Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
On Monday 13 March 2006 05:53, Roy Wright wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Plus, it's /completely/ trivial to add -* to your USE or (using the great euse tool) euse -D useflag. Or, for those type A personalities out there, tweak your /etc/portage/package.use. Another tool is ufed (use flag editor). Nicely combines flag name, set state, and brief description. From this thread, I realized I hadn't ever reviewed my use flags, just added ones as needed for the past 1.5 years. So added the -* to start with. A few surprises like tetek. Found a half dozen deprecated flags. Then using ufed I discovered several new flags to try. This has me wondering if there is a utility to help manage the use flags. I'd like to know: * Which use flags I have set that are not used by anything I have installed. * Which use flags are deprecated. * Which use flags are new. Ideally I'd just add this to my daily.cron job. Thank you, Roy Instead of ufed I'd recommend profuse, it has the same options as ufed and more. Really a great tool, very easy to use and gives you a clear list of what use flags you have enabled (I do prefer the ncurses profuse -n command above gtk) -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl pgpHf498Q7BMq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 01:51 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 00:59, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': Whatever you do, don't go HT. It's not worth the effort. By HT do you mean AMD 64 Hyper-Transport or Pentium Hyper-Threading? Hyper-Transport = the shit [1] Hyper-Threading = just shit [2] OK.. I'll bite.. Why ?? Don't change the reason, just change the excuses! -- Joe Cointment
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 02:12, Ash Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 01:51 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 00:59, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': Whatever you do, don't go HT. It's not worth the effort. By HT do you mean AMD 64 Hyper-Transport or Pentium Hyper-Threading? Hyper-Transport = the shit [1] Hyper-Threading = just shit [2] OK.. I'll bite.. Why ?? Hyper-Transport is a way for CPUs to exchange data directly rather than going through a memory controller, thus allowing limited resources (L1/2/3 cache) to be used more effectively. In particular, process migration causes fewer cache misses. Hyper-Threading is a way for a CPU to pretend to be two, thus causing the system to request/require more resources than are available. Hyper-Transport attempts to alleviate a bottleneck, while Hyper-Threading increases the load on an existing one. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help
On Sunday 12 March 2006 22:55, Roy Wright wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I'm a big fan of ANDREW from the FSF. There should be an ebuild in bugzilla; but it's trivial to install. It's not a X application, but it /is/, despite the name, a wizard that does all of the heavy lifting for you. fanboy alert Here here! ANDREW Rules! /fanboy alert Just tried acidrip which is mplayer based instead of transcode. It worked fine on the one DVD I've tested with. You should give ANDREW a shot. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124130 -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
Michael Stewart (vericgar) wrote: Roy Wright wrote: This has me wondering if there is a utility to help manage the use flags. I'd like to know: * Which use flags I have set that are not used by anything I have installed. * Which use flags are deprecated. * Which use flags are new. If you are using a recent portage, you can use the --newuse flag, which will show which USE flags have changed. I'm guessing you are referring to emerge --newuse. That just selects packages where a use flag for an ebuild is different from the last time the package was built. I'm more interested in discovering brand new use flags. Say some package, foo, creates a new use flag, bar, then I'd like to see something like: New Use Flags: bar (used in: foo) It also would be nice to see when particular package changes the set of available use flags between versions. Changed USE flag sets in the following packages: foo-1.0.0 (a b c) foo-1.0.1 (a c d e) Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Tuning SCSI disks-App like hdparm available?
Hi All, I recently got a bunch of (old) scsi disks and would like to get the most out of them. They are 7200 18GB scsi disks which hdparm reports up to 18MB/s of transfer rate. (vs 30MB/s on my 5400 80GB laptop drive and 24MB/s on a 7200 200GB IDE Drive) I'm wondering if there are applications which can be used to tune the disks for better performance? The disks are attached to a Pentium II system. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 18:24:33 up 20:26, 6 users, load average: 0.16, 0.25, 0.33 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 21:47, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Hyper-Transport is a way for CPUs to exchange data directly rather than going through a memory controller, thus allowing limited resources (L1/2/3 cache) to be used more effectively. In particular, process migration causes fewer cache misses. Hyper-Threading is a way for a CPU to pretend to be two, thus causing the system to request/require more resources than are available. Hyper-Transport attempts to alleviate a bottleneck, while Hyper-Threading increases the load on an existing one. I apreciate that AMD certainly seem to have the memory bandwidth/throughput thing nailed, and their processors stand tall as a result. but I doubt that a p4 would perform near as well without a large part of the enginered paralelism that comes as part HThreading, compared to a purely serial system. I can certainly tell you that compiling (as an example) *wihtout* HT enabled on my P4 is a bad idea, takes nearly 4 times as long. -- Woman: I'm not going to press charges, but I assume you'll want to punish him. Homer: 'Preciate the suggestion, lady, but he hates that. And I gotta live with him. Bart: You're the man, Homer. Bart After Dark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 04:23, JimD wrote: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 800MHz HT Socket 754 or Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533MHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core,EM64T Processor I'm very surprised Intel can knock out dual core processors for under $150! I would go for the AMD though, but the socket 939 version. With a good board you should have no problems getting a much faster dual core CPU in X months time and just slotting it in. The next item is a mobo to go with the proc. For the mobo I really want SATA, PCI express, onboard audio and lan. I don't want onboard video, I will get a newer Nvida card to handle video. All the onboard stuff must work under Gentoo, I won't have MS on the new box. I've just got an Asus A8N (SLI version), and an X2 3800, very nice fully working combination. The board supports all currently available socket 939 CPUs too. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tuning SCSI disks-App like hdparm available?
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 06:24:38PM +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I'm wondering if there are applications which can be used to tune the disks for better performance? There is a hdparm for SCSI, sdparm. Never tried it though. Cheers, Rasmus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 01:59 -0500, JimD wrote: Iain Buchanan wrote: Whatever you do, don't go HT. It's not worth the effort. By HT do you mean AMD 64 Hyper-Transport or Pentium Hyper-Threading? don't bother with Hyper threading. Hyper transport I know nothing about. -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au The clothes have no emperor. -- C.A.R. Hoare, commenting on ADA. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 23:44 +1300, Glenn Enright wrote: I can certainly tell you that compiling (as an example) *wihtout* HT enabled on my P4 is a bad idea, takes nearly 4 times as long. I would hesitate to say, the reason for this is more likely to do with the way HT is turned off. I've noticed massive slowdowns with turning HT depending on whether I turn it off in the bios or just play with the kernel. conspiracy theory there may even be some intentional slowdown when you do a bios / chip based disable /conspiracy theory -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Man is an animal that makes bargains: no other animal does this-- no dog exchanges bones with another. -- Adam Smith -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 00:53, Iain Buchanan wrote: conspiracy theory there may even be some intentional slowdown when you do a bios / chip based disable /conspiracy theory lol -- All my life I wanted to be someone; I guess I should have been more specific. -- Jane Wagner -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Sunday 12 March 2006 06:51, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Saturday 11 March 2006 04:19, Martins Steinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about and most annoying change is with KDE settings, new way that every new window starts in background doesnt suit me very much, can somebody point me where to fix it? I noticed that as well, but I haven't figure out how to change it either. tried to tweak settings and finaly created new user account with no luck. now i'm updating qt3 which i missed to update due to update bring in qt4, and kdebase. if this will help ill let you know. little upset that after xorg migration i lost my mouse theme and dont recall its name, those were some simple red pointers. oh, just came idea to rebuild gtk too. martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
