Re: [gentoo-user] Re: hal - what's the benefit of using it
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: The benefit for me is that I plug my USB flash stick in my PC and it pops up in my desktop without me needing to enter voodoo console commands to mount it. +1 That and... this is my xorg.conf : Section Module Loadglx EndSection Section Device Identifier Default Device Driver nvidia Option NoLogo EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen DefaultDepth24 EndSection Good luck in having that minimalist xorg.conf without hal.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4.2 compile problem
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jerry McBride mcbrid...@comcast.net wrote: If you need more info, feel free to email me direct. why? off-list communications should only be done with off-topic conversations. If you have a solution for him, you should share it with the list so others can find solutions to similar problems. regards
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: optimized for your system -- huh?
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: AFAICT, the performance benefit due to compiler optimization is practically nil in real-world usage. It used to make a difference, but not anymore with today microprocessors. In my experience the huge benefit of source-based distros such as Gentoo is elimination of the library dependency-hell that mires other binary-based distros. maybe redhat had that problem, but others (debian based distros for example) doesn't have dep hell AFAICS (I run Debian and Ubuntu based servers and desktops) The second benefit is that with Gentoo, upgrading a system actually works over the long-run. With RedHat/Mandrake, things would gradually deteriorate to the point where the system was unmaintainable, Same point. Maybe only a problem with RH. The third main benefit I've seen is that there are vastly more packages available for Gentoo. Hm.. Depends on what packages you're interested. You have no commercial support if you run Gentoo from -for example- VMware. Putting together and maintaining an ebuild appears to take a lot less work than putting together and maintaining a binary RPM package. Maybe. I haven't tried to make a RPM package, but I tried DEB. It's almost as easy as with Gentoo. Are the real benefits of Gentoo too hard to explain to the unwashed masses, so instead they're told the fairy tale about imporoved performance? Gentoo has -from my point of view- only one benefit: if you're a developer, you'll love Gentoo as every dev-dependency is already installed. Other than that, I see none. Now, if Gentoo devs could be as kind as -for example- Ubuntu devs, that would rock. But they aren,t and so -after 7 years- I'm looking for another distro to migrate to. Kubuntu is one of my favorites. I'm testing Fedora and openSuSE. Who will win? Gentoo just doesn't make sense anymore for me - unless you're a masochist :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple ISPs into a Gentoo box
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone put something like that together? Yes. Can I make use of the combined bandwidth and not just the redundancy? Hm. If I understand you correctly, then no. You can't. But you can -for example- use one link or the other based on source ip address. At work, we have one ISP for everyone, and one ISP for emergency (iso downloads, etc) So, if source IP is 192.168.10.11 (mine) I route the traffic via the emergency link and voila: I have 5Mbps for myself :) Or you can route based on destination IP, or let the router decide which link to use. I found some Ubuntu docs here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-521386.html Maybe you'll find this link interesting: http://lartc.org Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote: I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting the following: You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least) Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days ago.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When did bzImage move?
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sonntag 01 Februar 2009, Geralt wrote: Nobody here using the genkernel package to build his kernel? I'm using it all the time, makes initramfs creation so much easier :-) who needs an initramfs? Me of course! I have root on lvm, so I need one. To Geralt, yes. I use genkernel.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote: On Sunday 01 February 2009 15:40:29 Norberto Bensa wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote: I have KDE 3.5 and 4.1 installed and am trying to upgrade to 4.2. I'm getting the following: You'll need kde-3.5.10 (or kdebase-startkde at least) Look in the archives, a similar question was posted a few days ago. Thanks for your response. I did search the archives and did not find anything relevant. I saw and read a thread where a block was occurring: =kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10 is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0 It wasn't clear to me that this was the same problem, since that block referenced a 3.5.10 package and mine referenced a 3.5.9 package. since the block is: =kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10 is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.0 and 3.5.9 = 3.5.10, then yes, the mail applies to you You'll need kdebase-startkde 3.5.10 (3.5.10-r5 is available in portage) However, upgrading to 3.5.10 raises another issue. For 3.5, I didn't install the meta package, I installed the KDE base package: Uhm... Do you mean monolitich (base) vs. modules (meta)? 3.5.10 is available under the meta package system but not under the KDE package. Do I have to switch to the meta package to go to 3.5.10? (Without, that is, manually unblocking lots and lots of packages.) Can I simply install the meta package over the base package or will that create blocks or other issues? I don't know. Perhaps another user can answer that question. I moved to modules as soon as it was made available. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2 and 3.5
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Daniel D Jones ddjo...@riddlemaster.org wrote: Uh, someone's confused here. It may very well be me but I'm not following you at all. The other post concerned startkde blocking kdelibs. Yes. I'm sorry. You're using monolithic KDE. I don't remember if startkde was part of kdebase. Maybe that's where your problem is. My block is kdebase 3.5 blocking kdelibs 4.2. There's no mention of startkde bocking anything on my system. So I don't follow why you're telling me that I need startkde 3.5.10. My bad. I'm sorry. Neil says you'll need to remove kde and emerge kde-meta. Follow his advice. Regards, Norberto
[gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?
