Re: [gentoo-user] screen, screen+byobu, or tmux?
2011/4/17 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info: So, anyone got any experience using screen and screen+byobu and tmux? What's your opinion in general of the three alternatives? tmux seems to be much more actively developed these days. That's my perception at least. A fact is that its codebase is lighter and simpler, and it has been able to do vertical splits for a long time. I don't know if that feature finally merged (in an usable status, I mean) in screen. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
Re: [gentoo-user] win key takes me from X to VT
2011/4/17 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com Hello. I am having this issue since a couple of days ago. When I press the win key (alone) I am taken back to VT, which is quite annoying since I've used win+[123456] to go to the respective virtual desktops for years. I've tried downgrading xorg-server and it didn't work. I've also tried to change mingetty (which I've been using for years as well) by agetty, no change either. If I restart the xdm service (I use kdm) then everything works as expected and I can use the windows key for my bindings. Any idea on where to start looking or how to diagnose this? Thanks everyone. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella Try to reset all shortcuts with: setxkbmap -option Maybe this will help, but not sure. Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] sane-backends
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Michael George geo...@mutualdata.comwrote: I just got a new scanner which will be supported in version 1.0.22 of the sane-backend package. However, that version isn't in portage yet. How do I find who the maintainers of the portage package are so that I can contact them to see if I can help get that port made available? -- -M There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those who can count in binary and those who cannot. You can create your local overlay, and try to upgrade the ebuild to your needs. If it works, you can send your changes as a patch to the maintainers of the package. Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] screen, screen+byobu, or tmux?
On 17/4/2011, at 5:39am, Pandu Poluan wrote: So, anyone got any experience using screen and screen+byobu and tmux? tmux, as discussed here at length in the past. Useful features include [1]. Because tmux is a single server daemon and you can run tmux commands from both inside and outside of it, without needing to go into command mode, you can do useful things like: for host in server1 server2 server3 do tmux new-window -d ssh $host done Then using `tmux synchronize-panes on` you can `emerge -pv world` (or whatever) to all hosts. This is just one example. Maybe you need italics support, or something else instead. tmux is better than screen lots of minor ways, that are cumulatively significant IMO. tmux doesn't need byobu because it's better than screen in the first place, although it does need some customisation, IMO (see attached). If you have a window manager that provides a clock, then having it also in your screen / tmux status line is just a distraction and a waste of space; likewise CPU meters are always so, IMO. Stroller. [1] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=20110417043659.GA10986%40carbon.vonhaugwitz.comforum_name=tmux-users tmux.conf Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: consolekit won't start
On Saturday 16 April 2011 19:36:13 David W Noon wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 19:00:02 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: consolekit won't start: On Saturday 16 April 2011 17:27:14 David W Noon wrote: [snip] Consolekit does not like starting when there are already several daemon processes running. So, you should add it to the *boot* run level, thus allowing it an early appearance. Thanks David. It now seems to start fine at the default run level - as recommended here: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KDE4#KDM_.26_ConsoleKit About a year ago, I had all kinds of problems with consolekit refusing to start from the default run level. Hence, I moved it to boot and all has been well since then. I see ... good to know if it starts playing difficult. Thanks for sharing. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: GCC 4.5.2 won't merge
On 04/16/2011 10:00 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: I got a new gentoo VPS. Everything installed fine, and also upgraded, except gcc. The gcc I have on the server is 4.4.5 which I'm trying to upgrade to 4.5.2 I get the error: Unable to determine suffix for object files. The build log refers to 'config.log' for details. That's probably where the real error message is.
Re: [gentoo-user] sane-backends
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 18:26:38 -0500, Dale wrote: Some put them in the overlay to test then move them over to the tree a bit later if there are no problems or weird dependency problems. I think there is a fancy command to get that info but can't recall it at the moment. I bet someone will post it tho. ;-) eix-remote update Run this after an emerge --sync eix-update and eix will index the overlays you don't use as well as the ones you do. -- Neil Bothwick Bad dog! Leave that wire alone.click.###@*##NO TERRIER signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] I'm up, at long last!
Hi, Gentoo. After a few weeks of effort, I've just gone live with my very own Gentoo system. :-) The last stage was copying most of my files over from my old box, which involved a significant degree of screwing the disk drives. It is such a relief to say goodbye to my ancient Debian system, which no longer had a functioning package system. Also, my ten year old hardware was feeling ever more underpowered as time went by. Installing and configuring Gentoo was significantly easier than Debian, even though it took about the same amount of time. The approach insert the DVD, press the button, and everything will work OK is fine, until something _doesn't_ work OK; then you've got several hours (or days) of tedious searching for the answer. By contrast, with Gentoo's 41 pages of detailed instructions, you really can't go far wrong. And at the end of it, there's further detailed documentation to get X and window manager etc. set up. I think there's really only two ways to install Linux: you either go the Ubuntu route, where everything's done for you and you accept somebody else's defaults, or you go with Gentoo, where you do everything yourself. I think anything in the middle, like Debian, just leads to confusion and uncertainty. I don't know where Fedora and SuSE fit into all this. Anyhow, I'm now up and running, with some installation and config still to do: things like how to get British English and German keyboard layouts in XFCE, how to make it's terminal have a black background and things like that. I also need to find a decent PDF viewer, and a decent jpeg viewer. So, thanks for all the help, everybody! -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] I'm up, at long last!
