[gentoo-user] Gentoo on 8GB SSD
A friend recently gave me a SimpleTech Zeus 8GB SSD. I'd like to replace my hard drive with this SSD for the lower latency and faster access times it will provide. Currently my / partition is 24GB, 20GB of which is in use. Using xdiskusage I see that /usr/portage and /var/tmp are using approximately 10GB, which is well over the 7.5GB I have on the SSD. So, I'm wondering what suggestions the list has for squeezing Gentoo onto an SSD. I have another Gentoo box I could put /usr/portage on to save myself some room on the SSD. Aside from NFS mounting the package source and build directories, is there anything else I can do to minimize the space needed? I'm not running anything terribly fancy. I have DR17/enlightenment and XFCE installed as window managers; along with some productivity applications. Thanks for your feedback, Hal Martin
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] NFS poor performance, high system load
Roy Wright wrote: On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Hal Martin wrote: Hello all, Sorry if it seems like this is a repeat question, but I've gone through my Gentoo list for the past 2 years and none of the answers provided for previous threads on this seem to work for me. Here's the situation: /etc/exports: /mnt/daigo 192.168.0.31(rw,insecure) A couple of years ago, I experienced the same type of issue where nfs performance was a lot lower than smb. It turned out a switch I was using was bad. I suggest first minimizing your testing network, and then swapping components such as switches. Others on the LinuxMCE list had issues with specific network drivers. I current use nfs between kubuntu, gentoo, and macbook (10.5.8 2GHz Core 2 Duo) systems. I have media volumes on the kubuntu, and both gentoo systems. I use autofs on each system for mounting the nfs volumes. Here's an example of the settings: /etc/exports: /var/media 192.168.80.0/24(async,no_subtree_check,rw,no_root_squash,insecure) That's fixed it! Thanks! I'm now getting ~50MB/s over NFS. System load is still up around 6, but I can live with that. /etc/auto.media: royw-gentoo-rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft,timeo=30,rw royw-gentoo:/var/media dad-kubuntu-rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft,timeo=30,rw dad-kubuntu:/var/media My macbook Connect to Server: nfs://royw-gentoo/var/media/public/data nfs://dad-kubuntu/var/media/public/data The no_subtree_check and the no_root_squash parameters are left over from when I used LinuxMCE. The insecure parameter is required to allow the macbook to connect. The rsize and wsize seem to work fine for streaming dvd iso images to my gentoo XBMC system over gigabit ethernet. I've also streamed a few movies to my macbook and did not notice any performance issues. Streaming movies from my gentoo box to my macbook doesn't present any performance issues as the data rate is usually fairly low. My media drives are WDC WD10EACS (1TB). How are you testing performance? With test procedure I can try to duplicate. Large files. I'm transferring 4-7GB .mkv files, but I believe any large file would do. -Hal HTH, Roy
[gentoo-user] NFS poor performance, high system load
Hello all, Sorry if it seems like this is a repeat question, but I've gone through my Gentoo list for the past 2 years and none of the answers provided for previous threads on this seem to work for me. Here's the situation: Gentoo box: AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Intel PCIe Gigabit Network adapter 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82572EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 06) Supermicro 8-port PCI-X SATA card (in a PCI slot) 03:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller (rev 09) Western Digital 1TB Black Edition hard drive (writing to an XFS partition) 2.6.27-amd64 (Yes, it's old, it's on my list to upgrade) Client: MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.26Ghz Intel integrated Gigabit Network adapter Seagate 160GB SATA hard drive (5400RPM) Mac OS X 10.6.1 /etc/exports: /mnt/daigo 192.168.0.31(rw,insecure) hdparm -tT /dev/sdf /dev/sdf: Timing cached reads: 1230 MB in 2.00 seconds = 614.64 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 316 MB in 3.01 seconds = 104.95 MB/sec Over NFS I'm getting 3.7MB/s, with occasional bursts of 25MB/s for 1-5 seconds, then returning to 3.7MB/s. During this entire process, the system load is hovering around 5.5. The same copy, using samba to share that partition, I get 45MB/s sustained. System load is around 1.0. Even though the SATA controller is over the PCI bus, which does limit its performance somewhat (no RAID arrays are running on it) as you can see from the attached hdparm output, the disk is capable of speeds that should be around what gigabit ethernet can provide. I know this is a Gentoo list, and not generally the place to complain about poor NFS performance in Mac OS X, we all know Gentoo is superior in just about every way anyway. However, I simply cannot believe that the difference in transfer speeds is due to strictly to Mac OS X's NFS capabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions for reducing the system load caused by NFS? Can you suggest any performance increasing tips for my NFS configuration? Thanks, Hal
Re: [gentoo-user] e17 overlay bug
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2008 15:36:54 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I've found that the recent EINA library release for e17 has broken just about everything. Gentoo's overlay system should be simple enough to modify however after reading the fine manual I am no closer to understanding the appropriate course of action to create eina as a dependency in the overlay (I've bugged [EMAIL PROTECTED] to no avail) Mike is usually pretty quick with these things. Mike?!, What, Vapier's formal name is Mike? Mike Frysinger - he's a busy man :-) He heads up the gentoo toolchain team, is a lead kernel dev on the blackfin architecture, recently was (maybe still is) on the gentoo council. And maintains an e17 overlay. Oh, he also has a regular job as well. Wow. Back to important stuff, is the overlay in good shape (apart from this specific problem)? For example, is it compatible with Portage's new requirements for Manifest? Yes, it dumped digests a long time ago and has been manifest only for ages now. I've been using it for years and supplement it with extra ebuild I find on gentoo forums or write myself. This is usually modules, itaask, winlist, etc etc and I keep them in my local provate overlay. Quality was always good, mainly because the e17 team were not ripping huge chunks of code out of libs and putting them elsewhere. So the build process stayed the same, only the code changed. Remember edb, evoak, med? It was ages since that level of disruptive change went into svn. Until eina :-) What's eina? I guess it's been too long since I've updated e17... I think this is being driven by raster's work on openmoko. Finally, someone is paying him to work on e17, and he's writing low-level libs to make e17 better on tiny screens. Looks like a lot pf refactoring is going on, and we all just have to wit till it settles down. Also, why are the snapshot ebuilds so horribly outdated? Is it because Vapier is too busy to update them or because he just thinks that e17 is like Mplayer, a project where the developers actually take care to keep the svn code in good shape (only committing working code)? The snapshot ebuilds are not out of date - the e17 snapshots are :-) the team keeps mumbling that they really ought to do this more often, like once a month, then carry on doing it once a year... My computer has some bugs*. I am trying Xfce instead of e17 to see if the bugs were e17's fault, but the bugs continue. I wonder if I should go back to e17 1) It is *very* fast and *very* lightweight (even when compared to Xfce) 2) It is vastly configurable and does things Xfce does not (like, for a quick example, remembering per-window configuration, fine tuning window borders, and even making windows borderless) but 1) It is unreleased; users have to compile code from svn. 2) Outputs a truckload of text to .xsession-errors. Does it mean that the code is full of little problems that cause warnings? Xfce, in comparison, only outputs two assertion faileds 3) Does not seem to have a Trash Bin or a System tray. I care little about these, though (and I imagine there are plugins to provide them, but I didn't bother to search). You want a trash bin? No problem: http://www.gurumeditation.it/blog/enlightenment/trash/ Trash? Sounds like you need to get out and use rm more. Do you think a user who expects a reasonably stable and bug-free environment (say, a user who accepts the latest Ubuntu, instead of demanding the stability of Debian stable) can rely on e17? Yes, I do it everyday. E17 is my primary window manager, and I have come to expect that for the most part, it will be rock solid. There are occasions where it crashes on me, but I've been able to recover every time it's done that. No, not in the current state. It was fine till 3 months ago. Users who want that should be using one of the suse- or debian or ubuntu-derived distro that run a stable e17 as the primary wm. Those maintainers try hard to use only workable svn checkouts when building the distro. Really, what's it like now? I haven't updated E17 in several months... not regretting that choice now though. I occasionally get a crash on E17, but I can always recover it without loosing my X session. If you use e17 svn code, be prepared to act like a dev. That's what the e17 team expects, that's how they build the thing currently and that's the price we have to pay to get to use that wm. Yes, I remember having to switch to Xfce for several weeks late last year when E17 went to hell in a hand basket... that wasn't really fun. I myself got tired of eternally fiddling with e and have resorted to using kde until things settle down...
