though. i.e. I have to run the mdadm --create command again. I assumed that this required something in mdadm.conf, so I updated that with all the magic numbers shown by mdadm -D. No change though. Is this an rc-update issue, or something? More info on this: It turns out that the main problem is/was that at the time the system is attempting to mount the RAID set, not only has it not been assembled, but the devices which compose it do not exist. /dev/sda, b and c are being created sometime later in the boot process. I have now implemented a smooth work-around by: 1. Setting the RAID in fstab to noauto and no checking 2. Creating a script in /etc/init.d which assembles and mounts the RAID set 3. Adding this script to the default group using rc-update While this means that everything works nicely, it does seem like a kludge and there is presumably a way to have the SATA (SCSI) devices created early in the boot process, so that the RAID set can be assembled and ready for the entry in fstab to be processed. cheers Brian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating RAID devices - udev question
On Saturday 19 November 2005 14:15, Brian Parish wrote: This still doesn't survive a reboot though. i.e. I have to run the mdadm --create command again. I assumed that this required something in mdadm.conf, so I updated that with all the magic numbers shown by mdadm -D. No change though. Is this an rc-update issue, or something? More info on this: It turns out that the main problem is/was that at the time the system is attempting to mount the RAID set, not only has it not been assembled, but the devices which compose it do not exist. /dev/sda, b and c are being created sometime later in the boot process. That's certainly interesting. What SATA card do you have? If it's got in kernel drivers, having them compiled into the kernel will get them setup before raid starts. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's the gain - in *THAT* scenario? Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if you do not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user chosed all of his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDf0ByAlpOsGhXcE0RAuGDAJ9vG4vf9p2LAWDvX8czlG9g7L1BvwCaAzqG KeFEVL6VTrUF2LffpV3L/Gg= =yBYy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: I will admit that I have a big concern about an upcoming MySQL update that is probably going to break my whole TV network here. Due to my fear I haven't upgraded MySQL and will likely come back ranting myself sometime in December when I'm probably forced to do it. We'll see... I have upgraded MySQL on several servers (two in production) without any problems whatsoever... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, kashani wrote: We've got a number of customers that use Geotrust which is significantly cheaper than Verisign/Thwate. Someone also uses Starfield which is dirt cheap. There is a technical issue when using certs no one has ever heard of before. Many times their cert company's root certs or whatever are not in the user's browser. GeoTrust claim to have their root cert in 99% of the browsers out there... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 80211/IPW2200 vs. Kernel 2.6.14
On 21:42 Fri 18 Nov , Matthias Bethke wrote: I just noticed the new Gentoo kernel 2.6.14-r2 includes support for both the generic 802.11 stack and the Intel IPW2200 driver. I've been using the separate ebuilds for these two so far, now I was wondering if there's still any advantage to that. Any opinions? I tried the 2.6.14 kernel with the ipw2200 driver, and it didn't work. Maybe it was fixed in release 2. Bill Roberts pgp7ld5VKi62A.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Creating RAID devices - udev question
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Brian Parish wrote: I have now implemented a smooth work-around by: 1. Setting the RAID in fstab to noauto and no checking 2. Creating a script in /etc/init.d which assembles and mounts the RAID set 3. Adding this script to the default group using rc-update Yes, this seems like an unnecessary kludge to me. I have several servers all using software RAID, udev and 2.6 kernels (all are SCSI, one is SATA) without any problems. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
Hi, On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:56:18 +1000 Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I backed down to 1024xsomething: vertical lines were scalloped/wavy. Someone mentioned this would be a timing issue, but I don't know what I'd do to microadjust timing? xvidtune? I'll try it. That won't help. I'm currently using a mystique and am having the very same problem. It's _very_ easy to circumvent but requires a recompile of xorg. The fix still hasn't made it into xorg CVS. Maybe time to write another bug report. But i think I remember having written one for XFree86, which behaved the same way. I was told that it was merely a timing issue but AFAIK this isn't configurable und it was fixed in 4.5. But I never tried that out. To fix the issue, I usually did the following: 1. $ emerge xorg-x11 waited after the moment when everything is unpacked and patched and hit CTRL-Z 2. $ vi /var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11.../work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/mga/mga_storm.c search for the lines: |/* MGAISBUSY() reportedly causes a freeze for Mystique revision 2 and older */ |if (!(pMga-Chipset == PCI_CHIP_MGA1064 (pMga-ChipRev = 0 pMga-ChipRev = 2))) |while(MGAISBUSY()); Reading the comment exactly, it is easy to fix it (i.e. it couldn't work for Rev. 2): |if (!(pMga-Chipset == PCI_CHIP_MGA1064 (pMga-ChipRev = 0 pMga-ChipRev 2))) (i.e., changing = 2 to 2) 3. $ fg to continue the suspended emerge job I'd suggest making a binary package and saving it somewhere... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Iptables related] How to make one machine only talk on loc lan
