Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Init Scripts Not Starting
Alright, so... I haven't mentioned it up until now because I didn't feel it would have any bearing on the problem, but the installation in question is a VirtualBox guest operating system running on a Windows host. Since I didn't have any particular attachment to the installation, I decided to fdisk and start from scratch. I did this and got the barest most basic Gentoo installation up and running. After I had done this, I realized that I had forgotten to add net.eth0 to default. I did so, rebooted, and sure enough, net.eth0 did not start. I then went and meditated under a tree for a while, because it seemed the world had finally turned its back on me. After this, I said 'what the hell' and tried out a few things. One of the things I tried was to rebuild openrc. For whatever reason, this worked. I'm going to try this on another installation of VirtualBox on another machine and try to reproduce it, but I'm still a little in the dark. This installation was built using the latest minimal install iso, latest stage3 and latest portage snapshot.
Re: [gentoo-user] Init Scripts Not Starting
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:17 AM, YoYo Siska y...@gl.ksp.sk wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 08:31:08PM -0800, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hey list, A little while after I compiled Gnome and got things running, I lost the ability to add scripts to the default runlevel. I can run rc-update add xdm default, for example, and the xdm symlink will appear in /etc/runlevels/default, and that symlink will indeed point to /etc/init.d/xdm, but xdm will not start. Further to that, there's no evidence to indicate that RC is even trying to start it. No errors, no logs, no nothing. Same goes for virtualbox-guest-additions and sysklogd. I tried logging rc and got absolutely nowhere. There's nothing overt in dmesg either. The really fun part is these scripts function perfectly if I run them after boot. Since there's no evidence of this problem in any logs or during the startup process, I assume there is no problem and I am doing it wrong. Is it possible that you are booting into a different runlevel that default ? (there's a softlevel=... kernel cmdline parameter) What happens if (after boot) you just run rc (should start all service in the current runlevel, that are not started yet) or rc default (should swithc to 'default' runlevel and start all services) ? Could you post the output of rc-status -a ? And maybe also grep rc /etc/inittab ? For xdm there is one additional thing to check: xdm can be disabled through a 'nox' kernel cmdline option or an /etc/.noxdm file... But in that case the initscript itself should start and just print a message, that it is not starting the DM. yoyo Hey, thanks for the reply. Running rc or rc default returns immediately. I am sure I am starting into the default runlevel because ntp-client runs on default and it starts no problem. Output from grep rc /etc/inittab: si::sysinit:/sbin/rc sysinit rc::bootwait:/sbin/rc boot l0:0:wait:/sbin/rc shutdown l1:1:wait:/sbin/rc single l2:2:wait:/sbin/rc nonetwork l3:3:wait:/sbin/rc default l4:4:wait:/sbin/rc default l5:5:wait:/sbin/rc default l6:6:wait:/sbin/rc reboot su0:S:wait:/sbin/rc single Output from rc-status -a: Runlevel: default net.eth1 [ started ] dbus [ started ] net.eth0 [ started ] netmount [ started ] ntp-client[ started ] sshd [ started ] udev-postmount[ started ] local [ started ] Runlevel: sysinit dmesg [ started ] udev [ started ] devfs [ started ] Runlevel: boot hwclock [ started ] modules [ started ] fsck [ started ] root [ started ] mtab [ started ] localmount[ started ] sysctl[ started ] bootmisc [ started ] urandom [ started ] net.lo[ started ] termencoding [ started ] swap [ started ] keymaps [ started ] hostname [ started ] procfs[ started ] Runlevel: shutdown killprocs [ stopped ] savecache [ stopped ] mount-ro [ stopped ] Dynamic Runlevel: hotplugged Dynamic Runlevel: needed sysfs [ started ] Dynamic Runlevel: manual Output from rc-update show: bootmisc | boot dbus | default devfs | sysinit dmesg | sysinit fsck | boot
[gentoo-user] Init Scripts Not Starting
Hey list, A little while after I compiled Gnome and got things running, I lost the ability to add scripts to the default runlevel. I can run rc-update add xdm default, for example, and the xdm symlink will appear in /etc/runlevels/default, and that symlink will indeed point to /etc/init.d/xdm, but xdm will not start. Further to that, there's no evidence to indicate that RC is even trying to start it. No errors, no logs, no nothing. Same goes for virtualbox-guest-additions and sysklogd. I tried logging rc and got absolutely nowhere. There's nothing overt in dmesg either. The really fun part is these scripts function perfectly if I run them after boot. Since there's no evidence of this problem in any logs or during the startup process, I assume there is no problem and I am doing it wrong. Thoughts?
Re: [gentoo-user] I'm in a Pickle
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 11:08 AM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Holidays, Everyone, To lead into the problem I am experiencing, I will let you know about an issue I've been having with my desktop (writing this from my laptop). Every once in a while, when the screensaver kicks in and then, the monitor goes on power save mode (something inherent to the monitor), the screen locks (I have not set it to do this) and the only way, I can get the computer going again is to reboot it by holding down the power button. This is annoying, but has not caused an issue until today. Today, I was doing a world update and the screen locked - I still had my KDE desktop up, but couldn't open a window to kill any processes or anything. So, I held the power button to cause a reboot. The computer booted okay and gave me my login screen, but neither the keyboard nor the mouse work. Any ideas? Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org When the screen locks, is it the whole computer? Can you do a CTRL+F7 and get to a console? As to your current predicament, I would give a livecd a try and see if the keyboard and mouse work in that. What I'm driving at here is that your problem may be hardware-related.
[gentoo-user] Troubleshooting the Virtualbox init script
Hey list, I noticed a little while ago that virtualbox-bin came with an init script and decided to try it out. Trouble is, the script starts a virtualbox VM just fine, it just can't stop one. Check out /etc/conf.d/virtualbox.my-vm: # Username to start vbox as, must be part of vboxusers group. VM_USER=dcowsill # Virtual Machine Name VM_NAME=my-vm # Shutdown Method: pause|resume|reset|poweroff|savestate|acpipowerbutton|acpisleepbutton VM_SHUTDOWN=savestate # Nice Priority: -20 (most favorable scheduling) to 19 (least favorable) VM_NICE=-10 # Specified the path explicitly... VBOXPATH=/usr/bin:/opt/bin The only trouble I had with the arrangement was that I had to explicitly specify the path for virtualbox to actually work. I thought this was silly, but it resulted in a (semi) working script, so whatever. Of course, I have a similarly named file linked to /etc/init.d/virtualbox where necessary. When this script is run, the virtual machine starts fine, but when the script is stopped, the script hangs indefinitely and prints dots to the screen, presumably as it waits for my virtual machine to savestate. So, any tips? Cursory googling didn't reveal anything terribly applicable, so I turn to you fine fellows. Thanks, DC
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote: On 04/20/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Cowsill wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com mailto:mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well. I'm at a loss! You can try introducing trolls to fight the gremlins. If the smell gets too strong, orcs will keep the trolls in check. Gold starts disappearing? Dragons should do the trick. When you run out of princesses... try memtest. Why I love this list in one thread. Anyway, just an update on the situation. As far as I can tell, this 'you have no world file' error only shows up when i'm doing a --depclean. Also, it is intermittent. Right now, -pcv works just fine and reports the correct number of packages to be removed (zero). I'm not sure what breaks this, or if it will be broken in the future. At this point, I'm not terribly worried about the whole thing, but I am rather curious. Thanks guys, D
[gentoo-user] You have no world file
Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Thanks guys, D
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well. I'm at a loss!
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.comwrote: On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote: Hi list, I've been having a strange issue every so often. I'll do a world update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages and suchlike. I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will get the following: !!! You have no world file. !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation. Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages and I thank FSM I added -p. So! Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful. What's the story? Gremlins? Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere? Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage For the sake of brevity, here's emerge --info Portage 2.1.9.42 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.11.3-r0, 2.6.36-gentoo-r8 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.36-gentoo-r8-i686-Pentium-R-_Dual-Core_CPU_E5200_@ _2.50GHz-with-gentoo-1.12.14 Timestamp of tree: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:00:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9 dev-lang/python: 2.6.6-r2, 2.7.1-r1, 3.1.3-r1 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r9 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.1-r2 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1 sys-apps/sandbox:2.4 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.65-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.5 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10 sys-devel/make: 3.81-r2 sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.36.1 virtual/os-headers: 0 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -@EULA PUEL CBUILD=i486-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /var/bind CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache distlocks fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch FFLAGS= GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo; LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed LINGUAS=en PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/ PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise /usr/local/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=acl apache2 berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cxx dri fortran gdbm gpm iconv jpeg ldap modules mudflap ncurses nfsv3 nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl php png pppd python readline session ssl sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xml xorg zlib ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic auth_digest authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation proxy proxy_ajp proxy_balancer proxy_connect proxy_http rewrite setenvif so speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias CAMERAS=ptp2 COLLECTD_PLUGINS=df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog ELIBC=glibc GPSD_PROTOCOLS=ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=en PHP_TARGETS=php5-3 RUBY_TARGETS=ruby18 USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev glint intel mach64 mga neomagic nouveau nv r128 radeon savage sis tdfx trident vesa via vmware dummy v4l XTABLES_ADDONS=quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options
Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Daniel Wagener st...@gmx.net wrote: Have you ever looked at the size world or maybe even into it? World file contains a list of the packages I've installed. Nothing new there. It's about 1.5kb in size.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with new install
On 15/10/2010 10:47 AM, Mike Diehl wrote: On Friday 15 October 2010 11:40:34 am Florian Philipp wrote: Instead of your brute-force yes to all approach, newer kernels also support `make localyesconfig` which takes all modules currently used in the running kernel and compiles them into the new kernel. It is very helpful when you already have a good but generic kernel like the one on your live CD. Oh now this is cool. Thank you. I'll try this, also. I agree, that is pretty cool! My two cents: Don't discount the possibility of hardware failure. Is the device new, or old? Have you kept an eye on the SMART attributes of the device? Cheers, D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: One hard drive much slower for some reason.
