date:20061203

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 13:50:36 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:

 If you are still following this thread... It's not your problem... it's
 an unexpected reaction between kbuild in latter version of kernels and
 portage. The simple fix is to patch kbuild in /usr/src/linux...

No it's not, although that has affected a number of other packages. In
this case, the fault is with lirc and has been fixed.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156807


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Re: [gentoo-user] glib doesn't compile


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:


On Saturday 02 December 2006 20:32, Jorge Almeida wrote:

I'm failing to emerge glib (_not glibc_!) when emerging -NDu world. My
system is up-to-date (emerging almost everyday).


No clue why there's no -pthread and -lpthread on your system but maybe it's
the problem. Either way I suggest that you file a bug..


I'm recompiling glibc, just in case there's some problem with my system
and not really a bug.
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best method for automounting...

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 13:58:26 -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:

  I don't normally want it to leave CF cards alone, but just tried and
  it worked perfectly. Bear in mind that there is no differentiation
  between different physical formats of flash media, but that KDE
  considers anything with a dcim directory in the root to be a camera.
  I just set the auto-action for unmounted camera to Ignore and plugged
  in my camera's CF card and it did not automount. all that happened
  was that an icon appeared on the desktop, which I could also disable
  if I wished.
 
  It sounds more like a misconfiguration than a bug.  
 
 If you spend a bit of time googleing the problem, a lot of people are
 trying to deal with it.

I would if I understood what the problem was. You say you want KDE to
leave CF cards alone, now you seem to be saying that you want it to
automount them and then leave them alone. Please provide a URL
explaining the problem.

 Not everyone works on a desktop/gui all the time... What happens, and
 this is documented in a lot of google matches, once you mount a cf
 card... hald won't let go... the only way to get in unmounted is to
 turn the hal daemon off. This is a horrible situation if you do work
 with cli while kde is being used by someone else.

I've just tried this. I plugged in a CF card, let KDE automount it and
then switched to a VC and pumounted it as the same user, no problem. I
expected there to be a problem if a file manager window was showing the
contents of the card, this used to happen because konqueror had a lock on
the mount point, but that also worked perfectly.

 Form the looks of everything offered... it's easier to not support the
 kde media manager and use autofs... It'll be something to plan on
 administrating, but at least it works 100% with concurrent kde and cli
 sessions.

Autofs polls the drive to see if it's still there, unlike HAL/D-BUS based
solutions that use system messages. This always struck me as rather
kludgy. KDE's automount/hotplug support was patchy a few releases ago,
particularly in 3.4 IIRC correctly, but it seems to work just as expected
now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Daylight Savings Time patch ...

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:02:01 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

 I agree.  In fact, we should just do away with timezones altogether
 and all start using UTC. :-)

Let's get rid of those confusing hours and minutes too and use a decimal
system like Swatch time http://www.timeanddate.com/time/internettime.html


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[gentoo-user] gvim slow to start


My gvim now takes about some 5s to start. It started happening after
emerge -NDu world. revdep-rebuild has no requirements. The no-gui vim
(started from KDE's konsole) still is as fast as ever. The difference
between vim and gvim used to be almost negligible...
I noticed that both were compiled with the bash-completion USE
variable, so I recompiled gvim without it. No difference. I also tried
gvim -R and gvim -u NONE, but it makes no difference.
What else can I do?
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[gentoo-user] SATA

2006-12-03 Thread Alan E. Davis


I am trying to install a SATA drive from another machine, so I can
access backups and install them into the current system's filesystem.

lspci gives the following
moon lngndvs # lspci |grep ATA
 00:16.1 IDE interface: ALi Corporation ULi M5288 SATA

However according to dmesg, nothing is recognized or configured.  I'm
not sure where to turn next.  Besides compiling support into the
kernel, what else must me done? I have compiled a kernel with support
for ULI SATA (SCSI_SATA_ULI).

Uncle!  (Can someone point to a useful doc?)

Alan Davis
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[gentoo-user] Media Player

2006-12-03 Thread Kellystewart00

Hey,
  Im relatively new to the whole gentoo system but im looking for a basic 
easy to use dvd player program something that isn't too touchy basically. Any 
reccomendations or opinions on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Kelly Stewart
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Re: [gentoo-user] Media Player

On Sunday 03 December 2006 12:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey,
   Im relatively new to the whole gentoo system but im looking for a
 basic easy to use dvd player program something that isn't too touchy
 basically. Any reccomendations or opinions on this would be greatly
 appreciated!

# emerge -uDv xine-lib xine-ui gxine

and 

# emerge -uDv mplayer kmplayer mplayerplug-in

should give you the two video players that linux offers.  You can try both and 
see which one suits your needs/preferences better.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Media Player

2006-12-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

On Sunday 03 December 2006 06:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Media Player':
 im looking for a
 basic easy to use dvd player program something that isn't too touchy
 basically.

I like kaffeine, though other KDE users swear by kmplayer.  Codine is a KDE 
frontend for xine that focuses on being simple to use.

If you've chosen gnome as your desktop these will pull in some parts of KDE 
as dependencies, resulting in a bigger footprint both in memory and HD 
space, but should work fine and not affect the rest of your desktop.  
Alternatively, you could see if any friendly gnome user has a suggestion 
or two.

