Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-02 Thread Helmut Jarausch

On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
 Hi,

 in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks  ati-drivers
 again (as always in the past).
 Does anybody know about a patch to make
 x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy
 compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ?

 Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1_pre897 (currently the only legacy
 driver)
 with 3.12-rc3 gives

   MODPOST 1 modules
 FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only  
symbol

 'acpi_bus_get_device'

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut


so you are using a driver meant for stable (old) systems, with a pre
release kernel - and you don't even know what do do with that message?


I'm quite sure there are a lot of things which you don't known either.


Does that do no seem a bit silly? hm?


Thanks for this compliment!


acpi_bus_get_device is gpl only. You can undo that. If you want.

But seriously, what is wrong with using stable releases like 3.10.x?  
If
you use ati-drivers, you don't need the amd driver improvements in  
3.11

or 3.12.


There are two points here:
- first I consider it as my contribution to GenToo to help testing.
  The problem with the 3.12 prerelease will definitely continue with  
the main release

  coming in about 4 weeks.

- This 3.12 prerelease has a lot of BTRFS pataches. Since I'm using  
BTRFS for most of

  my file systems, I like to have the most recent fixes.

Thank you
Helmut




Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
  Hi,
 
  in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks  ati-drivers
  again (as always in the past).
  Does anybody know about a patch to make
  x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy
  compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ?
 
  Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1_pre897 (currently the only legacy
  driver)
  with 3.12-rc3 gives
 
MODPOST 1 modules
  FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only symbol
  'acpi_bus_get_device'
 
  Many thanks for a hint,
  Helmut
 

 so you are using a driver meant for stable (old) systems, with a pre
 release kernel - and you don't even know what do do with that message?
 
 I'm quite sure there are a lot of things which you don't known either.
 
 Does that do no seem a bit silly? hm?
 
 Thanks for this compliment!
 
 acpi_bus_get_device is gpl only. You can undo that. If you want.

 But seriously, what is wrong with using stable releases like 3.10.x? If
 you use ati-drivers, you don't need the amd driver improvements in 3.11
 or 3.12.
 
 There are two points here:
 - first I consider it as my contribution to GenToo to help testing.
   The problem with the 3.12 prerelease will definitely continue with the
 main release
   coming in about 4 weeks.
 
 - This 3.12 prerelease has a lot of BTRFS pataches. Since I'm using
 BTRFS for most of
   my file systems, I like to have the most recent fixes.


Calm down boys.


Helmut, the problem is that you are trying to use ATI's proprietary code
with GPL code in the kernel.

The kernel devs do not want you to do that and that is their right.

What you should have done in your mail is indicate that you read the
error message and understand it, and why you want to continue
regradless. Then you should have mentioned what Google told you about
the problem, or something to show what you already did to help yourself.

As it stands you post is really just asking someone else to do your
homework for you and that you are too lazy to do it yourself. I'm sure
that's not want you are really doing, it just looks that way.


-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




[gentoo-user] Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable

2013-10-02 Thread Thanasis
Set PORTDIR for backward compatibility with various tools like:
euse - bug #474574
euses and ufed - bug #478318

PORTDIR=/usr/portage




Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:27 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I hate getting older.  lol 

It's a lot better than the alternative...


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Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/10/2 Tomáš Hájek tomcat.mas...@gmail.com:
 Hi guys!
 For me this is first time installing gentoo on my own and right now I'm
 really out of ideas.

 My problem is:

 tombook tom # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
 net.wlan0   | * Bringing up interface wlan0
 net.wlan0   | *   ERROR: interface wlan0 does not exist
 net.wlan0   | *   Ensure that you have loaded the correct kernel module
 for your hardware
 net.wlan0   | * ERROR: net.wlan0 failed to start
 tombook tom #

 You can see that my wifi interface does not come up and ifconfig don't know
 about it either.

 tombook tom # ifconfig -a
 lo: flags=73AKTIVOVÁNO,SMYČKA,BĚŽÍ  mtu 65536
 inet 127.0.0.1 síťová_maska 255.0.0.0
 inet6 ::1  délka_prefixu 128  scopeid 0x10stroj
 loop délka_odchozí_fronty 0  (Místní smyčka)
 RX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 RX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  rámců 0
 TX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 TX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  přenos 0  kolizí 0

 sit0: flags=128NEARP  mtu 1480
 sit délka_odchozí_fronty 0  (IPv6-in-IPv4)
 RX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 RX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  rámců 0
 TX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 TX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  přenos 0  kolizí 0

 tombook tom #

 I've tried probably every solution I could find on forums, but nothing
 works. I would make me very happy if someone could help me solving this
 problem :)


 For further info here is my lspci, and config as attachment of this email.

 tombook tom # lspci -v
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root
 Complex
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 103b
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32
 lspci: Unable to load libkmod resources: error -12

 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
 Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 103b
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45
 Memory at c000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
 I/O ports at f000 [size=256]
 Memory at feb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
 Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
 Capabilities: [58] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010
 ?
 Kernel driver in use: radeon

 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler HDMI
 Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310]
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 103b
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 43
 Memory at feb44000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
 Capabilities: [58] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010
 ?
 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root
 Port (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
 I/O behind bridge: 1000-1fff
 Memory behind bridge: d010-d02f
 Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d030-d04f
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
 Capabilities: [58] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [b0] Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1234
 Capabilities: [b8] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Enable+ Fixed+
 Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010
 ?
 Kernel driver in use: pcieport

 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
 SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40) (prog-if 01 [AHCI
 1.0])
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 103b
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19
 I/O ports at f140 [size=8]
 I/O ports at f130 [size=4]
 I/O ports at f120 [size=8]
 I/O ports at f110 [size=4]
 I/O ports at f100 [size=16]
 Memory at feb4f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
 Capabilities: [70] SATA HBA v1.0
 Capabilities: [a4] PCI Advanced Features
 Kernel driver in use: ahci

 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
 SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 103b
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 18
 Memory at feb4e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

 00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
 SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 

Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:19:58 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote:

 You can see that my wifi interface does not come up and ifconfig don't
 know about it either.

