Re: [gentoo-user] Slow not in sync movie playing with mplayer2, ffmpeg, x264 with intel core i5

2012-02-19 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 06:57:08PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote

  No, it is all the videos that are 720p x264.

   Is this a recently installed Gentoo?  I had a similar problem trying
 to play 1080i TV and also with NHL Gamecenter Live.  A fresh install
 will have almost all binaries using generic lowest-common-denominator
 32 or 64 bit code, so that it will work on every machine with the target
 CPU.  Once I did emerge system + emerge world + rebuilt kernel and
 rebooted, it ran fine (for a 4+ year old Dell).  Now it can handle at
 least the minimum speed for NHL Gamecenter Live, and play 1080i from the TV
 tuner.  For CPU flags I use...
 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
 CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}

  If that isn't your problem, can we see output from the 2 commands...

 cat /proc/cpuinfo (1 core is enough, thanks)

 head /proc/meminfo (does Memtotal: match what your BIOS shows on bootup?)

 --
 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org

 I did a compilation from the start. 3 times @system and 1 time @world.
I have used -march=native -mfpmath=sse and now movies do play well.
I'm still not sure why I had this problem.
I did use mmx and sse use flags, but did removed them.
Is it possible that my gcc didn't created good efficient binary before I
used recompiled world?
I really don't think so.
I didn't use -march=native, but did find what my gcc find as native
documented here:
http://gentoo-what-did-you-say.blogspot.com/2011/07/finding-cpu-flags-using-gcc.html

Regards,
Kfir


Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 03:09:28 ny6...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 12:28:44PM -0800, Grant wrote:
  I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm
  loving it.  What would you recommend for getting away from
  thunderbird?  I'm looking for something simple and minimal.
  
  - Grant
 
 I like mutt. Takes some work getting everything working, but well worth it,
 IMO. For an X application, I have tried Pan and like it pretty well. I
 always found Tbird too bloated for my taste.

I tried (every now and then) to set up mutt, but have failed to make it work 
as I would like to with gpg and s/mime certificates.  Perhaps if I had more 
time to spend to configure it I would make it work as I want it.

Meanwhile, I've frozen kdepim at 4.4 but I fear that I may have to kiss it 
good bye for good.  I'm waiting to see if the 
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/about.php will offer something that I can switch 
to as a KDEPIM suite only (I don't use the full KDE desktop, just selected 
applications).

Last time I looked Pan was a newsreader, are you saying that it also works as 
a mail client?
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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Thanasis
on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following:

 [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
  * app-office/libreoffice
 
  Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.

Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:30:23 -0800
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config
  file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm
  works fine. Any ideas?
 
  - Grant
 
  I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
  restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge
  xterm to make it work BTW.
 
  - Grant
 
 
  You can type reboot or shutdown for the user then the root password
  and it will do as you requested.
 
 The problem there is sharing the root password on multi-user systems.
 
 - Grant
 

do your $MAGIC in /etc/sudoers so users can run

sudo shutdown -h now

and no need to share root passwords

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:40:48 -0800
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and
  I'm loving it.  What would you recommend for getting away from
  thunderbird?  I'm looking for something simple and minimal.
 
  - Grant
 
 
  claws-mail
 
  It takes some getting used to as all the nice
  cute gui stuff is not present. It sends and receives mail, does a
  very good job of filtering, is somewhat passable with rendering
  html mail (and absolutely refuses to generate it). Everything else
  that bloats mail clients is absent.
 
  It goes without saying that under no circumstances must you even
  consider using kdepim
 
  Thank you all.  Loving claws-mail so far.
 
  - Grant
 
 claws-mail is great.  I tried postler too but it wouldn't work right.


How are you finding it's calendar features? I find them quite pathetic
actually but I put up with it as the alternative is sunbird or
something equally bloated


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[gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer

Hi,

I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean
even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove
packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use).

How can I acchieve this?

Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Have a nce sunday!
Best regards,
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean
 even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove
 packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use).
 
 How can I acchieve this?

Put those packages in world

If you don't want to clutter your world file, create a custom set
in /etc/portage/sets/ and put that set in world. Same overall effect
with some extra nice categorization



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 00:30:23 Grant wrote:
  Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config
  file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm
  works fine. Any ideas?
  
  - Grant
  
  I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
  restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge
  xterm to make it work BTW.
  
  - Grant
  
  You can type reboot or shutdown for the user then the root password
  and it will do as you requested.
 
 The problem there is sharing the root password on multi-user systems.

Unless you allow shutdown in sudo for your user group?

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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote:

  [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
   * app-office/libreoffice
  
   Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.  
 
 Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM.


-- 
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I heard someone tried the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays
of W. Shakespeare but all they got was the collected works of Francis
Bacon


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean
 even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove
 packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use).
 
 How can I acchieve this?

emerge -n package

Nothing in the world files is ever depcleaned.


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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote:
   [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
   
* app-office/libreoffice

Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3

  merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.
  
  Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?
 
 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM.

Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near that 
fast.  :-(

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU   Q 720  @ 1.60GHz  with 4G RAM.


 Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2
   merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds.

Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some turbo-
charged fs?
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[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Thanasis:
on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following:

 [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
  * app-office/libreoffice
 
  Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.

Impressive.

Yes. Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice
/usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction
/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@

which i just got with an i5. Should i? Should i wait for a fixed
libreoffice-bin? Hm.

Hartmut
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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:26:57 +, Mick wrote:

 * app-office/libreoffice
 
 Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
 
   merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.  
   
   Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?  
  
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM.  
 
 Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where
 near that fast.  :-(
 
 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU   Q 720  @ 1.60GHz  with 4G RAM.
 
 
  Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2
merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds.
 
 Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some
 turbo- charged fs?

Just plain old ext2. Laptops tend to have slower IO whereas I'm using
RAID1 on SATA3 hardware. Plus it is a newer CPU.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:50:47 +0100
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:

 Thanasis:
 on 02/18/2012 06:57 PM Neil Bothwick wrote the following:
 
  [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
   * app-office/libreoffice
  
   Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.
 
 Impressive.
 
 Yes. Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of
 
 hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice
 /usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction
 /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@
 
 which i just got with an i5. Should i? Should i wait for a fixed
 libreoffice-bin? Hm.

The case for compiling libreoffice is getting better all the time. Even
on older slower machines, build time is gradually coming down as the
ebuild maintainers strip out all the bundled libs that Sun added and
use system libs instead.

The days of 12 hour compiles for OOo are long gone (thankfully)


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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Meik Frischke
Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick:
 On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote:
[root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice

 * app-office/libreoffice
 
 Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
 
   merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.
   
   Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?
  
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM.
 
 Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near
 that fast.  :-(
 
 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU   Q 720  @ 1.60GHz  with 4G RAM.
 
 
  Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2
merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds.
 
 Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some
 turbo- charged fs?

IO does really slow down the compilation progress a lot. Having PORTAGE_TMPDIR 
on tmpfs saves about half an hour (compared to reiserfs on a 7200rpm disk) for 
me :
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920  @ 2.67GHz
Thu Feb 16 17:42:35 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
 merge time: 50 minutes and 39 seconds.

With 4GB Ram thats not an option for you though...

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[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

Perhaps i should consider using the source myself, because of

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ loffice
/usr/bin/loffice: line 2: 12258 Illegal instruction
/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice $@

which i just got with an i5. Should i?

That would give me these new packages

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N ] virtual/fortran-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/libevent-2.0.16  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-process/time-1.7-r1  101 kB
[ebuild  N ] app-admin/eselect-boost-0.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-util/boost-build-1.46.1  41,017 kB
[ebuild  N ] virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.024  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-3.2.1.2  13,682 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/boost-1.46.1-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-perl/Archive-Zip-1.300.0  193 kB
[ebuild  N ] sci-libs/hdf5-1.8.4-r1  7,013 kB
[ebuild  N ] sci-libs/fftw-3.2.2  3,414 kB
[ebuild  N ] virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] media-libs/vigra-1.7.1-r1  27,814 kB
[ebuild  N ] net-libs/xulrunner-1.9.2.20  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-util/mdds-0.5.3-r1  90 kB
[ebuild  N ] app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2  240,214 kB

Total: 16 packages (16 new),

Should i wait for a fixed libreoffice-bin? Hm.

libreoffice-bin doesn't require the above packages. Perhaps it failes
therefore? *g*

Hartmut
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Again about a gentoo vm appliance for vbox

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 08:36:29 -0500
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 Alan responded:
  Try this. Attached is a .config for 2.6.39 that works and boots just
  fine in a default VBox vm using AHCI SATA controller as provided by
  vbox.   
 
 [...]
 
 Thanks for posting the .config.  I didn't just use that to get a
 working kernel but took a chance with your .config as basis at
 configuring a more recent kernel.  So By bouncing your config up to
 3.2.6 kernel and subtracting/adding a few things I thought of I did
 get a working install.
 
 It must be the first time out of quite a few tries over mnths and even
 yrs. 

Glad to be able to help.

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[gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer

Hi

After an

emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp

I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me?



These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies /

!!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected 


... done!

!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet 
requirements.
- dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python 
-static-libs -threads

The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
cxx? ( threads )

(dependency required by @selected [set])
(dependency required by @world [argument])
[1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep 
world -vp

Thank you very much in advance for a help...

Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 7:48 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi

 After an

    emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp

 I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me?



    These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

    Calculating dependencies /

    !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected    
                                                                               
                                                                               
      ... done!

    !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet 
 requirements.
    - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python 
 -static-libs -threads

    The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
        cxx? ( threads )

    (dependency required by @selected [set])
    (dependency required by @world [argument])
    [1]    19260 exit 1     emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep 
 world -vp

 Thank you very much in advance for a help...

 Best regards,
 mcc





It says you need to enable threads if you want c++ support. (If cxx
useflag is present, check for threads useflag).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Jarry

I have seen this message yesterday.
Just add dev-libs/beecrypt threads to /etc/portage/package.use
and you'll be fine...

Jarry

On 19-Feb-12 15:18, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
 Calculating dependencies /

 !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from @selected


 ... done!

 !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet 
requirements.
 - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java -python 
-static-libs -threads

 The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
 cxx? ( threads )

 (dependency required by @selected [set])
 (dependency required by @world [argument])
 [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep 
world -vp


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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 12:57:51 Meik Frischke wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick:
  On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote:
   On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote:
 [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
 
  * app-office/libreoffice
  
  Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
  
merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.

Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?
   
   Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM.
  
  Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where near
  that fast.  :-(
  
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU   Q 720  @ 1.60GHz  with 4G RAM.
  
   Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2
   
 merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds.
  
  Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some
  turbo- charged fs?
 
 IO does really slow down the compilation progress a lot. Having
 PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs saves about half an hour (compared to reiserfs on
 a 7200rpm disk) for me :
 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920  @ 2.67GHz
   Thu Feb 16 17:42:35 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
  merge time: 50 minutes and 39 seconds.
 
 With 4GB Ram thats not an option for you though...

My /var partition is on ext4.

