Re: [gentoo-user] Slow not in sync movie playing with mplayer2, ffmpeg, x264 with intel core i5
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 06:57:08PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote No, it is all the videos that are 720p x264. Is this a recently installed Gentoo? I had a similar problem trying to play 1080i TV and also with NHL Gamecenter Live. A fresh install will have almost all binaries using generic lowest-common-denominator 32 or 64 bit code, so that it will work on every machine with the target CPU. Once I did emerge system + emerge world + rebuilt kernel and rebooted, it ran fine (for a 4+ year old Dell). Now it can handle at least the minimum speed for NHL Gamecenter Live, and play 1080i from the TV tuner. For CPU flags I use... CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} If that isn't your problem, can we see output from the 2 commands... cat /proc/cpuinfo (1 core is enough, thanks) head /proc/meminfo (does Memtotal: match what your BIOS shows on bootup?) -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I did a compilation from the start. 3 times @system and 1 time @world. I have used -march=native -mfpmath=sse and now movies do play well. I'm still not sure why I had this problem. I did use mmx and sse use flags, but did removed them. Is it possible that my gcc didn't created good efficient binary before I used recompiled world? I really don't think so. I didn't use -march=native, but did find what my gcc find as native documented here: http://gentoo-what-did-you-say.blogspot.com/2011/07/finding-cpu-flags-using-gcc.html Regards, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 03:09:28 ny6...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:28:44PM -0800, Grant wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. - Grant I like mutt. Takes some work getting everything working, but well worth it, IMO. For an X application, I have tried Pan and like it pretty well. I always found Tbird too bloated for my taste. I tried (every now and then) to set up mutt, but have failed to make it work as I would like to with gpg and s/mime certificates. Perhaps if I had more time to spend to configure it I would make it work as I want it. Meanwhile, I've frozen kdepim at 4.4 but I fear that I may have to kiss it good bye for good. I'm waiting to see if the http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php will offer something that I can switch to as a KDEPIM suite only (I don't use the full KDE desktop, just selected applications). Last time I looked Pan was a newsreader, are you saying that it also works as a mail client? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:30:23 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone set up lightdm? I'm using it with the default config file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log. gdm works fine. Any ideas? - Grant I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. - Grant You can type reboot or shutdown for the user then the root password and it will do as you requested. The problem there is sharing the root password on multi-user systems. - Grant do your $MAGIC in /etc/sudoers so users can run sudo shutdown -h now and no need to share root passwords -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:40:48 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. - Grant claws-mail It takes some getting used to as all the nice cute gui stuff is not present. It sends and receives mail, does a very good job of filtering, is somewhat passable with rendering html mail (and absolutely refuses to generate it). Everything else that bloats mail clients is absent. It goes without saying that under no circumstances must you even consider using kdepim Thank you all. Loving claws-mail so far. - Grant claws-mail is great. I tried postler too but it wouldn't work right. How are you finding it's calendar features? I find them quite pathetic actually but I put up with it as the alternative is sunbird or something equally bloated -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?
