Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
On Friday 08 Jul 2011 05:43:58 Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 07/05/2011 10:38 PM, Dale wrote: My current plan, finish this new install. Test the ram and hope it is OK. I can feel your pain :( This may not help, but I thought I'd mention it just because nothing else has helped so far. I started having random keyboard issues right after the most recent xorg update on my ~x86 and ~amd64 machines. Maybe just once/day or so I'll hit a key and the auto-repeat function starts repeating the keystroke ad infinitum until I hit Backspace. This is not a lockup like your problem, but it was striking that this random keyboard problem started right after the recent xorg update. (Yes, I recompiled all the drivers after the upgrade.) Since you are recompiling/reinstalling everything anyway, what about masking the most recent xorg-server/xorg-driver updates so you can test older versions? You quad-core speed demon ;p I'm going to add this to the to try list. That sort of makes sense. Most of the time it is a hard lock up. It won't even let me ssh in from my old rig or use the SysReq keys. Sometimes tho, it acts like things are still running but the GUI is locked up. I didn't get to try to ssh in then tho. I know once I had a compile running and I could see the hard drive light blinking as it compiled. So something was working that time at least. One thing I did learn, if the lights on the keyboard are blinking, it's locked up tight. If they are not blinking, I can use the SysReq keys to reboot. I also thought about just booting Knoppix and seeing if it works. Maybe it is just some weird code that Konsole and Firefox have in common somehow. The only thing is, I'm sure they will use different version of all the software. It may not make any difference except to rule out hardware. I'm pretty sure hardware is OK but we know how hard those are to track down. One more thing on the try list if this doesn't work. Thanks. Dale I'm stating the obvious here, but have you tried restoring from a back up that you made before these problems started? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?
On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This is the list available: gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here glibc-2.13-r3 no problems this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a revbump soon which gets that fixed. justin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata 1.0 possible?
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, 17:23:15 schrieb Mark Knecht: Hi Jens, I've never bothered with actually making the boot device RAID as it's pretty easy to recreate if it dies. I do mirror my /boot partition on three drives so that hopefully I can change what BIOS looks at to boot and get the machine back up that way if necessary. I know of one person who reported that he made /boot RAID1 but only boots from one of the drive to automatically shadow changes he makes to /boot, but I've not tried that myself. As for /root, I'm using metadata=1.2 here, but it wasn't easy. It required an initramfs to figure out why it wasn't working, and then a _lot_ of care about RAID naming in both the physical RAID details as well as the mdadm.conf file to ensure it matched the eventual machine name. However it does work well for me. HTH, Mark Hi Mark, i really think it could be an issue of naming... As if i boot from the install-cd the raid-drives are named md124 - md127 and /dev/md/livecd:1 - /dev/md/livecd:4. I installed a kernel with genkernel and its corresponding initramfs, but after booting i get the same errors. starting the busybox shows the /dev/md3 but i cant mount it in any way. regards, Jens
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
Mick wrote: On Friday 08 Jul 2011 05:43:58 Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 07/05/2011 10:38 PM, Dale wrote: My current plan, finish this new install. Test the ram and hope it is OK. I can feel your pain :( This may not help, but I thought I'd mention it just because nothing else has helped so far. I started having random keyboard issues right after the most recent xorg update on my ~x86 and ~amd64 machines. Maybe just once/day or so I'll hit a key and the auto-repeat function starts repeating the keystroke ad infinitum until I hit Backspace. This is not a lockup like your problem, but it was striking that this random keyboard problem started right after the recent xorg update. (Yes, I recompiled all the drivers after the upgrade.) Since you are recompiling/reinstalling everything anyway, what about masking the most recent xorg-server/xorg-driver updates so you can test older versions? You quad-core speed demon ;p I'm going to add this to the to try list. That sort of makes sense. Most of the time it is a hard lock up. It won't even let me ssh in from my old rig or use the SysReq keys. Sometimes tho, it acts like things are still running but the GUI is locked up. I didn't get to try to ssh in then tho. I know once I had a compile running and I could see the hard drive light blinking as it compiled. So something was working that time at least. One thing I did learn, if the lights on the keyboard are blinking, it's locked up tight. If they are not blinking, I can use the SysReq keys to reboot. I also thought about just booting Knoppix and seeing if it works. Maybe it is just some weird code that Konsole and Firefox have in common somehow. The only thing is, I'm sure they will use different version of all the software. It may not make any difference except to rule out hardware. I'm pretty sure hardware is OK but we know how hard those are to track