My CPU is admittedly slower, but even so I wouldn't think that it would take 
more than _twice_ as long as Neil's.
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Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Alecks Gates
I would be curious to see the results of compiling libreoffice with
PORTAGE_TMPDIR on btrfs with compress=lzo.
On Feb 19, 2012 9:37 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 12:57:51 Meik Frischke wrote:
  Am Sonntag, 19. Februar 2012, 12:26:57 schrieb Mick:
   On Sunday 19 Feb 2012 11:45:25 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:58:35 +0200, Thanasis wrote:
  [root@hactar ~ 0]% genlop -t libreoffice
 
   * app-office/libreoffice
 
   Wed Feb 15 10:23:58 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
 
 merge time: 40 minutes and 52 seconds.

 Impressive. What's your hardware configuration, Neil?
   
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz with 16GB RAM.
  
   Hmm ... I've got a 1st generation i7 on my laptop and it is no-where
 near
   that fast.  :-(
  
   Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU   Q 720  @ 1.60GHz  with 4G RAM.
  
Sun Jan 29 21:47:46 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2
  
  merge time: 1 hour, 34 minutes and 43 seconds.
  
   Is it just down to the CPU or are you running /var/tmp/portage on some
   turbo- charged fs?
 
  IO does really slow down the compilation progress a lot. Having
  PORTAGE_TMPDIR on tmpfs saves about half an hour (compared to reiserfs on
  a 7200rpm disk) for me :
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920  @ 2.67GHz
Thu Feb 16 17:42:35 2012  app-office/libreoffice-3.5.0.3
   merge time: 50 minutes and 39 seconds.
 
  With 4GB Ram thats not an option for you though...

 My /var partition is on ext4.

 My CPU is admittedly slower, but even so I wouldn't think that it would
 take
 more than _twice_ as long as Neil's.
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 Regards,
 Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com [12-02-19 15:32]:
 I have seen this message yesterday.
 Just add dev-libs/beecrypt threads to /etc/portage/package.use
 and you'll be fine...
 
 Jarry
 
 On 19-Feb-12 15:18, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
  Calculating dependencies /
 
  !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from 
 @selected  

 ... done!
 
  !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet 
 requirements.
  - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java 
 -python -static-libs -threads
 
  The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
  cxx? ( threads )
 
  (dependency required by @selected [set])
  (dependency required by @world [argument])
  [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree 
 --deep world -vp
 
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Thanks a lot for your help! I was unsure about this cause of
the question mark after cxx...

Best regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:18:28 +0100
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 
 Hi
 
 After an
 
 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree --deep world -vp
 
 I got this output. What does the line with cxx? want say to me?
 
 
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
 
 Calculating dependencies /
 
 !!! Problem resolving dependencies for dev-libs/beecrypt from
 @selected 
   
   ...
 done!
 
 !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy dev-libs/beecrypt has unmet
 requirements.
 - dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1::gentoo USE=cxx (multilib) -doc -java
 -python -static-libs -threads
 
 The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
 cxx? ( threads )
 
 (dependency required by @selected [set])
 (dependency required by @world [argument])
 [1]19260 exit 1 emerge --color=n --newuse --update --tree
 --deep world -vp
 
 Thank you very much in advance for a help...

It means that if you have USE=cxx set for dev-libs/beecrypt, then you
must also have USE=threads set for the package. Note that it only
applies to this package, it doesn't mean you must set the flags
globally.

The emerge output shows that you indeed have not met these
requirements. You must either unset cxx or set threads.



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic output from emerge

2012-02-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:48:29 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

   The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
   cxx? ( threads )

 Thanks a lot for your help! I was unsure about this cause of
 the question mark after cxx...

It's a conditional, it basically means

if USE contains cxx then USE must contain threads.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?


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[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-bin-3.4.5.2 broken ?

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

libreoffice-bin doesn't require the above packages. Perhaps it failes
therefore? *g*

No. I had emerged them with oneshot to test that and to avoid, that
emerging them would count to the time required to emerge libreoffice.

Here are the results for my machine.
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 760  @ 2.80GHz with 16GB RAM.

i5_64 hafi # time emerge libreoffice

real72m45.187s
user178m12.372s
sys 16m49.719s

In case someone is interested what happened during compiling:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219.png (9 KB)

Hartmut
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Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]:
 In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble
 emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I
 don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back
 to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this
 opportunity.

 From Meino:

 QUOTE
 With

    eselect python list

 I get

 Available Python interpreters:
  [1]   python2.6
  [2]   python2.7
  [3]   python3.1
  [4]   python3.2 *
 /QUOTE

 which shows python3.2 as the system wide default.

    It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any
 python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of
 python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have
 something like this:

 c2stable ~ # eselect python list
 Available Python interpreters:
   [1]   python2.7 *
   [2]   python3.2
 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2
 Available Python 2 interpreters:
   [1]   python2.7 *
 c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3
 Available Python 3 interpreters:
   [1]   python3.2 *
 c2stable ~ #

    Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and
 running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However
 no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which
 makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the
 system wide default.

    What is the current best practice in this area?

 Cheers,
 Mark


 Hi Mark,

 after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved)
 references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;)
 That is very nice ! :))

 Thank you very much for all your help.

 Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but
 the executable only prints:

    Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
    LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding
    [1]    20570 abort      blender -noaudio

 Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully
 against the systemwide python 3.2. ?

 How can I get blender to work?

 Cheers
 mcc

Meino,
   First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of
head banging drum riff all day  night long.

   Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact
what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots
of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed
Hydrogen to build for you?

   As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it.
Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's
standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically
said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed?

   That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really
haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry.

   Glad Hydrogen is working for you.