Hi, I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Have a nce sunday! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this? Put those packages in world If you don't want to clutter your world file, create a custom set in /etc/portage/sets/ and put that set in world. Same overall effect with some extra nice categorization -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 00:30:23 Grant wrote: Has anyone set up lightdm? I'm using it with the default config file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log. gdm works fine. Any ideas? - Grant I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. - Grant You can type reboot or shutdown for the user then the root password and it will do as you requested. The problem there is sharing the root password on multi-user systems. Unless you allow shutdown in sudo for your user group? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM. -- Neil Bothwick I heard someone tried the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays of W. Shakespeare but all they got was the collected works of Francis Bacon signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this? emerge -n package Nothing in the world files is ever depcleaned. -- Neil Bothwick Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM. Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near that fast. :-( Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz with 4G RAM. Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds. Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some turbo- charged fs? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
Thanasis: on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. Yes. Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice /usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@ which i just got with an i5. Should i? Should i wait for a fixed libreoffice-bin? Hm. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:57 +, Mick wrote: * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM. Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near that fast. :-( Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz with 4G RAM. Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds. Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some turbo- charged fs? Just plain old ext2. Laptops tend to have slower IO whereas I'm using RAID1 on SATA3 hardware. Plus it is a newer CPU. -- Neil Bothwick Windows '96 artificial intelligence: Unable to FORMAT A: Having a go at C: signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:50:47 +0100 Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote: Thanasis: on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. Yes. Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice /usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@ which i just got with an i5. Should i? Should i wait for a fixed libreoffice-bin? Hm. The case for compiling libreoffice is getting better all the time. Even on older slower machines, build time is gradually coming down as the ebuild maintainers strip out all the bundled libs that Sun added and use system libs instead. The days of 12 hour compiles for OOo are long gone (thankfully) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM. Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near that fast. :-( Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz with 4G RAM. Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds. Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some turbo- charged fs? IO does really slow down the compilation progress a lot. Having PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs saves about half an hour (compared to reiserfs on a 7200rpm disk) for me : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz Thu Feb 16 17:42:35 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 50 minutes and 39 seconds. With 4GB Ram thats not an option for you though... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
Hartmut Figge: Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice /usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@ which i just got with an i5. Should i? That would give me these new packages Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] virtual/fortran-0 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libevent-2.0.16 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-process/time-1.7-r1 101 kB [ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-boost-0.3 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-util/boost-build-1.46.1 41,017 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.024 0 kB [ebuild N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-3.2.1.2 13,682 kB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/boost-1.46.1-r1 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-perl/Archive-Zip-1.300.0 193 kB [ebuild N ] sci-libs/hdf5-1.8.4-r1 7,013 kB [ebuild N ] sci-libs/fftw-3.2.2 3,414 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme-0 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-libs/vigra-1.7.1-r1 27,814 kB [ebuild N ] net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.2.20 0 kB [ebuild N ] dev-util/mdds-0.5.3-r1 90 kB [ebuild N ] app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 240,214 kB Total: 16 packages (16 new), Should i wait for a fixed libreoffice-bin? Hm. libreoffice-bin doesn't require the above packages. Perhaps it failes therefore? *g* Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Again about a gentoo vm appliance for vbox
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:36:29 -0500 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alan responded: Try this. Attached is a .config for 2.6.39 that works and boots just fine in a default VBox vm using AHCI SATA controller as provided by vbox. [...] Thanks for posting the .config. I didn't just use that to get a working kernel but took a chance with your .config as basis at configuring a more recent kernel. So By bouncing your config up to 3.2.6 kernel and subtracting/adding a few things I thought of I did get a working install. It must be the first time out of quite a few tries over mnths and even yrs. Glad to be able to help. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge
Hi After an emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me? These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet requirements. - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python -static-libs -threads The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) (dependency required by @selected [set]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp Thank you very much in advance for a help... Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:48 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi After an emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me? These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet requirements. - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python -static-libs -threads The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) (dependency required by @selected [set]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) [1] 19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp Thank you very much in advance for a help... Best regards, mcc It says you need to enable threads if you want c++ support. (If cxx useflag is present, check for threads useflag). -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge
I have seen this message yesterday. Just add dev-libs/beecrypt threads to /etc/portage/package.use and you'll be fine... Jarry On 19-Feb-12 15:18, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet requirements. - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python -static-libs -threads The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) (dependency required by @selected [set]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 12:57:51 Meik Frischke wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM. Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near that fast. :-( Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz with 4G RAM. Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds. Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some turbo- charged fs? IO does really slow down the compilation progress a lot. Having PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs saves about half an hour (compared to reiserfs on a 7200rpm disk) for me : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz Thu Feb 16 17:42:35 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 50 minutes and 39 seconds. With 4GB Ram thats not an option for you though... My /var partition is on ext4. My CPU is admittedly slower, but even so I wouldn't think that it would take more than _twice_ as long as Neil's. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
