Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:05:31 -0800, Grant wrote:

  The same way you copied it from the laptop in the first place: boot
  from a live CD and copy it with rsync or that tar+ssh hack.  
 
 The problem with booting into the LiveCD is I can't get on the
 network.  I don't have a crossover cable to connect to the Gentoo
 router (although I'm ordering a switch), and I don't think the LiveCD
 supports madwifi since it doesn't have a net.ath0 interface.  I had
 just booted normally and copied /dev/hda3 over before.

I mentioned a live CD not the live CD. It doesn't have to be a Gentoo
install CD, and Knoppix includes madwifi.


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Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 persist in trying to come up even though not in any run level.

2007-01-28 Thread Patrice Bouvard
Le Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:51:57 -0500,
James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Richard Watson wrote:
  Hi, I recently upgraded my system with emerge -uDN world. Afterwards I 
  found that net.eth0 was grabbing my firewire port (ieee1394) and I needed 
  to create net.eth2 for my NIC as net.eth1 was being assigned to my 
  wireless. My problem is that although rc-update show indicates all my 
  interfaces are NOT being loaded other than net.lo at boot (which is what I 
  want) my system keeps trying to start net.eth0 net.eth1 net.eth2 in the  
  default run level. Can anybody help? It's very frustrating waiting for 
  these interfaces to try and connect before timing out.
 
  I've always run my network connection on this basis as Gentoo is on my 
  laptop and depending where I am will determine which interface I want to 
  use.
 
  Thanks, Richard
 

 rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0  rm /etc/init.d/net.ath1
 

That's a solution. Unfortunately, not always the good one.


Richard : you should have a look at RC_PLUG_SERVICES in /etc/conf.d/rc


Another solution if you are dhcp-ing is (from /etc/conf.d/net.example) :

# For passing custom options to dhcpcd use something like the following.  This
# example reduces the timeout for retrieving an address from 60 seconds (the
# default) to 10 seconds.
#dhcpcd_eth0=-t 10

But !!! Yes, there is a but... Be carefull. On some networks, it might takes 
a bit more than 10sec
to receive an dhcp answer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a):
 
 Disclaimer: I don't (often) use KDE...
 
 But there is a Settings://Accessibility/Regional  Languages option (or
 similiar).  Have you using that and setting it to Polish?

Can't find it in Gnome. Isn't it a KDE option?

 ... also might want to check your $LANG and $LC_ALL environment
 variables...

Both set to pl_PL.

Thanks for your feedback.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Bo Ørsted Andresen napisał(a):
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3

Thanks, but I've followed these instructions already when was installing
my Gentoo.

 # locale -a

C
pl_PL
POSIX

 # locale

LANG=pl_PL
LC_CTYPE=pl_PL
LC_NUMERIC=pl_PL
LC_TIME=pl_PL
LC_COLLATE=pl_PL
LC_MONETARY=pl_PL
LC_MESSAGES=pl_PL
LC_PAPER=pl_PL
LC_NAME=pl_PL
LC_ADDRESS=pl_PL
LC_TELEPHONE=pl_PL
LC_MEASUREMENT=pl_PL
LC_IDENTIFICATION=pl_PL
LC_ALL=pl_PL

Seems to be as Polish as a Linux can be. And it really is, in fact,
despite those KDE apps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Benno Schulenberg napisał(a):
 Jan Stępień wrote:
 In my
 USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.
 Why not use Unicode?  The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that 
 everywhere?

When posting to international groups I try to use to use UTF-8 to make
it accessible for everyone. However, over here in Poland most of my
friends and colleagues use ISO-8859-2 and it's easier for us to use the
same encoding. And last but not the least, I don't believe that KDE
running in Polish has to use UTF-8.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 28 January 2007 15:10:15 Jan Stępień wrote:
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3

 Thanks, but I've followed these instructions already when was installing
 my Gentoo.
[SNIP]

I guess I can assume that `locale-gen` doesn't report any errors then. So 
maybe you need to install kde-base/kde-i18n ? I assume your LINGUAS variable 
does include pl? Otherwise adjust it and run `emerge -vDp --newuse world`.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Mick
On Sunday 28 January 2007 14:14, Jan Stępień wrote:
 Benno Schulenberg napisał(a):
  Jan Stępień wrote:
  In my
  USE flag unicode is disabled. I'm using ISO-8859-2 encoding.
 
