date:20061224

Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:48:38 -0600, Dale wrote:

   
 OK.  I downloaded Kdar so far.  It was smaller and I'm on dial-up.  Does
 these programs preserve file permissions?
 

 Yes, because the files are stored in an archive file, not directly on the
 CD. dar can split the archives into CD (or DVD) sized chunks and kdar can
 (AFAIR) write them to disc. dar also creates an index of what's in which
 file and writes this to the first and last backup files.

   

May need a little more info on this archive part.  If I use this to back
up my whole system and then lets say the hard drive fails completely.  I
can just untar or unzip to restore the system right?  I have some data
to back up but I may use this to do a system back-up too.

While I am at it, if I do a system back up, do I need to worry about
backing up /proc and /sys?  From my understanding the kernel generates
these when it boots up.  Just curious about what I really need to back
up.  Oh, what about /dev too.  I use udev and have the tarball set to no. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] How to see Windows graphics chars

2006-12-24 Thread Jesús Guerrero

El Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:28:05 -0800
Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 I would not ordinarily care about Windows pseudo-graphics characters,
 but for one brief moment on one project I need to manipulate them a
 bit.  This is a bit hard on KDE and gentoo as things stand because
 the terminals don't know about that encoding/font/codepage/whatever.
 
 I see there's a way to make my terminals speak a variety of
 encodings, but the ones I've tried don't help.  Anybody out there
 know how to do this?
 
 ++ kevin
 

If you are talking about the webdings set, it is included along with
many other MS fonts into the corefonts package. Make sure you have it
installed, then make sure you have a line for that font dir in your
xorg.conf:

Section Files
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hunkyfonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/sharefonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/arphicfonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk-fonts
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kochi-substitute
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/intlfonts
EndSection

Then restart X or do this:

xset +fp /usr/share/fonts/corefonts  xset fp rehash

Now the font is installed and  apps can see it, it might depend on each
concrete app how to use it from now on.

Jesús Guerrero

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[gentoo-user] Batch resizing of photos

Hi All,

I have a load of photos which I would like to resize running some sort of 
ImageMagick batch command; e.g. 

convert -resize WxH something.jpeg something_resized.jpeg

In this case something is meant to be the photos in a directory.  How do I 
do this? (me useless at scripting).  :(

Merry Christmas to you All and Your dearest and nearest!  :)
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[gentoo-user] LVM problem

2006-12-24 Thread Jorge Almeida


I'm about to start using LVM. I setup a secondary partition with fdisk,
created a physical volume with pvcreate, made a group volume with
vgcreate (out of only that physical volume), created several logical
volumes with lvcreate, and installed filesystems on the logical volumes.
One volume is swap, and /proc/meminfo says it is active. Other volumes I
can mount and write onto.
So, what's the problem? The problem is that vgdisplay, vgscan, vgchange,
pvdisplay, lvdisplay all say there are no volumes to be found!
What did I miss?

One other thing i don't understand is what to do regarding init scripts.

(The kernel gentoo-sources 2.6.18-r2 has build-in support for Multiple devices 
driver support
(RAID and LVM) and Device mapper support. )

TIA.
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Re: [gentoo-user] working with overlays

2006-12-24 Thread Benno Schulenberg

Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:09:55 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
  mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/category/package
  ## Dont't copy all ebuilds, just the one to be tweaked:

 Unless you are really short of disk space, what's wrong with
 copying the complete package directory - it makes life much
 simpler.

There's nothing wrong with it, but it makes life harder: now I must 
remember which of the ebuilds in /usr/local/portage/*/* I have 
patched and which not.  It's much easier to have only ebuilds in 
there that I've actually changed.

 If you just want to add a patch, you can do it with bashrc, no
 need to mess with overlays:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-339019.html

(Or http://dev.gentoo.org/~solar/portage_misc/bashrc.autopatch for 
the original.)

Well, yes, that is one way.  But mostly I do not want things to be 
autopatched: I just want to change this one version and not any 
newer one.  And I do not want to have to remember to remove 
/usr/portage/local/patches/category/package afterwards; patch, 
emerge and forget is easier.

Also, when using overlays 'emerge -pev world' will immediately show 
which packages have been patched (because coming from my overlay).  
When autopatching, one has to check /usr/portage/local/patches/ 
separately.

 There's a script floating around that will copy an ebuild to your
 overlay and bump its version.

Found it here:  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=445501
Since this script is a bit too verbose for my taste, I've continued 
working on my own.  Using the post_src_unpack() function mentioned 
by Bo, the inserting of patches becomes pretty easy.  See the 
attached file.  Suggestions and improvements are welcome.

 But neither of these are related to the original
 question, which was about preserving old versions.

Yes, sorry for changing focus; I was reacting to this:

   Overlays are there specifically for people who need
   something different from the standard portage tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Batch resizing of photos

On Sunday 24 December 2006 12:43, Mick wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have a load of photos which I would like to resize running some sort
 of ImageMagick batch command; e.g.

 convert -resize WxH something.jpeg something_resized.jpeg

 In this case something is meant to be the photos in a directory. 
 How do I do this? (me useless at scripting).  :(

You can use a for loop, with a little trickery to modify the name, eg 
(untested)

for i in *.jpeg; do
  name=${i%.jpeg}
  convert -resize WxH ${i} ${name}_resized.jpeg
done

if you don't want to keep the original images, then it's simpler:

for i in *.jpeg; do
  convert -resize WxH ${i} ${i}.resized
  mv ${i}.resized ${i} # caution: overwrites original file
done
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:53, Dale wrote:

 Speaking of booting, it would be nice if the first CD was bootable and
 could be restored that way.  I only have one CD drive at the moment so
 something to boot from would be nice.