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: Machines 3-5 are heavy hitters for graphics work and are heavily loaded with such things as Photoshop, vegas, canopus Edius, Adobe Illustrator and the like. I don't want to have to worry about spyware,adware,virus prevention firewall stuff competing for resources with the graphics tools. Instead I'd like to prevent those three from contacting the internet. I want to isolate mch3-5 to only the local network. Any simple off-the-shelf NAT router will do that. But preventing updates (espec. if they're Windoze boxes) seems like a bad idea to me. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Webserer monitoring tools
Hi List: I have just purchased a refurbished PC - PIII, 450, 128mb ram, Network card, 10GB. Also just purchased Broadband connection (2mb's, upsteam 288kbps) I want to use the machine as a webserver over the broadband. and host my own site (which currently runs on a free ISP) As it's a low spec machine and I don't want the website to run totally crap, I'm thinking to use Gentoo's flexibility and speed to install it as a totally dedicated webserver(Apache,PHP,PERL). As long as it can take about 6-8 users on at a time without struggling this will be fine. Does anyone have any advice about monitoring software/apache modules that I can use to check how many connections, connection speed, resources (CPU) so I can monitor how the webservers doing, if it's getting overloaded etc. Hope this is an appropriate forum (I've just subscribed so not sure), if not any suggestions. Many Thanks Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities
A. Khattri wrote: GeoTrust claim to have their root cert in 99% of the browsers out there... Claims and actually works are two different things. For the record IE 5 on the Mac is your big problem child. If it works with a particular cert *AND* the SSL options/env you're passing then you're pretty much golden. However I'd still take 30 seconds to install the chain cert because I'm paranoid like that. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
On Saturday 19 Nov 2005 8:40 pm, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if you do not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user chosed all of his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN. What? What kind of theory is that? I am using GNU/Linux/OSS because I don't want to run into BSODs that Windows presented me every morning when I woke up or updating Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware and lots of other anti's just so that I can use my system comfortably. Learning is NOT my primary concern...it is just a by-product. What should I do? Stop using OSS and move back to the hell of Windows? Abhay pgpiTKJ3wHyqC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting
On 11/19/05, sempsteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for later works. Now i'm updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize that ccache is adjusting permissions for 4 times per package; before merge, before unmerge of existing packages, after unmerge and after merge. It's something like this: --- !targe sym /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache original instance of package unmerged safely. First, there is no need to post your message multiple times. Gmail doesn't show your own postings to mailing lists, so you will not see your message until someone resonds. Also, you should only post in plain text...no HTML/Rich formatting. The Adjusting permissions is done in /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py. Basically, it makes sure that the ccache directory is owned by root:portage, and is group writable. If you use userpriv, it does the same thing, but for owner portage:portage. Actually, there is a problem in the code in that it also looks for the SETGUID bit, but doesn't set it. So if you want to avoid this, you can set the SETGUID bit with: chmod -R 02770 /root/.ccache -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting
First, there is no need to post your message multiple times. I didn't know that i sent it multiple times?. I've sent one to gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org by mistake and when i figure out this i wrote another one to gentoo-user@gentoo.org. From your message i see that both are the same way. I'm realy sorry about this. Also, you should only post in plain text...no HTML/Rich formatting. You're right, sorry again. I'll never do that again. And thank for your considerations and answer. On 11/19/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/19/05, sempsteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for later works. Now i'm updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize that ccache is adjusting permissions for 4 times per package; before merge, before unmerge of existing packages, after unmerge and after merge. It's something like this: --- !targe sym /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache original instance of package unmerged safely. First, there is no need to post your message multiple times. Gmail doesn't show your own postings to mailing lists, so you will not see your message until someone resonds. Also, you should only post in plain text...no HTML/Rich formatting. The Adjusting permissions is done in /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py. Basically, it makes sure that the ccache directory is owned by root:portage, and is group writable. If you use userpriv, it does the same thing, but for owner portage:portage. Actually, there is a problem in the code in that it also looks for the SETGUID bit, but doesn't set it. So if you want to avoid this, you can set the SETGUID bit with: chmod -R 02770 /root/.ccache -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gtk 1.2
