Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-19 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Benno Schulenberg wrote:

Well, somewhere deep in the BIOS peripheral settings, there are 
things like Enable AGP Fast Write or similar.  Set all those 
things to Off or Disabled.  You wil want stability first, speed 
maybe later.  It probably won't make a difference, but it at least 
excludes one possible source of problems.


Yeah, those were all disabled when I was running Unichrome. I've turned 
them all on for NVIDIA though. No stability problems.


You've said you have an MSI K8M800 motherboard.  Looking at 
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_list.asp?class=mbcpu=3, such 
boards only support Sempron 2600+, 2800+, 3000+, 3100+, 3300+, 
not a 2500+.  This may not be a problem, but then again, it might 
not be listed for a reason.


H. Well I checked the motherboard manual when I bought this computer 
and it says Supports AMD K8 64 bit processors (Socket 754).



No sse USE flag?  You could try adding it and re-emerging Xorg.


Well, 3dnow, mmx and sse are all masked in the amd64 profile anyway...


To confirm your exact CPU, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo'.


It is an AMD Sempron 2500+


An 'lsmod' on this system under Gentoo.


Module  Size  Used by
w83627hf   34984  0
eeprom  8784  0
i2c_sensor  3840  2 w83627hf,eeprom
i2c_isa 2816  0
snd_seq_oss36608  0
snd_seq_midi_event  8320  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq56896  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss55712  0
snd_mixer_oss  18880  1 snd_pcm_oss
ohci_hcd   21316  0
snd_via82xx29312  4
snd_ac97_codec 91352  1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm97420  5 snd_pcm_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer  25544  3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 11144  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 8320  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi28448  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 10064  3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd60200  16 
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device

i2c_viapro  9300  0
i2c_core   23704  5 
w83627hf,eeprom,i2c_sensor,i2c_isa,i2c_viapro

ehci_hcd   31944  0
uhci_hcd   33568  0
8139too28800  0
nvidia   4055676  12

This is the current one. Back with Unichrome, I had via and drm loaded 
in place of nvidia.


Nothing fancy in there I guess.


An 'emerge -pv xorg-x11'.


[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4  (-3dfx) (-3dnow) 
+bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server 
-insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal (-mmx) +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk 
(-sse) -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB 




A 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'.


This is errr one of the xorg.conf files used of Unichrome. The other one 
had dri disabled, that's all...


Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath  /usr/lib64/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/lib64/modules
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
EndSection

Section Module
Load  xtrap
Load  dbe
Load  glx
Load  dri
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  type1
Load  freetype
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc105
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol IMPS/2
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
# Option  Emulate3Buttons yes
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   LG Electronics
ModelNameStudioWorks 700i
HorizSync30 - 70
VertRefresh  50 - 160
Option   dpms
EndSection

Section Device
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option ShadowFB  # [bool]
#Option VGAClocks # [bool]
#Option KGAUniversal  # [bool]
Identifier  Videocard0
Driver  via
VendorName  VIA Technologies, Inc.
BoardName   S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
Option  ForcePCIMode True
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Videocard0

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.. twm not starting and terrible performance with fluxbox

2005-11-19 Thread Mrugesh Karnik

Benno Schulenberg wrote:

You've said you have an MSI K8M800 motherboard.  Looking at 
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_list.asp?class=mbcpu=3, such 
boards only support Sempron 2600+, 2800+, 3000+, 3100+, 3300+, 
not a 2500+.  This may not be a problem, but then again, it might 
not be listed for a reason.


http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=647

That's the motherboard actually. K8M800-CE is the chipset name from VIA.

Mrugesh
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[gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting

2005-11-19 Thread sempsteen
Hi,
I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for future works. Now
i'm updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize
that ccache is adjusting permissions before and after for all packages,
it's something like this:

 media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 merged.
* Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache

 clean: No packages selected for removal.

 emerge (105 of 405) media-libs/jpeg-6b-r5 to /
* Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache

My question is about this adjusting process, each adjusting process
longs about 4 to 5 seconds. For whole update this makes 54 to 67.5
minutes and if this really is only an permission adjusting process i
thought this is just loosing time. Can you help to understand this and
if there is a settings for this that i missed would you show me?

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My make.conf file
---

CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j2
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/
http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo
http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/
http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ http://gentoo.intergenia.de
http://mirror.aiya.ru/pub/gentoo/ http://ftp.citkit.ru/pub/Linux/gentoo
http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/gentoo/
SYNC=rsync://rsync.de.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=-3dfx -3dnow -3dnowext -afs -aim -qt -kde -ipv6 -nsplugin -doc
-debug -spell -arts oss esd unicode gnome alsa mmx sse sse2 nls X gtk
gtk2
PORT_LOGDIR=/home/portage/logs
CLEAN_DELAY=0
FEATURES=ccache
CCACHE_SIZE=2G
CCACHE_DIR=/root/.ccache


[gentoo-user] monitoring ppp0 with mrtg

2005-11-19 Thread Kevin Verma
Hello,

I am trying to monitor a standard dial-up connection as ppp0
(non-static ip) with mrtg. I can generate a cfg file, but find ppp0 as
disabled. Can some one please suggest a suitable configuartion syntax
for ppp0.

I have followed setup instructions from Gentoo wiki, and had a
particular requirement of ppp0 as an add on to this. (
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_SNMP_and_MRTG_Made_Easy )

Thanks very much for reading,

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 ***

2005-11-19 Thread fire-eyes
Michael Sullivan wrote:
 On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 15:00 -0500, fire-eyes wrote:
 
Michael Sullivan wrote:

I don't really know who to ask about this error.  I searched for an
explanation on Google and it gave me a link to the Gentoo German forums,
so I thought maybe someone here could help me with this.

I wrote a Qt program.  It compiles just fine, but when I try to run it I
get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/c++/myFantasy/main/src $ ./src
*** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1
***
Aborted


Being fairly inexperienced with C++ I have no idea what this means.  Is
this a problem with my program or with my system.  Is there a way to fix
it?  Can anyone at least explain to me what it means?

Are you running a grsecurity and or pax kernel?

I get this kind of crap left and right with it... Sometimes. Very
unpredictable. Very annoying.