Yes, that can be done. Mondorescue makes the first backup CD bootable, 
using a mini kernel and distro called mindi.
You can even restore an entire system from scratch, using the barebones 
(nuke) restore. Read the docs for more info.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconfigured system

On Friday 22 December 2006 12:20, David Relson wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:45:07 -0800
 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

 ...[snip]...

  Oops.  I should have known I could answer my own question with a
  little more digging.  I now see that there's
  hostname
  hostname --fqdn
  dnsdomainname
  and they all work by looking in /etc/host.conf, and if (as is true
  here) that says
  to use the hosts file first, it looks for it in /etc/hosts, which has
  the fqdn. I seem to dimly recall that it actually looks for the first
  non-comment, but that
  cannot be quite right, because localhost comes first in my copy.
  Maybe it's the first
  routable IP number?
 
  I think this sub-problem is solved.  I've commented my config files a
  bit more, so I
  won't make the same mistake again.
 
  ++ kevin

 Now, I'm curious!  On my system, I see the following:

   dnsdomainname osagesoftware.com
   hostname  osage.osagesoftware.com
   hostname --fqdn   osage.osagesoftware.com

 /etc/hosts contains:

   192.168.1.10 osage.osagesoftware.com osage

 strace -feopen shows that /etc/hosts is opened by hostname --fqdn
 but not hostname.

 What have I got wrong?

 Regards,

 David

 P.S.  Greetings from one Kiewit alumni to another ...

I discovered that the order of entries on the localhost line is important to 
avoid hostname being identified as none.  I suppose in your system it 
should be:

127.0.0.1 osage.osagesoftware.com osage localhost

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

2006-12-24 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 04:07:50 -0600, Dale wrote:

  Yes, because the files are stored in an archive file, not directly on
  the CD. dar can split the archives into CD (or DVD) sized chunks and
  kdar can (AFAIR) write them to disc. dar also creates an index of
  what's in which file and writes this to the first and last backup
  files.

 May need a little more info on this archive part.  If I use this to back
 up my whole system and then lets say the hard drive fails completely.  I
 can just untar or unzip to restore the system right?  I have some data
 to back up but I may use this to do a system back-up too.

dar uses its own archive format, so you'll need a live disc with the dar
executable to unpack them. I think there's a statically compiled version
of dar available that you can chuck on your backup discs.

 While I am at it, if I do a system back up, do I need to worry about
 backing up /proc and /sys?  From my understanding the kernel generates
 these when it boots up.  Just curious about what I really need to back
 up.  Oh, what about /dev too.  I use udev and have the tarball set to
 no. 

All three are virtual filesystems, so you should not attempt to back them
up. I prefer to use the --one-filesystem option when backing up with tar,
dar has a similar option AFAIR.


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[gentoo-user] Re: LVM problem

2006-12-24 Thread Regis Decamps


Jorge Almeida wrote:

I'm about to start using LVM.


LVM-user or LVM2?


So, what's the problem? The problem is that vgdisplay, vgscan, vgchange,
pvdisplay, lvdisplay all say there are no volumes to be found!
What did I miss?


Have you modified lvm.conf?

Can you provide /etc/lvm/.cache?


One other thing i don't understand is what to do regarding init scripts.


The gentoo init script already manages lvm.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM problem

2006-12-24 Thread Jorge Almeida


On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Regis Decamps wrote:


Jorge Almeida wrote:

 I'm about to start using LVM.


LVM-user or LVM2?

LVM2. (Don't know about the former...)



 So, what's the problem? The problem is that vgdisplay, vgscan, vgchange,
 pvdisplay, lvdisplay all say there are no volumes to be found!
 What did I miss?


Have you modified lvm.conf?

Yes, I changed the filter line:
filter = [ a|/dev/hdb]|, r/.*/ ]
And, of course, this is the problem! I copied the line in
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml, but since I have a physical
volume only at /dev/hdb5, I deleted the '[a' and forgot about the
closing ']'! Things are working now.


Can you provide /etc/lvm/.cache?

Here it goes, although I suppose it's not needed any more:
persistent_filter_cache {
valid_devices=[
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP0802N_S00JJ30X191824-part2,
/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:1f.1-ide-0:1-part1,
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP0802N_S00JJ30X191824-part3,
/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:1f.1-ide-0:1-part3,
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP0802N_S00JJ30X191824-part1,
/dev/hdb6,
/dev/disk/by-uuid/203d7cab-0dd9-4a52-a376-02ee721de134,
/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:1f.1-ide-0:1-part2,
/dev/disk/by-uuid/d6d0a50f-16dc-4425-9047-66758c5b13d9,
/dev/hdb5,
/dev/disk/by-uuid/3a5288ad-f1a4-4370-a5ed-6058467de4e8,
/dev/disk/by-uuid/38415f62-cea0-4c2a-aee2-567932993d2d,
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP0802N_S00JJ30X191824-part6,
/dev/hdb1,
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SP0802N_S00JJ30X191824-part5,
/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:1f.1-ide-0:1-part5,
/dev/hdb2,
/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:00:1f.1-ide-0:1-part6,
/dev/hdb3
]
}




 One other thing i don't understand is what to do regarding init scripts.


The gentoo init script already manages lvm.


Could you elaborate on this? What init script? Something in /etc/init.d?
Something to be managed by rc-update?



Thanks. (Great list, where you can get help on XMAS eve!)
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Re: [gentoo-user] desperation question: disklabel, unable to write to disk, etc.

2006-12-24 Thread Alan E. Davis


It's looking really bad.  However, I have seen some messages about similar
messages/problems being addressed by flashing the bios.  I have received a
diagnostic utility from Gateway.  This is a laptop.