You could still be looking at a hardware failure situation here. I have seen hard drives with absolutely perfect SMART attributes pass all the tests but still show the classic signs of a hard drive beginning to fail. A significant slowdown is one of those signs. What I would suggest is that you find some way to observe the hard drive over a long period of time at considerable load. If there is a problem, eventually it will show up in the SMART attributes. It's not an ideal solution, and your problem may not be hardware failure, but it would be a good idea to rule that out before pursuing any other diagnostic methodologies.
Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate identical Hard Disk
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: With only 2 disks I personally think you're on the right path. With 3 disks I'm personally planning on RAID1 using 3 copies. ... My comment about RAID was that I am learning the hard (alas expensive) way that not all disks can actually do RAID, at least not Linux software RAID, and really be usable. From what I understand of software RAID in linux, it works on block devices, not disks. This means if some endeavoring soul was brave enough to RAID even partitions on a device, it would work as normal. Perhaps you mean that not all properly functioning disks can do RAID? What sort of trouble are you running into? I've successfully deployed both RAID1 and RAID5 on my home media server for quite some time now. While the initial time investment in reading documentation was considerable, since that time I've had no cause for trouble. I keep smartmontools looking at the array member disks and regularly read through monthly smart reports of my drives. Also, if you have three disks, why not go for RAID5? It is much quicker and I believe you'll end up with more space. It is a bit of a pain to get mdadm to convert your RAID1 to a RAID5, but it is doable. DC
Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM, ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com wrote: If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC. This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su. Wondering what is going on. Thanks. Kind of curious about this myself. It has just been a minor annoyance to me for the last couple of years, but it seems to show up only when logged onto root.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine if a NIC is playing gigabit?
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi there, Yesterday I reseated the network cable between my server cupboard and my desk, and it now lights up on the switch by my desk as gigabit. But a file-transfer today is slower than I might have hoped. I'm not ruling out the cable, because it's pretty beat up (but the switch *is* lighting up as 1000), but how do I determine, please, that the Linux server at the other end is recognising the NIC and negotiating as gigabit speeds? The hard-drives on the server are using an older PCI SATA card, and the NIC is also PCI. But I would have expected it to be a bit faster than 100Mbps. Any estimates over what kind of speed I should be seeing for large file-transfers over Samba? Wildly ball-park is fine - I wouldn't expect a 10x speed increase, but maybe 2x or 3x - 4x would be great! I'll be testing between my Macs (both on the desktop switch, ruling out both the Linux box and the suspicious cable) later today, I'd just like some ideas of where I should be starting from. Right now I'm seeing 10 gigs of .mp4 files (1gb - 2gb per video file) taking about an hour - that's about what I'd expect from old 100Mbps networking, not this shiny new stuff. I'm not seeing any difference commenting uncommenting aio read size = 1, aio write size = 1 (separate lines) from /etc/samba/smb.conf and then running `/etc/init.d/samba reload`, but maybe I shouldn't expect that to make any difference on an existing transfer. I just don't want to interfere with this right now - I just want to copy as much as possible on to my laptop before I go out, and I'll take a look at this performance issue when I get home. Thanks in advance for any suggestions or pointers, Stroller. In all likelihood, its your hard disk slowing down the network transfer, and not the cabling. Generally speaking, if the hardware says gigabit, than you've got gigabit.
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS Boot
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Neil Walker n...@ep.mine.nu wrote: Mikie wrote: I am converting an Ubuntu 9.10 to NFS boot by coping files to the NFS root. My question is: Would it be better to create a local hard drive swap and file system for certain root dir? Should Tmp be local rather than on the NFS root? Had you ever thought of asking this on an Ubuntu list rather than a Gentoo one? Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com If I had a difficult linux question that needed answering, I'd probably turn to you fine folks before any Ubuntu forum ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any more). I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo. How would you take it from there? I'm looking for something quick and easy. My data isn't too sensitive, but I'd like to do some type of wiping so it isn't all just sitting there with a deleted flag or however that works. - Grant Hiren's Bootcd contains a bunch of useful tools for the computer professional, and a few that will help you in your disk wipery. It also comes in a convenient USB image. http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5090985/Hirens_Boot_USB_10.0
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating RAID: Degraded RAID5 from RAID1?
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:30 AM, andrey larin ubergit...@yandex.ru wrote: let suppose sda and sdb is raid 1 md1 and new sdc remove sdb from raid mdadm /dev/md1 -f /dev/sdb mdadm /dev/md1 -r /dev/sdb then create degraded raid 5 don't forget md1 is still running mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level 5 -n 3 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc missing then copy all data from md1 to md2 fix /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.conf destroy md1 and add sda to md2 Excellent. All I need to know is that there is indeed a mechanism for doing this and that I am not crazy. Man pages should fill in the rest. Thanks for your help, Andrey
Re: [gentoo-user] Phonon concurrent access on device
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Saturday 28 November 2009 13:58:42 Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I recently updated one of my systems to KDE4. Now I have the problem that only one application can access the audio output at a time. If I start a second app (for example playing a video with Kaffeine while Amarok runs but is idle) the second application reports that the device does not work. Is this normal behavior? How can I fix it? Maybe it's an issue with ALSA but before I investigate this option, I'd like to hear a works for me from other users. Works for me. Also works for most other folks, as no-one else is complaining. What are your relevant configs? Are you in any way using (god forbid...) arts? esd? pulseaudio? Any sound daemon other than ALSA? Nah, I think ALSA is just misconfigured and doesn't enable HW/SW mixing. I'll look into it and come back if I don't find it on my own. Thanks so far! When I was first messing around with Linux, I think I was using Mandrake (back when it was called Mandrake) and this issue crept up on me. Back then, if I understand correctly, it was accepted behaviour for hardware to be accessible by one program at a time. There was a fix back then that involved running some sort of daemon, but its been a while since I messed with KDE or Mandrake.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine which mobo without opening case
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: How can I determine the motherboard make and model? I mean without opening the case. Various hardware reporting tools such as uhinv and syscriptor do not give that information (far as I can tell). In fact syscriptor cannot even report pci info and gives the message `cannot open /proc/pci' (not surprising since /proc/pci does not exist) Determining make and model is somewhat difficult to do from software. I know of a very good windows utility that will help you out called SIW. See the link below. As far as linux utilities to read that information, I have limited experience. The problem is that SIW only reports what the manufacturers decide to jot down in their hardware. That means if the manufacturer doesn't want you to know, you probably won't. As a matter of curiosity, why can't you open the case? Regards, D http://www.gtopala.com/
[gentoo-user] Migrating RAID: Degraded RAID5 from RAID1?
Hello list, Currently I have two terabyte hard disks in a RAID1 configuration using software RAID. What I'd like to do is add a third disk and arrive at the end with a RAID5 array. The problem is I have limited disk space and not enough room to back up all of the data on the array in its current form. What I'd like to know is if it is possible to use two disks to make a degraded RAID5 array, move the data onto it from one of the mirror disks, and then add the mirrored disk into the new array? Thanks, D
Re: [gentoo-user] Slow samba transfers from gentoo to gentoo, any way to improve them?
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:56 AM, App Des app4...@gmail.com wrote: I have a gentoo server running stable fully updated, and I share a folder with samba on a gigabit network. The client dual boots Gentoo (stable again) and Windows 7. Under windows 7, getting a file from the server achieves around 70MB/s It is quite possible that Windows 7 is mis-reporting the transfer speed. To put it in perspective, I would expect around 70-90MB/s from a direct SATA2 connection to a hard disk, so to hear that network transfers on gigabit are going around that speed makes me scratch my head (and a little jealous). I can usually expect transfers of around 30-40MB/s from my server. Maybe I'm just used to mediocrity?
Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..