 
 
 I don't know what grsecurity or pax kernel are.  I use genkernel.
 Here's the output of my uname:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
 Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 #1 Thu Nov 17 07:30:09 CST 2005 i686
 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 
 
 Out of curiosity, how do you get around this error?
 

Well, you aren't running one then :) As for getting around, I haven't
figured out a way. It's very frustrating to note that I haven't been
able to ever find help about this. Makes one feel on your own...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatically mounting USB mass storage devices (camera)

2005-11-19 Thread Jose Maria Alvarez Fernandez
I'm having a similar problem with ivman, and i've discovered that the 
reason is that the camera has an id label that has a space, ie: LEXAR 
MEDIA. That's not right for pmount, and when ivman tries to mount it, 
fails. But it works for other usb devices. Does it work for you?
Also, i had to upgrade to a CVS version of hal in order to get 
everything to work again with 2.6.14 (you can find one ebuild in 
fluidportage).


Hope it helps!

Alexander Skwar wrote:

Norberto Bensa schrieb:


Alexander Skwar wrote:


Norberto Bensa schrieb:


Alexander Skwar wrote:


dbus-0.50-r1


downgrade to 0.36.2



ivman-0.6.5


downgrade to 0.6.4


Done. Still no automount.


Have you restarted dbus?



Yes :(

How's that automounting supposed to work? When does pmount
kick in? How do I make dbus/hald/whatever start pmount (or
whatever...) to do the actual mount?

Alexander Skwar

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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Alexander Skwar schreef:
 Patrick McLean schrieb:
 
 
 Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a
 modern Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it.
 
 
 What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one (human)
 user on the system and the system acts as a consumer (ie. no
 servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's the gain - in *THAT*
 scenario?
 

What I found even worse than the irrelevancy of PAM in that situation
(which is mine), was what Walter Dnes mentioned:

 everything you know is wrong when it comes to config files all over
 the place.  You end up using entirely several different config files
 to control access.

When PAM broke for me (as it did for so many others) during the Great
PAM Debacle of a year or two ago, I was *shocked* to discover that I
knew nothing at all about PAM configuration, and couldn't figure out
anything about PAM configuration--despite having used Gentoo for a
couple of years already and having figured out plenty of things that I
had previously known nothing about.

I was forced to stand by and watch as my authentication protocols
progressively broke-- first GUI su (programs that pop up a dialog to
give root privileges), then my DE login, then my console login. What
distressed me the most-- even more than having to install another
distro in order to ultimately do an alternative reinstall-- was that it
was clear that PAM was mission-critical yet the first I ever heard
of/dealt with it was when it broke. That seemed so un-Gentoo-like to me
that I totally lost my bearings about the whole issue.

By the time I got back from my dalliance with SuSE, people had figured
out how to run a PAM-free system, ebuilds that had previously depended
on PAM now had PAM optional and I was free to put -pam in my USE flags
and hope to have a working system. Which I did, and do.

I'm sure that PAM has a function, and that function is important for
those who need a lot of authentication protocols to be passed to their
machine (as in the case of servers that need to be protected). But for
the average Jill or Joe like me, who runs no servers and doesn't have to
ever do things like ssh into my machine (because I'm sitting right
here), I think it's overkill and in this case, rather dangerous
overkill, because if this unnecessary set of protocols ever does break
(again), the average Jill or Joe is quite up the creek without a paddle.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 ***

2005-11-19 Thread David Morgan
On 06:44 Sat 19 Nov , fire-eyes wrote:
 Well, you aren't running one then :) As for getting around, I haven't
 figured out a way. It's very frustrating to note that I haven't been
 able to ever find help about this. Makes one feel on your own...

It's not kernel related, it's glibc telling you that you screwed up with
memory allocation somewhere.

The only 'fix' is to fix your code, so no one can help without seeing it
(apart from maybe listing some common mistakes that cause this).

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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread John Jolet


On Nov 19, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote:


Patrick McLean schrieb:

Running a system withoug pam is a rather strange thing to do on a  
modern

Linux system, and I can think of very few reasons to do it.


What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one
(human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer
(ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's
the gain - in *THAT* scenario?



I'm not sure about you, but I can think of MANY times over my career  
when I set up a box to do just one thing or for just one person  
and down the road all of a sudden, I needed another thing or another  
person.  Retrofitting pam onto a running, configured system is not  
something I'd care to attempt.  Having pam on from the beginning, if  
you don't fiddle with the defaults, poses no extra complexity.  But  
then, I'm a belt and suspenders man.



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Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 ***

2005-11-19 Thread fire-eyes
David Morgan wrote:

 It's not kernel related, it's glibc telling you that you screwed up with
 memory allocation somewhere.
 
 The only 'fix' is to fix your code, so no one can help without seeing it
 (apart from maybe listing some common mistakes that cause this).

Okay. My difference is that I see this with apps that I didn't write,
which others don't have issues with. But I haven't seen it in a while,
seems to come and go. Doesn't make much sense, and I have checked my
hardware repeatedly.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bash Config files

2005-11-19 Thread darren kirby
quoth the gentuxx:
 Hi all,

 This is sort of a n00bie question, but something I haven't really had
 to mess around with.  I recently did an `emerge world` and after the
 update and a reboot, my root prompt has changed back to the gentoo
 default.  It now seems that the /etc/bashrc and /etc/profile are
 overriding my root's .bashrc and .profile.  In addition to the root
 prompt being changed, it seems that the PATH environment variable
 isn't complete.  _Some_ utilities that are part of the gentoolkit (but
 not all) aren't found in the path (qpkg, equery, etc.).  So what do I
 need to do to set things right, so my local setting override the
 global?  Or is there a reason for this, and I should just modify the
 global, since it has if/else's for root?

 TIA

I have found the best way to deal with this is to add this snippet to the end 
of /etc/profile:

if [ -e ~/.bashrc]; then
. ~/.bashrc
fi

The problem is that you need to add it again when you upgrade baselayout...

 gentux
 echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge'

 gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40  9795 2D81 924A
 6996 0993

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[gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting

2005-11-19 Thread sempsteen
Hi,
I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for later works. Now
i'm updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize
that ccache is adjusting permissions for 4 times per package; before
merge, before unmerge of existing packages, after unmerge and after
merge. It's something like this:


--- !targe sym /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
* Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache
 original instance of package unmerged safely.
* Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache
 Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...
 dev-libs/glib-2.6.5 merged.
* Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache

 clean: No packages selected for removal.

 emerge (133 of 405) x11-libs/pango-1.8.1-r1 to /
* Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache


My question is about this adjusting process, each adjusting process
longs about 5 to 6 seconds. For whole update this makes 135 to 162
minutes and if this really is only an permission adjusting process i
thought this is just loosing time. Can you help to understand this and
if there is a setting for this that i've missed would you show me?



