Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions of /etc/sudoers
Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 14:15:35 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Heiko Wundram wrote: Am Montag 09 Februar 2009 13:37:31 schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Stroller wrote: I install sudo, give my user wide sudo rights and then set PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. (Critique of this measure welcomed). Since Hung already answered about the other problem, I'll just comment on this. It's a bad idea if the machine is open to the Internet, especially since it's easy to simply su - or sudo as a normal user. ... Er, didn't I actually say the same? If other people have network access to the machine, disable root. You misunderstood something. Err, no, you didn't say the same, at least not considering your quote (I didn't read the OP): Reading the above, you said that PermitRootLogin no is a bad idea (i.e., disabling root login via SSH is a bad idea), whereas I said the exact opposite (and you meant the exact opposite). But, as you meant the same as me, forget what I said or just take my rant as a clarification of your point. ;-) -- Heiko Wundram Gehrkens.IT GmbH FON 0511-59027953 | http://www.gehrkens.it FAX 0511-59027957 | http://www.xencon.net Gehrkens.IT GmbH Strasse der Nationen 5 30539 Hannover Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hannover, HRB 200551 Geschäftsführer: Harald Gehrkens, Daniel Netzer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:50:04 +0100 Johan Blåbäck johan.bluecr...@gmail.com wrote: I had noticed this problem w/ my laptop where some usbdevices dont show up until a few seconds later than when the init is running. So I added a 'sleep 10' to the init, and what I got was - - 10 s sleep - - during these I get a messege: sda: sda1 sda2 (this is the bootable usb-key) - - cryptsetup segfaults - - ls -l /dev/sd* gives 'ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory' - - ls -l DEv/hd* gives '/dev/hda1' How is this possible? Shouldn't it show sda, sda1 and sda2 together with hda and hda1? Why are these missing? Why should it? Do you have full-fledged udev on initrd? I've always created them by hand with mknod or just copied from a working system - you know which ones you'll need, anyway. And I've had segfaults with usb hdd too, as I recall, but if you put cryptsetup in a 'while true' loop it'll prompt for passphrase / mount device as soon as it'll be detected. True. I forgot that I just created the hda1 node. I figured it out anyway. What I was missing was some IDE options in the kernel. Thanks for the help all. - -- For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmROPgACgkQ82oqndqg+437rACcCq0Usa21m4Cmndpp1b7+xPki MKMAniVr+1GS5ZTCa9JqrvHja8O4xxV1 =OrNi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE4.2 compile problem
Dirk Uys wrote: But when I try to start KDE4.2 (using kdm), the screen blanks out a few times while kde is loading (the spash screen being displayed) and then I briefly see a malformed desktop (the bottom of the taskbar wraps around to the top of the screen) and then just a black screen. In /var/log/messages, something about plasma crashing is reported, can't remember and I'm not at the PC now, but nothing very informative. The screen flashes are an indication of trying to enable desktop effects (compositing.) I think KDE 4.2.0 tries to enable them by default, but it seems the auto-detection of your graphics card's capabilities is failing. Would be good if you can file a bug report about on bugs.kde.org.