Hello list, I emerged KDE-4.2 (RC first, final now) and Phonon wasn't getting any backend. No video, no sound. After recompiling KDE-4.2 with -kdeprefix, I see both Xine and Gstreamer listed as backends. So the question is: is kdeprefix a deprecated/not recommended/broken/unsupported feature? I never needed more than one KDE version at the same time, but I like to have it separate from the rest of the system. Thanks, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Samstag 31 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello list, I emerged KDE-4.2 (RC first, final now) and Phonon wasn't getting any backend. No video, no sound. I have 4.2+kdeprefix and systemsettings show me the xine settings. Damn... So the question is: is kdeprefix a deprecated/not recommended/broken/unsupported feature? doesn't look like that. Ok. Thanks. Maybe there's something broken deeper in my box. I never needed more than one KDE version at the same time, but I like to have it separate from the rest of the system. me too. :-) Thanks Volker. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Samstag 31 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote:
Ok. Thanks. Maybe there's something broken deeper in my box.
which phonon related packages do you have installed?
zool...@venkman ~ $ eix -I phonon
[I] kde-base/phonon-kde
Available versions:
(4.2) (~)4.1.96[1] (~)4.2.0 (~)4.2.0[1]
(live) {M}**!t[1]
{debug kdeprefix}
Installed versions: 4.2.0(4.2)(01:46:55 AM 01/31/2009)(-debug -kdeprefix)
Homepage:http://phonon.kde.org
Description: Phonon KDE Integration
[I] media-sound/phonon
Available versions: (~)4.2.0!t (~)4.2.96[1] (~)4.3.0 (~)4.3.0[1]
{M}**[1] {debug gstreamer xcb xine}
Installed versions: 4.3.0(07:55:55 PM 01/27/2009)(gstreamer xcb
xine -debug)
Homepage:http://phonon.kde.org
Description: KDE multimedia API
[1] kde /usr/portage/local/layman/kde-testing
Found 2 matches.
Glück Auf,
Volker
Thanks :) (I had to ask my girlfirend what Glück Auf means :-) )
Regards,
Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] kdeprefix is broken?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: almost the same as on my box (except I have kdeprefix set and gstreamer disabled), yup.. strange. Don't worry. I'll keep searching. Thanks :) (I had to ask my girlfirend what Glück Auf means :-) ) I hope she gave you the correct answer ;) Good luck or something like that. Glück Auf, Volker Muchas gracias (spanish for Thank you very much), Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdeprefix is broken?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Norberto Bensa wrote: Hello list, I emerged KDE-4.2 (RC first, final now) and Phonon wasn't getting any backend. No video, no sound. After recompiling KDE-4.2 with -kdeprefix, I see both Xine and Gstreamer listed as backends. Hmm. I also don't have a list of back-ends. But sound works. Yes... I'm sorry. Sound actually works. Video doesn't. No backends listed. Try linking /usr/kde/4.2/lib64/kde4/ to /usr/lib/kde4/ and see if that works? I reemerged with -kdeprefix, I think I will leave this as it is for now. Thanks Nikos! Best regards, Norberto
[gentoo-user] emerge --sync kde-base/
Hello, I'm wondering. Is it posible to emerge --sync part of the tree. For example, I want to only sync kde-base/ and kde-misc/? Thanks in advance, Norberto
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge --sync kde-base/
Thanks NIck and AllenJB I just wanted kde-4.2 like in: hey! I want kde 4.2 and I want it right now! :-) Anyway, I already have it.