  Why not use Unicode?  The mail you sent uses UTF-8, why not use that
  everywhere?

 When posting to international groups I try to use to use UTF-8 to make
 it accessible for everyone. However, over here in Poland most of my
 friends and colleagues use ISO-8859-2 and it's easier for us to use the
 same encoding. And last but not the least, I don't believe that KDE
 running in Polish has to use UTF-8.

Why don't you try this in your /etc/locale.gen file and then run again running 
# locale-gen:

=
pl_PL ISO-8859-2
pl_PL UTF-8
...
en_US UTF-8
...
etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Mick napisał(a):
 On Sunday 28 January 2007 14:14, Jan Stępień wrote:
 When posting to international groups I
 try to use to use UTF-8 to make
 it accessible for everyone. However, over here in Poland most of my
 friends and colleagues use ISO-8859-2 and it's
 easier for us to use the
 same encoding. And last but not the least, I don't believe that KDE
 running in Polish has to use UTF-8.

 Why don't you try this in your /etc/locale.gen file and then
 run again running
 # locale-gen:

Because there must be a possibility of using KDE apps under Gnome with
ISO-8859-2. Enabling UTF-8 may be a solution, but it doesn't satisfy me.

By the way, I gave it a try but it doesn't work. I still have got those
rectangles instead of diacriticals.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Grant,
on Saturday, 2007-01-27 at 09:34:47, you wrote:
 The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the
 laptop when it won't even have an OS on it.  I could boot a LiveCD but
 I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network.

Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In that case, setting up a
wired network (if they have wlan, these machines would have wired lan as
well, no?) or buying that 2.5 IDE adapter is probably the least hassle.

cheers!
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[gentoo-user] udev / ppp problem

2007-01-28 Thread Mike Markowski
I have a ~x86 box that is dial up only and uses ppp.  Last weekend an 
'emerge -uD world' seemed to complete without issue but now I can't make 
a ppp connection as seen by the error attached below.  I admit to not 
knowing my way around udev yet  what I've read isn't helping with this. 
 I'm guessing I need to recreate something somehow.  Penetrating 
insight...  Does anyone see what it is I'm missing that causes the


  udevd-event[9376]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for
  '/sys/class/net/ppp0/device/driver' failed

error below?  There's no ppp0 directory under /sys/class/net/ but I 
don't know what creates it.


Thanks very much,
Mike

=== snipped from /var/log/messages ===

Jan 27 15:40:03 home PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
Jan 27 15:40:03 home pppd[9349]: pppd 2.4.4 started by mm, uid 0
Jan 27 15:40:04 home chat[9360]: abort on (BUSY)
Jan 27 15:40:04 home chat[9360]: abort on (NO CARRIER)

[...typical modem connect msgs...]

Jan 27 15:40:39 home pppd[9349]: Serial connection established.
Jan 27 15:40:39 home pppd[9349]: Using interface ppp0
Jan 27 15:40:39 home pppd[9349]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
Jan 27 15:40:42 home udevd-event[9376]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for 
'/sys/class/net/ppp0/device/driver' failed
Jan 27 15:40:42 home udev-net.sh: /etc/init.d/net.ppp0: does not exist 
or is not executable

Jan 27 15:40:48 home pppd[9349]: Modem hangup
Jan 27 15:40:48 home pppd[9349]: Connection terminated.
Jan 27 15:40:48 home udev-net.sh: /etc/init.d/net.ppp0: does not exist 
or is not executable

Jan 27 15:40:49 home pppd[9349]: Exit.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Albert Hopkins napisał(a):
 Then you probably don't want to use GDM or any other DM as they are
 primarily designed to manage displays that are already selected.  What
 you want is more of a chicken-and-egg issue for a display manager.
 