Cheers,
Mark



[gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-02-18, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm
 loving it.  What would you recommend for getting away from
 thunderbird?  I'm looking for something simple and minimal.

mutt





[gentoo-user] libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings,

after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting the help of
libreoffice by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the
xterm resulting in several blank lines. Trying 'loffice | tee
so-log.txt' gave this:

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219-2.png (18 KB)

Not very helpful. :) Well, after emerging libreoffice i was told to use
the useflag java if recognizing difficulties. Grudgingly, because that
would install another 44 packages, i have reemerged libreoffice. Thanks
ccache this time the compilation took only 33 minutes.

But pressing F1 still doesn't call 'Help'. I do not see anything related
under Tools-Options but perhaps someone of you knows about a solution. :)

Hartmut
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Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]:
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]:
  In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble
  emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I
  don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back
  to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this
  opportunity.
 
  From Meino:
 
  QUOTE
  With
 
     eselect python list
 
  I get
 
  Available Python interpreters:
   [1]   python2.6
   [2]   python2.7
   [3]   python3.1
   [4]   python3.2 *
  /QUOTE
 
  which shows python3.2 as the system wide default.
 
     It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any
  python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of
  python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have
  something like this:
 
  c2stable ~ # eselect python list
  Available Python interpreters:
    [1]   python2.7 *
    [2]   python3.2
  c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2
  Available Python 2 interpreters:
    [1]   python2.7 *
  c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3
  Available Python 3 interpreters:
    [1]   python3.2 *
  c2stable ~ #
 
     Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and
  running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However
  no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which
  makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the
  system wide default.
 
     What is the current best practice in this area?
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved)
  references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;)
  That is very nice ! :))
 
  Thank you very much for all your help.
 
  Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but
  the executable only prints:
 
     Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
     LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding
     [1]    20570 abort      blender -noaudio
 
  Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully
  against the systemwide python 3.2. ?
 
  How can I get blender to work?
 
  Cheers
  mcc
 
 Meino,
First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of
 head banging drum riff all day  night long.
 
Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact
 what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots
 of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed
 Hydrogen to build for you?
 
As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it.
 Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's
 standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically
 said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed?
 
That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really
 haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry.
 
Glad Hydrogen is working for you.
 
 Cheers,
 Mark
 

Hi Mark,

:)  

currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ;

:)

I did it the hard way:
I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need
to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build.

I removed all python installation from my system except of the one
emerge uses.

I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends
on what version of python.

I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by
other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed

I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from
the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild.

With eselect python I set it to python 2.7.

I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out
space (plan9, I think).

Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide
python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously 
under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its
own python code is store.

I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from
the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :)
;)))

Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against
libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*.

Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately
the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not
really much more.

This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often.

Will see how I can fix the rest of the problems.

The main problem of builing hydrogen was the python under /usr/local
I think...

Will see what hick up next 

Cheers,
Meino







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 02/19/12 11:02, Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2012-02-18, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys) and I'm
 loving it.  What would you recommend for getting away from
 thunderbird?  I'm looking for something simple and minimal.
 
 mutt
 

I loved mutt, but search in subfolders is really not an optional feature.



[gentoo-user] [OT] Proxytunnel through nginx

2012-02-19 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I am trying to set up a reverse-proxy at my home to be able to by-pass 
restrictive firewalls that only allow http/https traffic.

So I configured nginx as a reverse-proxy to send connections to the sshd at the 
home server.  However, I fail to establish a connection.  The connection 
attempt errors out with:

$ ssh root@192.168.1.5
SSL enabled
Connected to XXX.XX.XXX.XX:443 (local proxy)

Tunneling to 192.168.1.5:22 (destination)
Communication with local proxy:
 - CONNECT 192.168.1.5:22 HTTP/1.0
 - Proxy-Connection: Keep-Alive
analyze_HTTP: readline failed: Connection closed by remote host
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host

where XXX is the public IP address of my server.

the proxy tunnel command is as follows:

 /usr/bin/proxytunnel -v -e -p XXX.XX.XXX.XX:443 -R user:'secretpasswd' -d 
192.168.1.5:22

The relevant nginx entries are as follows:

upstream tunnel {
server 127.0.0.1:22;
}

server {
listen   443;
server_name  localhost;

ssl  on;
ssl_certificate  certs/cert.pem;   
ssl_certificate_key  certs/cert.key;
ssl_session_timeout  5m;
keepalive_timeout   70;

location /  {
auth_basic  Restricted;
auth_basic_user_file.htpasswd_slug;
#   proxy_pass http://tunnel;
proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1;
proxy_buffering off;
proxy_set_header Host $host;
proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
proxy_redirect off;
}
}



The nginx error logs don't show anything, so I'm thinking there's something 
that the sshd does not like, but even when I increase the debug level in the 
sshd_config nothing shows up.  This means that the remote client never reaches 
as far as the sshd server (nginx and sshd are both running on the same host).

Any idea what causes this problem?

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]:
 On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]:
  In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble
  emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I
  don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back
  to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this
  opportunity.
 
  From Meino:
 
  QUOTE
  With
 
     eselect python list
 
  I get
 
  Available Python interpreters:
   [1]   python2.6
   [2]   python2.7
   [3]   python3.1
   [4]   python3.2 *
  /QUOTE
 
  which shows python3.2 as the system wide default.
 
     It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any
  python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of
  python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have
  something like this:
 
  c2stable ~ # eselect python list
  Available Python interpreters:
    [1]   python2.7 *
    [2]   python3.2
  c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2
  Available Python 2 interpreters:
    [1]   python2.7 *
  c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3
  Available Python 3 interpreters:
    [1]   python3.2 *
  c2stable ~ #
 
     Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and
  running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However
  no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which
  makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the
  system wide default.
 
     What is the current best practice in this area?
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved)
  references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;)
  That is very nice ! :))
 
  Thank you very much for all your help.
 
  Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but
  the executable only prints:
 
     Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
     LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding
     [1]    20570 abort      blender -noaudio
 
  Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully
  against the systemwide python 3.2. ?
 