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Vizo Allman vizos...@gmail.com wrote: I keep getting this message when I run revdep-rebuild : emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy sys-devel/gcc:x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6 I have no idea how to begin to troubleshoot this. Any hints? what does emerge -p gcc:3.4 say?
Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config
Quoting Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net: Than he has a non solvable problem recovering his config. But, who will remove this option? Not remove, but someone (me for example) could make it =m ;-) In that case you just do: modprobe configs gunzip -c /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config make oldconfig This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com wrote: make oldconfig only can give you problems i don,t see any benefict.. just my person experience... I have never seen any problem with make oldconfig, YMMV, but stating it _will_ give you problems is simply not true.
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Mike Kazantsev mike_kazant...@fraggod.net wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:03:52 +0100 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: so, could you please answer mine now: why should pam be used in the first place on a usual server/desktop which has restricted access anyway? I find it useful to control user-based access to different services in one place, disallow remote access of any kind for local users. Oh, but as Volker has already said, 90% of the users don't care about that. Also it allows to use same credentials for pretty much anything - mounting LUKS-encrypted home dir at login (to any service) or using pgp keys, for example. LUKS-encrypted home dir!!?? 90% of the user don't know what's that! Wait a minute. 90%. Where have I seen that figure? 90%... 90%.. hmm Windows market share figures!!! See? Volker is right!!! 90% of the users don't care! I'm sorry Volker, don't kill me. I just couldn't resist :) Best regards everyone, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: But nevertheless you need to do a make odlconfig to adopt your .config to the new config options. Nope. That's not true. The diference between oldconfig and just make is that oldconfig will present a prompt when a new option was added. You could as well run menuconfig, and you'll see new options labeled with NEW, or something like that. If you just run make (without doing oldconfig or menuconfig first), then the new options will take the default build option. It may vary between Y and N depending on the module, developer, God, a photon coming out of some distant star, and the mood of a butterfly sitting in some flower on Japan. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: I am sorry to tell you that your computer is a redneck republican, and this is why it's crashing. AH HA HAAA!... I was drinking coffee when I read your comment. I just ruinned my LCD :( BTW: The video plays fine here. OMG! Look at how many digital cams are there! What are they going to do with all the mercury in those little screens?
Re: [gentoo-user] cnn.com flash videos crash firefox
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Do cnn.com videos *not* crash for anyone with the latest Firefox? Edit /etc/adobe/mms.cfg and set WindowlessDisable = 1 and see if that helps. +1 I was having the same problem now that I remember. The setting above fixed it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM, James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com wrote: I'm getting more than a little irritated with its attempts to interfere with my attempts to configuring any program with an optional PAM plugin. What's so bad/hard about pam that everyone wants to remove it? Maybe if you ask for directions you'll end up learning pam. Hiding the problem under the carpet pretending you're doing the right thing is not the best you can do.
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?
Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: What's so bad/hard about pam that everyone wants to remove it? what is so good/usefull about pam that one shall keep it? Doesn't asnwer the question. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:03 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: in the past pam breakage caused login trouble, In the past... Like when there's were not enough documentation or it was too cryptic? so, could you please answer mine now: why should pam be used in the first place on a usual server/desktop which has restricted access anyway? That was not your question. You redefined it, but I'll answer anyway: PAM helps you to have a stackable authentication system like: Kerberos LDAP Files If kerberos is available use it. If not, try ldap, and if that fails too, use files (passwd/shadow) Or you could combine the three methods!! (but you'll have to type up to three passwords) Or maybe you have a pendrive with a digital certificate you want to use to authenticate privileged users. What about biometrics (fingerprints, etc) combined with passwords and/or digital certificates? About security. I fail to see how removing PAM will magically make your system more secure.
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing PAM from my system, is it adviseable?