I would be curious to see the results of compiling libreoffice with PORTAGE_TMPDIR on btrfs with compress=lzo. On Feb 19, 2012 9:37 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 12:57:51 Meik Frischke wrote: Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick: On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote: [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice * app-office/libreoffice Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds. Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil? Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM. Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near that fast. :-( Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz with 4G RAM. Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds. Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some turbo- charged fs? IO does really slow down the compilation progress a lot. Having PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs saves about half an hour (compared to reiserfs on a 7200rpm disk) for me : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz Thu Feb 16 17:42:35 2012 app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3 merge time: 50 minutes and 39 seconds. With 4GB Ram thats not an option for you though... My /var partition is on ext4. My CPU is admittedly slower, but even so I wouldn't think that it would take more than _twice_ as long as Neil's. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge
Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com [12-02-19 15:32]: I have seen this message yesterday. Just add dev-libs/beecrypt threads to /etc/portage/package.use and you'll be fine... Jarry On 19-Feb-12 15:18, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet requirements. - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python -static-libs -threads The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) (dependency required by @selected [set]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. Thanks a lot for your help! I was unsure about this cause of the question mark after cxx... Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:18:28 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi After an emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me? These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet requirements. - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python -static-libs -threads The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) (dependency required by @selected [set]) (dependency required by @world [argument]) [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp Thank you very much in advance for a help... It means that if you have USE=cxx set for dev-libs/beecrypt, then you must also have USE=threads set for the package. Note that it only applies to this package, it doesn't mean you must set the flags globally. The emerge output shows that you indeed have not met these requirements. You must either unset cxx or set threads. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:48:29 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: cxx? ( threads ) Thanks a lot for your help! I was unsure about this cause of the question mark after cxx... It's a conditional, it basically means if USE contains cxx then USE must contain threads. -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?
Hartmut Figge: libreoffice-bin doesn't require the above packages. Perhaps it failes therefore? *g* No. I had emerged them with oneshot to test that and to avoid, that emerging them would count to the time required to emerge libreoffice. Here are the results for my machine. Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz with 16GB RAM. i5_64 hafi # time emerge libreoffice real72m45.187s user178m12.372s sys 16m49.719s In case someone is interested what happened during compiling: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219.png (9 KB) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this opportunity. From Meino: QUOTE With eselect python list I get Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python2.7 [3] python3.1 [4] python3.2 * /QUOTE which shows python3.2 as the system wide default. It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have something like this: c2stable ~ # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 * [2] python3.2 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2 Available Python 2 interpreters: [1] python2.7 * c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.2 * c2stable ~ # Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the system wide default. What is the current best practice in this area? Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved) references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;) That is very nice ! :)) Thank you very much for all your help. Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but the executable only prints: Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding [1] 20570 abort blender -noaudio Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully against the systemwide python 3.2. ? How can I get blender to work? Cheers mcc Meino, First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of head banging drum riff all day night long. Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed Hydrogen to build for you? As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it. Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed? That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry. Glad Hydrogen is working for you. Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?
On 2012-02-18, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. mutt
[gentoo-user] libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
Greetings, after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting the help of libreoffice by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm resulting in several blank lines. Trying 'loffice | tee so-log.txt' gave this: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219-2.png (18 KB) Not very helpful. :) Well, after emerging libreoffice i was told to use the useflag java if recognizing difficulties. Grudgingly, because that would install another 44 packages, i have reemerged libreoffice. Thanks ccache this time the compilation took only 33 minutes. But pressing F1 still doesn't call 'Help'. I do not see anything related under Tools-Options but perhaps someone of you knows about a solution. :) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this opportunity. From Meino: QUOTE With eselect python list I get Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python2.7 [3] python3.1 [4] python3.2 * /QUOTE which shows python3.2 as the system wide default. It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have something like this: c2stable ~ # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 * [2] python3.2 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2 Available Python 2 interpreters: [1] python2.7 * c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.2 * c2stable ~ # Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the system wide default. What is the current best practice in this area? Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved) references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;) That is very nice ! :)) Thank you very much for all your help. Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but the executable only prints: Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding [1] 20570 abort blender -noaudio Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully against the systemwide python 3.2. ? How can I get blender to work? Cheers mcc Meino, First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of head banging drum riff all day night long. Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed Hydrogen to build for you? As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it. Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed? That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry. Glad Hydrogen is working for you. Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, :) currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ; :) I did it the hard way: I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build. I removed all python installation from my system except of the one emerge uses. I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends on what version of python. I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild. With eselect python I set it to python 2.7. I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out space (plan9, I think). Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its own python code is store. I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :) ;))) Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*. Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not really much more. This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often. Will see how I can fix the rest of the problems. The main problem of builing hydrogen was the python under /usr/local I think... Will see what hick up next Cheers, Meino
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?
