Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to create nessus-bin-3.2.0 ebuild

2008-03-22 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've taken a slightly different route, going for the debian package.
 Instead
 of looking for an eclass to handle the conversion i just did it manually
 with
 deb2targz.
 Handley debian has openssl-0.9.8, so the dependancies are correct without
 having to resort to ugly symlinks, although nessusd does complain about
 no
 version information available in libssl and libcrypto.


Oh' thanks a lot for the information.
nessus from suse10 does not starts at all for me.

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[gentoo-user] some OSS software that enable me make call to traditional telephone by using Internet?

2008-03-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Dear all

I wish to be able to make telephone call from Internet to Traditional
telephone, like I did with skyp out. But I am using Linux on ppc, and
skype did not release ppc binary.

Is there a solution for people like me? I think if there are OSS
solutions they are preferable because then it tends to be able to
compile on any kind of hardware. Actually any solution (including
binary-release software) are fine for me, as long as they can run on
Linux/ppc.

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] some OSS software that enable me make call to traditional telephone by using Internet?

2008-03-22 Thread Sergio Díaz Nila
You can try ekiga http://ekiga.org/ and openwengohttp://www.openwengo.org/,
both can call to regular or cell phones, read FAQ of both sites for details.


Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m I don't want modules here.

2008-03-22 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 21. März 2008 schrieb Dale:

 What is this and why is it so persistent about it having to be there?

Because of:

config SCSI_WAIT_SCAN
tristate
default m
depends on SCSI
depends on MODULES

in drivers/scsi/Kconfig.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iTunes with Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Florian Philipp

On Fri, 2008-03-21 at 17:39 -0700, Joshua D Doll wrote:
 Florian Philipp wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-03-18 at 10:11 -0700, Joshua D Doll wrote:

  Michael Schmarck wrote:
  
  Hello.
 
  Sorry for being somewhat Off Topic, but could you guys please tell
  me if it's possible to use iTunes with wine-0.9.57 under a ~x86
  system? Is it possible to change the store location to something
  other than US (as that's required to buy songs, as far as I know)?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Michael
 


  iTunes works pretty well, running on a VM of windows. I run windows XP 
  with VMWare Workstation and have iTunes installed to sync my iPod, 
  because no OSS solutions handle m4a very well :-(.
 
  --Joshua Doll
  
 
  But you have no way to burn an audio-cd from it and thus get rid of drm,
  right?

 
 I've burned a copy of CDs from within the VM, but not using iTunes. I 
 personally don't have very many DRM'd music, like I said I just use it 
 to transfer m4a (apple lossless which is not DRM'd) files to my iPod.
 
 
 --Joshua Doll

Oh, that interests me: Which VM enables you to actually burn CDs? I
tried Qemu once and were told at that time that there is no VM with
CD-burning functionality.

Did you actually burn it from within the VM, e.g. having that much
control over your hardware or did you create an image you later burned
with native linux tools?


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Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m I don't want modules here.

2008-03-22 Thread Dale

Stroller wrote:


On 22 Mar 2008, at 01:08, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:23:11 +, Stroller wrote:


I suspect that this is caused because CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN depends
upon some other kernel option, and because you have that compiled in
as a module. Thus the dependencies of the parent are forced to be
modular.


I thought Dale said that he hadn't anything set to compile as a module.


He doesn't seem to specifically state that.
He does (subsequently?) say that he doesn't _want_ anything as a 
module (beware teh dark side!), but that's not the same thing.


As I read Dale's original post, all he says is I set 
CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN as `not set` (and in his post of 21 March 2008 
16:13:49 GMT he says if I say `compile it in') and it keeps turning 
back into a module.


Of course this would prolly be much easier if Dale just posted a copy 
of his .config. I have a feeling something obvious is being 
overlooked, and it wouldn't do any hard to post the output of `cd 
/usr/src/linux  ls -ld /usr/src/linux  md5sum .config  make  
make modules_install` so we can see stuff for ourselves. You'll notice 
that  I look to check things like the /usr/src/linux symlink here and 
that the .config used is actually the same one as I suggest he posts.


Stroller.