down. One more thing on the try list if this doesn't work. Thanks. Dale I'm stating the obvious here, but have you tried restoring from a back up that you made before these problems started? I usually have a backup but I got rid of it a month or so ago. I was planning to take the drive out and use it for something else but never got around to it. Before that I played with LVM a bit. So far, I have upgraded gcc and glibc and the emerge -e world is almost finished. If it still locks up, I'm going to try a different xorg and friends. Someone else mentioned a bug that is pretty close to what I have going on. I'm going to fix this even if I don't know for sure what caused it. If after this emerge it works, it has to be either gcc or glibc. If it still does it and I upgrade/downgrade xorg and friends then it works, then I know it was one of those. I'm just hoping for a fix and glad I got Fluxbox on here. Fluxbox ain't fancy but it works well for a backup.. I have to add, it is pretty snappy on a 4 core 3.2Ghz CPU with 16Gbs of ram too. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
Dale wrote: Mick wrote: I'm stating the obvious here, but have you tried restoring from a back up that you made before these problems started? I usually have a backup but I got rid of it a month or so ago. I was planning to take the drive out and use it for something else but never got around to it. Before that I played with LVM a bit. So far, I have upgraded gcc and glibc and the emerge -e world is almost finished. If it still locks up, I'm going to try a different xorg and friends. Someone else mentioned a bug that is pretty close to what I have going on. I'm going to fix this even if I don't know for sure what caused it. If after this emerge it works, it has to be either gcc or glibc. If it still does it and I upgrade/downgrade xorg and friends then it works, then I know it was one of those. I'm just hoping for a fix and glad I got Fluxbox on here. Fluxbox ain't fancy but it works well for a backup.. I have to add, it is pretty snappy on a 4 core 3.2Ghz CPU with 16Gbs of ram too. lol Dale :-) :-) If you ever see me in person, kick me real hard. I read your reply then had a thought. I forgot to switch to the new compiler BEFORE I started the emerge. So, I almost recompiled everything with the same gcc. At least your reply made me think of it. ;-) hangs head in shame and sighs Dale :-) :-) P. S. I feel like a idiot. What a NOOB mistake.
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?
justin wrote: On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This is the list available: gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here glibc-2.13-r3 no problems this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a revbump soon which gets that fixed. justin Is the issues worse than a hard lock up? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:43:58 -0500, Dale wrote: One thing I did learn, if the lights on the keyboard are blinking, it's locked up tight. That's a kernel panic. You can have the system reboot itself after a panic by adding kernel.panic=N to /etc/sysctl.conf, where N is the number of seconds to wait before rebooting. -- Neil Bothwick Synonym: a word you use when you can't spell the other one. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?
On Friday 08 July 2011 08:14:00 justin did opine thusly: On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This is the list available: gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here glibc-2.13-r3 no problems this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a revbump soon which gets that fixed. Are these issues documented somewhere? I haven't seen any problems on either package on my stuff -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:43:58 -0500, Dale wrote: One thing I did learn, if the lights on the keyboard are blinking, it's locked up tight. That's a kernel panic. You can have the system reboot itself after a panic by adding kernel.panic=N to /etc/sysctl.conf, where N is the number of seconds to wait before rebooting. Kewl !!! I just saw that in the file but it is commented out. Like this: # When the kernel panics, automatically reboot in 3 seconds #kernel.panic = 3 So, I uncomment this and the system will reboot in 3 seconds? Does it sync and unmount or just do the same as me hitting the reset button? I'm going to uncomment this either way. If it is locked up, does it matter if it is it or me that resets it? lol Is there a way to set this without rebooting? Thanks. Why wouldn't that be a default I wonder? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 08 July 2011 08:14:00 justin did opine thusly: On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This is the list available: gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here glibc-2.13-r3 no problems this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a revbump soon which gets that fixed. Are these issues documented somewhere? I haven't seen any problems on either package on my stuff Alan, while you got a eye open. Can you try to do a search for all bugs related to konsole and glibc? When I go to BGO's search and try to search for that on ALL bugs including closed ones, I never get anything but the please stand by screen or a blank screen. It acts like it is searching but never returns anything. I go here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/query.cgi Make sure you select ALL for the status. I was wanting to see if there was any problems reported but fixed in some way. I'm just curious if it is me or a website problem. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting from SoftwareRaid 10 with metadata 1.0 possible?