-- 
If there's one thing we've established over the years,
it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability.
-- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh


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[gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD to 
take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and (if 
it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an iso 
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I 
came to the conclusion that the combination of 
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start 
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable 
economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies 
when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only 
some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only they 
could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:

-r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob

There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent 
failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that 
they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I 
don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you 
recommend?
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Mick


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RE: [gentoo-user] Media Player

2006-12-03 Thread Alex Bogak

Totem (based on xine); vlc and mplayer (or Gmplayer) are all good and fairly
easy.

Last time I checked (and it was yesterday), I inserted DVD; totem started
and ran into movie - all automatic.

I use Gnome as an interface.

Hope it helps

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 14:59
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Media Player

Hey,
  Im relatively new to the whole gentoo system but im looking for a
basic easy to use dvd player program something that isn't too touchy
basically. Any reccomendations or opinions on this would be greatly
appreciated!

Thanks

Kelly Stewart
Sent via BlackBerryR from Vodafone  

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA

On Sunday 03 December 2006 12:58, Alan E. Davis wrote:
 I am trying to install a SATA drive from another machine, so I can
 access backups and install them into the current system's filesystem.

 lspci gives the following
 moon lngndvs # lspci |grep ATA
   00:16.1 IDE interface: ALi Corporation ULi M5288 SATA

 However according to dmesg, nothing is recognized or configured.  I'm
 not sure where to turn next.  Besides compiling support into the
 kernel, what else must me done? I have compiled a kernel with support
 for ULI SATA (SCSI_SATA_ULI).

It's most likely a kernel issue (or the lack of the SATA controller in your 
host machine?!).  Compile CONFIG_SCSI_SATA into your kernel and try again.
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[gentoo-user] Overlay SVN problem

2006-12-03 Thread jak gentoo


Hi all,

I have a problem, here's the descrition:
I tried to emerge emerald- from the xeffects overlay, but the progress
hang up, so I hit crtl+c an it told me it caught the signal but is still
cleaning up, but after five minutes notting happend so I killed the
processes and now I have a problem.
when  I try the emerge emerald again it tells me:

svn: Working copy '.' locked
svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)

!!! ERROR: x11-wm/emerald- failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_unpack
 ebuild.sh, line 708:   Called src_unpack
 ebuild.sh, line 1255:   Called subversion_src_unpack
 subversion.eclass, line 274:   Called subversion_fetch
 subversion.eclass, line 195:   Called die


I ran svn cleanup on different directories but it seems I didn't get the
right one because the lock is still aktive.
does someone know on which directory I have to run svn ceanup to solve the
locking problem???

thanks

jakommo

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Update - HowTo

On Saturday 02 December 2006 19:22, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 12/2/06, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The next step which I'm afraid of is upgrading
  to glibc-2.5
 
  Having destroyed (the system) of my machine some years
  ago by upgrading glibc (on Suse), I know that this
  is not a trivial step.

 Actually the glibc-2.4 to 2.5 upgrade is pretty trivial, *if* you
 already have nptl/nptlonly USE flags set.  If you are using a i386
 CHOST (vs i686 or x86_64), then you end up having to change CHOST
 before you can upgrade since glibc-2.5 is nptlonly, and that is not
 trivial unfortunately.  See the current thread on this list.

  So, the question:
 
  Is there a general source of information about
  warnings, actions to be taking, etc  to be followed
  when upgrading certains critical packages.

 Generally speaking, if you set in make.conf:

 PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=warn error log
 PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM=save

 then any ebuilds that want to warn you or give you actions to take
 will create files in /var/log/portage/elog/ for you to read.  You can
 just delete these once you've taken whatever action is required.

 More complicated upgrades (like the switch to modular-X, or gcc
 upgrades) usually have some kind of guide created before they reach
 stable.  But at this point, there isn't any single-page reference for
 these guides...probably something we should have.

Also, the GWN gives a heads up on substantial system component upgrades and 
links to upgrade guides, which is fine as long as you are not running ~ARCH 
and bleeding edge version packages.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread jak gentoo


On 12/3/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
to
take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
(if
it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
iso
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I
came to the conclusion that the combination of
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my
movies
when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only
some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only
they
could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:

-r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob

There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
recommend?
--
Regards,
Mick




Hi Mick,
I'm not sure if this is what you want, but there is a tool in portage called
dvdrip, maybe that helps.
I never used it so I don't know if it will suit your needs.

[gentoo-user] emerging nis-utils

2006-12-03 Thread DMathison

generic.c:30:16: error: mp.h: No such file or directory

thank you for your time,

Daryl Mathison 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging nis-utils

2006-12-03 Thread DMathison

I should have read the email before i sent it. Sorry.
I am installing nis on my network of gentoo machines.  During the
compilation step I keep having the error in the original message.  I
performed a find / -name mp.h on my system and couldn't find it.  If you
need it, i can supply the call stack.

Thank you for your time,


Daryl Mathison
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, December 3, 2006 8:51 am
Subject: [gentoo-user] emerging nis-utils
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

 generic.c:30:16: error: mp.h: No such file or directory
 
 thank you for your time,
 
 Daryl Mathison 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Novensiles divi Flamen

On Sunday 03 December 2006 23:28, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
 to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
 (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.


 There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
 failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
 they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
 don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
 recommend?

For travelling I transcode my movies and fit three on a single DVD. If you are 
only watching it on your laptop this is fine, although you can see artifacts 
at that ratio. I use DVD::RIP and set it based on a target size of 1.5GB.

