Re: [gentoo-user] Who sets the symlink /dev/rtc = /dev/rtc0 ?
On 26/08/2013 05:30, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net [13-08-26 04:35]:
130825 Pavel Volkov suggested:
On Sunday 25 August 2013 20:26:32 meino.cra...@gmx.de asked:
So...which ghost in my system dares to set the symlink /dev/rtc
to point to /dev/rtc0 instead of /dev/rtc1 ???
I bet it's /usr/lib64/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules
I have /usr/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules (on a 64-bit system),
which contains the lines :
# select system RTC or just use the first one
SUBSYSTEM==rtc, ATTR{hctosys}==1, SYMLINK+=rtc
SUBSYSTEM==rtc, KERNEL==rtc0, SYMLINK+=rtc,
OPTIONS+=link_priority=-100
However, in /dev I have :
crw--- 1 root root 10, 135 Aug 25 07:39 /dev/rtc
ie it's not a symlink. I'm using udev-204 .
HTH
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Hi,
I finally found the culprit:
There udev-related files under /lib, where I did not search for it.
I had expected them under /etc...
I fixed one of the rules and now there is the correct link.
Nonetheless, ls -l /proc shows:
beagleboneblack:/rootls -l /proc
total 0
dr-xr-xr-x 8 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 1
dr-xr-xr-x 8 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 10
dr-xr-xr-x 8 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 11
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Re: [gentoo-user] Makeing /dev/rtc1 accessible as soon as possible - how?
On Aug 26, 2013 8:41 AM, Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Mark, hi William, the script ds3231 in /etc/init.d is -- according to rc-update -- set as folows: ds3231 | boot Long and short of it, here's the boot order: sysinit - boot - (single) - default rc(8) tells me that sysinit is for bringing up system specific stuff such as /dev, /proc, /sys. So it's appropriate for a special device file such as yours, with the caveat that you want it up AFTER any dependencies such as sysfs. Now how to do that is to make your script openrc compliant, so... There is no corresponding file in /etc/conf.d since the script onlu consist of two commands (see previous posting). There is no initramfs. Since openrc is running your script, it will check /etc/conf.d/same-name for any script with environment variables. Or you can put it in the init script itself. Mind you, I don't know where to find documentation on how openrc implements this, unlike, say, some controversial init system on this list... Just to add some info: To the best of my knowledge, scripts in init.d will source the relevant file in conf.d. So, whether or not an initscript requires a conf.d file totally depends on the initscript in question. Rgds, --
Re: [gentoo-user] Who sets the symlink /dev/rtc = /dev/rtc0 ?
On 26/08/2013 05:04, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [13-08-26 04:34]: On 25/08/2013 20:26, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, In the kernel config I set CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS_DEVICE=rtc1 and I grepped through /etc and looked for something suspicious...nothing found. So...which ghost in my system dares to set the symlink /dev/rtc to point to /dev/rtc0 instead of /dev/rtc1 ??? You say there's a ghost in the machine, and the instant answer udev did not immediately jump into your mind? tut, tut (such an obvious target) :-) grep through every file installed by udev for rtc, let's see what comes out -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Hi Alan, carefully read my posting again ;) It was in /lib/ ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?
On 26/08/2013 03:52, »Q« wrote: I doubt your wiki page idea will work, it will be just accurate enough to look like it might work and just inaccurate enough to be useless. Which brings you back to the previous paragraph - try emerge nvidia-drivers and if it fails then don't use that kernel. I was unclear to the point of being misleading. I'm sorry. The wiki idea is only for a page which tells which kernel/nvidia-drivers combinations the Gentoo nvidia-drivers maintainers support. And by support, I mean they'll look into bugs and fix build problems if they're able to. This is exactly the info I'm grepping out of ewarn messages in their ebuilds now. That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is easy to find. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Aug 26, 2013 5:06 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/08/2013 21:38, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-08-18 5:16 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: While we're on the topic, what's the obsession with having different bits of the file hierarchy as different*mount points*? That harks back to the days when the only way to have a chunk of fs space be different was to have it as a separate physical thing and mount it. Nowadays we have something better - ZFS. To me this makes so much more sense. I have a large amount of storage called a pool, and set size limits and characteristics for various directories without having to deal with fixed size volumes. Eh? *Who* has ZFS? Certainly not the linux kernel. FreeBSD You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code. The bit you quoted shouldn't be read to mean that we have ZFS, it works on Linux and everyone should activate it and use it and chuck ext* out the window. I meant that we've been chugging along since 1982 or so with ancient disk concepts that come mostly from MS_DOS and limited by that hardware of that day. And here we are in 2013 *still* fiddling with partition tables, fixed file systems, fixed mountpoints and we still bang our heads weekly because sda3 has proven to be too small, and it's a *huge* mission to change it. Yes, LVM has made this so much easier (kudos to Sistina for that) but I believe the entire approach is wrong. The ZFS approach is better - here's the storage, now do with it what I want but don't employ arbitrary fixed limits and structures to do it. +1 on ZFS. It's honestly a truly *modern* filesystem. Been using it as the storage back-end of my company's email server. The zpool and zfs command may need some time to be familiar with, but the self-mounting self-sharing ability of zfs (i.e., no need to muck with fstab and exports files) is really sweet. I really leveraged its ability to do what I call delta snapshot shipping (i.e., send only the differences between two snapshots to another place). It's almost like an asynchronous DRBD, but with the added peace of mind that if the files become corrupted (due to buggy app, almost no way for ZFS to let corrupt data exist), I can easily 'roll back' to the time where the files are still uncorrupted. Rgds, --
Re: [gentoo-user] Proxy server problem
