[gentoo-user] imlib2 upgrade an ERROR
Hi list, when trying to do an emerge world, the system tries to upgrade to imlib2-1.3.0 from version 1.2(something). But during the configure step, it comes to this error: [..] checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip... i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip checking for correct ltmain.sh version... no configure: error: *** [Gentoo] sanity check failed! *** *** libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh have a version mismatch! *** *** (libtool.m4 = 1.5.22, ltmain.sh = 1.5.22 Debian 1.5.22-4) *** Please run: libtoolize --copy --force if appropriate, please contact the maintainer of this package (or your distribution) for help. make: *** [config.status] Error 1 !!! ERROR: media-libs/imlib2-1.3.0 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile imlib2-1.3.0.ebuild, line 52: Called enlightenment_src_compile enlightenment.eclass, line 150: Called enlightenment_die 'emake failed' enlightenment.eclass, line 102: Called die !!! emake failed !!! SEND BUG REPORTS TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOT THE E TEAM !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. Is this a known error? Regards, mc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error starting Konq after update world
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:55:55 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, meaningless; update world means the packages on YOUR machine, matching YOUR arch and dependencies requires by YOUR use flags have been changed. No one can relate to that without knowing all those settings, or a simple list of the packages updated with genlop --list --date yesterday Your repeating it ever louder does not make it so. Correct, it was already so. update world conveys a major update of the entire OS, No it doesn't. It updates whatever has been updated since you last ran it. This depends on the arch and USE flags you have, which packages you have installed and when you last did it. it could update two packages or two hundred. The point is, the statement gives no indication of which packages you have upgraded, so it is of no real help in diagnosing your problem. then follows a very specific error that I hoped someone would be able to identify. Which I did, and proposed a solution. It didn't work because I assumed you were using the split KDE ebuilds, a list of the packages you had updated would have shown otherwise and enabled me to give the answer I gave later in my first reply. When asking for help, it is difficult to give too much information but all to easy to give too little. Your continued insistance on this appears to be more about opinion than fact. No, it's about asking for the information needed to make a diagnosis. You're running the monolithic KDE ebuilds, so re-emerge kdebase. Incidentally, this is one of the situations where the split ebuilds really pay off, as you'd only have to recompile Konqueror rather than all the core KDE programs. Thanks, I'll be doing that. See, once you gave details about specific packages involved, it was easier to provide advice. Remote diagnosis usually involves some guessing as to the correct answer, don't make us guess the question too. You seem to have taken this as a personal attack, it was not. If you want people to be able to help you, give them what they need. My first response was simply some advice on one way doing this that update world does not achieve. You were not the first to fall into this trap; you will not be the last, but my discussing it I hope it may happen less often. -- Neil Bothwick I'd prefer the non-smoking lifeboat, please. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New install - startx not starting
VIDEO_CARDS was/is set. The tweaking was in USE - 'png' was necessary before 'emerge cario'. GpmOn 11/7/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 07 November 2006 16:06, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 07 November 2006 15:00, Mick wrote: The kernel seems good, I've added 'gpm', and 'xorg-x11'. startx fails complaining about: (EE) Failed to load module radeon (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. My question - how do I get/build this module? Add radeon in your /etc/make.conf under VIDEO_CARDS=radeon And then run: # emerge --newuse -va x11-base/xorg-serverHang on a sec, if VIDEO_CARDS is empty or non-existent, doesn't the ebuild default to building all drivers, like 6.8 did? I never triedthis myself, but I read it in a wiki HOWTO.If true, surely Greg's problem would never have happened?alan-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- GpmThe Morins of Plantsville
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/kbd-1.12-r8
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
If you look at the configure script you will see that it's is testing if you
are on a sparc64. The test shows you aren't which appears to be unrelated to
your problem. Line 153 which appears to be failing is this:
echo ARCH=${TARGET_ARCH/i?86/i386} make_include
which is supposed to substitute i686 with i386 in your case and store it in
make_include as ARCH=i386. I have no clue why that would fail. The only
thing that I can think of is to remerge your shell (probably
app-shells/bash). If noone else has a clue and that doesn't help I guess your
best option is to file a bug with the info you've posted now...
Thanks for your help, and while it might not have been obvious to you
(or anyone else reading along)... everything that was confusing before
is clear now... to me at least. While I can see what is wrong, it isn't
100% clear if it constitutes a bug or not.
The problem is that the configure script starts '#!/bin/sh' - but goes
on to depend upon Bash specific features... specifically substitution.
I expect this would not be a problem for most users where /bin/sh is a
sym-link to /bin/bash but, for me, /bin/sh was a sym-link to
/bin/ash... and, for that shell, line 151 is invalid. What is less
clear is whether or not, in a Gentoo context, it is 'correct' to have
/bin/sh being Borne-like but not Bash-like. By preference I'd prefer
/bin/sh to be the minimal shell that will execute Borne-shell scripts...
but I recognise the Linux-world normality of /bin/sh actually being bash.
As at-least a temporary fix I replaced my /bin/sh-/bin/ash with a
/bin/sh-/bin/bash... and everything now emerges smoothly... From a
prissy perspective I'd have hoped that the configure script would
specify that it needed bash functionality by demanding evaluation by
bash instead of whatever /bin/sh happens to be...
Thanks again,
Steve
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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/kbd-1.12-r8
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:44:31 +, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: The problem is that the configure script starts '#!/bin/sh' - but goes on to depend upon Bash specific features... specifically substitution. I expect this would not be a problem for most users where /bin/sh is a sym-link to /bin/bash but, for me, /bin/sh was a sym-link to /bin/ash... and, for that shell, line 151 is invalid. What is less clear is whether or not, in a Gentoo context, it is 'correct' to have /bin/sh being Borne-like but not Bash-like. By preference I'd prefer /bin/sh to be the minimal shell that will execute Borne-shell scripts... but I recognise the Linux-world normality of /bin/sh actually being bash. Bash behaves differently when called as sh, to avoid just this sort of problem. However, if the script calls /bin/sh while requiring bash features it is clearly broken and a bug should be files. Unfortunately, this type of breakage is all too common; I tried using dash as /bin/sh for a short while and found all sorts of things falling over. In this case, it can be easily fixed, by the ebuild altering the shebang line of configure before running it. -- Neil Bothwick Psychiatrists say that 1 of 4 people are mentally ill. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/kbd-1.12-r8
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 11:44, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: Thanks for your help, and while it might not have been obvious to you (or anyone else reading along)... everything that was confusing before is clear now... to me at least. While I can see what is wrong, it isn't 100% clear if it constitutes a bug or not. The problem is that the configure script starts '#!/bin/sh' - but goes on to depend upon Bash specific features... specifically substitution. I expect this would not be a problem for most users where /bin/sh is a sym-link to /bin/bash but, for me, /bin/sh was a sym-link to /bin/ash... and, for that shell, line 151 is invalid. Heh, I just hadn't noticed that the first line of the script said /bin/sh. That's definitely a bug. Either the script must be modified to only use /bin/sh features or it must request a shell that supports it... -- Bo Andresen pgp2xXc7pJa9O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error starting Konq after update world
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 04:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I'd hoped someone would have had the same or similar situation and error before posted piles of data... so no not meaningless. Yes, meaningless; update world means the packages on YOUR machine, matching YOUR arch and dependencies requires by YOUR use flags have been changed. No one can relate to that without knowing all those settings, or a simple list of the packages updated with genlop --list --date yesterday Your repeating it ever louder does not make it so. update world conveys a major update of the entire OS, then follows a very specific error that I hoped someone would be able to identify. So no not meaningless, Were it actually meaningless no one would have been able to help. I was glad to supply any needed details. Your continued insistance on this appears to be more about opinion than fact. The fact that we may sometimes be able to guess based on the error message doesn't change the fact that saying you upgraded some packages without stating which packages is entirely meaningless. If you would refuse to tell us which then you might as well leave out the fact that you upgraded anything. But it definitely is a lot easier if you just provided the output of e.g. genlop --list --date yesterday as mentioned by Neil. Also the purpose of Neil and I stating this isn't to make you or anyone else look bad but rather to make it easier for everyone in the future... -- Bo Andresen pgpk3QgmNcj5Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Error starting Konq after update world