---

My make.conf file

---



CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -mcpu=pentium4 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu

CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

MAKEOPTS=-j2

GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://linux.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/download/gentoo-mirror/

http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo
http://mirrors.sec.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/gentoo/
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/
http://pandemonium.tiscali.de/pub/gentoo/ 
http://gentoo.intergenia.de
http://mirror.aiya.ru/pub/gentoo/ 
http://ftp.citkit.ru/pub/Linux/gentoo
http://ftp.ankara.edu.tr/gentoo/

SYNC=rsync://rsync.de.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage

USE=-3dfx -3dnow -3dnowext -afs -aim -qt -kde -ipv6 -nsplugin -doc
-debug -spell -arts oss esd unicode gnome alsa mmx sse sse2 nls X gtk
gtk2

PORT_LOGDIR=/home/portage/logs

CLEAN_DELAY=0

FEATURES=ccache

CCACHE_SIZE=2G

CCACHE_DIR=/root/.ccache


Re: [gentoo-user] *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1 *** [SOLVED]

2005-11-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 06:44 -0500, fire-eyes wrote:
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
  On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 15:00 -0500, fire-eyes wrote:
  
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
 
 I don't really know who to ask about this error.  I searched for an
 explanation on Google and it gave me a link to the Gentoo German forums,
 so I thought maybe someone here could help me with this.
 
 I wrote a Qt program.  It compiles just fine, but when I try to run it I
 get this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/projects/c++/myFantasy/main/src $ ./src
 *** glibc detected *** malloc(): memory corruption (fast): 0x081fb2c1
 ***
 Aborted
 
 
 Being fairly inexperienced with C++ I have no idea what this means.  Is
 this a problem with my program or with my system.  Is there a way to fix
 it?  Can anyone at least explain to me what it means?
 
 Are you running a grsecurity and or pax kernel?
 
 I get this kind of crap left and right with it... Sometimes. Very
 unpredictable. Very annoying.
 
  
  
  I don't know what grsecurity or pax kernel are.  I use genkernel.
  Here's the output of my uname:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ uname -a
  Linux camille 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 #1 Thu Nov 17 07:30:09 CST 2005 i686
  Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
  
  
  Out of curiosity, how do you get around this error?
  
 
 Well, you aren't running one then :) As for getting around, I haven't
 figured out a way. It's very frustrating to note that I haven't been
 able to ever find help about this. Makes one feel on your own...

Actually, I solved the error for my situation last night - I just forgot
to write it in as SOLVED.  I had created a temporary pointer, then
assigned the temporary pointer to a variable I was planning to return
from a method, then deleted the temporary pointer.  I'm not used to
using pointers.  I've always heard that you should always delete your
pointers when you're done with them and for some reason I thought the
delete keyword deleted the pointer instead of the memory it was pointing
at...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating RAID devices - udev question

2005-11-19 Thread Brian Parish
On Saturday 19 November 2005 16:19, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Sunday 13 November 2005 17:33, Brian Parish wrote:
  On Sunday 13 November 2005 17:23, Richard Fish wrote:
   On 11/12/05, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 13 November 2005 01:49, Brian Parish wrote:
 I am trying to add a software RAID 5 disk set to an existing
 machine installed using genkernel. All the RAID support is compiled
 into the kernel, but no /dev/md? device files exist. I can create
 these using mknod and make the RAID, but they don't survive a
 reboot. How do I tell udev to create these files as persistant
 devices?
   
All partitions in the RAID set need to be set to partition type fd
(Linux raid autodetect), then the kernel will build the arrays during
startup.
  
   FYI, this is only true if the raid drivers are compiled into the
   kernel (no modules), and you do _not_ use an initramfs to boot the
   system.  If you use an initramfs, the kernel skips the autodetection
   of raid arrays.
  
   -Richard
 
  I did and it does (skip that is).  Thanks again Richard.
 
  Brian

 Removing the initramfs seemed like the line of least resistance here, so
 being basically lazy, that's what I did.  /dev/md0 is now created and I can
 create my RAID array happily enough.

 This still doesn't survive a reboot though.  i.e. I have to run the mdadm
 --create command again.  I assumed that this required something in
 mdadm.conf, so I updated that with all the magic numbers shown by mdadm -D.
 No change though.  Is this an rc-update issue, or something?

More info on this:  It turns out that the main problem is/was that at the time 
the system is attempting to mount the RAID set, not only has it not been 
assembled, but the devices which compose it do not exist.  /dev/sda, b and c 
are being created sometime later in the boot process.

I have now implemented a smooth work-around by:

1. Setting the RAID in fstab to noauto and no checking
2. Creating a script in /etc/init.d which assembles and mounts the RAID set
3. Adding this script to the default group using rc-update

While this means that everything works nicely, it does seem like a kludge and 
there is presumably a way to have the SATA (SCSI) devices created early in 
the boot process, so that the RAID set can be assembled and ready for the 
entry in fstab to be processed.

cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating RAID devices - udev question

2005-11-19 Thread Mike Williams
On Saturday 19 November 2005 14:15, Brian Parish wrote:
  This still doesn't survive a reboot though.  i.e. I have to run the mdadm
  --create command again.  I assumed that this required something in
  mdadm.conf, so I updated that with all the magic numbers shown by mdadm
  -D. No change though.  Is this an rc-update issue, or something?

 More info on this:  It turns out that the main problem is/was that at the
 time the system is attempting to mount the RAID set, not only has it not
 been assembled, but the devices which compose it do not exist.  /dev/sda, b
 and c are being created sometime later in the boot process.

That's certainly interesting. What SATA card do you have?
If it's got in kernel drivers, having them compiled into the kernel will get 
them setup before raid starts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Alexander Skwar wrote:
 What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one
 (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer
 (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's
 the gain - in *THAT* scenario?

Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if you do not 
want to get messy, then
use windows. Anyway, if this user chosed all of his use flags, then he is 
probably willing to LEARN.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?

2005-11-19 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I will admit that I have a big concern about an upcoming MySQL update
 that is probably going to break my whole TV network here. Due to my
 fear I haven't upgraded MySQL and will likely come back ranting myself
 sometime in December when I'm probably forced to do it. We'll see...

I have upgraded MySQL on several servers (two in production) without any
problems whatsoever...


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities

2005-11-19 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, kashani wrote:

   We've got a number of customers that use Geotrust which is
 significantly cheaper than Verisign/Thwate. Someone also uses Starfield
 which is dirt cheap.

   There is a technical issue when using certs no one has ever heard of
 before. Many times their cert company's root certs or whatever are not
 in the user's browser.

GeoTrust claim to have their root cert in 99% of the browsers out there...



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Re: [gentoo-user] 80211/IPW2200 vs. Kernel 2.6.14

2005-11-19 Thread Bill Roberts
On 21:42 Fri 18 Nov , Matthias Bethke wrote:
 I just noticed the new Gentoo kernel 2.6.14-r2 includes support for both
 the generic 802.11 stack and the Intel IPW2200 driver. I've been using
 the separate ebuilds for these two so far, now I was wondering if
 there's still any advantage to that. Any opinions?

I tried the 2.6.14 kernel with the ipw2200 driver, and it didn't work.
Maybe it was fixed in release 2.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating RAID devices - udev question

2005-11-19 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Brian Parish wrote:

 I have now implemented a smooth work-around by:

 1. Setting the RAID in fstab to noauto and no checking
 2. Creating a script in /etc/init.d which assembles and mounts the RAID set
 3. Adding this script to the default group using rc-update

Yes, this seems like an unnecessary kludge to me.

I have several servers all using software RAID, udev and 2.6 kernels (all
are SCSI, one is SATA) without any problems.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption

2005-11-19 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:56:18 +1000
Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I backed down to 1024xsomething: vertical lines were scalloped/wavy. Someone
 mentioned this would be a timing issue, but I don't know what I'd do to
 microadjust timing? xvidtune? I'll try it.

That won't help. I'm currently using a mystique and am having the very
same problem. It's _very_ easy to circumvent but requires a recompile
of xorg. The fix still hasn't made it into xorg CVS. Maybe time to
write another bug report. But i think I remember having written one for
XFree86, which behaved the same way. I was told that it was merely a
timing issue but AFAIK this isn't configurable und it was fixed in 4.5.
But I never tried that out.

To fix the issue, I usually did the following:
1. $ emerge xorg-x11
   waited after the moment when everything is unpacked and patched and hit 
CTRL-Z
2. $ vi 
/var/tmp/portage/xorg-x11.../work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/mga/mga_storm.c

search for the lines:
|/* MGAISBUSY() reportedly causes a freeze for Mystique revision 2 and older */
|if (!(pMga-Chipset == PCI_CHIP_MGA1064  (pMga-ChipRev = 0  
pMga-ChipRev = 2)))
|while(MGAISBUSY());

Reading the comment exactly, it is easy to fix it (i.e. it couldn't work for 
Rev. 2):
|if (!(pMga-Chipset == PCI_CHIP_MGA1064  (pMga-ChipRev = 0  
pMga-ChipRev  2)))
(i.e., changing = 2 to  2)

3. $ fg
   to continue the suspended emerge job

I'd suggest making a binary package and saving it somewhere...


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Re: [gentoo-user] [Iptables related] How to make one machine only talk on loc lan

2005-11-19 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Machines 3-5 are heavy hitters for graphics work and are heavily
 loaded with such things as Photoshop, vegas, canopus Edius, Adobe
 Illustrator and the like.

 I don't want to have to worry about spyware,adware,virus prevention
 firewall stuff competing for resources with the graphics tools.
 Instead I'd like to prevent those three from contacting the internet.

 I want to isolate mch3-5 to only the local network.

Any simple off-the-shelf NAT router will do that.

But preventing updates (espec. if they're Windoze boxes) seems like a bad
idea to me.


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[gentoo-user] Webserer monitoring tools

2005-11-19 Thread Colin Copley

Hi List:

I have just purchased a refurbished PC - PIII, 450, 128mb ram, Network 
card, 10GB.

Also just purchased Broadband connection (2mb's, upsteam 288kbps)

I want to use the machine as a webserver over the broadband. and host my 
own site (which currently runs on a free ISP) As it's a low spec machine 
and I don't want the website to run totally crap, I'm thinking to use 
Gentoo's flexibility and speed to install it as a totally dedicated 
webserver(Apache,PHP,PERL).  As long as it can take about 6-8 users on 
at a time without struggling this will be fine.


Does anyone have any advice about monitoring software/apache modules 
that I can use to check how many connections, connection speed, 
resources (CPU) so I can monitor how the webservers doing, if it's 
getting overloaded etc.
Hope this is an appropriate forum (I've just subscribed so not sure), if 
not any suggestions.


Many Thanks
Colin

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SSL certificate authorities

2005-11-19 Thread kashani

A. Khattri wrote:

GeoTrust claim to have their root cert in 99% of the browsers out there...


Claims and actually works are two different things.

	For the record IE 5 on the Mac is your big problem child. If it works 
with a particular cert *AND* the SSL options/env you're passing then 
you're pretty much golden. However I'd still take 30 seconds to install 
the chain cert because I'm paranoid like that.


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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread abhay
On Saturday 19 Nov 2005 8:40 pm, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
 Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if you do
 not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user chosed all of
 his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN.
What? What kind of theory is that? I am using GNU/Linux/OSS because I don't 
want to run into BSODs that Windows presented me every morning when I woke up 
or updating Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware and lots of other anti's just so that I 
can use my system comfortably. Learning is NOT my primary concern...it is 
just a by-product. What should I do? Stop using OSS and move back to the hell 
of Windows?

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Re: [gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting

2005-11-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/19/05, sempsteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for later works. Now i'm
 updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize that
 ccache is adjusting permissions for 4 times per package; before merge,
 before unmerge of existing packages, after unmerge and after merge. It's
 something like this:

  --- !targe sym /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
  * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache
   original instance of package unmerged safely.