I set up squid on a remote system so I can browse the internet from that IP address. It works but it stalls frequently. I had similar results with ziproxy. I went over this with the squid list but we got nowhere as it seems to be some kind of a system or network problem. http://squid-web-proxy-cache.1019090.n4.nabble.com/squid-3-3-5-hangs- the -en tire-system-td4660893.html Can anyone here help me figure out what is wrong? I'm not sure where to start. Is this stalling problem happening when you just browse the internet, visiting websites, or do you get it when you are downloading large files such as videos, or music? If it is the former, then I am not sure what causes it. If it is the latter, then this may be relevant to http timeout settings. Actually it happens when I'm just browsing the internet. How can a problem of this nature be debugged? - Grant After reading your description on the squid mailing list, I'm suspicious that you might've run out of TCP buffers. Please post the results of: sysctl -A | egrep (mem)|(tcp) Hi Pandu, thank you for having a look. These commands were run during a stall. Proxy Server: # sysctl -A | egrep (mem)|(tcp) fs.nfs.nlm_tcpport = 0 net.core.optmem_max = 20480 net.core.rmem_default = 212992 net.core.rmem_max = 212992 net.core.wmem_default = 212992 net.core.wmem_max = 212992 net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships = 20 net.ipv4.tcp_abort_on_overflow = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_adv_win_scale = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_allowed_congestion_control = cubic reno net.ipv4.tcp_app_win = 31 net.ipv4.tcp_available_congestion_control = cubic reno net.ipv4.tcp_base_mss = 512 net.ipv4.tcp_challenge_ack_limit = 100 net.ipv4.tcp_congestion_control = cubic net.ipv4.tcp_cookie_size = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_dsack = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_early_retrans = 2 net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 2 net.ipv4.tcp_fack = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_fastopen = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_fastopen_key = ad627831-f01340bb-a649b04d-35ba63cd net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout = 60 net.ipv4.tcp_frto = 2 net.ipv4.tcp_frto_response = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_intvl = 75 net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_probes = 9 net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time = 7200 net.ipv4.tcp_limit_output_bytes = 131072 net.ipv4.tcp_low_latency = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_max_orphans = 8192 net.ipv4.tcp_max_ssthresh = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_max_syn_backlog = 128 net.ipv4.tcp_max_tw_buckets = 8192 net.ipv4.tcp_mem = 46323 61766 92646 net.ipv4.tcp_moderate_rcvbuf = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_mtu_probing = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_no_metrics_save = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_orphan_retries = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_reordering = 3 net.ipv4.tcp_retrans_collapse = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_retries1 = 3 net.ipv4.tcp_retries2 = 15 net.ipv4.tcp_rfc1337 = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 87380 6291456 net.ipv4.tcp_sack = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_slow_start_after_idle = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_stdurg = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_syn_retries = 6 net.ipv4.tcp_synack_retries = 5 net.ipv4.tcp_thin_dupack = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_thin_linear_timeouts = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_timestamps = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_tso_win_divisor = 3 net.ipv4.tcp_tw_recycle = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_tw_reuse = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_window_scaling = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 16384 4194304 net.ipv4.tcp_workaround_signed_windows = 0 net.ipv4.udp_mem = 46521 62030 93042 net.ipv4.udp_rmem_min = 4096 net.ipv4.udp_wmem_min = 4096 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_be_liberal = 0 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_loose = 1 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_max_retrans = 3 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_close = 10 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_close_wait = 60 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established = 432000 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_fin_wait = 120 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_last_ack = 30 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_max_retrans = 300 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_syn_recv = 60 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_syn_sent = 120 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait = 120 net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_unacknowledged = 300 vm.lowmem_reserve_ratio = 256 256 32 vm.overcommit_memory = 0 Client: # sysctl -A | egrep (mem)|(tcp) fs.nfs.nfs_callback_tcpport = 0 fs.nfs.nlm_tcpport = 0 net.core.optmem_max = 20480 net.core.rmem_default = 212992 net.core.rmem_max = 212992 net.core.wmem_default = 212992 net.core.wmem_max = 212992 net.ipv4.igmp_max_memberships = 20 net.ipv4.tcp_abort_on_overflow = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_adv_win_scale = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_allowed_congestion_control = cubic reno net.ipv4.tcp_app_win = 31 net.ipv4.tcp_available_congestion_control = cubic reno net.ipv4.tcp_base_mss = 512 net.ipv4.tcp_challenge_ack_limit = 100 net.ipv4.tcp_congestion_control = cubic net.ipv4.tcp_dsack = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_early_retrans = 3 net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 2 net.ipv4.tcp_fack = 1 net.ipv4.tcp_fastopen = 0 net.ipv4.tcp_fastopen_key = af77bb2f-38636dab-7fd80263-df37cea3 net.ipv4.tcp_fin_timeout = 60 net.ipv4.tcp_frto = 2 net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_intvl = 75 net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_probes = 9 net.ipv4.tcp_keepalive_time = 7200 net.ipv4.tcp_limit_output_bytes = 131072
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On 26/08/2013 08:10, Pandu Poluan wrote: The ZFS approach is better - here's the storage, now do with it what I want but don't employ arbitrary fixed limits and structures to do it. +1 on ZFS. It's honestly a truly *modern* filesystem. Been using it as the storage back-end of my company's email server. The zpool and zfs command may need some time to be familiar with, but the self-mounting self-sharing ability of zfs (i.e., no need to muck with fstab and exports files) is really sweet. I really leveraged its ability to do what I call delta snapshot shipping (i.e., send only the differences between two snapshots to another place). It's almost like an asynchronous DRBD, but with the added peace of mind that if the files become corrupted (due to buggy app, almost no way for ZFS to let corrupt data exist), I can easily 'roll back' to the time where the files are still uncorrupted. I run it on my NASes, and the thing that really sold me was what it lets me as the admin do: I get all the benefits of directories with none of the downsides. I get all the benefits of mount points with none of the downsides. I get all the benefits of discrete filesystems with none of the downsides. Like you say, a truly modern fs built for modern needs. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:02:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Eh? *Who* has ZFS? Certainly not the linux kernel. FreeBSD You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code. emerge zfs works too :) I really liek the way ZFS just lets you get on with things. -- Neil Bothwick Help put the fun back in dysfunctional ! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who sets the symlink /dev/rtc = /dev/rtc0 ?