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No it doesn't. It updates whatever has been updated since you last ran it. This depends on the arch and USE flags you have, which packages you have installed and when you last did it. it could update two packages or two hundred. The point is, the statement gives no indication of which packages you have upgraded, so it is of no real help in diagnosing your problem. Here is meaningless: Konqueror errored out with this message bla bla. What does it mean? What I gave was considerably more. OS update Konqueror errors out bla bla. Any one know what it means. Lets see, OS update, the guy's running kde... we have specific library error. Maybe not so hard for someone who knows enough to make a connection there. Feigning surprise that your `meaningless' phrase was taken as some kind of (light) attack is also pretty phony. One does not liken something that was enough to point out a specific problem as `meaningless' without somekind of ill intent or at least a certain high handedness of language. So drop the surprise charade and just let this fade away. If you need more information just say so. No gimmick required. Once again, thanks for your input. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error starting Konq after update world
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:01:52 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is getting silly, and all because I tried to help you. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned. Here is meaningless: Konqueror errored out with this message bla bla. What does it mean? What I gave was considerably more. OS update Konqueror errors out bla bla. Any one know what it means. Lets see, OS update, the guy's running kde... we have specific library error. But we don't know what changed on your system to cause that error, because you didn't tell us which packages you upgraded. Note that I did not call this statement meaningless but the comment about an update world. Look at my original post again, I edited it so that that comment only applied to a single statement, the error message was referenced later. One does not liken something that was enough to point out a specific problem as `meaningless' without somekind of ill intent or at least a certain high handedness of language. You really don't get it do you? Try reading the thread again, you gave absolutely no indication of which packages were updated. Try looking up meaningless in a dictionary - stating that you did a world update without any context does indeed make that statement without meaning. So drop the surprise charade and just let this fade away. Grow up! If you need more information just say so. No gimmick required. I don't need anything from you. You are the one with the problem, I was trying to help you find a solution. Once again, thanks for your input. Why? You have ignored everything I said to try to diagnose and fix the problem and focused entirely on a perceived insult from a comment that one statement in your original question provided no useful information; even though it also contained an explanation of why this was so and guidance on how to provide that information. I wish I hadn't bothered and had concentrated on the questions I am paid to answer. -- Neil Bothwick Always be sincere... whether you mean it or not! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and spam filter
Daniel Iliev wrote: When such a false positive arrives you could click "the spam button" again (its tooltip should say "mark as not junk") this should fix the problem. I have been doing that for some time now and it still marks them as spam. It is not always the same people but certain ones do get picked on a lot. It seems to get it by subject too I guess. Any ideas where this info is kept? I thought of unmerging and then cleaning out the directory and emerging it again. I'm not sure that will work either though. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless on boot
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 19:35, Luigi Pinna wrote: Alle 20:44, sabato 4 novembre 2006, Neil Bothwick ha scritto: On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:53:39 +0100, Luigi Pinna wrote: But I continue to have some problems... First, on boot time net.eth0 gives up and I must wait until timeout before that boot could continue. emerge ifplugd and read the comments about it in /etc/conf.d/net.example Sorry I answer only now: I was not here! Your command works good, now in boot time I don't wait about net.eth0 but net.wlan0 and net.eth0 seem not active, but the wireless works. I found that my connection is not still stable. I'm not sure but it may have something to do with TTL and MTU sizes being different between your wireless router and your computer wifi card? dmesg is full from this kind of messagges: zd1211:Mixed Mode Assuming that is your zd1211 is your wireless card device I would comment out the mixed and infrastructure mode settings from the /etc/conf.d/net file to see if it makes a difference. If you still cannot find what's causing it I would suggest that you establish a basic connection to the router without passwd authentication, or anything clever and see if that holds the connection. If the connection failures continue, then it may have to do with a hardware problem. If the connection failures go away, then it is a configuration issue. HTH. -- Regards, Mick pgp85sJDXAoP2.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge error
Hi! I try to emerge pgp, and get the following error when the compilation is finished: Source compiled. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-app-crypt_-_gnupg-1.9.20-r3-26975.log access_wr: / What does this mean? Thanks, István -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:03, Stefán István wrote: Hi! I try to emerge pgp, and get the following error when the compilation is finished: Source compiled. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-app-crypt_-_gnupg-1.9.20-r3-26975.log access_wr: / --- - What does this mean? Thanks, István as it says, somewhere the ebuild/app tried to write outside of the sandbox and got stopped. Read the log. Usually that means that something is broken. Try a different pgp version - and don't disable sandbox. Disabling sanbox is evil. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete plugins dissapeared
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Monday 06 November 2006 23:22, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Monday 06 November 2006 22:33, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: I recently emerged modular kde, and along with the coming of kopete 0.12.3 all the plugins dissapeared except for the Cryptography plugin, does anyone now something about this? should i just re emerge it? Thanks in advance! Rafael You'll have to enable the ones you want via USE flags. One flag per each plugin? I am mainly interested in the history plugin do you know which flag i need? where i can find a list of kopete flags? Thanks for your reply emerge -pv kde-base/kopete The history plugin is enabled with the 'history' USE flag. Sorry for taking so long, just wanted to say it all worked perfectly except for the jingle flag which prevented kopete to build properly, i was not interested in such plugin though and got what i wanted anyway, thanks for your help -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error
szerda 08 november 2006 15.18 dátummal Hemmann, Volker Armin ezt írta: On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:03, Stefán István wrote: Hi! I try to emerge pgp, and get the following error when the compilation is finished: Source compiled. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-app-crypt_-_gnupg-1.9.20-r3-26975.log access_wr: / --- - What does this mean? Thanks, István as it says, somewhere the ebuild/app tried to write outside of the sandbox and got stopped. Read the log. Usually that means that something is broken. Try a different pgp version - and don't disable sandbox. Disabling sanbox is evil. To tell the thruth, I don't know what sandbox is. I hasn't disabled it, or at least I don't know about it. The log says only: access_wr: / István -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:03, Stefán István wrote: Hi! I try to emerge pgp, and get the following error when the compilation is finished: Source compiled. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-app-crypt_-_gnupg-1.9.20-r3-26975.log access_wr: / - -- - What does this mean? Thanks, István as it says, somewhere the ebuild/app tried to write outside of the sandbox and got stopped. Read the log. Usually that means that something is broken. Try a different pgp version - and don't disable sandbox. Disabling sanbox is evil. Actually the most likely cause is bug #101433 [1]. Which means he needs to upgrade his sandbox: # FEATURES=-sandbox emerge --oneshot sandbox After that he should have no issues with emerging gnupg without disabling sandbox. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101433 -- Bo Andresen pgpYrGCQiqw45.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and spam filter
Dale wrote: Daniel Iliev wrote: When such a false positive arrives you could click the spam button again (its tooltip should say mark as not junk) this should fix the problem. I have been doing that for some time now and it still marks them as spam. It is not always the same people but certain ones do get picked on a lot. It seems to get it by subject too I guess. Any ideas where this info is kept? I thought of unmerging and then cleaning out the directory and emerging it again. I'm not sure that will work either though. Dale :-) :-) If you are ready to delete all your settings un-merging won't be needed. Just close seamonkey and move/delete your mozilla-home folder. The next time you start seamonkey it would appear as if it was just installed. for example: mv ~/.mozilla ~/MOZILLA-BACK -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kopete plugins dissapeared