True, you may have to read between the lines but I do not have any 
modules with the exception of nvidia.  I have to have my picture on the 
screen so I can surf the www.  LOL 

I attached a copy of my config for you to look at.  I have not changed 
the symlink yet because I have not actually booted the new kernel yet.  
This is what I get after trying to make a kernel:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r3 # make all  make 
modules_install

 CHK include/linux/version.h
 CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
 CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh
 CHK include/linux/compile.h
Kernel: arch/x86/boot/bzImage is ready  (#3)

The present kernel configuration has modules disabled.
Type 'make config' and enable loadable module support.
Then build a kernel with module support enabled.

make: *** [modules_install] Error 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r3 #


I suspect that I can leave off the make modules_install since there 
*should* not be any.  It also says it makes the kernel itself.  I'm just 
curious if my nvidia drivers will load without the loadable modules 
option there??


My wish list, the ability to compile in loadable module support into the 
kernel and whatever else it has to have with it.  Back to nothing being 
a module except nvidia.


If I can't have it that way, I guess I'll have a extra module.  Of 
course, then something else will likely creep in the list too.   ;-)


I hope the extra info helps.  Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.24-gentoo-r3
# Fri Mar 21 10:36:11 2008
#
# CONFIG_64BIT is not set
CONFIG_X86_32=y
# CONFIG_X86_64 is not set
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y
CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y
CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_ZONE_DMA=y
CONFIG_QUICKLIST=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_DMI=y
# CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
# CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ILOG2_U32 is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_ILOG2_U64 is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
# CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_OPROFILE=y
# CONFIG_ZONE_DMA32 is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_POPULATES_NODE_MAP=y
# CONFIG_AUDIT_ARCH is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y
CONFIG_X86_BIOS_REBOOT=y
CONFIG_KTIME_SCALAR=y
CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set
# CONFIG_USER_NS is not set
# CONFIG_PID_NS is not set
# CONFIG_AUDIT is not set
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
# CONFIG_CGROUPS is not set
CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED=y
CONFIG_FAIR_USER_SCHED=y
# CONFIG_FAIR_CGROUP_SCHED is not set
# CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED is not set
# CONFIG_RELAY is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=
CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
# CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_ANON_INODES=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y
CONFIG_EVENTFD=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y

Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m I don't want modules here.

2008-03-22 Thread Dale

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Freitag, 21. März 2008 schrieb Dale:

  

What is this and why is it so persistent about it having to be there?



Because of:

config SCSI_WAIT_SCAN
tristate
default m
depends on SCSI
depends on MODULES

in drivers/scsi/Kconfig.

HTH...

Dirk
  


Oh, so I need to smack someone for forcing me to have modules when I 
don't want any?  What if this was a critical system and for security 
reasons modules were not wanted?  Then what?  It's forced on them 
anyway?  This is not a critical system tho.  Just my desktop rig.  Just 
curious.


It just seems weird to me.  Linux is about choice right?

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-22 Thread Grant
 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?
  
Hi there,
  
I work on PCs for a living, mostly peoples' home computers, and in
the case of a dead pc the cause is nearly as often something else
as it is a dead PSU.
  
Causes such as a duff CD-ROM drive or a damaged USB connector are
surprising but not uncommon, so reset the BIOS (using the  method
described by Volker) and if that doesn't work unplug as much as
possible from the motherboard - you'll surely need the CPU  RAM for
it to post, but you may wish to swap out the RAM at some point in
your diagnostics - and unplug most everything else. That means
drives, PCI cards, USB devices, stuff connected to the USB  serial
headers, graphics card if possible. Also don't connect the power
supply to any of the drives, or anything else that you're not
currently using.
  
I've seen cheap power supplies take out the motherboard when they go.
Sorry if you find that to be the case.
 
  I removed everything from the motherboard and even tried another CPU
  that used to run on that same motherboard.  No luck.  I can't test the
  power supply in my P3 router because the CPU power plug is different.
 
  I should have said before that every couple times I try to turn it on,
  the CPU fan spins about 2% of a full rotation and some of the LEDs
  along the back light up for a second.
 
  Would you guys say it is most likely the motherboard at this point?
 
  - Grant
 
 
 
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 I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say this is an Emachines PC.  Am I
 right?

Not Emachine actually.  I built it about 1.5 years ago with parts from
the lowest bidder.

- Grant

 Emachines, when the PSU goes bad, have a habit of taking out the
 motherboard, too.  Hooking the old PSU up to a new motherboard fries the new
 one.  I fried 2 motherboards (not Emachines supplied) back in my early days
 doing this (PSU wasn't Emachines, either).  So, it can happen with other
 PSU/motherboards.  If the motherboard has a status light and it isn't even
 coming on, then the motherboard is dead.  Even bad CPUs I've damaged still
 allowed the motherboard, fans, etc. to power up (though nothing came up on
 the screen).

Good info, thanks Mark.