On 02/19/12 11:02, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-18, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. mutt I loved mutt, but search in subfolders is really not an optional feature.
[gentoo-user] [OT] Proxytunnel through nginx
Hi All, I am trying to set up a reverse-proxy at my home to be able to by-pass restrictive firewalls that only allow http/https traffic. So I configured nginx as a reverse-proxy to send connections to the sshd at the home server. However, I fail to establish a connection. The connection attempt errors out with: $ ssh root@192.168.1.5 SSL enabled Connected to XXX.XX.XXX.XX:443 (local proxy) Tunneling to 192.168.1.5:22 (destination) Communication with local proxy: - CONNECT 192.168.1.5:22 HTTP/1.0 - Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive analyze_HTTP: readline failed: Connection closed by remote host ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host where XXX is the public IP address of my server. the proxy tunnel command is as follows: /usr/bin/proxytunnel -v -e -p XXX.XX.XXX.XX:443 -R user:'secretpasswd' -d 192.168.1.5:22 The relevant nginx entries are as follows: upstream tunnel { server 127.0.0.1:22; } server { listen 443; server_name localhost; ssl on; ssl_certificate certs/cert.pem; ssl_certificate_key certs/cert.key; ssl_session_timeout 5m; keepalive_timeout 70; location / { auth_basic Restricted; auth_basic_user_file.htpasswd_slug; # proxy_pass http://tunnel; proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1; proxy_buffering off; proxy_set_header Host $host; proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr; proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for; proxy_redirect off; } } The nginx error logs don't show anything, so I'm thinking there's something that the sshd does not like, but even when I increase the debug level in the sshd_config nothing shows up. This means that the remote client never reaches as far as the sshd server (nginx and sshd are both running on the same host). Any idea what causes this problem? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this opportunity. From Meino: QUOTE With eselect python list I get Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python2.7 [3] python3.1 [4] python3.2 * /QUOTE which shows python3.2 as the system wide default. It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have something like this: c2stable ~ # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 * [2] python3.2 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2 Available Python 2 interpreters: [1] python2.7 * c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.2 * c2stable ~ # Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the system wide default. What is the current best practice in this area? Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved) references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;) That is very nice ! :)) Thank you very much for all your help. Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but the executable only prints: Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding [1] 20570 abort blender -noaudio Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully against the systemwide python 3.2. ? How can I get blender to work? Cheers mcc Meino, First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of head banging drum riff all day night long. Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed Hydrogen to build for you? As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it. Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed? That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry. Glad Hydrogen is working for you. Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, :) currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ; :) I did it the hard way: I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build. I removed all python installation from my system except of the one emerge uses. I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends on what version of python. I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild. With eselect python I set it to python 2.7. I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out space (plan9, I think). Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its own python code is store. I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :) ;))) Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*. Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not really much more. This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often. Will see how I can fix the rest of the problems. The main problem of builing hydrogen was the python under /usr/local I think... Will see what hick up next Cheers, Meino Meino, Based on this thread's setup of python I had no trouble building the
Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 19:56]: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this opportunity. From Meino: QUOTE With eselect python list I get Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python2.7 [3] python3.1 [4] python3.2 * /QUOTE which shows python3.2 as the system wide default. It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have something like this: c2stable ~ # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 * [2] python3.2 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2 Available Python 2 interpreters: [1] python2.7 * c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.2 * c2stable ~ # Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the system wide default. What is the current best practice in this area? Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved) references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;) That is very nice ! :)) Thank you very much for all your help. Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but the executable only prints: Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding [1] 20570 abort blender -noaudio Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully against the systemwide python 3.2. ? How can I get blender to work? Cheers mcc Meino, First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of head banging drum riff all day night long. Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed Hydrogen to build for you? As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it. Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed? That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry. Glad Hydrogen is working for you. Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, :) currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ; :) I did it the hard way: I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build. I removed all python installation from my system except of the one emerge uses. I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends on what version of python. I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild. With eselect python I set it to python 2.7. I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out space (plan9, I think). Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its own python code is store. I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :) ;))) Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*. Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not really much more. This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often. Will see how I can fix the rest of the problems. The main