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:21:54 +, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Sorry for taking so long, just wanted to say it all worked perfectly except for the jingle flag which prevented kopete to build properly, i was not interested in such plugin though and got what i wanted anyway, thanks for your help jingle apparently works as long as you do not have kdeenablefinal in USE. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151089 -- Neil Bothwick Deja Moo: The feeling that you heard this bull somewhere before. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Error starting Konq after update world
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 14:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it doesn't. It updates whatever has been updated since you last ran it. This depends on the arch and USE flags you have, which packages you have installed and when you last did it. it could update two packages or two hundred. The point is, the statement gives no indication of which packages you have upgraded, so it is of no real help in diagnosing your problem. Here is meaningless: Reader, stop acting like a spoilt brat who needs to have the last say. I really don't care how you define meaningless, but your prattling on about it, defending yourself, making yourself right and Neil wrong is getting tiresome. Here's the real dope: You gave what you thought was useful information. As it turns out, it wasn't. It's just fluff. Neil told you it was fluff and he told you why. Neil is trying to help you, he hasn't sent you an invoice for his time and he's within his rights to tell you what format he wants information in so he can continue to give you this free advice. Dude, it happens. Get over it. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error
szerda 08 november 2006 15.39 dátummal Bo Ørsted Andresen ezt írta: On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:03, Stefán István wrote: Hi! I try to emerge pgp, and get the following error when the compilation is finished: Source compiled. --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE = /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-app-crypt_-_gnupg-1.9.20-r3-26975.log access_wr: / - -- - What does this mean? Thanks, István as it says, somewhere the ebuild/app tried to write outside of the sandbox and got stopped. Read the log. Usually that means that something is broken. Try a different pgp version - and don't disable sandbox. Disabling sanbox is evil. Actually the most likely cause is bug #101433 [1]. Which means he needs to upgrade his sandbox: # FEATURES=-sandbox emerge --oneshot sandbox After that he should have no issues with emerging gnupg without disabling sandbox. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101433 Thank you, it is solved the problem. Best regards, István -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New install - startx not starting
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 12:42, Greg Morin wrote: VIDEO_CARDS was/is set. The tweaking was in USE - 'png' was necessary before 'emerge cario'. Oh good, all's well that ends well. But I'm curious to know how the lack of the png USE flag to cairo caused X to not load your video driver per the original error message. Or was cairo just the last of several somewhat related things that had to be remerged? alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] imlib2 upgrade an ERROR
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 10:18, Marco Calviani wrote: Hi list, when trying to do an emerge world, the system tries to upgrade to imlib2-1.3.0 from version 1.2(something). But during the configure step, it comes to this error: [..] checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ar checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib... i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip... i686-pc-linux-gnu-strip checking for correct ltmain.sh version... no configure: error: *** [Gentoo] sanity check failed! *** *** libtool.m4 and ltmain.sh have a version mismatch! *** *** (libtool.m4 = 1.5.22, ltmain.sh = 1.5.22 Debian 1.5.22-4) *** Please run: libtoolize --copy --force if appropriate, please contact the maintainer of this package (or your distribution) for help. make: *** [config.status] Error 1 !!! ERROR: media-libs/imlib2-1.3.0 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1546: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 937: Called src_compile imlib2-1.3.0.ebuild, line 52: Called enlightenment_src_compile enlightenment.eclass, line 150: Called enlightenment_die 'emake failed' enlightenment.eclass, line 102: Called die !!! emake failed !!! SEND BUG REPORTS TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOT THE E TEAM !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. Is this a known error? I run e17 cvs version and I run into this a lot. Every time, running libtoolize --copy --force like the script says fixes it. It's an enlightenment bug, not a gentoo bug alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] iptables error
Hi, I've done a kernel upgrade, from 2.6.16 to 17-r8 and my iptables stop working. I get this error: # iptables-restore /etc/iptables.noviembre getsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory I have those modules loaded: # lsmod Module Size Used by iptable_filter 3968 0 ip_tables 14436 1 iptable_filter x_tables 14980 1 ip_tables is there anything missing? It worked fine with old kernel... cheers! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WinXP under VMWare: no sound
Hi, On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:31:20 +0100 Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [sp ~]$ aoss vmware [2] 5598 [sp ~]$ ERROR: ld.so: object 'libaoss.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. What are the permissions on *this* one (aoss32 seems not to be for you, so /emul/linux/... isn't relevant), i.e. /usr/lib/libaoss.so (and the file it points to in case it's a symlink)? You answered my last question about why you are mocking with chmod +s with something along the lines of I felt like I had to. What makes you think you have to? Why should those libraries be set with setuid? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT Good DNS registrar?
Are there any readers of this list that still provide their own primary/secondary dns services? Or offer secondary services to others for a fee or free? I'm either a dinosaur or I have missed something fundamental on the evolution of DNS? http://www.easydns.com/secondarydns.php3 http://www.secondarydns.ca/ http://www.backupdns.com/index.html http://www.twisted4life.com/index.php http://soa.granitecanyon.com/ If you're just looking for a place that will simply act as a slave NS for your zones, give one of them a try. There used to be a few more services, and I was offering such services at one point but the sheer volume of plz set up mi DNS plz!! noobs became overwhelming. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
Hi, On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:29:45 +0100 Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done a kernel upgrade, from 2.6.16 to 17-r8 and my iptables stop working. As iptables is very depending on the kernel's API, did you - change kernel configuration? - try re-emerging iptables? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
Perhaps try these modules as well?gentoo sbin # lsmodModule Size Used byxt_tcpudp 7936 1 iptable_nat 10756 1 ip_nat 21292 1 iptable_nat ip_conntrack 51332 2 iptable_nat,ip_natiptable_filter 7296 0 ip_tables 22760 2 iptable_nat,iptable_filterx_tables 18568 3 xt_tcpudp,iptable_nat,ip_tables TimOn 11/8/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I've done a kernel upgrade, from 2.6.16 to 17-r8 and my iptables stopworking.I get this error:# iptables-restore /etc/iptables.noviembregetsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory I have those modules loaded:# lsmodModuleSizeUsed byiptable_filter39680ip_tables144361 iptable_filterx_tables 149801 ip_tables is there anything missing? It worked fine with old kernel...cheers!--Arnau Briahttp://blog.emergetux.netWiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou.Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] parrot openoffice failures
Both parrot-0.4.6 openoffice-2.0.4 (on AMD64) fail to run because they are linked to *.so.34 versions of libraries in dev-libs/icu-3.4.1. The current version is 3.6 with *.so.36 libraries. Is this a bug? If it is a bug, is it a bug against parrot openoffice, icu or portage? BTW, re-emerging parrot fixed parrot's problem, and I have 5 hours, 31 minutes and 40 seconds before I can tell you if it fixed openoffice's problem (I'm assuming it will). --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:16:20 +0100 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:29:45 +0100 Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done a kernel upgrade, from 2.6.16 to 17-r8 and my iptables stop working. As iptables is very depending on the kernel's API, did you - change kernel configuration? nop. just make oldconfig with default values for new options. - try re-emerging iptables? nop, gonna do it. -hwh thanks! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:33:31 +0100 Arnau Bria wrote: As iptables is very depending on the kernel's API, did you - change kernel configuration? nop. just make oldconfig with default values for new options. - try re-emerging iptables? I've recompiled iptables and I still have same problem... -hwh thanks! -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 08:20:48 -0800 Tim Garton wrote: Perhaps try these modules as well? gentoo sbin # lsmod Module Size Used by xt_tcpudp 7936 1 iptable_nat10756 1 ip_nat 21292 1 iptable_nat ip_conntrack 51332 2 iptable_nat,ip_nat iptable_filter 7296 0 ip_tables 22760 2 iptable_nat,iptable_filter x_tables 18568 3 xt_tcpudp,iptable_nat,ip_tables # lsmod Module Size Used by ip_conntrack 46112 0 xt_tcpudp 4096 0 xt_MARK 3328 0 iptable_filter 3968 0 ip_tables 14436 1 iptable_filter x_tables 14980 3 xt_tcpudp,xt_MARK,ip_tables # iptables-restore /etc/iptables.noviembre getsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory (I don't use nat). Thanks for your reply. -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Wiggum: Dispara a las ruedas Lou. Lou: eee, es un tanque jefe. Wiggum: Me tienes hartito con todas tus excusas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]Real compute cycles in a laptop?