Arthur D. wrote: Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you consider to be stupid what I gonna say. Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But... There're ones who prefer primitive hardcoding over giving the enduser to choose. There're defaults set by someone, that you should respect. Because... Just because he wants so. Because you are nothing. Just another ungrateful user... An example? The package SUDO. It is one of the most mandatory packages in distro. But it totally ignores the enduser's favor in editing. It just hardcodes what the ebuild's maintainer decided. Once and forever. Do you want to remove nano from your system? DON'T DO THAT! Or you gonna get some issues, you shouldn't get, if the things work as expected. I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I considered it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am a VIM fan. And here the troubles begin... Run sudo visudo and you get this: ~ $ sudo visudo visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/nano) ~ $ env | grep -i edit EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim What a surprise! Hm... Possibly I did something wrong when setting my system, that terminates me with this error?.. So I was forced to spend my time analysing what is wrong with the package and how to fix that. Because I remember it was working as expected in my previous LFS (linuxfromscratch) system. My quests leaded me to the ebuild of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there: --with-editor=/bin/nano Stop. I don't use nano. I even don't have it! But the ebuild doesn't check if nano is installed. No care. It was just like said to me: Hey, you are just a stupid moron! Who removes default editor? He-he... I asked the ebuild maintainer to fix this behaviour. And what did he say? You should read manual page of sudo in order to make it work as expected. To make it respect your preferences. And I don't care what editor you prefer. Nano is Gentoo default editor!!! You understand? Stop boring me! I will not change anything! Ha-ha... Actually it was said in other words but the idea is same. Looks like the principle it just works is not for Gentoo users. If you don't agree with ignoring of your preferences, please vote for this bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/votes.cgi?action=show_userbug_id=286017#vote_286017 P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not override our favourites. Thank you. -- Best regards, Spinal This behavior is controlled by the EDITOR environmental variable, which you should change in /etc/rc.conf. It's one of the first things I change when I tackle a new build. The reason why the default is what it is is a good one: the default agrees with the rest of the initial Gentoo environment when you first build it. Luckily for you, everything in Gentoo is very easy to change. Also, one should always pose ones queries in the form of a question instead of an attack. And for the love of God, don't feed the devs! DC signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] [OT] PGP User Groups?
Hello list, I've noticed that with linux geekery comes the pursuit of PGP-based email privacy. A great many frequent posters to this illustrious list boast PGP keypairs and frequently sign their correspondences. Some of you even have photo ID's of yourselves in your public keys! (Hello Neil!) Unfortunately, like many of you, I am not an international spy and don't have much to protect with this awesome encryption technology. This leads me to wonder if anyone has ever heard of any PGP user groups that frequently employ encryption and do key signing and the like? Thanks guys! DC signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..
Arthur D. wrote: The first option works fine, but ... how much time should the user spend to get things just work as expected? Plainly put, Gentoo isn't an easy-to-use distro. If it were, I don't think I would be using it, paradoxically enough. If spending a little time learning about and playing with the config files is outside of the purview of what you consider to be a functional distro, then perhaps you should look elsewhere. DC signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I know...
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:26 AM, David Juhlcommo_p...@yahoo.com wrote: How do I know I am actually subscribed to a list. I sent a email to the second address asking for verification. Thanks, Dave Is easy. If you can see this email, you are subscribed. Ta! Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring data usage
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using ifconfig to monitor how much data I'm using, but it seems
pretty high. Is there a simple way to see why I'm using so much data?
$ eix ^ntop
[I] net-analyzer/ntop
Available versions: 3.3.9-r2 ~3.3.10-r1 {ipv6 ssl tcpd}
Installed versions: 3.3.9-r2(14:11:46 06/25/09)(ssl tcpd -ipv6)
Homepage: http://www.ntop.org/ntop.html
Description: Network traffic analyzer with web interface
$
Also iftop and lsof with some clever regex-ing if you want to see what
program
drives the connection.
Thank you, iftop is great:
iftop -i ppp0 -P
- Grant
I use vnstat. You can get PHP frontends for vnstat that make it nice
and groovy as well.
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
Hello again list, After having tried every suggested method of scrolling or pausing kernel output and failing, I decided to mess about with the kernel config a little more and eventually came out ahead. I am happy to report no kernel panics and I thank everyone for their contribution. D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
Hello list, I've been trying to get to the bottom of my recent troubles with my IDE controller working with the 2.6.28 kernel. Now, linux never boots without a kernel panic, so dmesg never gets logged... Is there any way to have the kernel dump the boot log somewhere? I'd settle for scrolling up, really. Thanks, Dan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
James Ausmus wrote: If you have a serial port, you can enable serial console in the kernel config, and boot with a console=ttyS0 kernel parameter, to see all the output on a serially attached (via null modem cable or adapter) computer... -James Hey, thanks for the advice. Would that allow me to scroll the output? Seeing the output isn't the problem, its just that the relevant error messages scroll away too quickly. Thanks, D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Capture dmesg output on boot?
Adam Carter wrote: Have you tried shift+PgUp ? I have no idea if it will work in that circumtance... Remember that depending how you setup the kernel the IDE devices could be hdX or sdX. Thanks, Yes, I've tried shift+pgUp and it doesn't appear to work. And yes, I've verified that my root argument is the proper notation. D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com wrote: I would still think its a problema. People would install Gentoo, get a functional system, not read the handbook, and flood the forums and this mailing list with already answered and handbook questions. Daniel da Veiga I think the minute you start looking at Gentoo or the installation process as a sort of 'proving ground' for advanced users, you lose your objectivity in a discussion like this. The bottom line is that if a user is willing, he will learn and prosper with Gentoo, installer or no installer.
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? - Grant Yeah, Gentoo can be a big O/S if you let it. I recently installed Gentoo on an eee 701 with 512M RAM and the 8 GB SSD. I decided to use the minimal USE flag with a few exceptions. This keeps the size of X11 down and affects a few other packages in that vein. Also, I used XFCE in place of Gnome. You can still have Gnome apps on it (if you are willing to commit the extra disk space) and the memory foot print is much smaller. I used ccache to help out with compile times, so even on the 500MHz processor, it still took less than a day to slap X11 together. Have a specific idea in mind for what you want the computer to be used for. My eee does three or four things really well and that's it. Some may say it's archaic, but I thought it was a great learning experience. That said, installing Gentoo on an eee 701 was such an incredible pain in the ass... Not for the faint of heart. D
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing Lists
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/16 Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Kaushal Shriyan kaushalshri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi is there a mailing lists to discuss about perl or python or bash scripting language ? Thanks and Regards Kaushal http://lmgtfy.com/?q=perl+mailing+list http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+mailing+list As far as I can tell, there is no Bash mailing list apart from bug-bash. You'll probably get flamed if you post questions there. Despite the name, this list is for general Bash questions too. Ah, thank you for clarifying. D
Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Andrei Hanganu ahang...@bitdefender.com wrote: helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different modes/anjuta/kdevelop/codeblocks/eclipse/netbeans ... every single one of them has at least one drawback. In short words, i am looking for an ide that can do this: - syntax highlighting - autocomplete (on the fly, not on demand, and maybe smart? - identify structures/classes ) - concurrent editing of multiple files (splitting) - tabs or buffer list - file browser - project manager - symbol list/browser current editing buffer - regex search/replace - flexible build options that include scons, not just makefile - code folding (with detection of blocks) - lightweight/ergonomic interface (i dislike space being occupied by the bar that displays the line numbers, with a padding of 10px for example) i don't desire gdb or valgrind integration, but would be a + does anyone know the answer to this ultimate question? I keep comparing different editors with the microsoft's visual studio, that is not by far as powerful as emacs but it just plain and simple does the job. They will reach a milestone when the brackets matching will actually work, but despite small inconveniences, i find it to be very close to what i am looking for. kdevelop also seemed very close to what i wanted, but somehow the fonts or the dpi make it very crowded, i get very little space for the code. On the other hand netbeans is a good example of how the interface should be arranged, but java driven ide tends to stop being able to respond in tolerable time. i am on the edge of despair, and i am willing to try even a commercial solution. Anyone had some very positive experience with a specific ide? thanks, Andrei The problem is you've named pretty much every IDE in use by software developers today, with the possible exception of Visual Studio which is probably not applicable anyways. Now don't take this the wrong way, because I'm not at all trying to be condescending, but have you considered contributing your coding talent to Eclipse or CodeBlocks to make those products better suit your needs? Your problem is one faced by developers every day, but it seems like you're still thinking in a closed frame of mind. If you don't like it, change it! Cheers, D
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing Lists
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Kaushal Shriyan kaushalshri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi is there a mailing lists to discuss about perl or python or bash scripting language ? Thanks and Regards Kaushal http://lmgtfy.com/?q=perl+mailing+list http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+mailing+list As far as I can tell, there is no Bash mailing list apart from bug-bash. You'll probably get flamed if you post questions there.
Re: [gentoo-user] Locking down a wireless network
On 1/29/09, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My Gentoo router's wireless network is encrypted via WPA and doesn't DHCP. I'd like to take this a step further in case my WPA key gets hacked. Can I issue only certain IPs to certain MAC addresses? Does WPA2 require hardware support? - Grant What you're looking for is called 'MAC address filtering' and I imagine it is very doable. Having never done it before myself (with a Gentoo router) the best I can do is point you at Google and wish you the best of luck. It's been a little while since I worried about my WPA2 wireless getting hacked. Apparently, a vulnerability in TKIP was recently discovered that made WPA2 networks using that encryption less secure. It would still take a lot of doing on the attacking party's end to do it though. Have you considered setting up WPA2 Enterprise, with the RADIUS server and whatnot? D
Re: [gentoo-user] motherboard died?