Thank you for the advice.  I'll keep trying.

Merry Christmas (in an hour, here in the W. Pacific),

Alan

On 12/24/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:22:02 +, Alan E. Davis wrote:

 Neither of these worked:

 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
 dd: writing `/dev/hda': Input/output error
 1+0 records in
 0+0 records out
 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 3.96744 seconds, 0.0 kB/s

 gparted shows the whole disk as unallocated.  When I try to install a
 new partition, it wants to install a disklabel.  The attempt fails.

It looks like a dead disk to me :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] desperation question: disklabel, unable to write to disk, etc.

On Sunday 24 December 2006 08:42, PaulNM wrote:
 Hi,

 These type of messages:

 [17180157.02] hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete
 Error }
 [17180157.02] hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError },
 LBAsect=5, high=0, low=5, sector=0
 [17180157.02] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
 [17180157.02] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 0


 are very bad signs.  Nine times out of ten it means the drive is dead,
 or nearly so.  The few times it's not a dead/dying drive, is usually due
 to dma not being supported, or a bad cable. Given that dd is not
 working, and nothing seems able to actually write to the drive, I'm
 leaning towards a dead drive.

   As a last ditch attempt, you could try reseating the power and ide
 cable on the drive, as well as the motherboard end of the ide cable. If
 you have another system laying around, you could put the problem drive
 in there to confirm it is a drive problem.

I agree that in all likelihood your HD is toast.  However, before you start 
searching on Ebay you would better follow the above advice to reseat cables 
and, or sockets.  I used to have an IBM laptop with a problematic floppy 
drive that needed reseating in its socket every now and then to cure its boot 
problems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:53, Dale wrote:

   
 Speaking of booting, it would be nice if the first CD was bootable and
 could be restored that way.  I only have one CD drive at the moment so
 something to boot from would be nice.
 

 Yes, that can be done. Mondorescue makes the first backup CD bootable, 
 using a mini kernel and distro called mindi.
 You can even restore an entire system from scratch, using the barebones 
 (nuke) restore. Read the docs for more info.
   

Kewwwl.  I like that idea.  This sort of reminds me of what I used
back in the Mac Classic and Mac II days.  Old huh?

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 04:07:50 -0600, Dale wrote:

   
 Yes, because the files are stored in an archive file, not directly on
 the CD. dar can split the archives into CD (or DVD) sized chunks and
 kdar can (AFAIR) write them to disc. dar also creates an index of
 what's in which file and writes this to the first and last backup
 files.
   

   
 May need a little more info on this archive part.  If I use this to back
 up my whole system and then lets say the hard drive fails completely.  I
 can just untar or unzip to restore the system right?  I have some data
 to back up but I may use this to do a system back-up too.
 

 dar uses its own archive format, so you'll need a live disc with the dar
 executable to unpack them. I think there's a statically compiled version
 of dar available that you can chuck on your backup discs.
   

Hmmm, does the Gentoo CD have this?
   
 While I am at it, if I do a system back up, do I need to worry about
 backing up /proc and /sys?  From my understanding the kernel generates
 these when it boots up.  Just curious about what I really need to back
 up.  Oh, what about /dev too.  I use udev and have the tarball set to
 no. 
 

 All three are virtual filesystems, so you should not attempt to back them
 up. I prefer to use the --one-filesystem option when backing up with tar,
 dar has a similar option AFAIR.


   

OK, so skip /proc, /sys and /dev then?  I need to do some reading I
guess, if it ever gets it downloaded that is.  This slow dial-up sucks.  :-(

Thanks for the info.  One of these days I'll actually know something.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Follow-up on the HDD problems...

On Saturday 23 December 2006 10:23, Chris Walters wrote:
 Some of you may remember the problem I was having with my SATA II HDD in
 Windows XP (but not in Linux).  To recap:  My drive got switched from
 UDMA mode to PIO mode in Windows (only).  I ended up having to reinstall
 Windows.

 After some careful investigation, I found that the problem was caused by
 the copy protection of a game - Superpower 2.  Worse, the problem was
 not corrected when I removed the game.  It took either a full reinstall
 of the OS, or a restoration of the windows registry from before I
 installed the game to fix this problem.

 I know that this will not affect dedicated Linux users, but it can
 affect those of you who use both windows and Linux.

I've never heard of such a case before!  I can't even begin to understand why 
copy protection will screw up an OS' settings.  Have you complained to the 
game's suppliers?  Following Sony's screw-up with their copy protection 
trojan it may be time to start asking for compensation from all game coders 
out there who take liberties with your OS (even if half the problem may well 
lie with the particular OS?).

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[gentoo-user] emerge --resume

Hi, guys!

#emerge --resume gives me:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

!!! Error: The resume list contains packages that are no longer
!!!available to be emerged. Please restart/continue
!!!the merge operation manually.
#


How could I fix it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

On Sunday 24 December 2006 13:12, Dale wrote:


 OK, so skip /proc, /sys and /dev then?  I need to do some reading I
 guess, if it ever gets it downloaded that is.  This slow dial-up sucks. 
 :-(

For complete partition/disk/OS backups I have used partimage.  No doubt it 
comes with many recovery LiveCDs, but I have only used it with Knoppix.  As 
the package name implies it creates image files.  You'll need a swap 
partition activated though, otherwise you may run out of memory when you are 
burning the DVD/CD with your images.  Partimage has compression options to 
reduce the size of the backed up image file and you can define the size at 
which you want to image files split so as to fit on a number of CDs or DVDs.

If you want to access particular files/directories within the image file I 
guess you will need to mount it using loopback, but I haven't tried that yet.