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: so nothing 90% of all users ever use or need. In a Linux only enrironmet? Yeah, perhaps. But what if you Linux box runs in a Windows domain? What if your users are stored in AD? if you don't use any of that 'stackable' stuff or other features and you remove pam, you don't have to worry about pam securtiy problems. When was the last time you've seen a SA about PAM? One of its plugins? I'm not saying PAM is absolutely secure, but removing it will not make your box more secure nor easier to configure. On the other hand, learning PAM has its benefits. Bye
Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Nick Cunningham n...@monkeydust.net wrote: 2009/1/21 Norberto Bensa nbe...@gmail.com I believe theres a qt-copy in the THE overlay, although i havent had a chance to confirm it. Yup. layman qting-edge has the set @qt-all-live-kde which is qt-copy from kde-svn. BTW, kde4.2rc doesn't work with qt-4.5beta1 (plasma crashes so there's no desktop). Don't try it at home kids! Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange dependency of kopete-3.5.9 on qt-4*
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: I suspect kopete-4.x got pulled into your emerge and it slipped past your radar. But then OP should see kdelibs-4 installed (?)
[gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets
Hello list, well. I couldn't resist and I emerged kde4.2 with something like this: sudo emerge @kdebase Now I want to upgrade Qt to 4.5beta but (see below) Is there any obvious way to solve this that can't see because it's 2AM and need some sleep or are @sets _evil_ ? And before you jump and tell me hey, just remove the packages and update Qt see this: $ sudo emerge -C kdm-4.1.96 Not unmerging package kde-base/kdm-4.1.96 as it is still referenced by the following package sets: kdebase Do I _really_ need to do emerge -C @kdebase!? sudo emerge @qt-all-4.5 Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-script-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2-r1] USE=gtkstyle%* -custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-svg-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.5.0_beta1 [4.4.2-r1] USE=-custom-cxxflags% [ebuild N] x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.0_beta1 USE=dbus pch -custom-cxxflags -debug [uninstall] kde-base/ktimezoned-4.1.96 [uninstall] kde-base/ark-4.1.96 [uninstall] kde-base/solid-4.1.96 [uninstall] kde-base/kopete-4.1.96 [uninstall] kde-base/kscd-4.1.96 [blocks B ] media-sound/phonon (media-sound/phonon is blocking x11-libs/qt-phonon-4.5.0_beta1) [blocks B ] x11-libs/qt-phonon:4 (x11-libs/qt-phonon:4 is blocking media-sound/phonon-4.2.96) [blocks B ] x11-libs/qt-phonon (x11-libs/qt-phonon is blocking kde-base/kquitapp-4.1.96, kde-base/kdedglobalaccel-4.1.96, kde-base/kdeartwork-kscreensaver-4.1.96, kde-base/plasma-apps-4.1.96, kde-base/knetattach-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebugdialog-4.1.96, kde-base/kmail-4.1.96, kde-base/powerdevil-4.1.96, kde-base/solid-4.1.96, kde-base/phonon-kde-4.1.96, kde-base/kdm-4.1.96, kde-misc/yakuake-2.9.4-r2, kde-base/soliduiserver-4.1.96, kde-base/kode-4.1.96, kde-base/kde-menu-4.1.96, kde-base/libkonq-4.1.96, kde-base/kstartupconfig-4.1.96, kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.1.4, kde-base/knetworkconf-4.1.96, kde-base/libkdcraw-4.1.96, kde-base/kmix-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebase-startkde-4.1.96, kde-base/libksieve-4.1.96, kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.1.96, kde-base/dragonplayer-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.1.96, kde-base/ktnef-4.1.4, kde-base/kwrite-4.1.96, kde-base/mimelib-4.1.96, kde-base/kscreensaver-4.1.96, kde-base/kmimetypefinder-4.1.96, kde-base/renamedlg-plugins-4.1.96, kde-base/kaddressbook-4.1.96, kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.1.96, kde-base/kdepasswd-4.1.96, kde-base/kioclient-4.1.96, kde-base/kinfocenter-4.1.96, kde-base/libplasmaclock-4.1.96, kde-base/nepomuk-4.1.96, kde-base/kappfinder-4.1.96, kde-base/kode-4.1.4, kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.4, kde-base/klipper-4.1.96, kde-base/kwin-4.1.96, kde-base/kontact-4.1.96, kde-base/kfind-4.1.96, kde-base/ksmserver-4.1.96, media-gfx/digikam-0.10.0_beta8, kde-base/kscd-4.1.96, kde-base/libkpgp-4.1.96, kde-base/libtaskmanager-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebase-data-4.1.4, kde-base/libkcddb-4.1.96, kde-base/kcminit-4.1.96, kde-base/kontactinterfaces-4.1.96, kde-base/libkipi-4.1.96, kde-base/nsplugins-4.1.96, kde-base/krdc-4.1.96, kde-base/kdenetwork-filesharing-4.1.96, kde-base/libkworkspace-4.1.96, kde-base/konqueror-4.1.96, kde-base/kopete-4.1.96, kde-base/okular-4.1.96, kde-base/juk-4.1.96, kde-base/dolphin-4.1.96, kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.96, kde-base/kamera-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebase-desktoptheme-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebase-data-4.1.96, kde-base/kdnssd-4.1.96, kde-base/keditbookmarks-4.1.96, kde-base/kurifilter-plugins-4.1.96, kde-base/kmailcvt-4.1.96, kde-base/kdebase-cursors-4.1.96, kde-base/kwrited-4.1.96, kde-base/kstyles-4.1.96, kde-base/kreadconfig-4.1.96, kde-base/kephal-4.1.96, kde-base/kate-4.1.96, kde-base/kiconfinder-4.1.96, kde-base/kcontrol-4.1.96, kde-base/ark-4.1.96, media-plugins/kipi-plugins-0.2.0_beta6, kde-base/ksplash-4.1.96, kde-base/knewstuff-4.1.96, kde-misc/kdiff3-0.9.93, kde-base/ksysguard-4.1.96, kde-base/knotes-4.1.96, kde-base/ksnapshot-4.1.96, kde-base/solid-hardware-4.1.96, kde-base/kcmshell-4.1.96, kde-base/kdialog-4.1.96, kde-base/ksystraycmd-4.1.96, kde-base/krunner-4.1.96, kde-base/kuiserver-4.1.96, kde-base/khotkeys-4.1.96, kde-base/kde-wallpapers-4.1.96, kde-base/kpasswdserver-4.1.96, kde-base/drkonqi-4.1.96, kde-base/libkleo-4.1.96, kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.1.96, kde-base/libkexiv2-4.1.96, kde-base/kgamma-4.1.96, kde-base/kstart-4.1.96, kde-base/gwenview-4.1.96,
Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: a) why do you want to install 4.5 beta? To see if it solves a nasty bug in systray when composite is enabled. b) why don't you just uninstall the phonon stuff? Oh. I'll try that. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: don't try the beta, try qt-copy ;) Ohhh... Let's try that then :) Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mittwoch 21 Januar 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: don't try the beta, try qt-copy ;) Ohhh... Let's try that then :) if there are bugs with kde that are caused by qt, qt-copy should always be your first stop. That is the place where the KDE devs put their patches. In b.k.o,they say qt devs fixed the bug in qt-4.5. Nothing is said about qt-copy. That's why I wanted 4.5 :) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158094 (comment 119) BTW, do you know where's qt-copy in portage/layman? I've added qting-edge and kde-crazy, but neither have it. Thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] resolving blocks from sets
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Norberto Bensa nbe...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, do you know where's qt-copy in portage/layman? I've added qting-edge and kde-crazy, but neither have it. I guess it is @qt-all-live-kde in qting-edge, isn't it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Strange dependency of kopete-3.5.9 on qt-4*
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.orgwrote: Does anyone here know why we have this dependency of a kde-3 package on qt-4? It shouldn't. kopete ssl wants qca-tls-1 qca-tls-1 want qca-1 qca-1 want qt:3 what does emerge -pt kopete gives?
Re: [gentoo-user] alsa-driver version in gentoo-sources
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Saphirus Sage saphirus...@gmail.comwrote: ls /usr/portage/metadata/cache/media-libs | grep alsa That should show you the alsa libs and drivers you have installed on your system. Nope. That will give you what's available for install. You want something like: $ ls /var/db/pkg/media-sound/ | grep alsa alsa-headers-1.0.19/ alsa-utils-1.0.18/
Re: [gentoo-user] Disable remote login for certain user
On Saturday January 17 2009 03:28:07 Grant wrote: an ssh config setting, in shorewall, or somewhere else? You can: 1) use pam as described by Mike or 2) use sshd_config AllowUsers or 3) What I usually do is, disable pam in ssh so only keys are accepted. Only if you have the key, you can login remotely. Of course that means you will have to carry your usb pendrive with you all the time :-) Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconciling users and services
On Saturday January 17 2009 20:09:31 Grant wrote: I have some users on a system and some services. How can I make sure only certain users can log into certain services? Depends on the service and how it is configured. Can you be more specific on what services yo want limited access?