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:32 AM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi all, A few weeks ago there was a discussion about audio interference when running 3d applications. Well mine kept getting worse (it didn't to it at all a month ago) until I got fed up. I opened the side and (gently!) moved some of the power cables away from the data cables to see if that was a cause of interference. Well I did manage to reduce the noise by moving cables around but a couple of minutes later the machine bombed out with a big oops that I can't produce now. I didn't think it was a big problem, I thought I had just pulled an hdd cable a bit too hard or something. Now however, the machine won't post or even power up. It is an Asus Crosshair SKT AM2 nForce 590 SLI DDR2 which has a debug display on the back panel. As soon as you turn on the power to the motherboard, it displays CPU INIT which is the very first stage. Now trying to turn on the machine yields absolutely nothing, it just doesn't do a thing. I have removed all additional devices, just leaving 1 hdd. I've also reseated the CPU, RAM and all cables. I can't see how I could have properly killed some hardware just by moving a cable an inch to one side. If anyone has any ideas I'd be so grateful, I really don't want to have to return parts, I should be working on stuff right now :( Thanks Matt Hi Matt, My first guess would be that the audio interference would be a symptom of a bigger problem with the hardware. It is possible that static discharge or a loose connection could manifest these symptoms as well. I would start by verifying that everything is properly and securely plugged into the motherboard. After that, make a complete visual inspection of the board looking for capacitors that are bubbling or distorting outwards on the top (capacitors are the cylindrical components on the board, usually with two leads anchoring it to the PCB). From there, you should find some way of testing your power supply. Either find another machine into which you can plug the PSU to see if it posts the board, or take it to your local computer repair shop, as they should have a device to test it. If your power supply tests alright, begin removing components from the board to see if you can get it to post. Remove PCI cards, sticks of RAM, IDE/SATA connectors, front panel and USB connectors. Everything. If you reach the end of this diagnostic process without a single post, chances are your board is FUBAR and you should replace it. Cheers, D
Re: [gentoo-user] motherboard died?
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Thanks for the detailed information. I have some news, but it requires me to put on my embarrassed face. No need to be embarrassed! I work in the repair industry and I can't tell you how many times I've run into the same thing. The worst is when the button is stuck or there's a short in the block and you just can't figure out why it'll only stay on for a half second. I've given up trying to deal with Asus. Every technical support situation I've been in with them makes me want to visit unreasonable harm on cute fuzzy things. However, I've gotta say they do make some decent hardware. Good luck, D
Re: [gentoo-user] update world drives me nuts
mv /etc/portage/package.mask /etc/portage/package.mask.back emerge -uDNp world Helmut Jarausch wrote: This doesn't contain a mask but /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask contains =app-admin/system-tools-backends-2 So, is this a bug? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is gentoo-portage and gentoo-wiki offline?
Looks like they're both down for me too. For future reference, this site is extraordinarily useful... http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ KH wrote: Hi, I cannot reach: http://gentoo-portage.com/ http://gentoo-wiki.com Are those websites off the air right now? Does anybody know when they will be back? Are there any substitutes to those web pages? I still miss packages.gentoo.org as it used to be :-( see also: http://packages.larrythecow.org/ kh signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is an Intel motherboard RAID better or worse than software RAID?
Hi guys, I've had some experience in the past with software (BIOS) RAID. Obviously there would be a big performance difference with hardware vs BIOS RAID. Has anyone done any benchmarks to the effect of BIOS vs linux kernel RAID? Thanks, D Wolfgang Liebich wrote: Hi, I'm in the process of setting up a new private computer. I've bought one with two drives b/c I wanted to setup a RAID system - RAID1 for important partitions, RAID0 for scratch files maybe. Additionally I would like to use LVM2 --- on my work PC I've grown to like the flexibility of that. The Intel DQ35JO motherboard now supports some kind of mobo based RAID. Is it better to use this HW raid, or to ignore that and use only the linux kernel's software RAID. Additionally the LVM2 utilities seem to have limited mirroring/striping capabilities of their own - I only want to use RAID levels 0 and 1 anyways -- would LVM's methods be better here? Inquiring mind wants to know! - Wolfgang Liebich signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Продажа квартир.Скидки становятся меньше...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Asus Eee Gentoo install - no CD drive
It is possible to get a Gentoo LiveCD running happily on a USB flash drive. I'm currently running Ubuntu eee on my 701, but before that I attempted a Gentoo install on it. It is nothing short of the biggest pain in the butt I could have imagined. But if you like a challenge... D
Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring network bandwidth utilization
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Not too long ago, I set up a router powered by Gentoo Linux and old computer hardware. So far, it has worked like a charm and I am quite pleased with my accomplishment. I am quite active in various BitTorrent communities, however my ISP doesn't take kindly to me eating all their precious bandwidth. Up until now, I have been using a cheap little windows utility to monitor monthly bandwidth and warn me if I go above my ISP's maximum. However, this has become inaccurate due to my use of Windows network shares. This machine now routinely records upload bandwidth in excess of 300 gigabytes per month, however I do not know which part of that is actually going to the interwebs. My question is this: is there a utility in Portage that you could recommend that would monitor bandwidth on a specific network interface, send me monthly reports via email and warn me if I am using too much bandwidth? I don't know about email reports, but have you check out this week's GMN? : http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gmn/20080526-newsletter.xml Thanks a bunch -- Dan Cowsill -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list That would probably do it! Thanks a million -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Monitoring network bandwidth utilization
Hi, Not too long ago, I set up a router powered by Gentoo Linux and old computer hardware. So far, it has worked like a charm and I am quite pleased with my accomplishment. I am quite active in various BitTorrent communities, however my ISP doesn't take kindly to me eating all their precious bandwidth. Up until now, I have been using a cheap little windows utility to monitor monthly bandwidth and warn me if I go above my ISP's maximum. However, this has become inaccurate due to my use of Windows network shares. This machine now routinely records upload bandwidth in excess of 300 gigabytes per month, however I do not know which part of that is actually going to the interwebs. My question is this: is there a utility in Portage that you could recommend that would monitor bandwidth on a specific network interface, send me monthly reports via email and warn me if I am using too much bandwidth? Thanks a bunch -- Dan Cowsill -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Overclocked CPU killed motherboard and CD?
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received my RMAed motherboard back from MSI today, and although it powered right on, the BIOS wouldn't post unless I disconnected the CDROM drive and used a different CPU. I had been overclocking an AMD64 X2 but luckily I had a Sempron to test with. Does this sound like a case of an overclocked CPU burning out and taking a couple of devices with it, or is it more likely that the motherboard died and took a couple devices with it, or something else? IIRC, most RMA'd hardware isn't 'repaired' in the technical sense. You're typically given a new motherboard. In my experience, overclocking typically doesn't damage unrelated components. The CPU is likely the only problem with your rig, unfortunately. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] BASIC compilers/Interpreters?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any BASIC compilers/Interpreters in Gentoo? Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Dude. Google. First hit. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:48:54 -0400, Hal Martin wrote: You cannot use tar unless you create an exclude file, as it will copy the contents of /dev and /sys, which means the entire contents of RAM, and anything that is currently being generated by your devices will be copied as well. Personally, I would use either tar or rsync to do this, however, in saying that, I have never actually done this with a live system. This is the tar command I use for copying inactive systems, and it works quite well. (cd /mnt/source; tar cfpl - .) | (cd /mnt/dest; tar xfp -) I assume you could just generate an exclude file, and include that in the first command You don't need an exclude file to avoid /dev and /sys because they are on separate filesystems, so your use of -l takes care of this. Rsync may work, or it may complain that files have changed between building the list and copying them and you'd need to use -x to do the same as -l with tar. Either way, shut down as many services as possible during the copy, particularly anything that uses databases. -- Neil Bothwick If you got the words it does not mean you got the knowledge. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I had read that if you don't copy the files in /dev, udev won't mount properly on the machine you're cloning to and all hell will break lose. Also, iirc, I believe I tarred a running machine (including /dev, excluding /sys) and the clone was successful. Any thoughts? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:45:49 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I had read that if you don't copy the files in /dev, udev won't mount properly on the machine you're cloning to and all hell will break lose. There are two files you need in the dev directory of the root filesystem, console and null. Create those, or bind mount the root directory as a;ready suggested. Also, iirc, I believe I tarred a running machine (including /dev, excluding /sys) and the clone was successful. There's no reason why it wouldn't be, but you're wasting a bunch of pace and inodes on your root filesystem by putting a load of stuff in /dev that is then hidden when udev starts. -- Neil Bothwick Snacktrek, n.: The peculiar habit, when searching for a snack, of constantly returning to the refrigerator in hopes that something new will have materialized. Oooh I see I see. Thanks! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo router: Conntrack table full