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Grant
I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
think?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:07 -0700, Grant wrote:
 I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
 AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
 faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
 think?
 
 - Grant

I work at the German Aerospace Center (basically the German NASA). We've
been using AMD CPUs for a long time on our clusters and workstations
because they were not only cheaper but also faster on floating point
operations whereas Intel was faster on integer operations. Now we are
switching to Intel because AMD lost this advantage and has problems
delivering the ordered number of CPUs.
I personally stick with AMD because they have a factory in Germany and I
don't want Intel to rule the market as they've done before AMD came up
with the Athlon XP.


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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Norman Rieß

Grant schrieb:

I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
think?

- Grant
  
Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than 
just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And 
then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what 
reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on. 
Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and 
how much can the system provide.
But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead 
right now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Norman Rieß

Florian Philipp schrieb:

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:07 -0700, Grant wrote:
  

I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
think?

- Grant



I work at the German Aerospace Center (basically the German NASA). We've
been using AMD CPUs for a long time on our clusters and workstations
because they were not only cheaper but also faster on floating point
operations whereas Intel was faster on integer operations. Now we are
switching to Intel because AMD lost this advantage and has problems
delivering the ordered number of CPUs.
I personally stick with AMD because they have a factory in Germany and I
don't want Intel to rule the market as they've done before AMD came up
with the Athlon XP.
  
I can confirm that. The German Weather Service uses AMD CPU's on the 
servers for visualising weathercharts due to better FPU performance.

The new bunch of servers however are intel systems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 18:44 +0100, Norman Rieß wrote:
 Grant schrieb:
  I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
  AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
  faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
  think?
 
  - Grant

 Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than 
 just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And 
 then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what 
 reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on. 
 Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and 
 how much can the system provide.
 But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead 
 right now.
 
 Norman

When Intel finally implements HyperTransport (I think it's planned for
the next generation), AMD will loose their last bastion performance
wise ... what a pity.


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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag, 22. März 2008, Grant wrote:
 I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
 AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
 faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
 think?

price/performance still favours AMD.

Also, without even knowing your hardware, it is really hard to say why your 
laptop is faster or your desktop slower.
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Norman Rieß

Grant schrieb:

   I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
   AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
   faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
   think?
  
   - Grant
  
  Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than
  just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And
  then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what
  reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on.
  Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and
  how much can the system provide.
  But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead
  right now.
 
  Norman

 When Intel finally implements HyperTransport (I think it's planned for
 the next generation), AMD will loose their last bastion performance
 wise ... what a pity.



It is a pity.  When did AMD's overall advantage disappear?

- Grant
  

With the arrival of the Core CPU's.
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Grant
I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
think?
   
- Grant
   
   Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than
   just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And
   then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what
   reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on.
   Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and
   how much can the system provide.
   But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead
   right now.
  
   Norman

  When Intel finally implements HyperTransport (I think it's planned for
  the next generation), AMD will loose their last bastion performance
  wise ... what a pity.

It is a pity.  When did AMD's overall advantage disappear?

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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Andrey Falko
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating
  AMD in performance tests.  Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much
  faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower.  What do you guys
  think?
 
  - Grant
 
 Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than
 just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And
 then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what
 reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on.
 Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and
 how much can the system provide.
 But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead
 right now.

 Norman
  
When Intel finally implements HyperTransport (I think it's planned for
the next generation), AMD will loose their last bastion performance
wise ... what a pity.

  It is a pity.  When did AMD's overall advantage disappear?

  - Grant

When Intel came out with its Core Two Duo CPUs, and *really* when
Intel came out with Quad Cores before AMD.

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[gentoo-user] Re: AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread James
Norman Rieß norman at smash-net.org writes:


  It is a pity.  When did AMD's overall advantage disappear?

 With the arrival of the Core CPU's.

When/if AMD is able to complete their new architecture, integrating
video processors with 64 bit processors they might become competitive
on a cost/performance basis. Certainly with AMD open sourcing new video
driver development, they still have a v very strong appeal to open sources
users. HIGH end technical clusters and the processors they use are different
needs than the average small business or consumer, which needs robust support
for open source video and applications.


If everyone runs to Intel, we'll all be *very sorry* in a few years...


The ultimate questions is do you really make a purchase decision base strictly
on extreme benchmark results, or do you stand by your vendor, as they regroup
and keep things competitive? Remember Intel has been just as evil as Redmond
particular in matters related to DeCSS and video on computer issues, IMHO.