Re: [gentoo-user] State of ATi drivers in Linux -- IMO, it's horrific...
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sunday 28 September 2008, Hal Martin wrote: Hello all, I am contemplating building a new computer with an AMD/ATi graphics card. I've been following the subject of ATi driver quality in linux for a while, but I realize that the experiences I read on Google search results are, shall we say, biased, as many people who have perfectly working cards don't go out and comment on how great their drivers are. So, do any of you have newer (HD series) AMD/ATi graphics cards? HD3870 I just picked up the HD3850, which is a nice card by all measures. What drivers (AMD closed source, or open source) are you using? fglrx - the closed source ones. I installed these drivers (from portage) and tried them. Are they stable? yes. Switching between vt and X works, and restarting X too - but the ati scripts in /etc/acpi have to be removed. With desktop effects turned off 2d is fast and snappy and video is ok. With desktop effects turned on 2d is fast except manually resizing windows and xv-video sucks. Luckily kde 4.1 makes it easy to switch ;) - and I don't need xv ;) I had a horrid time with the fglrx drivers. I use two displays, and while it was a breeze to setup (even easier than on an NVidia card) the result was horrid. I can't drag windows from one display to another, the windows wrap within the display. The fglrx_gears program renders something that I don't believe heralds from this planet; while glx_gears renders the same thing I get on my NVidia card only 10% slower (which is expected given the performance difference between the 7900GTX and the HD3850.) Trying to exit X11 causes a complete system lockup, requiring a hard reset. How is the performance? very good. I play ut2004 and vegastrike 0.5. With a but. See above. I couldn't get any Wine apps that use 3D to work. Call of Duty 4 refused to start, citing that the video card didn't support alpha blending. Any noise issues with your card when it's idle? Under load? the fan is very quiet in KDE or playing games. Only in the menus of ut2004 or on a vt it turns up - but is still very bearable. aticonfig --odgt Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 3870 Sensor 0: Temperature - 51.00 C My card is incredibly, nay, unbelievably loud until you throttle the fan manually from aticonfig, which, I might add, is absent from the Catalyst control centre gui. After throttling the fan down to 3% the card settles around 45.00C and is quiet enough to bare. My attempt to uninstall the portage based ATI drivers (which are slightly dated,) and install the official drivers from ATI proved to wreck my system beyond comprehension. 'eselect opengl list' no longer includes ATI, only xorg-x11. I have no ability to start X11 anyone, and no fan control, meaning I now have a jet engine residing in my computer. There must be something I'm doing wrong. I've heard that ATI drivers aren't supposed to lock up your system when you exit X11, is this still the case? Was this ever the case with two monitors? Is there any way to get the ATI driver to automatically set a reasonable fan speed, or must I do it manually? I've switched back to my original NVidia card, and the kind folks on the #gentoo channel helped me restore my NVidia drivers to their original state. I don't know when I'll attempt to try the ATI card again, as this experience has shown me just how bad things can get. The fact that the Gentoo Wiki dealing with ATI drivers is outdated and references AGPGART so many times I actually began to think that my system had AGP on it. Does someone have a better guide on how to setup an ATI/AMD graphics card in linux using the drivers provided in the portage tree? If I can't run two monitors off the card and keep my system stable, then there's no point, in my mind, of even keeping the card. Also, and I don't know if the Gentoo list is the proper place to voice these concerns (I doubt it is, actually) but *what* is with the fan speed control? It's non-existent! My experience with ATI drivers today remind me of the state of NVidia drivers 3 years ago, it's horrific! -Hal
[gentoo-user] State of ATi drivers in Linux
Hello all, I am contemplating building a new computer with an AMD/ATi graphics card. I've been following the subject of ATi driver quality in linux for a while, but I realize that the experiences I read on Google search results are, shall we say, biased, as many people who have perfectly working cards don't go out and comment on how great their drivers are. So, do any of you have newer (HD series) AMD/ATi graphics cards? What drivers (AMD closed source, or open source) are you using? Are they stable? How is the performance? Any noise issues with your card when it's idle? Under load? I'd just like to point out that I have an NVidia 7900GTX right now, and it's been working well for me, but I'd like to upgrade to something with stream processors and little more power. I've heard that NVidia 2D performance under linux suffers greatly if you have an 8000, 9000, or GX series card. Have any of your experienced poor 2D performance since upgrading your NVidia card? Thanks, -Hal
Re: [gentoo-user] Privoxy log access rights
Mick wrote: Hi All, Could you please tell me what is the access rights on the provoxy log file on your machine? For some reason mine look like this: # ls -la /var/log/ | grep priv drwxr-x--- 2 51 privoxy 408 Sep 21 07:40 privoxy Mine: drwxr-x--- 2 privoxy privoxy4096 2008-09-13 03:10 privoxy -Hal
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Marc Joliet wrote: Am Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:25:02 +0200 schrieb pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Hi, I'm trying to setup virtualbox networking. I went through the tutorial at gentoo wiki, but I have troubles ... obvious :-( In the howto there's called /sbin/ip, but I have no idea in which package this program rise ;-) you're looking for sys-apps/iproute2. I also installed VirtualBox, however when the Gentoo wiki suggested I edit a bunch of files in /etc/ I decided to go with the VirtualBox default configuration files; lo-and-behold, it works, Batman! What I need is the bidirectional communication between host and guest. Sorry, but I can't help you there, though I'm going to sit down and set that up myself when I have time (this year, I hope ;) ). I currently have all my virtual machines configured to use the PCnet-FAST III (Am79C973) virtual network adapter. This was because the Intel PRO/1000 virtual network card often mentioned in the Gentoo wiki isn't available for some reason. I have the virtual adapter attached to NAT and I can mount host machines NFS/Samba shares from inside the virtual machine. What kind of bidirectional communication are you looking for? I'm sure that if you setup a virtual network adapter that the guest OS recognizes you can SSH from the virtual machine into the host machine, or perhaps this is not what you had in mind. I just tested SSH on my Ubuntu virtual machine, and I can SSH into the host machine and other machines on my home network. However, what I *can't* do is ssh into the virtual machine from any computer, including the host machine, on my network. Then again, there may be some sly way to do this that I am not aware of. ;-) I currently run Ubuntu, Windows XP, and Windows Vista in virtual machines. Before the LinuxWindows flame war starts; what is the guest OS you are trying to configure client - host networking with? If it is a freely available, non-commercial OS, perhaps I can install it for you in my VirtualBox installation and test the functionality you're interested in. If you would like any direct help regarding VirtualBox, don't hesitate to send me an email directly. Here to help whenever possible, -Hal Thanks for help Pat HTH
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird df listing