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
Has anyone set up lightdm? I'm using it with the default config file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log. gdm works fine. Any ideas? - Grant I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. - Grant You can type reboot or shutdown for the user then the root password and it will do as you requested. The problem there is sharing the root password on multi-user systems. - Grant do your $MAGIC in /etc/sudoers so users can run sudo shutdown -h now and no need to share root passwords Yes, but I've been in the situation with a remote machine where GDM will load but XFCE4 won't and I need the machine rebooted manually by a local user. There's always the power button but that killed a machine of mine just a few days ago. SLiM will reboot or shutdown if you enter reboot or shutdown for the username and the root password, but it doesn't seem to work if you use the password of a user with rights to reboot or shutdown. I just tried it. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 19:56]: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]: On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]: In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this opportunity. From Meino: QUOTE With eselect python list I get Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.6 [2] python2.7 [3] python3.1 [4] python3.2 * /QUOTE which shows python3.2 as the system wide default. It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have something like this: c2stable ~ # eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 * [2] python3.2 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2 Available Python 2 interpreters: [1] python2.7 * c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.2 * c2stable ~ # Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the system wide default. What is the current best practice in this area? Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved) references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;) That is very nice ! :)) Thank you very much for all your help. Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but the executable only prints: Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding [1] 20570 abort blender -noaudio Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully against the systemwide python 3.2. ? How can I get blender to work? Cheers mcc Meino, First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of head banging drum riff all day night long. Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed Hydrogen to build for you? As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it. Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed? That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry. Glad Hydrogen is working for you. Cheers, Mark Hi Mark, :) currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ; :) I did it the hard way: I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build. I removed all python installation from my system except of the one emerge uses. I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends on what version of python. I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild. With eselect python I set it to python 2.7. I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out space (plan9, I think). Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its own python code is store. I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :) ;))) Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*. Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not really much more. This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often.
[gentoo-user] screen locker
Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 21746 !!! Expected: 21479 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405 - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
120219 Hartmut Figge wrote: after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting help by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm resulting in several blank lines. i was told to use the useflag java Grudgingly, because that would install another 44 packages, i have reemerged libreoffice, but pressing F1 still doesn't call 'Help'. I removed Java from my machine a few months ago lack of internal help for LO was the only thing which disappeared. My solution was to download the LO help files from their site (PDFs), which are actually easier to read + search than the internal help. HTH -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
Am 2012-02-18 23:15, schrieb Grant: I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else? Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge?
[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote: Sounds like the internet could be switched off. So, next question, how easy would it be to get it going again? Hours? Days? Weeks? My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day. Probably on the original hardware gathering dust in the attic :p
[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
On 02/18/2012 08:35 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: * On March 8 the FBI will turn off their stand-in DNS servers. The FBI has people that know how to run a DNS server? I feel better about my tax dollars now ;) Oh, wait, I'll bet they outsource it to Google.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote: Sounds like the internet could be switched off. So, next question, how easy would it be to get it going again? Hours? Days? Weeks? My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day. Probably on the original hardware gathering dust in the attic :p I just need to figure out how to pull the backups off my old QIC-80 tapes so I can run them in dosbox. ;)
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
On 02/19/2012 08:33 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting the help of libreoffice by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm resulting in several blank lines. Trying 'loffice | tee so-log.txt' gave this: http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219-2.png (18 KB) Not very helpful. :) Well, after emerging libreoffice i was told to use the useflag java if recognizing difficulties. Grudgingly, because that would install another 44 packages, i have reemerged libreoffice. Thanks ccache this time the compilation took only 33 minutes. But pressing F1 still doesn't call 'Help'. I do not see anything related under Tools-Options but perhaps someone of you knows about a solution. :) The Help function (on my machines) displays help.libreoffice.org in my web browser. Running dbus-monitor shows the URL being sent, but I have trouble figuring out who is the receiver -- perhaps some gnome daemon that calls my gnome default web browser, but that's just a guess. Is your dbus useflag enabled?