 What you likely need is something to be run from the command line (i.e.
 *before* X is started).  startx (or xinit) are perfect for this.  No
 need to write any fancy program, it can pretty much do what you're
 asking:
 
 $ startx /path/to/program/that/needs/X.org -- /usr/bin/X
 $ startx -- /usr/bin/Xgl

Thanks, now it works flawlessly. I can easily launch a slick desktop
with Xgl and Beryl, and if I require direct rendering I simply log out
and launch Xorg.

Now I'll try to find a clever solution and make this method a little bit
more automatic. We'll see what I'll be able to find around the web.

Thanks once again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Stępień
Bo Ørsted Andresen napisał(a):
 I guess I can assume that `locale-gen` doesn't report any errors then. So 
 maybe you need to install kde-base/kde-i18n ? I assume your LINGUAS variable 
 does include pl? Otherwise adjust it and run `emerge -vDp --newuse world`.

Yes, locale-gen outputs no errors. Installing kde-base/kde-i18n with
pl among my LINGUAS wasn't helpful, however I've noticed something
interesting.

I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an
option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser
dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical
characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars
correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have
changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context
window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of
those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to
admit that I'm a little bit dizzy.

Regards,
Jan Stępień

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-28 Thread Dan Johansson
On Sunday 28 January 2007 00:34, Marc Redmann wrote:
  After the upgrade of dbus a few days ago, KDE won't mount my USB devices
  automatically anymore.
  Any suggestions where to start my search?

 I remember that I had to recompile kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves after hal
 and dbus upgrade to make the automount feature in kde work again ... maybe
 you can try that ...

After finding http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_D-BUS_Session_Bus_with_KDM and 
following it automounting in KDE works again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Grant

 The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the
 laptop when it won't even have an OS on it.  I could boot a LiveCD but
 I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network.

Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In that case, setting up a
wired network (if they have wlan, these machines would have wired lan as
well, no?) or buying that 2.5 IDE adapter is probably the least hassle.


Do you think it's a lost cause anyway since after a format/reinstall
the system still detects errors on the disk?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2007 19:15, Grant wrote:
   The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the
   laptop when it won't even have an OS on it.  I could boot a LiveCD but
   I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network.
 
  Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In that case, setting up a
  wired network (if they have wlan, these machines would have wired lan as
  well, no?) or buying that 2.5 IDE adapter is probably the least hassle.

 Do you think it's a lost cause anyway since after a format/reinstall
 the system still detects errors on the disk?

A lost drive rather than a lost case. ;-) (Well, it could also be the 
controller. So you better let the people where you have bought the box check 
it.) Get a new harddrive. After that, you might still be able to get your 
data back. Neil suggested earlier today to use a LiveCD that supports 
madwifi - Knoppix would do.

If that is too much of a hassle, how difficult can it be to get your hands on 
a crossover cable? If you can't crimp one yourself, buy one for approximately 
$2.99. I can do that even here in Africa. Shouldn't be too big a problem 
whereever you live.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-28 Thread Mark Knecht

On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The thing I'm confused about is how I can get anything back to the
  laptop when it won't even have an OS on it.  I could boot a LiveCD but
  I don't think I'll be able to connect to the wireless network.

 Hum...that's pretty much a show stopper. In that case, setting up a
 wired network (if they have wlan, these machines would have wired lan as
 well, no?) or buying that 2.5 IDE adapter is probably the least hassle.

Do you think it's a lost cause anyway since after a format/reinstall
the system still detects errors on the disk?

- Grant


Grant,
  At this point if you cannot get a clean bill of health for this
drive from 2 or 3 different tools then it seems the drive is shot and
needs to be replaced. I cannot imagine that it is a good use of your
time installing Gentoo only to have it fail in the middle of the
install or worse yet a day or two after you finish and start using the
machine again.

  Are laptop hard drives really that expensive or hard to replace? I
should think that you could get a small computer shop to drop
something in for under $100, depending on your needs of course.