Hi folks, Today I had some really serious problems with my Gentoo router. I could ping it, and all the network connections were in place and functional, but no outside access. I looked into it and found that the syslog was flooded with this: Mar 22 21:25:55 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: printk: 11 messages suppressed. Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. Mar 22 21:26:05 localhost kernel: printk: 16 messages suppressed. These messages spanned a full 20 hours of the log. I understand that conntrack is the connection tracking system that iptables uses. I also understand that its maximum is something on the order of 65000 simultaneous connections. For a simple home network, I think we can agree that I would probably never approach this number of connections with normal use. So my question is this: what could have caused the router's connection tracker to overflow? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo router: Conntrack table full
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Today I had some really serious problems with my Gentoo router. I could ping it, and all the network connections were in place and functional, but no outside access. I looked into it and found that the syslog was flooded with this: Mar 22 21:25:55 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: printk: 11 messages suppressed. Mar 22 21:26:00 localhost kernel: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. Mar 22 21:26:05 localhost kernel: printk: 16 messages suppressed. These messages spanned a full 20 hours of the log. I understand that conntrack is the connection tracking system that iptables uses. I also understand that its maximum is something on the order of 65000 simultaneous connections. For a simple home network, I think we can agree that I would probably never approach this number of connections with normal use. So my question is this: what could have caused the router's connection tracker to overflow? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list What type of 'net services do you run between your home network and the outside? Is there a possibility that someone out have put a denial of service attack on you? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I have SSH to a server, two open ports for bit torrent connections and a few ranges for DCC transfers from irc. The possibility of a DoS attack is pretty real, I imagine. Is there any way I could be sure? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] External hard disk doesn't mount on boot
Right, so I have an external USB hard drive always hooked up to my machine. I've a listing in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. Unfortunately, the drive does not boot because localmount can't find /dev/sda1. Now, after the boot process I can find /dev/sda1 and mount the drive just fine, leading me to believe that localmount tries to mount the drive without populating /dev with USB devices. How could I resolve this? Thanks -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] External hard disk doesn't mount on boot
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 March 2008, Dan Cowsill wrote: Right, so I have an external USB hard drive always hooked up to my machine. I've a listing in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. Unfortunately, the drive does not boot because localmount can't find /dev/sda1. Now, after the boot process I can find /dev/sda1 and mount the drive just fine, leading me to believe that localmount tries to mount the drive without populating /dev with USB devices. How could I resolve this? The canonical way is of course to use udev to run a mount script as soon as the usb drive's device is created. This is hard and requires much googling. The hackish, kludgy, totally not recommended method that always works is to put a call to 'mount -a' in /etc/local.d/local.start :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I'll look into the canonical and implement the hackish. Thanks for the help, I'll report back when I can. Cheers -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] External hard disk doesn't mount on boot
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 March 2008, Dan Cowsill wrote: Right, so I have an external USB hard drive always hooked up to my machine. I've a listing in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. Unfortunately, the drive does not boot because localmount can't find /dev/sda1. Now, after the boot process I can find /dev/sda1 and mount the drive just fine, leading me to believe that localmount tries to mount the drive without populating /dev with USB devices. How could I resolve this? The canonical way is of course to use udev to run a mount script as soon as the usb drive's device is created. This is hard and requires much googling. The hackish, kludgy, totally not recommended method that always works is to put a call to 'mount -a' in /etc/local.d/local.start :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list http://gentoo-wiki.com/UDEV Am I on the right track here? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] External hard disk doesn't mount on boot
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 March 2008, Dan Cowsill wrote: Right, so I have an external USB hard drive always hooked up to my machine. I've a listing in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. Unfortunately, the drive does not boot because localmount can't find /dev/sda1. Now, after the boot process I can find /dev/sda1 and mount the drive just fine, leading me to believe that localmount tries to mount the drive without populating /dev with USB devices. How could I resolve this? The canonical way is of course to use udev to run a mount script as soon as the usb drive's device is created. This is hard and requires much googling. The hackish, kludgy, totally not recommended method that always works is to put a call to 'mount -a' in /etc/local.d/local.start :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Okay, so I wrote a new rule into rules.d that goes like this: KERNEL==sda, RUN+=/bin/mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/dcowsill/usb Now, this works (sort of). If I were to run udevstart, udev would happily execute mount on the usb drive and all would be well. If the system is restarted or the device is plugged in, no joy. So why is this only executing when I use udevstart? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] External hard disk doesn't mount on boot
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 March 2008, Dan Cowsill wrote: Right, so I have an external USB hard drive always hooked up to my machine. I've a listing in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. Unfortunately, the drive does not boot because localmount can't find /dev/sda1. Now, after the boot process I can find /dev/sda1 and mount the drive just fine, leading me to believe that localmount tries to mount the drive without populating /dev with USB devices. How could I resolve this? The canonical way is of course to use udev to run a mount script as soon as the usb drive's device is created. This is hard and requires much googling. The hackish, kludgy, totally not recommended method that always works is to put a call to 'mount -a' in /etc/local.d/local.start :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Okay, so I wrote a new rule into rules.d that goes like this: KERNEL==sda, RUN+=/bin/mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/dcowsill/usb Now, this works (sort of). If I were to run udevstart, udev would happily execute mount on the usb drive and all would be well. If the system is restarted or the device is plugged in, no joy. So why is this only executing when I use udevstart? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net Yeh, I wasn't being specific enough with my rule. This rule (revised) works perfectly: KERNEL==sda1, RUN+=/bin/mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/dcowsill/usb Thanks Alan, for putting me on the right track. Also, much appreciation goes to Greg Kroah-Hartman, who wrote udevtest! Cheers -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] External hard disk doesn't mount on boot
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 March 2008, Dan Cowsill wrote: Right, so I have an external USB hard drive always hooked up to my machine. I've a listing in /etc/fstab to mount it at boot. Unfortunately, the drive does not boot because localmount can't find /dev/sda1. Now, after the boot process I can find /dev/sda1 and mount the drive just fine, leading me to believe that localmount tries to mount the drive without populating /dev with USB devices. How could I resolve this? The canonical way is of course to use udev to run a mount script as soon as the usb drive's device is created. This is hard and requires much googling. The hackish, kludgy, totally not recommended method that always works is to put a call to 'mount -a' in /etc/local.d/local.start :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Okay, so I wrote a new rule into rules.d that goes like this: KERNEL==sda, RUN+=/bin/mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /home/dcowsill/usb Now, this works (sort of). If I were to run udevstart, udev would happily execute mount on the usb drive and all would be well. If the system is restarted or the device is plugged in, no joy. So why is this only executing when I use udevstart? Good work Dan. I'll save this thread for future reference. As someone who has used lots of external drives in the past you might want to do your mount by label or some sort of drive specific UUID and not by /dev/sda1. What can happen over time is that you'll add a second drive and because USB or 1394 often do device discovery order by which drive spins up first two identical drives will come up in random orders which switches your mounting around strangely. I've had good luck just mounting by label without using udev but I've wanted to figure this out. You've given me a nice start. thanks. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Yeh, I only opted for matching the kernel name of the device because the headless server I'm working on very likely will never encounter a new USB device. But the rule would be more robust. Glad I could help. Cheers -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] using torrent
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:00 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gavin Seddon ha scritto: Hi, I have a couple of dvd's as torrent files.Will someone explain how to create the dvd's since I have found noclear help on the www. I inst. ktorrent but it hs no help. Just open the torrent files with ktorrent (File - Open) and let the program download the torrents. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list After downloading your dvds with your bittorrent client of choice (I prefer Azureus, memory hog that it is), you will usually have to extract them. Typically, dvd images (isos) are compressed for better data integrity into between 40 and 70 rar files. You'd need the unrar utility (emerge unrar) to extract them. At that point, iirc, you should be able to run unrar -x first archive file and you'll get your iso. Now load it up into k3b or your burning program of choice and burn! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to do port-based routing?