On Apr 17, 2011 10:40 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, Gentoo. After a few weeks of effort, I've just gone live with my very own Gentoo system. :-) The last stage was copying most of my files over from my old box, which involved a significant degree of screwing the disk drives. It is such a relief to say goodbye to my ancient Debian system, which no longer had a functioning package system. Also, my ten year old hardware was feeling ever more underpowered as time went by. Installing and configuring Gentoo was significantly easier than Debian, even though it took about the same amount of time. The approach insert the DVD, press the button, and everything will work OK is fine, until something _doesn't_ work OK; then you've got several hours (or days) of tedious searching for the answer. By contrast, with Gentoo's 41 pages of detailed instructions, you really can't go far wrong. And at the end of it, there's further detailed documentation to get X and window manager etc. set up. I think there's really only two ways to install Linux: you either go the Ubuntu route, where everything's done for you and you accept somebody else's defaults, or you go with Gentoo, where you do everything yourself. I think anything in the middle, like Debian, just leads to confusion and uncertainty. I don't know where Fedora and SuSE fit into all this. Anyhow, I'm now up and running, with some installation and config still to do: things like how to get British English and German keyboard layouts in XFCE, how to make it's terminal have a black background and things like that. I also need to find a decent PDF viewer, and a decent jpeg viewer. So, thanks for all the help, everybody! -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). I recommend xpdf for the PDF viewer James Wall
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LibreOffice + GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed
On 15 April 2011 16:08, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:37:50 -0700, walt wrote: You can try re-emerging dbus-glib if you haven't already done it. This whole glib-dbus thing is a red herring. That error was caused by trying to run LO as root, without an available dbus session. It has nothing to do with the fact that LO won't run as a user. -- Neil Bothwick Barth's Distinction: There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, and those who don't. Hello, This error: GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed That is caused by trying to run libreoffice as root (from terminal) I know. But, trying as a normal user, isn't working and I dont have any clue about what is making this problem, there is no log or error to trace. So, I've unistalled libreoffice, and installed again, but... Isn't working yet... I'm not really sure what's this problem, since I don't have any clue or any idea to trace this error. Again, as I said before, I know that I can't run libreoffice as root (from console), but I've tried as normal user, and clicking at the icon... And no luck, no error, no logs, no trace, no clue. -- Carlos Sura.-
[gentoo-user] Re: LibreOffice + GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed
On 04/17/2011 11:38 AM, Carlos Sura wrote: But, trying as a normal user, isn't working and I dont have any clue about what is making this problem, there is no log or error to trace. So, I've unistalled libreoffice, and installed again, but... Isn't working yet... I'm not really sure what's this problem, since I don't have any clue or any idea to trace this error. Try strace this way (as normal user): $strace -f -o outputfile /usr/bin/libreoffice The -f flag allows strace to follow as the shell-script starts the real binary executable. Look through 'outputfile' for messages that look fatal :)
Re: [gentoo-user] win key takes me from X to VT
El día 18 de abril de 2011 00:01, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella jesus.guerrero.bote...@gmail.com escribió: Try to reset all shortcuts with: setxkbmap -option It doesn't change anything. The problem starts in kdm, before loging in, so it's nothing specific to a given user account. Oh, I forgot, it is nothing specific to kdm either. What I meant above is that it happens since I enter X. Or rather, since this is the default behavior in the console, we could more correctly say that it *continues* happening when I enter X, where it should not happen. I tested the lxde login manager and it has the same problem. -- Jesús Guerrero Botella
Re: [gentoo-user] I'm up, at long last!