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 05:30:12 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: There udev-related files under /lib, where I did not search for it. That's where udev's own rules live. I had expected them under /etc... That's where user rules live. I fixed one of the rules and now there is the correct link. For now. Copy the rule to /etc/ if you don't want it overwritten by the next udev update. -- Neil Bothwick Who messed with my anti-paranoia shot? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Monday 26 Aug 2013 08:06:13 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 00:02:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Eh? *Who* has ZFS? Certainly not the linux kernel. FreeBSD You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code. emerge zfs works too :) I really liek the way ZFS just lets you get on with things. Does anyone run it on a desktop/laptop as their day to day fs? Any drawbacks or gotchas? Other than reliability, how does it perform compared say to ext4? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Questions about java SDK ebuilds for linux
Hi, I'm using GENTOO linux as development platform for Java applications. JAVA 8 is not officially out there, but still I would like to start testing it, and there are early access downloads at the oracle website. Furthermore, the ebuilds for the IBM JDKs seem to be somewhat abandoned - is there an build for the ibm jdk V7 available somewhere? I did not find anything (yet)... Thanks in advance, Wolfgang Liebich
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:45:15 +0100, Mick wrote: emerge zfs works too :) I really like the way ZFS just lets you get on with things. Does anyone run it on a desktop/laptop as their day to day fs? Yes. Any drawbacks or gotchas? Other than reliability, how does it perform compared say to ext4? I haven't benchmarked it. It feels as if it may be a little slower on my desktop with spinning disks, but that may be down to other factors, like impatience. It flies on my laptop's SSD. -- Neil Bothwick Why is bra singular and pants plural? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:45:15 +0100, Mick wrote: emerge zfs works too :) I really like the way ZFS just lets you get on with things. Does anyone run it on a desktop/laptop as their day to day fs? Yes. Any drawbacks or gotchas? Other than reliability, how does it perform compared say to ext4? I haven't benchmarked it. It feels as if it may be a little slower on my desktop with spinning disks, but that may be down to other factors, like impatience. It flies on my laptop's SSD. Additional note: *Of course* it will be slower than ext*, because during every read it ensures that the block being read has a proper checksum. Likewise on writes. But that IMO is very worth it just for the additional peace-of-mind, knowing you will never ever have a silent corruption. -- FdS Pandu E Poluan * ~ IT Optimizer ~** * • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Is sound broken?
On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 16:22:31 Peter Humphrey wrote: Hi list, Today after I had my system down for its weekly backup, on restarting KDE (phonon) said some internal devices had been removed, in particular the default device. And indeed I had no sound. This was with kernel 3.10.7 driving the on-board Intel HDA audio. The kernel module snd_hda_intel had been loaded. I had the same on two systems. Strangely it did not recognise my hw:0,0 and hw:1,3 rather than the default device. I accepted what it suggested (to remove the two hw devices) and carried on. When I rebooted later on sound worked fine for playback and capture. On rebooting the previous kernel, 3.8.13, sound worked OK but KDE said it had noticed some other devices missing - presumably some that had been found by kernel 3.10.7. I've made the kernel configs the same as regards sound, but still I get sound from 3.8.13 but not from 3.10.7. The kernel change-log hasn't helped either. Anyone have a clue to offer? Try accepting what it suggests, then use alsactl to initialise your cards and see what you get. You can also check with alsamixer that they are not muted. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Am 26.08.2013 10:45, schrieb Mick: Does anyone run it on a desktop/laptop as their day to day fs? Any drawbacks or gotchas? Other than reliability, how does it perform compared say to ext4? Sorry for being shameless: I once described a ZFS-based gentoo setup with encryption for the german linux magazine. They translated it and it was published in other parts of the world as well: http://www.oops.co.at/en/publications/english-translation-of-zfs-article I delivered a demo-VM as well but I don't run that setup on my productive systems currently. Stefan (not earning anything from those pdf-downloads, btw)
FIXED: [gentoo-user] Is sound broken?
On Monday 26 Aug 2013 11:51:52 Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 Aug 2013 16:22:31 Peter Humphrey wrote: Hi list, Today after I had my system down for its weekly backup, on restarting KDE (phonon) said some internal devices had been removed, in particular the default device. And indeed I had no sound. This was with kernel 3.10.7 driving the on-board Intel HDA audio. The kernel module snd_hda_intel had been loaded. I had the same on two systems. Strangely it did not recognise my hw:0,0 and hw:1,3 rather than the default device. I accepted what it suggested (to remove the two hw devices) and carried on. When I rebooted later on sound worked fine for playback and capture. I tried that, and I thought it hadn't worked because when I rebooted I still had no sound. But then, when I decided to reboot again with the old kernel to see if I'd now lost my working sound device, I heard the KDE shutdown bong. So I've rebooted the new kernel and all is well. Meanwhile I had fiddled with alsactl, issuing various commands blindly. Maybe that's what fixed it. Many thanks for your help Mick. -- Regards, Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On 2013-08-25 6:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code. I know you can do this as a module - but is there an overlay or patch to get it built directly into the kernel? I'd love to use ZFS on my gentoo server, but I disable modules on servers for security reasons. Thanks...