Hello!! :-) Thanks to all for the previous answers about my login problems. I have another problem :-) (as you can see I'm day and night configuring my new gentoo system...) The problem is GTK! I'm installing Pro/Engineer (proprietary soft.) and it needs gtk 1.2 The thing is that I don't know how to get it in order to be compatible with the 2.0 one... I've downloaded the sources, but it doesn't compile properly and, anyway, I think that's not the way of doing things. So, it asks me for gtk-1.2.so.0 (cannot found error and so on) What should I do? I've allready tried making links for the libraries it is asking me from newer versions. THANKS AGAIN! .alvaro.castro. __ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync
Nagatoro wrote: Cédric FINANCE wrote: The Link quality is not supported by the driver (ndiswrapper). I am connected to an irc server and I have no problems. I don't think that the problem come from the wireless connection. It might have something to do with the rsync protocol, the modem or my ISP. But I don't know how to figure out where the problem is. The only time I've seen this has been if the link has gone down or if the rsync server is under heavy load (i.e. if I run an emerge on my server and try to sync against it at the same time). Try and download a big file with ftp and see how the throughput is. This should show if it's a modem/ISP problem or a rsync one. I fetched vmware-workstation and got 180kB/s. Btw when I first got my wireless it constantly lost connection ( 5 connected 1 not connected, 5 seconds connected...) but that was solved by changing the channel for the wireless link. It doesn't seems that I lose the connection to the access point. What's strange is that the rsync always stop after 272 files downloaded even during the 3 retries. ___ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync
the modem or my ISP. But I don't know how to figure out where the problem is. do you have a LAN as well? You could try that out. Otherwise I would look for an alternative .inf file to use with ndiswrapper (from windows NT instead of windows XP for example), or look for a native linux driver for your network card. My wireless card is a Dlink 510 ( or 610) . The chipset is a rtl8180 with pciids changed. I use the windows rtl8180 driver (the driver from dlink is buggy: uses all cpu when access point unreachable). There is a native driver in portage (rtl8180) but I didn't manage to make it work : can't connect to the access point and it floods syslog. I'll try to rsync without my wireless card. HTH, ___ Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez cette version sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtk 1.2
The GTK+ ebuild is SLOTed, which means that you can install multiple versions as needed. If you need GTK+ 1.2, you could try something such as: # emerge =gtk-1.2* Hope that helps. --Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtk 1.2
Peter wrote: # emerge =gtk-1.2* Hrm. That should be gtk+, not gtk. # emerge =gtk+-1.2* Sorry about that. :-) --Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to find if a program is using a particular /dev device?
Excellent. That's very helpful as well. Michael On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:48:19 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was it. Thanks! M you could also try strace -eopen programname It will give a pretty verbose account of what files are opened by programname. (and of course devices, like everything else, are files) On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, John Myers wrote: On Thursday 17 November 2005 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a custom device driver in /dev/ that can only be used by one program at a time. Since the device is /dev/ttyUSB0, I can see if anyone is using it by: ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep ttyUSB0 Is there a utility or other better way I can discover which process, or better, which program, is using a particular device? Thanks, Michael try lsof -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] how to create a .igz file?
dear friends, append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap cdroot how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel compiled modules).so please help me to create this file. note: all advices are welcome -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-sinhalese-r1 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a .igz file?
El Nino wrote: dear friends, append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap cdroot how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel compiled modules).so please help me to create this file. what's the problem? can't you boot? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] how to create initial ramdisk image?
dear friends, how to create initial ramdisk image for preloading modules? [i saw this kind of file(.igz) on Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd.] my previouse question--- On 11/20/05, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Nino wrote: dear friends, append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap cdroot how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel compiled modules).so please help me to create this file. what's the problem? can't you boot? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-sinhalese-r1 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[pl ignore] [gentoo-user] how to create a .igz file?