First, there is no need to post your message multiple times.  Gmail
doesn't show your own postings to mailing lists, so you will not see
your message until someone resonds.  Also, you should only post in
plain text...no HTML/Rich formatting.

The Adjusting permissions is done in /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py. 
Basically, it makes sure that the ccache directory is owned by
root:portage, and is group writable.  If you use userpriv, it does the
same thing, but for owner portage:portage.

Actually, there is a problem in the code in that it also looks for the
SETGUID bit, but doesn't set it.  So if you want to avoid this, you
can set the SETGUID bit with:

chmod -R 02770 /root/.ccache

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Re: [gentoo-user] about ccache permission adjusting

2005-11-19 Thread sempsteen
 First, there is no need to post your message multiple times.
I didn't know that i sent it multiple times?. I've sent one to
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org by mistake and when i figure out this i
wrote another one to gentoo-user@gentoo.org. From your message i see
that both are the same way. I'm realy sorry about this.

 Also, you should only post in plain text...no HTML/Rich formatting.
You're right, sorry again. I'll never do that again.

And thank for your considerations and answer.

On 11/19/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/19/05, sempsteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
   I've changed my CFLAGS settings and merged ccache for later works. Now i'm
  updating my system with emerge -e world. During merge i realize that
  ccache is adjusting permissions for 4 times per package; before merge,
  before unmerge of existing packages, after unmerge and after merge. It's
  something like this:
 
   --- !targe sym /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
   * Adjusting permissions on ccache in /root/.ccache
original instance of package unmerged safely.

 First, there is no need to post your message multiple times.  Gmail
 doesn't show your own postings to mailing lists, so you will not see
 your message until someone resonds.  Also, you should only post in
 plain text...no HTML/Rich formatting.

 The Adjusting permissions is done in /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py.
 Basically, it makes sure that the ccache directory is owned by
 root:portage, and is group writable.  If you use userpriv, it does the
 same thing, but for owner portage:portage.

 Actually, there is a problem in the code in that it also looks for the
 SETGUID bit, but doesn't set it.  So if you want to avoid this, you
 can set the SETGUID bit with:

 chmod -R 02770 /root/.ccache

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[gentoo-user] gtk 1.2

2005-11-19 Thread ÿffffc1lvaro Castro
Hello!! :-)

Thanks to all for the previous answers about my login
problems.

I have another problem :-)  (as you can see I'm day
and night configuring my new gentoo system...)

The problem is GTK! I'm installing Pro/Engineer
(proprietary soft.) and it needs gtk 1.2
The thing is that I don't know how to get it in order
to be compatible with the 2.0 one...

I've downloaded the sources, but it doesn't compile
properly and, anyway, I think that's not the way of
doing things.

So, it asks me for gtk-1.2.so.0 (cannot found error
and so on)

What should I do?

I've allready tried making links for the libraries it
is asking me from newer versions.


THANKS AGAIN!

.alvaro.castro.



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync

2005-11-19 Thread Cédric FINANCE

Nagatoro wrote:


Cédric FINANCE wrote:

The Link quality is not supported by the driver (ndiswrapper). I am 
connected to an irc server and I have no problems. I don't think that 
the problem come from the wireless connection. It might have 
something to do with the rsync protocol, the modem or my ISP. But I 
don't know how to figure out where the problem is.



The only time I've seen this has been if the link has gone down or if 
the rsync server is under heavy load (i.e. if I run an emerge on my 
server and try to sync against it at the same time).


Try and download a big file with ftp and see how the throughput is. 
This should show if it's a modem/ISP problem or a rsync one.


I fetched vmware-workstation and got 180kB/s.



Btw when I first got my wireless it constantly lost connection ( 5 
connected 1 not connected, 5 seconds connected...) but that was solved 
by changing the channel for the wireless link.



It doesn't seems that I lose the connection to the access point.
What's strange is that the rsync always stop after 272 files downloaded
even during the 3 retries.






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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge sync

2005-11-19 Thread Cédric FINANCE


the modem or my ISP. But I don't know how 
to figure out where the problem is.
   



do you have a LAN as well? You could try that out.  Otherwise I would
look for an alternative .inf file to use with ndiswrapper (from windows
NT instead of windows XP for example), or look for a native linux driver
for your network card.

 


My wireless card is a Dlink 510 ( or 610) . The chipset is a rtl8180 with
pciids changed. I use the windows rtl8180 driver (the driver from dlink
is buggy: uses all cpu when access point unreachable). There is a native
driver in portage (rtl8180) but I didn't manage to make it work : can't
connect to the access point and it floods syslog. I'll try to rsync without
my wireless card.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk 1.2

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Gordon
The GTK+ ebuild is SLOTed, which means that you can install multiple 
versions as needed. If you need GTK+ 1.2, you could try something such 
as:

# emerge =gtk-1.2*

Hope that helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gtk 1.2

2005-11-19 Thread Peter Gordon
Peter wrote:
 # emerge =gtk-1.2*
Hrm. That should be gtk+, not gtk. 

# emerge =gtk+-1.2*

Sorry about that. :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find if a program is using a particular /dev device?

2005-11-19 Thread michael

Excellent. That's very helpful as well.

Michael


On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nick Rout wrote:


On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:48:19 -0800 (PST)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That was it. Thanks!
M


you could also try

strace -eopen programname

It will give a pretty verbose account of what files are opened by
programname. (and of course devices, like everything else, are files)




On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, John Myers wrote:


On Thursday 17 November 2005 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a custom device driver in /dev/ that can only be used by one
program at a time. Since the device is /dev/ttyUSB0, I can see if anyone
is using it by:

ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep ttyUSB0

Is there a utility or other better way I can discover which process, or
better, which program, is using a particular device?

Thanks,
Michael

try lsof


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[gentoo-user] how to create a .igz file?

2005-11-19 Thread El Nino
dear friends,

append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap  cdroot

how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo
Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel
compiled modules).so please help me to create this file.

note: all advices are welcome
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to create a .igz file?

2005-11-19 Thread b.n.

El Nino wrote:

dear friends,

append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap  cdroot

how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo
Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel
compiled modules).so please help me to create this file.


what's the problem? can't you boot?

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[gentoo-user] how to create initial ramdisk image?