 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n
 Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
 Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
 Memory at fea0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
 Capabilities: [58] Vendor Specific Information: Len=78 ?
 Capabilities: [48] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [d0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
 Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
 Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number 00-00-ca-ff-ff-66-00-08
 Capabilities: [16c] Power Budgeting ?
 Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge

It looks like a missing driver issue. I no longer use a BCM4313 but I'm
sure that wasn't the driver I used. Which BCM options do you have enabled
in the kernel?


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Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 I am following vanilla-sources in all my machines, which is what
 people like Greg Kroah-Hartman actually recommends [1][2]. Since they
 are now never stabilized [3], this means that I need to update them
 pretty regularly to keep them safe.
 
 This implies that I have to change the /usr/src/linux symbolic link,
 configure the kernel using make oldconfig, compile it, install it,
 install its modules, reemerge any package that provides kernel modules
 (if any), regenerate its initramfs, regenerate the GRUB2 config file
 OR adding a new entry in GRUB.
 
 None of this steps are particularly difficult, but any mistake in one
 of them can result in an unbootable system. So I wrote a little script
 that takes care of each of this steps automagically:
 
 https://github.com/canek-pelaez/kerninst
 
 So now everytime I need to use a new kernel version, I only do:
 
 # eselect kernel set new-kernel
 # kerninst
 
 Everything is done by the script.


Canek, how to handle changing configs?

AFAI understand I do:

eselect kernel set x
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
(SAVE .config)
cp .config /etc/kerninst/kernel-config
kerninst

... right?

I am currently struggling with a kernel not showing /dev/kvm ... and
toggling kvm_amd on/module ... etc

Thanks, Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Joakim Gebart
2013/10/2 Tomáš Hájek tomcat.mas...@gmail.com:
 Hi guys!
 For me this is first time installing gentoo on my own and right now I'm
 really out of ideas.

 My problem is:

 tombook tom # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
 net.wlan0   | * Bringing up interface wlan0
 net.wlan0   | *   ERROR: interface wlan0 does not exist
 net.wlan0   | *   Ensure that you have loaded the correct kernel module
 for your hardware
 net.wlan0   | * ERROR: net.wlan0 failed to start
 tombook tom #

 You can see that my wifi interface does not come up and ifconfig don't know
 about it either.

 tombook tom # ifconfig -a
 lo: flags=73AKTIVOVÁNO,SMYČKA,BĚŽÍ  mtu 65536
 inet 127.0.0.1 síťová_maska 255.0.0.0
 inet6 ::1  délka_prefixu 128  scopeid 0x10stroj
 loop délka_odchozí_fronty 0  (Místní smyčka)
 RX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 RX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  rámců 0
 TX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 TX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  přenos 0  kolizí 0

 sit0: flags=128NEARP  mtu 1480
 sit délka_odchozí_fronty 0  (IPv6-in-IPv4)
 RX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 RX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  rámců 0
 TX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
 TX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  přenos 0  kolizí 0

 tombook tom #

 I've tried probably every solution I could find on forums, but nothing
 works. I would make me very happy if someone could help me solving this
 problem :)


 For further info here is my lspci, and config as attachment of this email.

 tombook tom # lspci -v
-- snip --
 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n
 Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
 Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
 Memory at fea0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
 Capabilities: [58] Vendor Specific Information: Len=78 ?
 Capabilities: [48] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [d0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
 Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
 Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number 00-00-ca-ff-ff-66-00-08
 Capabilities: [16c] Power Budgeting ?
 Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge

According to the b43 page on linux wireless [1], the BCM4313 chipset
is not yet supported, but someone is working on it.
There is, however, another driver [2] which should work if the correct
firmware is installed, try emerging linux-firmware and then modprobe
brcmsmac


 As I said, I'm out of ideas and appreciate any help.
 Thanks
 ---
 Tomas Hajek
 CZE

[1]http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[2]http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211#Supported_Chips



Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-10-01 2:48 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
installation.



Why?


While I'm not sure why it matters to you, it is because I have a policy 
that I never change the defaults for anything without a (good) reason.



If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use
defaults, Gentoo is it.


True, but irrelevant to my question...


Someone had to decide the defaults - so, what are they? Anyone?



I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still
in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the
portage directory lives, but the handbook still refers to /usr/portage.


So you're saying Alan was wrong about /var being the new default...

Alan?



Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:04:16 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

  I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
  installation.  
 
  Why?  
 
 While I'm not sure why it matters to you,

Just curious.

 it is because I have a policy 
 that I never change the defaults for anything without a (good) reason.

That's reasonable, but I feel there's a good reason here - the default
location sucks.

  I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still
  in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the
  portage directory lives, but the handbook still refers
  to /usr/portage.  
 
 So you're saying Alan was wrong about /var being the new default...

Let's just say he appeared to misremember :)


-- 
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Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and some
people have mediocrity thrust upon them.  - Joseph Heller, Catch-22


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Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers:legacy fail to build with kernel 3.12

2013-10-02 Thread Helmut Jarausch

On 10/02/2013 09:06:42 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

On 02/10/2013 09:02, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On 10/01/2013 08:16:23 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am 01.10.2013 10:00, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
  Hi,
 
  in good tradition the new 3.12 Linux kernel breaks  ati-drivers
  again (as always in the past).
  Does anybody know about a patch to make
  x11-drivers/ati-drivers:legacy
  compile with linux-3.12-rc3 ?
 
  Trying to emerge ati-drivers-13.1_pre897 (currently the only  
legacy

  driver)
  with 3.12-rc3 gives
 
MODPOST 1 modules
  FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only  
symbol

  'acpi_bus_get_device'
 
  Many thanks for a hint,
  Helmut
 

 so you are using a driver meant for stable (old) systems, with a  
pre
 release kernel - and you don't even know what do do with that  
message?


 I'm quite sure there are a lot of things which you don't known  
either.


 Does that do no seem a bit silly? hm?

 Thanks for this compliment!

 acpi_bus_get_device is gpl only. You can undo that. If you want.