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
We now get into choosing hardware for that shiny new gentoo-server ... as mentioned this will be a KVM-host and we look at a HP Proliant DL385p ... 2 AMD Opteron 6344 ... 32 GB RAM, 8 disks (the customer has some bigger contract with hp, so we are a bit biased to hp here). For the server that runs the VMs right now we back then chose 2 smaller SAS-disks for the OS (speed, expensive) and installed SLES on a mirror built on those 2 disks. The other 8 (?) SATA-disks run in a RAID-6 ... Now I ask myself if I want to do that again: 2 smaller disks, fast, RAID1 - OS/ Gentoo (SSD? I think, no) 6 bigger disks, maybe 7200rpm, SATA - RAID6 - LVM - space for VMs (maybe straight LVs for the VM-disks ... performs well, nice backups) Or should I go for all 8 disks in a RAID6 ... ? I'd like to discuss that and hear your opinions and experiences. Thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:16:44 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it
yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code.
I know you can do this as a module - but is there an overlay or patch
to get it built directly into the kernel? I'd love to use ZFS on my
gentoo server, but I disable modules on servers for security reasons.
You can do it. You have to unmask the kernel_builtin USE flag to stop zfs
bringing in zfs_kmod, then unpack the sources and run the script to
install them into the kernel tree.
I run this script after emerging a new kernel
==
#!/bin/sh
[[ -f /usr/src/linux/.config ]] || zcat /proc/config.gz
/usr/src/linux/.config
SPL_EBUILD=$(ls -1 /var/portage/sys-kernel/spl/spl-0* | tail -n 1)
ZFS_EBUILD=$(ls -1 /var/portage/sys-fs/zfs/zfs-0* | tail -n 1)
SPL_DIR=$(ebuild $SPL_EBUILD clean prepare | awk '/Preparing source in/
{print $5}') ZFS_DIR=$(ebuild $ZFS_EBUILD clean prepare | awk '/Preparing
source in/ {print $5}')
cd $SPL_DIR
./configure --enable-linux-builtin --with-linux=/usr/src/linux
./copy-builtin /usr/src/linux
cd $ZFS_DIR
./configure --enable-linux-builtin --with-linux=/usr/src/linux
--with-spl=$SPL_DIR ./copy-builtin /usr/src/linux
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Then run make oldconfig and compile as usual.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:06:11 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Sorry for being shameless: I once described a ZFS-based gentoo setup with encryption for the german linux magazine. They translated it and it was published in other parts of the world as well: That is pretty shameless. I would never be so blatant as to mention the ZFS tutorial in the current issue (175) of Linux Format. -- Neil Bothwick Head: (n.) the part of a disk drive which detects sectors and decides which of the two possible values to return: 'lose a turn' or 'bankrupt.' signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On 26/08/2013 16:38, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:06:11 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Sorry for being shameless: I once described a ZFS-based gentoo setup with encryption for the german linux magazine. They translated it and it was published in other parts of the world as well: That is pretty shameless. I would never be so blatant as to mention the ZFS tutorial in the current issue (175) of Linux Format. If you give me a free subscription for life, I promise I won't breath a word of you never mentioning ZFS -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Am 26.08.2013 16:38, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:06:11 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Sorry for being shameless: I once described a ZFS-based gentoo setup with encryption for the german linux magazine. They translated it and it was published in other parts of the world as well: That is pretty shameless. I would never be so blatant as to mention the ZFS tutorial in the current issue (175) of Linux Format. ;-)
[gentoo-user] Nvidia optimus no signal on external monitor
Hi, I've managed to get optimus works on my PC with nvidia property driver. But I got into an issue when trying to extend my screen to an external monitor by using Xrandr. There is no signal in the external monitor but the screen do extended, as mouse and window can be moved outside the visiable screen. There are 2 output connected, LVDS-0 VGA-0. The xrandr command used: # xrandr --output VGA-0 --pos 1366x0 --auto And also tried (doesn't work), # xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --left-of LVDS-0 This one works but both monitors showing with the screen, # xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --same-as LVDS-0 Any suggestion please? Thanks, PS. And also attach my /etc/X11/xorg.conf here, Section Module Load glx EndSection Section Monitor Identifier ASUS VendorName Unknown VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier NVIDIA Driver nvidia BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier DFP0 Device NVIDIA MonitorASUS #Option IgnoreEDIDChecksum DFP Option UseDisplayDevice none EndSection Section Device Identifier INTEL Driver modesetting EndSection Section Screen Identifier INTEL Device INTEL EndSection -- oooO: (..): :\.(:::Oooo:: ::\_)::(..):: :::)./::: ::(_/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot
Hi, After a few solved problems, I am still unable to completely boot using grub:2, and now I just can't find anything else to fiddle with. So I would really appreciate if someone could take a look at my configuration: - system is amd64; - hard disk partitioning: - two first primary partitions, unused (for now); - third (/dev/sda3) is /boot partition, kernel built and in place; - extended partition as fourth partition; - logical partition (/dev/sda5) is / linux partition, ext4 formated; - emerged the following, before building kernel; - genkernel ; - media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4.4-r1; - media-gfx/splash-themes-gentoo-20101212-r1 ; - sys-apps/v86d-0.1.10; - genkernel command line: genkernel all \ --color --menuconfig --splash=natural_gentoo \ --splash-res=1024x768,1280x1024,1366x768,1440x900 \ --mountboot --install --unionfs --real-root=/dev/sda5 \ --ramdisk-modules --postclear - kernel built with: - CONFIG_FB_UVESA=y - CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=/usr/share/v86d/initramfs - CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y - CONFIG_EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL=y - CONFIG_EXT4_FS_SECURITY=y - grub2 defaults (/etc/defaults/grub2) only difference from original: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda5 video=uvesafb,mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent,fadein,theme:natural_gentoo nodevfs udev devfs=nomount CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet - sample extract from grub:0 config file, used in a working (a bit older) system: title=Gentoo Linux (3.8.13-gentoo) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-3.8.13-gentoo ro root=/dev/ram0 \ init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda4 vga=791 splash=silent,theme:natural_gentoo \ console=tty1 verbose nodevfs udev devfs=nomount CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-3.8.13-gentoo Now the boot stops showing the messages (after the Tux logos appeared): Can't open cfg file //etc/splash/natural_gentoo/640x480.cfg No verbose picture specified in the theme No silent picture specified in the theme No verbose picture specified in the theme Can't open cfg file //etc/splash/natural_gentoo/640x480.cfg No verbose picture specified in the theme No silent picture specified in the theme !! Block device /dev/sda5 is not a valid root device The last line explains the ones preceding it. Any hints on where to look at? Thanks Francisco