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, 16:18:46 schrieb Jens Reinemuth: Hi everybody, i'm totally stuck with an installation of a server using SoftwareRAIDs (10) with an adaptec aic79xx Controller... I thought that perhaps the drivers must be corrupted, but i found some (older) howtos that described you should be using metadata=0.9.0 at least on the boot and root partitions. Is this still an issue with actual kernels? regards, Jens Omfg... Facepalm!!! Totally ignorant i really did genkernel with initramfs, added dodmraid as parameter, ... Should have simply done a genkernel --help, which showed up the mdadm parameter :-( After doing this - and changing the mdadm.conf a litte bit - everything works as expected... Ok, not everything - should remove all the unneeded modules from kernel which i added to locate the error. Thanx a lot to all, Jens
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 04:19:46 -0500, Dale wrote: That's a kernel panic. You can have the system reboot itself after a panic by adding kernel.panic=N to /etc/sysctl.conf, where N is the number of seconds to wait before rebooting. Kewl !!! I just saw that in the file but it is commented out. Like this: # When the kernel panics, automatically reboot in 3 seconds #kernel.panic = 3 So, I uncomment this and the system will reboot in 3 seconds? Does it sync and unmount or just do the same as me hitting the reset button? The kernel is dead, it's all it can manage to reboot with it's last gasp. Is there a way to set this without rebooting? You can set it with sysctl on the command line, or add it to the file and reload the config with sysctl -p Thanks. Why wouldn't that be a default I wonder? Because it causes reboot loops if there's a basic error that causes a panic when you boot. You can also give it as a kernel option in GRUB, add panic=N to the kernel options. -- Neil Bothwick Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On 6 July 2011, at 17:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is there a secret plan in place to keep users from being able to use Gtk 2 in packages that support both Gtk 2 and 3? And if yes, why? Is the user considered too stupid to grasp the awesomeness of Gtk 3 so that the devs have to force the choice upon them? I'm talking about this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374057 So why should users not be able to choose Gtk 2 with a USE flag? What is the reason people use Gentoo? Isn't one of them the ability of being able to rebuild packages with different USE flags? Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? ebuilds generally don't do this, because it is bad. What you have and what you want aren't necessarily the same thing. Consider: * You don't yet have any gtk installed * You have gtk2 but actually *want* the gtk3 version, so you want the ebuild to pull in gtk3 (or vice versa) * You have both gtk2 and gtk3 installed. * You have gtk installed, but don't want gtk support for a particular package (if gtk support is optional for that package).
[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On 07/08/2011 03:11 PM, Stroller wrote: On 6 July 2011, at 17:35, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Is there a secret plan in place to keep users from being able to use Gtk 2 in packages that support both Gtk 2 and 3? And if yes, why? Is the user considered too stupid to grasp the awesomeness of Gtk 3 so that the devs have to force the choice upon them? I'm talking about this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=374057 So why should users not be able to choose Gtk 2 with a USE flag? What is the reason people use Gentoo? Isn't one of them the ability of being able to rebuild packages with different USE flags? Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? Other than the dev believing that Gentoo is there to satisfy only his own needs and that portage is his own customized personal overlay? No, I don't think so.
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?
On Friday 08 July 2011 04:29:09 Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 08 July 2011 08:14:00 justin did opine thusly: On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly: As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system. I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will change anything. So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and glibc. This is the list available: gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here glibc-2.13-r3 no problems this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a revbump soon which gets that fixed. Are these issues documented somewhere? I haven't seen any problems on either package on my stuff Alan, while you got a eye open. Can you try to do a search for all bugs related to konsole and glibc? When I go to BGO's search and try to search for that on ALL bugs including closed ones, I never get anything but the please stand by screen or a blank screen. It acts like it is searching but never returns anything. I go here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/query.cgi Make sure you select ALL for the status. I was wanting to see if there was any problems reported but fixed in some way. I'm just curious if it is me or a website problem. I got hits: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificorder=relevance%20descbug_status=__open__content=ALL%20konsole%20glibclist_id=275295 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? ebuilds generally don't do this, because it is bad. What you have and what you want aren't necessarily the same thing. Consider: * You don't yet have any gtk installed * You have gtk2 but actually *want* the gtk3 version, so you want the ebuild to pull in gtk3 (or vice versa) * You have both gtk2 and gtk3 installed. * You have gtk installed, but don't want gtk support for a particular package (if gtk support is optional for that package). easy. Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3 in ebuild: DEPEND= gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2) gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3) in src-configure() write the code such that it establishes a precedence If both flags are set, build against gtk+:3 If only one flag is set, build against that toolkit If no flags are set, do something appropriate. IIRC, it is frowned upon to have conditionals in DEPENDS based on USE flags so the above is best - take the small hit on disk space if both are set and gtk+:2 is used nowhere else (highly unlikely for quite a while still) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?
On 2011-07-08 11:29, Dale wrote: I'm just curious if it is me or a website problem. I'm not Alan but... konsole: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importanceshort_desc=konsoleresolution=---query_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=IN_PROGRESSbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDshort_desc_type=allwordssubstr glibc (you didn't mention any specific version so...109 bugs): https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importanceshort_desc=glibcresolution=---query_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=IN_PROGRESSbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDshort_desc_type=allwordssubstr PS. I always use the advanced version of BGO; not sure if there's any difference between simple advanced... HTH Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups.