2005-11-19 Thread El Nino
dear friends,

how to create initial ramdisk image for preloading modules?
[i saw this kind of file(.igz) on Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd.]

my previouse
question---
On 11/20/05, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Nino wrote:
  dear friends,
 
  append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
  looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap  cdroot
 
  how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo
  Live 2005.1 cd '/isolinux/' folder(think it contain current kernel
  compiled modules).so please help me to create this file.

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[pl ignore] [gentoo-user] how to create a .igz file?

2005-11-19 Thread El Nino
On 11/20/05, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Nino wrote:
  dear friends,
 
  append initrd=gentoo.igz root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc
  looptype=squashfs loop=/livecd.squashfs dokeymap  cdroot
 
  how can we create .igz files. i saw this kind of file on the Gentoo
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  compiled modules).so please help me to create this file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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abhay wrote:
 What? What kind of theory is that?

Sorry, I didn't explain myself clearly. I didn't mean to say that use 
gnu/linux/oss  for the
purpose of learning. However you can't argue that one gets to learn a lot from 
simply using it.

So, to clarify:

Learning is the answer to the question, and, *on the other hand*, the whole 
point of using free,
open source software, is usually to get hands-on software on a lower level than 
in windows like
platforms.

That's what I wanted to say. Most gnu/linux/oss users like screwing up their 
systems :P

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[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread James Colby
List members -

I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing.  It is trying to
re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available
(kdelibs-3.3.2-r7).  I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and
revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the
package.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  Also I am running KDE
3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using
kde3 libs?

*** Start Error Message ***
All prepared. Starting rebuild...
emerge --oneshot --nodeps  =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7
..
Calculating dependencies
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7.

*** End Error Message ***


Thanks so much,
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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James Colby wrote:
 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using
 kde3 libs?
 
 *** Start Error Message ***
 All prepared. Starting rebuild...
 emerge --oneshot --nodeps  =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7

Remove all .revdep* and run revdep-rebuild again. It will provide a list of 
files that do not
dynamic link. Get that list. Then use equery belongs FILENAME and see what 
package has that file.


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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread b.n.

James Colby wrote:

List members -

I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing.  It is trying to
re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available
(kdelibs-3.3.2-r7).  I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and
revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the
package.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  Also I am running KDE
3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using
kde3 libs?


Obvious question... Is your system up to-date? your last sync?

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread James Colby
On 11/19/05, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Colby wrote:
  List members -
 
  I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing.  It is trying to
  re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available
  (kdelibs-3.3.2-r7).  I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and
  revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the
  package.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  Also I am running KDE
  3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using
  kde3 libs?

 Obvious question... Is your system up to-date? your last sync?
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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman schreef:

 and, *on the other hand*, the whole point of using free, open source 
 software, is usually to get hands-on software on a lower level than 
 in windows like platforms.
 
 That's what I wanted to say. Most gnu/linux/oss users like screwing 
 up their systems :P
 

I understand your point, Arturo, but (list-- save this mail, becaue this
is likely the only time you'll ever hear me play devil's advocate on
this issue, and you'll want the proof if you ever want to throw it up in
my face) you're just  not right.

What you're basically saying is that Linux is for geeks and aspiring
geeks (who enjoy and have time to screw up their systems and get
hands-on software on a lower level than in Windows-like platforms), and
even if this 1) was historically true; 2) is in some respects still
philosophically true, it is not *functionally* true at this time, and it
will become less functionally true as time goes on.

The general thrust of the OSS/GNU/Linux movement at this time is
distinctly towards attaining some kind of comfort zone for former
Windows users, and former/current Windows users do not care to get
hands-on software, they do not care to screw up their systems (since
that means a reformat and reinstall most of the time), and they are
paralyzed like a deer in the headlights of an oncoming semi at the very
mention of CLI or ($DEITY forfend) man pages (that must be read via the
CLI). These are people who cannot conceive that breaking X does not mean
you can't use your system (because under their previous OS, the GUI
*was* the OS, not like here where X is just another program).

To increase our userbase, the users must come from the proprietary
OSes-- it's not like there's a whole herd of loose first-time users
just roaming the plains. These are owned users, some of whom have
realized that the barn is burning down around them and have the good
sense to run.

That doesn't mean that they are capable of coping in the wild, just
because they have been forced out into it, and it doesn't mean that they
ran out into the wild because they wanted to be free.

I admit the reason I first dual-booted was because I personally never
liked Windows, and hated the inability to understand what my system was
doing. But the reason I've stayed with Linux is not because I like
screwing up my system; it's because I really really hate Microsoft's
policies and I refuse to submit to them, and I'm willing to take a
h-e-double-hockey-sticks of a lot of pain (and it has been painful at
times, and-- at many fewer times-- it still is) to back my own refusal.

I admit I enjoy the triumph of overcoming the many obstacles I've
encountered in this journey, but I'm just weird (very hardheaded. That
doesn't mean I ram my head into walls for *fun*, though). Most average
users have no interest in overcoming obstacles just to  I dunno, rip a
DVD (you don't want to know how painful it was learning how to use
transcode, or how long it took), or to play Morrowind or Need for Speed
Most Wanted. And I can't and don't blame them for that, nor do I expect
them to be like me.

They are going to have to change to some extent if they want to switch,
that's true. There's no other way, and it's unfortunate that most
average users are completely unaware of the gravity of changing their
OS before they do it. But that's not the same as expecting them to
magically *be* different than what they were, and have different
expectations than what they've had their entire computing life, just
because they switched to Linux, for reasons that are their own, not
yours or mine.

Tolerance is difficult too, but the first step is recognizing that
different people are actually different-- and then finding a way to live
with that.

We're still working on that second part. SuSE has one way, Ubuntu has
another, Linspire has a third direction, and Gentoo yet a fourth. But
it's very much not as if a SuSE user wants to get hands-on with their
system (you really hardly can do that with SuSE). Surely a Linspire
user is not prepared in any way to do so (the Linspire target market is
most definitively not the geekish), and even Gentoo users complain(ed)
about the complexities and length of installation, despite the
extraordinarily copious documentation (perhaps no longer so much needed
with the recent switch to Stage 3 default).

So no, I do wish I could agree with you (it would certainly be a more
comfortable environment for me than what we actually have in terms of
geek-friendliness), but I just cannot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to create initial ramdisk image?