On 11/20/05, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Nino wrote: dear friends, append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap cdroot how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel compiled modules).so please help me to create this file. what's the problem? can't you boot? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- ... The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today? \^__^ \ (oo) \___ (__) \ )\/\ | |-w | | || | 2.6.14-gentoo-sinhalese-r1 (((o)))~--~--~-- Proud to be a Sinhalese. SINHALESE ARE GENIUSES OF IRRIGATION http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~sydney/sinhales.htm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 abhay wrote: What? What kind of theory is that? Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly. I didn't mean to say that use gnu/linux/oss for the purpose of learning. However you can't argue that one gets to learn a lot from simply using it. So, to clarify: Learning is the answer to the question, and, *on the other hand*, the whole point of using free, open source software, is usually to get hands-on software on a lower level than in windows like platforms. That's what I wanted to say. Most gnu/linux/oss users like screwing up their systems :P - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDf8fsAlpOsGhXcE0RAr4mAJ9C8/3s5ATk0V9PfZS+cqCtQ06FiwCeM4EF rCMkS6V2852nXDU+DsrxxYU= =8wi9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
List members - I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing. It is trying to re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available (kdelibs-3.3.2-r7). I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the package. Does anybody have any suggestions? Also I am running KDE 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using kde3 libs? *** Start Error Message *** All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot --nodeps =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 .. Calculating dependencies emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7. *** End Error Message *** Thanks so much, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Colby wrote: 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using kde3 libs? *** Start Error Message *** All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot --nodeps =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 Remove all .revdep* and run revdep-rebuild again. It will provide a list of files that do not dynamic link. Get that list. Then use equery belongs FILENAME and see what package has that file. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDf8/uAlpOsGhXcE0RAjdtAJ4mjAGxEcdF+PzlJ+J1LYwoaH2qtgCdHpnd XzYthdNY4oN/bzrlsA6D+Uk= =Uv3k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
James Colby wrote: List members - I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing. It is trying to re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available (kdelibs-3.3.2-r7). I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the package. Does anybody have any suggestions? Also I am running KDE 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using kde3 libs? Obvious question... Is your system up to-date? your last sync? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On 11/19/05, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Colby wrote: List members - I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing. It is trying to re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available (kdelibs-3.3.2-r7). I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the package. Does anybody have any suggestions? Also I am running KDE 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using kde3 libs? Obvious question... Is your system up to-date? your last sync? Yes, I sync my tree every night. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef: and, *on the other hand*, the whole point of using free, open source software, is usually to get hands-on software on a lower level than in windows like platforms. That's what I wanted to say. Most gnu/linux/oss users like screwing up their systems :P I understand your point, Arturo, but (list-- save this mail, becaue this is likely the only time you'll ever hear me play devil's advocate on this issue, and you'll want the proof if you ever want to throw it up in my face) you're just not right. What you're basically saying is that Linux is for geeks and aspiring geeks (who enjoy and have time to screw up their systems and get hands-on software on a lower level than in Windows-like platforms), and even if this 1) was historically true; 2) is in some respects still philosophically true, it is not *functionally* true at this time, and it will become less functionally true as time goes on. The general thrust of the OSS/GNU/Linux movement at this time is distinctly towards attaining some kind of comfort zone for former Windows users, and former/current Windows users do not care to get hands-on software, they do not care to screw up their systems (since that means a reformat and reinstall most of the time), and they are paralyzed like a deer in the headlights of an oncoming semi at the very mention of CLI or ($DEITY forfend) man pages (that must be read via the CLI). These are people who cannot conceive that breaking X does not mean you can't use your system (because under their previous OS, the GUI *was* the OS, not like here where X is just another program). To increase our userbase, the users must come from the proprietary OSes-- it's not like there's a whole herd of loose first-time users just roaming the plains. These are owned users, some of whom have realized that the barn is burning down around them and have the good sense to run. That