You can get all manual about it and use just the vobs and be all mathematical 
about the transcode CLI options, but for my time and simple movies on the go 
DVD::RIP is the shit.

- Noven
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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 22:58:36 +1000, Alan E. Davis wrote:

 However according to dmesg, nothing is recognized or configured.  I'm
 not sure where to turn next.  Besides compiling support into the
 kernel, what else must me done? I have compiled a kernel with support
 for ULI SATA (SCSI_SATA_ULI).

Which kernel? The SATA stuff moved around in 2.6.19.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Uwe Thiem

On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
 to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
 (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

 I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
 iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
 topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
 K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
 trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
 economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.


 So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies
 when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only
 some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only
 they could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are
 approx.:

 -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob

 There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
 failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
 they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
 don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
 recommend?


--- begin script ---

#! /bin/sh

BITRATE=730

VIDCOM=-ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=$BITRATE:pass
AUDCOM=-oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=0:br=64

RMLOG=rm divx*.log

if [ $# != 2 ]; then
  echo Usage: encode infile outfile
  exit 1
fi

$RMLOG

mencoder $1 $VIDCOM=1 $AUDCOM -o $2
mencoder $1 $VIDCOM=2 $AUDCOM -o $2

$RMLOG

--- end script ---

if you launch the script like encode dvd:// yourfile.avi it will read from 
the dvd drive. You might want to set BITRATE to something in the range of 
2000.

Beware, this is *extremely* slow but leads to the best quality at the highest 
compressions rate (depending on BITRATE) I have encountered so far.

Oh yes, and you need the x264 codec. It is in portage.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:

 I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
 DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
 laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower bitrate. A
simple program for doing just this is k9copy



* app-cdr/k9copy
 Available versions:  !1.0.3b !1.0.4 [M]1.1.0_beta1 [M]1.1.0_beta2
 Homepage:http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/
 Description: k9copy is a DVD backup utility which allow the
  copy of one or more titles from a DVD9 to a DVD5


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[gentoo-user] xfce4 session strange behaviour...

2006-12-03 Thread pk


Hi!

Since my upgrade to GCC4.1.1 and Glibc 2.4 I've had this annoying 
problem with xfce4 session; whenever I log in it takes a lot longer than 
it used to for the session to come up. When it does come up I have two 
xterm's running that _should_ be sitting on the far left and far right 
side respectively with a size of 100x85 each. Unfortunately since the 
upgrade they show up but only next to each other and with a size of 
80x24. It seems that xfce4-session only cares about running the program 
but forgets size/position. Anyone else who has encountered this? Anyone 
know of any solution?


Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] Media Player

2006-12-03 Thread Hans de Hartog


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey,
  Im relatively new to the whole gentoo system but im looking for a basic 
easy to use dvd player program something that isn't too touchy basically. Any 
reccomendations or opinions on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Kelly Stewart
Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  



And there's Ogle

Features

* Supports DVD menus and navigation.
* Reads from mounted, unmounted DVDs and hard drive.
* Reads encrypted and unencrypted DVDs using libdvdread/libdvdcss.
* A new MPEG2 decoder with MMX, Altivec and SUN Solaris mediaLib 
acceleration.
* Normal X11 and XFree86 Xvideo display support with subpicture 
overlay.

* Accelerated display on Sun FFB2+ cards.
* Audio and subpicture selection.
* Handles advanced subpicture commands such as fade/scroll and wipe.
* Detects and uses correct aspect for movie and menus.
* Possible to play AC3, DTS, MPEG, LPCM via S/PDIF.
* Hardware yuv2rgb on Sun FFB2+ (Creator3D).
* Fullscreen mode.
* Screenshots with and without subpicture overlay.
* Title/chapter search.
* Audio formats supported: AC-3, MPEG, LPCM (DTS only via SP/DIF).

Limitations

* Reverse play not implemented.
* No angle selection during playback (angle selection in DVD menu 
works).

* No closed caption support (not the same as subpicture subtitling).
* DTS audio not supported (other than via SP/DIF).
* To play another DVD you have to restart the program.
* Karaoke mode is missing.
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[gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

2006-12-03 Thread Jerônimo Backes

Hi! 

I have a laptop with lots of documents, plus, I am writing lots of
documents. When I'm working with these files, I stop after every 2 to 4
hours of work to save the changes, copying the updated files on a
external hard drive. I also send them to two e-mail accounts (gmail and
yahoo).

Is there a tool to make these repetitive tasks automatically? I would
like to have something that just copies the updated (and new) files to
my external HD, in order to keep both directories' contents in sync  (on
my laptop: /home/jbackes/documents; on my external
HD: /mnt/external/backup/documents/) .

And for the activity of packing and mailing recent changed documents, is
there a tool that could do this automagically?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:33:52 -0200, Jerônimo Backes wrote:

 Is there a tool to make these repetitive tasks automatically? I would
 like to have something that just copies the updated (and new) files to
 my external HD, in order to keep both directories' contents in sync  (on
 my laptop: /home/jbackes/documents; on my external
 HD: /mnt/external/backup/documents/) .

rdiff-backup. I've been using it for a couple of years and it does just
what you need. it also keeps old versions so you can roll back in the
event of a mistake.

 And for the activity of packing and mailing recent changed documents, is
 there a tool that could do this automagically?