  Anyway, don't fight the trend. It seems this drive, or possibly
this laptop but probably the drive, needs to be fixed. Without a solid
laptop foundation your Gentoo building will soon come crashing down.

Just my 2 cents,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello,

On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 05:07:26PM +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
 I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an
 option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser
 dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical
 characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars
 correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have
 changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context
 window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of
 those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to
 admit that I'm a little bit dizzy.

Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 28 January 2007 20:09, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
 Hello,

 On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 05:07:26PM +0100, Jan Stępień wrote:
  I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an
  option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser
  dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical
  characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars
  correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have
  changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context
  window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of
  those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to
  admit that I'm a little bit dizzy.

 Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol?

He is using GNOME!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters

2007-01-28 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:27:02PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol?
 
 He is using GNOME!

Ups, sorry. Near hit. Then gnome-control-center? (mistaken by amarok,
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB external hard drive erratic behaviour

2007-01-28 Thread b.n.
James Lockie ha scritto:
 Sounds like it is not caching all writes.
 Search for USB Linux cache 'slow write'.

Thanks for your answer.
I googled for the keywords you gave me but I had no significant result.

m.


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[gentoo-user] Gettext won't emerge for me

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

When I try my usual update command
  emerge -aDvu world
it's trying to merge sys-devel/gettext-0.16.1 and failing.  The tail
end of the attempt looks like this:

Making all in misc
make[3]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.16.1/work/gettext-0.16.1/gettext-tools/misc'
WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-)
if test emacs != no; then \
 set x; \
 list='start-po.el po-mode.el po-compat.el'; for p in $list; do \
   if test -f $p; then d=; else d=./; fi; \
   set x $@ $d$p; shift; \
 done; \
 shift; \
 EMACS=emacs /bin/sh ../../build-aux/elisp-comp $@ || exit 1; \
   else : ; fi
Cannot open load file: /usr/share/emacs/site-list/site-gentoo
make[3]: *** [elc-stamp] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.16.1/work/gettext-0.16.1/gettext-tools/misc'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.16.1/work/gettext-0.16.1/gettext-tools'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gettext-0.16.1/work/gettext-0.16.1/gettext-tools'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gettext-0.16.1 failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 937:   Called src_compile
 gettext-0.16.1.ebuild, line 58:   Called die

!!! (no error message)
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stack if relevant.

And I have emacs 21.4-r4 installed, but instead of
   /usr/share/emacs/site-list/site-gentoo
I have
   /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-gentoo.el
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gettext won't emerge for me

2007-01-28 Thread Iván Pérez Domínguez
Well, no help there, but surprisingly I just
updated emacs and gettext after it, and everything went well.
I don't have /usr/share/emacs/site-list/site-gentoo, only
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gettext won't emerge for me

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

On 1/28/07, Iván Pérez Domínguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Well, no help there, but surprisingly I just
updated emacs and gettext after it, and everything went well.
I don't have /usr/share/emacs/site-list/site-gentoo, only
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-gentoo.el, btw.



So my copy of the ebuild or Makefile may be damaged.  I wonder:
1) how that slipped through
2) how I can fix it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gettext won't emerge for me

2007-01-28 Thread Iván Pérez Domínguez
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
 On 1/28/07, Iván Pérez Domínguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, no help there, but surprisingly I just
 updated emacs and gettext after it, and everything went well.
 I don't have /usr/share/emacs/site-list/site-gentoo, only
 /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-gentoo.el, btw.
 
 
 So my copy of the ebuild or Makefile may be damaged.  I wonder:
 1) how that slipped through
 2) how I can fix it.
 

If that is the case, emerge --sync should fix your problems.

But I really doubt your case is the same as mine, I guess the problem is
somewhere else. Maybe you should try to see what package owns those
directories (equery might be handy here), where is the variable that
points to /usr/share/emacs/site-something set, what value is assigned to
it, how it is calculated,...