doesn't mean that they are capable of coping in the wild, just because they have been forced out into it, and it doesn't mean that they ran out into the wild because they wanted to be free. I admit the reason I first dual-booted was because I personally never liked Windows, and hated the inability to understand what my system was doing. But the reason I've stayed with Linux is not because I like screwing up my system; it's because I really really hate Microsoft's policies and I refuse to submit to them, and I'm willing to take a h-e-double-hockey-sticks of a lot of pain (and it has been painful at times, and-- at many fewer times-- it still is) to back my own refusal. I admit I enjoy the triumph of overcoming the many obstacles I've encountered in this journey, but I'm just weird (very hardheaded. That doesn't mean I ram my head into walls for *fun*, though). Most average users have no interest in overcoming obstacles just to I dunno, rip a DVD (you don't want to know how painful it was learning how to use transcode, or how long it took), or to play Morrowind or Need for Speed Most Wanted. And I can't and don't blame them for that, nor do I expect them to be like me. They are going to have to change to some extent if they want to switch, that's true. There's no other way, and it's unfortunate that most average users are completely unaware of the gravity of changing their OS before they do it. But that's not the same as expecting them to magically *be* different than what they were, and have different expectations than what they've had their entire computing life, just because they switched to Linux, for reasons that are their own, not yours or mine. Tolerance is difficult too, but the first step is recognizing that different people are actually different-- and then finding a way to live with that. We're still working on that second part. SuSE has one way, Ubuntu has another, Linspire has a third direction, and Gentoo yet a fourth. But it's very much not as if a SuSE user wants to get hands-on with their system (you really hardly can do that with SuSE). Surely a Linspire user is not prepared in any way to do so (the Linspire target market is most definitively not the geekish), and even Gentoo users complain(ed) about the complexities and length of installation, despite the extraordinarily copious documentation (perhaps no longer so much needed with the recent switch to Stage 3 default). So no, I do wish I could agree with you (it would certainly be a more comfortable environment for me than what we actually have in terms of geek-friendliness), but I just cannot. Holly -- Then anyone who leaves behind him a written manual, and likewise anyone who receives it, in the belief that such writing will be clear and certain, must be exceedingly simple-minded. (Plato) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to create initial ramdisk image?
On 11/19/05, El Nino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear friends, how to create initial ramdisk image for preloading modules? [i saw this kind of file(.igz) on Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd.] my previouse mkinitrd. mkinitrd. If that doesn't do what you want, it is just a shell script, so you can modify it pretty easily. If that doesn't do what you want, it is just a shell script, so you can modify it pretty easily. BTW, why do you post questions twice? BTW, why do you post questions twice? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] confused udev?
On 11/18/05, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already set RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=no, following Richards' suggestion. I didn't boot from a CD and cleaned /dev yet, but I'll give it a try. Meanwhile, I upgraded the kernel and added a config option (for firewire) that was missing (for supporting HD's). The nodes /dev/external_hd and /dev/external_hd1 exist now, but as for the memstick, only /dev/plextor_memstick (no /dev/plextor_memstick1, meaning no mounting). Chaos, as I said. According to the dmesg output you posted earlier, your memory stick is not partitioned. This is ok, some are, some are not. You can confirm this by taking a look at /proc/partitions when it is inserted, or the output of fdisk -l. So, only getting /dev/plextor_memstick is probably correct, and you should mount that, not plextor_memstick1. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On 11/19/05, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Colby wrote: 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using kde3 libs? *** Start Error Message *** All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot --nodeps =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 Remove all .revdep* and run revdep-rebuild again. It will provide a list of files that do not dynamic link. Get that list. Then use equery belongs FILENAME and see what package has that file. Thanks, revdep-rebuild did give me the list of files that would not link, and equery belongs FILENAME tells me that the files are part of the kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 package. Is there a way for me to find out which packages on my system depend on kdelibs-3.3.2-r7? Thanks, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On 11/19/05, James Colby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, revdep-rebuild did give me the list of files that would not link, and equery belongs FILENAME tells me that the files are part of the kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 package. Is there a way for me to find out which packages on my system depend on kdelibs-3.3.2-r7? man equery (look for 'depends') -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