On 11/7/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to know enough about these matters already to make a sane judgement, so you probably already know that the real answer to your question is it depends. Here's what I would do: pop along to your local store, preferably not one of the big chains, find the sanest sales guy with a clue and explain your problem. Don't listen to his recommendations, just ask if you can test his demo machines with the actual app in question. If it's an owner run store he probably say yes. Then test the thing for real and measure progress after 30 minutes or so. Buy the best performer. This will take a while, but at least you'll know for real which one suits your needs best alan Thanks Alan. The problem with running the neural network app is that it's a huge install under Windows. It requires Internet access as it has a hardware key that has to be validated against the specific machine. Probably takes 1 hour just to set up. Then, once it's set up it takes maybe 15 minutes to run a single solution on my older Athlon XP 1600+. With that as background I'm sure you can understand that I'm not anxious to do it more than once or twice. What I was hoping to do was find some basic way of comparing the BogoMIPS on my old Athlon XP machine with BogoMIPS on some new machines at the dealer. They haven't had any problems in the past with me bringing in a LiveCD and booting Linux. If I could do this then I might estimate that the new machine will run the same speed or will run 3X the speed when doing these neural network jobs? Here's some info on the machines in my house today: 1) A 3GHz P4HT machine we use as a MythTV backend server and desktop machine: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 3 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping: 3 cpu MHz : 2995.346 cache size : 1024 KB SNIP bogomips: 5996.11 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 3 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz stepping: 3 cpu MHz : 2995.346 cache size : 1024 KB SNIP bogomips: 5990.25 2) My son's AMD Compaq low cost machine: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 47 model name : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 1803.767 cache size : 256 KB SNIP bogomips: 3611.84 3) 1 of 2 Pundit-R's used as Myth frontend machines: processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 3 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz stepping: 4 cpu MHz : 2261.847 cache size : 256 KB SNIP bogomips: 4526.57 4) My AMD64 Gentoo machine is use daily: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 47 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ stepping: 0 cpu MHz : 1809.286 cache size : 512 KB SNIP bogomips: 3619.63 5) The current Athlon XP Windows machine is busy running Trading Solutions but when in Linux I *think* it has a BogoMIPS spec around 2800. No way to verify that right now. It's pretty boring but it seems that you can sort of double the CPU MHz spec and come pretty close to the BogoMIPS numbers. However that doesn't take cache size into account so maybe BogoMIPS isn't even the right thing to be looking at. At the root of it all my questions are: 1) How representative are BogoMIPS in determining how fast a machine will eventually be on compute bound apps? 2) Are there any good listings of BogoMIPS on different processor types and speeds? (This is what I really want) 3) Do BogoMIPS include FPU measurements in case that is important for my app? 4) How well do BogoMIPS translate to the same machine when it runs Win XP? Anyway, thanks very much for your answers. I appreciate the help even if it isn't primarily about running Gentoo. I suspect there are others out there that have to dual boot. Maybe this will help someone in the future with similar questions. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] switched from SiS to VIA chipset - vesa framebuffer broken
Hi, this is a really strange issue i'm having: i changed the motherboard, nothing else. I know have a K8T800Pro based motherboard. The old one was SiS-chipset based. So i was already running the vesa frambuffer at 1280x1024, 16-bit. And actually it worked perfect! No, after the switch to the VIA-chipset based Motherboard, i don't see the text that's printed to the screen. The resulition is switched, but the upper half of the screen stays black. When the text reaches the lower half, then i see the text, and then we come to the point, where the consolefont is set. And guess what: then suddenly everything works. I can see the text on the whole screen and so on. So something is wrong here. Any clue, how i might fix it? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 15:29, Arnau Bria wrote: I get this error: # iptables-restore /etc/iptables.noviembre getsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory Whenever I get errors like these my first step is to run the command under strace, then follow the reams of output backwards to find the file or directory it's looking for. # emerge strace # strace iptables-restore /etc/iptables.noviembre Not quite sure how it will react to the redirection. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X crashes randomly
Well, it seems it was but a temporary glitch, because I haven't had this problem occur anymore. Thanks to everybody for their input. On 11/7/06, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried revdep-rebuild; nothing was broken so nothing was built. And no, I don't have any developer packages installed. I use stable X that employs AIGLX and composite with stable nvidia drivers, and a stable kde that uses transparencies. I've been using Xorg-x11 7.1 ever since it was marked stable, and I've had no problems until yesterday. I literally sent this email not 1 hour after my problems started and I couldn't find anything on bugzilla. On 11/7/06, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 07 November 2006 03:37, Erik wrote: Hello, Starting today, X has been acting a little strange for me. I'll be doing nothing to spectacularer in kde, like typing in openoffice or something else like that, and all of the sudden, X restarts and I am faced with kdm. I don't know if this is a problem with something in kde, kdm, or X, so I don't know where to file a bug. I haven't really seen anything related to what I am dealing with in those places so far. and, the tail end of /var/log/kdm.log: What about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? That showed no errors at all, but I can post it anyway: -- X Window System Version 7.1.1 Release Date: 12 May 2006 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 x86_64 Current Operating System: Linux erikstotle 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 #11 SMP Mon Oct 9 21:19:04 EDT 2006 x86_64 Build Date: 14 October 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Tue Nov 7 07:19:49 2006 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout X.org Configured (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor0 (**) | |--Device Card0 (**) |--Input Device Mouse0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/OTF does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/CID/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ (**) RgbPath set to /usr/share/X11/rgb (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib64/xorg/modules (**) Extension Composite is enabled (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 1.0 X.Org XInput driver : 0.6 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so (II) Module bitmap: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.5 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 7.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 1.0 (++) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,02f0 card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 10de,02fa card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:2: chip 10de,02fe card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 10de,02f8 card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:4: chip 10de,02f9 card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:00:5: chip 10de,02ff card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:6: chip 10de,027f card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:7: chip 10de,027e card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,02fc card , rev a1 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 10de,02fd card , rev a1 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 10de,02fb card , rev a1 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:05:0: chip 10de,0240 card 1043,81cd rev a2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 10de,0270 card 1043,81c0 rev a2 class 05,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10de,0260 card 1043,81c0 rev a3 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:0a:1: chip 10de,0264 card 1043,81c0 rev a3 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:0a:2: chip 10de,0272 card 1043,81c0 rev a3 class
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
On 11/8/06, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've done a kernel upgrade, from 2.6.16 to 17-r8 and my iptables stop working. I get this error: # iptables-restore /etc/iptables.noviembre getsockopt failed strangely: No such file or directory I'd suggest you make a copy of this file and try to identify which rule from this file is causing the error. It is a plain text file, so you can comment out (with '#' characters) various rules (lines that start with '[') to figure out which rule is causing the error. BTW, many of the filter options changed in recent kernels. You should double check your kernel configuration and make sure you have at least CONFIG_NETFILTER=y CONFIG_NETFILTER_XTABLES=m You'll also need at least some CONFIG_NETFILTER_XT_* options under Networking- Networking options - Network packet filtering - Core Netfilter Configuration - -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error
Hi, On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:50:13 +0100 Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 17:33:31 +0100 Arnau Bria wrote: As iptables is very depending on the kernel's API, did you - change kernel configuration? nop. just make oldconfig with default values for new options. - try re-emerging iptables? I've recompiled iptables and I still have same problem... Hrm. Rethinking this, it might be due to an older set of include files in /usr/include/linux. But don't change that, it'll break various things. It might also be older an older interface used by glibc. Do you have other things emerged that are netfilter related? You can try to $ strace iptables-restore iptables.saved and post the last 10-30 lines of output here. There'll probably be a getsockopt call that fails. Also have a look at your kernel's make menuconfig, the module architecture for iptables has changed -- maybe oldconfig didn't do its job well... but I doubt that, since I've compiled everything as modules, too, and there's only the modules you mentioned first loaded for me. Are you running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 ? Maybe you should try for iptables, e.g. $ ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge iptables that should give you iptables-1.3.6(-r1). -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WinXP under VMWare: no sound
On 11/8/06, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You answered my last question about why you are mocking with chmod +s with something along the lines of I felt like I had to. What makes you think you have to? Why should those libraries be set with setuid? This is necessary because vmware is a setuid executable, and you cannot use LD_PRELOAD with setuid executables unless those libraries are *also* setuid. Sergio, try doing chmod +s on /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: switched from SiS to VIA chipset - vesa framebuffer broken