 But seriously, what is wrong with using stable releases like  
3.10.x? If
 you use ati-drivers, you don't need the amd driver improvements in  
3.11

 or 3.12.

 There are two points here:
 - first I consider it as my contribution to GenToo to help testing.
   The problem with the 3.12 prerelease will definitely continue  
with the

 main release
   coming in about 4 weeks.

 - This 3.12 prerelease has a lot of BTRFS pataches. Since I'm using
 BTRFS for most of
   my file systems, I like to have the most recent fixes.


Calm down boys.


Helmut, the problem is that you are trying to use ATI's proprietary  
code

with GPL code in the kernel.

The kernel devs do not want you to do that and that is their right.

What you should have done in your mail is indicate that you read the
error message and understand it, and why you want to continue
regradless. Then you should have mentioned what Google told you about
the problem, or something to show what you already did to help  
yourself.


As it stands you post is really just asking someone else to do your
homework for you and that you are too lazy to do it yourself. I'm sure
that's not want you are really doing, it just looks that way.



Hi Alan,

the only fix I have found with Google is a patch to the kernel itself.
This works but I don't like it.
Up to now, all similar problems in the past have been fixed by patches  
to the ati-drivers.
But I haven't found such a patch, perhaps it's impossible to fix it by  
only patching

the ati-drivers, this time. Linus makes our life a bit harder.

Helmut



Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-10-01 7:41 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

/var makes sense to me, it's where I put the tree (but not packages or
distfiles).


Why not these?



Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-02 Thread J. Roeleveld
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:27 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I hate getting older.  lol 

It's a lot better than the alternative...


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.

What is wrong with getting younger?

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

[gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

I try to set up KVM/QEMU on that new and shiny AMD server

24 cores of Opteron:

processor   : 23
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 21
model   : 2
model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6344

nice

I want gentoo-sources-3.10.7 (stable and long term supported) or
3.10.7-r1 (not yet on the machine).

I don't get /dev/kvm :-(

Right now I want this as a module kvm_amd or so.

# zgrep -i kvm /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQCHIP=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQ_ROUTING=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_EVENTFD=y
CONFIG_KVM_APIC_ARCHITECTURE=y
CONFIG_KVM_MMIO=y
CONFIG_KVM_ASYNC_PF=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_MSI=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_CPU_RELAX_INTERCEPT=y
CONFIG_KVM=m
CONFIG_KVM_INTEL=m
CONFIG_KVM_AMD=m

I compile the kernel with Canek's kerninst-script (see other thread).

kvm_amd does not load and gives me dozens of:

# dmesg | grep kvm  | head
[   13.460423] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_rdpmc (err 0)
[   13.460429] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_read_guest_page (err 0)
[   13.460437] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_requeue_exception (err 0)
[   13.460439] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_exit (err 0)
[   13.460441] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_init (err 0)
[   13.460444] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_enable_efer_bits (err 0)
[   13.460448] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_fast_pio_out (err 0)
[   13.460453] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol gfn_to_page (err 0)


*sigh*

With the kernel booted I now do:

cd /usr/src/linux
make clean modules modules_install

and see if I can load the module(s) then.

In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I
expected way more *bang* for the bucks ...

still unsure if that clocksource-topic might be relevant or if my kernel
config is somehow stupid.

Stefan





Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:04, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2013-10-01 2:48 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
 I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
 installation.
 
 Why?
 
 While I'm not sure why it matters to you, it is because I have a policy
 that I never change the defaults for anything without a (good) reason.
 
 If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use
 defaults, Gentoo is it.
 
 True, but irrelevant to my question...
 
 Someone had to decide the defaults - so, what are they? Anyone?
 
 I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still
 in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the
 portage directory lives, but the handbook still refers to /usr/portage.
 
 So you're saying Alan was wrong about /var being the new default...
 
 Alan?


Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along.

You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to
a long-standing bug.

Incidentally, do you know why the tree is in /usr? Because FreeBSD ports
puts it there. Why did they do that? Because FreeBSD is not Linux; it is
derived from SysV, which puts home directories and all manner of other
things in /usr.

It's as simple as that.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:12, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:04:16 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
 
 I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch
 installation.  

 Why?  

 While I'm not sure why it matters to you,
 
 Just curious.
 
 it is because I have a policy 
 that I never change the defaults for anything without a (good) reason.
 
 That's reasonable, but I feel there's a good reason here - the default
 location sucks.
 
 I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still
 in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the
 portage directory lives, but the handbook still refers
 to /usr/portage.  

 So you're saying Alan was wrong about /var being the new default...
 
 Let's just say he appeared to misremember :)


A spade is a spade, not a hand-powered earth moving implement.

He was plain wrong :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I
 expected way more *bang* for the bucks ...
 
 still unsure if that clocksource-topic might be relevant or if my kernel
 config is somehow stupid.

Additional (for the performance issues):