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
Philip Webb: lack of internal help for LO was the only thing which disappeared. My solution was to download the LO help files from their site (PDFs), which are actually easier to read + search than the internal help. Isn't the help context-sensitive? Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
walt: The Help function (on my machines) displays help.libreoffice.org in my web browser. I have assumed, that the browser would be used, but i couldn't find a place in libreoffice, in which i could tell it, *what* my browser is. And if libreoffice cannot found the browser... ;) Running dbus-monitor shows the URL being sent, but I have trouble figuring out who is the receiver -- perhaps some gnome daemon that calls my gnome default web browser, but that's just a guess. Is your dbus useflag enabled? [ebuild R] app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2 USE=branding dbus gtk java nsplugin opengl python vba (-aqua) -binfilter -custom-cflags -debug -eds -gnome -graphite -gstreamer -jemalloc -kde -mysql -odk -pdfimport -test -webdav 0 kB How to tell libreoffice which browser it should use? I am not using any desktop-environment like Gnome etc., icewm is all what i need. :-D Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote: Sounds like the internet could be switched off. So, next question, how easy would it be to get it going again? Hours? Days? Weeks? My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day. Probably on the original hardware gathering dust in the attic :p I just need to figure out how to pull the backups off my old QIC-80 tapes so I can run them in dosbox. ;) To me, this is not much difference than the SOPA/PIPA mess. If they implemented that, people would have a workaround in a matter of days and it would be common knowledge. So, everyone would be doing just like they did before I still recall the days when you connected directly to a website. Our shop could connect directly to IBM to get updates, technical info and even some tech support. The shop was a IBM dealer. We also had Leading Edge computers too. Pardon me while I puke I just don't see any way for the Government to shut us down from information. It could change elections tho. Whoever did shut it down would have a problem keeping his/her job. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
Hartmut Figge: How to tell libreoffice which browser it should use? Assuming that nowadays Firefox is used by many people i experimented. hafi@i5_64 ~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/affe /usr/bin/firefox 'affe' is the name of my browser which in reality is a daily compiled trunk-seamonkey with some private patches. After setting the above link i got additional information after pressing F1 in libreoffice: hafi@i5_64 ~ $ lowriter /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 622: x-www-browser: command not found I don't know at the moment, what this xdg-open is, but it was obvious that a x-www-browser was missing. So my next step was hafi@i5_64 ~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/affe /usr/bin/x-www-browser And now pressing F1 gives me the help in my browser. :) Unfortunately not in a new window. Instead in new tabs in my running browser, and for each F1 a new tab. Bah. But that can be tweaked. But first i should look into that ominous xdg-open. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else? Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge? I'm interested to hear anyone else's opinion on this. I thought it came down to fewer dependencies, slightly lower use of system resources, and a simpler and less cluttered interface. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2012-02-18 23:15, schrieb Grant: I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else? Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge? More dependencies, more moving parts, more stuff to build, more stuff to break. And that's just a principle-driven overview. I don't have any systems not running slim right now, so I can't do a direct comparison without installing and configuring gdm. The only significant use I might require gdm for would be XDMCP support...slim doesn't appear to support that. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?