this is a really strange issue i'm having: i changed the motherboard, nothing else. I know have a K8T800Pro based motherboard. The old one was SiS-chipset based. So i was already running the vesa frambuffer at 1280x1024, 16-bit. And actually it worked perfect! No, after the switch to the VIA-chipset based Motherboard, i don't see the text that's printed to the screen. The resulition is switched, but the upper half of the screen stays black. When the text reaches the lower half, then i see the text, and then we come to the point, where the consolefont is set. And guess what: then suddenly everything works. I can see the text on the whole screen and so on. So something is wrong here. Any clue, how i might fix it? So my theory is, that the System-BIOS (which uses graphics mode too, IMHO) does some strange initialization of the graphics card, and the linux-kernel doesn't reset it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and spam filter
On 11/8/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been doing that for some time now and it still marks them as spam. It is not always the same people but certain ones do get picked on a lot. It seems to get it by subject too I guess. How about setting up a message filter for gentoo-user. I believe if you setup a filter to deliver the mail to a specific box, it will bypass any spam filtering (been awhile since I used mozilla mail clients, so not entire sure however). You could also add the specific people to your contacts, which should help the spam filter figure out that they are not spammers. Any ideas where this info is kept? I thought of unmerging and then cleaning out the directory and emerging it again. I'm not sure that will work either though. I *think* it is in the training.dat file in your profile directory (~/.mozilla/..). Unfortunately this is not something that you can edit. You can however reset [1] the data through the junk mail controls in seamonkey. [1] http://opensourcearticles.com/thunderbird_15/english/part_05 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mail system recommendations
I have a small network, consisting of three PCs. Each of these PCs has a public WAN address, and each runs Apache, vsftpd and sendmail (as well as ipkungfu for firewall protection). One of them runs mailman. I would like to replace sendmail with something not so...shall we say prehistoric? I've been advised many times to do so on this list and others. Would anyone please give me some recommendations for a new choice of mail server? I'd like one with plenty if documentation. Thank you. -Michael Sullivan- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail system recommendations
On Thursday 09 November 2006 5:03, Michael Sullivan wrote: I have a small network, consisting of three PCs. Each of these PCs has a public WAN address, and each runs Apache, vsftpd and sendmail (as well as ipkungfu for firewall protection). One of them runs mailman. I would like to replace sendmail with something not so...shall we say prehistoric? I've been advised many times to do so on this list and others. Would anyone please give me some recommendations for a new choice of mail server? I'd like one with plenty if documentation. Thank you. -Michael Sullivan- postfix is supposed to be pretty good. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and spam filter
Daniel Iliev wrote: If you are ready to delete all your settings un-merging won't be needed. Just close seamonkey and move/delete your mozilla-home folder. The next time you start seamonkey it would appear as if it was just installed. for example: mv ~/.mozilla ~/MOZILLA-BACK But I would also loose my email. I archive all these emails just in case. I also already have a ~/.mozilla.old as well. There was something corrupt in there and Seamonkey did not like it. It started after switching to Seamonkey from Mozilla. When I tried to copy my email over, whatever it was was in there as well and Seamonkey was very flakey. The only fix I could find was to rename it to .mozilla.old. Makes me wonder though. Thanks for the tip though. May end up doing that, again. :-( Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and spam filter
Richard Fish wrote: On 11/8/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been doing that for some time now and it still marks them as spam. It is not always the same people but certain ones do get picked on a lot. It seems to get it by subject too I guess. How about setting up a message filter for gentoo-user. I believe if you setup a filter to deliver the mail to a specific box, it will bypass any spam filtering (been awhile since I used mozilla mail clients, so not entire sure however). You could also add the specific people to your contacts, which should help the spam filter figure out that they are not spammers. I already have those set up and it still catches them and moves them to the trash bucket. Any ideas where this info is kept? I thought of unmerging and then cleaning out the directory and emerging it again. I'm not sure that will work either though. I *think* it is in the training.dat file in your profile directory (~/.mozilla/..). Unfortunately this is not something that you can edit. You can however reset [1] the data through the junk mail controls in seamonkey. [1] http://opensourcearticles.com/thunderbird_15/english/part_05 -Richard The screen that is in your link is not in Seamonkey. It doesn't even have a tab that I can see. I guess there is some differences. I thought they were the same just split apart between mail and browser. Hm . . . . This is weird. May rename that file and see what breaks. O_O Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opera 9.10 rc1
On 11/7/06, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi!Unfortunately there a lot of bugs in Opera 9.02... :(But some of them closed in Opera 9.10 RC1 :[...] I made experimental ebuild for it.If someone needs it - please write me!--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listI don't need it, but am willing to test it. -- Régishttp://regis.decamps.info/blog/
[gentoo-user] Re: OT Good DNS registrar?
Jonathan Nichols jnichols at pbp.net writes: http://www.easydns.com/secondarydns.php3 http://www.secondarydns.ca/ http://www.backupdns.com/index.html http://www.twisted4life.com/index.php http://soa.granitecanyon.com/ If you're just looking for a place that will simply act as a slave NS for your zones, give one of them a try. Excellent list! Just what I was looking for. thanks James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]Real compute cycles in a laptop?
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 19:00, Mark Knecht wrote: The problem with running the neural network app is that it's a huge install under Windows. It requires Internet access as it has a hardware key that has to be validated against the specific machine. Probably takes 1 hour just to set up. Then, once it's set up it takes maybe 15 minutes to run a single solution on my older Athlon XP 1600+. With that as background I'm sure you can understand that I'm not anxious to do it more than once or twice. OK, scrap that idea What I was hoping to do was find some basic way of comparing the BogoMIPS on my old Athlon XP machine with BogoMIPS on some new machines at the dealer. They haven't had any problems in the past with me bringing in a LiveCD and booting Linux. If I could do this then I might estimate that the new machine will run the same speed or will run 3X the speed when doing these neural network jobs? For this purpose bogomips is meaningless - it's simply a measure of how fast the cpu can execute a very specific and very tight loop and is used for some timing setting or other during kernel initialization. Bears almost no resemblance to real life operation, other than it's safe to say that bogomips goes up as cpu freq goes up [snip] 5) The current Athlon XP Windows machine is busy running Trading Solutions but when in Linux I *think* it has a BogoMIPS spec around 2800. No way to verify that right now. It's pretty boring but it seems that you can sort of double the CPU MHz spec and come pretty close to the BogoMIPS numbers. However that doesn't take cache size into account so maybe BogoMIPS isn't even the right thing to be looking at. bogomips is usually about double the cpu speed, but you can't count on that. I would imagine that cache size and fpu performance were significant factors. Let's assume this app of your is floating point intensive (fairly safe assumption), and doesn't use a heck of a lot of RAM or disk (already shown to be true). So now you need to rate the fpu of the various processors and machines around. So I would read reviews of various machines in computer performance mags where they publish sane benchmarks, to get an idea of what would be best alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail system recommendations
Michael Sullivan michael at espersunited.com writes: Would anyone please give me some recommendations for a new choice of mail server? I'd like one with plenty if documentation. Hello Michael, assuming want a pre-packaged solution, not using overlay etc, then on one of your gentoo systems, enter: ls /usr/portage/mail-mta to get the list of mta choices in portage. Wietse Venema, author of postfix, is a very sharp individual, so he get's my vote. hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]Real compute cycles in a laptop?
On 11/8/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP It's pretty boring but it seems that you can sort of double the CPU MHz spec and come pretty close to the BogoMIPS numbers. However that doesn't take cache size into account so maybe BogoMIPS isn't even the right thing to be looking at. bogomips is usually about double the cpu speed, but you can't count on that. I would imagine that cache size and fpu performance were significant factors. Let's assume this app of your is floating point intensive (fairly safe assumption), and doesn't use a heck of a lot of RAM or disk (already shown to be true). So now you need to rate the fpu of the various processors and machines around. So I would read reviews of various machines in computer performance mags where they publish sane benchmarks, to get an idea of what would be best alan Yeah - makes sense. Thanks. Back to Google FPU stuff. Thanks for your inputs. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Seamonkey and spam filter
Dale wrote: Daniel Iliev wrote: If you are ready to delete all your settings un-merging won't be needed. Just close seamonkey and move/delete your mozilla-home folder. The next time you start seamonkey it would appear as if it was just installed. for example: mv ~/.mozilla ~/MOZILLA-BACK But I would also loose my email. I archive all these emails just in case. I also already have a ~/.mozilla.old as well. There was something corrupt in there and Seamonkey did not like it. It started after switching to Seamonkey from Mozilla.When I tried to copy my email over, whatever it was was in there as well and Seamonkey was very flakey. The only fix I could find was to rename it to .mozilla.old. Makes me wonder though. Thanks for the tip though. May end up doing that, again. :-( Dale :-) :-) No, you won't loose it. After you start seamonkey again it will recreate its home directory. Make the settings as they were before (I mean the server settings and the accounts) and close seamonkey. Then go deep in the backup directory and you'll find a directory structure similar to: ~/$mozilla-bak/$profile/$unique/Mail/$pop3.my-mail.server.com/ $mozilla-bak- the name you used for backup $profile- normally is default $unique - a directory created by mozilla, e.g. 5r358tza.slt $pop3.my-mail.server.com - I think it is obvious ;) Under $pop3.my-mail.server.com you'll find your mail as files Inbox,Inbox.msf; Sent,Sent.msf, Trash, Trash.msf and so on. Just copy those into the corresponding location of the new mozilla tree and your mail will be there the next time you start seamonkey. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X starting in 640x480 only