Re: [gentoo-user] Append string on Kernel builds
On Friday January 16 2009 18:58:55 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: The build system does that automatically as long as you don't make mrproper, You can backup .version
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH login with both key AND password?
On Wednesday January 7 2009 22:11:56 Dave Jones wrote: Entering a passphrase encrypts the private part of the key, which you keep only on the server. You only need the public part of the key on the client. Try it the other way: private on the client. Public on the server. The private part is what you have: the key. The public part is what you put on the server: the lock. You can give the lock to whatever person you want, but only your key will unlock it. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SSH login with both key AND password?
On Wednesday January 7 2009 22:01:14 Paul Hartman wrote: I guess I should have tried before asking! Every HOWTO/tutorial I googled seemed to really emphasize the no more password entry! aspect of key login. Thanks. That's right: no more password logins. However, you should (optionaly) lock your key with a passphrase. Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r7 won't load network!
On Tuesday January 6 2009 20:37:31 Denis wrote: I'm doubtful that using oldconfig would make a driver not work because Unless the driver (module) changed name ;) (ata-pata/sata anyone?) Anyway, I've always used oldconfig except when moving from 2.4 to 2.6 Regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de: It got worse with kernel 2.6.28, btw, especially mouse cursor movement. It gets stuck and skips very noticeably. Fortunately, it's not a point yet where I would describe it as unusable, but if the trend continues, desktop will be totally unusable by 2.6.31/32 when doing something that produces load. Oh pleeeaase... You have a broken system. Don't blame Linux for that. $ uname -a Linux venkman 2.6.28-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Dec 25 16:48:22 ARST 2008 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux I'm currently compiling gcc-4.3.2-r2, I have no cursor lagging, stuck, or whatever. Everything is normal. Like if I were not compiling at all. So check your kernel config, your hardware, etc. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
Quoting Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: It is software on mine. I can boot the new kernels and it is jumpy as crap. It is really slow to respond and when it does, it just jerks all over the place and is difficult to click on links and buttons. I can reboot with the old kernel and it works fine, just like it should. Same mouse, same computer, same everything except a different kernel. I can repeat that process and get the same results every time. Do you use evdev? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
On Monday December 29 2008 11:24:40 Dale wrote: Dale wrote: [...] I can't say that I have ever heard of evdev before. [...] Is this required for the new kernels? Nope. I just wanted you to test other device drivers.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
On Monday December 29 2008 19:38:48 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Norberto Bensa wrote: I'm currently compiling gcc-4.3.2-r2, I have no cursor lagging, stuck, or whatever. Everything is normal. Like if I were not compiling at all. I've just emerged glibc (with -j2). I use -j5 (yeah, I know, I'm a masochist...) The ebuild forces -j1 but only for postinstall IIRC. It's especially noticeable with it. Some source files, especially at the beginning of the build, are very short and result in a lot processes getting spawned and terminated very fast, along with files rapidly created on disk. Can you give glibc a test? I'm doing it right now. Nothing really noticeable. I'm also running Windows XP under VirtualBox (2.1.0) with 512MB RAM+16MB video and I'm watching an AVI movie with mplayer. I have 2GB of RAM in this box BTW. I've checked my config and can't find anything wrong. I have tickless, me too (on the desktop; my notebook doesn't boot with tickless) preempt, me too 1000Hz, -O2, CFQ. me too, me too, me too. Maybe it's due to fglrx? (ATI Catalyst driver.) Ah... I don't know. I never used ATIs. NVidia 8600GT here. How does your /proc/interrupts look like?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