# emerge --info

Portage 2.2.1 (default/linux/amd64/13.0, gcc-4.6.3, glibc-2.15-r3,
3.10.7-gentoo x86_64)
=
System uname:
Linux-3.10.7-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Opteron-tm-_Processor_6344-with-gentoo-2.2
KiB Mem:65965636 total,  64395888 free
KiB Swap:8388604 total,   8388604 free
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 00:45:01 +
ld GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.23.1
app-shells/bash:  4.2_p45
dev-lang/python:  2.7.5-r2, 3.2.5-r2
dev-util/cmake:   2.8.10.2-r2
dev-util/pkgconfig:   0.28
sys-apps/baselayout:  2.2
sys-apps/openrc:  0.11.8
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.6-r1
sys-devel/autoconf:   2.69
sys-devel/automake:   1.10.3, 1.11.6, 1.12.6, 1.13.4
sys-devel/binutils:   2.23.1
sys-devel/gcc:4.5.4, 4.6.3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool:2.4-r1
sys-devel/make:   3.82-r4
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.9 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:   2.15-r3
Repositories: gentoo hiro-oops-intern
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -@EULA
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/gconf
/etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FCFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs buildpkg config-protect-if-modified
distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles merge-sync news nodoc noinfo noman
notitles parallel-fetch preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms
strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch
userpriv usersandbox usersync
FFLAGS=-O2 -pipe
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org;
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
MAKEOPTS=-j16
PKGDIR=/var/portage/packages
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats
--human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
--exclude=/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
USE=acl amd64 berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cxx dri fortran gdbm
iconv ipv6 mmx modules mudflap multilib ncurses nls nptl openmp pam pcre
readline session sse sse2 ssl systemd tcpd udev unicode zlib
ABI_X86=64 ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x
ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel
intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem
ymfpci APACHE2_MODULES=alias cgi headers filter deflate perl
CALLIGRA_FEATURES=kexi words flow plan sheets stage tables krita karbon
braindump author CAMERAS=ptp2 COLLECTD_PLUGINS=df interface irq load
memory rrdtool swap syslog CURL_SSL=openssl
DRACUT_MODULES=biosdevname caps lvm mdraid ELIBC=glibc
GPSD_PROTOCOLS=ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt
gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore
rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad
cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text
LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS=presenter-console presenter-minimizer
OFFICE_IMPLEMENTATION=libreoffice PHP_TARGETS=php5-5
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2
RUBY_TARGETS=ruby19 ruby18 USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev glint
intel mach64 mga nouveau nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa via
vmware dummy v4l XTABLES_ADDONS=quota2 psd pknock lscan length2
ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq
steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account
Unset:  CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG,
LC_ALL, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS,
PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, SYNC, USE_PYTHON





Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 02.10.2013 14:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 
 In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I
 expected way more *bang* for the bucks ...

And our new and ambitious friend also comes along ;-)

systemd-tmpfiles ... hogs CPU ... stopped it now ... and will look for
details in the evening.

Now the load is lower and compiling the modules is much faster. Maybe
this even solves the network-issue!?

Still the Unknown symbol for kvm_amd ...



Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-10-02 8:28 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along.


I thought I was wrong once, but then discovered that I was mistaken... ;)


You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to
a long-standing bug.


I'm still waiting to hear why Neil doesn't move packages and distfiles 
there... sounded like he had a good reason...




Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Tomáš Hájek
dmesg says only:

tom@tombook ~ $ dmesg | grep -i firmware
[0.099927] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored

I already have linux-firmware in my system, just put brcmsmac in my kernel
(was set to =n), and still have same result tough.
Only difference is that rfkill list all now see wifi card and says that it
is not blocked (before it could not see a thing)

Any other ideas?
Thanks
TomH


2013/10/2 Joakim Gebart joa...@gebart.se

 2013/10/2 Tomáš Hájek tomcat.mas...@gmail.com:
  Hi guys!
  For me this is first time installing gentoo on my own and right now I'm
  really out of ideas.
 
  My problem is:
 
  tombook tom # /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
  net.wlan0   | * Bringing up interface wlan0
  net.wlan0   | *   ERROR: interface wlan0 does not exist
  net.wlan0   | *   Ensure that you have loaded the correct kernel
 module
  for your hardware
  net.wlan0   | * ERROR: net.wlan0 failed to start
  tombook tom #
 
  You can see that my wifi interface does not come up and ifconfig don't
 know
  about it either.
 
  tombook tom # ifconfig -a
  lo: flags=73AKTIVOVÁNO,SMYČKA,BĚŽÍ  mtu 65536
  inet 127.0.0.1 síťová_maska 255.0.0.0
  inet6 ::1  délka_prefixu 128  scopeid 0x10stroj
  loop délka_odchozí_fronty 0  (Místní smyčka)
  RX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
  RX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  rámců 0
  TX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
  TX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  přenos 0  kolizí 0
 
  sit0: flags=128NEARP  mtu 1480
  sit délka_odchozí_fronty 0  (IPv6-in-IPv4)
  RX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
  RX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  rámců 0
  TX packetů 0  bajtů 0 (0,0 B)
  TX chyb 0  zahozeno 0  přetečení 0  přenos 0  kolizí 0
 
  tombook tom #
 
  I've tried probably every solution I could find on forums, but nothing
  works. I would make me very happy if someone could help me solving this
  problem :)
 
 
  For further info here is my lspci, and config as attachment of this
 email.
 
  tombook tom # lspci -v
 -- snip --
  04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n
  Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
  Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047
  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
  Memory at fea0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
  Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
  Capabilities: [58] Vendor Specific Information: Len=78 ?
  Capabilities: [48] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
  Capabilities: [d0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
  Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
  Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
  Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number 00-00-ca-ff-ff-66-00-08
  Capabilities: [16c] Power Budgeting ?
  Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge

 According to the b43 page on linux wireless [1], the BCM4313 chipset
 is not yet supported, but someone is working on it.
 There is, however, another driver [2] which should work if the correct
 firmware is installed, try emerging linux-firmware and then modprobe
 brcmsmac

 
  As I said, I'm out of ideas and appreciate any help.
  Thanks
  ---
  Tomas Hajek
  CZE

 [1]http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
 [2]http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211#Supported_Chips




Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Kerin Millar

On 02/10/2013 13:27, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:


I try to set up KVM/QEMU on that new and shiny AMD server

24 cores of Opteron:

processor   : 23
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 21
model   : 2
model name  : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 6344

nice

I want gentoo-sources-3.10.7 (stable and long term supported) or
3.10.7-r1 (not yet on the machine).

I don't get /dev/kvm :-(

Right now I want this as a module kvm_amd or so.

# zgrep -i kvm /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQCHIP=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQ_ROUTING=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_EVENTFD=y
CONFIG_KVM_APIC_ARCHITECTURE=y
CONFIG_KVM_MMIO=y
CONFIG_KVM_ASYNC_PF=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_MSI=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_CPU_RELAX_INTERCEPT=y
CONFIG_KVM=m
CONFIG_KVM_INTEL=m
CONFIG_KVM_AMD=m

I compile the kernel with Canek's kerninst-script (see other thread).

kvm_amd does not load and gives me dozens of:

# dmesg | grep kvm  | head
[   13.460423] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_rdpmc (err 0)
[   13.460429] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_read_guest_page (err 0)
[   13.460437] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_requeue_exception (err 0)
[   13.460439] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_exit (err 0)
[   13.460441] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_init (err 0)
[   13.460444] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_enable_efer_bits (err 0)
[   13.460448] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol kvm_fast_pio_out (err 0)
[   13.460453] kvm_amd: Unknown symbol gfn_to_page (err 0)


Run modinfo kvm kvm-amd and check for discrepancies between the 
details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field.