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
On 10 Feb 2009, at 04:59, Saphirus Sage wrote: ... I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them. Canonical is Ubuntu. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Sandbox Violation
Hi everyone, recently I killed a running merge of app-emacs/auctex with C-c in the shell. Now after that I am not able to install the package anymore. I get a sandbox when kpathsea is run. Hints anybody ? Thanks. Here's a snippet of the build log: kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 cmtt9 ACCESS DENIED mkdir: /var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm mkdir: cannot create directory `././var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm': Permission denied mktexpk: /usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexdir /var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm failed. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. (see the transcript file for additional information) !pdfTeX error: /usr/bin/pdflatex (file cmtt9): Font cmtt9 at 600 not found == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced! make[2]: *** [preview.pdf] Error 70 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emacs/auctex-11.85/work/auctex-11.85/preview/latex' make[1]: *** [texmf] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-emacs/auctex-11.85/work/auctex-11.85/preview' make: *** [all] Error 2 * * ERROR: app-emacs/auctex-11.85 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile * environment, line 2860: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * emake || die emake failed; * The die message: * emake failed * * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. * A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-emacs/auctex-11.85/temp/build.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/app-emacs/auctex-11.85/temp/environment'. * --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY --- LOG FILE /var/log/sandbox/sandbox-8791.log VERSION 1.0 FORMAT: F - Function called FORMAT: S - Access Status FORMAT: P - Path as passed to function FORMAT: A - Absolute Path (not canonical) FORMAT: R - Canonical Path FORMAT: C - Command Line F: mkdir S: deny P: ././var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm A: /var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm R: /var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm C: mkdir ././var/cache/fonts/pk/ljfour/public/cm -- Thomas Kahle The fundamental theorem of algebra is open source. Like any other mathematical theorem it can be applied free of charge and everybody has access to its proof and can convince himself how it works. Why should software be any different? pgpmU5pZnzUHl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey helper apps
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, I use to listen to my voice mail, via mplayer and seamonkey. I setup mplayer to play voice-message.wav and it (use to) worked beautifully. Now I cannot get it to work. Any suggestion as to a simple app. I can set up as a helper application in seamonkey to play .wav files? The file command tells me this about the voice-message.wav file sent to me from vonage: file voice-message.wav voice-message.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, ITU G.711 mu-law, mono 8000 Hz ideas? James I also have Vonage and use Seamonkey and everything is working okay for me. I'm using the gecko-mediaplayer plugin, but opening with gmplayer or something works too. Paul
[gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox Violation
Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi everyone, recently I killed a running merge of app-emacs/auctex with C-c in the shell. Now after that I am not able to install the package anymore. I get a sandbox when kpathsea is run. Just a shot in the dark, but try this as root: rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* and then emerge again. Please type the above command very carefully; if you introduce a space by mistake it will be not good :P
[gentoo-user] How to check a terminal session remotely
Here's my problem, lets say last night I start a rather long emerge in an xterm window or in a separate session like Ctrl+Alt+F2 or whatever. The next day I'm at work or a friends house and I ssh into my desktop so I can check on the status of that emerge. Is their a way for me to take over a session and see what's going on through the terminal? I'm sure this is something simple, but so far google hasn't been much help since I really don't know what key words to search for. --James
Re: [gentoo-user] How to check a terminal session remotely
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:29:38 -0500, James Stull wrote: Here's my problem, lets say last night I start a rather long emerge in an xterm window or in a separate session like Ctrl+Alt+F2 or whatever. The next day I'm at work or a friends house and I ssh into my desktop so I can check on the status of that emerge. Is their a way for me to take over a session and see what's going on through the terminal? The best way to do this is to run the emerge in a screen session, then you can do screen -r from the SSH session to see what's going on. If you have already started the emerge from a normal terminal, you can view the progress with genlop -c. Emerge genlop if you don't already have it. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as he was given another bad script. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sandbox Violation