You could use find to generate a list of files changed n the last two
hours, pass this list to tar - it has an option to accept a list of files
to archive on stdin - and then mail this to your backup account.

There's also a FUSE module to mount your gmail mail account and use it
for file storage, but you won't find it in portage because it breaks
Google's TCs
http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

2006-12-03 Thread Christoph Eckert


 I have a laptop with lots of documents, plus, I am writing lots of
 documents. When I'm working with these files, I stop after every 2 to
 4 hours of work to save the changes, copying the updated files on a
 external hard drive.

http://konserve.sourceforge.net/ and

 I also send them to two e-mail accounts (gmail 
 and yahoo).

rsync come to my mind.

Cheers,

ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Robert Walter

hi
i have 2 favorites
the 1st is app-cdr/dvdshrink. it shrinks the movie and creates a single dvd 
image. burn it with k3b and play it back with any dvd player
the 2nd is media-video/dvdrip. it creates a divx/xvid movie that you can play 
on computers or divx capable dvd players.
best regards robert

On Sunday 03 December 2006 14:28, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD to 
 take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and (if 
 it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
 
 I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an 
 iso 
 image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I 
 came to the conclusion that the combination of 
 K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start 
 trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable 
 economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
 
 So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies 
 when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only 
 some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only they 
 could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:
 
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob
 
 There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent 
 failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that 
 they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I 
 don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you 
 recommend?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gvim slow to start

2006-12-03 Thread Philip Webb

061203 Jorge Almeida wrote:
 My gvim now takes about some 5s to start.
 The no-gui vim from Konsole still is as fast as ever.
 Vim  Gvim were compiled with the bash-completion USE variable,
 so I recompiled gvim without it. No difference.

Delay here   1 s  from Konsole on KDE 3.5.5 .
Emerge details (this is the latest unstable):

  app-editors/gvim-7.0.174  USE=-acl (-aqua) -bash-completion -cscope
  -gnome gpm gtk motif -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -nls perl python -ruby

 It started happening after emerge -NDu world.

'emerge world' is always a bad idea (grin).

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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Grant Edwards

On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
 to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
 (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

 I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
 iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
 topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
 K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
 trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
 economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

 So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
drive.  I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning 
either single or double layer.  [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
Samsung drive.]

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

On Sunday 03 December 2006 18:18, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2006-12-03, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
DVD to take with me on holiday. I'll be playing back the copy on my
laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn
an iso image of the DVD. After two expensive coasters (see other recent
topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work. I could start
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
economic case for persevering with my coaster production. :-(

So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

I had a lot of trouble burning DVDs using a USB connected
drive. I moved the drive internal and connected it directly to
the IDE controller and since have had no problems burning
either single or double layer. [IIRC, it's an vanilla OEM
Samsung drive.]

Thanks for all the suggestions! My Phillips DVD writer is internally mounted.
After about half way instead of flipping over and burning the second layer it
just fails with an input/output error. I've tried my Gentoo OS and a Knoppix
CD just in case it was a matter of OS/application settings, but the same
error occurred.

I noticed that there are at least three DVD rip apps in portage:

media-video/dvdrip
media-video/acidrip
media-plugins/vdr-vdrrip

How do they compare?

Two more Qs:
Running mencoder seems to work in producing a smaller file, but it is a bit
choppy (drops frames). Not sure what the correct options are, this is what I
have used:
=
mencoder vts_01_1.vob -ovc xvid -xvidencopts pass=1 -alang en -oac
mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o movie.avi
=

If I set it to pass=2 it fails with an error about xvid: you must specify one
or a valid combination of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings. The think
is I cannot read what it says fully because the character set in my terminal
gets screwed up:
=
videocodec: XviD (720x576 fourcc=44495658 [XVID])
xvid: par=0/0 (vga11), displayed=1024x576, sampled=720x576
xvid: you must specify one or a valid combination
of 'bitrate', 'pass', 'quantizer' settings
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Any idea how I can fix this?

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[gentoo-user] RAID related boot problems

2006-12-03 Thread Randall Barlow

Howdy, I'm trying a new install (since I hosed my last one) and I 
figured I'd give the RAID+LVM thing a go.  I followed the guide at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml and 
everything seemed to have worked ok, but when I boot I get 3 no-fun (TM) 
lines:


VFS: Cannot open root device md3 or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct root= boot option
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block(0,0)


Now, my relevant grub lines read:

root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/md3

My partition layout is just like the one show in the guide:

/boot - RAID 1 of hda1 and hdc1
swap - hda2 and hdc2
/- RAID 1 of hda3 and hdc3
LVM - RAID 0 of hda4 and hdc5 (I used an extended partition on hdc 
because it it much larger than hda and I wanted to create an hdc6 for 
the additional space)


I am able to boot from the livecd and mount the arrays just fine, so I 
believe it might be a kernel problem.  But I did enable all of the 
necessary kernel options listed in the guide and they are built into the 
kernel (as is ext2/3 which are the only file systems in use).  Any clues?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Stroller



On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to  
another

DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.


If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you  
need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower  
bitrate...


Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same bit- 
rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-encoded  
 he has not decrypted them.


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Stroller



On 3 Dec 2006, at 13:28, Mick wrote:

...
I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to  
burn an iso
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent  
topic) I

came to the conclusion that the combination of
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work


I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it  
handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.


CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it works  
by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored in a special  
part of the DVD's header. This header part of the DVD is not  
writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard that authoring DVD- 
burners which support it cost several thousand pounds), so a  
bitwise copy of a DVD cannot be decrypted (because the key is  
missing).


As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first make a  
copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding removed - onto  
hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD compilation. The result is  
an R0 disk which should play fine in any standard player.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Stroller



On 3 Dec 2006, at 19:03, Stroller wrote:



On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to  
another

DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.


If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you  
need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower  
bitrate...


Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same  
bit-rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region- 
encoded  he has not decrypted them.


Ooops! My apologies.

Having read the previous thread I see that the problem is actually  
1/2way through burning.


Although I'm not clear whether or not Mick has de-regionalised his  
movies, my comments are nevertheless incorrect.


Stroller. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] gvim slow to start


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Philip Webb wrote:


061203 Jorge Almeida wrote:

My gvim now takes about some 5s to start.
The no-gui vim from Konsole still is as fast as ever.
Vim  Gvim were compiled with the bash-completion USE variable,
so I recompiled gvim without it. No difference.


Delay here   1 s  from Konsole on KDE 3.5.5 .
Emerge details (this is the latest unstable):

 app-editors/gvim-7.0.174  USE=-acl (-aqua) -bash-completion -cscope
 -gnome gpm gtk motif -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -nls perl python -ruby

Mine are:
[ebuild   R   ] app-editors/gvim-7.0.17  USE=cscope gpm gtk motif nls python -acl 
(-aqua) -bash-completion -gnome -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -perl -ruby 0 kB

Maybe I'll try unstable. I have the same stable version in another box,
and it doesn't have this problem...



It started happening after emerge -NDu world.


'emerge world' is always a bad idea (grin).


So I've heard, but what's the alternative? I do it frequently, so as to
not let problems build up. I also do revdep-rebuild -p...

I'm not qualified to judge, but reading the forums I get the impression
that maybe there's some design fault with the Gentoo way of upgrading,
regarding the need to keep the toolchain sane...I _think_ this started
after a very minor upgrade of gcc.

Cheers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:03:57 +, Stroller wrote:

 Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same bit- 
 rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-encoded  
  he has not decrypted them.

I thought he was unable to burn DL DVDs, getting an error halfway.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

On Sunday 03 December 2006 19:19, Stroller wrote:
 On 3 Dec 2006, at 19:03, Stroller wrote:
  On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:
  I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to
  another
  DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
  laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
 
  If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you
  need to
  transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower
  bitrate...
 
  Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same
  bit-rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-
  encoded  he has not decrypted them.

 Ooops! My apologies.

 Having read the previous thread I see that the problem is actually
 1/2way through burning.

 Although I'm not clear whether or not Mick has de-regionalised his
 movies, my comments are nevertheless incorrect.

Thanks Stroller, I have not intentionally 'de-regionalised' the movie.  
However, I can: 

 - Play them straight from the DVD drive with mplayer/xine.  

 - Rip an iso of the DVD onto the hard drive, mount it and play any *vob files 
in it with mplayer/xine.  

 - Use mencoder and turn each *.vob file on the hard drive into an *.avi, 
which I can thereafter play.

What I can't do is save the DVD, or its iso onto a DVD+R DL.

On the other hand if the quality loss is not that great and helps me save them 
on single layer (cheaper) re-writable DVDs, I don't mind transcoding them to 
a different lossy format. 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Grant Edwards

On 2006-12-03, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it  
 handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.

I've never used K3B either.  If I want to make an exact
(decrypted, dereionalize) copy, I just do this:

$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/sr0 -o dvds
remove original DVD, replace with blank double-layer
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvds/TITLENAME

 CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it
 works by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored
 in a special part of the DVD's header. This header part of
 the DVD is not writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard
 that authoring DVD- burners which support it cost several
 thousand pounds), so a bitwise copy of a DVD cannot be
 decrypted (because the key is missing).

 As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first
 make a copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding
 removed - onto hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD
 compilation. The result is an R0 disk which should play fine
 in any standard player.

Exactly.  The dvdbackup/growisofs method works fine for making
same-size copies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA

2006-12-03 Thread Daniel Barkalow

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Alan E. Davis wrote:

 I am trying to install a SATA drive from another machine, so I can
 access backups and install them into the current system's filesystem.
 
 lspci gives the following
 moon lngndvs # lspci |grep ATA
  00:16.1 IDE interface: ALi Corporation ULi M5288 SATA
 
 However according to dmesg, nothing is recognized or configured.  I'm
 not sure where to turn next.  Besides compiling support into the
 kernel, what else must me done? I have compiled a kernel with support
 for ULI SATA (SCSI_SATA_ULI).

There are several sets of messages you should be getting. There should be 
one for the driver, one for the controller, and then one for each drive. I 
get:

 libata version 2.00 loaded.
 ata_piix :00:1f.2 version 2.00
 ...
 ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 ...
 ata2: PATA max UDMA/33 ...

If you're getting literally nothing, you didn't get the right options or 
something. If you only get line 1, it's not finding your controller (maybe 
the kernel doesn't have the PCI ID, or you need a slightly different 
driver). If you only get lines 1 and 2, your disk isn't connected 
properly, most likely.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA

2006-12-03 Thread Alan E. Davis


This is the only message I am receiving:

libata version 2.00 loaded.

