Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [slightly OT] Pocket Putty or similar
To use connectbot on your g1 do you need to gain root access? On Apr 28, 2009 10:52 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:42:33 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I've heard good things about Conne... I use that on my G-1 and it's pretty good. -- Neil Bothwick Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
On 2008-01-13 16:29:15 (+), Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:53:48 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote: You also need the handbook, a portage snapshot and a stage tarball. How many live CDs provide these? None. But the portage snapshot is best fetched from the web anyway, as far as I'm concerned. Same with the handbook, as it may contain (theoritcal) up-to-the minute corrections. So, the portage snapshot and handbook don't have to on the Live CD. No, but it's a lot easier if they are when doing a networkless install. I think that's what the whole discussion here is about. Should Gentoo become an elite meta-distro or do we actually want 'less then ultimate geek' people using it. A lot of the very verbal people over here seem to want the former. I agree that Gentoo shouldn't become an Ubuntu like distro, but the minimal install cd is, at least for me, a requirement. If there's too much work for the current devs then they should do something about it. After the whole p.g.o mess a lot of people, including myself, offered to become a dev. But I'm still awaiting replies from 3-4 herds. The whole discussion going on over here has a much deeper cause, lack of leadership. Every dev does what seems best for him or his herd, but the bigger whole seems to be lacking a lot. And I'm affraid that untill deeper problems are solved, Gentoo will keep losing users and more important, keep losing credability. Regards, Ken -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is webmin a good thing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I am looking for system admin tools to replace the laborious -- and sadly error-prone -- manual editing I've been using up to now. I've got a Gentoo and an Ubuntu system to administer, both of which are essentially single-user desktops. I worry a bit about tools that mangle existing configurations, or anything else that might go wrong that I haven't thought of yet. So, is anyone using webmin? What's the verdict on this product? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD I've dabbled with webmin and it does seem fairly stable at what it does. I got shorewall and logrotate up fairly quickly using it; it also let me get a cronjob up really quick without manually mucking around. Lately though I have been editing everything manually with vim rather than using webmin.I'd give it a try and see if you like it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGjm/70PM4px2/kjgRAmMKAJ9JSqy1WgjY/4Ix1Cgcwq4VpCV7jgCffBbX a7eOTYWVIoiUle4JoZVDbKA= =yVys -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is webmin a good thing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: snip Thanks for the feedback. It happens shorewall is the very next thing I want to tackle. Is there anything by way of advice worth giving? I need to find a tutorial to tell me what zones are and so on. snip ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD I simply followed this guide: http://www.shorewall.net/shorewall_quickstart_guide.htm Specifically I followed the standalone guide as I just have one computer that needed a firewall. Zones btw are just like destinations. For example my config has 2 zones: fw and net. fw being the machine itself and net being the outside world (the internet). The guide should be enough, but if you need help just ask! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGjoq00PM4px2/kjgRAuZCAJ9oLd1A4n0+A2zrD2mBdHvbIEh+pgCeO70i 6ksce2uvE0bvQveGjgeSzho= =iFai -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help me reboot X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 6/18/07, *Neil Bothwick* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 21:16:58 -0400, Ken wrote: If you have physical access to the machine and have support for the Magic SysRq built into your kernel, you can kill the X server by pressing ALT + SysRq + K. This will kill all processes running on the current terminal. If you are accessing via SSH, you can still use this with echo k /proc/sysrq-trigger Nice. However, I'm still wondering -- neither of my keyboards has a keytop labelled sysreq. What is it? ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD It's the PrintScreen key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGdsTt0PM4px2/kjgRAklSAJwImm7vbI6Lq3F7zBNG4/sYeh4VIwCeKOdS rid/NxIHpobjbFEg4KkboIM= =H7WB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo in the workplace
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sartorelli, Jason wrote: Hi there, This is possibly already answered elsewhere, however I've trolled through google to no avail. I've upgraded my work machine from a Windows 2000 machine to Gentoo (running on a Dell GX520) with VMware running XP, Vista, 2000. Most things run fine, but unfortunately I've had a few problems with things such as Active X pages (i.e. Cisco Call Manager, Infra, etc). I've tried using wine (version 0.9.29) and installing IE however I couldn't find the full installer and we use a proxy here (the installer craps out when trying to set it up within the installer) So I installed ieslinux and tried that - it seems to work and lets me load some pages however they don't all load correctly... infect the majority don't... So I unmasked wine with the x86 keyword and tried both options again with the same results for the first option and ieslinux getting to the same place and stopping (but with text visibility bugs) and so I've now reverted back to wine 0.9.29 and am officially stuck. Firefox doesn't seem to support Active X at all, however there was a plugin for v1.5 which I tried and didn't have any luck with. I've heard you can copy across a entire system32 folder and get wine working better, is this true? I'm a member of transgaming (Cedega) is this worth trying? (Internet Explorer wasn't listen in their database) There are other bugs and issues I'm trying to nut out (like a virtual OS X install, i support Macs unfortunately as part of my role), but at the moment getting ActiveX going is the most critical (as I'm using my old machine or virtuals to do allot of my work) Any thoughts/comments/miracles/donuts or donations would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Jason Sartorelli IE will never work in wine. I don't believe the devs plan to support it either. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGcK9n0PM4px2/kjgRAgoUAKCBu0JbNQ4oYBLs+INNPoZB2vovmQCfeyFf TOgGKyRq5rxifF4TOPBzvYA= =acRY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] maintaining package.keywords