On 17:16 Tue 10 Feb , Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi everyone, recently I killed a running merge of app-emacs/auctex with C-c in the shell. Now after that I am not able to install the package anymore. I get a sandbox when kpathsea is run. Just a shot in the dark, but try this as root: rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/* and then emerge again. Please type the above command very carefully; if you introduce a space by mistake it will be not good :P That worked, Thanks. -- Thomas Kahle The fundamental theorem of algebra is open source. Like any other mathematical theorem it can be applied free of charge and everybody has access to its proof and can convince himself how it works. Why should software be any different? pgpXcNAZ4H7rk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Segfaulting cryptsetup in init
Johan Blåbäck schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, I'm setting up this old computer of mine and why not encrypt it. I have done this on several computers before, but never have I gotten these kind of errors. When booting, cryptsetup segfaults. I can find no obvious reason why, I have tried to recompile cryptsetup using different arch, but still the same. It is build statically, USE=-dynamic is set and ldd just says no dynamic executable. But when trying to debug I copied the cryptsetup, that is not working in the init, to a usb-device and tried to decrypt my disk using a livecd, and this went fine. So to summarize: init - cryptsetup segfaults in livecd env - cryptsetup ok in gentoo system - cryptsetup ok I'm not sure whether it was cryptsetup or gpg who had trouble but I seem to need these lines in my initrd to get things going: rm /dev/tty ln -s /dev/console /dev/tty
[gentoo-user] Help With pptpclient
I'm trying to connect to a Cisco 3650 VPN Concentrator at work. On Windows clients, I use the included dialup networking client and connect without issue using pptp. This is not a L2TP/IPSEC VPN. I want to do the same on a Gentoo client. I've Googled and found that pptpclient should do what I want. I've followed this guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_VPN_client_setup_with_pptpclient I've also come across other guides that are very similar to the one above. After following the guide, I am still unable to connect. I see the following in /var/log/messages: (Please note that I have replaced the actual IP address with IP Address) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: pppd options in effect: Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: debug # (from command line) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: nodetach # (from command line) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: logfd 2# (from command line) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: dump # (from command line) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: noauth # (from /etc/ppp/peers/d ca) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: name username # (from /etc/ppp /peers/dca) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: remotename IP Address # (from /etc/ppp/peers/dca) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]:# (from /etc/ppp/options.pptp) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: pty pptp IP Address --nolaunchpppd --log level 2 # (from /etc/ppp/peers/vpn) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: ipparam IP Address # (from /etc/ppp/peers/dca) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: nobsdcomp # (from /etc/ppp/options.pptp) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: nodeflate # (from /etc/ppp/options.pptp) Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: pppd 2.4.4 started by tomlinson_dr, uid 0 Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: using channel 12 Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pppd[7781]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/3 Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pptp[7782]: anon log[main:pptp.c:272]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pptp[7786]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request' Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pptp[7786]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:543]: read returned zero, peer has closed Feb 10 08:34:05 tagalong pptp[7786]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:543]: read returned zero, peer has closed Feb 10 08:34:06 tagalong pppd[7781]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0x550c0689 pcomp accomp] Feb 10 08:34:06 tagalong pptp[7788]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request' Feb 10 08:34:06 tagalong pptp[7788]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:543]: read returned zero, peer has closed Feb 10 08:34:06 tagalong pptp[7788]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:543]: read returned zero, peer has closed Feb 10 08:34:07 tagalong pptp[7790]: anon log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request' Feb 10 08:34:07 tagalong pptp[7790]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:543]: read returned zero, peer has closed Feb 10 08:34:07 tagalong pptp[7790]: anon log[pptp_read_some:pptp_ctrl.c:543]: read returned zero, peer has closed Feb 10 08:34:08 tagalong pptp[7782]: anon fatal[open_callmgr:pptp.c:439]: Could not launch call manager after 3 tries. Feb 10 08:34:08 tagalong pppd[7781]: Modem hangup Feb 10 08:34:08 tagalong pppd[7781]: Connection terminated. Feb 10 08:34:08 tagalong pppd[7781]: Script pptp IP Address --nolaunchpppd --loglevel 2 finished (pid 7782), status = 0x1 Feb 10 08:34:08 tagalong pppd[7781]: Exit. Here are the contents of my /etc/ppp/chap-secrets: # Secrets for authentication using CHAP # clientserver secret IP addresses #\'\' * \'\' usernameIP Address password * And finally, my connect script from /etc/ppp/peers/vpn: pty pptp IP Address --nolaunchpppd --loglevel 2 name username remotename IP address file /etc/ppp/options.pptp noauth ipparam IP Address Any ideas on what I'm missing? I've been at this for two days but can not figure out my errors. In cases where the guide indicates using a VPN server name, I have tried with both a made up (but common) server name and the actual IP address as this VPN server does not have a resolvable name. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Help With pptpclient -- SOLVED