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 04:19:46 -0500, Dale wrote: That's a kernel panic. You can have the system reboot itself after a panic by adding kernel.panic=N to /etc/sysctl.conf, where N is the number of seconds to wait before rebooting. Kewl !!! I just saw that in the file but it is commented out. Like this: # When the kernel panics, automatically reboot in 3 seconds #kernel.panic = 3 So, I uncomment this and the system will reboot in 3 seconds? Does it sync and unmount or just do the same as me hitting the reset button? The kernel is dead, it's all it can manage to reboot with it's last gasp. Is there a way to set this without rebooting? You can set it with sysctl on the command line, or add it to the file and reload the config with sysctl -p Thanks. Why wouldn't that be a default I wonder? Because it causes reboot loops if there's a basic error that causes a panic when you boot. You can also give it as a kernel option in GRUB, add panic=N to the kernel options. Thanks. I'm hoping not to need this feature anytime soon. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup
Sorry about the OT, I couldn't raise a stir on the encfs group in several days... I'm hoping someone here is experienced with encfs. Actually I'm somewhat experienced with it myself. I've been keeping encfs directory for yrs now for special stuff. Somehow I managed to really hurt the installation ... here is what I remember having done: Some how I got mixed up when running as root, and attempted to mount a users encfs directory. (Its a single user machine so it my users directory) That should just fail with some kind of permission error since no one, even root, can mess with someone elses' encfs directory. But once I'd done that I could no longer even `ls' the subject directory. Not as user, not as root. A simple `ls' would totally hang the terminal. Of course I tried to umount but really it never actually mounted. I started getting this error: `Transport endpoint is not connected' I could see roots attempt to mount the darn thing in ps wwaux output and killed that pid. Eventually (after posting several days ago on encfs list. I resorted to umounting /home (after full backup of course) and reformatted it. I was then able to deleted encfs_raw and encfs_mnt. But here is the real kicker. Even after all that, and in fact another full round of mostly the same stuff, including another reformat. So two reformats and two reboots. Even with that, I still cannot create a new enc_raw and enc_mount of the same name as the old one. I would like to, because I have several scripts that depend on that name. Not a huge deal... but what could still be causing trouble? I can create any number of encfs directories with different names. Just not the original. What happens if I try is that after creation (using old name) I can move files to the new (with old name) directory. But if I once umount it like: fusermount -u /my/oldencfs, then when I try next to mount it, it hangs terminally. Takes over the terminal and kills all further progress (in that terminal). This happens at the point where I answer the passwd prompt with the appropriate passwd. (No .. no chance I'm entering it wrong... its been in daily use for yrs). I'm kind of stumped at what else to try. I've used encfs -v (verbose) mode and -f (foreground) mode but after entering the passwd... it all just goes south... nothing more can happen. Maybe encfs keeps data somewhere that I can delete and make this go away? But a `qlist encfs', listing all that got installed doesn't show anything like that.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Maybe encfs keeps data somewhere that I can delete and make this go away? But a `qlist encfs', listing all that got installed doesn't show anything like that. I've never used encfs, but maybe strace will show you if it's accessing files anywhere else around the time it goes belly-up.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On 8 July 2011, at 16:19, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... easy. Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3 in ebuild: DEPEND= gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2) gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3) in src-configure() write the code such that it establishes a precedence If both flags are set, build against gtk+:3 If only one flag is set, build against that toolkit If no flags are set, do something appropriate. This is the way it was done for gtk vs. gtk2, but the bug has been updated since I first read it (over 24 hours ago) and apparently the Gnome team don't want the two separate flags in the future. I'm not really a gtk or Gnome (or X11) user, so I don't really know, but the two separate flags did strike me as a bit of an ugly / clumsy way of doing things.
[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On 07/08/2011 06:19 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? ebuilds generally don't do this, because it is bad. What you have and what you want aren't necessarily the same thing. Consider: * You don't yet have any gtk installed * You have gtk2 but actually *want* the gtk3 version, so you want the ebuild to pull in gtk3 (or vice versa) * You have both gtk2 and gtk3 installed. * You have gtk installed, but don't want gtk support for a particular package (if gtk support is optional for that package). easy. Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3 in ebuild: DEPEND= gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2) gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3) Actually, it's better to have gtk2 and gtk. *Not* gtk3. That would repeat the problems of the past (gtk1-gtk2.) But the devs have gone into ego-mode by now, so there's no chance in hell they would accept help or suggestions about this. It has reached the point where accepting a suggestion would mean losing the argument to them, so I doubt they'll do any of it as they don't want to lose to some n00b users.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
I'm not expert enough on this subject to be *advocating* this approach, but this is how I would have expected it to behave: On 8 July 2011, at 14:14, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? ebuilds generally don't do this, because it is bad. What you have and what you want aren't necessarily the same thing. Consider: * You don't yet have any gtk installed Highest version of gtk in tree is pulled in as a dep (subject to masking, ARCH, ~ARCH, c) * You have gtk2 but actually *want* the gtk3 version, so you want the ebuild to pull in gtk3 (or vice versa) emerge -u1 x11-libs/gtk+ (assuming gtk3 is now stable) or emerge -1 =x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.10 (but gtk3 will probably be pulled in by Gnome3 (??) automatically when the user upgrades to that) * You have both gtk2 and gtk3 installed. Compile against the higher one * You have gtk installed, but don't want gtk support for a particular package (if gtk support is optional for that package). This is when you should be using USE=-gtk, surely? Whether v2 /or v3 of gtk is supported is irrelevant. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup