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
On Aug 26, 2013 9:02 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: We now get into choosing hardware for that shiny new gentoo-server ... as mentioned this will be a KVM-host and we look at a HP Proliant DL385p ... 2 AMD Opteron 6344 ... 32 GB RAM, 8 disks (the customer has some bigger contract with hp, so we are a bit biased to hp here). For the server that runs the VMs right now we back then chose 2 smaller SAS-disks for the OS (speed, expensive) and installed SLES on a mirror built on those 2 disks. The other 8 (?) SATA-disks run in a RAID-6 ... Now I ask myself if I want to do that again: 2 smaller disks, fast, RAID1 - OS/ Gentoo (SSD? I think, no) 6 bigger disks, maybe 7200rpm, SATA - RAID6 - LVM - space for VMs (maybe straight LVs for the VM-disks ... performs well, nice backups) Or should I go for all 8 disks in a RAID6 ... ? I'd like to discuss that and hear your opinions and experiences. Thanks! 2 smallest disks in RAID1 configuration for booting. Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. Rgds, --
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Am 19.08.2013 22:40, schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 19/08/2013 16:20, Alecks Gates wrote: All I do is add one extra line (for example - dracut -H --kver=3.11.0-rc6) to my kernel install procedure. Precisely. It's not hard, it's actually almost automatable. It's vastly simpler than configuring a kernel, something we all seem to take in our stride and wear as badges of honour. It's arguably even easier than figuring grub out the first time through. As I mentioned some weeks ago I also have my quick-and-dirty script that runs the stuff necessary ... instead of using genkernel I forked (a big word for my messed up script) some parts of it and it works fine so far (throws quite some errors that just don't matter). Maybe some good examples would help? At least for the people unsure about generating the initramfs and/or dracut? Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.atwrote: Am 26.08.2013 17:51, schrieb Pandu Poluan: 2 smallest disks in RAID1 configuration for booting. Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. Interesting suggestion. I don't know if I dare ... I wonder how VMs would perform on ZFS-filesystems ... I should test that before actually setting that up. The system will run ~800km away from me so it should be rather bullet-proof ;-) I trust ZFS, sure ... but I don't have experience with it as a storage for KVM-virtualization. But I consider it, thanks! Stefan Well... with a ZFS-backed storage, when you want to create a new VM, all you have to do is `zfs clone` ;-) Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan * ~ IT Optimizer ~** * • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot
Am 26.08.2013 17:41, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, After a few solved problems, I am still unable to completely boot using grub:2, and now I just can't find anything else to fiddle with. So I would really appreciate if someone could take a look at my configuration: - system is amd64; - hard disk partitioning: - two first primary partitions, unused (for now); - third (/dev/sda3) is /boot partition, kernel built and in place; - extended partition as fourth partition; - logical partition (/dev/sda5) is / linux partition, ext4 formated; - emerged the following, before building kernel; - genkernel ; - media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4.4-r1; - media-gfx/splash-themes-gentoo-20101212-r1 ; - sys-apps/v86d-0.1.10; - genkernel command line: genkernel all \ --color --menuconfig --splash=natural_gentoo \ --splash-res=1024x768,1280x1024,1366x768,1440x900 \ --mountboot --install --unionfs --real-root=/dev/sda5 \ --ramdisk-modules --postclear - kernel built with: - CONFIG_FB_UVESA=y - CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=/usr/share/v86d/initramfs - CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y - CONFIG_EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL=y - CONFIG_EXT4_FS_SECURITY=y - grub2 defaults (/etc/defaults/grub2) only difference from original: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda5 video=uvesafb,mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent,fadein,theme:natural_gentoo nodevfs udev devfs=nomount CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet - sample extract from grub:0 config file, used in a working (a bit older) system: title=Gentoo Linux (3.8.13-gentoo) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-3.8.13-gentoo ro root=/dev/ram0 \ init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda4 vga=791 splash=silent,theme:natural_gentoo \ console=tty1 verbose nodevfs udev devfs=nomount CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-3.8.13-gentoo Now the boot stops showing the messages (after the Tux logos appeared): Can't open cfg file //etc/splash/natural_gentoo/640x480.cfg No verbose picture specified in the theme No silent picture specified in the theme No verbose picture specified in the theme Can't open cfg file //etc/splash/natural_gentoo/640x480.cfg No verbose picture specified in the theme No silent picture specified in the theme !! Block device /dev/sda5 is not a valid root device The last line explains the ones preceding it. Any hints on where to look at? Thanks Francisco Have you tried generating a grub2 config file via grub2-mkconfig. You should try that and see if you can boot. Then adjust the configuration to your needs. On first glance, everything in your setup looks the way it's supposed to be, but I suspect your customized grub2 cfg. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
Am 26.08.2013 17:51, schrieb Pandu Poluan: 2 smallest disks in RAID1 configuration for booting. Then the 6 disks as JBOD and use it within a RAIDZ2 array. Or, 6 disks in JBOD, add them a 3 ZFS mirror vdev's. Interesting suggestion. I don't know if I dare ... I wonder how VMs would perform on ZFS-filesystems ... I should test that before actually setting that up. The system will run ~800km away from me so it should be rather bullet-proof ;-) I trust ZFS, sure ... but I don't have experience with it as a storage for KVM-virtualization. But I consider it, thanks! Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