On Saturday December 27 2008 15:14:26 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I run Debian on my server because it's set and forget. With Gentoo at home, I have to take good care of it to keep it going. Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set and forget your Gentoo boxes? Another reason I didn't put Gentoo on the server is because everyone would start spamming the forums about lag when I emerge -u world while they're getting frags in Counter-Strike :P set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf Best regards, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de: Why? Does Gentoo forget how to do something? Why can't you just set and forget your Gentoo boxes? Gentoo is difficult to install. For who? And BTW, that doesn't answer the question. Also, if it's left un-updated for longer periods of time, it tends to break on the next update Maybe, but only if you go from abi-1 to abi-2. For example, you can't expect moving from gcc-2 to gcc-3 to gcc-4 being painless. . I guess that's the downside of being versionless. Debian on the other hand, due to it being versioned, doesn't have that problem. I can't move debian from tomato to lenny without problems. set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in /etc/make.conf I'll just hay ah, ah, ah at that one :P OK, I'll also say that it doesn't work. Everything lags even with 19. Then something is wrong with your box or it isn't powerful enough. Works perfectly in mine. Bye This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks and bye for now
Quoting Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de: On my Gentoo at home, yes. The mouse cursor skips, scrolling gets skippy/laggy too. I have a dual core e6...@3.33ghz with 4GB DDR2 RAM. Just like me, but I have it set to default clock: 2.4GHz. Beyond that, it gets somewhat funny :-/ Are you sure your HDs run with DMA enabled? SATA shouldn't have this problem, but as technology gets cheaper, you never know :( With all that being said, I prefer Gentoo of course. I've been through Debian, Ubuntu, Slackware, Mandriva/Mandrake, CentOS, Fedora and openSUSE on my desktop PC. I prefer Linux in all its forms :) Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@
Quoting Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Thought about marking them ALL as not spam and just screwing their spam filter right up. Sort of a get even thing there. :-@ I did that many many many many times. I hate google for not let me disable the stupid spam filter. **BUT** I found a workaround: Ideas? I download the spam folder to my home server with fetchmail. There I have Amavis+[DSPAM+SA]+ClamAV. Works pretty well and I have much more less false positives than gmail. This is my fetchmail config: poll pop.gmail.com proto pop3 user nbe...@gmail.com with pass *** fetchall ssl poll imap.gmail.com proto imap user nbe...@gmail.com with pass *** folder [Gmail]/Spam fetchall ssl Dale HTH, Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gmail and that stupid spam filter. :-@
This is OT but here I am anyway: Quoting Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com: When you see spam in your inbox do you use Report spam? When you see valid email in your spam do you use Not spam? I found it learns very quickly what I consider spam and what not. I also tend to go through the spam folder whenever there's 10 or more messages there. That would mean I need to live my life in the spam folder. I'm sorry but the filter should be smarter or there should be no filter at all. Yeah, I know gmail works for almost everybody else, but for some of us, it just doesn't do what it should. Is it raaay that hard for google to code a don't filter my messages option Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks and bye for now
Quoting Mark Kirkwood mar...@paradise.net.nz: Due to a new work situation where extensive use is made of Debian, I feel the need to have a Debian-based play server. This unfortunately means my trusty Gentoo box is to be sacrificed :-( At work we abuse Ubuntu and that means I need to know it by heart, but I didn't trash my Gentoo install with that brainsucker. I just emerged virtualbox :-P Best wishes Best wishes to you too and good luck in your new job/position! Mark Best regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Ridiculous nagging problem unable to ping
Quoting Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.20 is really your gateway? what's iptables-save output? ping is the thing you can't do? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10: Visual glitch in taskbar
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7797/kdefn4.png That happens on my girlfriend account but not mine (same box BTW) This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?
On Saturday October 25 2008 09:21:41 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: # playman -l|grep -i arcon arcon | svn://svn.ospdev.net/svnroot/arcon/trunk/arcon- overlay WTF is playman!?
Re: [gentoo-user] what can I do besides waiting or complaining about missing kompozer?
On Saturday October 25 2008 12:21:01 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2008 15:32:50 schrieb Norberto Bensa: WTF is playman!? The paludis equivalent of layman. If development has moved to paludis, I guess I'll have to move to it. How much trouble do you think I'll face migrating to paludis? Thanks, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] Is gentoo-portage and gentoo-wiki offline?
On Friday October 17 2008 07:56:10 Dale wrote: Not sure what the problem is tho. They're compiling 2.6.27-gentoo with -j11 on the same box that runs wiki; which, btw, is a 386sx with 4MB of RAM. Please be patient, it will take a few weeks.