  How can I get blender to work?
 
  Cheers
  mcc

 Meino,
    First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of
 head banging drum riff all day  night long.

    Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact
 what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots
 of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed
 Hydrogen to build for you?

    As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it.
 Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's
 standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically
 said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed?

    That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really
 haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry.

    Glad Hydrogen is working for you.

 Cheers,
 Mark


 Hi Mark,

 :)

 currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ;

 :)

 I did it the hard way:
 I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need
 to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build.

 I removed all python installation from my system except of the one
 emerge uses.

 I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends
 on what version of python.

 I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by
 other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed

 I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from
 the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild.

 With eselect python I set it to python 2.7.

 I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out
 space (plan9, I think).

 Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide
 python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously
 under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its
 own python code is store.

 I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from
 the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :)
 ;)))

 Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against
 libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*.

 Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately
 the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not
 really much more.

 This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often.

 Will see how I can fix the rest of the problems.

 The main problem of builing hydrogen was the python under /usr/local
 I think...

 Will see what hick up next 

 Cheers,
 Meino

Meino,
   Based on this thread's setup of python I had no trouble building
the 

Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 19:56]:
 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]:
  On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
   Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]:
   In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble
   emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I
   don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back
   to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this
   opportunity.
  
   From Meino:
  
   QUOTE
   With
  
      eselect python list
  
   I get
  
   Available Python interpreters:
    [1]   python2.6
    [2]   python2.7
    [3]   python3.1
    [4]   python3.2 *
   /QUOTE
  
   which shows python3.2 as the system wide default.
  
      It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any
   python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of
   python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have
   something like this:
  
   c2stable ~ # eselect python list
   Available Python interpreters:
     [1]   python2.7 *
     [2]   python3.2
   c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2
   Available Python 2 interpreters:
     [1]   python2.7 *
   c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3
   Available Python 3 interpreters:
     [1]   python3.2 *
   c2stable ~ #
  
      Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and
   running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However
   no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which
   makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the
   system wide default.
  
      What is the current best practice in this area?
  
   Cheers,
   Mark
  
  
   Hi Mark,
  
   after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved)
   references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;)
   That is very nice ! :))
  
   Thank you very much for all your help.
  
   Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but
   the executable only prints:
  
      Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
      LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find encoding
      [1]    20570 abort      blender -noaudio
  
   Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully
   against the systemwide python 3.2. ?
  
   How can I get blender to work?
  
   Cheers
   mcc
 
  Meino,
     First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of
  head banging drum riff all day  night long.
 
     Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact
  what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots
  of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed
  Hydrogen to build for you?
 
     As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it.
  Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's
  standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically
  said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed?
 
     That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really
  haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry.
 
     Glad Hydrogen is working for you.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  :)
 
  currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ;
 
  :)
 
  I did it the hard way:
  I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need
  to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build.
 
  I removed all python installation from my system except of the one
  emerge uses.
 
  I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends
  on what version of python.
 
  I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by
  other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed
 
  I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from
  the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild.
 
  With eselect python I set it to python 2.7.
 
  I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out
  space (plan9, I think).
 
  Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide
  python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously
  under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its
  own python code is store.
 
  I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from
  the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :)
  ;)))
 
  Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against
  libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*.
 
  Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately
  the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not
  really much more.
 
  This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often.
 
  Will see how I can fix the rest of the problems.
 
  The main 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
  Has anyone set up lightdm?  I'm using it with the default config
  file but I get a black screen with no error in Xorg.0.log.  gdm
  works fine. Any ideas?
 
  - Grant
 
  I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
  restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge
  xterm to make it work BTW.
 
  - Grant
 
 
  You can type reboot or shutdown for the user then the root password
  and it will do as you requested.

 The problem there is sharing the root password on multi-user systems.

 - Grant


 do your $MAGIC in /etc/sudoers so users can run

 sudo shutdown -h now

 and no need to share root passwords

Yes, but I've been in the situation with a remote machine where GDM
will load but XFCE4 won't and I need the machine rebooted manually by
a local user.  There's always the power button but that killed a
machine of mine just a few days ago.  SLiM will reboot or shutdown if
you enter reboot or shutdown for the username and the root password,
but it doesn't seem to work if you use the password of a user with
rights to reboot or shutdown.  I just tried it.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] python 2.x vs 3.x

2012-02-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 19:56]:
 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 8:37 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 16:52]:
  On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 11:24 PM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
   Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [12-02-19 03:13]:
   In a current thread started by Meino where he is having trouble
   emerging hydrogen he reported the following quoted data to Neil. I
   don't believe Neil has responded yet but Meino's data brought me back
   to a question I've meant to ask for a while so I'll take this
   opportunity.
  
   From Meino:
  
   QUOTE
   With
  
      eselect python list
  
   I get
  
   Available Python interpreters:
    [1]   python2.6
    [2]   python2.7
    [3]   python3.1
    [4]   python3.2 *
   /QUOTE
  
   which shows python3.2 as the system wide default.
  
      It's been my understanding ever since we first emerged any
   python-3.x version that we were not supposed to set any version of
   python3 as the system wide default. On all of my systems I have
   something like this:
  
   c2stable ~ # eselect python list
   Available Python interpreters:
     [1]   python2.7 *
     [2]   python3.2
   c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python2
   Available Python 2 interpreters:
     [1]   python2.7 *
   c2stable ~ # eselect python list --python3
   Available Python 3 interpreters:
     [1]   python3.2 *
   c2stable ~ #
  
      Now, like Paul Hartman I didn't have any trouble building and
   running Hydrogen as a Jack client. It works just fine for me. However
   no one else seemed to have picked up on Meino's configuration which
   makes me wonder if I missed the memo to make the 3.x version of the
   system wide default.
  