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, Gentoo. After a few weeks of effort, I've just gone live with my very own Gentoo system. :-) The last stage was copying most of my files over from my old box, which involved a significant degree of screwing the disk drives. It is such a relief to say goodbye to my ancient Debian system, which no longer had a functioning package system. Also, my ten year old hardware was feeling ever more underpowered as time went by. Installing and configuring Gentoo was significantly easier than Debian, even though it took about the same amount of time. The approach insert the DVD, press the button, and everything will work OK is fine, until something _doesn't_ work OK; then you've got several hours (or days) of tedious searching for the answer. By contrast, with Gentoo's 41 pages of detailed instructions, you really can't go far wrong. And at the end of it, there's further detailed documentation to get X and window manager etc. set up. I think there's really only two ways to install Linux: you either go the Ubuntu route, where everything's done for you and you accept somebody else's defaults, or you go with Gentoo, where you do everything yourself. I think anything in the middle, like Debian, just leads to confusion and uncertainty. I don't know where Fedora and SuSE fit into all this. Anyhow, I'm now up and running, with some installation and config still to do: things like how to get British English and German keyboard layouts in XFCE, how to make it's terminal have a black background and things like that. I also need to find a decent PDF viewer, and a decent jpeg viewer. So, thanks for all the help, everybody! -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). Gentoo has it's places, but at the end of the day, I just want my desktop system to work with little effort on my part. And be consistent. Ubuntu gives me that on a desktop -- well, it did, until they decided to switch to Unity. But that's another topic... For everything else (re: servers), there's Gentoo :) I run a Gentoo VPS for a website. I love the flexibility of Gentoo, the speed, the nothingness you start with and have to mold it together like you would an artist with a block of clay.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LibreOffice + GLib-GIO:ERROR:gdbusconnection.c:2279:initable_init: assertion failed
On 17 April 2011 16:14, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/17/2011 11:38 AM, Carlos Sura wrote: But, trying as a normal user, isn't working and I dont have any clue about what is making this problem, there is no log or error to trace. So, I've unistalled libreoffice, and installed again, but... Isn't working yet... I'm not really sure what's this problem, since I don't have any clue or any idea to trace this error. Try strace this way (as normal user): $strace -f -o outputfile /usr/bin/libreoffice The -f flag allows strace to follow as the shell-script starts the real binary executable. Look through 'outputfile' for messages that look fatal :) Hello Walt, thank you for your answer This is the paste: http://tinypaste.com/dde0e1 Maybe someone can help me... I'm looking right now for errors. -- Carlos Sura.-
Re: [gentoo-user] are cgroups automatic ?
110411 Bill Longman wrote: On 04/11/2011 08:13 AM, Philip Webb wrote: I have enabled cgroups in kernel 2.6.38 , but am not sure how they work. There's nothing in the docs in /usr/src/linux Are you sure there's no documentation? [long list snipped] (red face) Yes there is. And thanks to the others who had suggestions. Now I can explore the topic at leisure. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Howzat!
Hello list, How's this for sheer persistence and grit? $ genlop -c Currently merging 321 out of 368 * www-client/chromium-10.0.648.204 current merge time: 11 hours, 41 minutes and 9 seconds. ETA: any time now. This is my Atom N270 LAN server box. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, How's this for sheer persistence and grit? $ genlop -c Currently merging 321 out of 368 * www-client/chromium-10.0.648.204 current merge time: 11 hours, 41 minutes and 9 seconds. ETA: any time now. This is my Atom N270 LAN server box. I got a very old Compaq rig with quad 200Mhz CPUs and 128Mbs of ram. I have always wondered how long it would take to compile OOo on that thing. 12 hours to compile a browser does take patience. I hope you don't have a power failure right at the end. o_O How long does it take to open it when it gets done? Seconds? Minutes? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] I'm up, at long last!
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 06:58, Mark Shields laebsh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Hi, Gentoo. After a few weeks of effort, I've just gone live with my very own Gentoo system. :-) Hi Alan! Welcome to the club :-) [-- snip --] So, thanks for all the help, everybody! -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). Gentoo has it's places, but at the end of the day, I just want my desktop system to work with little effort on my part. And be consistent. Ubuntu gives me that on a desktop -- well, it did, until they decided to switch to Unity. But that's another topic... How I wish I can use *any* kind of Linux for my desktop :-/ For everything else (re: servers), there's Gentoo :) Can't agree more ;-) I run a Gentoo VPS for a website. I love the flexibility of Gentoo, the speed, the nothingness you start with and have to mold it together like you would an artist with a block of clay. I was about to post something similar to what you wrote, but you did it much more poetically. Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Howzat!
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, How's this for sheer persistence and grit? $ genlop -c Currently merging 321 out of 368 * www-client/chromium-10.0.648.204 current merge time: 11 hours, 41 minutes and 9 seconds. ETA: any time now. This is my Atom N270 LAN server box. I got a very old Compaq rig with quad 200Mhz CPUs and 128Mbs of ram. I have always wondered how long it would take to compile OOo on that thing. 12 hours to compile a browser does take patience. I hope you don't have a power failure right at the end. o_O How long does it take to open it when it gets done? Seconds? Minutes? Dale :-) :-) Assuming a reasonable 1GB ram on the box (pretty well standard to low with an Atom), and considering what my netbook does (the same single core 1.6GHz with HT turned on for responsiveness in my case), about 2-3 seconds... but then I'm on a little SSD too. I should admit my netbook's running Debian at the moment, though. Didn't want to abuse the SSD too much with writes, and it's tedious to install things through an intermediary system all the time. The fullsize laptop, when it gets its rebuild over the next week (it's been a windows 2k3 server development system lately) -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