Am 26.08.2013 18:14, schrieb Pandu Poluan: Well... with a ZFS-backed storage, when you want to create a new VM, all you have to do is `zfs clone` ;-) Yes, I see those possibilities ;-) That system will run rather important stuff ... so I have to be rather careful. But the bit-rot-prevention/checksumming-features are a plus in this perspective. Do you run such a system? How big? Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.atwrote: Am 26.08.2013 18:14, schrieb Pandu Poluan: Well... with a ZFS-backed storage, when you want to create a new VM, all you have to do is `zfs clone` ;-) Yes, I see those possibilities ;-) That system will run rather important stuff ... so I have to be rather careful. But the bit-rot-prevention/checksumming-features are a plus in this perspective. Do you run such a system? How big? I have to admit that my virtualized servers are not running on top of ZFS-backed storage... because the company already has a quite sizable EMC VNX storage, and it's a shame to not use that behemoth... ;-) At the moment, the ZFS-backed storage is used to store our email archive system (using MailArchiva), and with more than 15'000 emails per day, it has been performing flawlessly. That said, when I was hunting around for information on ZFS before taking the plunge, a *lot* of discussion revolves around using ZFS as the storage back-end for virtualization, be it using KVM or VMware. Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan * ~ IT Optimizer ~** * • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On 2013-08-26 10:11 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:16:44 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: You can get ZFS on Linux with relative ease, you just have to build it yourself. Distros feel they can't redistribute that code. I know you can do this as a module - but is there an overlay or patch to get it built directly into the kernel? I'd love to use ZFS on my gentoo server, but I disable modules on servers for security reasons. You can do it. You have to unmask the kernel_builtin USE flag to stop zfs bringing in zfs_kmod, then unpack the sources and run the script to install them into the kernel tree. snip Very interesting, thanks... nice to know it can be done, but I wouldn't be uncomfortable doing that myself... Would be nice if there was a kernel overlay for this...
[gentoo-user] Re: Questions about java SDK ebuilds for linux
Wolfgang Liebich wolfgang.liebich at siemens-enterprise.com writes: Hi, I'm using GENTOO linux as development platform for Java applications. JAVA 8 is not officially out there, but still I would like to start testing it, and there are early access downloads at the oracle website. Checkout project sunrise and then other overlay sites for early offerings... Furthermore, the ebuilds for the IBM JDKs seem to be somewhat abandoned - is there an build for the ibm jdk V7 available somewhere? I did not find anything (yet)... IMHO, JAVA get's a bad rap in the open source world for a variety, sometimes very good, reasons. What JAVA on gentoo lacks is devoted afficionado team to keep up with supporting JAVA on Gentoo... YMMV, hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:36:30 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: You can do it. You have to unmask the kernel_builtin USE flag to stop zfs bringing in zfs_kmod, then unpack the sources and run the script to install them into the kernel tree. snip Very interesting, thanks... nice to know it can be done, but I wouldn't be uncomfortable doing that myself... Would be nice if there was a kernel overlay for this... The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't be done for you and distributed. -- Neil Bothwick OPERATOR ERROR: Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Would be nice if there was a kernel overlay for this... The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't be done for you and distributed. Why do you believe this? ZFS id doubtlessly an own work independent from the rest of the Linux kernel and for this reason, adding ZFS just creates a collective work that is not affected by the GPL. BTW: this was already explained in the GPL book from Till Jaeger et al. published in March 2005. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?
Am 26.08.2013 18:35, schrieb Pandu Poluan: I have to admit that my virtualized servers are not running on top of ZFS-backed storage... because the company already has a quite sizable EMC VNX storage, and it's a shame to not use that behemoth... ;-) For sure! :-) At the moment, the ZFS-backed storage is used to store our email archive system (using MailArchiva), and with more than 15'000 emails per day, it has been performing flawlessly. Without getting academic: good to hear, but rather the opposite use case. Thousands of small files vs. some big chunks (as with VMs). That said, when I was hunting around for information on ZFS before taking the plunge, a *lot* of discussion revolves around using ZFS as the storage back-end for virtualization, be it using KVM or VMware. Yes. I will research that a bit and consider it. Maybe I suggest them a test-phase (old server still there and OK ... so why not) S
Re: [gentoo-user] grub2 or kernel config - unable to properly boot
Hi, Michael, thanks for you reply. Please forgive me for not having mentioned grub2-mkconfig and grub2-install. The mentioned grub.cfg was a sample from a working system, with legacy grub:0, from which I have recovered parts of the kernel command line parameters. After genkernel finished to build the kernel, I've issued: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg grub2-install /dev/sda Sorry for this. Francisco 2013/8/26 Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz Am 26.08.2013 17:41, schrieb Francisco Ares: Hi, After a few solved problems, I am still unable to completely boot using grub:2, and now I just can't find anything else to fiddle with. So I would really appreciate if someone could take a look at my configuration: - system is amd64; - hard disk partitioning: - two first primary partitions, unused (for now); - third (/dev/sda3) is /boot partition, kernel built and in place; - extended partition as fourth partition; - logical partition (/dev/sda5) is / linux partition, ext4 formated; - emerged the following, before building kernel; - genkernel ; - media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.4.4-r1; - media-gfx/splash-themes-gentoo-20101212-r1 ; - sys-apps/v86d-0.1.10; - genkernel command line: genkernel all \ --color --menuconfig --splash=natural_gentoo \ --splash-res=1024x768,1280x1024,1366x768,1440x900 \ --mountboot --install --unionfs --real-root=/dev/sda5 \ --ramdisk-modules --postclear - kernel built with: - CONFIG_FB_UVESA=y - CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=/usr/share/v86d/initramfs - CONFIG_EXT4_FS=y - CONFIG_EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL=y - CONFIG_EXT4_FS_SECURITY=y - grub2 defaults (/etc/defaults/grub2) only difference from original: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda5 video=uvesafb,mtrr:3,ywrap