AMD is my soul_mate(particularly since they are open sourcing new
ATI video drivers...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-22 Thread Ted Ozolins

Grant wrote:

  A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
  the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
  problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
  replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?



As strange as this may sound, we had a server go down and we thought 
psu/mb. it turned out to be the cmos battery. We replaced it (about four 
years ago), the server has been flawless since.


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Re: [gentoo-user] CONFIG_SCSI_WAIT_SCAN=m I don't want modules here.

2008-03-22 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 22. März 2008 schrieb Dale:

 It just seems weird to me.  Linux is about choice right?

Feel free to file a bug on kernel.org. They'll either fix it or eventually 
explain why it is as it is.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:34:57 + (UTC)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 AMD is my soul_mate(particularly since they are open sourcing new
 ATI video drivers...)
 
As far as I know, and unless something changed, that's inaccurate.

They haven't released any code at all. They have released *some*
specifications for some graphics chips.

They started releasing the register specs for some cards. Recently,
they released the 3d specs, only for r500 chips as far as I know.
It's better than nothing of course... But it far far far from open
sourcing the drivers or releasing the whole specifications for every
card.

I would be glad to be wrong though. I must admit that I don't follow
too closely the thing, so, any info to probe me wrong is more than
welcome.

Regards.
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[gentoo-user] unixODBC econf failure

2008-03-22 Thread Max
Hello,

After updating gnutls revdep-rebuild would like to update an awfull lot
of packages, including unixODBC. So far no problem but unixODBC does not
compile. After a while it comes up with the following error message:


...
checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... 
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.

!!! Please attach the following file when seeking support:
!!! 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/work/unixODBC-2.2.12/gODBCConfig/config.log
 * 
 * ERROR: dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2622:  Called econf 'src_compile'
'src_compile' '--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu'
'--with-odbc=/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/work/unixODBC-2.2.12' 
'--enable-static'
 *   ebuild.sh, line  513:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *  die econf failed
 *  The die message:
 *   econf failed
 * 
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/temp/environment'.
 * 
...

The following gcc is installed:

sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2  USE=doc fortran gcj gtk ip28 ip32r10k mudflap
multislot nls objc objc++ objc-gc (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -d
(-hardened) -libffi (-multilib) (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -test -vanilla

Some information about the system:

CPU: Intel P4D Processor Family 15
Gentoo: AMD64

CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

Kernel: gentoo 2.6.24-r3

If any further information is needed to solve the problem i'll be glad
to provide it. Thank you a lot in advance.

cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Alexander Meinke

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Hi.

AMD has had better engineers than Intel all the time. Intel just had the money.
A few years ago the CIO from Intel advised engineers to be more creative. So AMD
will stay ahead of the pack and if they find the right way (actually they're
going the right way - open specifications) the competition is going on.
I hope that nVidia won't acquire AMD.
In fact atm. there is no measurable performance difference weather in IU nor in
FPU operations, however AMD has a better performance/price.
In HPCs AMD beats Intel because they don't use obsolete FSB. I am looking
forward to the new CPU architecture where GPU and CPU find together.

I am using Intel technology because chipset, wlan, bluetooth and so on are
working great together, although there is no HypterTransport. Intel is going to
follow AMD because they have the money.


Regards,

acm.


PS: Greets to the German Aerospace Center in Neustrelitz and it's networking
department.
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Re: [gentoo-user] unixODBC econf failure

2008-03-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 22 March 2008, Max wrote:
 Hello,

 After updating gnutls revdep-rebuild would like to update an awfull
 lot of packages, including unixODBC. So far no problem but unixODBC
 does not compile. After a while it comes up with the following error
 message:

shameless crib of request for more info from the forums

Please post the output of emerge --info. 
 
 Have you changed any of CFLAGS, CXXFLAGS, CHOST or LDFLAGS 
in /etc/make.conf recently? Have you changed your profile recently? 
Have you upgraded or unmerged ay version of GCC recently? If so, what 
was the old value/version and what is the current value/version?

/shameless crib

also please post 'gcc-config -l'





 ...
 checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
 checking for C compiler default output file name...
 configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
 See `config.log' for more details.

 !!! Please attach the following file when seeking support:
 !!!
 /var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/work/unixODBC-2.2.12/gODBCCon
fig/config.log *
  * ERROR: dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12 failed.
  * Call stack:
  *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
  * environment, line 2622:  Called econf 'src_compile'
 'src_compile' '--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu'
 '--with-odbc=/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/work/unixODBC-2.
2.12' '--enable-static' *   ebuild.sh, line  513:  Called
 die
  * The specific snippet of code:
  *die econf failed
  *  The die message:
  *   econf failed
  *
  * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
 stack if relevant.
  * A complete build log is located at
 '/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/temp/build.log'.
  * The ebuild environment file is located at
 '/var/tmp/portage/dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12/temp/environment'.
  *
 ...