On Friday, July 8 at 11:55 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: [..] Somehow I managed to really hurt the installation ... here is what I remember having done: Some how I got mixed up when running as root, and attempted to mount a users encfs directory. (Its a single user machine so it my users directory) That should just fail with some kind of permission error since no one, even root, can mess with someone elses' encfs directory. This is not entirely the case. No one can enter an encfs mount (destination) but the person that mounted it (by default), but anyone can *mount* the encfs source (and thus become the owner of the mount). All other Unix permissions are retained. But once I'd done that I could no longer even `ls' the subject directory. Not as user, not as root. A simple `ls' would totally hang the terminal. Of course I tried to umount but really it never actually mounted. It probably *did* mount, but... I started getting this error: `Transport endpoint is not connected' Usually that means the background process that actually handles the enc/dec has died or is otherwise not responding. I could see roots attempt to mount the darn thing in ps wwaux output and killed that pid. That's probably why you got the above error. But technically if you just kill the process, the kernel still thinks it's mounted. Eventually (after posting several days ago on encfs list. I resorted to umounting /home (after full backup of course) and reformatted it. That's seems a bit extreme... I was then able to deleted encfs_raw and encfs_mnt. Did you try simply rebooting or manually unmounting? That's probably all that was needed. But here is the real kicker. Even after all that, and in fact another full round of mostly the same stuff, including another reformat. So two reformats and two reboots. Even with that, I still cannot create a new enc_raw and enc_mount of the same name as the old one. What do you mean by cannot? Do you get an error? Does dmesg tell you anything? I would like to, because I have several scripts that depend on that name. Not a huge deal... but what could still be causing trouble? This is indicative possibly of another issue, that is being masked. Try reading dmesg or strace the encfs process in foreground mode. I can create any number of encfs directories with different names. Just not the original. Again, seems indicative of another issue. Perhaps the host fs is currupt or something similar. What happens if I try is that after creation (using old name) I can move files to the new (with old name) directory. But if I once umount it like: fusermount -u /my/oldencfs, then when I try next to mount it, it hangs terminally. Takes over the terminal and kills all further progress (in that terminal). This happens at the point where I answer the passwd prompt with the appropriate passwd. (No .. no chance I'm entering it wrong... its been in daily use for yrs). I'm kind of stumped at what else to try. I've used encfs -v (verbose) mode and -f (foreground) mode but after entering the passwd... it all just goes south... nothing more can happen. Maybe encfs keeps data somewhere that I can delete and make this go away? But a `qlist encfs', listing all that got installed doesn't show anything like that. If you totally remove the source and target directories, there is no other information stored, which allows you to (e.g) encfs directory on a vfat-formated USB stick and move it mount it on a different machine. All that encfs knows about an encrypted directory is in *one* file on the source directory (.encfs6.xml). Once that file is gone, there is no such thing as an encfs. Having said that: One of encfs's Achilles heel is its dependency on the boost C++ library which is *very* sensitive wrt to API/ABI changes and the like. It also depends on OpenSSL which also shares this notoriety (although, in my experience, less so). So there is a possibility that an update to any of those packages may have broken encfs and you need to rebuild the package.
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh
I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work. I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works. I've tried rebooting and re-emerging openssh. I am connected to an unfamiliar wireless network (with no alternative right now) but I could ssh to domains no problem over this network before. Does this make sense to anyone? I'd compare the output of strace ping host and strace ssh host. Anything in nsswitch.conf? It seems to be used by ssh, but not by the host command. Which is new to me. nsswitch.conf looks straighforward and should be default. I get a lot of output from those straces. Can you tell me what to look for? Any recent changes in ~/.ssh/config or /etc/ssh/ssh_config? ~/.ssh/config doesn't exist and /etc/ssh/ssh_config is all commented out. Normally I'd say this just can't happen... If I remove the domain and nameserver declarations in /etc/resolv.conf and add 'nameserver 8.8.8.8', it works properly. Is this something I should investigate, or more of a don't worry about it situation? I should be off of this wireless network very soon. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh
I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work. I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works. I've tried rebooting and re-emerging openssh. I am connected to an unfamiliar wireless network (with no alternative right now) but I could ssh to domains no problem over this network before. Does this make sense to anyone? It does not :) So, if you do: host example.com it shows the correct IP address? I get: $ host google.com google.com has address 74.125.224.83 google.com has address 74.125.224.84 google.com has address 74.125.224.80 google.com has address 74.125.224.81 google.com has address 74.125.224.82 google.com mail is handled by 50 alt4.aspmx.l.google.com. google.com mail is handled by 10 aspmx.l.google.com. google.com mail is handled by 20 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com. google.com mail is handled by 30 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com. google.com mail is handled by 40 alt3.aspmx.l.google.com. $ ssh google.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname google.com: Name or service not known - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems