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008 19:05:53 Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 15:39 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag, 2. September 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote: Can someone please explain to me what's going on with /dev/sda6? I couldn't log into GNOME after my reboot yesterday, and when I asked for a df listing in the console, I got this. Shouldn't there be 4GB available? camille ~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda6 78G 74G 0G 100% / udev 10M 184K 9.9M 2% /dev /dev/sda7 52G 40G 12G 78% /mnt/store shm 247M 0 247M 0% /dev/shm catherine:/backup 44G 34G 8.5G 80% /backup/catherine you have space left, but the inodes are all used up. Typical problem for fs like extX. What fs should I use instead? For future reference what's the current standard? There isn't one, you get to use whatever filesystem and layout you feel will get the job done best for you. You might as well ask what's the current recommended standard 4-wheeled vehicle (i.e. car) for a family I use JFS. It's a heck of a lot faster than extX to run a file system check on I've never run into any problems with inodes, and it's fast to create/delete files. The vehicle analogy works best, because it really is to each their own when it comes to file systems. Here are some file system benchmarks: http://fsbench.netnation.com/ http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 And for the graphically represented results people: http://tservice.net.ru/~s0mbre/old/?section=projectsitem=fs_contest2 To make a long read short: JFS is less CPU intensive than most other file systems, faster to create, check, and unmount; however, it's not as fast as others (ReiserFS being the main one) when it comes to a large directory/file structure. -Hal :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] help
Erik Ohrnberger wrote: help Certainly, where/in what do you require it? -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] (Recent) Locale problem
Hi all, This has probably been mentioned before, but I can't find any mention of it in the list archive or any [gentoo] solutions on Google. Here's the problem, after a recent 'emerge -uNDav world' parts of my locale are now unset. Terminal output of 'locale' locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_NUMERIC=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_TIME=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_COLLATE=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_MONETARY=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_MESSAGES=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_PAPER=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_NAME=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LC_ALL=en_US.ISO-8859-15 Now, I've tried to set it right, following the Gentoo localization guide and many more, but nothing has worked. What was installed in that emerge: *** emerge --newuse --deep --ask --update --verbose world emerge (1 of 21) dev-libs/libsigc++-2.2.2 to / emerge (2 of 21) app-admin/eselect-ctags-1.5 to / emerge (3 of 21) sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.10-r1 to / emerge (4 of 21) sys-devel/autoconf-2.61-r2 to / emerge (5 of 21) dev-lang/python-2.5.2-r5 to / emerge (6 of 21) media-gfx/imagemagick-6.4.0.6 to / emerge (7 of 21) media-libs/faad2-2.6.1-r1 to / emerge (8 of 21) net-misc/rsync-3.0.2 to / emerge (9 of 21) net-proxy/privoxy-3.0.8 to / emerge (10 of 21) dev-tcltk/snack-2.2.10-r1 to / emerge (11 of 21) net-p2p/dclib-0.3.13 to / emerge (12 of 21) sys-libs/glibc-2.6.1 to / emerge (13 of 21) x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.30 to / emerge (14 of 21) app-admin/gamin-0.1.9-r1 to / emerge (15 of 21) media-plugins/gst-plugins-faad-0.10.5-r1 to / emerge (16 of 21) net-p2p/valknut-0.3.13 to / emerge (17 of 21) app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-20080418 to / emerge (18 of 21) app-emulation/wine-1.1.0 to / emerge (19 of 21) sys-libs/pam-1.0.1 to / emerge (20 of 21) sys-auth/pambase-20080318 to / emerge (21 of 21) app-admin/sudo-1.6.9_p16 to / *** Finished. Cleaning up... *** exiting successfully. *** terminating. I've tried regenerating my locale, nothing. I'm out of things to try! /etc/env.d/02locale looks like: LC_ALL=en_US.ISO-8859-15 LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15 Thanks, Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
James wrote: Platoali platoali at gmail.com writes: I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? Just a suggestion, wait about a month before you buy, if you can. Both ATi and nVidia are poised to release new generations of cards, both which outperform their predecessors at a lower price point. All religious questions, imho. Nvidia might have the latest edge in pure performance, but, the movement to open up sources is definitely an opportunity for a game changing situation, imho. nVidia user here, I haven't had any problems with their drivers. Sure, there's the occasional version with a memory leak, etc... and when that happens I just downgrade to the last stable version and wait for a better one to come out. And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? Again, I haven't had any difficulties with the nVidia drivers. I'm running a GeForce 7900GTX, which uses the same linux driver as the Quadro does. kernel newbies has some information for you to start your research: Section 3 DRIVERS: Section 3.1 Graphics: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#head-d08660c208028aa2b3783826cd7935ab510b736f You might also use this page for comparison purposes: http://freestone-group.com/video-card-stability-test/benchmark-results.html Personally, I like ATI, but it more because I believe that AMD will come closer to doing what's best for opensource rather than Nvidia or Intel. It would be great if I'm wrong When you spend your money, you are casting a vote, imho. hth, James -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Stroller wrote: On 10 Jun 2008, at 21:55, Thomas Pedersen wrote: Was thinking of buying the Western Digital' My Book® Home Edition™, specially because of the eSATA connection... I heard they have an internal USB-hub for making the capacity gauge working. I'm sorry, but I fail to see why the above example mentioned qualifies as Thread Hijacking. He started a new thread to pose his question, and, if anything, was only being indirect in asking it. Please don't hijack threads like this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_hijacking http://groups.google.com/group/linux.gentoo.user/msg/8a540add45e7e9b8? It is irritating for people using thread-aware e-mail clients... In case you didn't know, it happens when you use reply for sending a new question instead of composing a new message. He *did* compose a new message, there is no Re: in the header and no other content in the message. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HIJACKING THREADS
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Hal Martin wrote: [snip] I'm sorry, but I fail to see why the above example mentioned qualifies as Thread Hijacking. He started a new thread to pose his question, and, if anything, was only being indirect in asking it. No, he did not start a new thread. Other wise why does his mail have this header; In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Quite right, my mistake for looking into it further. He *did* compose a new message, there is no Re: in the header and no other content in the message. That's not how you determine if a thread has been hijacked. The Re: is simply a subject line and can be edited. Deleting all content from a previous post is also not it, as thread-aware mail clients use extended headers to do it, specifically In-Reply-To and References Using Thunderbird it appeared to be a new thread, the same applies to the GMail web interface. However, on closer inspection of the message header, it does appear to be a case of thread hijacking. My mistake, and I would retract my previous comments regarding the matter. I instead wish to resubmit my response on thread hijacking: Thread Hijacking is bad, don't do it. -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems mounting Nikon D40 Camera, vfat FS issue?