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm trying to connect to a Cisco 3650 VPN Concentrator at work. On Windows clients, I use the included dialup networking client and connect without issue using pptp. This is not a L2TP/IPSEC VPN. I want to do the same on a Gentoo client. I've Googled and found that pptpclient should do what I want. I've followed this guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Microsoft_VPN_client_setup_with_pptpclient snip Any ideas on what I'm missing? I've been at this for two days but can not figure out my errors. In cases where the guide indicates using a VPN server name, I have tried with both a made up (but common) server name and the actual IP address as this VPN server does not have a resolvable name. Never mind. I found the problem. The VPN concentrator still had a connection registered for my IP address. Once that was cleared, I was able to connect. Sorry for the noise. Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com
[gentoo-user] Re: seamonkey helper apps
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I also have Vonage and use Seamonkey and everything is working okay for me. I'm using the gecko-mediaplayer plugin, but opening with gmplayer or something works too. Well here's my 'helper applications' entry Maybe a syntax error? Helper Applications voice-message/wav MIMI Type voice-message/wav Extension wav Open it with /usr/bin/mplayer no quotes The baffling things is I can use this string in my seamonkey browser to play the saved audio clip; it plays just fine, using mplayer or amarok: file:///home/path/voice-message.wav I can use aplay path/filename and some wav files play ( aplay close.wav Playing WAVE 'close.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono) and some don't, like my voice mails: (aplay voice-message.wav aplay: test_wavefile:782: can't play WAVE-file format 0x0007 which is not PCM or FLOAT encoded) Not sure if this matters...? So it's got to be a seamonkey mis-config? Here's my Seamonkey flags: (crypt gnome ipv6 java ldap mozdevelop postgres) KDE is the destop. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 23:26:46 schrieb Stroller: Am I not correct in thinking that initramfs used to be / can be / was originally a separate file which goes in /boot and is described with an extra boot parameter? Yes, you are. There are several ways nowadays. I use the easy one: Populate a directory tree with the contents of the initramfs and configure that directory in menuconfig. The kernel build system handles the details. I wasn't aware that you could embed the initramfs into the kernel itself - after reading Neil's message yesterday I looked up more about the initramfs, contemplated about the idea of doing so and decided naw, you'll never be able to do that, it would make the kernel too big and take up too much memory. Nope. It's freed right after swithing to the real root fs. I certainly can recognise that you're doing something bogus, because your kernel parameters use realroot= and not just root= Luckily the kernel ignores everything it doesn't know so you can give it any option you like. In this case I use realroot inside initramfs to tell it (by parsing /proc/cmdline) what's the real volume for the encrypted root device (/dev/mapper/c-root) listed in fstab. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: seamonkey helper apps
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I also have Vonage and use Seamonkey and everything is working okay for me. I'm using the gecko-mediaplayer plugin, but opening with gmplayer or something works too. Well here's my 'helper applications' entry Maybe a syntax error? Helper Applications voice-message/wav MIMI Type voice-message/wav Extension wav Open it with /usr/bin/mplayer no quotes The baffling things is I can use this string in my seamonkey browser to play the saved audio clip; it plays just fine, using mplayer or amarok: file:///home/path/voice-message.wav I can use aplay path/filename and some wav files play ( aplay close.wav Playing WAVE 'close.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono) and some don't, like my voice mails: (aplay voice-message.wav aplay: test_wavefile:782: can't play WAVE-file format 0x0007 which is not PCM or FLOAT encoded) Not sure if this matters...? So it's got to be a seamonkey mis-config? Here's my Seamonkey flags: (crypt gnome ipv6 java ldap mozdevelop postgres) KDE is the destop. I don't have it set up as a helper. It just pops up the What would you like to do? dialog and I choose to open it with /usr/bin/gmplayer Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA config problem
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 07:02:16 Sebastian Günther wrote: * Naga (nagat...@gmail.com) [09.02.09 19:35]: In the 2.6.28 kernel alsa is broken for hda-intel. Either use 2.6.27 series kernel or use a live alsa ebuild. Why can I listen to music and watch DVD with my hda-intel, if it's broken? Guess it's only broken for certain cards then? /Regards Naga
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} xfce4 network management?