splash=silent,fadein,theme:natural_gentoo nodevfs udev devfs=nomount CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet - sample extract from grub:0 config file, used in a working (a bit older) system: title=Gentoo Linux (3.8.13-gentoo) root (hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-3.8.13-gentoo ro root=/dev/ram0 \ init=/linuxrc real_root=/dev/sda4 vga=791 splash=silent,theme:natural_gentoo \ console=tty1 verbose nodevfs udev devfs=nomount CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 quiet initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-3.8.13-gentoo Now the boot stops showing the messages (after the Tux logos appeared): Can't open cfg file //etc/splash/natural_gentoo/640x480.cfg No verbose picture specified in the theme No silent picture specified in the theme No verbose picture specified in the theme Can't open cfg file //etc/splash/natural_gentoo/640x480.cfg No verbose picture specified in the theme No silent picture specified in the theme !! Block device /dev/sda5 is not a valid root device The last line explains the ones preceding it. Any hints on where to look at? Thanks Francisco Have you tried generating a grub2 config file via grub2-mkconfig. You should try that and see if you can boot. Then adjust the configuration to your needs. On first glance, everything in your setup looks the way it's supposed to be, but I suspect your customized grub2 cfg.
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia optimus no signal on external monitor
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:56 AM, du yang duyang@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've managed to get optimus works on my PC with nvidia property driver. But I got into an issue when trying to extend my screen to an external monitor by using Xrandr. There is no signal in the external monitor but the screen do extended, as mouse and window can be moved outside the visiable screen. There are 2 output connected, LVDS-0 VGA-0. The xrandr command used: # xrandr --output VGA-0 --pos 1366x0 --auto And also tried (doesn't work), # xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --left-of LVDS-0 This one works but both monitors showing with the screen, # xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --same-as LVDS-0 Any suggestion please? Since you're using the proprietary driver, have you tried using the nvidia-settings configuration program to set up the second monitor? Thanks, PS. And also attach my /etc/X11/xorg.conf here, Section Module Load glx EndSection Section Monitor Identifier ASUS VendorName Unknown VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier NVIDIA Driver nvidia BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier DFP0 Device NVIDIA MonitorASUS #Option IgnoreEDIDChecksum DFP Option UseDisplayDevice none EndSection Section Device Identifier INTEL Driver modesetting EndSection Section Screen Identifier INTEL Device INTEL EndSection -- oooO: (..): :\.(:::Oooo:: ::\_)::(..):: :::)./::: ::(_/
Re: [gentoo-user] having problems building webkit-gtk
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:54 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/08/2013 19:22, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have been having problems building webkit-gtk right along through the various versions, but this one stumps me completely -- I get the error: libtool: link: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -o /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/work/webkitgtk-2.0.4/tmp-introspectCZNJhf/.libs/WebKit-3.0 -O2 -mtune=core\2 -pipe -std=c99 -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--no-keep-memory /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/work/webkitgtk-2.0.4/tmp-introspectCZNJhf/WebKit-3.0.o -Wl,--export-dy\namic -pthread -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--as-needed -L. /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/work/webkitgtk-2.0.4/.libs/libwebkitgtk-3.0.so -L/usr/lib64\ -lenchant -lharfbuzz-icu -lharfbuzz -lgailutil-3 -lgeoclue -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgstapp-1.0 -lgstaudio-1.0 -lgstfft-1.0 -lgstpbutils-1.0 -lgstvideo-1.0 -lg\stbase-1.0 -lgstreamer-1.0 -ljpeg -lsecret-1 -lxslt -lxml2 -lGL -ldl -lpangoft2-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lpng16 -lsqlite3 -lwebp -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lX\fixes -lXrender -lXt -lX11 -lz /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/work/webkitgtk-2.0.4/.libs/libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0.so -lpthread -licui18n -licuuc -l\icudata -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lgmodule-2.0 -lgtk-3 -lgdk-3 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -latk-1.0 -lcairo-gobject -lcairo -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lsoup-2.4 -lgio-2.0 -\lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -pthread^M PT PaX marking -m ./tmp-introspectCZNJhf/.libs/WebKit-3.0^M ^M (process:24006): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_class_install_property: assertion `class-set_property != NULL' failed I have search through google and bgo and found nothing -- how can I fix this one? Did you try building with -j1? I did find this one bgo, dunno if you found it in your searches (seems relevant at first glance): http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7369078.html https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119261 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=463960 The first URL links to the other two. Well, the post seems to think that setting opengl to xserver instead of nvidia should help -- but I am in a text console -- I might try it anyway, but how could that possibly help? The problem seems to be in the output of a command being too long (or so I remember from the two occasions I have encountered it). I don't understand it either. I remember that I had to use the -j1 trick, and also that I ssh'd to the machine, I started a screen session, and from there did the build (with X not running). It only has happened to me in my desktop machine (with an NVidia card). Thanks for all the help on this problem -- even though I am not using X, switching the opengl allowed webkit-gtk to complete -- I sure hope they fix this -- its rediculous! Thanks again. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:30:05 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't be done for you and distributed. Why do you believe this? ZFS id doubtlessly an own work independent from the rest of the Linux kernel and for this reason, adding ZFS just creates a collective work that is not affected by the GPL. But the CCDL licence of ZFS precludes its being distributed with the kernel. At least, that's how I understand it and the fact that no distro distributes a ZFS-enabled kernel makes me believe it is true. -- Neil Bothwick Friends come and friends go, but enemies accumulate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:30:05 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The licensing conflict means that would not be possible. You have the install the kernel source and then merge in the ZFS source yourself, it can't be done for you and distributed. Why do you believe this? ZFS id doubtlessly an own work independent from the rest of the Linux kernel and for this reason, adding ZFS just creates a collective work that is not affected by the GPL. But the CCDL licence of ZFS precludes its being distributed with the kernel. At least, that's how I understand it and the fact that no distro distributes a ZFS-enabled kernel makes me believe it is true. Did you ever read the CDDL? People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of the GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:37:02 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: But the CCDL licence of ZFS precludes its being distributed with the kernel. At least, that's how I understand it and the fact that no distro distributes a ZFS-enabled kernel makes me believe it is true. Did you ever read the CDDL? Not completely. People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of the GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. I didn't say the CDDL prevented this. I'm not blaming one of the other licence, but they are considered to be incompatible. I realise you believe otherwise, and you could well be correct, but those who distribute the software either believe otherwise or feel there is enough doubt to be cautious. If in doubt, don't. I wish your interpretation was correct, but the prevailing option is otherwise. -- Neil Bothwick Will we ever get out of this airport? asked Tom interminably. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Did you ever read the CDDL? Not completely. You should do it - it is even much shorter then GPLv3 People who believe that there is a problem use a wrong interpretation of the GPL. The CDDL definitely does not prevent combinations with other software. I didn't say the CDDL prevented this. I'm not blaming one of the other licence, but they are considered to be incompatible. I realise you believe otherwise, and you could well be correct, but those who distribute the software either believe otherwise or feel there is enough doubt to be cautious. If in doubt, don't. There are several entities that frequently publish such unproven claims. This sounds like marketing using the cause fear uncertaintly and doubt method. You should not trust such entities that do not prove their claims. I wish your interpretation was correct, but the prevailing option is otherwise. It is not my interpretation, this is the interpretation of all lawyers in the net that are willing to explain the background of their decisions. This interpretation is based on two basic facts: - The CDDL was designed for best compatibilitiy with all licenses. - The parts of the GPL that are claimed to prevent this license combination are in conflict with the law and thus void. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia optimus no signal on external monitor
On Tuesday 08/27/13 02:48:38 CST, James Ausmus wrote: Since you're using the proprietary driver, have you tried using the nvidia-settings configuration program to set up the second monitor? Tried, tt can't detect out the external monitor. -- oooO: (..): :\.(:::Oooo:: ::\_)::(..):: :::)./::: ::(_/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia optimus no signal on external monitor
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:16 PM, du yang duyang@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 08/27/13 02:48:38 CST, James Ausmus wrote: Since you're using the proprietary driver, have you tried using the nvidia-settings configuration program to set up the second monitor? Tried, tt can't detect out the external monitor. I would try a different monitor and/or a different monitor cable to rule out a HW issue on that end -- oooO: (..): :\.(:::Oooo:: ::\_)::(..):: :::)./::: ::(_/
Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
On the issue of whether ZFS can be shipped with the Linux kernel, FreeBSD includes ZFS with the kernel, binary and source. So does that mean it would be OK for Linux too? FreeBSD has a different license (BSD) than Linux (GPL 2 or 3). I am not a lawyer! Tom
[gentoo-user] Re: The NVIDIA/Kernel fiasco -- is it safe to sync yet?
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:02:32 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/08/2013 03:52, »Q« wrote: I doubt your wiki page idea will work, it will be just accurate enough to look like it might work and just inaccurate enough to be useless. Which brings you back to the previous paragraph - try emerge nvidia-drivers and if it fails then don't use that kernel. I was unclear to the point of being misleading. I'm sorry. The wiki idea is only for a page which tells which kernel/nvidia-drivers combinations the Gentoo nvidia-drivers maintainers support. And by support, I mean they'll look into bugs and fix build problems if they're able to. This is exactly the info I'm grepping out of ewarn messages in their ebuilds now. That list is the list of kernels that nVidia supports, which is easy to find. Where? AIUI from reading various threads about this, sometimes that info can be found in nVidia's developer web forum, but I've never been able to find it there. nVidia's READMEs give a minimum kernel version, but no max.
[gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. If innd is the one from net-nntp/inn, then the following should work: [Unit] Description=The Internet News daemon Documentation=man:innd(8) ConditionPathExists=/var/run/news [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news ExecStop=/usr/lib/news/bin/rc.news stop User=news Group=news [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target If the binary rc.news forks itself (and there is no option to force it to run in the foreground), use Type=forking. The former is preferred over the latter. Also, to guarantee that the directory /var/run/news always is present, add the following to a new file /etc/tmpfiles.d/innd.conf: d/var/run/news 0755 news news 10d - You can replace 10d with - (hypen), so the directory is never cleaned automatically. If you try this unit and it works as expected, please let us know. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] looking for a couple of systemd units
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Hi. I am looking for a couple of systemd units which I have not been able to find -- one for mailman and one for innd which is a shell script by itself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I use this one in production for mailman with Gentoo: [Unit] Description=Mailman mailing list service After=network.target [Service] Type=forking ExecStart=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -s start ExecStop=/usr/lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop User=mailman Group=mailman [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target I don't have any for innd. OK, thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