As far as kernel setup, I am using gentoo sources, 2.6.18 r3.  These
SATA configs:

moonunit linux # grep SATA .config
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_AHCI is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SVW is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_MV is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_QSTOR is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PROMISE is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SX4 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL24 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIS is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_ULI=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VITESSE is not set


Thank you.

Alan

On 12/4/06, Daniel Barkalow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Alan E. Davis wrote:

 I am trying to install a SATA drive from another machine, so I can
 access backups and install them into the current system's filesystem.

 lspci gives the following
 moon lngndvs # lspci |grep ATA
  00:16.1 IDE interface: ALi Corporation ULi M5288 SATA

 However according to dmesg, nothing is recognized or configured.  I'm
 not sure where to turn next.  Besides compiling support into the
 kernel, what else must me done? I have compiled a kernel with support
 for ULI SATA (SCSI_SATA_ULI).

There are several sets of messages you should be getting. There should be
one for the driver, one for the controller, and then one for each drive. I
get:

 libata version 2.00 loaded.
 ata_piix :00:1f.2 version 2.00
 ...
 ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 ...
 ata2: PATA max UDMA/33 ...

If you're getting literally nothing, you didn't get the right options or
something. If you only get line 1, it's not finding your controller (maybe
the kernel doesn't have the PCI ID, or you need a slightly different
driver). If you only get lines 1 and 2, your disk isn't connected
properly, most likely.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Overlay SVN problem

2006-12-03 Thread jak gentoo


On 12/3/06,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

I have a problem, here's the descrition:
I tried to emerge emerald- from the xeffects overlay, but the progress
hang up, so I hit crtl+c an it told me it caught the signal but is still
cleaning up, but after five minutes notting happend so I killed the
processes and now I have a problem.
when  I try the emerge emerald again it tells me:

svn: Working copy '.' locked
svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for
details)

!!! ERROR: x11-wm/emerald- failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_unpack
  ebuild.sh, line 708:   Called src_unpack
  ebuild.sh, line 1255:   Called subversion_src_unpack
  subversion.eclass, line 274:   Called subversion_fetch
  subversion.eclass , line 195:   Called die


I ran svn cleanup on different directories but it seems I didn't get the
right one because the lock is still aktive.
does someone know on which directory I have to run svn ceanup to solve the
locking problem???

thanks

jakommo



Ok found it myself by running emerge in debug mod.
it was svn cleanup /usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src/emerald/emerald/

jakommo

[gentoo-user] Re: amd Athlon 64 x2 install cpu?

2006-12-03 Thread James

Raymond Lewis Rebbeck dystopianray at gmail.com writes:


   Im using the livecd amd64 to install a new AMD ATholon 64 x2 Dual-Core
   based system. I'm at the processor selection and stumped by the lack of
   choices.


 You should be specifying '-march=athlon64'.

 '-athlon64' is not a valid CFLAG, also -sse/2 and -3dnow are all implied 
 by -march=athlon64 and I'm quite sure that -mfpmath=sse is also the default 
 on amd64. It may be useful to specify '-msse3' in the CFLAGS though if your 
 cpu supports SSE3 as no -march setting implies it yet. Although it's unlikely 
 that gcc utilises sse3 properly.

 I recommend the following CFLAGS:
 
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=athlon64 -pipe

 Adding ) if appropriate for your cpu.


OK, I guess, I'll use the minimal CD and the older (handbook) style install.

I was hoping to use the amd64 liveCD, but the (Gig)ethernet is acting funny;
it gets ping replies during the live cd install, but when ping from another
machine, it never answers. It can get to the gateway, with ping replies
as seen on while booted into the livedCD, but no further (yes resolve.conf)
is set up. It answers no pings from other systems...

The mobo, a 'MSI K9A' with an AM2 socket board with dual (Gig)ethernets,
 8 channel surround, PCI-X and setup for the ATI 1900 crossfire dual video
cards. I only have one  ATI 1900 video card installed. 

I've gotta put the install aside, for a few days, to get some other
work finished. Between the hardware and the need to figure out how to 
compile/run code directly on the ATI 1900 video card, I'm sure I'll
be posting again on this project. When I try the install again, I'll post
more about the chipsets and driver issues, if I cannot resolved them
myself.

thx to all for the comments,
James


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Re: [gentoo-user] RAID related boot problems

2006-12-03 Thread Randall Barlow

Thanks to *NeddySeagoon *from Gentoo forums, I've been able to resolve 
my problem.  It turned out not to be RAID related at all: I made and 
mistake in configuring support for my IDE controller!


R

Randall Barlow wrote:
Howdy, I'm trying a new install (since I hosed my last one) and I 
figured I'd give the RAID+LVM thing a go.  I followed the guide at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml and 
everything seemed to have worked ok, but when I boot I get 3 no-fun 
(TM) lines:


VFS: Cannot open root device md3 or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct root= boot option
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block(0,0)


Now, my relevant grub lines read:

root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/md3

My partition layout is just like the one show in the guide:

/boot - RAID 1 of hda1 and hdc1
swap - hda2 and hdc2
/- RAID 1 of hda3 and hdc3
LVM - RAID 0 of hda4 and hdc5 (I used an extended partition on hdc 
because it it much larger than hda and I wanted to create an hdc6 for 
the additional space)


I am able to boot from the livecd and mount the arrays just fine, so I 
believe it might be a kernel problem.  But I did enable all of the 
necessary kernel options listed in the guide and they are built into 
the kernel (as is ext2/3 which are the only file systems in use).  Any 
clues?