HTH.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:53, Dale wrote:

   
 Speaking of booting, it would be nice if the first CD was bootable and
 could be restored that way.  I only have one CD drive at the moment so
 something to boot from would be nice.
 

 Yes, that can be done. Mondorescue makes the first backup CD bootable, 
 using a mini kernel and distro called mindi.
 You can even restore an entire system from scratch, using the barebones 
 (nuke) restore. Read the docs for more info.
   

Well, this sucks.

  Downloading 'http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz'
 --07:14:12--  http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz
= `/usr/portage/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz'
 Resolving adelie.polymtl.ca... 132.207.4.160
 Connecting to adelie.polymtl.ca|132.207.4.160|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
 Length: 2,130,907 (2.0M), 1,026,811 (1003K) remaining [application/x-gzip]

 100%[+]
 2,130,907  2.71K/sETA 00:00

 07:20:29 (2.67 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz' saved
 [2130907/2130907]

  * checking ebuild checksums ;-)
 ...   [ ok ]
  * checking auxfile checksums ;-)
 ...  [ ok ]
  * checking miscfile checksums ;-)
 ... [ ok ]
  * checking mindi-1.10.tgz ;-)
 ... [ !! ]

 !!! A file listed in the Manifest could not be found:
 '/usr/portage/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Seems there may be a reason it is masked.  I restarted it to see if it
was a connection boo boo but it ain't looking good right now.  May have
to try a older version maybe.

Notice that super fast data transfer speed of 2.71K/s.  Swift huh? 
Stupid dial-up.

What cha think about this?

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:53, Dale wrote:

   
 Speaking of booting, it would be nice if the first CD was bootable and
 could be restored that way.  I only have one CD drive at the moment so
 something to boot from would be nice.
 

 Yes, that can be done. Mondorescue makes the first backup CD bootable, 
 using a mini kernel and distro called mindi.
 You can even restore an entire system from scratch, using the barebones 
 (nuke) restore. Read the docs for more info.
   

Well, this sucks.

  Downloading 'http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz'
 --07:14:12--  http://adelie.polymtl.ca/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz
= `/usr/portage/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz'
 Resolving adelie.polymtl.ca... 132.207.4.160
 Connecting to adelie.polymtl.ca|132.207.4.160|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
 Length: 2,130,907 (2.0M), 1,026,811 (1003K) remaining [application/x-gzip]

 100%[+]
 2,130,907  2.71K/sETA 00:00

 07:20:29 (2.67 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz' saved
 [2130907/2130907]

  * checking ebuild checksums ;-)
 ...   [ ok ]
  * checking auxfile checksums ;-)
 ...  [ ok ]
  * checking miscfile checksums ;-)
 ... [ ok ]
  * checking mindi-1.10.tgz ;-)
 ... [ !! ]

 !!! A file listed in the Manifest could not be found:
 '/usr/portage/distfiles/mindi-1.10.tgz'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Seems there may be a reason it is masked.  I restarted it to see if it
was a connection boo boo but it ain't looking good right now.  May have
to try a older version maybe.

Notice that super fast data transfer speed of 2.71K/s.  Swift huh? 
Stupid dial-up.

What cha think about this?  Well, the email didn't go so I can say that
it failed again so I unmasked mindi-1-11 and will see if it works
better.  Will report later, unless someone has a better idea.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 13:12, Dale wrote:

   
 OK, so skip /proc, /sys and /dev then?  I need to do some reading I
 guess, if it ever gets it downloaded that is.  This slow dial-up sucks. 
 :-(
 

 For complete partition/disk/OS backups I have used partimage.  No doubt it 
 comes with many recovery LiveCDs, but I have only used it with Knoppix.  As 
 the package name implies it creates image files.  You'll need a swap 
 partition activated though, otherwise you may run out of memory when you are 
 burning the DVD/CD with your images.  Partimage has compression options to 
 reduce the size of the backed up image file and you can define the size at 
 which you want to image files split so as to fit on a number of CDs or DVDs.

 If you want to access particular files/directories within the image file I 
 guess you will need to mount it using loopback, but I haven't tried that yet.

 HTH.
   

Another one to consider.  Will look into it too.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Batch resizing of photos

On Sunday 24 December 2006 12:25, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 for i in *.jpeg; do
   name=${i%.jpeg}
   convert -resize WxH ${i} ${name}_resized.jpeg
 done

Thank you for a lovely Christmas present!  :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconfigured system

2006-12-24 Thread David Relson

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:09:13 +
Mick wrote:

...[snip]...
  Now, I'm curious!  On my system, I see the following:
 
dnsdomainname osagesoftware.com
hostname  osage.osagesoftware.com
hostname --fqdn   osage.osagesoftware.com
 
  /etc/hosts contains:
 
192.168.1.10 osage.osagesoftware.com osage
 
  strace -feopen shows that /etc/hosts is opened by hostname
  --fqdn but not hostname.
 
  What have I got wrong?
 
  Regards,
 
  David
 
  P.S.  Greetings from one Kiewit alumni to another ...
 
 I discovered that the order of entries on the localhost line is
 important to avoid hostname being identified as none.  I suppose in
 your system it should be:
 
 127.0.0.1 osage.osagesoftware.com osage localhost

Curiouser and curiouser...

Using your suggested line as the complete content of my /etc/hosts file
has _no_ effect at all.

As an experiment, I tried modifying /etc/conf.d/hostname to have just
a test name, i.e. osagexxx, and restarting /etc/init.d/hostname. My
system was not at all happy with that. 
 
### hostname ; hostname -s ; hostname --fqdn ; dnsdomainname 

osagexxx
hostname: Unknown host
hostname: Unknown host
dnsdomainname: Unknown host

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Follow-up on the HDD problems...