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! Is there an automatism to inform me that a package has become stable, so I can remove it from package.keywords? I often need to add a package there, tvbrowser for example needed 24 more masked packages. But after a while they become stable (tvbrowser now only needs 5 unstable packages), and a world update would give me the next unstabe version. What do you do about it? Alex Running eix -T may help. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGbap50PM4px2/kjgRAhzmAJwMUT5AMiK37//Xg0OzadhKwYiU2ACfQsOv ZXf1O3Jxcn0qCIWdbi2nAAk= =ALMY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wha' hoppen to firestarter?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On 6/5/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin O'Gorman wrote: snip That helps some, but in net-firewall I'm finding a lot of unstable packages, and no really good idea which ones will be the best for a personal firewall, let alone which ones are best supported upstream so this doesn't happen to me again. So I'm interested in recommendations. What did you switch to? ++ kevin I never used firestarter, but I have used and would recommend shorewall. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZr6s0PM4px2/kjgRAs8OAJ0XIDfA21OfMSsbGJxttO73yq2P2QCgiRbl kSZqw3JMxdfxSb0dKkx9aLk= =8N8n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Denis wrote: What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player? I really liked the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage. Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more fragile. I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on start-up... ) I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a command-line player. Thanks. I gotta give a recommendation for Amarok. It is a kde package so it might not be what you had in mind, but it is a great music player. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZH2D0PM4px2/kjgRApkBAJ4nQYt5XRfuvQUynFq/KKXazEyz7ACff/PC ZKgIadtb4RG0kmODTpLLzvk= =e1py -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Farrell wrote: On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:00:51 -0400 Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Denis wrote: What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player? I really liked the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage. Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more fragile. I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on start-up... ) I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a command-line player. Thanks. I gotta give a recommendation for Amarok. It is a kde package so it might not be what you had in mind, but it is a great music player. Amarok is feature-rich, but heavy indeed. I don't recommend it for a drop-in XMMS replacement. If you like the idea of editing mp3 tags and organzing your music really nicely, browsing it 3 different ways and seeing cover art from amazon.com and such, amarok is for you. But if you like xmms, maybe before you try to find more alternatives you'll consider trying to compile and install it from downloaded sources, manually. What about XMMS2? It's not in portage but I thought it was designed to fix all the flaws of the original XMMS. I have not tried it so I can't say for sure if its even remotely the same as the old XMMS. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZJl50PM4px2/kjgRAi7gAJ4jHqtY3AC3jV0kcOf6eY7f9UL2CgCdHXjU EtKc0bAlLsK914QckPqcsXs= =hMaq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Message at bootup about superblock last write time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 »Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that every time my system reboots, I get the following message... * Checking root filesystem ... /dev/hda1: Superblock last write time is in the future. FIXED. I get this also. I've always thought it's because my system time is local instead of UTC. Sounds like clock skew. Do you use anything like ntp to set the time automatically? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGZNLg0PM4px2/kjgRAr1sAJ4lCr3Q6QP6kJI4Czuqcr2DiFDxuQCcDgvf QXJFEiIttsXmeN7zb0mS7lE= =xRyN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help me reboot X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: From time to time my X server will lock up, usually but not always while I'm editing something in ooffice. It's always something that's pretty heavily graphical. When this happens, the only thing that still works on my desktop is mouse motion. No clicks actually register, and even the three-finger salutes (BS and DEL) are feckless. However, I can SSH into the machine from elsewhere and pretty much do anything else I want. I usually have to reboot the machine, because I haven't figured out how to restart X in gentoo. I'm sure it's pretty simple, but I can't seem to find documentation on this particular thing and it's not like the usual init.d services. Lots on startup, a bit on shutdown, but nothing I see is about restart. When this happens, sometimes X is using 100% of one of the CPU's, but I don't always check and haven't recently verified my impression that sometimes all CPU's are at an idle (I have 4 hyperthreads). Can somebody help me stop and restart X? I'm using kdm for login. If you have physical access to the machine and have support for the Magic SysRq built into your kernel, you can kill the X server by pressing ALT + SysRq + K. This will kill all processes running on the current terminal. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGY2gK0PM4px2/kjgRAuHkAJsHNoreMVfLQ+O9N8Nd9WFbzs5lHwCfZLZl lU7uNnnTQjLNFCK3kANELgo= =fSzd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] off topic : Dolphin massacre in Japan