*sigh*

With the kernel booted I now do:

cd /usr/src/linux
make clean modules modules_install


I would suggest make mrproper to clean the source tree. Ensure that 
the .config has been backed up because it will be deleted as a result.




and see if I can load the module(s) then.

In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I
expected way more *bang* for the bucks ...

still unsure if that clocksource-topic might be relevant or if my kernel
config is somehow stupid.

Stefan


--Kerin



Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
 Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
 
 http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html

Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.

I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in
the tree [1].

William

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744



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Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote:
  Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas:
  
  http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html
 
 Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other
 members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well.
 
 I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in
 the tree [1].
 
 William
 
 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744

Found that bug report earlier and CCed myself. Will track the progress, maybe
use it on a test box I plan to build soon.
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Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 08:23:07 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:

  /var makes sense to me, it's where I put the tree (but not packages or
  distfiles).  
 
 Why not these?

Because they have no place in the portage tree. The portage tree contains
thousands of small files, but remains largely the same size. On the other
hand $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR contain files that are not controlled by
portage and grow continually without manual intervention.

I keep $DISTDIR on an NFS mount for the reason I gave earlier in this
thread, to save downloading the files more than once. I have $PKGDIR on
the same mount, which is also used for overlays. I would rather have that
directory, which is only used for portage files, hit 100% when I'm not
looking that /var or /usr.

If I were running a single Gentoo machine, I'd probably put $DISTDIR in
the logical place of /var/cache (that's where other package managers
keep their downloads) and use eclean-dist to stop it overflowing, or put
a quota on the directory.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 14:23:22 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:

  I hate getting older.  lol   
 
 It's a lot better than the alternative...
 
 What is wrong with getting younger?

pedantThat's an opposite, not an alternative/pedant


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Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:31:27 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote:

 I already have linux-firmware in my system, just put brcmsmac in my
 kernel (was set to =n), and still have same result tough.
 Only difference is that rfkill list all now see wifi card and says that
 it is not blocked (before it could not see a thing)

What does lspci -k -s 04:00.0 show.

Is the brcmsmac module loaded?


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Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 14:53, Tanstaafl wrote:
 On 2013-10-02 8:28 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I looks like I was wrong all along.
 
 I thought I was wrong once, but then discovered that I was mistaken... ;)
 
 You should still move portage to var though. Consider it a local fix to
 a long-standing bug.
 
 I'm still waiting to hear why Neil doesn't move packages and distfiles
 there... sounded like he had a good reason...
 


He's English, and old(-ish)

My money says he forgot.

:-)

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] kerninst (was Optional /usr merge in Gentoo)

2013-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
 Am 01.09.2013 19:30, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 I am following vanilla-sources in all my machines, which is what
 people like Greg Kroah-Hartman actually recommends [1][2]. Since they
 are now never stabilized [3], this means that I need to update them
 pretty regularly to keep them safe.

 This implies that I have to change the /usr/src/linux symbolic link,
 configure the kernel using make oldconfig, compile it, install it,
 install its modules, reemerge any package that provides kernel modules
 (if any), regenerate its initramfs, regenerate the GRUB2 config file
 OR adding a new entry in GRUB.

 None of this steps are particularly difficult, but any mistake in one
 of them can result in an unbootable system. So I wrote a little script
 that takes care of each of this steps automagically:

 https://github.com/canek-pelaez/kerninst

 So now everytime I need to use a new kernel version, I only do:

 # eselect kernel set new-kernel
 # kerninst

 Everything is done by the script.


 Canek, how to handle changing configs?

 AFAI understand I do:

 eselect kernel set x
 cd /usr/src/linux
 make menuconfig
 (SAVE .config)
 cp .config /etc/kerninst/kernel-config
 kerninst

 ... right?

 I am currently struggling with a kernel not showing /dev/kvm ... and
 toggling kvm_amd on/module ... etc

Yeah, that's the way to do it. However, kerninst is not for testing
different configurations of kernels. I suppose you could use it that
way, but I wrote exactly for the opposite case: when you finally have
your configuration nailed down, and just want to automatize the
installation of the kernel.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar:

 Run modinfo kvm kvm-amd and check for discrepancies between the
 details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field.

[...]

 I would suggest make mrproper to clean the source tree. Ensure that
 the .config has been backed up because it will be deleted as a result.

I had no module kvm because one was built as module and one into the
kernel. I now did mrproper and recompile both kvm and kvm_amd into the
kernel. The next reboot will show ...

Thanks!



Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Tomáš Hájek
tombook tom # lspci -k -s 04:00.0
04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n
Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047
Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge

I use brcmsmac built in, not as module.

How do I make it use brcmsmac instead of bcma-pci-bridge driver?

TomH

2013/10/2 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk

 On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:31:27 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote:

  I already have linux-firmware in my system, just put brcmsmac in my
  kernel (was set to =n), and still have same result tough.
  Only difference is that rfkill list all now see wifi card and says that
  it is not blocked (before it could not see a thing)

 What does lspci -k -s 04:00.0 show.

 Is the brcmsmac module loaded?


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 Favorite Windoze game: Guess what this icon does?



Re: [gentoo-user] Sloppy sterm screen update over ssh

2013-10-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
   I've recently noticed when ssh'ing into another machine that the xterm
 display doesn't fully update.  I.e. there are holes where an app
 updates over a previous screen.  I've tried Google, but any mention of
 screen is interpreted as the screen utility.

Hi,

Are you running xterm over ssh (X11 forwarding) or are you running an
ssh session inside of an xterm? If the latter I have experienced
something similar when my TERM variable was not set correctly and
things like Midnight Commander would not fill in the blue background
(for example) or fail to blank the screen on updates.



Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 18:31:04 +0200, Tomáš Hájek wrote:

 tombook tom # lspci -k -s 04:00.0
 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n
 Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
 Subsystem: AzureWave Device 2047
 Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge
 
 I use brcmsmac built in, not as module.
 
 How do I make it use brcmsmac instead of bcma-pci-bridge driver?

Build both as modules, at least while you get it working. Then to can
rmmod, modprobe and blacklist at will.

PS please don't top-post, it is not welcome on this list.


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Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Oct 2013 17:47:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  I'm still waiting to hear why Neil doesn't move packages and distfiles
  there... sounded like he had a good reason...

 He's English, and old(-ish)
 
 My money says he forgot.

Misremembered actually.

In fact, I replied when I saw it, I sometimes go an hour without checking
my email (but not often)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 18:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar:
 
 Run modinfo kvm kvm-amd and check for discrepancies between the
 details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field.
 
 [...]
 
 I would suggest make mrproper to clean the source tree. Ensure that
 the .config has been backed up because it will be deleted as a result.
 
 I had no module kvm because one was built as module and one into the
 kernel. I now did mrproper and recompile both kvm and kvm_amd into the
 kernel. The next reboot will show ...

Rather simple issue:

I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got
listed first in grub.conf.

kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various
recompilings never changed the kernel itself but only the modules ...
which lead to strange mismatches ...

Now I am on a clean and mrproper 3.10.7-r1 ... WITH /dev/kvm !

Thanks!

And the performance of the first VM looks good ... even with the vmdk
... conversion will follow.

Stefan




Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread the
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On 09/29/13 15:03, Greg Woodbury wrote:
 On 09/29/2013 06:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 
 why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL?
 
 They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone
 to break.
 
 Except that systemd *is* why a seperate /usr is broken now. Parts
 of the libraries that systemd depend on we *deliberately* placed in
 /usr despite the fact that they are needed to bbring the system to
 an operational state.  For *years* things required to boot the
 system were defined to be in the root file system, and items not
 required until after mounting had been accomplished were to be
 placed in /usr.

Why would someone do that?

 BTW: There is a standard (The File System Hierarch Standard - FSS)
 that existed and described this behaviour.  It was killed off by
 deliberate vendor refusals to support or adhere to it.  In
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Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Kerin Millar

On 02/10/2013 17:47, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

Am 02.10.2013 18:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar:


Run modinfo kvm kvm-amd and check for discrepancies between the
details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field.


[...]


I would suggest make mrproper to clean the source tree. Ensure that
the .config has been backed up because it will be deleted as a result.


I had no module kvm because one was built as module and one into the
kernel. I now did mrproper and recompile both kvm and kvm_amd into the
kernel. The next reboot will show ...


Rather simple issue:

I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got
listed first in grub.conf.

kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various
recompilings never changed the kernel itself but only the modules ...
which lead to strange mismatches ...


You could customize EXTRAVERSION for your safe kernel to prevent this 
from happening. It can be modified in the Makefile or - if I recall 
correctly - by creating a file named localversion-safe in the root of 
the source tree and enabling CONFIG_LOCALVERSION. That way, its module 
directory would be distinct.




Now I am on a clean and mrproper 3.10.7-r1 ... WITH /dev/kvm !

Thanks!

And the performance of the first VM looks good ... even with the vmdk
... conversion will follow.

Stefan






Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
 Am 02.10.2013 18:31, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 02.10.2013 15:54, schrieb Kerin Millar:

 Run modinfo kvm kvm-amd and check for discrepancies between the
 details of the two, especially regarding the vermagic field.

 [...]

 I would suggest make mrproper to clean the source tree. Ensure that
 the .config has been backed up because it will be deleted as a result.

 I had no module kvm because one was built as module and one into the
 kernel. I now did mrproper and recompile both kvm and kvm_amd into the
 kernel. The next reboot will show ...

 Rather simple issue:

 I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got
 listed first in grub.conf.

kerninst is pretty stupid. To create the list of kernels (in GRUB, not
GRUB2), it simply lists the kernels in /boot, sorts them inverted by
version, and then uses that order for the listing.

Therefore, if you have:

vmlinuz-3.9
vmlinuz-3.8
vmlinuz-3.10
vmlinuz-blah

the inverted sort by version will be:

vmlinuz-blah
vmlinuz-3.10
vmlinuz-3.9
vmlinuz-3.8

and the kernel with an alphanumeric version will be always be the default.

 kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various
 recompilings never changed the kernel itself but only the modules ...
 which lead to strange mismatches ...

That should explain everything.

As I said before, kerninst was not written to test configurations; is
for when you have nailed the configuration and want to automatize the
kernel update.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 19:11, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

 the inverted sort by version will be:
 
 vmlinuz-blah
 vmlinuz-3.10
 vmlinuz-3.9
 vmlinuz-3.8
 
 and the kernel with an alphanumeric version will be always be the default.

Exactly what I saw, yes. No complaints ... ok with me, I should have
checked my grub.conf as well (and did in the end).

 kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various
 recompilings never changed the kernel itself but only the modules ...
 which lead to strange mismatches ...
 
 That should explain everything.

 As I said before, kerninst was not written to test configurations; is
 for when you have nailed the configuration and want to automatize the
 kernel update.

Yep.

I just want to settle on one method to generate the kernel(s) even on
that customer server. Right now I am still tuning and toggling around ;-)

S




Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 02.10.2013 14:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 02.10.2013 14:27, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 In general I am rather disappointed by the performance of this server. I
 expected way more *bang* for the bucks ...
 
 And our new and ambitious friend also comes along ;-)
 
 systemd-tmpfiles ... hogs CPU ... stopped it now ... and will look for
 details in the evening.

that one is still unsolved ... although since the last booting (now with
systemd-204-r1) I don't see that hogging process anymore.

Maybe something in the changelog:

http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/systemd/ChangeLog?view=markup

the tmpfiles-related stuff seems for 206 only.

Anyway, it seems to work now. great.