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Francesco Talamona wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2009, Grant wrote: Why choose wicd over NetworkManager? Hi guys I'm back with a differend mail address, hope someone missed me :-) I tested both, but NM keeps shutting down wired NIC randomly, sometimes is eth0, other times is eth1. eth0 and ath0 are connected to the same access point, so it is sane to inhibite eth0, but I have hundred services relying on eth1 (fixed IP, internal network), half my system go upside down when eth1 lose its address. I don't want NM to touch this interface, even it is unplugged. Is it there a way to fix this? With wicd is trivial to pair eth0 and ath0, but it runs wireless for a few minutes, then it switches back to wired. So I'm going to try wpa_gui... Cheers Francesco An the winner is... wicd. The uptime was quite regular, so it came to my mind the DHCP client demon. It was the DHCP indeed, instead of automatic (that picks up dhclient) I switched to dhcpcd and now works like a charm Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.28-gentoo, Compiled #2 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 26 08:55:48 CET 2008 Two 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processors, 4GB RAM, 4018.02 Bogomips Total aemaeth
Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey helper apps
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:31:41AM +, Penguin Lover James squawked: file voice-message.wav voice-message.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, ITU G.711 mu-law, mono 8000 Hz On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 05:34:06PM +, Penguin Lover James squawked: and some don't, like my voice mails: (aplay voice-message.wav aplay: test_wavefile:782: can't play WAVE-file format 0x0007 which is not PCM or FLOAT encoded) Not sure if this matters...? Have you tried aplay with manually specified format options? aplay -f MU_LAW -c1 -r8000 -t wav voice-message.wav Is it possible that the wav files are corrupted? (Do you have just one sample or multiple?) W -- Where do you get Mercury? H.G. Wells Sortir en Pantoufles: up 795 days, 17:25
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem
On Monday 09 February 2009, James wrote: Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: On my new install using 2.6.28-gentoo-r1, alsa kernel, sound as modules (recommended), [snip...] * enable alsa in the kernel * enable as modules device drivers/sound card support/... [snip...] I appreciate these steps and refs I'm good for now. As was suggested above you may get better luck building the alsa drivers as modules. Although I had my sound card driver built in the kernel for the last 2-3 years, I had to revert to building it as a module to get it to work with kernel 2.6.27-gentoo-r6/8. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Joshua D Doll wrote: Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them. This video brought up an interesting question by my friend (an ubuntu user). How would one go about getting Canonical or the ubuntu community to change their practice of not contributing fixes back upstream? Without having to change distributions. Gentoo involves you more with what goes bad under the bonnet and the average Gentoo user is more interested in the workings of their OS to attempt troubleshooting it and filing bugs. Your average Ubuntu user is less likely to get their hands dirty, unless they are a dev. So, essentially we are talking about different user profiles here. To answer your friend's hypothetical question - he would either have to change your average Ubuntu's user technical aptitude, or change the user. Either attempt may mean the end of Ubuntu as we know it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey helper apps
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, James wrote: Hello, I use to listen to my voice mail, via mplayer and seamonkey. I would have thought that mplayer is a bit of an overkill for playing .wav, have you tried /usr/bin/aplay? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On Monday 09 February 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 17:51:24 schrieb Stroller: I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. Errh, which longer lines in grub.conf? Here's mine, as an example: title=Gentoo Linux kernel /vmlinux.gz realroot=/dev/evms/root vga=0x31B notsc Quite short and simple, isn't it? You don't even recognize that it uses an initramfs (because it's embedded in the kernel itself). How do you embed the initramfs in the kernel? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Using root=LABEL=xxxx in grub.conf
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 18:46 +, Mick wrote: On Monday 09 February 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag, 9. Februar 2009 17:51:24 schrieb Stroller: I don't like initrd and the longer kernel lines in grub.conf that they require. Errh, which longer lines in grub.conf? Here's mine, as an example: title=Gentoo Linux kernel /vmlinux.gz realroot=/dev/evms/root vga=0x31B notsc Quite short and simple, isn't it? You don't even recognize that it uses an initramfs (because it's embedded in the kernel itself). How do you embed the initramfs in the kernel? CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ALSA config problem