Agg wrote: on 02/26/2007 12:29 AM Agg wrote the following: on 02/25/2007 11:50 PM Dale wrote the following: Agg wrote: on 02/25/2007 11:12 PM Dale wrote the following: Agg wrote: on 02/24/2007 07:51 PM Mantas Povilaitis wrote the following: It seems some people just cant miss an opportunity to flame and whine about spam (and it wasted like 5 s of my oh so important life OMG, OMFG!!!) and write pseudo-humorous juvenile nonsenses. OP at least wrote something meaningful while all other of you Responsible mailing list users writing every little topic into its little proper mailing list just continue writing total nonsenses. All those that replied wouldn't reply if it were an actual spam. An off-topic is not necessarily spam. And that's exactly the specific case. Then exactly what does this have to do with Gentoo, Linux or even a computer? *Nothing*. It was written on the subject: *off-topic*:... OK then. I'm going to start selling Viagra. I'll just put off-topic in the subject line and it will be OK. ;-) Doesn't make sense to you either now huh? You don't have to look at the contents of a post that you think is spam. But in the specific dolphin massacre case, those that look at it's contents, will see that it is *not* about viagra or the like, and so, in that case it's just off-topic. Let me add though, that in your case, not having looked at it, will always remain spam. Simple as that. Agg, like in Aggelos? the dude or dudette that caused this spamtrap? Suggestion: off topic = not for this mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] alsa-driver
Hi fellow Gentoo users, Today I updated my working alsa-driver to version 1.0.14_rc4 and when I restart /etc/init.d/alsasound I get following error: # modules-update -f /etc/init.d/alsasound restart * Updating /etc/modules.conf ... [ ok ] * Updating /etc/modprobe.conf ... [ ok ] * Updating modules.dep ... [ ok ] * Service alsasound stopping * WARNING: you are stopping a boot service. /usr/sbin/alsactl: save_state:1253: No soundcards found... [ !! ] * Service alsasound stopped * Service alsasound starting FATAL: Error inserting snd_intel8x0 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r6/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [ !! ] ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers * Service alsasound started But there (obviously) is no sound... So I tried rebooting to ensure proper reinsertion of the modules. This was no avail. The dmesg output (referred to by the error) is: snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_free_irq snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_pci_quirk_lookup snd_intel8x0: Unknown symbol snd_request_irq Reverting back to the previous version fixes the sound once again. Any advice? Kind Regards -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Error when trying to emerge --update --deep --newuse world
Hi, Just update your kernel to the latest version, and that will probably pull udev in with it. I don't know if you can just install udev, but the atom is called udev, not udev-103 Regards Shawn Singh schreef: Hey all, I installed Gentoo 2006.1. I ran either: emerge-webrsync // because I can't rsync through my company's firewall or emerge --update --deep world ... it revealed that I need portage needed updating ... so I: emerge portage ... I also installed mysql, php, apache and mediawiki. Mediawiki required me to set pcre mysql and session in my USE ... I only need to add mysql the other 2 were already there. After installing that software I wanted to update my system, so I ran emerge --update --deep --newuse world ... here's the info ... Error: the sys-apps/coldplug package conflicts with another package; the two packages cannot be installed on the same system together. ... I then did ... emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse world output_file followed by: grep blocks output_file [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-103) I can't emerge: sys-fs/udev-103 or udev-103 b/c that's not a valid package atom ... What do I need to do to resolve this? This installation is for a VM that I'm preparing for use at work. Currently I've got a standalone machine that this will be replacing ... that machine is running 2006.0. I've not tried to update it yet, and wanted to wait until I've migrated my mediawiki install from that 2006.0 machine to the new machine. Thanks, Shawn Most problems go away if you just wait long enough. It might look like I'm standing motionless but I'm actively waiting for our problems to go away. I don't know why this works but it does. Scott Adams, Dilbert comic -- Secretaris PR SIN -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Disk going a lot slower now...
I would assume that the two benchmark programs I am using to measure the drive performance under windows go through windows, and thus the NTFS interface. They are Dr. Hardware and FreshDiagnose. The second one showed a write speed as quoted above, and a read speed of about 280 MB per second... Though the same one reported a read speed of about 900+ MB per second for my USB drive (not really possible, since the maximum speed for USB 2.0 is about 480 MB / second). Hi Chris, A more realistic speed for a HD is about 60-90MB/second... It's hardware limited. So your values are quite off, regardless of the OS and the filesystem. Greets Glider -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge -e world stop at ncruses no error
I just updated to gcc4.0.2 went ok did emerge -e system went good then updated portage now I trying to do emerge -e world it start off ok till it get to ncurses start off in that ok, but then stop go back to the prompt no error no noting to tell me what going on, before this I remove some blockage faad2 xpdf anyone know what up on this? Powered by Gentoo Linux Anything free is worth saving up for-Shadow the cat __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