Iain, So are you saying that a P4 is actually faster with HT disabled, or simply that you don't have much to gain by using HT? I've had a dual-Xeon machine with 4 logical processors running Gentoo for a couple years now, and I like being able to run 4 threads of simulations at the same time. The threads, when started nearly simultaneously, seem to finish the same jobs in nearly the same amount of time... I've been told before that it's simply because the HT makes both the actual processors less efficient... Either way - I haven't had any complaint about HT, but if there is conclusive evidence that HT drastically takes away from true P4 power, then I'd definitely like to know about it. Thanks Denis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On 3/13/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey group, My trusty old computer died tonight :( I am stuck with my winders laptop for a few days until I can get in a new mobo and processor. I am looking at getting something like an AMD 64 or a Pentium D dual core. I can get one of the two models below for a really good price on newegg. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 800MHz HT Socket 754 or Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533MHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core,EM64T Processor I don't like Intel, all bad experiences (IMHO), so I would go with AMD, also, I would never go with a 754, its going down and 939 will dominate, so, you better get something you'll be able to upgrade, a high performance optimized A64 is so cool I can't wait to get mine. Check for simple stuff in the MOBO that makes great difference: Chipset: I will never ever again get a VIA or SIS enable MOBO, NForce is just THE chipset! Onboard audio: check for compatibility with Linux, and I don't mean something that just works, I mean if you really are gonna listen to sound or some shrieks like my last AC97 compatible card. If possible test it. Or ask around. LAN: Careful with gigabit controllers that are not supported, have you seen the kernel list for gigabit ethernets? I have and there are not many. Get something completely offboard and buy a sound card, you won't regret it... Also invest on cooling your system and some good PS. As you're a programmer you'll probably have it 32bits in order to avoid some imcompatibilities (I would get another disk and had both a 64 pure system and a 32 backup one, you can use the same config files, distfiles, etc). Thats MHO. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 07:37, Denis wrote: Iain, So are you saying that a P4 is actually faster with HT disabled, or simply that you don't have much to gain by using HT? I have a laptop and a desktop the sport p4's with HT. I don't see any difference whether HT is turned on or turned off. From what I see, if your software isn't taylored to take advantage of HT, there's an actual penalty having it... I've had a dual-Xeon machine with 4 logical processors running Gentoo for a couple years now, and I like being able to run 4 threads of simulations at the same time. The threads, when started nearly simultaneously, seem to finish the same jobs in nearly the same amount of time... I've been told before that it's simply because the HT makes both the actual processors less efficient... Either way - I haven't had any complaint about HT, but if there is conclusive evidence that HT drastically takes away from true P4 power, then I'd definitely like to know about it. Think of a P4 with HT as an ordinary P4 with two inputs and only one processing unit. If the thread on one input wants all the cpu power, it gets it and the other input stalls and starves. It's easy to see by running top on a busy P4 with HT computer. I can remember something I heard while growing up, you don't get something for nothing... Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help
Mike Myers wrote: Hi everybody! I'm having trouble with the dvdrip program. Whenever I run it, it just gives me: [filterlist] (re)scanning transcode's module path /usr/lib/transcode... but doesn't actually do anything. I don't get a gui or anything. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Or, is there an alternative that I can use to rip dvds and redo them to remove the stupid region codes? Thanks for the help! Mike -- Mike Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.yaay.us This is a transcode problem. There's a couple filters for transcode that are bad. Get rid of (or rename) the /usr/lib/transcode/filter_compare.so and /usr/lib/transcode/filter_logo.so files. I had the same problem and I searched the net for hours to find this, and this is what fixed it for me. I don't know if this is a problem with transcode, or if it's a ebuild problem that causes those filters to hang, but I re-emerged dvdrip and transcode several times and those files were recreated every time. Hope that helps Chris Frederick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Google-Talk
Is there way of setting up a VoIP talk session with another person who is using Google Talk? He is running the Google Talk Windoze application. http://code.google.com/apis/talk/index.html Well, there will be, i guess. Someday in the future, GAIM will include GoogleTalk/libjingle support, i guess. At present, you may try to use WINE. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
processing unit. If the thread on one input wants all the cpu power, it gets it and the other input stalls and starves. It's easy to see by running top on a busy P4 with HT computer. Never seen my dual Xeon machine starve :) And that's with 4 Monte Carlo codes running at the same time and me being able to do other things... I don't have any complaints. Denis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvdrip help
Chris Frederick wrote: This is a transcode problem. There's a couple filters for transcode that are bad. For me, the ImageMagick filters weren't good. When I do USE=-imagemagick, everything's fine. Alexander Skwar -- MCSE == Mentally Challenged Slave of the Empire. -- Gareth Barnard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tuning SCSI disks-App like hdparm available?
On 3/13/06, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently got a bunch of (old) scsi disks and would like to get the most out of them. They are 7200 18GB scsi disks which hdparm reports up to 18MB/s of transfer rate. (vs 30MB/s on my 5400 80GB laptop drive and 24MB/s on a 7200 200GB IDE Drive) I'm wondering if there are applications which can be used to tune the disks for better performance? I don't think there is much tuning that can be done, other than putting them in a RAID0 array. SCSI already does DMA, so as long as they are attached to the fastest controller that the drives support, you are probably maxed out on throughput. BTW, 24MB/s on a 7200rpm 200G drive on an IDE channel seems very, very low. That number should be more like 65MB/s. Unless this is actually in a USB enclosure... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Memory speed/type
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 162934872 Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any programs for Gentoo that can show what speed memory I have, i.e. PC2700? I plan on ordering some memory but I cannot remember what speed I put in and I want to be lazy and not unhook everything and open it up. snip Thanks, Jim FYI: I installed memtest and booted into that and it showed all I needed to know about my memory. It is DDR400 by the way ; ) Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFZNPeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAtrgAJ0alD8cGOqgvX5Emc3jMeUVa6XAGgCfckLl FeLZjRfXezNSRBvJx6stQdM= =m+cz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome menu editing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there a gnome menu editing app that I can emerge in gentoo? There was a menu editor for Gnome in the latest version of ubuntu, though I can not remember the name of it. Thanks, Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFZR3eqJ5Vbm4CxYRAjMUAJ9qPTaz1Gl6Gra0N7D0V/GL9yTvfgCeITIz sWkPJWl4lsdtB1svsvHAemM= =21te -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cannot compile anything: libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script - glibc 2.4 upgrade related?
Hello! On one machine, I upgraded to glibc 2.4, and since that time, I cannot compile anything anymore :( I always get errors like this: checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. In the config.log, I find: configure:2398: checking for C compiler default output file name configure:2401: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wl,-z,now conftest.c 5 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../libc.so:5: syntax error collect2: ld returned 1 exit status That's somewhat annoying... :( Any ideas how I can fix this issue? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- MCSE == Mentally Challenged Slave of the Empire. -- Gareth Barnard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cpufreqd and Pentium 4
Hello list, I followed the Gentoo Power Management Guide on: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml And installed cpufreqd, edited the config file and tested some configurations. I noticed it changes the frequencies all the time. Is there any side-effects on my CPU for this frequency changes? Will it reduce the CPU lifetime or anything like it? I couldn't find anything on Intel or Google to see if its harmless or not to use this feature. Thanks for any comments, -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile anything: libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script - glibc 2.4 upgrade related?