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote:
 Rsync mirrors don't grow on trees, man.  People pay good money to
 provide that service to us.  You should seriously be embarrassed to
 have posted this.

 Really?


 Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure:

 SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage


 I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more
 traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the
 peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even
 it out a bit :-)

Challenge accepted. :)

Here's my sync summary  (I'm in the USA):

Number of files: 174305
Number of files transferred: 50913
Total file size: 305.99M bytes
Total transferred file size: 73.98M bytes
Literal data: 73.98M bytes
Matched data: 0 bytes
File list size: 4.31M
File list generation time: 343.526 seconds
File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
Total bytes sent: 1.12M
Total bytes received: 41.37M

sent 1.12M bytes  received 41.37M bytes  64.33K bytes/sec
total size is 305.99M  speedup is 7.20



Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-10-02 11:31 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:

Because they have no place in the portage tree. The portage tree contains
thousands of small files, but remains largely the same size. On the other
hand $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR contain files that are not controlled by
portage and grow continually without manual intervention.


Ah... so you did move them from /usr, just not into /var/portage...

Ok, thanks much guys... guess I'll go with Alans layout as it makes the 
most sense to me:


/var/portage
/var/distfiles
/var/packages

Thanks again...



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure:
 
 SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage
 
 
 I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more
 traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the
 peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even
 it out a bit :-)

Just for giggles I tried it too, from the US. Slower than turtles mating. ;)
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting



Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 06:47:21PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
 
 Rather simple issue:
 
 I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got
 listed first in grub.conf.
 
 kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various
 recompilings never changed the kernel itself but only the modules ...
 which lead to strange mismatches ...
 
 Now I am on a clean and mrproper 3.10.7-r1 ... WITH /dev/kvm !
 
 Thanks!
 
 And the performance of the first VM looks good ... even with the vmdk
 ... conversion will follow.
 
 Stefan

rm kerninst
less /usr/src/linux/README (proper instructions)

wash, rinse, repeat :-)
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting



Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-10-02 Thread Grant
 I see what you desire now - essentially you want to clone your laptop
 (or big chunks of it) over to your other workstations.

I've been working on this and I think I have a good and simple plan.

My laptop roams around with me and is the master system.  The office
router is the submaster system.  All of the other office systems are
minion systems.  All of the systems are 100% hardware-identical
laptops.  All of the minions are 100% software-identical.

I install every package that any system needs on the master and create
an SSH keypair.  The only config files that change from their state on
the master are: /etc/conf.d/hostname, /etc/conf.d/net,
/etc/ssh/sshd_config, /etc/shorewall/*.  I write comments in those
files which serve as flags for scripted changes.

I write a script that is run from the master to the submaster, or from
the submaster to a minion.  If it's the former, rsync / is run with
exceptions (/usr/portage, /usr/local/portage, /var/log, /tmp, /home,
/root but /root/.ssh/id_rsa_script* is included), my personal user is
removed, a series of workstation users are created with useradd -m,
services are added or removed from /etc/runlevels/default, and config
files are changed according to comment flags.  If it's the latter,
rsync / is run without exceptions, services are added or removed from
/etc/runlevels/default, and config files are changed according to
comment flags.

All user info on the submaster and minions would be effectively reset
whenever the script is run and that's fine.  Root logins would have to
be allowed on the submaster and minions but only with the SSH key.
There are probably more paths to exclude when rsyncing master to
submaster.

That's it.  No matter how numerous the minions become, this should
allow me to keep everything running by administrating only my own
system, pushing that to the submaster, and having the submaster push
to the minions.  I've been going over the nitty-gritty and everything
looks good.

What do you think?  Is there anything inherently wrong with rsyncing /
onto a running system?  If there are little or no changes to make,
about how much data would actually be transferred?  Is there a better
tool for this than rsync?  I know Funtoo uses git for syncing with
their portage tree.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 20:51, schrieb Bruce Hill:

 rm kerninst
 less /usr/src/linux/README (proper instructions)
 
 wash, rinse, repeat :-)

;-)  ... I take this as an option ;-)





Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?

2013-10-02 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 02.10.2013 14:38, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -pipe

Do you agree with me on these CFLAGS ?

AMD Opteron 6344 ...

And I assume I should rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_MK8 ?

Thanks, Stefan



[gentoo-user] Installing (154 of 154) sys-apps/usbutils-006-r1

2013-10-02 Thread Richard Gration
This emerge just finished on a box that hasn't been booted in 4 months, let
alone updated. I moved from profile 10.0 to 13.0. Take a bow, Gentoo devs
:-)

Rich


Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 failed to start

2013-10-02 Thread Lee
Usually this indicates a lack of kernel support. I would check kernel
.config or menuconfig to ensure all your Broadcom support has been enabled.
if you know which modules are involved you can use modprobe  to check them
out (see if they're loaded or unavailable or whatever ). Good luck!


Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-10-02 2:24 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:

Ok, thanks much guys... guess I'll go with Alans layout as it makes the
most sense to me:

/var/portage
/var/distfiles
/var/packages


Actually, I think I like:

/var/portage/tree
/var/portage/distfiles
/var/portage/packages

better... :)



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 01/10/2013 17:17, Greg Turner wrote:
 Rsync mirrors don't grow on trees, man.  People pay good money to
 provide that service to us.  You should seriously be embarrassed to
 have posted this.

 Really?


 Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure:

 SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage


 I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more
 traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the
 peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even
 it out a bit :-)
 
 Challenge accepted. :)
 
 Here's my sync summary  (I'm in the USA):
 
 Number of files: 174305
 Number of files transferred: 50913
   ^
 Total file size: 305.99M bytes
 Total transferred file size: 73.98M bytes
 Literal data: 73.98M bytes
 Matched data: 0 bytes
 File list size: 4.31M
 File list generation time: 343.526 seconds
 ^^^
 File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds
 Total bytes sent: 1.12M
 Total bytes received: 41.37M
 
 sent 1.12M bytes  received 41.37M bytes  64.33K bytes/sec
 total size is 305.99M  speedup is 7.20


You don't sync very often, right?