2005-11-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/19/05, El Nino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dear friends,

 how to create initial ramdisk image for preloading modules?
 [i saw this kind of file(.igz) on Gentoo Live 2005.1 cd.]

 my previouse

mkinitrd.
mkinitrd.

If that doesn't do what you want, it is just a shell script, so you
can modify it pretty easily.

If that doesn't do what you want, it is just a shell script, so you
can modify it pretty easily.

BTW, why do you post questions twice?
BTW, why do you post questions twice?

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Re: [gentoo-user] confused udev?

2005-11-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/18/05, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I already set RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=no, following Richards' suggestion. I
 didn't boot from a CD and cleaned /dev yet, but I'll give it a try.
 Meanwhile, I upgraded the kernel and added a config option (for
 firewire) that was missing (for supporting HD's). The nodes
 /dev/external_hd and /dev/external_hd1 exist now, but as for the
 memstick, only /dev/plextor_memstick (no /dev/plextor_memstick1, meaning
 no mounting). Chaos, as I said.

According to the dmesg output you posted earlier, your memory stick is
not partitioned.  This is ok, some are, some are not.  You can confirm
this by taking a look at /proc/partitions when it is inserted, or the
output of fdisk -l.  So, only getting /dev/plextor_memstick is
probably correct, and you should mount that, not plextor_memstick1.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread James Colby
On 11/19/05, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 James Colby wrote:
  3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using
  kde3 libs?
 
  *** Start Error Message ***
  All prepared. Starting rebuild...
  emerge --oneshot --nodeps  =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7

 Remove all .revdep* and run revdep-rebuild again. It will provide a list of 
 files that do not
 dynamic link. Get that list. Then use equery belongs FILENAME and see what 
 package has that file.


Thanks, revdep-rebuild did give me the list of files that would not
link, and equery belongs FILENAME tells me that the files are part of
the kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 package.  Is there a way for me to find
out which packages on my system depend on kdelibs-3.3.2-r7?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 11/19/05, James Colby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, revdep-rebuild did give me the list of files that would not
 link, and equery belongs FILENAME tells me that the files are part of
 the kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 package.  Is there a way for me to find
 out which packages on my system depend on kdelibs-3.3.2-r7?

man equery (look for 'depends')

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread Holly Bostick
James Colby schreef:
 
 Thanks, revdep-rebuild did give me the list of files that would not 
 link, and equery belongs FILENAME tells me that the files are part of
  the kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7 package.  Is there a way for me to
 find out which packages on my system depend on kdelibs-3.3.2-r7?
 
 Thanks, James
 

Am I missing the reason you  don't just upgrade to a version of KDE
3.3.2 which *is* in Portage? It's not as if kdelibs has radically
changed its contents between revisions of kdelibs-3.3.2-r-whatever:

eix kdelibs
* kde-base/kdelibs
 Available versions:  3.3.2-r10 3.4.1-r1 3.4.1-r2 3.4.2 3.4.2-r1
3.4.3 [M]3.5_beta1-r1 [M]3.5.0_beta2 [M]3.5.0_rc1
 Installed:   3.4.3
 Homepage:http://www.kde.org/
 Description: KDE libraries needed by all kde programs


The current revision of the 3.3.2 series is -r10, an upgrade from -r7. I
suppose you could unmerge -r7 first, but frankly I don't see why it
wouldn't suffice to simply do an emerge -ua** kdelibs and then re-run
revdep-rebuild.

Has the overwhelmingly obvious reason that this is not doable somehow
escaped me (always possible)?

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dinosaur Matrox Mystique: corruption

2005-11-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 11:57:12PM -0600, kashani wrote

 The Mystique has 4mb of RAM upgradeable to 8mb IIRC. It was likely
 new in '95-'96 as I scraped together $140 to by the slightly better
 Matrox Millennium used off Ebay in '96. The Mystique did not do well
 at higher resolutions, which is why I went with the Millennium. I'd
 shoot for 800x600 and go from there.

  1024x768 at 24bits (16 million colours) should be doable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, James Colby wrote:
 List members -
 
 I am trying to run revdep-rebuild and it is failing.  It is trying to
 re-compile a package that is no longer has an ebuild available
 (kdelibs-3.3.2-r7).  I have tried running revdep-rebuild -X and
 revdep-rebuild --package-names, but it is still trying to compile the
 package.  Does anybody have any suggestions?  Also I am running KDE
 3.4, is there an easy way that I can find out what package is using
 kde3 libs?
 

I just ran into this problem last night. I ran 
  equery depends kdelibs
made sure NONE of them specifically depended on kdelibs-3.3.2 (in my
case they were all compiled against kdelibs-3.4.x during a few of the
past update cycles). 
then I just
  emerge unmerge =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7
and revdep-rebuild stops complaining. 

W

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[gentoo-user] Firefox out of memory

2005-11-19 Thread Willie Wong
Hum, I came home today to find the firefox instance that has been
running for 3 or 4 days killed. Apparently it was an out of memory
thing. Dmesg gave the following

oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x1d2
DMA per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: low 2, high 6, batch 1
cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 2, batch 1
Normal per-cpu:
cpu 0 hot: low 32, high 96, batch 16
cpu 0 cold: low 0, high 32, batch 16
HighMem per-cpu: empty

Free pages:5084kB (0kB HighMem)
Active:59562 inactive:60153 dirty:0 writeback:0 unstable:0 free:1271 slab:4128 
mapped:118884 pagetables:1131
DMA free:2068kB min:88kB low:108kB high:132kB active:4656kB inactive:4340kB 
present:16384kB pages_scanned:10016 all_unreclaimable? yes
lowmem_reserve[]: 0 495 495
Normal free:3016kB min:2800kB low:3500kB high:4200kB active:233592kB 
inactive:236272kB present:507136kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no
lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0
HighMem free:0kB min:128kB low:160kB high:192kB active:0kB inactive:0kB 
present:0kB pages_scanned:0 all_unreclaimable? no
lowmem_reserve[]: 0 0 0
DMA: 1*4kB 0*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 0*512kB 0*1024kB 1*2048kB 
0*4096kB = 2068kB
Normal: 94*4kB 8*8kB 1*16kB 0*32kB 0*64kB 0*128kB 0*256kB 1*512kB 0*1024kB 
1*2048kB 0*4096kB = 3016kB
HighMem: empty
Swap cache: add 501655, delete 501655, find 340263/374434, race 0+0
Free swap  = 0kB
Total swap = 787176kB
Out of Memory: Killed process 14074 (firefox-bin).