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Re: [gentoo-user] gvim slow to start

2006-12-03 Thread Philip Webb

061203 Jorge Almeida wrote:
 On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Philip Webb wrote:
 Emerge details (this is the latest unstable):
  app-editors/gvim-7.0.174  USE=-acl (-aqua) -bash-completion -cscope
  -gnome gpm gtk motif -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -nls perl python -ruby
 Mine are:
 app-editors/gvim-7.0.17  USE=cscope gpm gtk motif nls python -acl (-aqua)
 -bash-completion -gnome -mzscheme -netbeans -nextaw -perl -ruby

So you differ in having cscope nls -perl: could it be one of those ?

 Maybe I'll try unstable.  I have the same stable version in another box,
 and it doesn't have this problem.

Actually, I reverted briefly to 7.17 for another reason yesterday
 there was no difference in start-up time, so that's probably not it.

 'emerge world' is always a bad idea (grin).
 So I've heard, but what's the alternative?  I do it frequently,
 so as to not let problems build up. I also do revdep-rebuild -p.
 reading the forums I get the impression there's some design fault
 with the Gentoo way of upgrading, the need to keep the toolchain sane.

The last should correct itself as you upgrade pkgs.

The problem with 'emerge world' is that it makes assumptions for you,
which is the very opposite of the Gentoo Way (tm).  Once a week,
I do 'eix-sync', which produces a nicely-colored list of pkg changes
hilited to show those I have installed  their version updates.
Then I use 'emerge -Dup world' to see which order to follow
 a parallel version with the deprecated-but-shouldn't-be
'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge', which alerts me to pkgs
I am willing to try in an unstable version (roughly, apps vs system).
Then I make a written list of pkgs which I judge to deserve updating
 do a series of individual emerges.  I keep my own file of installed pkgs.

No, it's not the same to use  /etc/portage  to flag unstable pkgs:
I don't decide to use unstable by pkg-name, but by version
 some week-by-week judgement  choices.

I don't spend  6 hr  updating Open Office from -r1 to -r2
 I never -- never -- encounter unexpected blue-screen effects
after some broken attempt to 'emerge -XyZaBc world' (see list PASSIM).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

2006-12-03 Thread Jerônimo Backes

On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 17:57 +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote:
  I have a laptop with lots of documents, plus, I am writing lots of
  documents. When I'm working with these files, I stop after every 2 to
  4 hours of work to save the changes, copying the updated files on a
  external hard drive.
 
 http://konserve.sourceforge.net/ and


Konserve is great, but it is too overhead to overwrite an entire 2GB
file after intervals of 2 hours. 

 
  I also send them to two e-mail accounts (gmail 
  and yahoo).
 
 rsync come to my mind.
 

That's a little complicated for me to play with at this time (no time to
read the man page), but I think it can solve the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Changing the CHOST variable

2006-12-03 Thread Randy Barlow


Richard Fish wrote:

This means that /usr/bin/as is a broken symlink, since -L is the
dereference option.  But binutils-config should fix that...

...unless glibc is broken in which case nothing will work...

I have a suspicion that changing the ntpl/ntplonly use flags at the
same time as changing CHOST wasn't a good idea. :-(

I have a suspicion that you are right :)

At this point, you probably need to boot from a liveCD and restore
/lib/libc-2.4.so and /lib/libc.so.6 from a backup, or copy them from
the liveCD.
I tried this but it didn't really work.  So I decided to backup and 
reinstall.  Besides, I've been wanting to get that RAID system working 
anyways, and now I seem to have managed that so I am quite happy :)  Now 
on to restoring the system...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

2006-12-03 Thread Christoph Eckert

 That's a little complicated for me to play with at this time (no time
 to read the man page), but I think it can solve the problem.

I feel your pain, but anyway, it looks that you need to write a small 
shell script which does what you want. If you're using KDE, it's even 
possible to use DCOP so KMail automatically sends a mail with an 
attachement. But 2GB? Huh... :) .

Cheers,

ce

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[gentoo-user] Floppy Disk Light

2006-12-03 Thread Randy Barlow

Not a big problem, but I just did a new install and my floppy disk's 
light seems to always be on.  This is weird.  Any ideas why?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

2006-12-03 Thread Jerônimo Backes

  But 2GB? Huh... :) .

2Gb is the entire documents directory. I just want to e-mail the altered
ones (in fact, the total attachment size is no greater than 200 Kb)

I'll see what Kmail can do. Thanks again.

Jerônimo.





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Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy Disk Light

2006-12-03 Thread Dale

Randy Barlow wrote:
 Not a big problem, but I just did a new install and my floppy disk's
 light seems to always be on.  This is weird.  Any ideas why?

 R

Check to make sure the drive data cable is plugged in correctly.  I
think this is what it does when it is backwards.  How do I know, I had a
bunch of drives that are not marked or have the slot so that it would
only plug one way.  Pin 1 on one side one time and on the other the
next.  Just have to try it and hope it don't smoke.  LOL

Hope that helps.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] Update from User Relations wrt User Representatives.

2006-12-03 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer

As of Friday 17th November, George Prowse, known to most as cokehabit,
has left the Gentoo User Relations project and his position as User
Representative. Regrettably, as things turned out, he did not fit the
role as well as many had hoped, and it was decided that it would be in
everyone's best interests to part ways. We would like to thank George
for his time and work as a user representative, and wish him luck in his
future endeavours.