On 11/7/06, Christian Herzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I rebooted my PC yesterday my X did not come up (I made an error with etc-update after the resent baselayout upgrade and removed the DISPLYMANAGER setting). After fixing that my X came up, but only at 640x480. During the last days I did not change anything connected to X on my system and rebooted it several times without problems. I am running a x86 system with Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller and 99% stable packages including Xorg 7.1 (the unstable ones are apps, nothing with X). It ran totally fine until yesterday. I tried a lot, remerged X and experimented with settings. I am still not sure what the problem is. There are some things that strike me: In the Xorg log I find: (WW) I810(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 13409 pages failed several occurences of that with different page counts . And this one: (II) I810(0): Not using mode 1280x1024 (no mode of this name) (II) I810(0): Not using mode 1024x768 (no mode of this name) (II) I810(0): Increasing the scanline pitch to allow tiling mode (640 - 1024). (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 1024) (**) I810(0): Built-in mode 640x480 Any idea what the problem is? Thanks. Christian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hello, Have you applied a BIOS update to your machine? If yes, may be you can revert .. Also, check your BIOS for a memory limit in VGA adapters ... -- Andrés -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WinXP under VMWare: no sound
Dear Bo, Hans-Werner, and Richard, I wish at first to thank you for your help. Then, I think that a small recap could be useful. Please, select a fixed font ;-) a) vmwarearts (in vmware-dsp): userlibvmdsp.so result -- --- --- normal chmod -s no preload rootchmod -s no /dev/dsp normal chmod +s no preload rootchmod +s no /dev/dsp b) aoss32 (in alsa-oss): useremul/.../libaoss.so.0.0.0 result -- - -- normal chmod -s no preload rootchmod -s no preload normal chmod +s no preload rootchmod +s no preload c) aoss (in alsa-oss): userlibaoss.so.0.0.0 result -- -- normal chmod -s no preload rootchmod -s sound works normal chmod +s no preload rootchmod +s sound works As to: Richard: Sergio, try doing chmod +s on /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so There is no such file! Now: i) I can't understand why root can't open /dev/dsp when running vmwarearts. I can only guess that aoss works better ;-) ii) suid and sgid bits look insignificant (!) Hans-Werner Hilse: You answered my last question about why you are mocking with chmod +s with something along the lines of I felt like I had to. What makes you think you have to? Why should those libraries be set with setuid? Sorry, my answer was evasive because I've googled a lot and can't remember where I've read that I had to ;-) However, I also tried installing vmwaredsp-1.3 manually, and in the install script, runme.sh, there is the line: install -c -m 64/libvmdsp.so $LIB64/libvmdsp.so (but even the vmwarearts in this package does not work). Richard's answer: This is necessary because vmware is a setuid executable, and you cannot use LD_PRELOAD with setuid executables unless those libraries are *also* setuid. look very interesting, because, as far as I can understand testing ~ # cd /opt/vmware/workstation/bin testing bin # l total 1872 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root12292 Nov 1 00:20 vm-support* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6160 Nov 1 00:20 vmnet-bridge* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 110872 Nov 1 00:20 vmnet-dhcpd* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 118884 Nov 1 00:20 vmnet-natd* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5192 Nov 1 00:20 vmnet-netifup* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8140 Nov 1 00:20 vmnet-sniffer* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4574 Nov 1 00:20 vmplayer* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4946 Nov 1 00:20 vmrun* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4570 Nov 1 00:20 vmware* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 268975 Nov 1 00:20 vmware-config.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 486368 Nov 1 00:20 vmware-loop* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root25488 Nov 1 00:20 vmware-mount.pl* -rws--x--- 1 root vmware 10852 Nov 1 00:20 vmware-ping* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root90467 Nov 1 00:20 vmware-uninstall.pl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 694312 Nov 1 00:20 vmware-vdiskmanager* testing bin # my vmware *is not* setuid! However, nothing changes if I do chmod +s on libaoss *and* vmware: sound only works when I am root, otherwise libaoss is not preloaded. BTW, I've installed Ubunto 6.10 and looked at what happened. Well vmwareesd... works!!! Linux kernel: 2.6.17 i686 glibc: 2.4 libvmdsp.so: setuid (!) I am in the dark. Also because googling around I can see that a similar preload problem occurs rather often in several different cases, but there is seldom a solution Eventually I'll run vmware as root when I'll need sound ;-) Thanks again Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WinXP under VMWare: no sound
Me: As to: Richard: Sergio, try doing chmod +s on /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so There is no such file! Sorry, Richard. I was looking in /emul/linux/x86/lib ;-)) However the results are those reported in my previous message. Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WinXP under VMWare: no sound
On 11/8/06, Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sergio, try doing chmod +s on /emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so
There is no such file!
Hold up. Previously you posted:
LD_PRELOAD=${exec_prefix}/lib/libaoss.so${LD_PRELOAD:+:$LD_PRELOAD}
[...]
[sp ~]$ ERROR: ld.so: object '/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so' from
LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so' from
LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
If this file doesn't exist, then *that* is why preloading doesn't
work. If instead you have emul/.../libaoss.so.0.0.0, then change
the LD_PRELOAD in aoss32 to:
LD_PRELOAD=${exec_prefix}/lib/libaoss.so.0.0.0${LD_PRELOAD:+:$LD_PRELOAD}
I would also add an echo for debugging after that:
echo running with LD_PRELOAD=$LD_PRELOAD
i) I can't understand why root can't open /dev/dsp when running
vmwarearts. I can only guess that aoss works better ;-)
Since preloading appears to work in this case (no error from that), I
am going to assume that this is actually a failure to contact artsd as
root. Note that the effect of preloading is to fool vmware into
contacting artsd instead of opening /dev/dsp...so the error can
actually be slightly misreported.
Are you actually logged into KDE as root, or as your normal user?
What happens when you run artsplay
/usr/kde/3.5/share/sounds/KDE_Startup_1.ogg as root? under your user
account?
ii) suid and sgid bits look insignificant (!)
look very interesting, because, as far as I can understand
testing ~ # cd /opt/vmware/workstation/bin
[snip]
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4570 Nov 1 00:20 vmware*
This is a shell script (your clue is the size). The actual binary
that executes the virtual machine (and this needs to produce sound) is
in /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/bin, and is named vmware-vmx. It is
almost certainly setuid.
(BTW, I should have said vmware _uses_ setuid executables)
my vmware *is not* setuid!
However, nothing changes if I do chmod +s on libaoss *and* vmware:
No, don't make the shell script setuid. That would be a security hole.
sound only works when I am root, otherwise libaoss is not preloaded.
I really don't understand why aoss would only work as root. I suspect
a path or environment issue here, possibly a different library is
actually being loaded. I suspect this has more to do with the actual
path to the library being loaded as root versus your user account.
I'm going to try installing workstation on my amd64 desktop and see what I get.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Opera 9.10 rc1
On Wednesday 08 November 2006 19:13, Régis Décamps wrote: On 11/7/06, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Unfortunately there a lot of bugs in Opera 9.02... :( But some of them closed in Opera 9.10 RC1 : [...] I made experimental ebuild for it. If someone needs it - please write me! I don't need it, but am willing to test it. Ok. I've send it to you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] No working burning cdrom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I tried today to burn some backup data with k3b. Until some days ago all worked perfectly, today I had that message: growisofs - --- :-( unable to anonymously mmap 33554432: Resource temporarily unavailable growisofs command: - --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2169087 -dvd-compat -speed=8 -overburn -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m My dvd-burner is the floppy drive? How can I solve that problem? Since it I can't burn my data more... Thanks, Luigi - -- Public key GPG(0x633F86B7) on hkp://keyserver.linux.it/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFUmTNHmkkjmM/hrcRAk0DAJ0UWT6aASmBYWZNitsn3yD7xDSRQgCeK1j5 ui4Q/zzfHCnaoXPGmVt+MXY= =LtoW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail system recommendations
On 11/8/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a small network, consisting of three PCs. Each of these PCs has a public WAN address, and each runs Apache, vsftpd and sendmail (as well as ipkungfu for firewall protection). One of them runs mailman. I would like to replace sendmail with something not so...shall we say prehistoric? I've been advised many times to do so on this list and others. Would anyone please give me some recommendations for a new choice of mail server? I'd like one with plenty if documentation. For my money I would say run postfix. -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Error starting Konq after update world
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] OK OK folks .. moving on now... Grow up! I'm a little old for that at nearing 70 but it can be embarrassing how some minor or even imagined infraction can nettle way out of proportion to any sensible take on the situation. Why? You have ignored everything I said to try to diagnose and fix the Don't be discouraged from my nonesense It only seemed like I ignored... I actuall fixed it from your and others advice hence my thanks. Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Dude, it happens. Get over it. Point taken... moving on here Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact that we may sometimes be able to guess based on the error message Other point taken too. Sorry about the line noise... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail system recommendations
Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/8/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a small network, consisting of three PCs. Each of these PCs has a public WAN address, and each runs Apache, vsftpd and sendmail (as well as ipkungfu for firewall protection). One of them runs mailman. I would like to replace sendmail with something not so...shall we say prehistoric? I've been advised many times to do so on this list and others. Would anyone please give me some recommendations for a new choice of mail server? I'd like one with plenty if documentation. For my money I would say run postfix. Your setups sound pretty similar to mine and I'll tell you that I've several times attempted to switch ... I tried exim, postfix and something else I've since forgotten. Each time I returned to sendmail and have decided each time that sendmail actually has the best and most complete documentation. It can be aggravating from time to time. My biggest trouble is forgetting all I ever learned each time I need it again. I'd stick with sendmail if I were you. Its usually something kind of minor once you find the problem. Sendmail is by far the most versatile of them all. Spend some time learning the various tests one can run with sendmail and you may be able to fix things yourself more often. I'd also suggest posting whatever problem is bothering you on comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup. There is lots of expert help available there and a thorough search of its archives can sometimes do the job without posting. -- Just my .02. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No working burning cdrom
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 00:14:16 +0100, Luigi Pinna wrote: :-( unable to anonymously mmap 33554432: Resource temporarily unavailable Are you, or K3b, trying to run this as root? This looks like the message that pops up when you run growisofs as root. growisofs command: - --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2169087 -dvd-compat -speed=8 -overburn -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m My dvd-burner is the floppy drive? /dev/fd/0 is stdin, /dev/fd0 is the floppy drive. -- Neil Bothwick Linux like wigwam. No windows, no gates, Apache inside. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] parrot openoffice failures
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:04 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/8/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both parrot-0.4.6 openoffice-2.0.4 (on AMD64) fail to run because they are linked to *.so.34 versions of libraries in dev-libs/icu-3.4.1. The current version is 3.6 with *.so.36 libraries. Is this a bug? If it is a bug, is it a bug against parrot openoffice, icu or portage? No, not a bug. This is quite normal when updating libraries on gentoo that some applications end up with broken dependencies. You should usually follow world updates with revdep-rebuild to ensure that any broken library dependencies get rebuilt. Hmmm, I thought that portage handled dependencies automatically. The other thing I don't understand is why parrot and openoffice failed in the first place. Aren't they're linked against, for example, libicule.so? I thought the whole point of making libicule.so a symlink to the actual library was to allow transparent library upgrades (provided the entry points don't change). BTW, re-emerging parrot fixed parrot's problem, and I have 5 hours, 31 minutes and 40 seconds before I can tell you if it fixed openoffice's problem (I'm assuming it will). Now if openoffice fails to build against the new icu, then _that_ is a bug. :-) Openoffice build successfully. -Richard -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mail system recommendations
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 18:30 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/8/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a small network, consisting of three PCs. Each of these PCs has a public WAN address, and each runs Apache, vsftpd and sendmail (as well as ipkungfu for firewall protection). One of them runs mailman. I would like to replace sendmail with something not so...shall we say prehistoric? I've been advised many times to do so on this list and others. Would anyone please give me some recommendations for a new choice of mail server? I'd like one with plenty if documentation. For my money I would say run postfix. Your setups sound pretty similar to mine and I'll tell you that I've several times attempted to switch ... I tried exim, postfix and something else I've since forgotten. I've looked at postfix qmail only. Each time I returned to sendmail and have decided each time that sendmail actually has the best and most complete documentation. Ditto. It can be aggravating from time to time. My biggest trouble is forgetting all I ever learned each time I need it again. Ditto. I'd stick with sendmail if I were you. Its usually something kind of minor once you find the problem. Sendmail is by far the most versatile of them all. Spend some time learning the various tests one can run with sendmail and you may be able to fix things yourself more often. I'd also suggest posting whatever problem is bothering you on comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup. There is lots of expert help available there and a thorough search of its archives can sometimes do the job without posting. -- Just my .02. -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] parrot openoffice failures
On 11/8/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:04 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/8/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both parrot-0.4.6 openoffice-2.0.4 (on AMD64) fail to run because they are linked to *.so.34 versions of libraries in dev-libs/icu-3.4.1. The current version is 3.6 with *.so.36 libraries. Is this a bug? If it is a bug, is it a bug against parrot openoffice, icu or portage? No, not a bug. This is quite normal when updating libraries on gentoo that some applications end up with broken dependencies. You should usually follow world updates with revdep-rebuild to ensure that any broken library dependencies get rebuilt. Hmmm, I thought that portage handled dependencies automatically. Not reverse library dependencies. Portage handles the case where you install pkg a that depends on libraries from pkg b. It does not handle rebuilding a when b is updated to a new (major) version. It can also use slots to keep old and incompatible versions of a library around...for example for gtk1 vs gtk2 apps. The other thing I don't understand is why parrot and openoffice failed in the first place. Aren't they're linked against, for example, libicule.so? I thought the whole point of making libicule.so a symlink to the actual library was to allow transparent library upgrades (provided the entry points don't change). Key statement: provided the entry points don't change. The standard convention is to link against the major version of a library, i.e. libstdc++.so.6 instead of libstdc++.so when given -lstdc++. This is because the normal convention is that incompatible library versions (fex, changes to a function arguments) require a change in the library major number. It is not uncommon to have two major versions of a library installed...you can easily have something like qt3 (libqt-mt.so.3) and qt4 (libqt-mt.so.4) at the same time with some applications that need one version and some that need the other. Minor library updates (those update the Y or Z components of libfoo.so.X.Y.Z) work as you describe...allowing a transparent upgrade of the library. BTW, this behavior is defined not by the linker itself, but by the actual libraries. When creating a shared library, the developer uses the -soname option to define what actual library name should be linked against, rather than what was specified on the linker command line. Thus, the libfoo.so link usually only serves to tell the linker what major library version to link with by default. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] usb port replicator with full linux support
Hi all, I'm looking for a USB2.0 hub, with some ports like 10/100 ethernet at least (can't get a docking station for my laptop). It all has to work with linux of course :) Does anyone have any experience with these things? Can you suggest your favourite? http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_product_info.php?input[product_code]=CO-UH6260 This one I found says won't work with Dell - why not? All my other usb devices work with this Dell laptop... any links / tips would be appreciated. thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iain at pcorp dot com dot au We can embody the truth, but we cannot know it. -- Yates -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] parrot openoffice failures
Thanks for taking the time to explain. --- Vladimir On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 18:47 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/8/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 10:04 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 11/8/06, Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both parrot-0.4.6 openoffice-2.0.4 (on AMD64) fail to run because they are linked to *.so.34 versions of libraries in dev-libs/icu-3.4.1. The current version is 3.6 with *.so.36 libraries. Is this a bug? If it is a bug, is it a bug against parrot openoffice, icu or portage? No, not a bug. This is quite normal when updating libraries on gentoo that some applications end up with broken dependencies. You should usually follow world updates with revdep-rebuild to ensure that any broken library dependencies get rebuilt. Hmmm, I thought that portage handled dependencies automatically. Not reverse library dependencies. Portage handles the case where you install pkg a that depends on libraries from pkg b. It does not handle rebuilding a when b is updated to a new (major) version. It can also use slots to keep old and incompatible versions of a library around...for example for gtk1 vs gtk2 apps. The other thing I don't understand is why parrot and openoffice failed in the first place. Aren't they're linked against, for example, libicule.so? I thought the whole point of making libicule.so a symlink to the actual library was to allow transparent library upgrades (provided the entry points don't change). Key statement: provided the entry points don't change. The standard convention is to link against the major version of a library, i.e. libstdc++.so.6 instead of libstdc++.so when given -lstdc++. This is because the normal convention is that incompatible library versions (fex, changes to a function arguments) require a change in the library major number. It is not uncommon to have two major versions of a library installed...you can easily have something like qt3 (libqt-mt.so.3) and qt4 (libqt-mt.so.4) at the same time with some applications that need one version and some that need the other. Minor library updates (those update the Y or Z components of libfoo.so.X.Y.Z) work as you describe...allowing a transparent upgrade of the library. BTW, this behavior is defined not by the linker itself, but by the actual libraries. When creating a shared library, the developer uses the -soname option to define what actual library name should be linked against, rather than what was specified on the linker command line. Thus, the libfoo.so link usually only serves to tell the linker what major library version to link with by default. -Richard -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?