James Colby schreef: Thanks, revdep-rebuild did give me the list of files that would not link, and equery belongs FILENAME tells me that the files are part of the kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 package. Is there a way for me to find out which packages on my system depend on kdelibs-3.3.2-r7? Thanks, James Am I missing the reason you don't just upgrade to a version of KDE 3.3.2 which *is* in Portage? It's not as if kdelibs has radically changed its contents between revisions of kdelibs-3.3.2-r-whatever: eix kdelibs * kde-base/kdelibs Available versions: 3.3.2-r10 3.4.1-r1 3.4.1-r2 3.4.2 3.4.2-r1 3.4.3 [M]3.5_beta1-r1 [M]3.5.0_beta2 [M]3.5.0_rc1 Installed: 3.4.3 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/ Description: KDE libraries needed by all kde programs The current revision of the 3.3.2 series is -r10, an upgrade from -r7. I suppose you could unmerge -r7 first, but frankly I don't see why it wouldn't suffice to simply do an emerge -ua** kdelibs and then re-run revdep-rebuild. Has the overwhelmingly obvious reason that this is not doable somehow escaped me (always possible)? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:57:12PM -0600, kashani wrote The Mystique has 4mb of RAM upgradeable to 8mb IIRC. It was likely new in '95-'96 as I scraped together $140 to by the slightly better Matrox Millennium used off Ebay in '96. The Mystique did not do well at higher resolutions, which is why I went with the Millennium. I'd shoot for 800x600 and go from there. 1024x768 at 24bits (16 million colours) should be doable. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, James Colby wrote: List members - I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing. It is trying to re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available (kdelibs-3.3.2-r7). I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the package. Does anybody have any suggestions? Also I am running KDE 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using kde3 libs? I just ran into this problem last night. I ran equery depends kdelibs made sure NONE of them specifically depended on kdelibs-3.3.2 (in my case they were all compiled against kdelibs-3.4.x during a few of the past update cycles). then I just emerge unmerge =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 and revdep-rebuild stops complaining. W -- Another world, another day, another dawn. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 7 days, 20:10 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox out of memory
Hum, I came home today to find the firefox instance that has been running for 3 or 4 days killed. Apparently it was an out of memory thing. Dmesg gave the following oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2 DMA per-cpu: cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1 cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1 Normal per-cpu: cpu 0 hot: low 32, high 96, batch 16 cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 32, batch 16 HighMem per-cpu: empty Free pages:5084kB (0kB HighMem) Active:59562 inactive:60153 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 free:1271 slab:4128 mapped:118884 pagetables:1131 DMA free:2068kB min:88kB low:108kB high:132kB active:4656kB inactive:4340kB present:16384kB pages_scanned:10016 all_unreclaimable? yes lowmem_reserve[]: 0 495 495 Normal free:3016kB min:2800kB low:3500kB high:4200kB active:233592kB inactive:236272kB present:507136kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:160kB high:192kB active:0kB inactive:0kB present:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0 DMA: 1*4kB 0*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 2068kB Normal: 94*4kB 8*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3016kB HighMem: empty Swap cache: add 501655, delete 501655, find 340263/374434, race 0+0 Free swap = 0kB Total swap = 787176kB Out of Memory: Killed process 14074 (firefox-bin). Can anyone tell me what that means? This is the first time that firefox has actually been killed by the kernel for going out of memory, and there have been times when I left a firefox window open for much longer (weeks at times). Thanks, W -- If you buy the paperback version of Maxwell's _Treatise_, on the cover, this diagram is drawn... worked out in the 1870's, without a pocket calculator... ~Prof. Kirk T. McDonald, DeathEM, P-town PHY 304 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 7 days, 20:53 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails
I just ran into this problem last night. I ran equery depends kdelibs made sure NONE of them specifically depended on kdelibs-3.3.2 (in my case they were all compiled against kdelibs-3.4.x during a few of the past update cycles). then I just emerge unmerge =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 and revdep-rebuild stops complaining. W -- Another world, another day, another dawn. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 7 days, 20:10 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list List - Thank you everyone for all of your help, unmerging the package fixed my problem. -James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] divx4linux
List Members - I have another question. I can't seem to find the divx4linux package anymore. I am trying to install it and emerge can't find it. It also does not appear to be available as a use flag for mplayer any more. Did the package change names, or am I just really tired and missing something here? Thanks again for everything, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox out of memory