Mick wrote:
On Saturday 23 December 2006 10:23, Chris Walters wrote:

Some of you may remember the problem I was having with my SATA II HDD in
Windows XP (but not in Linux). To recap: My drive got switched from
UDMA mode to PIO mode in Windows (only). I ended up having to reinstall
Windows.

After some careful investigation, I found that the problem was caused by
the copy protection of a game - Superpower 2. Worse, the problem was
not corrected when I removed the game. It took either a full reinstall
of the OS, or a restoration of the windows registry from before I
installed the game to fix this problem.

I know that this will not affect dedicated Linux users, but it can
affect those of you who use both windows and Linux.

I've never heard of such a case before! I can't even begin to understand why
copy protection will screw up an OS' settings. Have you complained to the
game's suppliers? Following Sony's screw-up with their copy protection
trojan it may be time to start asking for compensation from all game coders
out there who take liberties with your OS (even if half the problem may well
lie with the particular OS?).

Actually I've read about such cases before:

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2005/10/31/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights-management-gone-too-far.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Russinovich

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Sony_faces_class_action_lawsuits_for_DRM

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --resume

2006-12-24 Thread Stuart Howard


On 24/12/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, guys!

#emerge --resume gives me:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

!!! Error: The resume list contains packages that are no longer
!!!available to be emerged. Please restart/continue
!!!the merge operation manually.
#


How could I fix it?

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Are you doing a large emerge? eg. --emptytree
or have you not --sync lately
or has this emerge been running fora  long... time and prehaps
something has dropped out of the tree in that time?
A bit more information on what you are actually doing may get you a
better response than mine.

Prehaps one of those may explain the issue but for now trying
emerge --resume --skipfirst
may help the situation and get you to the end of the process then you
can go back and discover the offending package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Dale wrote:
 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 04:53, Dale wrote:

   
 Speaking of booting, it would be nice if the first CD was bootable and
 could be restored that way.  I only have one CD drive at the moment so
 something to boot from would be nice.
 

 Yes, that can be done. Mondorescue makes the first backup CD bootable, 
 using a mini kernel and distro called mindi.
 You can even restore an entire system from scratch, using the barebones 
 (nuke) restore. Read the docs for more info.
   

  snip 


OK.  Now I get this for mindi-1.11.  One version has something missing
and the other fails to compile.  Wonder why this is masked?


 make[3]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/mindi-1.11/work/mindi-1.11/mondo/common'
 if /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../..   -D__IA32__  -march=athlon-xp -O2
 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident -pipe -MT libmondo-archive.lo -MD
 -MP -MF .deps/libmondo-archive.Tpo \
   -c -o libmondo-archive.lo `test -f 'libmondo-archive.c' ||
 echo './'`libmondo-archive.c; \
 then mv -f .deps/libmondo-archive.Tpo
 .deps/libmondo-archive.Plo; \
 else rm -f .deps/libmondo-archive.Tpo; exit 1; \
 fi
 if /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../..   -D__IA32__  -march=athlon-xp -O2
 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -fno-ident -pipe -MT libmondo-devices.lo -MD
 -MP -MF .deps/libmondo-devices.Tpo \
   -c -o libmondo-devices.lo `test -f 'libmondo-devices.c' ||
 echo './'`libmondo-devices.c; \
 then mv -f .deps/libmondo-devices.Tpo
 .deps/libmondo-devices.Plo; \
 else rm -f .deps/libmondo-devices.Tpo; exit 1; \
 fi
 In file included from libmondo-devices.c:223:
 my-stuff.h:201:18: error: newt.h: No such file or directory
 make[3]: *** [libmondo-devices.lo] Error 1
 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 In file included from libmondo-archive.c:175:
 ../common/my-stuff.h:201:18: error: newt.h: No such file or directory
 make[3]: *** [libmondo-archive.lo] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/mindi-1.11/work/mindi-1.11/mondo/common'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/mindi-1.11/work/mindi-1.11/mondo'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/mindi-1.11/work/mindi-1.11'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

 !!! ERROR: sys-apps/mindi-1.11 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 937:   Called src_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 608:   Called die

 !!! emake failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
 stack if relevant.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # 

Anybody know what newt.h is?  Looks like it needs it for something.

Thanks

Dale

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[gentoo-user] lvm setup questions

2006-12-24 Thread Martins

hi

i'm trying setup lvm on running system using latest lvm2. lvm and kernel part 
seems ok but rest is problem,after reboot vg and lv are borked. For now im 
playing with junk partitions. 
Do I need put lvm-start(stop).sh in /etc/conf.d/local.start(stop) or somehow 
pass to grub initrd line? I dont plan put /boot and / on lvm 
but /opt /home /var /usr /usr/portage

And i cant figure out where lvm puts all data besides /etc/lvm. I have 
problems to clean mess i have so far ;)

thanx for your input and Merry Christmas 

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:33, Dale wrote:

 OK.  Now I get this for mindi-1.11.  One version has something missing
 and the other fails to compile.  Wonder why this is masked?
[cut]

Are you trying to install mindi by itself or as part of an emerge 
mondo-rescue? Seems like some dependency is missing...

 Anybody know what newt.h is?  Looks like it needs it for something.

* dev-libs/newt
 Available versions:  0.50.35-r2 ~0.50.35-r3 ~0.50.35-r4 0.51.6 
0.51.6-r1 ~0.51.6-r2 ~0.52.2
 Homepage:http://www.redhat.com/
 Description: Redhat's Newt windowing toolkit development 
files

mondo-rescue does depend upon newt, but mindi doesn't (I'd say that's 
probably a bug, but otoh I think mindi alone is rather useless).
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

2006-12-24 Thread Uwe Thiem

On 24 December 2006 15:12, Dale wrote:

 OK, so skip /proc, /sys and /dev then?  I need to do some reading I
 guess, if it ever gets it downloaded that is.  