Mick wrote: On Monday 09 February 2009, James wrote: Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: On my new install using 2.6.28-gentoo-r1, alsa kernel, sound as modules (recommended), [snip...] * enable alsa in the kernel * enable as modules device drivers/sound card support/... [snip...] I appreciate these steps and refs I'm good for now. As was suggested above you may get better luck building the alsa drivers as modules. Although I had my sound card driver built in the kernel for the last 2-3 years, I had to revert to building it as a module to get it to work with kernel 2.6.27-gentoo-r6/8. The main reason for building the sound drivers as modules is so that alsaconf can find and setup your sound card for you.
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Joshua D Doll wrote: Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them. This video brought up an interesting question by my friend (an ubuntu user). How would one go about getting Canonical or the ubuntu community to change their practice of not contributing fixes back upstream? Without having to change distributions. Gentoo involves you more with what goes bad under the bonnet and the average Gentoo user is more interested in the workings of their OS to attempt troubleshooting it and filing bugs. Your average Ubuntu user is less likely to get their hands dirty, unless they are a dev. So, essentially we are talking about different user profiles here. To answer your friend's hypothetical question - he would either have to change your average Ubuntu's user technical aptitude, or change the user. Either attempt may mean the end of Ubuntu as we know it. The ubuntus are targeted at disgruntled windows users while gentoo is targeted at unix users. The former are used to complaining and getting no response while the later know it's their responsibility to help make it better... Have fun, Roy
[gentoo-user] Re: The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
Roy Wright wrote: [...] The ubuntus are targeted at disgruntled windows users while gentoo is targeted at unix users. The former are used to complaining and getting no response while the later know it's their responsibility to help make it better... Works for me. ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
Roy Wright wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Joshua D Doll wrote: Saphirus Sage wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/video/1069 I found it quite interesting that even Gentoo beat Canonical in the amount of patches contributed upstream... Good find, I actually didn't know about E-Trade using Gentoo servers. I don't think it should be too surprising that Gentoo would contribute more patches than Conical, as until today, I'd only actually heard of one of them. This video brought up an interesting question by my friend (an ubuntu user). How would one go about getting Canonical or the ubuntu community to change their practice of not contributing fixes back upstream? Without having to change distributions. Gentoo involves you more with what goes bad under the bonnet and the average Gentoo user is more interested in the workings of their OS to attempt troubleshooting it and filing bugs. Your average Ubuntu user is less likely to get their hands dirty, unless they are a dev. So, essentially we are talking about different user profiles here. To answer your friend's hypothetical question - he would either have to change your average Ubuntu's user technical aptitude, or change the user. Either attempt may mean the end of Ubuntu as we know it. The ubuntus are targeted at disgruntled windows users while gentoo is targeted at unix users. The former are used to complaining and getting no response while the later know it's their responsibility to help make it better... Have fun, Roy I think you may be right with your assessment there Roy. The only solution I could up with was to change distributions he didn't like that suggestion, not sure why, because changing distros is like changing underwear. Maybe he has some strange fascination with Ubunutu's pretty color scheme? --Joshua Doll //
[gentoo-user] Re: seamonkey helper apps
Willie Wong wwong at Princeton.EDU writes: Have you tried aplay with manually specified format options? aplay -f MU_LAW -c1 -r8000 -t wav voice-message.wav Well that's weird. Only one out of 30 is in that format. It does not play (corrupt) but the other 29 play, just fine with mplayer, aplay, amarok or just using the default seamonkey app (aplay) using this url: file:///home/james/projects/voice-message.wav Is it possible that the wav files are corrupted? (Do you have just one sample or multiple?) No, only one is corrupt. I can play them all sorts of ways. Seamonkey is messed up. When I change the helper app. config. it still launches the old helper application. Exiting Seamonkey and restarting it does not effect changes. I have to exit out of KDE for 'helper app' changes to take effect? I recompile seamonkey with --deep but that has not fixed the problem...