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-03-03, Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to figure out how to do port-based routing. I found a HOWTO that does pretty much exactly what I'm trying to do: http://www.linuxhorizon.ro/iproute2.html However, it's using iptables, which I thought was deprecated, but there are iptables versions as recent at three months ago, so it still seems to be maintained. The above page has references to the Linux Advanced Routing Traffic Control site at www.lartc.org, but that site appears to be long-gone. What's the recommended interface for doing advanced routing stuff? There are many interfaces but they are all frontends to iptables. Personally I just did a lot of reading and built my firewall from scratch. I found shorewall and firestarter, but neither looked very useful to me: 1) They're both designed for configuring firewalls, and I'm not building a firewall machine. 2) Neither seemed to have any way to specify port-based routing. So it looks like plain iptables is the way to go. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I want another at RE-WRITE on my CEASAR visi.comSALAD!! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I hate to plug a non-gentoo distro, but if you're building yourself a linux firewall and you want to do so without rtfm'ing, smoothwall is the way to go. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed
On 10/25/07, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:00:14 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a gentoo ebuild, so I start here. For all I know, it was something that happened here. I agree with you there. Besides, I just upgraded to firefox-2.0.0.8 as well, and I have no such problems... although it was firefox-bin i686, I still feel relatively confident that it's not firefox's fault, at least not completely. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list That's what I get for posting drunk. My apologies for being belligerent! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge firefox 2.0.0.8 and now printing is hosed
On 10/24/07, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just emerged firefox 2.0.0.8 (I think it was 2.0.0.7 before), and now attempts to print a web page bring me to a skimpy little dialog with just two buttons: Cancel and OK. The OK button leads to an error dialog. So printing is now impossible. Fortunately, I have seamonkey, which is working just fine. But I'd like firefox to work too. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD Might want to bring this up with the firefox people, not the Gentoo people. But hey! How's your os workin these days? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] installation assistance
On 9/26/07, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 12:31 +0200, Pol wrote: I would pay for _in place_ assistance to install gentoo / kde on my laptop I am living in northern italy Since i have never compiled everything from scratch (as the gentoo user should do), assistance would save my time and offer the opportunity to learn something. Moreover i would like to fine tune my kde desktop, that is disappointing me, as heavy kubuntu desktop user. Any suggestions about available professionals or companies? thank you Pol I would be happy to do it. Do you cover travel expenses? -- Albert W. Hopkins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Ya, sign me up! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] EMERGE USE PHP additional options problem
On 9/5/07, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pablo Murillo wrote: USE= -X -gtk -gnome -kde -xpm -gpm -alsa -qt -java -ipv6 -berkdb -gdbm -pdo -pdo-external -posix -cgi -force-cgi-redirect cli apache2 ctype fastbuild ftp gd hash iconv mysql nls pcre pic reflection session simplexml soap sockets spl ssl sqlite tokenizer truetype xml xmlrpc xmlreader xmlwriter xsl zlib zip unicode imap snmp emerge -a php-5.1.4.ebuild Don't set all these USE flags on the command line. Set the ones you want to be valid for your whole system in /etc/make.conf. Set the ones that should be valid only for php in /etc/portage/package.use, by putting a line like 'dev-lang/php zip' in that file. Further, you can't use the word ebuild in an emerge command like that. Please show us the actual output of 'emerge -pv php'. Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list It looks like he's trying to emerge from an ebuild file directly. Also not a good idea. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant issues
On 8/27/07, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What pid does it get when you stop the process and start a new one; 5872 or is that only when you first start up? I had a problem similar to that a while ago but I haven't used my wireless card in ages... On 8/22/07, Daniel V. Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use wpa_supplicant with madwifi and everything works perfectly with one strange exception. At boot time, when net.ath0 tries to start, it complains that the address is still in use and doesn't start! I look at the process list and find wpa_supplicant is always running when I start. Interesting, also, is the fact that it is always running with the same pid (5872). I can stop the process and net.ath0 starts perfectly. I've checked over the configuration and all is well, and I've looked over the logs and nothing seems askew. Hell, I can't even find the error in the logs... This means, unfortunately, that I have nothing to present in the way of an error... I do remember that the error at boot has something to do with wpa_ctrl. I hope you fine fellows can piece something together with this or give me some documentation I might read. Thanks. No, it's always 5872. Before and after startup. Glad you could make it :D -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Thanks. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/20/07, Vladimir Rusinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/21/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Yes. But all hashes are works. May be this is not actually md5? -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения на базе Linux http://greenmice.info/ A possibility, but the point of hashing a password is that the hash will be the same each time, allowing one to compare a user submitted password to a securely stored one. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/20/07, Don Jerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/20/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. These are all password-recognizers, not md5 hash strings (ok, they are in part). The $1$ identifies a salt lead-in, the next part is the salt for your password (generated randomly) up to the next $, then the hash of your password + salt (to the end of the string). Given the secret salt, Grub (or anything else using this method) can combine it with the candidate password and check the hash. But since the salt is random you get a different hash every time. This behavior is desirable in case you have two or more password recognizers in the same config file (or in files accessable to the same untrusted reader). It prevents identical passwords from being detected (as you demonstrated) by reading the recognizer strings. So no, not broken, just not what you expected. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Right, not what I expected to be sure. I would like to know how they did that, though! Thanks for enlightening me, Dan -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox and Synaptics mousepad
I use an Acer laptop with a synaptics mouse pad. Now, the mousepad scrolls left and right when you drag across the bottom portion of it. However, in firefox it controls the back and forward buttons. This has the net effect of moving be back two or three pages if I slip. What I was wondering is if there is some sort of firefox setting I can change to disable that function? Thanks, -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gnome fails except for root
On 8/14/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 14 Aug 2007 10:49:56 -0400 Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting development: I removed my user from the system and deleted his home folder. After that, I made the user again and tried logging in. I got a whole bunch of configuration errors... But I don't understand how this could be. I created ANOTHER user with a different name and logged in... perfectly. Everything seems to work with this user, and nothing seems to work with my user. Are user-based settings stored in some other place? I created a new user testgot with the same uid as gottlieb and it works. There must be something in my config (and yours) that is bad for the old user. I can balance my checkbook with the new user so the panic is gone, but something needs to be fixed somewhere. allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Well, that's interesting because my test user has a different uid than my original... -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gnome fails except for root
On 8/13/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated to the new gnome. After battling the expat problem, I was able to get a clean emerge and an empty revdep-rebuild (with Bo's help). But gnome is broken on this system (others have reported similar problems). In my case basically all gnome apps, e.g. panel, gnucash, evolution, gnome-terminal, evince fail when a normal user logs in. With a root login, gnome-terminal fails, but panel, gnucash, evolution seem to work (didn't try evince as root). For a normal user gnome login, I use either a shell in emacs or go to a virtual terminal and start an xterm. In any case when I try to start a gnome app (e.g. gnucash), no output is produced, no window appears, but the app shows up in ps x. I would be very appreciative for any help. thanks in advance, allan gottlieb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I am experiencing similar issues to Allan, and I thought it may have something to do with user settings. So, starting from a clean slate, I created a new user and tried to log in, first with gdm and then from the console with startx. Both times with the same result. It seems to make the problem worse. I don't quite know how that could be. I then went back to my old user and started deleting all of the .folders one by one and trying to log in. Folders relevant to the problem seemed to be .gnome2 and .metacity. Perhaps it's a problem with metacity? Either way, I'm by no means a guru, but I'll try to help as much as possible. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gnome fails except for root
On 8/14/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated to the new gnome. After battling the expat problem, I was able to get a clean emerge and an empty revdep-rebuild (with Bo's help). But gnome is broken on this system (others have reported similar problems). In my case basically all gnome apps, e.g. panel, gnucash, evolution, gnome-terminal, evince fail when a normal user logs in. With a root login, gnome-terminal fails, but panel, gnucash, evolution seem to work (didn't try evince as root). For a normal user gnome login, I use either a shell in emacs or go to a virtual terminal and start an xterm. In any case when I try to start a gnome app (e.g. gnucash), no output is produced, no window appears, but the app shows up in ps x. I would be very appreciative for any help. thanks in advance, allan gottlieb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I am experiencing similar issues to Allan, and I thought it may have something to do with user settings. So, starting from a clean slate, I created a new user and tried to log in, first with gdm and then from the console with startx. Both times with the same result. It seems to make the problem worse. I don't quite know how that could be. I then went back to my old user and started deleting all of the .folders one by one and trying to log in. Folders relevant to the problem seemed to be .gnome2 and .metacity. Perhaps it's a problem with metacity? Either way, I'm by no means a guru, but I'll try to help as much as possible. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net An interesting development: I removed my user from the system and deleted his home folder. After that, I made the user again and tried logging in. I got a whole bunch of configuration errors... But I don't understand how this could be. I created ANOTHER user with a different name and logged in... perfectly. Everything seems to work with this user, and nothing seems to work with my user. Are user-based settings stored in some other place? -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
On 8/13/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I successfully battled the expat problem (with Bo's help) and revdep-rebuild reports no further need to recompile. But gnome seems badly broken. $HOME/.gnomerc-errors has one line SESSION_MANAGER=local/ajglap:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7081 1. (minor) gdm can't find the emergence theme, haven't tracked it down since it is minor. 2. No apps seem to start. If I start e.g. gnucash from an xterm the app puts up no window. Here is a ps listing 10136 pts/0S 0:00 gnucash bin Similar results for other gnome apps 3. The panel doesn't appear on the screen, but it does for a root login. I really could use some help I am thinking of trying to rebuild the world (emerge --emptytree world). Am I correct in believing that this is not likely to make things worse. For example emacs-22 and firefox-2.0.0.6 work fine now. thanks allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I'm currently updating the world tree on my machine and I did run into the expat issue. Luckily, it was successfully resolved. I sincerely hope that I don't run into the same issues that you are. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] expat troubles now gnome *very flakey*
On 8/13/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/13/07, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I successfully battled the expat problem (with Bo's help) and revdep-rebuild reports no further need to recompile. But gnome seems badly broken. $HOME/.gnomerc-errors has one line SESSION_MANAGER=local/ajglap:/tmp/.ICE-unix/7081 1. (minor) gdm can't find the emergence theme, haven't tracked it down since it is minor. 2. No apps seem to start. If I start e.g. gnucash from an xterm the app puts up no window. Here is a ps listing 10136 pts/0S 0:00 gnucash bin Similar results for other gnome apps 3. The panel doesn't appear on the screen, but it does for a root login. I really could use some help I am thinking of trying to rebuild the world (emerge --emptytree world). Am I correct in believing that this is not likely to make things worse. For example emacs-22 and firefox-2.0.0.6 work fine now. thanks allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I'm currently updating the world tree on my machine and I did run into the expat issue. Luckily, it was successfully resolved. I sincerely hope that I don't run into the same issues that you are. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net Wow. Well, contrary to my expectations, my system (after emerge -uDNav world) exhibits every one of the problems that you had. At least you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. Would appreciate some help! -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?