 The following gcc is installed:

 sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2  USE=doc fortran gcj gtk ip28 ip32r10k mudflap
 multislot nls objc objc++ objc-gc (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -d
 (-hardened) -libffi (-multilib) (-n32) (-n64) -nocxx -test -vanilla

 Some information about the system:

 CPU: Intel P4D Processor Family 15
 Gentoo: AMD64

 CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

 Kernel: gentoo 2.6.24-r3

 If any further information is needed to solve the problem i'll be
 glad to provide it. Thank you a lot in advance.

 cu
 Max



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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-22 Thread Grant
 A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
 the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
 problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
 replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?
  

  As strange as this may sound, we had a server go down and we thought
  psu/mb. it turned out to be the cmos battery. We replaced it (about four
  years ago), the server has been flawless since.

Different motherboards must exhibit different behavior with a bad CMOS
battery.  Another desktop of mine prints an error to the POST screen
about its bad battery.  There is a comment here from another owner of
my MSI motherboard:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127597/show_product_reviews

This is a great board too, except i got an error each boot-turns out
the battery was dead, swapped it and it was ok

It sounds like my motherboard should still boot with a bad battery.

- Grant

  Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Power supply or motherboard dead?

2008-03-22 Thread Dale

Grant wrote:

A Gentoo desktop of mine won't turn on anymore.  I was hoping it was
the power supply but I've installed a new one which doesn't fix the
problem.  Is there a sure way to know if the motherboard needs
replacement or if I have two dead power supplies?
 

 As strange as this may sound, we had a server go down and we thought
 psu/mb. it turned out to be the cmos battery. We replaced it (about four
 years ago), the server has been flawless since.



Different motherboards must exhibit different behavior with a bad CMOS
battery.  Another desktop of mine prints an error to the POST screen
about its bad battery.  There is a comment here from another owner of
my MSI motherboard:

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127597/show_product_reviews

This is a great board too, except i got an error each boot-turns out
the battery was dead, swapped it and it was ok

It sounds like my motherboard should still boot with a bad battery.

- Grant

  

 Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)



I had one with a dead battery too.  It lost all the settings and the 
clock reset back to 1971 or something like that but otherwise it worked 
just fine.  Well, after getting it to see the drives again. 


Weird things happen I guess.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] nVidia GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x - tainted driver 96.43.05 causes X crash sig 11 - Kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r3

2008-03-22 Thread Gregory Shearman
Last week I upgraded the kernel on one of my 5 year old Pentium 4 desktop
machines to 2.6.24-gentoo-r3. Kernel compilation went fine as usual but
when I tried to emerge the current (x86) binary nVidia driver [96.43.01]
for its GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x graphics card it failed with an error
message that the it couldn't determine the kernel version.

The graphics card is around 5-7 years old and won't run on later 1xx.xx.xx
versions of the binary blob, so I'd masked the driver to:

/etc/portage/package.mask/nvidia-drivers

=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.00.00

==

The driver worked fine on the previous kernel 2.6.23-gentoo-r9. The solution
was to do what I've always done for binary blobs (nvidia,ati,madwifi-ng
etc) and add:

/etc/portage/package.keywords

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~86

==

This allowed me to go from 96.43.01 to 96.43.05.

Unfortunately, even though the driver compiled fine and started without
error this driver proved to be unstable on my machine and graphics
hardware. X (1.3.0-r5) failed on KDE logout with:

/etc/var/log/Xorg.0.log:

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x85) [0x80c7c57]
1: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so(_nv001216X+0xe5)
[0xb71d6711]
2: [0x1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

===

Maybe running the uvesafb framebuffer and fbcondecor (livecd-2007.0 theme)
has something to do with the sigsegv problems on just this particular
driver version but I knew that I couldn't run this driver.

I did a bit of research and found an ugly hack to get the 96.43.01 driver
working on kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r3 so I changed the mask to:

/etc/portage/package.mask/nvidia-drivers

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-96.43.01

=

I then worked the dark magic:

# ln -s  /usr/src/linux/include/asm-x86 /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386

(/usr/src/linux points to the new kernel 2.6.24-gentoo-r3)

==

I reemerged nvidia-drivers and the hack worked. I got the reliable 96.43.01
driver working again, though with some concerns about future reliability.
There might be other changes within the kernel 2.6.24 that driver 96.43.01
doesn't know about that could cause me some grief in the future, but for
now it works fine. 