[gentoo-user] Re: seamonkey helper apps
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: I use to listen to my voice mail, via mplayer and seamonkey. I would have thought that mplayer is a bit of an overkill for playing .wav, have you tried /usr/bin/aplay? True but it always worked. Aplay works on command line, but not from Seamonkey James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: seamonkey helper apps
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:34 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I also have Vonage and use Seamonkey and everything is working okay for me. I'm using the gecko-mediaplayer plugin, but opening with gmplayer or something works too. Well here's my 'helper applications' entry Maybe a syntax error? Helper Applications voice-message/wav MIMI Type voice-message/wav Extension wav Open it with /usr/bin/mplayer no quotes The baffling things is I can use this string in my seamonkey browser to play the saved audio clip; it plays just fine, using mplayer or amarok: file:///home/path/voice-message.wav I can use aplay path/filename and some wav files play ( aplay close.wav Playing WAVE 'close.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono) and some don't, like my voice mails: (aplay voice-message.wav aplay: test_wavefile:782: can't play WAVE-file format 0x0007 which is not PCM or FLOAT encoded) Not sure if this matters...? So it's got to be a seamonkey mis-config? Here's my Seamonkey flags: (crypt gnome ipv6 java ldap mozdevelop postgres) KDE is the destop. I don't have it set up as a helper. It just pops up the What would you like to do? dialog and I choose to open it with /usr/bin/gmplayer Paul I was wrong, it is set up. MIME type: audio/x-wav Description: (blank) Extension: wav Open it using /usr/bin/gmplayer [checked] Always ask me before handling files of this type And the same setup for MIME type of audio/wav Regards, Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] The Linux Ecosystem (with funny references to Gentoo vs Canonical)
090210 Roy Wright wrote: The ubuntus are targeted at disgruntled windows users while gentoo is targeted at unix users. The former are used to complaining and getting no response while the later know it's their responsibility to help make it better... In my commonplace book ... (smile) -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] vncviewer Recommendation
Drew Tomlinson wrote: Aaron Clark wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I'm looking for an vncviewer for Linux that has the same features as the Tight VNC viewer on Windows. I really like how the Windows viewer will scale the desktop and remember connections. Also, it's very easy to choose between low and high bandwidth connections with the Windows version. I've installed the TightVNC viewer on my Gentoo box and it does not appear to have any of these features. I'm looking for recommendations. Did you check the version numbers for the two TightVNC clients? You might need to switch to a ~arch version of Tight on Gentoo if the stable version is too old. If you're running Gnome, you could also take a look at Vinagre as a client. It does connection bookmarking, multiple connections on tabs, etc. Thanks to all for the suggestions. My TightVNC on Linux is version 1.3.9 and is from net-misc/tightvnc-1.3.9-r2. As I am using Gnome, I've installed Vinagre and it appears to be what I need. I just wish there was some way to scroll in fullscreen mode. Thanks, Drew this is probably a moot point, but nobody decided to ask. What features was tightvnc missing under GNU/Linux?