darren kirby wrote: Hello all, Trying for the first time to download images from a new Nikon D40 camera. libgphoto2 lists the camera as supported in PTP mode. I have tried using PTP mode with digikam (hooking up the camera directly), and also simply trying to mount the memory card using a card reader. Both methods fail. The card is recognized: usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 2 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Generic STORAGE DEVICE 0001 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 3970048 512-byte hardware sectors (2033 MB) sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 02 00 00 00 sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 3970048 512-byte hardware sectors (2033 MB) sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 02 00 00 00 sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through sdc: sdc1 usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 8 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access NIKOND40 1.10 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 3970048 512-byte hardware sectors (2033 MB) sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00 sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 3970048 512-byte hardware sectors (2033 MB) sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00 sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through sdc: sdc1 sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete Attempts in PTP mode fail with digikam reporting Failed to connect to the camera. Please make sure it is connected properly and turned on. The camera itself reports that it is connected to the computer properly. When directly mounting I get: # mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt/camera mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so Works on my D40. I haven't tried with digikam though, as I prefer to use direct file access. I assume that if mounting the card works, PTP should as well. I have these lines in my dmesg whenever I try to mount it, or use PTP mode: Unable to load NLS charset cp437 FAT: codepage cp437 not found In my kernel config I have this: (437) Default codepage for FAT So, is there something else I need to get this codepage? The camera appears to be detected just fine, and the issue seems to be directly related to mounting the vfat filesystem and this missing codepage... Just to note: It is a stable amd64 Gentoo system, and I do have vfat module loaded when I attempt to mount. I am on the same arch and have the module fat and vfat loaded. Kernel version 2.6.23-gentoo-r6. Any other ideas? Use an SD card reader, pull your data off, then format the card again? If you'd like, I can post my kernel config and you can look for differences between them. Thanks for consideration, -d -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Keyboard problems
No, I've had the same problem, same symptoms, and the same solution fixed it. My assumption is that the kernel has some bug where the keyboard interface starts dropping data. I'm running 2.6.23-gentoo-r6 on an AMD64. -Hal ionut cucu wrote: While gracefully working on my computer out of the blue, by keyboard stops working. Changing keyboards didn't help, only rebooting does. Both PS/2 keyboards...So I guess it's a computer issue...any ideas where I should start looking? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] UPS recommendation
Arthur Britto wrote: On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 10:15 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: I did a search for UPS units and was overwhelmed by the diversity out there. What can the group recommend? I only need something that will give me about a minute's head start to safely turn of the box. You likely want more than a minute. Most likely, you don't want your system to crash when coming back up when power fails soon after it is restored: your system could be in the middle of a fsck. Generally, you want enough capacity to: power off, power on, and then power off safely. True, but I find the main purpose of my UPS is to keep the computer running throughout a short power-outage. That's what happens 90% of the time, the other 10% of the time, the power outage lasts longer than the UPS and it shuts the computer down. I am very happy with the CyberPower Intelligent LCD Series: CP*AVRLCD http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/ The series has: NUT support: You want something that works with NUT. Instead of a vendor specific package. This way your acquired skills are portable and future proofed. Network UPS Tools http://eu1.networkupstools.org NUT is great. It safely powers off my system when the UPS is low. Additionally, I set it up to e-mail my cell phone when the power state changes. If I go out during a power outage, I can stay out longer if I know the power is not restored. Didn't know that existed. It has really good UPS support too. Guess I can buy something other than an APC. USB interface: * A USB port is more future proof: serial ports are becoming rare. * Allows monitoring UPS state. * Allows powering off the UPS. LCD Display: At a touch know: * power consumption (don't need to pull out a Kill-O-Watt) * battery charge * estimated minutes remaining How much do you think this draws? Does it have any negative effect on backup time? One thing to be wary of is like most inexpensive UPSes it does not provide a pure sine wave. This can damage a power supply that has active power factor correction. Luckily for my Silencer 750 Quad according to the manufacturer due to the short time in which the UPS is in use it is not an issue. Could this be why my computer makes this horrific buzzing noise when on the UPS? I have an APC XS800, the PSU is a Seasonic 330W with Active PFC. -Arthur -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Splitting .mov files
I assume you want each piece of this file to be play-able? If you don't care about that, just use split to chop them up into your desired size and then use cat to reassemble them at the destination. *$ split –bytes=1m /path/to/large/file /path/to/output/file/prefix* 'man split' will also contain this information. -Hal Mick wrote: Hi All, I have a rather large .mov file which I want to split into two separate files. What options are available to me? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dvd playback decryption trouble
Is Mac OS X able to play the DVD? That should determine if it is hardware, not software. -Hal b.n. wrote: Albert Hopkins ha scritto: On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 16:09 +0200, b.n. wrote: where could I look to understand what's different between the two systems? The DVD drive? :) I thought about that. However I wanted to be sure that I don't miss something at the software level, before accepting the grim possibility my laptop dvd drive is defective. m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Dell PowerEdge 750 problem
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 15:04:56 Amar Cosic wrote: Block device /dev/sda3 is not valid root device... Could not find the root block device in. Is AHCI set up correctly in your BIOS? Try toggling it and see if that helps. On these lines, what CPU does this thing use? AFAIK Lilo has some issues with newer (specifically AMD64 and 64-bit systems) hardware. I'm aware that this server is equipped with an Intel CPU, but could it be that Lilo simply doesn't support your hardware? Unfortunately, it is proving harder than I expected to find a list of Lilo supported hardware. -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] x264 encoding Cache64
Hello all, I recently upgraded HandBrake on my mythbackend server to 0.9.2. One thing I noticed that I thought was strange was that this new version used something called Cache64 when encoding x264 video. Trusty Google was... not so helpful in finding out what this is. The only reason I'm asking is because I don't understand why a 32-bit dual CPU Xeon system (P4 variety) uses this extension and my Athlon X2 doesn't. I don't see anything resembling this extension in /proc/cpuinfo (on either machine,) and so I'm left wondering what it is. Also, I happen to know that my Athlon X2 has pni, aka SSE3, and yet when I compile HandBrake it doesn't make use of this (while taking advantage of SSE3 on C2D systems.) I was wondering if this was simply because I didn't have pni in my USE flags, or whether this could be caused by something else. HandBrake uses jam to build, so would I have to compile jam with SSE3 support for things it builds to use them? As always, all help is appreciated, no matter how biased it may be. ;-) -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:19:36 -0500, Dale wrote: Folks, keep in mind why I asked this question in the first place. My power supply was frying and I needed a VERY fast shutdown. I'd shutdown and stay shutdown until I could replace the PSU. PSUs are cheap, the components a dying one can take with it are not :( Well, the P/S went out right when it was unmounting at the very end of the shutdown process. I had one file system that it had to replay a few things when I rebooted. It was a close call since the file systems that wasn't unmounted was not a critical