I've got an old PII with a 3.2 gig drive (yes, the decimal point is for real) that runs one OS/2 video game (Galactic Civilizations 2.5). It's my only non-linux machine. I've tried qemu (no luck) and bochs (OS/2 boots 640x480, but Galciv crashes). Has anybody got OS/2 hosted and working on linux? If so, how did you do it? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distfiles on samba and 2.6.18
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:09:23 +1100 Dave Oxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since upgrading to the 2.6.18 kernel I get this on my client machine when trying to emerge. I have distfiles mapped to a server samba share and this works if I boot back up into 2.6.17. Does anyone have any ideas how to stop this happening? [...] File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_locks.py, line 159, in unlockfile locking_method(myfd,fcntl.LOCK_UN) IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied Error in sys.exitfunc: Look at /etc/make.conf.example: First try cleaning the locks using /usr/lib/portage/bin/clean_locks If that doesn't work, you have more options: - specify a PORTAGE_TMPFS (albeit I'm not sure if this applies for distfiles locks, too), - remove distlocks FEATURE. -hwh Cleaning the locks had no effect. Neither did setting PORTAGE_TMPFS. I had to remove distlocks which also disabled parallel-fetching. I don't understand why this only happens with 2.6.18 and it seems like a bug, but at least I can continue to use my samba share distfiles now. Cheers, Dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFUqi0x43ifHzpDVURAqGDAJ9HZKa1kXhpL/mYJplqNvwWKRxlFgCfYNQv HAdXuzRyxbY1LIMlNNvx6V0= =e91e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X starting in 640x480 only
On 11/9/06, Andrés Becerra Sandoval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/06, Christian Herzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I rebooted my PC yesterday my X did not come up (I made an error with etc-update after the resent baselayout upgrade and removed the DISPLYMANAGER setting). After fixing that my X came up, but only at 640x480. During the last days I did not change anything connected to X on my system and rebooted it several times without problems. I am running a x86 system with Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller and 99% stable packages including Xorg 7.1 (the unstable ones are apps, nothing with X). It ran totally fine until yesterday. I tried a lot, remerged X and experimented with settings. I am still not sure what the problem is. There are some things that strike me: In the Xorg log I find: (WW) I810(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 13409 pages failed several occurences of that with different page counts . And this one: (II) I810(0): Not using mode 1280x1024 (no mode of this name) (II) I810(0): Not using mode 1024x768 (no mode of this name) (II) I810(0): Increasing the scanline pitch to allow tiling mode (640 - 1024). (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 1024) (**) I810(0):Built-in mode 640x480 it clearly says no mode of the name, check the version of xorg.conf you're using. post the section related,good luckdaniel Any idea what the problem is? Thanks. Christian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No working burning cdrom
On Thursday 09 November 2006 04:44, Luigi Pinna wrote: Hi! I tried today to burn some backup data with k3b. Until some days ago all worked perfectly, today I had that message: growisofs --- :-( unable to anonymously mmap 33554432: Resource temporarily unavailable growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:2169087 -dvd-compat -speed=8 -overburn -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m My dvd-burner is the floppy drive? How can I solve that problem? Since it I can't burn my data more... Thanks, Luigi Its to do with a kernel upgrade. Do a ulimit -l unlimited before starting k3b in the same session. -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgpENLMz8hyFU.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?
Have you tried VMWare? The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it). Then you can make a VM for OS/2 however you like it, and use the FREE VMWare Player to continue indefinitely. I suspect VMWare will work flawlessly for you -- it's pretty much the single best piece of software ever written. -Original Message- From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:00 PM To: Gentoo Users List Subject: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux? I've got an old PII with a 3.2 gig drive (yes, the decimal point is for real) that runs one OS/2 video game (Galactic Civilizations 2.5). It's my only non-linux machine. I've tried qemu (no luck) and bochs (OS/2 boots 640x480, but Galciv crashes). Has anybody got OS/2 hosted and working on linux? If so, how did you do it? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody got OS/2 working under linux?
Daevid Vincent wrote: Have you tried VMWare? The workstation version has a free 30 day trial (just emerge it). Then you can make a VM for OS/2 however you like it, and use the FREE VMWare Player to continue indefinitely. I suspect VMWare will work flawlessly for you -- it's pretty much the single best piece of software ever written. There is also VMWare server, which is also free, and allows you to create new VMs. It also allows you to script things, and remotely control things (like starting/stopping/suspending VMs). http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] rdesktop always fails with ERROR: send: Connection reset by peer
Hi, Sorry for writing the first email in german - it was meant for gentoo-user-de :-/ Now the same question in english... Wolfgang Liebich schrieb: I've got a new PC at work and installed it with gentoo linux. My old work PC is also a gentoo system. I tried to setup the machines pretty similar. BUT: On my new PC rdesktop can't connect to any of our WindowsXP machines. I always get the error message listed above (a windows for rdesktop appears disappears after the error msg is shown). On my OLD system, rdesktop (with the SAME arguments) works as designed! According to eix the same version of rdesktop is installed on both systems (which are kept up to date with frequent emerge --deep --newuse --tree --ask world). eix -I rdesktop ays: * net-misc/rdesktop Available versions: 1.4.1 ~1.5.0 ~1.5.0-r1 Installed: 1.4.1 Homepage: http://rdesktop.sourceforge.net/ Description: A Remote Desktop Protocol Client according to equery uses the USE flags are the same, too: equery uses rdesktop [ Searching for packages matching rdesktop... ] [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend: Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ] [ : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ] [ Found these USE variables for net-misc/rdesktop-1.4.1 ] U I - - debug : Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects vary across packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES=nostrip too - - ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6 - - oss : Adds support for OSS (Open Sound System) So ... how can I proceed? Puzzled in Vienna, Wolfgang Liebich -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No working burning cdrom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 06:49, giovedì 9 novembre 2006, Mrugesh Karnik ha scritto: [...] Its to do with a kernel upgrade. Do a ulimit -l unlimited before starting k3b in the same session. As user: $ ulimit -l unlimited bash: ulimit: max locked memory: cannot modify limit: Operation not allowed as root it is works! Now the question is how can I rescue it as default and allow it to users? What does it mean a kernel update? Thanks, Luigi - -- Public key GPG(0x633F86B7) on hkp://keyserver.linux.it/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFUtiLHmkkjmM/hrcRAkhqAKCUzxKuNjyGWZr4IN3DukAlRFSYTgCeJWgt DjM2ups9wxmzD5W3YzecTBA= =WW7R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WinXP under VMWare: no sound
Richard Fish:
On 11/8/06, Sergio Polini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sergio, try doing chmod +s on
/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so
There is no such file!
Hold up. Previously you posted:
[cut]
If this file doesn't exist,
That file esists. I was looking in /emul/linux/x86/lib. ;-)
If instead you have emul/.../libaoss.so.0.0.0, then change
the LD_PRELOAD in aoss32 to:
LD_PRELOAD=${exec_prefix}/lib/libaoss.so.0.0.0${LD_PRELOAD:+:$LD_PR
ELOAD}
I would also add an echo for debugging after that:
echo running with LD_PRELOAD=$LD_PRELOAD
If I write:
LD_PRELOAD=${exec_prefix}/lib/libaoss.so.0.0.0${LD_PRELOAD:+:
$LD_PRELOAD} exec $@
echo running with LD_PRELOAD=$LD_PRELOAD
I get:
[sp ~]$ aoss32 vmware
ERROR: ld.so: object '/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib/libaoss.so.0.0.0' from
LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
(five times)
and the echo statement is not executed.
If I write:
LD_PRELOAD=${exec_prefix}/lib/libaoss.so.0.0.0${LD_PRELOAD:+:
$LD_PRELOAD} echo running with LD_PRELOAD=$LD_PRELOAD exec $@
I get:
[sp ~]$ aoss32 vmware
running with LD_PRELOAD=
?
However: no preloading error message, but sound does not work.
BTW: are you sure sure that one can still set LD_PRELOAD to an
*absolute* path?
Are you actually logged into KDE as root, or as your normal user?
Always as a normal user. I open a new root shell in Konsole when I
wish to be root.
What happens when you run artsplay
/usr/kde/3.5/share/sounds/KDE_Startup_1.ogg as root? under your
user account?
I can hear the sound.
This is a shell script (your clue is the size). The actual binary
that executes the virtual machine (and this needs to produce sound)
is in /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/bin, and is named vmware-vmx. It
is almost certainly setuid.
Right. I apologize for my foolishness/laziness. Let me say that I was
a bit tired yesterday evening ;-)
I really don't understand why aoss would only work as root. I
suspect a path or environment issue here, possibly a different
library is actually being loaded. I suspect this has more to do
with the actual path to the library being loaded as root versus
your user account.
On Marc 27th, 2005 you wrote in a VMWare Forum:
Ok, I got it figured out. It seems that in response to GLSA
200408-16, Gentoo made a patch that in addition to fixing the
LD_DEBUG vulnerability, moved the cleansing of the environment
to before the values were saved. This part of the change is not in
the official glibc CVS source, and the patch is not applied for
glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1 (currently marked for testing...).
So Gentoo users will need to upgrade their glibc to at least
2.3.4.20050125 to use LD_PRELOAD with setuid binaries.
Are you sure that that has not been reverted in glibc 2.4-r3?
I'm going to try installing workstation on my amd64 desktop and see
what I get.
Thanks!!!
Sergio
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