On 8/10/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 10 August 2007 09:27:17 Alexander Skwar wrote: Albert W. Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I apologize for the outage. We'll be back online next week and hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with issues like this when they arise. So please have patience with us. As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem with that. What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that. [...] Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait... -- Bo Andresen I definitely agree that the situation would have benefited from better communication. I mean, look at this thread (and others resembling it). If there was a little explanation earlier on, we could have avoided the panic and dissemination of false information that followed. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?
On 8/10/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:01:09 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: If there was a little explanation earlier on, we could have avoided the panic and dissemination of false information that followed. Panic? A web site was inaccessible, that's all. It's not as though the four horsemen of the apocalypse came riding in! Some people really do need to get a little perspective. -- Neil Bothwick What if there were no hypothetical situations? Well of course. I never suspected the demise of the distribution because of a hiccup in the website. But some people did, and some people always will. That was my point. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- z� ��(��j)b� b�
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: packages.gentoo.org down?
The point is if you want immediate and professional reactions everytime something happens you should be paying someone to monitor things.. I'm sorry, it just seems a tad ignorant to assume that the reason the problem with the server was not addressed is because no one was being paid to address it in a prompt fashion. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Flashing BIOS trouble
On 8/9/07, Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant a écrit : I just installed an AMD64 Athlon X2 cpu on my motherboard which was previously running an AMD64 Sempron. Now I get an error about an unknown processor from the BIOS. I can't even boot to a CD or run the BIOS setup. How can I flash the BIOS from this position? - Grant First what the relation with Gentoo ? So i made this thread OT... And so, are you sure that your M/B is compatible with Athlon X2 ? I think you have to make your checks before trying to flash your BIOS, despite of I think that this work will be very hard because to flash your BIOS need to run some instruction, and without a processor it will be hard ! But you can try to flash it with your old processor but i don't really think this will help... Regards, Xavier Parizet -- http://www.linuxant.fr IIRC, as long as a CPU fits into the socket on your motherboard, it should just work. If it doesn't I wouldn't look to the bios for answers, but the handling of the component. Is it possible you may have touched some of the contacts on the chip? If so, your CPU may be fried. On the plus side, the chip might make an interesting geek accessory if you hung it from some sort of chain. -- Dan Cowsill -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?
I've always prefered gentoo-portage.com to the alternative. On 8/7/07, Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's being closed until further notice. So would it not be a good idea to announce this on the front page[1] or at least redirect the link to it from the front page to a page which explains that packages.gentoo.org is unavailable rather than just failing to connect. [1] And maybe also an announcement on gentoo.announce and the 'news and announcements' section of forums.gentoo.org. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
[gentoo-user] Stop net.eth0 from starting?
I've got wifi configured with madwifi and use my wifi interface a lot more than the ethernet I had thought that removing net.eth0 from rc-update, but that didn't seem to work. Every time I booted, the interface tried to go up and get dhcp information. I then read about and used a preup function to check that interfaces are actually connected before they are brought up, and this essentially solves the problem. It occurs to me that it would just be a whole lot easier and cleaner if net.eth0 just didn't try to start at all, but I haven't found any way to do this short of removing the init.d script from rc-update. My question is, is there any way to stop net.eth0 from starting besides ethtool's preup function? Thanks. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- z� ��(��j)b� b�
[gentoo-user] Switching from Genkernel to manual build
Is there any specific process to or problems one might encounter as a result of switching from a Genkernel built kernel over to a manually built kernel? Thanks. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- z� ��(��j)b� b�
[gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Thanks. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating. I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it until I can get a working system. Then I'll investigate cpu frequency scaling. Thanks for your advice. On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine freezes during gcc compile
Yes, it's a new Acer, with a Amd64 Turion mobile mk-38. I had thought initially that the cpu was to blame for the freezups as indeed I have never installed on this particular processor. So far, so good with the freezing, though. I propped the machine up, and all seems to be going smoothly... Does anyone know of any special considerations I should take with the processor? Thanks. On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've done some reading and indeed it probably is overheating. I'll probably prop it up on some jewel cases and blow a fan at it until I can get a working system. Then I'll investigate cpu frequency scaling. Thanks for your advice. On 7/30/07, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got myself a new laptop and wanted to install Gentoo on it. After getting a working base system installed, I tried to install Xorg-x11, but the machine froze while trying to compile gcc. Keep in mind, there were no error messages, logs or anything of that nature. Just a straight up lack of any sort of control over the system. Now, just a little while ago I decided I'd try a different approach. I thought perhaps the problem lies in how I compiled the kernel. I tried to emerge gcc in the livecd environment with my gentoo install chrooted and sure enough, same deal. Does anyone know what could cause this? Or perhaps, what I should look for to solve this problem? Probably your laptop overheated... It happened to me once. Make sure that all fans are not obstructed in any way, and think about setting up CPU frequency scaling according to the CPU temperature, was the only way to get my laptop to compile stuff like GCC and OpenOffice, to set it down to 2.0 GHz when it reaches 70 degrees, instead of its full 2.6GHz. -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] The Future of the Gentoo Foundation
Then the idea that the Gentoo Foundation might 'cease to exist as an entity' isn't really bad news? Some clarification might be in order. On 7/27/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 27. Juli 2007, Daniel da Veiga wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18315/The-Future-of-the-Gentoo-Foundation this is only a (small) part of what Mr Robbins wrote. here is the complete blog-post: http://blog.funtoo.org/ A friend provided me this link, and I'm a little worried... Is this truth, and if it is, how is this problem being solved? well, it is true, that there are problems with paperworks. I guess this is the right place to ask, as all of us users should be concerned about this... maybe. But I can't see why we users should be concerned. It does not matter for us if gentoo stays 'independent' or not. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- z� ��(��j)b� b�
Re: [gentoo-user] 2 to 3??
I read a little bit of the new license, and restrictive though it may be and also strange for a pillar of the open source community to suddenly change is directive so drastically, I am still comforted. I believe the essential beauty of this community is that we cannot be governed by software licenses alone. If we do not like the language of a license, we are by no means bound to employ it. So, if GPLv3 is as terrible as some say it is, then other people will not use it. The true judge of GPLv3's merit will be its adoption. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] File permissions and such
Hey list, It has been a constant burden to me to have to change the file permissions of files I've copied so that other users can access them and modify them. Say I have a number of documents in the /root folder which the root user owns. Now I want to transfer them to my non-priveliged user so I can work on them... But I have to chown them so that is possible. It just occured to me that there must be an easier way to do things like this and I was wondering if you fine fellows could guide me down the right path. Thanks. -- --- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net/ GnuPG Public Key: http://www.danthehat.net/wp-content/uploads/public.asc pgpphMVWtibcH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] File permissions and such
On Saturday 26 May 2007 14:55, Albert Hopkins wrote: Don't know if you're aware of this, but the emails you are sending have Date headers which are WAY into the future. For example, the email you sent that I'm applying to (which I think was sent today) is dated. June 03. Another one you sent a few days ago was dated 31 May. -- Albert W. Hopkins I wasn't aware, thanks :) -- --- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net/ GnuPG Public Key: http://www.danthehat.net/wp-content/uploads/public.asc pgp17hrz3EeS7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] File permissions and such
On Saturday 26 May 2007 15:58, Albert Hopkins wrote: [ Since I gone ahead and polluted the list I'll give my take ] On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 14:36 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: It has been a constant burden to me to have to change the file permissions of files I've copied so that other users can access them and modify them. Say I have a number of documents in the /root folder which the root user owns. Now I want to transfer them to my non-priveliged user so I can work on them... But I have to chown them so that is possible. It just occured to me that there must be an easier way to do things like this and I was wondering if you fine fellows could guide me down the right path. In my experience it's very rare that root would need to do it. If root is reserved mostly for doing those dirty sys-admin tasks then it needn't worry much about file sharing with those pesky users, so far as to say the usual root-shared files (libraries, executables, /usr/share, etc.) Usually it's the case that a) Users need to share a file with root or b) users need to share files with each other. In the former case it's trivial. All your file are belong to root. In the latter case, there are varying methods of doing it, depending on the desired effect. If it's just a one-time thing usually you'll deposit a file in /tmp or /var/tmp and share it there. Another way is to consider a group of users are working a project. Call it project1. Create a group called project1: $ groupadd project1 Add users to the group: $ gpasswd -a user1 project1 $ gpasswd -a user2 project1 $ gpasswd -a user3 project1 Create a shared directory for the group: $ mkdir -p /usr/local/projects/project1 $ chgrp project1 /usr/local/projects/project1 $ chmod g+s /usr/local/projects/project1 Then, depending on your user's umask's they should all have access to files created in that directory. You could also use ACLs but you need make sure your kernel and toolset is configured for it. But I can't remember the last time i needed to share anything in /root with a non-root user. -- Albert W. Hopkins Hey, thanks that makes sense :) Thanks again. -- --- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net/ GnuPG Public Key: http://www.danthehat.net/wp-content/uploads/public.asc pgpTNNXnqf95a.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Copy/Paste Functionality in Konsole
I have just recently switched over to KDE and started using Konsole, and I was wondering something. I really like the copy/paste functionality you find in the Linux console and in PuTTY where you just highlight the text you want to copy and when you release the mouse button, it is copied. Then, you can just right click to paste it into the input line. How would I engineer such functionality in Konsole? --- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net/ GnuPG Public Key: http://www.danthehat.net/wp-content/uploads/public.asc pgpDGhrua2LaJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and KISS ?