      What is the current best practice in this area?
  
   Cheers,
   Mark
  
  
   Hi Mark,
  
   after a lot of revdep-rebuilds and unresolved (or over-resolved)
   references hydrogen builds fine. TADA! ;)
   That is very nice ! :))
  
   Thank you very much for all your help.
  
   Unfortunately the svn-build of blender builds, but
   the executable only prints:
  
      Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
      LookupError: no codec search functions registered: can't find 
   encoding
      [1]    20570 abort      blender -noaudio
  
   Does anyone has built a daily snapshot of the svn blender successfully
   against the systemwide python 3.2. ?
  
   How can I get blender to work?
  
   Cheers
   mcc
 
  Meino,
     First, congrats on getting Hydrogen going. May your life be full of
  head banging drum riff all day  night long.
 
     Now, can you verify that the system wide python setting was in fact
  what made it build on your system? I know you were doing lots and lots
  of things. Was switching this back to 2.7 the thing that allowed
  Hydrogen to build for you?
 
     As for Blender I really don't know what to do as I've never run it.
  Are you building Blender from an overlay or standard portage? If it's
  standard portage, and if the ebuild maintainer hasn't specifically
  said that you have to use 3.x then should a bug report be filed?
 
     That may make no sense on other information you posted. I really
  haven't paid any attention to that part. Sorry.
 
     Glad Hydrogen is working for you.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
 
  Hi Mark,
 
  :)
 
  currently the rest of my gentoo system is banging my head... ;
 
  :)
 
  I did it the hard way:
  I threw away the installation of python-3.2 in /usr/local which I need
  to compile blender. Effect: Blender does no longer build.
 
  I removed all python installation from my system except of the one
  emerge uses.
 
  I did a revdep-rebuild -pv to see, what applications and libs depends
  on what version of python.
 
  I filtered out all package which looks like libs or things used by
  other programs and tried to build them against python 3.2: Some failed
 
  I reinstalled python all versions of python, which were needed from
  the dependencies shown by revdep rebuild.
 
  With eselect python I set it to python 2.7.
 
  I rebuild hydrogen, which wasn't confused by linux3 setting from out
  space (plan9, I think).
 
  Blender now builds and runs. The trick was, that the system wide
  python 3.2 (which blender needs) uses lib64 while the previously
  under /usr/local installed one uses lib as the directory where its
  own python code is store.
 
  I build blender by myself. The pure vanilla code, freshly taken from
  the developpers svn repository. No patch, no tweak. The real thing :)
  ;)))
 
  Unfortunately blender spit out messages, that it is built against
  libpng-1.2.27 ... and the whole systems only contains libpng-1.5*.
 
  Currently I have no clue, what the reasons fro this is. Unfortunately
  the CUDE renderer fails to do its job. I can start blender...but not
  really much more.
 
  This was a day in deep hack mode. Strace was my friend...as so often.
 
  

[gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away
from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for
me anymore.

slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with:

!!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED!
!!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
!!! Got:  21746
!!! Expected: 21479

and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Philip Webb
120219 Hartmut Figge wrote:
 after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting help by pressing F1.
 No luck, something flashed shortly on the xterm
 resulting in several blank lines.  i was told to use the useflag java
 Grudgingly, because that would install another 44 packages,
 i have reemerged libreoffice, but pressing F1 still doesn't call 'Help'.

I removed Java from my machine a few months ago
 lack of internal help for LO was the only thing which disappeared.
My solution was to download the LO help files from their site (PDFs),
which are actually easier to read + search than the internal help.

HTH

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2012-02-18 23:15, schrieb Grant:

 I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
 restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm
 to make it work BTW.

Could someone point out what is bad about gdm?
Does it matter that much?

What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else?

Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge?




[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread walt
On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote:

 Sounds like the internet could be switched off.  So, next question, how
 easy would it be to get it going again?  Hours?  Days?  Weeks?

My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old
dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day.  Probably on the original
hardware gathering dust in the attic :p




[gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread walt
On 02/18/2012 08:35 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:

 * On March 8 the FBI will turn off their stand-in DNS servers.

The FBI has people that know how to run a DNS server?  I feel better
about my tax dollars now ;)  Oh, wait, I'll bet they outsource it to
Google.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote:

 Sounds like the internet could be switched off.  So, next question, how
 easy would it be to get it going again?  Hours?  Days?  Weeks?

 My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old
 dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day.  Probably on the original
 hardware gathering dust in the attic :p

I just need to figure out how to pull the backups off my old QIC-80
tapes so I can run them in dosbox. ;)



[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread walt
On 02/19/2012 08:33 AM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 after emerging libreoffice-3.4.5.2 i tried getting the help of
 libreoffice by pressing F1. No luck, something flashed shortly on the
 xterm resulting in several blank lines. Trying 'loffice | tee
 so-log.txt' gave this:
 
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/lo120219-2.png (18 KB)
 
 Not very helpful. :) Well, after emerging libreoffice i was told to use
 the useflag java if recognizing difficulties. Grudgingly, because that
 would install another 44 packages, i have reemerged libreoffice. Thanks
 ccache this time the compilation took only 33 minutes.
 
 But pressing F1 still doesn't call 'Help'. I do not see anything related
 under Tools-Options but perhaps someone of you knows about a solution. :)

The Help function (on my machines) displays help.libreoffice.org in my web
browser.  Running dbus-monitor shows the URL being sent, but I have trouble
figuring out who is the receiver -- perhaps some gnome daemon that calls my
gnome default web browser, but that's just a guess.

Is your dbus useflag enabled?