On 3/13/06, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../libc.so:5: syntax error Can you post the output of: carcharias lib # emerge -pv glibc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-libs/glibc-2.4 USE=nptl nptlonly pic userlocales -build -glibc-omitfp -hardened -nls -profile 16 kB Total size of downloads: 16 kB carcharias lib # equery belongs /usr/lib/libc.so [ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib/libc.so in *... ] sys-libs/glibc-2.4 (/usr/lib/libc.so) carcharias lib # equery check glibc [ Checking sys-libs/glibc-2.4 ] !!! /etc/nsswitch.conf has incorrect md5sum !!! /etc/host.conf has incorrect md5sum * 1379 out of 1381 files good carcharias lib # ls -l /usr/lib/libc.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 238 Mar 10 20:23 /usr/lib/libc.so carcharias lib # cat /usr/lib/libc.so /* GNU ld script Use the shared library, but some functions are only in the static library, so try that secondarily. */ OUTPUT_FORMAT(elf32-i386) GROUP ( /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc_nonshared.a AS_NEEDED ( /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ) ) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cpufreqd and Pentium 4
On 3/13/06, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And installed cpufreqd, edited the config file and tested some configurations. I noticed it changes the frequencies all the time. Is there any side-effects on my CPU for this frequency changes? Will it reduce the CPU lifetime or anything like it? I couldn't find anything on Intel or Google to see if its harmless or not to use this feature. It is almost certainly a net benefit to use power management. By reducing the clock rate and turning off parts of the processor not in use, you reduce the power consumed by the CPU and thus the heat generated. Heat is your biggest enemy for CPU longevity, so reducing that is always a good thing. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mount permissions
The root of all my rsync/network problems is a permissions problem The /mnt/network is drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Mar 13 13:24 test After I mount using mount -t smbfs -o username=paul,password=pass //LKG7DDD5F/gentoobackup /mnt/network the /mnt/network permissions have change to drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Mar 13 16:57 test How do I ensure the permissions stay the same after the mount Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
On Monday 13 March 2006 03:21, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*': I'm more interested in discovering brand new use flags. Say some package, foo, creates a new use flag, bar, then I'd like to see something like: New Use Flags: bar (used in: foo) Save use.local.desc and use.desc before each sync and diff with the new version after. It also would be nice to see when particular package changes the set of available use flags between versions. The -pv output of emerge shows this. A flag that was not available in your current version but it available in the one you are installing, will be colored yellow and postfixed with '%'. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Another reason to begin USE with -*
Rick van Hattem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Instead of ufed I'd recommend profuse, it has the same options as ufed and more. Really a great tool, very easy to use and gives you a clear list of what use flags you have enabled (I do prefer the ncurses profuse -n command above gtk) Wow, it has a hefty numer of dependancies here. About 25. Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-perl/DelimMatch-1.06 USE=-minimal 8 kB [ebuild N] perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils-1.18 USE=-minimal 35 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-XPath-1.13 USE=-minimal 38 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/libxml-perl-0.08 USE=-minimal 62 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-Handler-YAWriter-0.23-r1 USE=-minimal 25 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-NamespaceSupport-1.09 USE=-minimal 7 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-SAX-0.13 USE=-minimal 57 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Text-Iconv-1.4 USE=-minimal 8 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-Filter-BufferText-1.01 USE=-minimal 2 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-SAX-Writer-0.44-r1 USE=-minimal 11 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/XML-Twig-3.22 USE=nls -minimal 280 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/libconf-0.42.10-r1 USE=python -ruby 198 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Curses-1.13 USE=-minimal 78 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Pod-Escapes-1.04 USE=-minimal 9 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Pod-Simple-3.03 USE=-minimal 247 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Test-Pod-1.22 USE=-minimal 6 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/Curses-UI-0.95 USE=-minimal 138 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/extutils-depends-0.205 USE=-minimal 8 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/extutils-pkgconfig-1.07 USE=-minimal 6 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/glib-perl-1.105 USE=-minimal -xml 222 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/gtk2-perl-1.104 USE=-minimal 592 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/yaml-0.58 USE=-minimal -test 87 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/module-build-0.26.11 USE=-minimal 125 kB [ebuild N] dev-perl/gtk2-fu-0.10 USE=-minimal 20 kB [ebuild N] app-portage/profuse-0.25.3 USE=gtk ncurses 19 kB -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
Hi group, I tried wget'ing this on dialup: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. What did I do wrong? I've done this before with other files and this never happened. Maybe I used a different tool, can't remember. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mount permissions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 163718720 Paul Stear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The root of all my rsync/network problems is a permissions problem The /mnt/network is drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Mar 13 13:24 test After I mount using mount -t smbfs -o username=paul,password=pass //LKG7DDD5F/gentoobackup /mnt/network the /mnt/network permissions have change to drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Mar 13 16:57 test How do I ensure the permissions stay the same after the mount Paul type man mount or man mount.cifs. Once in man, press / which will let you search. Now type smbfs and hit enter. You should see the options for smbfs. The interesting ones are: uid gid umask fmask/file_mode dmask/dir_mode uid will let you set a user id for all files gid will let you set a group id for all files umask remove umaks bits. for example if you mount with umask=000, everything will be 777 or rwx. fmask/file_mode set the mas for files dmask/dir_mode set the mask for directories If you are mounting win2k or higher, you should use cifs. This is how I mount my C$ share on my WinXP laptop: mount -t cifs -o username=administrator,gid=100,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770 //laptop/C$ /mnt/laptop The above is should be one line. This will mount my laptops C$ share and give permission for everyone in the users group to read/write/execute. If you need to mount win2k then you would change cifs to smbfs, file_mode to fmask and dir_mode to dmask. Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFbApeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAm0BAJsEgG+wLteEQ3ObxncyONuQyquOeACfdEDI KE+BUBJTU1VpvmOEL09MthU= =djHQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 04:44, Glenn Enright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': On Monday 13 March 2006 21:47, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Hyper-Transport is a way for CPUs to exchange data directly rather than going through a memory controller, thus allowing limited resources (L1/2/3 cache) to be used more effectively. In particular, process migration causes fewer cache misses. Hyper-Threading is a way for a CPU to pretend to be two, thus causing the system to request/require more resources than are available. Hyper-Transport attempts to alleviate a bottleneck, while Hyper-Threading increases the load on an existing one. I apreciate that AMD certainly seem to have the memory bandwidth/throughput thing nailed, and their processors stand tall as a result. but I doubt that a p4 would perform near as well without a large part of the enginered paralelism that comes as part HThreading, compared to a purely serial system. My characterization is mostly correct. However, there are mitigating circumstances on the P4. What happened is that Intel made the instruction pipeline so long, they were losing a /large/ number of cycles when they had to flush the pipeline. The pipeline basically has to be flushed anytime the branch predictor guesses wrong. With HT there's a separate pipeline that can be independently filled and flushed, sharing the same compute devices, this allows the chip to continue processing unless both branch predictors go wrong. For certain pair of processes this will increase performance because the (on-chip) scheduler overhead is overtaken by the reducing of wasted cycle due to single-pipeline flush. The additional pipeline is a good idea, but I think it would have been better used as a parallel pipeline so that the branch predictor /is/ the scheduler. When a branch is encountered, the pipeline is duplicated and the branch the predictor chose is given priority for compute resources. A branch can only go two ways so one of the pipelines is correct and a bad guess by the branch predictor will only flush one. The problem with my approach [1] is handling the case when the pipeline ends up having multiple branch instructions in it. Then, you don't have enough pipelines to do all the branches simultaneously and you can run into the same issues of having to flush all the pipelines. I'm sure the designers at Intel weighed my approach against the HT approach taken and found their approach superior given the size of the pipeline and statistics available for branch instruction probability. I just hope that HT was the winner because of technical superiority and not because they couldn't find a cool name for my approach. [My choice: Quantum-Prediction.] In short, going with H-Thr vs. non-H-Thr will probably buy you performance, but it could be the wrong solution to a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place. (The first thing you learn about pipelines is the flush overhead associated with long ones.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh [1] I call it my approach for two reasons: a) I wrote it in the email and 2) I can't remember the actual name of it; it's been used before and may be used currently, it's not original or anything. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
Hi, On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:38:06 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried wget'ing this on dialup: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. Did you actually bother to read what -nc does? In fact I think you were searching -c option... -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:38:06 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried wget'ing this on dialup: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. It should be wget -c not -nc. Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
On 3/13/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. What did I do wrong? I've done this before with other files and this never happened. Maybe I used a different tool, can't remember. From man wget: --- -nc --no-clobber (snip) When running Wget without -N, -nc, or -r, downloading the same file in the same directory will result in the original copy of file being preserved and the second copy being named file.1. If that file is downloaded yet again, the third copy will be named file.2, and so on. When -nc is specified, this behavior is suppressed, and Wget will refuse to download newer copies of file. Therefore, ``no-clobber'' is actually a misnomer in this mode---it's not clobbering that's prevented (as the numeric suffixes were already preventing clobbering), but rather the multiple version saving that's prevented. -c --continue Continue getting a partially-downloaded file. This is useful when you want to finish up a download started by a previous instance of Wget, or by another program. For instance: wget -c ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/ls-lR.Z If there is a file named ls-lR.Z in the current directory, Wget will assume that it is the first portion of the remote file, and will ask the server to continue the retrieval from an offset equal to the length of the local file. --- Simply try: wget -c ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso; And be happy... -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 05:23, JimD wrote: Hey group, My trusty old computer died tonight :( I am stuck with my winders laptop for a few days until I can get in a new mobo and processor. I am looking at getting something like an AMD 64 or a Pentium D dual core. I can get one of the two models below for a really good price on newegg. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 800MHz HT Socket 754 or Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 533MHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core,EM64T Processor go AMD. The memory access is much faster. And memory access is the major bottleneck. Also, the Opteron/amd64-athlons wipe the floor with the p4. There is no good reason to buy intel today. But... emm... I bought a Venive S939, 3200+ 1000MHZ HT for less than 130€ or so just 5Month ago. so you should get a much better CPU than you wrote for 150$ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 163692080 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip There is no good reason to buy intel today. But... emm... I bought a Venive S939, 3200+ 1000MHZ HT for less than 130¤ or so just 5Month ago. so you should get a much better CPU than you wrote for 150$ Thanks for the tip. I did see the Venice core on newegg. Where did you get your S939? Did you do AMD64 for gentoo or just x86? I just finished getting everything compiled and setup where I like it. I won't mind doing it again if running gentoo in 64-bit on an AMD64 would be a noticeable difference from running 32-bit on an AMD64. Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFbqCeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAtG0AJ9B+ZNw9EC5/Pqhgdei3ib6rHnUTgCfft9L 29GXO8rFqf2cCcrz5uFcGkw= =6M2I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: wget won't concatenate(?)
maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. What did I do wrong? I've done this before with other files and this never happened. Maybe I used a different tool, can't remember. Hi Maxim, what you did wrong was using '-nc' when you wanted to use '-c' ;). From wget --help: | -nc, --no-clobber skip downloads that would download to | existing files. | -c, --continueresume getting a partially-downloaded file. And why it did work before, maybe you used '-c' and just mis-remembered the option, or you're right and it was a different tool. Who knows... Adiaŭ, Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] -nls
Jim wrote: Has anyone gotten burned by turning off Native Language Support? The only thing I've ever run into on the server side that wanted it was the Horde framework requiring PHP to have NLS... however I didn't look real hard for a workaround so that might not have been a hard requirement. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] -nls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does turning off nls break anything? I did the livecd install and everything in the base install was compiled with +nls. Once I started compiling my own stuff like X, Gnome etc, I change to -nls in my USE flags. I only speak English so I don't need Native Language Support. I flipped the nls USE flag back on and update world/system would have to recompile a *lot*. I will probably have all the main software I want compiled in the next day or two and then plan to do a backup. I don't want to continue with those plans if I am going to get burned down the road because I turned of Native Language Support . I would rather recompile now while I have the time ; ) Has anyone gotten burned by turning off Native Language Support? Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFbvgeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAhm5AJ4rWLRsKPumFQjiDxUxEXsId090zACfcveD TirL03MgRxeJpdB/12pLkPE= =97Dh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
wget -c http://www.microsoft.com/linux-kernel.iso you can even start a download with the -c option. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot compile anything: libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script - glibc 2.4 upgrade related?
Alexander Skwar wrote: Hello! On one machine, I upgraded to glibc 2.4, and since that time, I cannot compile anything anymore :( I always get errors like this: checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. In the config.log, I find: configure:2398: checking for C compiler default output file name configure:2401: i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=prescott -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wl,-z,now conftest.c 5 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../libc.so: file format not recognized; treating as linker script /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/../../../libc.so:5: syntax error collect2: ld returned 1 exit status That's somewhat annoying... :( Any ideas how I can fix this issue? Thanks, Alexander Skwar Hello. Try editing your make.conf to use CFLAGS=-march=pentium4 -02 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer instead of '-march=prescott' -- Thomas Andrè Skarsvåg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 163609048 maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group, I tried wget'ing this on dialup: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. What did I do wrong? I've done this before with other files and this never happened. Maybe I used a different tool, can't remember. -Maxim Use wget -c. Example, you start to download http://www.microsoft.com/linux-kernel.iso and your connection dies. To continue you would use: wget -c http://www.microsoft.com/linux-kernel.iso Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFbJ4eqJ5Vbm4CxYRAlT7AJ9O1C9ozY+YnPwQ4Z83jRAe1H2BbQCeJ0om uzQ/XGZfHEV0WCSu11eD19E= =NRPy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] -nls
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 163381024 kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: Has anyone gotten burned by turning off Native Language Support? The only thing I've ever run into on the server side that wanted it was the Horde framework requiring PHP to have NLS... however I didn't look real hard for a workaround so that might not have been a hard requirement. kashani Thanks kashani. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFcaDeqJ5Vbm4CxYRApT8AJ9NTQb/e3AncLtfpQolLwvTdjzqDwCePrnL TmvJSz39juvl9O1cVZItnpQ= =i5FQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 12:31, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': Did you do AMD64 for gentoo or just x86? I just finished getting everything compiled and setup where I like it. I won't mind doing it again if running gentoo in 64-bit on an AMD64 would be a noticeable difference from running 32-bit on an AMD64. My recommendations are: 1G RAM : 32-bit kernel and userland 4G RAM : 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userland else : 64-bit kernel and 64-bit (multilib) userland Rationale: With less than 1G of ram you can still access all of it from any userland process without using the BIGMEM or HUGEMEM options [1]. You could gain a few extra registers from going 64-bit, but that probably doesn't make up for using twice the space for pointers and some other kernel structures. At /exactly/ 1G (or even really close, ~ 768M) you have to go BIGMEM or HUGEMEM to actually get use of all of that memory (in a 32-bit kernel), so I'd go with the 2nd option. With more than 1G but less than 4G you go 64-bit kernel to avoid the BIGMEM or HUGEMEM options, are let your 64-bit hardware to that work. 32-bit userland limits each process to only 4G addressable memory and denies userspace access to the 64-bit only registers, but you don't have 4G anyway and going 64-bit doubles the size of pointers in userspace. At /exactly/ 4G either the 2nd or 3rd option is tenable, but I'd go with the 3rd option is RAM is cheap and you'll probably add more later. Recompiling your entire userland is much more drastic that recompiling your kernel. Above 4G, you also really have a choice between option 2 and 3. I go with 3 because I believe that one process should be able to take all my physical memory if it needs it (and I don't ulimit it), particularly in the form of buffers and cache. I simply can't recommend going no-multilib right now. Perhaps in the future that will no longer be the case, but there's just too many things out there that you may want to install as 32-bit right now. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Need help getting MythTV to work with new(er) kernel
I had MythTV working perfectly with linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r5. I've tried to upgrade to linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 using genkernel and basing the newer kernel's configuration off of the older one. I've booted with the new kernel, remerged ivtv and rebooted again with the new kernel, but still I cannot watch LiveTV in mythfrontend. Here's the output of mythbackend.log: camille ~ # cat /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log Starting up as the master server. It is current (I stopped mythbackend, deleted the old mythbackend.log, restarted syslog-ng and then mythbackend.) When I start mythfrontend and ask to watch LiveTV, all I see is the blank screen. Here is the output of running mythfrontend from my terminal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ mythfrontend 2006-03-13 13:30:34.209 New DB connection, total: 1 Total desktop width=1024, height=768, numscreens=1 2006-03-13 13:30:34.229 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0 2006-03-13 13:30:34.249 mythfrontend version: 0.18.1.20050510-1 www.mythtv.org 2006-03-13 13:30:34.250 Enabled verbose msgs : important general 2006-03-13 13:30:34.526 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T.) mythtv: could not connect to socket mythtv: No such file or directory lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages 2006-03-13 13:30:34.952 Joystick disabled. 2006-03-13 13:30:35.069 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin. 2006-03-13 13:30:40.671 New DB connection, total: 2 2006-03-13 13:30:40.710 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.1.3:6543 (try 1 of 5) 2006-03-13 13:30:40.733 Using protocol version 15 2006-03-13 13:30:40.890 Using protocol version 15 2006-03-13 13:30:46.209 taking too long to be allowed to read.. 2006-03-13 13:30:51.213 taking too long to be allowed to read.. 2006-03-13 13:31:00.218 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:04.222 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:08.226 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:12.230 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:16.234 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:20.238 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:24.242 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:28.246 Waited 4 seconds for data to become available, waiting again... 2006-03-13 13:31:28.247 Waited 14 seconds for data to become available, aborting Couldn't read file: rbuf://192.168.1.3:6543/mnt/store//ringbuf1.nuv 2006-03-13 13:31:28.303 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV 2006-03-13 13:31:28.303 Decoder not alive, and trying to play.. 2006-03-13 13:31:48.307 ReadStringList timeout (quick). Remote encoder not responding. 2006-03-13 13:31:48.323 Changing from None to None 2006-03-13 13:31:58.483 ReadStringList timeout (quick). 2006-03-13 13:31:58.483 RemoteFile::Read(): No response from control socket. 2006-03-13 13:31:58.483 RemoteFile::Read() failed in RingBuffer::safe_read(). 2006-03-13 13:31:58.495 WriteStringList: Bad socket 2006-03-13 13:31:58.495 ReadStringList: Bad socket 2006-03-13 13:31:58.495 Remote file timeout. I see there: mythtv: could not connect to socket mythtv: No such file or directory But mythbackend IS running; from another teminal tab I issue this: camille ~ # ps ax | grep 'mythbackend' 12762 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12766 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12767 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12769 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12770 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12771 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12772 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12773 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12774 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12775 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12776 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12777 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12792 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12793 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose none --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log 12821 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep mythbackend camille ~ # I would post the new kernel config, but since it's based off the old kernel config, and
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 19:31, Jim wrote: On 163692080 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip There is no good reason to buy intel today. But... emm... I bought a Venive S939, 3200+ 1000MHZ HT for less than 130¤ or so just 5Month ago. so you should get a much better CPU than you wrote for 150$ Thanks for the tip. I did see the Venice core on newegg. Where did you get your S939? local trader. I bought it at the same shop, where I bought the board for less than 50€ and the two ram modules (for dual channel) for 50€ each -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage problem
hi i have following problem emerging packages: gorilla ~ # emerge portage Calculating dependencies... done! Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 3263, in ? if resume in portage.mtimedb and \ KeyError: 'mergelist' can someone please help me regards martin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Passing env variable to ssh?