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:36, Willie Wong wrote: Hum, I came home today to find the firefox instance that has been running for 3 or 4 days killed. Apparently it was an out of memory thing. Can anyone tell me what that means? This is the first time that firefox has actually been killed by the kernel for going out of memory, and there have been times when I left a firefox window open for much longer (weeks at times). Firefox is pretty good. but in the past I've had a similar problem, running out of memory, with lots of tabs being opend/closed and several windows. At the time there was a memory link relating to the tabs, and I'm not sure thats been fixed yet. Maybee bugzilla can help...or try http://forums.mozillazine.org/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout broke my system
Hello everyone, I updated to something like baselayout pre9-r2 a few days ago and I immediately started getting this on boot up right after Checking root filesystem: did you also upgrade glibc to 2.3.6? Apparently there's some behaviour with glibc and recent versions of portage that really screw things up. More info here http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112082 It may not be your issue, but HTH! If you ran etc-update did you check /etc/fstab I checked /etc/fstab and it looked fine. I tried upgrading to baselayout-1.12.0_pre10-r1 with the same results. I was able to fix it by downgrading back to baselayout-1.12.0_pre9-r1. Should I just keep trying to upgrade when a new version is released and then roll back if it still breaks? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] divx4linux
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:52:24PM -0500, James Colby wrote: List Members - I have another question. I can't seem to find the divx4linux package anymore. I am trying to install it and emerge can't find it. It also does not appear to be available as a use flag for mplayer any more. Did the package change names, or am I just really tired and missing something here? I am pretty sure it got absorbed into ffmpeg or something. I remember reading about the change on b.g.o. sometime in the last week. To enable it there might be a use flag you need to set, but I don't quite remember. W -- There's a new rule for simplifying equations : if the term doesn't fit on the paper, drop it. ~DeathMech, Some Student. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 7 days, 21:45 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:51:36AM -0600, John Jolet wrote On Nov 19, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote: What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's the gain - in *THAT* scenario? I'm not sure about you, but I can think of MANY times over my career when I set up a box to do just one thing or for just one person and down the road all of a sudden, I needed another thing or another person. Retrofitting pam onto a running, configured system is not something I'd care to attempt. Having pam on from the beginning, if you don't fiddle with the defaults, poses no extra complexity. But then, I'm a belt and suspenders man. This is my personal home machine. I'm the only user on it. I do not run publicly visible servers. I've set iptables to block incoming connections, excepting a small hole for my backup machine (6-year-old Dell) so I can ssh/scp backups back and forth. I've also set my ADSL modem/router to block *ALL* incoming connections, and *ALL* external inbound traffic to ports 0..1023. My ISP allows externally visible servers, but I haven't bothered to do so. It's also conventional wisdom that you do *NOT* mix server apps and a standard desktop on the same machine. If I ever do decide to run a publicly-visible server, I'll get a used machine and run it on that, and configure that machine from the ground up as a server. There are still 2 free ethernet ports on the back of my ADSL router/modem. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 12:10:42PM -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote Alexander Skwar wrote: What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's the gain - in *THAT* scenario? Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if you do not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user chosed all of his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN. It's not that I don't want to learn. What I want to learn may be different from what you want to learn. I'm at the tail end of some experiments with de-noising digital photos from my camera. I've learned a lot about ImageMagick's convert command. It is one seriously powerful image manipulation toolset. My next personal project will be learning postgresql. I am familiar with Oracle SQL and PL/SQL. I'm not a CS, but at work I do write quite a few read-only queries. We've got Access via ODBC as well, but once you get past the really simple stuff, GUI Query By Example runs into a wall. Anyone aware of any postgresql user groups in the Toronto area? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Automatically mounting USB mass storage devices (camera)
Jose Maria Alvarez Fernandez schrieb: I'm having a similar problem with ivman, and i've discovered that the reason is that the camera has an id label that has a space, ie: LEXAR MEDIA. That's not right for pmount, and when ivman tries to mount it, fails. But it works for other usb devices. Does it work for you? Also, i had to upgrade to a CVS version of hal in order to get everything to work again with 2.6.14 (you can find one ebuild in fluidportage). How did you read the id label? ivman used to work for me - on a different PC but with the same USB camera and also some time ago, thus with different versions of everything. On my notebook, I used to be able to plugin USB devices (namely this USB camera) and it got mounted - without ivman and without pmount. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list