[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Philip Webb:

 lack of internal help for LO was the only thing which disappeared.
My solution was to download the LO help files from their site (PDFs),
which are actually easier to read + search than the internal help.

Isn't the help context-sensitive?

Hartmut
-- 
Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/
Von Usern fuer User  :-)




[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
walt:

The Help function (on my machines) displays help.libreoffice.org in my web
browser.

I have assumed, that the browser would be used, but i couldn't find a
place in libreoffice, in which i could tell it, *what* my browser is.
And if libreoffice cannot found the browser... ;)

 Running dbus-monitor shows the URL being sent, but I have trouble
figuring out who is the receiver -- perhaps some gnome daemon that calls my
gnome default web browser, but that's just a guess.

Is your dbus useflag enabled?

[ebuild   R] app-office/libreoffice-3.4.5.2  USE=branding dbus gtk
java nsplugin opengl python vba (-aqua) -binfilter -custom-cflags -debug
-eds -gnome -graphite -gstreamer -jemalloc -kde -mysql -odk -pdfimport
-test -webdav 0 kB

How to tell libreoffice which browser it should use? I am not using any
desktop-environment like Gnome etc., icewm is all what i need. :-D

Hartmut
-- 
Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/
Von Usern fuer User  :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/18/2012 05:18 AM, Dale wrote:

 Sounds like the internet could be switched off.  So, next question, how
 easy would it be to get it going again?  Hours?  Days?  Weeks?

 My guess is that the old farts that read this list could have their old
 dialup bulletin boards back on line in a day.  Probably on the original
 hardware gathering dust in the attic :p
 
 I just need to figure out how to pull the backups off my old QIC-80
 tapes so I can run them in dosbox. ;)
 
 


To me, this is not much difference than the SOPA/PIPA mess.  If they
implemented that, people would have a workaround in a matter of days and
it would be common knowledge.  So, everyone would be doing just like
they did before

I still recall the days when you connected directly to a website.  Our
shop could connect directly to IBM to get updates, technical info and
even some tech support.  The shop was a IBM dealer.  We also had Leading
Edge computers too.   Pardon me while I puke   I just don't see any
way for the Government to shut us down from information.  It could
change elections tho.  Whoever did shut it down would have a problem
keeping his/her job.

Dale

:-)  :-)


-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n



[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

How to tell libreoffice which browser it should use?

Assuming that nowadays Firefox is used by many people i experimented.

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/affe /usr/bin/firefox

'affe' is the name of my browser which in reality is a daily compiled
trunk-seamonkey with some private patches.

After setting the above link i got additional information after pressing
F1 in libreoffice:

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ lowriter
/usr/bin/xdg-open: line 622: x-www-browser: command not found

I don't know at the moment, what this xdg-open is, but it was obvious
that a x-www-browser was missing. So my next step was

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/affe /usr/bin/x-www-browser

And now pressing F1 gives me the help in my browser. :)
Unfortunately not in a new window. Instead in new tabs in my running
browser, and for each F1 a new tab. Bah. But that can be tweaked.

But first i should look into that ominous xdg-open.

Hartmut
-- 
Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/
Von Usern fuer User  :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
 I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
 restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm
 to make it work BTW.

 Could someone point out what is bad about gdm?
 Does it matter that much?

 What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else?

 Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge?

I'm interested to hear anyone else's opinion on this.  I thought it
came down to fewer dependencies, slightly lower use of system
resources, and a simpler and less cluttered interface.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
 Am 2012-02-18 23:15, schrieb Grant:

 I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
 restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm
 to make it work BTW.

 Could someone point out what is bad about gdm?
 Does it matter that much?

 What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else?

 Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge?

More dependencies, more moving parts, more stuff to build, more stuff
to break. And that's just a principle-driven overview. I don't have
any systems not running slim right now, so I can't do a direct
comparison without installing and configuring gdm.

The only significant use I might require gdm for would be XDMCP
support...slim doesn't appear to support that.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anybody using lightdm?

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
 I switched to SLiM and I like it but I wish there were a way to
 restart and/or shutdown from the login screen.  I had to emerge xterm
 to make it work BTW.

 Could someone point out what is bad about gdm?
 Does it matter that much?

 What advantages does it have to use lightdm/slim/something else?

 Does it matter on modern powerful machines? Less packages to merge?

 More dependencies, more moving parts, more stuff to build, more stuff
 to break. And that's just a principle-driven overview. I don't have
 any systems not running slim right now, so I can't do a direct
 comparison without installing and configuring gdm.

 The only significant use I might require gdm for would be XDMCP
 support...slim doesn't appear to support that.

Same with multi-seat.  GDM and lightdm both support it but slim doesn't AFAIK.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: libreoffice-3.4.5.2: getting LibreOffice Help fails

2012-02-19 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

But first i should look into that ominous xdg-open.

'man xdg-open' didn't help much, but xdg-open is part of xdg-utils. And
there is e.g. xdg-settings. Looking into 'man xdg-settings' and then

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ xdg-settings --list
Known properties:
  default-url-scheme-handlerDefault handler for URL scheme
  default-web-browser   Default web browser
hafi@i5_64 ~ $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment

No wonder, there is not such thing as a desktop environment here. Now it
seems that libreoffice assumes that it is run in a desktop environment.
Grmbl.

Hartmut
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Von Usern fuer User  :-)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-19 Thread wdk@moriah


On 20/02/2012, at 5:14, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 02/18/2012 08:35 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
 
 * On March 8 the FBI will turn off their stand-in DNS servers.
 
 The FBI has people that know how to run a DNS server?  I feel better
 about my tax dollars now ;)  Oh, wait, I'll bet they outsource it to
 Google.
 
 
Not unless google can supply them with detailed logs for tracking/analysis ...