By the way, gettext has explicit support for emacs, you can
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE does not auto-mount my USB devices anymore

2007-01-28 Thread Marc Redmann
 After finding http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_D-BUS_Session_Bus_with_KDM and
 following it automounting in KDE works again.

Nice to know that there are other ways round that problem ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev / ppp problem

2007-01-28 Thread maxim wexler
 insight...  Does anyone see what it is I'm missing
 that causes the
 
udevd-event[9376]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting
 for
'/sys/class/net/ppp0/device/driver' failed
 
 error below?  There's no ppp0 directory under
 /sys/class/net/ but I 
 don't know what creates it.

PPP can be a pain. There's little support or even
interest. I went through a rough patch last summer. 

From my notes I see I had to re-add net.ppp0 to the
default runlevel as well as re-edit
autoload.d/modules. Dialup works but I still get ppp0
doe not exist when the computer boots.

FWIW here's my /sys/class/net

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /sys/class/net/ppp0
total 0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 addr_len
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 16:29 address
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 broadcast
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 carrier
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 features
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 flags
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 ifindex
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 iflink
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 mtu
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 Jan 28 16:29 statistics
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 tx_queue_len
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 type
--w--- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 uevent
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Jan 28 19:01 weight

There's no driver there either. The time is strange
too cause I booted and dialed out mebbe half an hour
before that. So I can't say what process wrote what
either.

I also recall not putting anything in /etc/conf.d/net
except a reference to an ethernet card I use to
connect to another pc.

HTH

Maxim


 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-28 Thread Martins
You may choose to start X or Xgl generic way using startx or startxgl scripts. 
Out there are some.

m


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[gentoo-user] Puzzling logwatch entry

2007-01-28 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
I am using Logwatch (logwatch-7.3-r1) and lately have been getting these 
messages:


 - Kernel module scsi Begin 

 **Unmatched Entries**
 SCSI subsystem initialized
 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB)
 drive cache: write back
 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB)
 drive cache: write back
 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB)
 drive cache: write back
 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB)
 drive cache: write back
 2014992 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB)
 2014992 512-byte hdwr sectors (1032 MB)

 -- Kernel module scsi End -

I have 2 SATA drives (320MB each) and am using kernel 2.6.18.

Does anyone know what these messages mean?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Symlinking /usr/portage/distfiles

2007-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:40, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
 One question though: is there a reason why PORTAGE_TMPDIR does not
 default to /tmp?

The real nature of /tmp isn't adequate for portage, that's why it uses a 
different one. If memory serves, the FHS defines /tmp as a temporary 
place to store files, and the continued existence of the file after a 
process has finished is not guaranteed. In other words, if there are no 
existing locks on a file, it's up for summary deletion. This could be 
fatal in a big compile - imagine if some cleaner process nuked a binary 
compiled 4 hours ago in an openoffice compile

But the best reason is that some compiles are HUGE. Openoffice can take 
up all of 5G with everything enabled, and as /tmp is often a tmpfs, 
it's highly unlikely most users will have enough space on /tmp to 
emerge it. 

alan
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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server and ati-drivers 'bussiness'

2007-01-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:30, Martins wrote:
  I'm having the same problems. ati-drivers insists on using
  X.org-7.1.0.0 or earlier, obviously because the drivers were
  compiled against that version.
 
  I don't have the ati-drivers source code so I can't tell if there
  was an ABI change that the driver enforces, or if ATI simply
  hardcoded the drivers to fail. I'm betting on the latter
 
  In either case the solution would appear to be a hard dependency on
  = X.org-7.1.0.0 in the ebuild. Have you submitted a bug to bgo?
 
  alan

 no, i didnt submit bug due to I dont understand what bug it is
 related to - xorg or ati-drivers or both ;)

Here's an update:

I downloaded and emerged xorg-server-1.2.0, xorg-x11-7.2 and 
ati-drivers-8.32.5 over the weekend and it all went smoothly. So it 
would seem that ati-drivers does need a hard dependency on 
xorg-x11-7.2. File the bug against ati-drivers asking for a hard dep

alan
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