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/10/2013 20:48, Bruce Hill wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure:

 SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage


 I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more
 traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the
 peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even
 it out a bit :-)
 
 Just for giggles I tried it too, from the US. Slower than turtles mating. ;)
 


Give the poor thing a break - it's not dedicated to Gentoo :-)

There's about 11TB of mirrors on that host = full copies of every major
distro, most of the popular middle teir ones and full copies of all 3 BSDs

The general public keep it busy - I blame them :-)


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Sloppy sterm screen update over ssh

2013-10-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:33:19AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote
 On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
I've recently noticed when ssh'ing into another machine that the xterm
  display doesn't fully update.  I.e. there are holes where an app
  updates over a previous screen.  I've tried Google, but any mention of
  screen is interpreted as the screen utility.
 
 Hi,
 
 Are you running xterm over ssh (X11 forwarding) or are you running an
 ssh session inside of an xterm? If the latter I have experienced
 something similar when my TERM variable was not set correctly and
 things like Midnight Commander would not fill in the blue background
 (for example) or fail to blank the screen on updates.

  Another Midnight Commander user!  Yes, I fire up an xterm locally, and
then ssh to another machine.  I notice this especially with mc and vim.
Thanks for the pointer.  Now that I know what I should be looking for, a
Google search indicates I should have...

TERM=xterm

  Is that correct?  It seems to solve my problem.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications



[gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Callen
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On 09/30/2013 06:22 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 12:01:27 +0200, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote:
 
 mount /usr -o remount,ro mkdir /newusr rsync -a /usr/ /new/usr/ Comment out 
 /usr line in
 /etc/fstab mv /usr /oldusr mv /newusr /usr reboot rmdir /oldusr
 
 What you do with the old partition is up to you. In this case the 
 discussion was about /usr
 on LVM, so you just delete it and allocate the space elsewhere when needed.
 
 You can even leave out the step of creating a new directory and moving it 
 later if you
 bind-mount you rootfs somewhere, e.g. /mnt/gentoo.
 
 Good point.
 
 You may want to add some parameters to the call to rsync, though (e.g. those 
 that preserve
 permissions, xattrs (especially for SELinux or XT-PaX) and owner/group 
 (should be -pogX),
 
 -a covers most if not all of those.
 
 possibly -x aswell (if you have other filesystems under /usr (e.g. a 
 discrete FS for the
 portage tree).
 
 Another good point, one of those things you think of immediately after 
 hitting Send :(
 
 

Specifically, I would use -axAHX (-rlptgoD are implied by -a, but -HAX are not).

- From rsync(1):

- -aarchive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)
- -rrecurse into directories
- -lcopy symlinks as symlinks
- -ppreserve permissions
- -tpreserve modification times
- -gpreserve group
- -opreserve owner
- -Dpreserve device files and special files
- -Hpreserve hard links
- -Apreserve ACLs (implies -p)
- -Xpreserve extended attributes
- -xdon't cross filesystem boundaries

- -- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] SystemD + Gnome 3.8 I can log in as root but not as normal user

2013-10-02 Thread Carlos Sura
This did not worked out:

USE=suid emerge -pv --update --changed-use world

it did not showed anything to emerge.


On 1 October 2013 02:29, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:30:51AM -0600, Carlos Sura wrote
  Hello Mates,
 
  I finally thought that I got this working, so now I am dealing this
 issue:
  I choose the latest kernel with systemd and GDM starts good, but I cannot
  log in to gnome as a normal user, I can only log in to gnome as root.
 
  What I have done before this started:
 
  emerge -uDvaN world
  emerge --depclean --ask
  emerge @preserved-rebuild
 
  Then it just happened.
 
  What I've tried so far:
  - .xinitrc with exec gnome-session for user and root
  -  emerge -1 $( qlist -IC x11-drivers/ )
  - emerge @x11-module-rebuild
  -  X -configure
 
 
  Another note:
  Starting gnome as normal user just hang, apparently it wants to start but
  it cannot start. Neither doing: startx.

   Can you temporarily rename your Gnome config file/directory on your
 system, and see if it'll work with a fresh start?

   Another option to try, just as a test only, is...

 USE=suid emerge -pv --update --changed-use world

   Does that bring up anything related to Gnome?

 --
 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
 I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications




-- 
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www.carlossura.com
www.carlossura.com/blog


Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN

2013-10-02 Thread Bruce Hill
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:54:30PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 02/10/2013 20:48, Bruce Hill wrote:
  On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
  Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure:
 
  SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage
 
 
  I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more
  traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the
  peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even
  it out a bit :-)
  
  Just for giggles I tried it too, from the US. Slower than turtles mating. ;)
  
 
 
 Give the poor thing a break - it's not dedicated to Gentoo :-)
 
 There's about 11TB of mirrors on that host = full copies of every major
 distro, most of the popular middle teir ones and full copies of all 3 BSDs
 
 The general public keep it busy - I blame them :-)

I didn't mean anything disrespectful (notice my winky), just that from the US
it's rather slow. But it's still listed, commented, in make.conf.

Thanks, Alan!
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Re: PORTDIR default - changing PORTDIR variable - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-10-02 Thread joost
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/10/2013 20:48, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:15:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
 
 I'm interested in what the DEFAULTS are, ie, for a new/from scratch 
 installation.
 
 Why? If ever there was a distro for people that didn't want to use
 defaults, Gentoo is it.
 
 Someone had to decide the defaults - so, what are they? Anyone?
 
 I installed a VM a couple of weeks ago and I'm sure portage was still
 in /usr. It's easy enough to tell, unpack a stage 3 and see where the
 portage directory lives, but the handbook still refers to
/usr/portage.
 
 

Please say it isn't so, otherwise I'm going to look like a right royal
chump.

Or maybe I just change it all on automatic these days and forget it do
it. But it was definitely discussed on -dev at length. i could be wrong
about the end result bashful



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You always grab the latest stage3?
I generally make a copy of an exiating up-to-date system and use that.

That works best as they all use NFS and  set of links for portage.

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