Anyone knows a way to pass an environment variable to a openssh command? I doubt there is a way, but who knows... I want something like this: myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand $myvar This would execute a command with argument whatever. The problem is that I want to authenticate via a cryptographic key allowing only this command, i.e., the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of myuser at remotebox has a line command=~/bin/mycommand $myvar public-key This does not work, because remotebox doesn't know about $myvar. Of course, if I could pass a variable to remotebox, the line might be just command=~/bin/mycommand public-key and the ssh command would be myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand (the program itself would use the value of $myvar) Any idea? -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
Hi guys, Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 14:10, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': My recommendations are: 1G RAM : 32-bit kernel and userland 4G RAM : 64-bit kernel and 32-bit userland else : 64-bit kernel and 64-bit (multilib) userland with amd64 on s939 you are buyiong ram in pairs, to use dual channel mode. So you'll have 1GB, 2GB, 4GB. Is 256M PC2700 not available, for those with very little money... And with 1GB you are loosing ~160mb when using 32bit. With a stock kernel. You can actually tweak this fairly easily, and I've seen reports of being able to use 980M in user space. That said, if you've got 768M of RAM and don't feel like tweaking your kernel, go 64-bit. Plus, you can't use the additional registers of the cpu in 32bit mode - so why using it at all? Better memory architecture and microcode, larger caches, etc.; you might even get a Hz bump; in the near future, you'll get hw virtualization. There are lot of reasons to choose a modern processor than just the 64-bit mode. That said, there's very little reason to have less than 1G of RAM these days, and at that point you are well-served to put (at least) your kernel in 64-bit mode. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Google-Talk
Sven Köhler wrote: Is there way of setting up a VoIP talk session with another person who is using Google Talk? He is running the Google Talk Windoze application. http://code.google.com/apis/talk/index.html Well, there will be, i guess. Someday in the future, GAIM will include GoogleTalk/libjingle support, i guess. At present, you may try to use WINE. Thanks Sven, I've tried WINE but can't even connect to use IM, let alone VoIP. :-( I found this on the Gaim FAQ's: === How do I use Google Talk? Create a Jabber account as per Google's FAQ. The Audio component is not currently supported and will not be until 1)the protocol is published and 2)Gaim-vv is ready for mainstream use. === from http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q17 Unless I can troubleshoot Google Talk in WINE I'll have to wait it seems. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] antivirus
Could try norman AV. www.norman.com On Monday 06 March 2006 12:26 pm, Jarry wrote: i have avast updated daily i dono how this virus got in i must try AVG Why not just use A/V when you run Windoze? AVG is still free and quite excellent. Both AVG and Avast sux hard! I used both of them, paid for updates, and despite of that I got viruses many times. Even clamav is better! They (avg/avast) offer virtually no protection against unknown viruses. No wonder, if you look at their scores on virusbtn.com :-( Wanna really good antivir-soft? Try nod32! Unfortunatelly, it is not free, and even trial-version is only for win-world. But it is worth of every penny. Frequent updates (can be also 2-3 times per day), perfect heuristic analysis, low cpu/mem load... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 164593240 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better memory architecture and microcode, larger caches, etc.; you might even get a Hz bump; in the near future, you'll get hw virtualization. There are lot of reasons to choose a modern processor than just the 64-bit mode. That said, there's very little reason to have less than 1G of RAM these days, and at that point you are well-served to put (at least) your kernel in 64-bit mode. Is there a how-to on going 64-bit with Gentoo? Anything special to do with/for the kernel to go 64-bit? Jim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEFd+UeqJ5Vbm4CxYRAi0xAJ4rvSEyExCXRsJFFA0FGtzsfyp+XwCeOtBJ 8jJMZOdaMktryZtOqkRBr7c= =Qw+M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
On Monday 13 March 2006 21:54, Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? no an up to date gentoo is not different from an up to date release. The installation is propably even more actual, than the latest release. I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. there won't be problems. After the an emerge sync, emerge -u world, both are more or less identical. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: The -pv output of emerge shows this. A flag that was not available in your current version but it available in the one you are installing, will be colored yellow and postfixed with '%'. Great. So something like the following in my cron.daily/portage.update script should do the job: echo Save old use.desc rm -f /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc.old cp /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc.old echo Save old use.local.desc rm -f /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc.old cp /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc.old echo Syncing portage tree... emerge --sync 2 /var/log/portage.cron.log /dev/null status=$? if [ $status -ne 0 ]; then echo Portage sync failed, exiting update. exit $status fi echo Changed use flags: diff /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc.old /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc diff /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc.old /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc echo Running eupdatedb... eupdatedb --quiet --nocolor 2 /dev/null echo Running update-eix... update-eix --quiet echo Checking for updates... rm -f /tmp/emerge.output /usr/local/sbin/einfo --update --deep --newuse world emerge --update --deep --pretend --verbose --nospinner --newuse world /tmp/emerge.output emerge --update --deep --fetchonly --quiet --nospinner --newuse world /tmp/emerge.output cat /tmp/emerge.output echo New USE flags indicated by trailing percent sign in: grep -P \S+% /tmp/emerge.output Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Passing env variable to ssh?