one. I can no longer contain my curiosity. How did you know it was frying? Smell, smoke? Normally, when something like that fails, it will fail too quickly for you to do anything about it. I did replace the P/S with a new one tho. After getting the rubber band off the fan, I did check to see if it would boot up but it just sat there. I took it back apart and one of the transistors had a burnt spot, actually, it was a diode. Since when those things burn out they are basically not repairable, I just got a new one locally. I plan to get a permanent replacement from newegg soon. The P/S I have right now is a A-Open or something. It was all they had. I did notice that the 5 volt rail is higher than the other P/S's I have had before tho. This one is at 4.97 volts where it is usually 4.91 or something. Ah yes, the old dead fan problem... that's why I keep a can of compressed air near my desk, and if not that, a pair of full lungs. ;-) A low quality PSU shouldn't be too bad, for the time being. However, I wouldn't recommend running on one for longer than necessary. I've had friends who trusted case PSUs a little too much, and paid the price. You are right about burning out other components tho. I have had two P/S's to burn out in this one rig. So far, nothing else hurt. I have some good luck I guess. Sounds like it. Hey, can I borrow some of that luck? You'll get it back in *almost* mint condition. Dale -Hal :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine
Benyamin Dvoskin wrote:
Hi All ,
I've been wondering how one can clone an entire gentoo system and copy
it to another physical machine , while the original system is still
running ( means , ghost , acronis and other tools that force me to
shutdown the system are not acceptable )
So , someone told me to try just tar the whole system to the other
machine and untar it there.
It is possible, that I know, but it is also difficult.
The question is how can I do that ? what are the correct attributes
and flags ?
You cannot use tar unless you create an exclude file, as it will copy
the contents of /dev and /sys, which means the entire contents of RAM,
and anything that is currently being generated by your devices will be
copied as well.
Personally, I would use either tar or rsync to do this, however, in
saying that, I have never actually done this with a live system. This is
the tar command I use for copying inactive systems, and it works quite well.
(cd /mnt/source; tar cfpl - .) | (cd /mnt/dest; tar xfp -)
I assume you could just generate an exclude file, and include that in
the first command ('tar cfpl - .') and it *should* work for you.
The other way would be to use rsync, which I have less experience using,
but should do the job.
rsync -avHp --progress / /mnt/dest/
There's a space between / and /mnt/dest, just incase that's unclear...
Or maybe someone have other ideas ?
Again, you'd have to find a way to exclude /dev /sys, and probably
another directory or two too, but again, I don't really have any
experience copying a live system. I'm sure other learned people on this
list will have lots of useful suggestions for you!
Thanks
Benyamin
-Hal
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: rhythmbox plays silently
Michael Schmarck wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, onto your actual problem. It is exceptionally hard to even attempt to provide a solution unless someone else fixed the exact same problem before, as you have not provided any configuration at all and very little useful information. What would you have wanted to see? I wrote that sound works. You don't need more information. Hence your post was as much noise as mine was. That's why other people, or at least Andrey, was able to help, where as you were just a moron. Not to dig up this unpleasantness again, but there are some things I'd like to point out for future reference (for all people, including me, who will post questions with hopes of getting useful answers.) Nonetheless I shall try, so please provide the following: How nice from you, now that the problem has been solved. Yes, I'm aware that this particular problem has been solved, however I'd still like to highlight a few things about it. 1. the output of lspci as it relates to audio so we can see what hardware you have Why should that matter? After all, sound playback works (in other programs). It doesn't matter, but it's information people care about. It helps us to do our voodoo stuff and get back to you with an answer (it's quantity over quality at this point of the answering stage.) 2. What engine does rhythmbox use? gstreamer? If so, do other gstreamer apps work correctly on your box? That was the million dollar question. Great, and now you've noticed that Totem, another GStreamer program, isn't outputting sound. Therefore, instead of just blowing off the previous poster, you could actually include that information. 3. With what options did you compile rhythmbox and gstreamer (if applicable)? Does not matter. Actually, it does. Contrary to your belief that programs have the ability to read your mind and compile with all the flags they need to function in every foreseeable way, real world applications need flags. Posting them with your question allows for the quantity of answers to go down, while the quality of the remaining ones to improve greatly. Knowing from the beginning that you compiled GStreamer with -oss but not alsa would've helped greatly. 4. Lastly, this is out on left field, please confirm that rhythmbox is indeed using alsa and not oss Question 2 covers that. No, it doesn't. You just deferred your answer instead of actually confirming that the rhythmbox *engine* used either ALSA or OSS. Michael Not trying to start a flame war between anywhere here, but I'm just trying to make a point. Posting information, no matter how useless it may seem to you, helps us help you. For example, Hey group! My mplayer doesn't play sound! I get some generic error about the sound card not being available... Now, there are so many answers to that, and you will be frustrated because people will start touting their favourite software with things like, Mplayer sucks, use Songbird Songbird sucks, it's bloated, use Rhythmbox! Rhythmbox is buggy, use Amarok! Amarok is KDE based, I hate KDE and everything that's based on it, Gnome rules! Then the slightly more useful questions start, Well, was mplayer compiled with the alsa USE flag? Do other applications play sound? Etc, etc. However, if you'd posted the original error along with your system information, we forgo all the unpleasant favouritism and instead, get strained answers that will actually help you solve the problem, keeping all parties [hopefully] happy! Hey group! My mplayer doesn't play sound? Here's my USE flags:xft xcomposite threads dbus libfreetype freetype firefox xulrunner dvdread lfreetype ftgl gtk X glx usb mplayer a52 hwac3 ac3 ldap GPAC gpac x264 mp4 mp3 mad madplay libmp3 ogg flac alsa oss png jpg jpeg selinux hal ffmpeg encode vorbis chroot opengl mysql tiff gnome kde 3dnow 3dnowext aac encode gif ftp mp2 v4l v4l2 httpd sdl sdl-image xvid xv cvidix -rdynamic -zlib Here's the output of 'mplayer awesomemusic.mp3' MPlayer dev-SVN-rUNKNOWN-4.1.2 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (Family: 15, Model: 43, Stepping: 1) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE SSE2 Playing Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around.mp3. Audio file file format detected. Clip info: Title: The awesomeness! Artist: Awesome band! Album: AWESOME! Year: 2008 Comment: Track: Genre: == Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3 AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 192.0 kbit/13.61% (ratio: 24000-176400) Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == [AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or
Re: [gentoo-user] To x86_64 or not to x86_64
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:20:39 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: Next thing I would never have thought of: the root file system was too small. I made it 500 MB bis, as /usr, /var, /opt, /tmp and /home are on LVM. A little small because of /root/.ccache, but I usually symlink that to somewhere else. You could set $CCACHE_DIR, which seems less kludgy to me. But why is /lib/modules larger than 300 MB? Because you have built your kernel with CONFIG_KITCHENSINK=m? % du -h /lib/modules/$(uname -r) 9.9M/lib/modules/2.6.24-tuxonice-r3 $ du -h /lib/modules/$(uname -r) 19M/lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo-r6 Hmmm, it's 22MB on my desktop, time to start pruning .config. % df -h / FilesystemTypeSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 reiserfs385M 189M 196M 50% / FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 9.9G 8.1G 1.3G 87% / That includes everything except /home. That includes /boot with two kernels. I haven't run into any significant problems with x86_64. To use flash and shockwave I just use wine and the windows version of Firefox, it works perfectly for me. Everything else I've tried either works, or has a suitable alternative that I don't mind using, but this rarely happens. -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which arch do I have ?