Yes, you can skip them. /tmp as well, but you have to create the empty 
directory after restoration. Same for /dev. I am nott too sure about /sys 
and /proc - at least, it doesn't hurt to create them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:33, Dale wrote:

   
 OK.  Now I get this for mindi-1.11.  One version has something missing
 and the other fails to compile.  Wonder why this is masked?
 [cut]
 

 Are you trying to install mindi by itself or as part of an emerge 
 mondo-rescue? Seems like some dependency is missing...

   
 Anybody know what newt.h is?  Looks like it needs it for something.
 

 * dev-libs/newt
  Available versions:  0.50.35-r2 ~0.50.35-r3 ~0.50.35-r4 0.51.6 
 0.51.6-r1 ~0.51.6-r2 ~0.52.2
  Homepage:http://www.redhat.com/
  Description: Redhat's Newt windowing toolkit development 
 files

 mondo-rescue does depend upon newt, but mindi doesn't (I'd say that's 
 probably a bug, but otoh I think mindi alone is rather useless).
   

Here's the funny part.  I figured out that that file is in the package
newt, who would have thunk that.  LOL  Anyway, I emerge -1 it then when
I tell it to start emerging mondorescue again, it skips the package
mindi completely.

Since I have no clue what this may break, I went back and emerge -1
mindi just in case.  It worked this time, since newt was there.  May be
a bug too.  Now back to mondorescue.

Anyway, here I go again.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

2006-12-24 Thread David Relson

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:02:24 -0600
Dale wrote:

 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
  On Sunday 24 December 2006 15:33, Dale wrote:
 

  OK.  Now I get this for mindi-1.11.  One version has something
  missing and the other fails to compile.  Wonder why this is masked?
  [cut]
  
 
  Are you trying to install mindi by itself or as part of an emerge 
  mondo-rescue? Seems like some dependency is missing...
 

  Anybody know what newt.h is?  Looks like it needs it for something.
  
 
  * dev-libs/newt
   Available versions:  0.50.35-r2 ~0.50.35-r3 ~0.50.35-r4 0.51.6 
  0.51.6-r1 ~0.51.6-r2 ~0.52.2
   Homepage:http://www.redhat.com/
   Description: Redhat's Newt windowing toolkit
  development files
 
  mondo-rescue does depend upon newt, but mindi doesn't (I'd say
  that's probably a bug, but otoh I think mindi alone is rather
  useless). 
 
 Here's the funny part.  I figured out that that file is in the package
 newt, who would have thunk that.  LOL  Anyway, I emerge -1 it then
 when I tell it to start emerging mondorescue again, it skips the
 package mindi completely.
 
 Since I have no clue what this may break, I went back and emerge -1
 mindi just in case.  It worked this time, since newt was there.  May
 be a bug too.  Now back to mondorescue.

Sounds like the ebuild needs to include newt as a dependency!
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --resume


First of all - where did my manners go!?  ;-(

MARRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE!
I wish you health, happiness and even more fun with our favorite Gentoo!

;-


On the subject: Yes, yesterday I woke up with a broken root FS after a
power failure. I did fix the FS with a boot CD I did emerge -e system.
Afterwards I booted the system on its own and started emerge -e world.
During this my cron did emerge --sync. Unfortunately I lost my network
connection and emerge -e world stopped on x11-libs/libxklavier-3.0-r1.
After my connection was restored I had this message from emerge
--resume. So I started emerge -e world again and now it is complete.
Also emerge -DuN world gives an empty list therefore I consider my
system to be up-to-date with the current portage. The problem is that
emerge --resume still gives this never seen before (by me) output.

Bottom lines: I want to clear the resume list in order to get back to
the normal behavior of emerge --resume


P.S.

emerge --resume --skipfirst doesn't help - it gives the same message.

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[gentoo-user] Re: lvm setup questions

2006-12-24 Thread Alexander Skwar

· Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 hi
 
 i'm trying setup lvm on running system using latest lvm2. lvm and kernel part 
 seems ok but rest is problem,after reboot vg and lv are borked.

Please explain what you've done. The exact steps would be
interesting. Also please show what error messages you've
got.

 For now im  
 playing with junk partitions. 
 Do I need put lvm-start(stop).sh in /etc/conf.d/local.start(stop)

No.

 And i cant figure out where lvm puts all data besides /etc/lvm. 

/etc/lvm contains the configuration of LVM - but it's no problem
at all, if /etc/lvm is not there. The volume groups will be created
under dev with the name of the VG. So, if you've got a VG called
Volume00, you'll find /dev/Volume00 (and also /dev/mapper/Volume00-*).

 I have  
 problems to clean mess i have so far ;)

Have you read the LVM howto? If not, you should do so - it's at
http://tldp.org/.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Misconfigured system

2006-12-24 Thread Kevin O'Gorman


On 12/24/06, David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:09:13 +
Mick wrote:

...[snip]...
  Now, I'm curious!  On my system, I see the following:
 
dnsdomainname osagesoftware.com
hostname  osage.osagesoftware.com
hostname --fqdn   osage.osagesoftware.com
 
  /etc/hosts contains:
 
192.168.1.10 osage.osagesoftware.com osage
 
  strace -feopen shows that /etc/hosts is opened by hostname
  --fqdn but not hostname.
 
  What have I got wrong?
 
  Regards,
 
  David
 
  P.S.  Greetings from one Kiewit alumni to another ...