On a related note, it was resolved at a meeting between User Relations and 
the User Representatives on December 2nd, 2006 to instate Alex Bokag aka 
djay-il as the eleventh and last User Representative. This motion passed 
unanimously and Alex accepted the position with immediate effect. 
We welcome Alex onboard and look forward to working closely with him over the 
next year.

On behalf of User Relations, 
Christel Dahlskjaer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy Disk Light

2006-12-03 Thread Randy Barlow


Dale wrote:

Check to make sure the drive data cable is plugged in correctly. I
think this is what it does when it is backwards.  How do I know, I had a
bunch of drives that are not marked or have the slot so that it would
only plug one way.  Pin 1 on one side one time and on the other the
next.  Just have to try it and hope it don't smoke.  LOL
  
Well I haven't ever unplugged or messed with the disk drive.  Heck, I 
don't think I've even ever used it...  All's I did was reinstall...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?


On 03/12/06, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2006-12-03, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it
 handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.

I've never used K3B either.  If I want to make an exact
(decrypted, dereionalize) copy, I just do this:

$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/sr0 -o dvds
remove original DVD, replace with blank double-layer
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvds/TITLENAME

 CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it
 works by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored
 in a special part of the DVD's header. This header part of
 the DVD is not writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard
 that authoring DVD- burners which support it cost several
 thousand pounds), so a bitwise copy of a DVD cannot be
 decrypted (because the key is missing).

 As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first
 make a copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding
 removed - onto hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD
 compilation. The result is an R0 disk which should play fine
 in any standard player.

Exactly.  The dvdbackup/growisofs method works fine for making
same-size copies.


This is getting me down: sigh . . .
=
$ dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o dvds
$ growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvds/PIRATESOFTHECARIBBEAN
Executing 'mkisofs -dvd-video dvds/PIRATESOFTHECARIBBEAN | builtin_dd
of=/dev/dvd obs=32k seek=0'
 0.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
 0.29% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
 0.43% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 21:55:10 2006
/dev/dvd: splitting layers at 175 blocks
/dev/dvd: Current Write Speed is 2.5x1385KBps.
 0.57% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:27:14 2006
 0.71% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:27:48 2006
 0.86% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:28:12 2006
 1.00% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:30:09 2006
 1.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:30:09 2006
[snip...]

49.86% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:08 2006
50.00% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:07 2006
50.14% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:07 2006
50.29% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:11 2006
50.43% done, estimate finish Sun Dec  3 22:32:10 2006
:-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error
=

This must be the third wasted DL DVD.  I think that I will need to
concentrate on transcoding the darn thing from now on.  I wish I could
pin point the problem.  When I tried playing the DVD in M$Windows it
complained about the region not being set - but I didn't have any such
problem in Linux.  Nero express won't even see the DL disk, just shows
the size of CD.  Could it be something to do with the firmware?
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Re: [gentoo-user] gvim slow to start


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006, Philip Webb wrote:


So you differ in having cscope nls -perl: could it be one of those ?


Don't think so, they were there before. The -perl is the only
difference from my other box (the one without the gvim problem).

'emerge world' is always a bad idea (grin).

So I've heard, but what's the alternative?  I do it frequently,
so as to not let problems build up. I also do revdep-rebuild -p.
reading the forums I get the impression there's some design fault
with the Gentoo way of upgrading, the need to keep the toolchain sane.


The last should correct itself as you upgrade pkgs.

The problem with 'emerge world' is that it makes assumptions for you,
which is the very opposite of the Gentoo Way (tm).  Once a week,
I do 'eix-sync', which produces a nicely-colored list of pkg changes
hilited to show those I have installed  their version updates.

Thanks for the tip.




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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging nis-utils

2006-12-03 Thread Richard Fish


On 12/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I should have read the email before i sent it. Sorry.
I am installing nis on my network of gentoo machines.  During the
compilation step I keep having the error in the original message.  I
performed a find / -name mp.h on my system and couldn't find it.  If you
need it, i can supply the call stack.


What version of nis-utils are you merging?  Also, what version of
dev-libs/gmp do you have installed?  Perhaps this bug may give you an
idea:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135102#c10

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA

2006-12-03 Thread Richard Fish


On 12/3/06, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As far as kernel setup, I am using gentoo sources, 2.6.18 r3.  These
SATA configs:


Did you also remember SCSI disk (CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD) support?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?

2006-12-03 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

Use a cron job to run it periodically.  For email, use a cron job that emails 
it.

On Sunday 03 December 2006 16:18, Jerônimo Backes wrote:
  rdiff-backup. I've been using it for a couple of years and it does just
  what you need. it also keeps old versions so you can roll back in the
  event of a mistake.

 Man, that's almost what I need. Is there a way to make this script
 execute automatically after some time interval?

   And for the activity of packing and mailing recent changed documents,
   is there a tool that could do this automagically?
 
  You could use find to generate a list of files changed n the last two
  hours, pass this list to tar - it has an option to accept a list of files
  to archive on stdin - and then mail this to your backup account.

 Ok, I can make a script doing that. But what can I use to send the file
 to my e-mail adresses? And what to do to make that script run
 periodically?

 Thanks a lot for your help.
 Jerônimo.



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