LOL! On 5/19/07, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I can't stand it anymore! Since the KISS word appeared on the subject line of gentoo-user I had this idea, and now you're gonna MAKE FUN OF ME, ok? For you, from the bottom of my geek mind and heart :P Tonight I'm gonna do a stage 1 fight... In the darkness There's so much i wanna MAKE... And Tonight I wanna layman at your feet Gentoo I was made for you Emerge you were made for me. I was made for loving you Gentoo, you were made for loving me. And i won't stop compiling you Gentoo, are you done compiling C? :P - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica OpenPGP for HTTP: New Web-Auth Scheme: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/2599 Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGT3EZAlpOsGhXcE0RClxEAJ930cZZmFLM7UjaKrB9kJe0KPhUbACfUryd mbaeCNf77WLsffD1FmaTPTE= =5S2p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] I want to configure an email server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, you guys have given me a lot of reading to do! Thanks for all the pointers. I'll probably fill you in with updates on my progress as I will no doubt run into a few snags. Thanks again! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey there, thanks for the tip! I didn't expect to find a complete HOWTO, as I said, but then again I've never seen a HOWTO that big. Question, though. Do I need to do anything very special to use MySQL instead of PGSQL? You just have to do what they say in the Howto for PgSQL for MySQL, it's the same thing. A sed -e 's|pgsql|mysql|ig' on this Howto might be sufficient :) Thanks again, --- danthehat ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello ! I advise you to take a look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email:_A_Complete_Virtual_System . I've used this howto to make my email server and all works fine now. It's composed of Postfix + Spamassassin + SQLGrey + ClamAV coupled with MySQL database for me or PGSQL as in the howto. Regards, Xavier Parizet http://www.linuxant.fr/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 But I have no idea where to start. Frankly, so many possibilities and incredibly complex setups have deterred me somewhat from embarking on this venture. However, I would very much like to have my very own email server under my own domain name. So what I'm asking you guys for is documentation, software packages, recommended setups, anything you can add. I am not looking for an all in one HOWTO (and don't really expect to find one with such a complicated process) and I am willing to RTFM when necessary. Thanks a lot guys. - - -- danthehat ;) - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list - -- - --- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGSHez5vsIjOKjGzwRAhSnAJ4/gUIin0T9Z2GqtGuTxeUf/h+kEACgovqx uzBrSW2gZcxWc8CHZzmoSCQ= =yueD -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Dan Cowsill n:Cowsill;Dan adr:;;;Welland;ON;L3B 4Z7;Canada email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.danthehat.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] I want to configure an email server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 But I have no idea where to start. Frankly, so many possibilities and incredibly complex setups have deterred me somewhat from embarking on this venture. However, I would very much like to have my very own email server under my own domain name. So what I'm asking you guys for is documentation, software packages, recommended setups, anything you can add. I am not looking for an all in one HOWTO (and don't really expect to find one with such a complicated process) and I am willing to RTFM when necessary. Thanks a lot guys. - - -- danthehat ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGR4bN5vsIjOKjGzwRAjnWAJsHcgVriudJJtbJ6L04Xi3FEwG2iQCg7U+4 fOd8dzvi14gIcHsLuGRVXzs= =r01T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I want to configure an email server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey there, thanks for the tip! I didn't expect to find a complete HOWTO, as I said, but then again I've never seen a HOWTO that big. Question, though. Do I need to do anything very special to use MySQL instead of PGSQL? Thanks again, - --- danthehat ;)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello ! I advise you to take a look at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email:_A_Complete_Virtual_System . I've used this howto to make my email server and all works fine now. It's composed of Postfix + Spamassassin + SQLGrey + ClamAV coupled with MySQL database for me or PGSQL as in the howto. Regards, Xavier Parizet http://www.linuxant.fr/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 But I have no idea where to start. Frankly, so many possibilities and incredibly complex setups have deterred me somewhat from embarking on this venture. However, I would very much like to have my very own email server under my own domain name. So what I'm asking you guys for is documentation, software packages, recommended setups, anything you can add. I am not looking for an all in one HOWTO (and don't really expect to find one with such a complicated process) and I am willing to RTFM when necessary. Thanks a lot guys. - - -- danthehat ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGR4bN5vsIjOKjGzwRAjnWAJsHcgVriudJJtbJ6L04Xi3FEwG2iQCg7U+4 fOd8dzvi14gIcHsLuGRVXzs= =r01T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGR5QS5vsIjOKjGzwRAsrfAKCCT0H6mLeY8DfmEv5b0GTs+KWKRACgw+T+ vIj8HqCMNUsa7vK8+DIFNhM= =kjJq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto for Sendmail configuration?
Ah, thanks a bunch. That did the trick. On 5/1/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 29 April 2007 18:14:53 Dan Cowsill wrote: As per the gmail question, perhaps some clarification is in order. I'd like to use gmail's smtp server to send mail instead of my ISP's server. Is this possible with the TLS/SSL encryption that Gmail uses? Sure. From /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf: mailhub=smtp.gmail.com:465 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AuthPass=PASSWORD -- Bo Andresen -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·- z� ��(��j)b� b�
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto for Sendmail configuration?
On 4/28/07, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: · Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also wonder if it's possible to use sendmail to relay mail to my gmail account and send it from there? ? What do you want to accomplish? What benefit do you see by doing that? Alexander Skwar -- BOFH Excuse #346: Your/our computer(s) had suffered a memory leak, and we are waiting for them to be topped up. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Oh, I just assumed since the sendmail binary was always assumed to be on unix systems that sendmail is the package i need to screw with. But since this is not the case, I'm pretty happy :) As per the gmail question, perhaps some clarification is in order. I'd like to use gmail's smtp server to send mail instead of my ISP's server. Is this possible with the TLS/SSL encryption that Gmail uses? Thanks -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
[gentoo-user] Howto for Sendmail configuration?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I started hosting a wordpress blog on my system and it came to my attention that wordpress uses the PHP mail() function to do confirmation emails. The mail() function uses UNIX sendmail, and I figured I could go ahead and configure that puppy up to send off my blog's email without issue... I was wrong. One look at the sendmail configuration file actually angered me because of all the crap I would no doubt have to go through to get it working. So what I am looking for is a simplified howto describing how I could set up sendmail to deliver mail for me... I also wonder if it's possible to use sendmail to relay mail to my gmail account and send it from there? Thank you very much, Dan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMk4n5vsIjOKjGzwRAlJlAJ0SHMZnjlkNaTHnyuhgPkR/5Q8IUACdHroz HzwVvVEuzYJ9y8pkiJ5PwQY= =rsBN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] beryl 0.2.1 - a GUI question
On 4/25/07, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone Sorry for this stupid ms-windows-like question but this thingie slowly cuts my nerves.. ;-( Yesterday I upgraded beryl to ver. 0.2.1. There is this so called scale feature that brings clickable thumbnails of the windows from all sides of the cube. I like it very much and I have a kbd shortcut assigned for it. The thing which drives me nuts is that scale activates when my mouse pointer goes to the UPPER RIGHT corner of the screen. It appears that I use many maximized windows and when I try to close some of them I reach the corner which on its turn brings scale. I'have disabled all the mouse shortcuts in the scale section of the beryl-setting tool, but it is still active. Please, tell me how should I disable this shortcut. Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Settings for screen edges are located in the General Settings, under Shortcuts and in the Screen Edges Tab. Hope this helps :) -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock/Daylight Savings
I dual boot windows on my system, and for some reason, windows can't keep the time straight after the change. What used to happen is I'd have openntp sync my clock, then restart to play some games. After booting back into Gentoo, ntpd would see such a large difference in what the time is supposed to be and what it actually is according to the hwclock that it just wouldn't sync! The solution was to use ntpclient on default runlevel, as it just syncs the clock with no special conditions. Of course, you can run both if your into that sort of thing. I use ntpd to set my clock to UTC time and then use zoneinfo to set it back to Eastern Standard. Works like a charm. Oh, and UTC is generally a good idea because it isn't affected by daylight savings time at all :) Hope this helps. -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel 2.6.20-r6
Lol On 4/18/07, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick wrote: hda: 39070080 sectors (20003 MB) w/1740KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/636hda: hw_config=600d, UDMA(100) What's the hw_config part? It just means that the hardware configuration is good. Sorry, couldn't resist. :) Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -·=»Ðŧħ«=·-