Can anyone tell me what that means? This is the first time that
firefox has actually been killed by the kernel for going out of
memory, and there have been times when I left a firefox window open
for much longer (weeks at times). 

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild fails

2005-11-19 Thread James Colby

 I just ran into this problem last night. I ran
   equery depends kdelibs
 made sure NONE of them specifically depended on kdelibs-3.3.2 (in my
 case they were all compiled against kdelibs-3.4.x during a few of the
 past update cycles).
 then I just
   emerge unmerge =kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r7
 and revdep-rebuild stops complaining.

 W

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List -

Thank you everyone for all of your help, unmerging the package fixed my problem.

-James

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[gentoo-user] divx4linux

2005-11-19 Thread James Colby
List Members -

I have another question.  I can't seem to find the divx4linux package
anymore.  I am trying to install it and emerge can't find it.  It also
does not appear to be available as a use flag for mplayer any more. 
Did the package change names, or am I just really tired and missing
something here?

Thanks again for everything,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox out of memory

2005-11-19 Thread elinar
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:36, Willie Wong wrote:
 Hum, I came home today to find the firefox instance that has been
 running for 3 or 4 days killed. Apparently it was an out of memory
 thing.

 Can anyone tell me what that means? This is the first time that
 firefox has actually been killed by the kernel for going out of
 memory, and there have been times when I left a firefox window open
 for much longer (weeks at times).

Firefox is pretty good. but in the past I've had a similar problem, running 
out of memory, with lots of tabs being opend/closed and several windows. At 
the time there was a memory link relating to the tabs, and I'm not sure thats 
been fixed yet. Maybee bugzilla can help...or try

http://forums.mozillazine.org/
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Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout broke my system

2005-11-19 Thread Grant
 Hello everyone, I updated to something like baselayout pre9-r2 a few
 days ago and I immediately started getting this on boot up right after
 Checking root filesystem:
 
 
 
 did you also upgrade glibc to 2.3.6?  Apparently there's some behaviour
 with glibc and recent versions of portage that really screw things up.
 
 More info here http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112082
 
 It may not be your issue, but HTH!
 
 
 If you ran etc-update did you check /etc/fstab

I checked /etc/fstab and it looked fine.  I tried upgrading to
baselayout-1.12.0_pre10-r1 with the same results.  I was able to fix
it by downgrading back to baselayout-1.12.0_pre9-r1.  Should I just
keep trying to upgrade when a new version is released and then roll
back if it still breaks?

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Re: [gentoo-user] divx4linux

2005-11-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:52:24PM -0500, James Colby wrote:
 List Members -
 
 I have another question.  I can't seem to find the divx4linux package
 anymore.  I am trying to install it and emerge can't find it.  It also
 does not appear to be available as a use flag for mplayer any more. 
 Did the package change names, or am I just really tired and missing
 something here?
 

I am pretty sure it got absorbed into ffmpeg or something. I remember
reading about the change on b.g.o. sometime in the last week. To
enable it there might be a use flag you need to set, but I don't quite
remember. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:51:36AM -0600, John Jolet wrote

 On Nov 19, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one
 (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer
 (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's
 the gain - in *THAT* scenario?
 
 I'm not sure about you, but I can think of MANY times over my career
 when I set up a box to do just one thing or for just one person
 and down the road all of a sudden, I needed another thing or another
 person.  Retrofitting pam onto a running, configured system is not
 something I'd care to attempt.  Having pam on from the beginning,
 if you don't fiddle with the defaults, poses no extra complexity.
 But then, I'm a belt and suspenders man.

  This is my personal home machine.  I'm the only user on it.  I do not
run publicly visible servers.  I've set iptables to block incoming
connections, excepting a small hole for my backup machine (6-year-old
Dell) so I can ssh/scp backups back and forth.  I've also set my ADSL
modem/router to block *ALL* incoming connections, and *ALL* external
inbound traffic to ports 0..1023.

  My ISP allows externally visible servers, but I haven't bothered to do
so.  It's also conventional wisdom that you do *NOT* mix server apps and
a standard desktop on the same machine.  If I ever do decide to run a
publicly-visible server, I'll get a used machine and run it on that, and
configure that machine from the ground up as a server.  There are still
2 free ethernet ports on the back of my ADSL router/modem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin

2005-11-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 12:10:42PM -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote

 Alexander Skwar wrote:
  What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one
  (human) user on the system and the system acts as a consumer
  (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's
  the gain - in *THAT* scenario?
 
 Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if
 you do not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user
 chosed all of his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN.

  It's not that I don't want to learn.  What I want to learn may be
different from what you want to learn.  I'm at the tail end of some
experiments with de-noising digital photos from my camera.  I've learned
a lot about ImageMagick's convert command.  It is one seriously
powerful image manipulation toolset.

  My next personal project will be learning postgresql.  I am familiar
with Oracle SQL and PL/SQL.  I'm not a CS, but at work I do write quite
a few read-only queries.  We've got Access via ODBC as well, but once
you get past the really simple stuff, GUI Query By Example runs into a
wall.  Anyone aware of any postgresql user groups in the Toronto area?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Automatically mounting USB mass storage devices (camera)

2005-11-19 Thread Alexander Skwar
Jose Maria Alvarez Fernandez schrieb:
 I'm having a similar problem with ivman, and i've discovered that the 
 reason is that the camera has an id label that has a space, ie: LEXAR 
 MEDIA. That's not right for pmount, and when ivman tries to mount it, 
 fails. But it works for other usb devices. Does it work for you?
 Also, i had to upgrade to a CVS version of hal in order to get 
 everything to work again with 2.6.14 (you can find one ebuild in 
 fluidportage).

How did you read the id label?

ivman used to work for me - on a different PC but with the
same USB camera and also some time ago, thus with different
versions of everything.

On my notebook, I used to be able to plugin USB devices
(namely this USB camera) and it got mounted - without
ivman and without pmount.

Alexander Skwar
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