Now a week later I find that portage has released the nvidia binary driver
96.43.05 as stable on x86. I allowed it to emerge, but it still had the X
killing problem when logging out of KDE.

Some of the things I've read suggest nvidia have been informed of this
specific problem but I was wondering if there's any more information around
about this issue? I know the card is getting old and perhaps I should use
the open nv driver, but the card usually works really well with the binary
blob.

I would also like to know if these problems were known to the Gentoo devs
when they released 96.43.05 as stable on x86.

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[gentoo-user] Slim DM and shutdown

2008-03-22 Thread Galevsky
Hi,

I am running the display manager slim and I would like to know if it
is possible to get a reboot/shutdown button instead of typing 'halt'
as the login and the root password. Perhaps with a custom theme ?

Thks,

Gal'
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?

2008-03-22 Thread Neil Walker

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

price/performance still favours AMD.
  


How on earth do you justify that statement? I am an AMD fan and have 
been since the 486/133 (was a Cyrix fan before then) but I can certainly 
tell you that the performance of the Intel Q6600 makes the AMD Phenom 
7600 look decidedly  pathetic and the Intel is cheaper - at least where 
I shop. I have both so I am talking from practical experience. I have an 
AMD Phenom 7500 sitting on the floor behind me which isn't even worth 
sticking in a motherboard. Another Intel Q6600 arrives on Tuesday. I 
really hope AMD get their lead back but they are struggling at the 
moment. :(



Be lucky,

Neil


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo router: Conntrack table full

2008-03-22 Thread Dan Cowsill
Hi folks,

Today I had some really serious problems with my Gentoo router.  I
could ping it, and all the network connections were in place and
functional, but no outside access.  I looked into it and found that
the syslog was flooded with this:


Mar 22 21:25:55 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet.
Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: printk: 11 messages suppressed.
Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet.
Mar 22 21:26:05 localhost kernel: printk: 16 messages suppressed.


These messages spanned a full 20 hours of the log.  I understand that
conntrack is the connection tracking system that iptables uses.  I
also understand that its maximum is something on the order of 65000
simultaneous connections.  For a simple home network, I think we can
agree that I would probably never approach this number of connections
with normal use.

So my question is this:  what could have caused the router's
connection tracker to overflow?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo router: Conntrack table full

2008-03-22 Thread Andrey Falko
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

  Today I had some really serious problems with my Gentoo router.  I
  could ping it, and all the network connections were in place and
  functional, but no outside access.  I looked into it and found that
  the syslog was flooded with this:


  Mar 22 21:25:55 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet.
  Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: printk: 11 messages suppressed.
  Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet.
  Mar 22 21:26:05 localhost kernel: printk: 16 messages suppressed.


  These messages spanned a full 20 hours of the log.  I understand that
  conntrack is the connection tracking system that iptables uses.  I
  also understand that its maximum is something on the order of 65000
  simultaneous connections.  For a simple home network, I think we can
  agree that I would probably never approach this number of connections
  with normal use.

  So my question is this:  what could have caused the router's
  connection tracker to overflow?
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What type of 'net services do you run between your home network and
the outside? Is there a possibility that someone out have put a denial
of service attack on you?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo router: Conntrack table full

2008-03-22 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
Today I had some really serious problems with my Gentoo router.  I
could ping it, and all the network connections were in place and
functional, but no outside access.  I looked into it and found that
the syslog was flooded with this:
  
  
Mar 22 21:25:55 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping 
 packet.
Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: printk: 11 messages suppressed.
Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping 
 packet.
Mar 22 21:26:05 localhost kernel: printk: 16 messages suppressed.
  
  
These messages spanned a full 20 hours of the log.  I understand that
conntrack is the connection tracking system that iptables uses.  I
also understand that its maximum is something on the order of 65000
simultaneous connections.  For a simple home network, I think we can
agree that I would probably never approach this number of connections
with normal use.
  
So my question is this:  what could have caused the router's
connection tracker to overflow?
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  What type of 'net services do you run between your home network and
  the outside? Is there a possibility that someone out have put a denial
  of service attack on you?
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I have SSH to a server, two open ports for bit torrent connections and
a few ranges for DCC transfers from irc.

The possibility of a DoS attack is pretty real, I imagine.  Is there
any way I could be sure?

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