BillK





Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Willie Matthews
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:19 -0800
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away
 from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for
 me anymore.
 
 slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay
 fails with:
 
 !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED!
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got:  21746
 !!! Expected: 21479
 
 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging:
 
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405
 
 - Grant
 

Try building from the gentoo source instead of the overlay!

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com



Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Grant
 Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away
 from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for
 me anymore.

 slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay
 fails with:

 !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED!
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got:      21746
 !!! Expected: 21479

 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging:

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405

 - Grant


 Try building from the gentoo source instead of the overlay!

Ashamed though I am, I don't get it.  Could you elaborate just a bit?
Are you saying I should build it manually?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away
 from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for
 me anymore.

 slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with:

 !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED!
 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
 !!! Got:      21746
 !!! Expected: 21479

 and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging:

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405

 - Grant


I find I like slock, though it's possibly a bit excessively on the
'minimalist' side for many people. Flat blanked screen, just type the
user's password and hit enter to unlock... there's no visual cues at
all. It also doesn't auto-enable on a timer by itself.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-19 Thread ny6p01
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:15:17PM -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Has anyone found a screen locker they like?  I'd like to move away
  from xscreensaver.  It seems bloated plus it isn't working right for
  me anymore.
 
  slimlock looks interesting but the ebuild in the miramir overlay fails with:
 
  !!! Fetched file: slimlock-.tar.gz VERIFY FAILED!
  !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size
  !!! Got:      21746
  !!! Expected: 21479
 
  and the comments in this bug aren't encouraging:
 
  https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366405
 
  - Grant
 
 
 I find I like slock, though it's possibly a bit excessively on the
 'minimalist' side for many people. Flat blanked screen, just type the
 user's password and hit enter to unlock... there's no visual cues at
 all. It also doesn't auto-enable on a timer by itself.
 
 -- 
 Poison [BLX]
 Joshua M. Murphy
 

I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you
can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode.
For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such as a suspend
or hibernate script. However, for a traditional ss, I have been using xlock
forever - many more modes than xscreensaver, and just a simple binary to
worry about.

Terry



Re: [gentoo-user] How to acchieve the opposite of 'provided'...so to say ?

2012-02-19 Thread Willie Matthews
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:44:58 +0200
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:35:32 +0100
 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  
  Hi,
  
  I want to make certain packages immune against emerge --depclean
  even when startet without --pretend (or other actions to remove
  packages which emerge evaluates as obsoloted and no longe in use).
  
  How can I acchieve this?
 
 Put those packages in world
 
 If you don't want to clutter your world file, create a custom set
 in /etc/portage/sets/ and put that set in world. Same overall effect
 with some extra nice categorization
 
 
 

emerge --noreplace package name. If you do it that way you will not
have to rebuild it!

-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.wil...@gmail.com



[gentoo-user] Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5.

The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward
compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading.

Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go 
to gcc-4.4.5.

How can I acchieve this in a clean way?

Best regards,
mcc









[gentoo-user] Re: Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 20/02/12 06:20, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5.

The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward
compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading.

Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go
to gcc-4.4.5.

How can I acchieve this in a clean way?


You don't need to downgrade.  You can just emerge it alongside 4.5.3 and 
switch to it with gcc-config.  You can switch back and forth at will, 
meaning that you can build specific packages with 4.4.5 and keep the 
rest of the packages on 4.5.3.


Or if you really want everything built with 4.4.5, you can switch to it 
with gcc-config and then emerge -e world.





Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
Just re-emerge the older version e.g. emerge =...gcc-4.4.5 (... is the
category). Then use eselect gcc or gcc-config to select the active gcc
version.

CMIIW

Rgds,
 On Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hi,

 I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5.

 The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward
 compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading.

 Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go
 to gcc-4.4.5.

 How can I acchieve this in a clean way?

 Best regards,
 mcc










[gentoo-user] Re: Downgrading gcc

2012-02-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 20/02/12 06:38, Pandu Poluan wrote:

Just re-emerge the older version e.g. emerge =...gcc-4.4.5 (... is the
category). Then use eselect gcc or gcc-config to select the active gcc
version.


It's better to emerge it by using its slot:

  emerge gcc:4.4

so you can get updates normally for that slot.





CMIIW

Rgds,

On Feb 20, 2012 11:24 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de
mailto:meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

I want to downgrade gcc from 4.5.3-r1 to 4.4.5.

The Gentoo gcc UPgrade guide tells me, that ABI are only upward
compatible which implies problems when downgrading and not upgrading.

Nonetheless a downgrade is needed here and I want to go
to gcc-4.4.5.

How can I acchieve this in a clean way?

Best regards,
mcc













Re: [gentoo-user] alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-19 Thread Fuzz
On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 20:30 -0500, Michael Trausch wrote:

 I liked Claws when I used it before. If you really want lightweight,
 though, try mutt, which is a terminal-based mail program that supports
 OpenPGP and IMAP.
 
 There is also a new option, but it is written in Ruby and is therefore
 not lightweight. But it is also a terminal client and allegedly is
 better than Mutt, at least in the eyes of those who wrote it. Ruby
 people ted to be hyperbolic, but it probably at least merits a try. I
 do not, however, remember its name.
 
 --
 Sent from my Ice Cream Sandwich-powered HTC G2
 Please excuse any typos.
 
 
 On Feb 18, 2012 3:32 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just switched from firefox to chromium (thanks to you guys)
 and I'm
 loving it.  What would you recommend for getting away from
 thunderbird?  I'm looking for something simple and minimal.
 
 - Grant
 
It's called Sup[1].  I just found it myself, and while it looks good the
Ruby is putting me off, as well.  I will try it soon.

[1] http://sup.rubyforge.org/