 I discovered that the order of entries on the localhost line is
 important to avoid hostname being identified as none.  I suppose in
 your system it should be:

 127.0.0.1 osage.osagesoftware.com osage localhost

Curiouser and curiouser...

Using your suggested line as the complete content of my /etc/hosts file
has _no_ effect at all.

As an experiment, I tried modifying /etc/conf.d/hostname to have just
a test name, i.e. osagexxx, and restarting /etc/init.d/hostname. My
system was not at all happy with that.

### hostname ; hostname -s ; hostname --fqdn ; dnsdomainname

osagexxx
hostname: Unknown host
hostname: Unknown host
dnsdomainname: Unknown host


As the OP, I checked this out.

Right now, the first two non-comment lines in /etc/hosts are
127.0.0.1   localhost
64.166.164.49 treat.kosmanor.com treat

Adding stuff to the localhost line has no effect.
Fooling with the 64.. line does.  The first thing after the IP
seems to be taken as the
FQDN by hostname --fqdn, so the order on the line is important.

Neither of these affects the results of hostname, although I did not
reboot to test the
theory that this might make a difference.  It seems more likely this comes from
/etc/conf.d/hostname

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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

On Sunday 24 December 2006 17:04, Dale wrote:

   Unpacking source...
   Unpacking mondo-2.10.tgz to
   /var/tmp/portage/mondo-rescue-2.10/work
 
  gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
  tar: Child returned status 2
  tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
 
  !!! ERROR: app-backup/mondo-rescue-2.10 failed.
  Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_unpack
ebuild.sh, line 708:   Called src_unpack
mondo-rescue-2.10.ebuild, line 32:   Called unpack
  'mondo-2.10.tgz' ebuild.sh, line 377:   Called die
 
  !!! failure unpacking mondo-2.10.tgz
  !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
  stack if relevant.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

 Now what do we do with that?  Also note, it failed the md5 thing
 before.  It did that when I used the --digest option.  Something is
 broke here.

Yes, that fails on my box also. Seems the md5 digests are not correct. 
You can try to resync and see if that solves the problem, or file a bug 
after that.
As a last resort, however, you can try using the mondo-2.2.0 ebuild, 
available on the project site (of course, put it into an overlay and 
unmask/keyword things accordingly).

There seems to be a LiveCD available for mondorescue, with which you can 
hopefully try it and do backups/restores without going through the 
hassle of installing masked/unstable/buggy packages, as the mondo-rescue 
ebuild seems to be ATM. You can find it at 
ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/iso/mondorescue.iso (it's there, despite the 
site saying that it's currently unavailable).
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

On Sunday 24 December 2006 18:00, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

 ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/iso/mondorescue.iso (it's there, despite the
 site saying that it's currently unavailable).

Ok, it's definitely NOT there :)  I've been fooled by the fact that after 
clicking on it the browser was asking me to save the file, but if you 
actually do, you get could not read from source. Sorry for the wrong 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 17:04, Dale wrote:

   
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking mondo-2.10.tgz to
 /var/tmp/portage/mondo-rescue-2.10/work
 
 gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
 tar: Child returned status 2
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

 !!! ERROR: app-backup/mondo-rescue-2.10 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_unpack
   ebuild.sh, line 708:   Called src_unpack
   mondo-rescue-2.10.ebuild, line 32:   Called unpack
 'mondo-2.10.tgz' ebuild.sh, line 377:   Called die

 !!! failure unpacking mondo-2.10.tgz
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
 stack if relevant.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
   
 Now what do we do with that?  Also note, it failed the md5 thing
 before.  It did that when I used the --digest option.  Something is
 broke here.
 

 Yes, that fails on my box also. Seems the md5 digests are not correct. 
 You can try to resync and see if that solves the problem, or file a bug 
 after that.
 As a last resort, however, you can try using the mondo-2.2.0 ebuild, 
 available on the project site (of course, put it into an overlay and 
 unmask/keyword things accordingly).

 There seems to be a LiveCD available for mondorescue, with which you can 
 hopefully try it and do backups/restores without going through the 
 hassle of installing masked/unstable/buggy packages, as the mondo-rescue 
 ebuild seems to be ATM. You can find it at 
 ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/iso/mondorescue.iso (it's there, despite the 
 site saying that it's currently unavailable).
   

Well, I went back to mondo-rescue-2.04 and it worked for me, finally. 
uh, this thing is command line though.  This may take me a bit to sort
out.  O_O  It sort of got busy when I typed in mondoarchive and was
waiting on a GUI.  LOL  Learning the hard way as usual.

That link didn't work but I'm diggin around on the site.  It's there
somewhere or you wouldn't have found it.  LOL

Thanks

:D :D :D :D

Re: [gentoo-user] [Somewhat OT] Backup software for CDs.

Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
 On Sunday 24 December 2006 18:00, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:

   
 ftp://ftp.mondorescue.org/iso/mondorescue.iso (it's there, despite the
 site saying that it's currently unavailable).
 

 Ok, it's definitely NOT there :)  I've been fooled by the fact that after 
 clicking on it the browser was asking me to save the file, but if you 
 actually do, you get could not read from source. Sorry for the wrong 
 info.
   
Well, it tells me that it could not change directories.  The previous
page says it is not available for bandwidth issues.  I guess it got to
expensive to host.

Info was right, just wasn't able to access for one reason or other.

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM problem

2006-12-24 Thread Richard Fish


On 12/24/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Could you elaborate on this? What init script? Something in /etc/init.d?
Something to be managed by rc-update?


/sbin/rc starts up lvm volumes, provided you have lvm in
RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/conf.d/rc.  The actual startup of lvm occurs
in /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-start.sh.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --resume

2006-12-24 Thread Stuart Howard


On 24/12/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


First of all - where did my manners go!?  ;-(

MARRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE!
I wish you health, happiness and even more fun with our favorite Gentoo!