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: On February 12, 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: So, the only good reason to move to amd64 is when you buy a 64 bit machine I have 1G RAM and it's a laptop doesn't serve huge databases so I guess despite if my CPU is 64 or 32 bits, I'll just stick with the 32 version, works great... Agreed. You have no obvious benefits from a 64 bit arch. You also get to not have to struggle with flash wondering if it will work this time or not ;-) just a bit of personal experience: flash works beter using nspluginwrapper in 64bit mode because when it hangs - it's a simple as shooting it's wrapper process and not the entire FF. oh, and for whatever reason wine performs better under 64 bit OS rather than 32. Don't have any other proof then my own experience but Diablo LOD runs much smoother once I've rebuilt my system with 64bit with the same useflags and everything else. I would agree that wine does seem to run better on the 64bit arch. One other thing that I've noticed with a 64bit binary, specifically HandBrake, is that video encoding is *much* faster then it is with a 32bit binary. -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD 2008.Feb.08. minimal i686
Can I have a copy of the torrent? I have ~3Mbit up. -Hal Iain Buchanan wrote: On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 19:21 +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote: 2008. 02. 9, szombat keltezéssel 22.01-kor Iain Buchanan ezt írta: On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 21:22 +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote: Ladies and Gentleman, [snip] Please, do not kill my server with overload :) If somebody has a mirror, drop me a private mail. how about a torrent? Then everyone's a mirror ;) Thank you, yes, this is the next plan :) With few seeder it will be a good distribution basis. I will make it later. let me know when, and I'll seed it for you :) I only have 256k up but it's a start! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Interrogate network for devices
Perhaps you need a cross over cable between the modem and the router? -Hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the OT, but unable to raise anyone at comcast right now. I think I recall having read somewhere that one can do something to discover what devices are on a network (Home lan). And what there addresses are. I've recently switched from DSL to Cable connection but still have both working currently. I had assumed my netgear-firewall/router would find the Cable modem and be able to talk to it, but that isn't happening. I can connect the cable modem direct to a pc and using the software that comes with it establish a connection to the internet, but I wanted to have that firewall/router in between the cable modem and home pcs. But that is only on a windows machine. The help file that comes with the modem provides no information about how one talks to the modem. No ethernet address is supplied. However it is an ethernet device and connects to the pc with ethernet cable. Apparently comcast felt it wiser to provide no details and let its software do the connecting. But can't I learn the IP address (inward facing) of the modem? The IP from outside is of course visible to ipconfig, when connecting to internet from a windows machine thru the cable modem, but I see nothing that indicates what its lanside ethernet address is. Its obviously connecting to the pc with dhcp so setting the netgear to listen for dhcp seemed like it should work... but doesn't. I thought I would be able to connect to the cable modem with a browser and maybe learn enough to make the netgear router/firewall connect to it, or one of my gentoo boxes, so have tried a few of the semi-standard addresses other ethernet hubs/routers etc default to, like 192.168.0.1, 192.168.1.1 and a few more. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD 2008.Feb.08. minimal i686
Any chance there will be an x86_64 CD? -Hal Pongracz Istvan wrote: 2008. 02. 8, péntek keltezéssel 21.35-kor Erik ezt írta: Pongracz Istvan skrev: Before somebody starts a new email-war, I want to tell you, I know, this kind of nearly-official live install CD is not really necessary to install a new gentoo system. It is necessary for us using less common keyboard layouts. The official Gentoo CD I used to install over 3 years ago included support for Swedish keyboard layout. Knoppix left that out to have space for some cruft, so Knoppix is really just for users with the more common layouts (English, German, Russian and a few more). I do not think that this problem was mentioned in the recent email-war. Hi, thank you for your mail, this is great! Here are 42 layouts. Anyway, I had problems to compile some packages (rtppoe or similar and some others). I left them out. Sorry about that. István -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)
Emerge recommends that you run 'etc-update' and 'revdep-rebuild' after updating. -Hal maxim wexler wrote: Don't forget: etc-update, revdep-rebuild tools. HTH. Rumen At the end of an emerge process I saw two recommendations: etc-update and ?-update. The exact name escapes me and I can't find it in the logs. It seems pretty significant with 100+ updates pending. Do you recall the full name? Maxim Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pam fixed now it's tcpdump
Re-emerge shadow and you should be able to login. After that you'll need to reinstall services like sshd that have files in /etc/pam.d/ -Hal maxim wexler wrote: Did you log out and back in again first? Well, I just did and now I can't log back on. I enter my user name, hit enter and it doesn't even ask for my password, just says login incorrect, repeats that two times and says my three chances are up. PAM was emerged but maybe it wasn't activated, or is that supposed to be automatic? I'll have to chroot back into gentoo but after that I don't have a clue. Reporting via an XP box. mw Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pam upgrade issue
maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, Now emerge -uD world barfs at pam-0.99 and directs me to http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/pam/upgrade-0.99.xml Yeah, that guide is useless. I'm assuming that you're trying to update PAM from 0.99.8.1-r1 to 0.99.9.0? Here, among other things, it says to edit certain files, but it doesn't say which ones? Unless it means all of the ones under /etc/pam.d/ I checked several of them and none mentions pam_stack.so It mentions two new packages pam_userdb and pam_chroot. 'cd /etc/pam.d/' 'grep pam_chroot *' 'grep 'pam_userdb *' If that doesn't come up with anything, then do this (probably not right, but it worked for me): 'mv /etc/pam.d /etc/pam.d.0.99.8.1-r1' 'mkdir /etc/pam.d' 'emerge -av pam shadow' 'revdep-rebuild' And then after that you have to re-emerge all the applications at have auth files in /etc/pam.d. Probably gonna be (at least) cron, cups, cvs, login, passwd, shadow (already done...), sshd, sudo, and possibly more. Speaking of which, if you can't get to root, you're going to have to do this from a liveCD. Also, I would suggest popping in the Gentoo channel on Freenode, there are some very helpful people there. Doesn't say to emerge them but I tried nonetheless. Attempts to emerge them fail with the same notice for both of them: * Your current setup is using the pam_stack module. * This module is deprecated and no longer supported, and since version * 0.99 is no longer installed, nor provided by any other package. * The package will be built (to allow binary package builds), but will * not be installed. * Please replace pam_stack usage with proper include directive usage, * following the PAM Upgrade guide at the following URL * http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/pam/upgrade-0.99.xml * I took a chance and unmerged the deprecated pam and now I can't su and probably other stuff I don't know about yet. Yeah, time for a LiveCD. Probably not the right way of doing it, but then again, there is no firmly documented right way since I forgot to take notes! . -Hal Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] RAM upgrade, kernel and swap