On 2006-03-13 20:14:33 + (Mon, Mar), Jorge Almeida wrote: Anyone knows a way to pass an environment variable to a openssh command? I doubt there is a way, but who knows... I want something like this: myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand $myvar This would execute a command with argument whatever. The problem is that I want to authenticate via a cryptographic key allowing only this command, i.e., the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys of myuser at remotebox has a line command=~/bin/mycommand $myvar public-key This does not work, because remotebox doesn't know about $myvar. Of course, if I could pass a variable to remotebox, the line might be just command=~/bin/mycommand public-key and the ssh command would be myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand (the program itself would use the value of $myvar) Any idea? Stdin? echo $myvar | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by grep -i virus $MESSAGE Trust me. pgptlJO7V5PGW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
On 3/13/06, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? No, you're given options while you update with emerge -uD world, you can compile GCC 3.4.5 but not use it till you gcc-config it. You download and unpack the latest kernel, but you CHOOSE to compile it and change versions. If you always choose to upgrade this slotted packages, you'll always have the latest Gentoo as a whole. The Gentoom 2006.0 comes with some of this packages already upgraded to the latest versions, that's the only difference, a install of 2005.1 would have a lot of compiling and upgrading and maybe some configuration to change between versions, other than that, you'll always end up with the latest Gentoo on both machines (if you choose to). I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trenton Adams wrote: Hi guys, Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Thanks. As I understand it, this is essentially true. As long as you continue to update your system, it will remain up to a date. However, depending upon your architecture, there may be packages that are masked by profile. I've really only seen this on SPARC systems, but others may pop up as well. For example, the 2.6 kernel is masked in the 2005.1 SPARC profile, but not in the 2006.0 profile. I am still running the 2005.0 on my P4 x86 system, and haven't run into any profile-related issues. - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEFeLGLYGSSmmWCZMRAgG4AKCb/OTawnb9CszNr8EyCZhmn8NbiwCfed7A tHihV+1ac3E8EcySPKJNZDM= =yklO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
On Monday 13 March 2006 14:54, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs': Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? Not very. Some packages are masked by the profile so changing profiles will change what packages are installed, sometimes. I'm assuming you are using default-linux/x86/2005.1 and thinking about moving to default-linux/x86/2006.0 (there are equivalents for most archs, and probably some of the sub-profiles). If that's the case we see that: $ diff -u 2005.1 2006.0 diff -u 2005.1/make.defaults 2006.0/make.defaults --- 2005.1/make.defaults2005-11-16 11:06:03.0 -0600 +++ 2006.0/make.defaults2006-01-31 17:06:15.0 -0600 @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/make.defaults,v 1.5 2005/11/16 17:00:36 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults,v 1.6 2006/01/31 23:03:05 wolf31o2 Exp $ -USE=alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv +# This is currently commented so that the stage1 tarball can also be used to +# build no-nptl systems. +#STAGE1_USE=nptl + +USE=alsa apache2 apm arts avi cups eds emboss encode esd foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg nptl ogg opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype udev vorbis X xml xmms xv diff -u 2005.1/packages 2006.0/packages --- 2005.1/packages 2005-07-07 16:09:07.0 -0500 +++ 2006.0/packages 2006-01-18 15:19:57.0 -0600 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/packages,v 1.2 2005/07/07 20:11:37 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/packages,v 1.1 2006/01/18 21:19:57 wolf31o2 Exp $ Only in 2005.1: vserver (I stripped out the context lines, but things aren't wrapping correctly, so that my be a little hard to read.) ANYWAY, looks to me like vserver support is no longer available as a sub-profile, probably replaced or superceeded by default-linux/x86/vserver and that the default USE flags changed by adding apache2, esd, nptl, udev, and xml and removing bitmap-fonts, fortran, oggvorbis, truetype-fonts, type1-fonts, and xml2. nptl and udev you were probably already using, esd maybe not and it'll probably bring in a dependency or two. I betting xml2 has just gone away, in favor of xml. oggvorbis should have also gone away since there's no special libraries necessary to handle vorbis data in the ogg wrapper other that the ability to handle vorbis data (which can be in another wrapper, like matroska) and open ogg wrappers (which can contain other data like speex or theora). Changing the fortran flag will probably make your gcc recompile, unless you already had it turned off; I don't actually compile fortran, do you? I'm not really sure what's up with the fonts options, but it does make sense to not default to ALL types of fonts. The biggest change is the apache2 flag, so you may want to disable that is you do go with 2006.0 I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Do you mean you want to be able to use binary packages from the server, so that you don't have to compile on the notebook? If so, you probably want to keep both make.conf, make.profile, and /etc/portage identical. (If USE flags are different, a binary package will not be used.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Passing env variable to ssh?
Hi, On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:14:33 + (WET) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want something like this: myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand $myvar [...] This does not work, because remotebox doesn't know about $myvar. Of course, if I could pass a variable to remotebox, the line might be just command=~/bin/mycommand public-key and the ssh command would be myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand (the program itself would use the value of $myvar) Hm, I think you're making it unnecessary complex. What's wrong with just piping it on stdin? I.e.: local$ echo whatever | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand and in ./bin/mycommand: --- #!/bin/sh read myvar # do whatever --- Or do you in fact use a pseudo tty on remote side for interactive mode (which would make this a little more difficult)? If you want to keep your way of doing it, I just have a few hints, but didn't test anything, just looked them up out of curiosity: - read man sshd_config, item AcceptEnv, PermitUserEnvironment - read man sshd, section LOGIN PROCESS -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Gysel wrote: hi i have following problem emerging packages: gorilla ~ # emerge portage Calculating dependencies... done! Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 3263, in ? if resume in portage.mtimedb and \ KeyError: 'mergelist' There are instructions to apply a patch that corrects the problem here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125993#c1 Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEFeXd/ejvha5XGaMRAmkwAJ4+M9Kpr3Zmxm+EwcjGio+uYxdvPgCeMKRQ HQ2B2gfTkFcU77m7drIcYKs= =h0Ol -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xorg.conf
Hi! I have laptop HP nx9105 which has screen 15.4 resolution of 1280x800 and graphics card nVidia GeForce 4 Go 32M and I am looking for some assistance in configuration of xorg.conf J. So, can somebody help me? Bye Goran
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
On Monday 13 March 2006 15:13, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*': Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: The -pv output of emerge shows this. A flag that was not available in your current version but it available in the one you are installing, will be colored yellow and postfixed with '%'. Great. So something like the following in my cron.daily/portage.update script should do the job: Looks good, with the following caveat: cp /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc.old cp /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc.old emerge --sync 2 /var/log/portage.cron.log /dev/null The last line will delete the .old files you just created when it syncs /usr/portage/profiles. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Google-Talk
On Monday 13 March 2006 01:07, Mick wrote: Is there way of setting up a VoIP talk session with another person who is using Google Talk? He is running the Google Talk Windoze application. -- If you don't mind using beta stuff then I just saw this on gentoo forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-442920.html Do tell us if it works. -- Regards, Abhay pgpXUPQ9fxce5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] -nls
Jim wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 163381024 kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: Has anyone gotten burned by turning off Native Language Support? The only thing I've ever run into on the server side that wanted it was the Horde framework requiring PHP to have NLS... however I didn't look real hard for a workaround so that might not have been a hard requirement. kashani Thanks kashani. BTW I went with -nls in /etc/make.conf and added +nls to /etc/portage/package.use for PHP on that server. That worked well so I assume you can just add NLS as needed to any web framework stuff. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf
I have laptop HP nx9105 which has screen 15.4 resolution of 1280x800 and graphics card nVidia GeForce 4 Go 32M and I am looking for some assistance in configuration of xorg.conf J. So, can somebody help me? Try Xorg -configure see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml Dave -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(+) s+: a24 C++ UBL++ P L++ E--- W+++$ N+ o? K? w O? M-- V? !PS !PE Y PGP- t++ 5++ X+ R+++ tv+ b++ DI D++ G e+ h-- r++ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 21:09, Jim wrote: Is there a how-to on going 64-bit with Gentoo? Anything special to do with/for the kernel to go 64-bit? Reinstall. You need a 64bit toolchain to compile a 64bit kernel, and getting a 64bit toolchain is no mean feat. Just reinstall. Do it in a chroot while the system is running. You might also have to compile the kernel from a 64bit livecd environment. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 15:09, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': On 164593240 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better memory architecture and microcode, larger caches, etc.; you might even get a Hz bump; in the near future, you'll get hw virtualization. There are lot of reasons to choose a modern processor than just the 64-bit mode. That said, there's very little reason to have less than 1G of RAM these days, and at that point you are well-served to put (at least) your kernel in 64-bit mode. Is there a how-to on going 64-bit with Gentoo? Anything special to do with/for the kernel to go 64-bit? If you are in a 32-bit userland you have to cross-compile the kernel, which is pretty easy. (And been covered recently.) # Get a cross-compiler: emerge -u crossdev crossdev -s1 -t x86_64 # Clean, configure, and compile your new kernel. cd /usr/src/linux # Or whereever you have your kernel sources make mrproper # To completely clean the existing kernel zcat /proc/config.gz .config # Start with running config make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- menuconfig # Make sure and include support for IA32 binaries. make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- -j2 # Tune jobs # Install modules emerge -u module-rebuild # For below make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- modules_install module-rebuild -X rebuild # out-of-kernel modules, like nvidia # Install the kernel mount /boot # If needed make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu- install # Or manually umount /boot # As above # Using lilo? I don't, but if you are, you'll probably need do to # something else, too. # Reboot shutdown -r now -t 5 (Bo Anderson (IIRC) on this list has validated most of this proceedure, so he should be able to help you with any gotchas along the way.) If you are using a 64-bit kernel but still running a 32-bit userland and want to move to a 64-bit userland you'll need to: 1) Fix your make.profile link 2) Update your CHOST, CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, and ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in make.conf 3) Rebuild system (which will include your toolchain) emerge -e system 4) Switch to the new gcc using gcc-config 5) Rebuild world (which will also do system again. :/) emerge -e world (I haven't validated this, but it *shouldn't* break your system. If you are using LVM and have a little extra space, it might just be better to do a chroot install, then boot into it and remove your old install [don't remove /home!]) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 16:01, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': On Monday 13 March 2006 21:09, Jim wrote: Is there a how-to on going 64-bit with Gentoo? Anything special to do with/for the kernel to go 64-bit? Reinstall. You need a 64bit toolchain to compile a 64bit kernel, and getting a 64bit toolchain is no mean feat. As I covered before. With gentoo, it's easy: emerge -u crossdev crossdev -s1 -t x86_64 (It should be noted that crossdev might attempt to install a hard-masked or profile-masked cross compiler [because of some minor limitations...], so you might want to fiddle with the versions...) That gets you enough to compile the kernel. If you want a full toolchain you can change the stage to 4: crossdev -s4 -t x86_64 If you need a debugger, add --ex-gdb. If you need fortran and other languages, support add --ex-gcc. Just reinstall. Do it in a chroot while the system is running. You might also have to compile the kernel from a 64bit livecd environment. The kernel is actually the easiest thing to compile as 64-bit. Then, once you are in that 64-bit kernel you should be able to move you userland to 64-bit without bringing down the system. A chroot install might be easier, though, if you have the space available. Reboots are for hardware upgrades, not software. :P I just need to figure out how to use /proc/kmem to move to a new kernel w/o rebooting. (kexec might work, too.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf
Yes I tried but I am looking if someone has done it already or does know what should I write in xorg.conf. Bye Goran -Original Message- From: Dave Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:00 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf I have laptop HP nx9105 which has screen 15.4 resolution of 1280x800 and graphics card nVidia GeForce 4 Go 32M and I am looking for some assistance in configuration of xorg.conf J. So, can somebody help me? Try Xorg -configure see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml Dave -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(+) s+: a24 C++ UBL++ P L++ E--- W+++$ N+ o? K? w O? M-- V? !PS !PE Y PGP- t++ 5++ X+ R+++ tv+ b++ DI D++ G e+ h-- r++ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ NOD32 1.1441 (20060313) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another reason to begin USE with -*
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: The last line will delete the .old files you just created when it syncs /usr/portage/profiles. Nice catch! Thank you. Changed the directory for the old files to /var/portage/profiles. That should be safe. echo Save old use.desc mkdir -p /var/portage/profiles rm -f /var/portage/profiles/use.desc.old cp /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc /var/portage/profiles/use.desc.old Thank you, Roy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf
i have the same card... my default is to use an external crt you just have to edit it to switch to lcd by default :) On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:25:04 +0100 Goran Maksimović [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I tried but I am looking if someone has done it already or does know what should I write in xorg.conf. Bye Goran -Original Message- From: Dave Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:00 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf I have laptop HP nx9105 which has screen 15.4 resolution of 1280x800 and graphics card nVidia GeForce 4 Go 32M and I am looking for some assistance in configuration of xorg.conf J. So, can somebody help me? Try Xorg -configure see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml Dave -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GAT d-(+) s+: a24 C++ UBL++ P L++ E--- W+++$ N+ o? K? w O? M-- V? !PS !PE Y PGP- t++ 5++ X+ R+++ tv+ b++ DI D++ G e+ h-- r++ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ NOD32 1.1441 (20060313) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list xorg.conf Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Passing env variable to ssh?
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:14:33 + (WET) Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want something like this: myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand $myvar [...] This does not work, because remotebox doesn't know about $myvar. Of course, if I could pass a variable to remotebox, the line might be just command=~/bin/mycommand public-key and the ssh command would be myvar=whatever ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand (the program itself would use the value of $myvar) Hm, I think you're making it unnecessary complex. What's wrong with just piping it on stdin? I.e.: Indeed. The problem was me not understanding the relation of stdin with ssh when in non interactive mode... local$ echo whatever | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand and in ./bin/mycommand: --- #!/bin/sh read myvar # do whatever --- I tested and it works great. It seems I have a lot to learn although I use ssh daily with no problems. SIGH Or do you in fact use a pseudo tty on remote side for interactive mode (which would make this a little more difficult)? If you want to keep your way of doing it, I just have a few hints, but didn't test anything, just looked them up out of curiosity: - read man sshd_config, item AcceptEnv, PermitUserEnvironment I knew about PermitUserEnvironment and SendEnv, but somehow I missed AcceptEnv... Anyway, AcceptEnv seems to be global, wich is not what I want. - read man sshd, section LOGIN PROCESS You lost me here! I can't see relevancy---PermitUserEnvironment allows to use variables but not to set them from local. Anyway, stdin is the answer. Thank you. -hwh -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wget won't concatenate(?)
--- Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:38:06 -0800 (PST) maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried wget'ing this on dialup: ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/livecd-i686-installer-2006.0.iso Then, because I needed to use the phone, after downloading 150Megs or so, I ctrl-C'd outta there thinking I could pick up where I left off. Wrong! wget wants to start from the beginning. I gave it the -nc option and it reports 'already there, not retrieving'. Did you actually bother to read what -nc does? In fact I think you were searching -c option... Dang! Your right. -nc seemed like the option to use. Not getting Clobbered is important to me. Sorry you had to descend Olympus to deal with such a trifle. In my defense I can only say I was overcome with an excess of zeal to advance the gentoo project and...aren't -nc and -c out of order? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Passing env variable to ssh?
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Mariusz P?kala wrote: Stdin? echo $myvar | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ./bin/mycommand ? Yup. Thanks! -- Jorge Almeida -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Google-Talk
Abhay Kedia wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 01:07, Mick wrote: Is there way of setting up a VoIP talk session with another person who is using Google Talk? He is running the Google Talk Windoze application. -- If you don't mind using beta stuff then I just saw this on gentoo forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-442920.html Do tell us if it works. Excellent! Thanks for the link, I'll try it as soon as I get a chance and report back. :) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] adding unicode use flag?
Hi, When I first installed Gentoo I missed the +unicode use flag, that I would have liked to have. I didn't worry for a long time, but I have been annoyed enough a bit here and there to consider adding it to my use flags. I'd do it straight, but I remember this old thread: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=274175highlight=ncurses+deathgrip This was a thread about *removing* unicode, actually. However I fear that messing with unicode could create serious problems. Expecially since I woulnd't emerge --newuse everything at once, if possible: I'd just be OK to have unicode when upgrading. Any advice / real life experience? Thanks, m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 07:37 -0500, Denis wrote: Iain, So are you saying that a P4 is actually faster with HT disabled, or simply that you don't have much to gain by using HT? Well, I had read (in a previous HT thread on gentoo-user) that it did indeed degrade performance in many cases, but I've also seen reports that it increases performance in some areas greatly. Doing some more investigation I found this page: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-htl/ There is a lot of information out there - I googled for hyperthreading performance linux and got plenty of reading. So essentially I'm still undecided. I've had a dual-Xeon machine with 4 logical processors running Gentoo for a couple years now, and I like being able to run 4 threads of simulations at the same time. The threads, when started nearly simultaneously, seem to finish the same jobs in nearly the same amount of time... umm.. did I misunderstand something here? What exactly do you mean by threads? If I start some process 4 times on a single core, single cpu system, each one should finish in nearly the same amount of time, because process time gets equally allocated... Or did you mean 4 threads running together finish in the same amount of time as 1 thread running by itself? cya, -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au You can't cheat the phone company. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On 152923032 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (I haven't validated this, but it *shouldn't* break your system. If you are using LVM and have a little extra space, it might just be better to do a chroot install, then boot into it and remove your old install [don't remove /home!]) Thanks for the details Boyd. ;) I have plenty of space so I might try the chroot. I take it I can find chroot gentoo install instructions on the wiki? Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!