I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to restart and/or shutdown from the login screen. I had to emerge xterm to make it work BTW. Could someone point out what is bad about gdm? Does it matter that much? What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else? Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge? More dependencies, more moving parts, more stuff to build, more stuff to break. And that's just a principle-driven overview. I don't have any systems not running slim right now, so I can't do a direct comparison without installing and configuring gdm. The only significant use I might require gdm for would be XDMCP support...slim doesn't appear to support that. Same with multi-seat. GDM and lightdm both support it but slim doesn't AFAIK. - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails
Hartmut Figge: But first i should look into that ominous xdg-open. 'man xdg-open' didn't help much, but xdg-open is part of xdg-utils. And there is e.g. xdg-settings. Looking into 'man xdg-settings' and then hafi@i5_64 ~ $ xdg-settings --list Known properties: default-url-scheme-handlerDefault handler for URL scheme default-web-browser Default web browser hafi@i5_64 ~ $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment No wonder, there is not such thing as a desktop environment here. Now it seems that libreoffice assumes that it is run in a desktop environment. Grmbl. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
On 20/02/2012, at 5:14, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/18/2012 08:35 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: * On March 8 the FBI will turn off their stand-in DNS servers. The FBI has people that know how to run a DNS server? I feel better about my tax dollars now ;) Oh, wait, I'll bet they outsource it to Google. Not unless google can supply them with detailed logs for tracking/analysis ... BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:19 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 21746 !!! Expected: 21479 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405 - Grant Try building from the gentoo source instead of the overlay! -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker
Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 21746 !!! Expected: 21479 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405 - Grant Try building from the gentoo source instead of the overlay! Ashamed though I am, I don't get it. Could you elaborate just a bit? Are you saying I should build it manually? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 21746 !!! Expected: 21479 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405 - Grant I find I like slock, though it's possibly a bit excessively on the 'minimalist' side for many people. Flat blanked screen, just type the user's password and hit enter to unlock... there's no visual cues at all. It also doesn't auto-enable on a timer by itself. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:15:17PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone found a screen locker they like? I'd like to move away from xscreensaver. It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for me anymore. slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with: !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED! !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 21746 !!! Expected: 21479 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405 - Grant I find I like slock, though it's possibly a bit excessively on the 'minimalist' side for many people. Flat blanked screen, just type the user's password and hit enter to unlock... there's no visual cues at all. It also doesn't auto-enable on a timer by itself. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode. For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such as a suspend or hibernate script. However, for a traditional ss, I have been using xlock forever - many more modes than xscreensaver, and just a simple binary to worry about. Terry
Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:44:58 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use). How can I acchieve this? Put those packages in world If you don't want to clutter your world file, create a custom set in /etc/portage/sets/ and put that set in world. Same overall effect with some extra nice categorization emerge --noreplace package name. If you do it that way you will not have to rebuild it! -- Willie Matthews matthews.wil...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Downgrading gcc
Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading. Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go to gcc-4.4.5. How can I acchieve this in a clean way? Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: Downgrading gcc
On 20/02/12 06:20, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading. Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go to gcc-4.4.5. How can I acchieve this in a clean way? You don't need to downgrade. You can just emerge it alongside 4.5.3 and switch to it with gcc-config. You can switch back and forth at will, meaning that you can build specific packages with 4.4.5 and keep the rest of the packages on 4.5.3. Or if you really want everything built with 4.4.5, you can switch to it with gcc-config and then emerge -e world.
Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading gcc
Just re-emerge the older version e.g. emerge =...gcc-4.4.5 (... is the category). Then use eselect gcc or gcc-config to select the active gcc version. CMIIW Rgds, On Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading. Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go to gcc-4.4.5. How can I acchieve this in a clean way? Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: Downgrading gcc
On 20/02/12 06:38, Pandu Poluan wrote: Just re-emerge the older version e.g. emerge =...gcc-4.4.5 (... is the category). Then use eselect gcc or gcc-config to select the active gcc version. It's better to emerge it by using its slot: emerge gcc:4.4 so you can get updates normally for that slot. CMIIW Rgds, On Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5. The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading. Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go to gcc-4.4.5. How can I acchieve this in a clean way? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 20:30 -0500, Michael Trausch wrote: I liked Claws when I used it before. If you really want lightweight, though, try mutt, which is a terminal-based mail program that supports OpenPGP and IMAP. There is also a new option, but it is written in Ruby and is therefore not lightweight. But it is also a terminal client and allegedly is better than Mutt, at least in the eyes of those who wrote it. Ruby people ted to be hyperbolic, but it probably at least merits a try. I do not, however, remember its name. -- Sent from my Ice Cream Sandwich-powered HTC G2 Please excuse any typos. On Feb 18, 2012 3:32 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm loving it. What would you recommend for getting away from thunderbird? I'm looking for something simple and minimal. - Grant It's called Sup[1]. I just found it myself, and while it looks good the Ruby is putting me off, as well. I will try it soon. [1] http://sup.rubyforge.org/