Well this machine supposedly supports up to 8GB of RAM so I can only assume that it doesn't map the pci-space to there. But I wonder, will enabling the higher RAM limit really open up more RAM? The BIOS detects all 4096MB, but Grub only lists 3.6GB. AFAIK your machine can only use as much RAM as the bootloader detects, no? -Hal Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2008, Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote: That's the problem. For one thing to work, you have to sacrify other(s). and AFAIR the option won't help you, if your maiboards bios maps pci-space at the 3,6GB-4GB range. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list You're absolutely right about that. My machines as 64-bits and I don't even have that ammount of RAM, but I disable that bios option, anyway. -- Ricardo Saffi Marques Laboratório de Administração e Segurança de Sistemas (LAS/IC) Universidade Estadual de Campinas (UNICAMP) Cell: +55 (19) 8128-0435 Skype: ricardo_saffi_marques Website: http://www.rsaffi.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge error
If you need another firewall in the interim, I would suggest giving IPCop a try. I've been using it as a gateway OS for 5 years now and it's been solid for the entire time. Or, if you'd really rather stick with Gentoo, you could run IPCop on another of your K6 machines until you rebuild the Gentoo one. -Hal Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:08:00 + (UTC), James wrote: No, because it will copy the corruption too. You'll end up with a byte for byte copy of your broken filesystem. If fsck won't fix it, backup, reformat, restore is the only safe fix. If I reboot, I *may* loose the firewall completely, depending on what the drive does. The only safe thing is to build another firewall before rebooting the current firewall (then see if fsck will fix it)... Then don't reboot. Mount another drive somewhere temporary, copy the contents of /var to it, then unmount /var and mount the new drive on /var. Reformat the original filesystem and reverse the process. Either way, once I build a new firewall, I'm going to copy it to CF and be done with these old ide drives. Use a suitable filesystem, or the flash memory will die very quickly, especially if you put /var on it. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] RAM upgrade, kernel and swap
Ahh, but it won't last... $ free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 20598242044512 15312 0 37636 50868 -/+ buffers/cache: 1956008 103816 Swap: 428930812290243060284 Now this I can live with... $ free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 36298323499156 130676 0 566443070796 -/+ buffers/cache: 3717163258116 Swap:0 0 0 Unfortunately that machine is 32bit and thus only supports ~3.6GB of the 4GB of RAM. :-( -Hal Michael Higgins wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:44:53 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Montag, 21. Januar 2008, Michael Higgins wrote: So, I just got 2 GB of RAM in the mail. Whoo hoo. Before I pop these in, soliciting any thoughts about the following: zcat /proc/config.gz |grep MEM CONFIG_SHMEM=y # CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y # CONFIG_DISCONTIGMEM_MANUAL is not set # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set CONFIG_FLATMEM=y CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y # CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_STATIC is not set CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set # CONFIG_INPUT_FF_MEMLESS is not set # CONFIG_DEBUG_HIGHMEM is not set CONFIG_HAS_IOMEM=y NameFlags Part Type FS Type [Label] Size (MB) --- --- hda1BootPrimary Linux ext2 256.50 hda2Primary Linux swap / Solaris 1024.46 hda3Primary Linux ext3 21480.44 hda5Logical Linux ReiserFS 28771.84 hda6 Logical Linux ReiserFS 28493.15 IOW, do I need to/should I recompile my kernel or change partition sizes? if you don't plan to try suspend-to-disk. No even if you plan to try suspend-to-disk it might work with a swapfile. So still no. Thanks for the feedback. I figured I'd be covered with the setup as it is, but you never know... unless you know. This thing never sleeps... so no worries there. Anyway, I just popped 'em in: $ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 2074548 1660481908500 0 6812 77284 -/+ buffers/cache: 819521992596 Swap: 1000432 01000432 [ Nice. I like that last line a lot. ] Cheers, -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
IF the BIOS gives you the option of changing the RAM timings, I would make them all as large as they can go (slowest timings for RAM.) I'm assuming that your RAM timing is done by default now, and while that is right most of the time, you can't go wrong with setting them up manually. If memtest passes with the slowest timings, then I would tighten them until memtest makes it barf up ATARI and then back off until you reach a stable area. Another way to do this is to look on the side of your RAM and see if it lists the timings. If it does, great, set the timings to those manually in the BIOS, if it doesn't, refer to previous guess and check method. -Hal Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:33:04 -0600 (CST), list-catcher wrote: I just bought a via vb7001 Good luck with getting the CN700 graphics to work stably :( -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Via vb70001 mini-itx vrs Gentoo
Hmm, I find that surprising, especially since the new $200 PC at Sprawl-Mart is based on their C7 processor. Although I have heard many issues with trying to get certain, additional, items to work with the gPC. The main one being no modem... I once owned a motherboard based on a VIA chipset, worst thing ever... So I got rid of that and went for a board with an NVidia chipset :) -Hal Neil Walker wrote: Hal Martin wrote: IF the BIOS gives you the option of changing the RAM timings, It's got nothing to do with RAM timings and everything to do with the fact that VIA couldn't care less about Linux users. One thing I have learned in th last few months is don't touch VIA with a bargepole. My VIA-based laptop went in the bin and I am now enjoying the luxury of an Intel-based laptop with nVidia graphics. :) Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram
An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots with the new RAM only. Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any. I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test. -Hal Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +, José Pedro Saraiva wrote: I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM, How? Have you run memtest? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?