Hi, someone posted about ANDREW, the dvd ripper, but the website is down - probably because of all you gentoo-ers going there to check it out :) Has someone already downloaded http://tobemem.memebot.com/download/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 that they can mirror for me? thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Mater artium necessitas. [Necessity is the mother of invention]. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs
Thanks everyone. Just so you'll all have an extra tidbit of knowledge. A co-worker mentioned one other thing that could be a problem, that no one else mentioned. If you have not yet upgraded GCC on an old version, then use an up-to-date installation with a newer GCC, you will have binary incompatibilities with your package build system. On 3/13/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 14:54, Trenton Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Updated gentoo systems and fresh installs': Is there a difference between the two? I have 2005.1 installed. As I've always understood it, my system will now always be up-to-date, as long as I keep updating it. Is 2006.0 any different than 2005.1 after the system has been installed? Not very. Some packages are masked by the profile so changing profiles will change what packages are installed, sometimes. I'm assuming you are using default-linux/x86/2005.1 and thinking about moving to default-linux/x86/2006.0 (there are equivalents for most archs, and probably some of the sub-profiles). If that's the case we see that: $ diff -u 2005.1 2006.0 diff -u 2005.1/make.defaults 2006.0/make.defaults --- 2005.1/make.defaults2005-11-16 11:06:03.0 -0600 +++ 2006.0/make.defaults2006-01-31 17:06:15.0 -0600 @@ -1,5 +1,9 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/make.defaults,v 1.5 2005/11/16 17:00:36 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults,v 1.6 2006/01/31 23:03:05 wolf31o2 Exp $ -USE=alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv +# This is currently commented so that the stage1 tarball can also be used to +# build no-nptl systems. +#STAGE1_USE=nptl + +USE=alsa apache2 apm arts avi cups eds emboss encode esd foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg nptl ogg opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype udev vorbis X xml xmms xv diff -u 2005.1/packages 2006.0/packages --- 2005.1/packages 2005-07-07 16:09:07.0 -0500 +++ 2006.0/packages 2006-01-18 15:19:57.0 -0600 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1/packages,v 1.2 2005/07/07 20:11:37 wolf31o2 Exp $ +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/packages,v 1.1 2006/01/18 21:19:57 wolf31o2 Exp $ Only in 2005.1: vserver (I stripped out the context lines, but things aren't wrapping correctly, so that my be a little hard to read.) ANYWAY, looks to me like vserver support is no longer available as a sub-profile, probably replaced or superceeded by default-linux/x86/vserver and that the default USE flags changed by adding apache2, esd, nptl, udev, and xml and removing bitmap-fonts, fortran, oggvorbis, truetype-fonts, type1-fonts, and xml2. nptl and udev you were probably already using, esd maybe not and it'll probably bring in a dependency or two. I betting xml2 has just gone away, in favor of xml. oggvorbis should have also gone away since there's no special libraries necessary to handle vorbis data in the ogg wrapper other that the ability to handle vorbis data (which can be in another wrapper, like matroska) and open ogg wrappers (which can contain other data like speex or theora). Changing the fortran flag will probably make your gcc recompile, unless you already had it turned off; I don't actually compile fortran, do you? I'm not really sure what's up with the fonts options, but it does make sense to not default to ALL types of fonts. The biggest change is the apache2 flag, so you may want to disable that is you do go with 2006.0 I'm just curious, because I have to install gentoo on a notebook, but I want package compatibility with my server. Do you mean you want to be able to use binary packages from the server, so that you don't have to compile on the notebook? If so, you probably want to keep both make.conf, make.profile, and /etc/portage identical. (If USE flags are different, a binary package will not be used.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Google-Talk
Abhay Kedia wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 01:07, Mick wrote: Is there way of setting up a VoIP talk session with another person who is using Google Talk? He is running the Google Talk Windoze application. -- If you don't mind using beta stuff then I just saw this on gentoo forums http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-442920.html Do tell us if it works. Dang!!! Why does it have to be a kde app :K Does anyone know if jingle support is in any gnome app? Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!
On Monday 13 March 2006 19:21, Iain Buchanan wrote: Has someone already downloaded http://tobemem.memebot.com/download/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 that they can mirror for me? I can mirror it not for terribly long. I've set my server to maxclients of 3, the file is only 171K. ftp://krakrjak.com/pub/ANDREW/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 Please anyone that can mirror this file do so! It will be needed for once it gets a package maintainer. -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] slots
Hey group, I have dev-db/mysql 5.0.18-r30 installed. After a sync I get the following when I run: emerge -avb dev-db/mysql-5.0.19 Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild NS ] dev-db/mysql-5.0.19 +berkdb -big-tables -cluster -debug -embedded -extraengine -max-idx-128 -minimal +perl (-selinux) -srvdir +ssl -static 19,074 kB Total size of downloads: 19,074 kB I read about slots, however I didn't see anywhere to do an upgrade instead of a slot. I don't want/need to versions of mysql on my system. Is there an option to emerge to tell it to only use the latest version of mysql? Or do I need to emerge -c the older mysql? Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 21:12 -0600, Zac Slade wrote: On Monday 13 March 2006 19:21, Iain Buchanan wrote: Has someone already downloaded http://tobemem.memebot.com/download/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 that they can mirror for me? I can mirror it not for terribly long. I've set my server to maxclients of 3, the file is only 171K. ftp://krakrjak.com/pub/ANDREW/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 Please anyone that can mirror this file do so! It will be needed for once it gets a package maintainer. thanks, I've also mirrored it temporarily, but go easy on my isp :) http://iaindb.customer.netspace.net.au/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 MD5 2c66cdba27d0443f5c189e218404c221 andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 171195 RMD160 cb85ac401e8471deff74099b6773e51d4042eecf andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 171195 SHA256 f75b2682387b38fc877a85d8e00ebac1a25e312961fe71de2b2664cd64bdf53d andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 171195 -- Iain Buchanan iain at netspace dot net dot au Every cloud engenders not a storm. -- William Shakespeare, Henry VI -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Monday 13 March 2006 19:14, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination': On 152923032 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (I haven't validated this, but it *shouldn't* break your system. If you are using LVM and have a little extra space, it might just be better to do a chroot install, then boot into it and remove your old install [don't remove /home!]) Thanks for the details Boyd. ;) I have plenty of space so I might try the chroot. I take it I can find chroot gentoo install instructions on the wiki? Eh, just use the handbook. I don't know about the new graphical installer, but the old way [well, maybe not old, gentoo was at 2004.3 before I installed it.] was always to install into a chroot from the livecd environment. You won't have to pull as much data from the net though, since you should be able to bind mount /usr/portage... although be careful with your packages directory. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!
On Monday 13 March 2006 19:21, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!': andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 Hit http://csce.uark.edu/~bss03/andrew-1.2.tar.bz2 but not too hard. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo/proc combination
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 11:44:56PM +1300, Glenn Enright wrote I apreciate that AMD certainly seem to have the memory bandwidth/throughput thing nailed, and their processors stand tall as a result. but I doubt that a p4 would perform near as well without a large part of the enginered paralelism that comes as part HThreading, compared to a purely serial system. I can certainly tell you that compiling (as an example) *wihtout* HT enabled on my P4 is a bad idea, takes nearly 4 times as long. HT is being phased out *ACCORDING TO INTEL*. See article at... http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30087 -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!
What's the secret to compiling ANDREW? Alan Davis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ANDREW homepage is down!
On Monday 13 March 2006 23:26, Alan E. Davis wrote: What's the secret to compiling ANDREW? http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124130 Get the ebuild there. There are a lot of dependencies. Also look at the latest note in the bug. You must build ogmtools with the dvd USE flag. Make sure you read the man page, this ANDREW is really flexible. -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xml2 USE flag description should not have deprecated
The xml2 use flag is described Check/Support flag for XML library (version 2) (deprecated, use xml) My systems used to run +xml +xml2 and I changed that to +xml -xml2, seeing the description. Oh, and I ran emerge -uvDN world as well, to update all packages that had +xml2. Until I realised that OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 does not have the ability to save files as odt or sxw anymore. A warning to those who acted on the deprecated bit in the USEflag description. Aniruddha Shankar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