And now that I look more closely at KVM switches, it looks like they provide a method of controlling multiple computers via a single keyboard, monitor, and mouse. I need sort of the inverse. I'd like to control a single Gentoo computer via multiple sets of keyboards, monitors, and mice simultaneously. It would basically be a way to have the functionality of multiple workstations but the administration hassle of only a single system. Wireless communication between the computer and each keyboard-monitor-mouse would be most convenient, but that may not be possible so wired would be fine. Does something like this exist? - Grant Does this fantasy-arrangement of mine exist? I guess what I'm after is a series of dumb terminals to connect to a local Gentoo system so I don't need to manage a series of Gentoo systems. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On Friday, July 8 at 17:19 (+0200), Alan McKinnon said: On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which you're using? ebuilds generally don't do this, because it is bad. What you have and what you want aren't necessarily the same thing. Consider: * You don't yet have any gtk installed * You have gtk2 but actually *want* the gtk3 version, so you want the ebuild to pull in gtk3 (or vice versa) * You have both gtk2 and gtk3 installed. * You have gtk installed, but don't want gtk support for a particular package (if gtk support is optional for that package). easy. Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3 in ebuild: DEPEND= gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2) gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3) in src-configure() write the code such that it establishes a precedence If both flags are set, build against gtk+:3 If only one flag is set, build against that toolkit If no flags are set, do something appropriate. You mean like what they did with portage and python2/3? Well, there was bugs in that (I reported 1 or 2 bugs myself). It works now (depending on your expectation of works but is very ugly. IIRC, it is frowned upon to have conditionals in DEPENDS based on USE flags so the above is best - take the small hit on disk space if both are set and gtk+:2 is used nowhere else (highly unlikely for quite a while still) They could do that.. I don't see it happening though. I didn't want to comment on this thread (having been on both sides of the fence). But I will say this. The best thing about Gentoo is it's a meta-distribution. It gives you more control and more ease to do things your way. I think people should learn to take more advantage of the latter. I do.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple Gentoo systems
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: And now that I look more closely at KVM switches, it looks like they provide a method of controlling multiple computers via a single keyboard, monitor, and mouse. I need sort of the inverse. I'd like to control a single Gentoo computer via multiple sets of keyboards, monitors, and mice simultaneously. It would basically be a way to have the functionality of multiple workstations but the administration hassle of only a single system. Wireless communication between the computer and each keyboard-monitor-mouse would be most convenient, but that may not be possible so wired would be fine. Does something like this exist? - Grant Does this fantasy-arrangement of mine exist? I guess what I'm after is a series of dumb terminals to connect to a local Gentoo system so I don't need to manage a series of Gentoo systems. - Grant Have you considered using PXE to network boot your systems? you can have various configurations set up based on mac addresses to address different hardware issues. I recommend trying out SystemRescueCD to experiment with PXE booting for the client and server. -- No trees were harmed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh
Grant writes: Anything in nsswitch.conf? It seems to be used by ssh, but not by the host command. Which is new to me. nsswitch.conf looks straighforward and should be default. I get a lot of output from those straces. Can you tell me what to look for? For 'strange' things :) Like config files being opened, which you could investigate. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:12 -0400 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Thursday, July 7 at 23:30 (+0100), john said: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:26:18 -0400 Have cleared up error messages using config as suggested. I still get the issue when starting /etc/init.d/libvirtd * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network sockets. Check /var/log/messages or run without --daemon for more info. * start-stop-daemon: failed to start `/usr/sbin/libvirtd'[ !! ] * ERROR: libvirtd failed to start You'll have to turn up the logging level of libvirt (to find out exactly what it's trying to do and where it's erroring out). BUT when i start /usr/sbin/libvirtd from command line virt-manager now works. It lets me create vms (yippee) I was unaware that libvirtd was a separate package (thought it was part of virt-manager. After reading your hints it dawned on me that is was seaparate so have enabled more use flags. I should check more carefully the output of emerge -vp. libvirt (not libvirtd) is a seperate package, it (possibly) contains a number of things, including libvirt: the C library that allows you to manage many different types of virtualization platforms using a common API. Python bindings for the above A command-line and shell interface (called virsh) libvirtd, which is a daemon helper used to manage virtualization platforms which don't have their own management service (such as kvm). virt-manager, is a seperate product. It is a GUI interface written in python that is used to talk to manage different types of virtualization platforms. It uses libvirt (its python bindings) to do this. Think of it as a GUI version of virsh. But you don't need virt-manager to use libvirt, and you don't even need libvirtd to use libvirt (e.g. you are interfacing with Xen or VMware hypervisors). That's why I was trying to say it's good for you to figure out what you are trying to do, before you go through the trouble of figuring out how to solve a problem that doesn't even pertain to you and could have been avoided altogether just by choosing the right combination of USE flags. If you are just wanting have a GUI for Xen, for example, you don't even need to worry about libvirtd. If, for example, you are using KVM but you want the VMs to bridge off a physical interface and have no need for virtual networks, then you don't even need the virt-net USE flag. Anyway I am up and running with a big thanks to yourself and will have a closer look at the service another day. Ok LOL Well I was up and running but now when trying to create VMs I get (have done upgrade of around 20 packages) Uncaught error validating install parameters: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1241, in validate return self.validate_final_page() File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1501, in validate_final_page self.guest.add_device(self.nic) File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/virtinst/Guest.py, line 666, in add_device raise ValueError(_(Must pass a VirtualDevice instance.)) ValueError: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. dnsmasq installed. python-updater run. revdep-rebuild etc.. Are there any other GUIs to try for for virtualisation? Or is it better sticking to CL to qemu-kvm? Am I expecting too much for this just to work? -- -- John D Maunder j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