He states on his blog that he currently works for E*Trade, a company specializing in electronic ticker tape services for individuals and corporations. -Hal Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although he works for Microsoft, Daniel is the one who created this project. He doesn't work for Microsoft any longer. Check Wikipedia or Google for relevant news. Cheers, Renat -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
I installed Gentoo from inside Ubuntu 6.10 (my previous system) through chroot. This was because I couldn't use a LiveCD as I have an AMD64 based system. Knoppix and many other LiveCDs are 32bit, as that is currently what a majority of computers out there are. So, unless you can point me to a 64bit LiveCD that isn't some alternate version of a binary distribution I believe we still need a Gentoo install CD. Some people's arguments are that we should rely on other LiveCDs to build a Gentoo system as this will give the devs more time to work on things that they feel are more important. I would agree with them normally, but I'd rather download one CD that contains all the stuff I need than download a Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora/Mandriva LiveCD (all of those distributions provide a 64bit LiveCD) and the stage tarball. Sure, if you're on a 32bit system, any LiveCD will work well for building a Gentoo system. However, if you happen to be one of the growing number of people who have purchased a 64bit system (such as an AMD Athlon, Opteron, or an Intel Pentium D (some models), Pentium Dual core (E21xx series), Core 2 Duo/Quad, or a Xeon system) and want to run Gentoo 64bit, your install options are suddenly very limited. Just my two cents. -Hal Martin Michael Schmarck wrote: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete. Well, but providing outdated (ie. non-usable for new systems) install medium is also very bad. And if the installer doesn't work (satisfactory), then that gives an even worse impression. Michael Schmarck -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?)
I'll keep that in mind when I am sending email to the list from Thunderbird. I'm also aware that many corporations block HTML mail to lower the risk of a staff member opening up an infected/laced email (generally on a Windows computer) so text emails are more advantageous in that regard. Randy, why aren't you out here making sure everyone's mom is aware of all the thread hijacking going on? -Hal Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Dale wrote: Qian Qiao wrote: I'm sorry this goes OT Dale, but unfortunately, my mail client cannot render html messages properly, and I trust a lot of people on the list have the same problem. If would be nice if you can post in plain text, at least in this list. Thanks I have it set to send it text for this domain. Is it not sending in plain text? I have the same settings for other mailing lists as well. Thanks for pointing it out if it is not sending plain text tho. It's sent multipart, so the pure text can be used alone for users like Qian Qiao. That's how I've set up my kmail (I can view it as html if I wish) To be honest, it's not really a big deal for a list like this. The text is 492 bytes, the html is 867 bytes and the whole thing is 4.5k In other words, the text and html *together* are still smaller than the headers :-) True, but I do try to go with the flow here. I use Seamonkey for my email. I went to Edit and Preferences then chose Send formats. I place gentoo.org in the text only section. What else can I do to make sure it sends it correctly? I do prefer to send it text only since some do use some strange email programs. Thanks Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Update After A Year
It's been much less than a year since I've updated last, however I'm experiencing problems updating my system. First off, I have Gentoo 2007.0 installed on an AMD64 X2 3800+ (SMP kernel.) I cannot upgrade PAM from 0.99.8.1-r1 to 0.99.9.0. The output of trying to do so is the following: emerge pam Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild Manifests... Emerging (1 of 1) sys-libs/pam-0.99.9.0 to / * Linux-PAM-0.99.9.0.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ...[ ok ] * checking Linux-PAM-0.99.9.0.tar.bz2 ;-) ...[ ok ] * * Your current setup is using one or more of the following modules, * that are not built or supported anymore: * pam_pwdb, pam_radius, pam_timestamp, pam_console * If you are in real need for these modules, please contact the maintainers * of PAM through http://bugs.gentoo.org/ providing information about its * use cases. * Please also make sure to read the PAM Upgrade guide at the following URL: * http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/pam/upgrade-0.99.xml * 'emerge --search pam' returns the following (I'm only going to include the actual listing for pam, and not all the other stuff it lists to keep the list short) * sys-libs/pam Latest version available: 0.99.9.0 Latest version installed: 0.99.8.1-r1 Size of files: 887 kB Homepage: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ Description: Linux-PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) License: PAM I've followed the Linux-PAM upgrade guide, which didn't mention what to do in the event that those modules were used. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/pam/upgrade-0.99.xml There is a forum discussion on this matter, however none of the modules appear in /etc/pam.d/ files... I don't know enough about PAM and Gentoo to know if running a PAMless system would cause problems, I have been using linux for a while, but I am relatively new to Gentoo (and yes, I realize that PAM is not exclusive to Gentoo...) I've tried the #gentoo channel on FreeNode and after an hour of asking and waiting, was unable to receive an answer. Any help would be appriciated. Thanks! Hal Martin Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:57:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Generally you can just emerge -uND world and we done with it. But life isn't always so simple. I can think of a few updates in the last while that were problematic, but I think they were all more than a year ago: The expat upgrade was less than a year ago for stable systems. I'd go with emerge -auvDN system and check the output carefully before opting to proceed. I'd also make sure that ELOG is correctly set up in make.conf so you don't miss any important massages. After updating system, it would be prudent to run revdep-rebuild before moving onto the rest of world. emerge -e is pointless, portage is quite capable of determining what needs to be updated, and reemerging everything just creates noise and confusion that could make it harder to deal with any potential problems.
Re: [gentoo-user] Incredibly slow disk access
I have a Western Digital 250GB SATA-II drive on an NForce4 integrated SATA-II controller, here are my readings... hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i dma DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6 /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 1646 MB in 2.00 seconds = 823.19 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 172 MB in 3.03 seconds = 56.77 MB/sec Machine is an Athlon X2 3800+ running Gentoo 2007.0 AMD64 A Western Digital 500GB SATA-II drive, connected through a SATA-I PCI card on another Gentoo box reports: hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep -i dma DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 udma6 DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization /dev/sda: Timing cached reads: 312 MB in 2.01 seconds = 155.28 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 162 MB in 3.02 seconds = 53.65 MB/sec The onboard Maxtor 60GB IDE drive reports: hdparm -I /dev/hda | grep -i dma DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 /dev/hda: Timing cached reads: 312 MB in 2.01 seconds = 155.17 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 76 MB in 3.05 seconds = 24.88 MB/sec Machine is a Dell PowerEdge 350, PIII server running Gentoo 2007.0 i386. I'm curious, is your optical drive also SATA? If it's not, then how do you intend to access it without ATA/ATAPI drivers? -Hal Dale wrote: Wayn0 wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: If you have sata drives, and they are showing up as hdx, you have something seriously misconfigured. They should be showing as sdx. Deselect everything in ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL and select the relevant boxes in serial ATA. Dont forget fstab will need redoing to match. I always thought that if you select both, serial ata should take precedence, and in some cases you can access via both, but I have at least one machine that will only work as sata with all the older ata stuff deselected. BillK Thanks Bill, removing all the ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL stuff sorted it out. :-) Wayn0 Would you mind posting what speeds you get now? I'm curious myself. Thanks Dale :-) :-)