;-


On the subject: Yes, yesterday I woke up with a broken root FS after a
power failure. I did fix the FS with a boot CD I did emerge -e system.
Afterwards I booted the system on its own and started emerge -e world.
During this my cron did emerge --sync. Unfortunately I lost my network
connection and emerge -e world stopped on x11-libs/libxklavier-3.0-r1.
After my connection was restored I had this message from emerge
--resume. So I started emerge -e world again and now it is complete.
Also emerge -DuN world gives an empty list therefore I consider my
system to be up-to-date with the current portage. The problem is that
emerge --resume still gives this never seen before (by me) output.

Bottom lines: I want to clear the resume list in order to get back to
the normal behavior of emerge --resume


P.S.

emerge --resume --skipfirst doesn't help - it gives the same message.

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Ouch! not so merry at this time of yea.

Well my understanding of the emerge command is that resume works only
on the current/last call to emerge and since you have been through the
--emptytree all the way you have nothing to resume.
I confess I dont understand the message but I would assume that if you
emege something else then the last emege call will be reset and then
hopefully resume will be working next time you need it, not sure how
you can test to see if resume works unless you try and build a package
that is going to fail then try the resume function.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wrong dependencies to postgresql

2006-12-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

On Saturday 23 December 2006 16:54, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Wrong dependencies to postgresql':
 since jakub (as always) closes all my bugs,

Jakub is pretty bugzilla savvy, are you sure you bugs weren't closed for 
valid reasons?  Sometime he does jump the gun though, so I don't doubt 
that some of your bugs may be valid -- you can always add more information 
to the bug and ask for it to be reopened.

 I'll report the issue 
 to this list before completely giving up and never ever waste a
 single second on reporting bugs ...

Bugzilla is *the only* official channel to get bugs reported so that the 
developers will fix them.  If you don't report your bugs, you'll just have 
to wait for someone else to report or the developers to accidentally fix 
the bug while working on something else.

 Lots of packages have an wrong/unnecessary dependency to
 postgresql.

I don't doubt it.  It's generally better to depend on too much rather than 
too little, and once things are working it's hard to get someone 
to fix it and run the risk of breaking it further.

 Three cases: 

 a) probably traditionally depended on the whole postgresql, maybe
since before libpq was an own package. ie. qt, dovecot, ...

Have you confirmed these actually compile just against libpg?

 b) many apps (ie. webapps like bugzilla) have postgresql as dep.,
although they do not need it to be installed. (ie. bugzilla does
not have to do anything directly w/ postgresql, since it uses
perl-DBD for database access). Of course they maybe want to
have access to some postgres database, but this obviously does
not need an local server.

Are you sure this isn't bringing in postgresql to satisfy some virtual?

In all cases, you've confirmed that the dependency is direct and not USE 
flag controlled?  Also, have you patched the ebuild with the 
changed/removed dependency and then sucessfully installed and run the 
package on a system *without postgresql* installed?

What's the third case?

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If there's one thing we've established over the years,
it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability.
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[gentoo-user] emacs shell color question

2006-12-24 Thread David Relson

G'day,

I habitually run emacs shell sessions.  When I forget the --color
options, for example for the ls and emerge commands, the shell session
displays the ascii escape sequences which is pretty ugly. Is there an
option for telling emacs to handle escape sequences?

Thanks.

David
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM problem

2006-12-24 Thread Jorge Almeida


On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Richard Fish wrote:


On 12/24/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you elaborate on this? What init script? Something in /etc/init.d?
 Something to be managed by rc-update?


/sbin/rc starts up lvm volumes, provided you have lvm in
RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/conf.d/rc.  The actual startup of lvm occurs
in /lib/rcscripts/addons/lvm-start.sh.


OK, thank you. /etc/conf.d/rc has the default values and so it
JustWorks. I suppose that's why I couldn't find anything about this
issue in the docs (gentoo+tldp).

Cheers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --resume

Stuart Howard wrote:
 On 24/12/06, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First of all - where did my manners go!?  ;-(

 MARRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE!
 I wish you health, happiness and even more fun with our favorite Gentoo!

 ;-


 On the subject: Yes, yesterday I woke up with a broken root FS after a
 power failure. I did fix the FS with a boot CD I did emerge -e system.
 Afterwards I booted the system on its own and started emerge -e world.
 During this my cron did emerge --sync. Unfortunately I lost my network
 connection and emerge -e world stopped on x11-libs/libxklavier-3.0-r1.
 After my connection was restored I had this message from emerge
 --resume. So I started emerge -e world again and now it is complete.
 Also emerge -DuN world gives an empty list therefore I consider my
 system to be up-to-date with the current portage. The problem is that
 emerge --resume still gives this never seen before (by me) output.

 Bottom lines: I want to clear the resume list in order to get back to
 the normal behavior of emerge --resume


 P.S.

 emerge --resume --skipfirst doesn't help - it gives the same message.

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 Ouch! not so merry at this time of yea.

 Well my understanding of the emerge command is that resume works only
 on the current/last call to emerge and since you have been through the
 --emptytree all the way you have nothing to resume.
 I confess I dont understand the message but I would assume that if you
 emege something else then the last emege call will be reset and then
 hopefully resume will be working next time you need it, not sure how
 you can test to see if resume works unless you try and build a package
 that is going to fail then try the resume function.

 stu


Well, I tried emerge mc and I hit ctrl-c in the middle of the process.
Then emerge --resume emerged mc. Now emerge --resume gives the same
strange message again. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] emerge --resume