On 8 July 2011, at 20:06, Albert Hopkins wrote: ... I didn't want to comment on this thread (having been on both sides of the fence). But I will say this. The best thing about Gentoo is it's a meta-distribution. It gives you more control and more ease to do things your way. I think people should learn to take more advantage of the latter. I do. Yeah, I hope I don't offend Nikos by saying this, but I think he's allowing himself (from his comments in the bug report) to get way too bent out of shape over this, considering he could stick a copy of the patched ebuild in his local overlay and just compile against that until gtk3 looks OK under KDE. I have to do this fairly regularly, because all the packages that are important to me seem to be completely unimportant to anyone else, and my bugs languish in bugzilla for months at a time. You have to pick your battles, and (whilst I'm not always able to follow this advice myself) it's not worth letting some asshole on the internet have a negative affect on you. Nikos has now spent *way* more time arguing his case in the bug report than he would have done maintaining the ebuild himself. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 21:22:40 +0100 john j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:17:12 -0400 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Thursday, July 7 at 23:30 (+0100), john said: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:26:18 -0400 Have cleared up error messages using config as suggested. I still get the issue when starting /etc/init.d/libvirtd * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network sockets. Check /var/log/messages or run without --daemon for more info. * start-stop-daemon: failed to start `/usr/sbin/libvirtd'[ !! ] * ERROR: libvirtd failed to start You'll have to turn up the logging level of libvirt (to find out exactly what it's trying to do and where it's erroring out). BUT when i start /usr/sbin/libvirtd from command line virt-manager now works. It lets me create vms (yippee) I was unaware that libvirtd was a separate package (thought it was part of virt-manager. After reading your hints it dawned on me that is was seaparate so have enabled more use flags. I should check more carefully the output of emerge -vp. libvirt (not libvirtd) is a seperate package, it (possibly) contains a number of things, including libvirt: the C library that allows you to manage many different types of virtualization platforms using a common API. Python bindings for the above A command-line and shell interface (called virsh) libvirtd, which is a daemon helper used to manage virtualization platforms which don't have their own management service (such as kvm). virt-manager, is a seperate product. It is a GUI interface written in python that is used to talk to manage different types of virtualization platforms. It uses libvirt (its python bindings) to do this. Think of it as a GUI version of virsh. But you don't need virt-manager to use libvirt, and you don't even need libvirtd to use libvirt (e.g. you are interfacing with Xen or VMware hypervisors). That's why I was trying to say it's good for you to figure out what you are trying to do, before you go through the trouble of figuring out how to solve a problem that doesn't even pertain to you and could have been avoided altogether just by choosing the right combination of USE flags. If you are just wanting have a GUI for Xen, for example, you don't even need to worry about libvirtd. If, for example, you are using KVM but you want the VMs to bridge off a physical interface and have no need for virtual networks, then you don't even need the virt-net USE flag. Anyway I am up and running with a big thanks to yourself and will have a closer look at the service another day. Ok LOL Well I was up and running but now when trying to create VMs I get (have done upgrade of around 20 packages) Uncaught error validating install parameters: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1241, in validate return self.validate_final_page() File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1501, in validate_final_page self.guest.add_device(self.nic) File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/virtinst/Guest.py, line 666, in add_device raise ValueError(_(Must pass a VirtualDevice instance.)) ValueError: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. dnsmasq installed. python-updater run. revdep-rebuild etc.. Are there any other GUIs to try for for virtualisation? Or is it better sticking to CL to qemu-kvm? Am I expecting too much for this just to work? ok I might be being dumb but found a way round this (through trial and error) In advanced options in step 5 of 5 select Specify Shared Device Name Please note you'll need to create a bridge as well but selecting the above removes error message. Caw this is tough but fun. -- -- John D Maunder j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:35:55 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: Having said that: One of encfs's Achilles heel is its dependency on the boost C++ library which is *very* sensitive wrt to API/ABI changes and the like. It also depends on OpenSSL which also shares this notoriety (although, in my experience, less so). So there is a possibility that an update to any of those packages may have broken encfs and you need to rebuild the package. Apart from the need to access legacy data, which Harry has resolved by reformatting, is there any benefit in using encfs rather than the in-kernel ecryptfs these days? -- Neil Bothwick Fine day for a good workout. Steal something heavy. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager
On Friday, July 8 at 21:22 (+0100), john said: [...] LOL Well I was up and running but now when trying to create VMs I get (have done upgrade of around 20 packages) Uncaught error validating install parameters: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1241, in validate return self.validate_final_page() File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1501, in validate_final_page self.guest.add_device(self.nic) File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/virtinst/Guest.py, line 666, in add_device raise ValueError(_(Must pass a VirtualDevice instance.)) ValueError: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. dnsmasq installed. python-updater run. revdep-rebuild etc.. Are there any other GUIs to try for for virtualisation? Or is it better sticking to CL to qemu-kvm? Am I expecting too much for this just to work? I can honestly say that I haven't experienced so much pain working with libvirt/virt-manger. If I had I probably would have given up, but I've been using it for years now. What versions of packages are you using? Are you mixing stable/unstable packages? I can't really say. I've never seen that error before. What steps are you taking to create the VM?
Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager
On Friday, July 8 at 22:37 (+0100), john said: ok I might be being dumb but found a way round this (through trial and error) In advanced options in step 5 of 5 select Specify Shared Device Name Please note you'll need to create a bridge as well but selecting the above removes error message. Ok, the problem appears that you never really solved the first issue you had. So that's causing other issues down the pipe, which is often the case.
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh
Peter Ruskin writes: What package provides host? I'm amazed I don't have it. net-dns/bind-tools Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh
on 07/09/2011 01:35 AM Peter Ruskin wrote the following: On Friday 08 July 2011 19:58:47 Grant wrote: host example.com What package provides host? I'm amazed I don't have it. net-dns/bind-tools
Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:57:55 -0400 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Friday, July 8 at 21:22 (+0100), john said: [...] LOL Well I was up and running but now when trying to create VMs I get (have done upgrade of around 20 packages) Uncaught error validating install parameters: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1241, in validate return self.validate_final_page() File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/create.py, line 1501, in validate_final_page self.guest.add_device(self.nic) File /usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/virtinst/Guest.py, line 666, in add_device raise ValueError(_(Must pass a VirtualDevice instance.)) ValueError: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. dnsmasq installed. python-updater run. revdep-rebuild etc.. Are there any other GUIs to try for for virtualisation? Or is it better sticking to CL to qemu-kvm? Am I expecting too much for this just to work? I can honestly say that I haven't experienced so much pain working with libvirt/virt-manger. If I had I probably would have given up, but I've been using it for years now. What versions of packages are you using? Are you mixing stable/unstable packages? I can't really say. I've never seen that error before. What steps are you taking to create the VM? Using latest stable versions of all packages regarding virt-manager/libvirt and all associated but I am using .39-r2 kernel (which oddly cures a usb issue I have been having with .38 There is post on the forum regarding this issue as well (recent) but looks like no fix was found. Have tried a few vms now and seen to be running ok. Was trying to see any differences with VirtualBox (better speed/usability). Can't say there is much in it but only a home user so will not see too much speed difference anyway. Using gui to create images on hard disc and running isos from there. I perhaps should read the documentation but like to try things first before getting too involved. lxc next!!! Thanks for your guidance. I don't think I would have got this far without it. -- -- John D Maunder j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh
On Friday 08 Jul 2011 23:35:21 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Friday 08 July 2011 19:58:47 Grant wrote: host example.com What package provides host? I'm amazed I don't have it. net-dns/bind-tools -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: DNS error with ssh
On 07/08/2011 11:58 AM, Grant wrote: I'm not able to ssh to any domain, although IPs work. I get: $ ssh example.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname example.com: Name or service not known I can ping domains no problem, and web browsing works. I've tried rebooting and re-emerging openssh. I am connected to an unfamiliar wireless network (with no alternative right now) but I could ssh to domains no problem over this network before. Does this make sense to anyone? It does not :) So, if you do: host example.com it shows the correct IP address? I get: $ host google.com google.com has address 74.125.224.83 $ ssh google.com ssh: Could not resolve hostname google.com: Name or service not known When I do ssh google.com the process hangs until I kill it, but it does find the right IP address. Along the way it checks /etc/gai.conf, which is installed by glibc and is used by the getaddrinfo(3) system call. My gai.conf has only three uncommented lines: scopev4 :::169.254.0.0/112 2 scopev4 :::127.0.0.0/1042 scopev4 :::0.0.0.0/96 14 Of course, lots of other files are consulted, as already mentioned in this thread. I mention gai.conf only because I'd never heard of it until I ran strace on ssh just now.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup
On Friday, July 8 at 22:50 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: Apart from the need to access legacy data, which Harry has resolved by reformatting, is there any benefit in using encfs rather than the in-kernel ecryptfs these days? Admittedly there isn't much difference, so if what you are using works for you why not stick with it. I still prefer encfs, although I have admittedly never tried ecryptfs, for the following reasons: * It's FUSE, completely userspace and requires no kernel support (other than FUSE) and no special privileges to mount (other than fusermount). * You can have multiple layers of encryption on on source directory. E.g. two different passwords can give you two different views of the filesystem. * In the documentation at least, it says when you upgrade ecryptfs you should first copy the files from the old ecryptfs to an unencrypted filesystem, and then copy it to the new ecryptfs. That seems like something some people won't want to do.