Re: [gentoo-user] Replacements for ivman
Quoting Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does software rot when it's unmaintained or why is that a problem? No, but it develops incompatibilities over time... This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
Quoting Erik Hahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt. Then change your MUA :) I mean, there are more important reasons to not send HTML to public mailing lists than your MUA's inability to read them. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs-3.5.10-r1 and kima
Quoting Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thoughts? emerge -1 kde-misc/kima This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS free space disappeared
- Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - On 20 Sep 2008, at 18:36, Norberto Bensa wrote: On Saturday September 20 2008 11:22:21 Stroller wrote: NTFS file-systems written (created?) by Vista add some new special features. Do you have more info on that? Any link? This Wikipeadia epic is ... Wikipedia.. yeah right. Everything that's on internet is true and if it is in wikipedia is absolutely right... :-/ Thanks anyway. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with apache on amd64
On my x86 system there is -D USERDIR. And what's on your /etc/conf.d/apache2 ? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] kdm + the DISPLAYMANAGER var.
What is the correct place to set DISPLAYMANAGER? /etc/conf.d/xdm This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] NTFS free space disappeared
On Saturday September 20 2008 11:22:21 Stroller wrote: NTFS file-systems written (created?) by Vista add some new special features. Do you have more info on that? Any link? Thanks, Norberto
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, I feel so stupid right now. Please don't. Nobody born knowing everything :) So now it works as intended, tested with WinXP and Ubuntu running in parallel (now that shows me why I should upgrade from 2 to 4GB RAM). Heh... Me too! Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right now I got it working without using a bridge. I can ping my Windows XP VM and it can ping everything else on my side, however, nmap won't work. I wonder why? Does the Windows firewall block it off? nmap runs on the guest? After all this, create a small bash script in /usr/bin. I called I would think such a script belongs in /usr/local/bin? Errr.. Yup. But I don't know why VB doesn't get my $PATH. The interface is create and destroyed on demand. I would do that (create a bridge without any IFs attached and then have them added dynamically), except the VBoxAddIF script in virtualbox-ose-2.0.2 craps out on a missing file (/var/run/VirtualBox/vboxnet). Google didn't yield anything useful. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % sudo VBoxAddIF vbox0 marcec br0 VirtualBox host networking interface creation utility, version _VERSION_ (C) 2005-2007 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. Creating the permanent host networking interface vbox0 for user marcec. Failed to add the interface vbox0 to the bridge br0. And where's your br0 in /etc/conf.d/net? I can't find it. When looking at the relevent line (237), apparently it's because the directory doesn't exist so it can't create the file. What does it look like on your system? Shouldn't the ebuild have created that directory? I have no /var/run/VirtualBox... but I use virtualbox-bin-2.0.2. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking [CONTINUE]
Quoting pat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Or my be another question :-) I need to run more then one guest OS, so I expect I need to create next bridge, but how? No no.. You're confusing bridges and interfaces. You make ONE bridge and add interfaces to it. Search my email with scripts to create vb interfaces on-demand. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: except for the fact that VirtualBox seems to not run the script, even with the full path. I can run the script manually, creating vbox1 and then start the VM and everything works, but with: Attached to:vbox1 That's your problem. You should leave that blank. Setup application: /usr/local/bin/addif.sh vbox1 up terminate application: /usr/local/bin/addif.sh vbox1 down Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] xen gentoo as dom0 freeBSD as domU
Quoting Tomáš Krasničan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi list, Hi! is it possible (if is how) to make freeBSD as xen domU on gentoo dom0? Yes, but AFAIK, it will only run in full virtualization mode; just like windows. Maybe (and only _maybe_) there's a way to run it in paravirtualization, but I don't know how. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What I need is the bidirectional communication between host and guest.
Sorry, but I can't help you there, though I'm going to sit down and set
that up myself when I have time (this year, I hope ;) ).
I know! I know!! :-)
The following assumes baselayout-2
This is my /etc/conf.d/net:
bridge_br0=eth0
config_eth0=null
config_br0=dhcp
brctl_br0=setfd 0 sethello 0 stp on
Then run:
sudo ln -s net.lo /etc/init.d/net.eth0
sudo ln -s net.lo /etc/init.d/net.br0
And:
sudo rc-update add net.eth0
sudo rc-update add net.br0
Reboot if you want. After reboot you should have br0 and eth0:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo ifconfig
[sudo] password for zoolook:
br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:fc:fb:82:08
inet addr:192.168.1.200 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fefb:8208/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:286825 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:202074 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:242240512 (231.0 MiB) TX bytes:32231791 (30.7 MiB)
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:fc:fb:82:08
inet6 addr: fe80::21b:fcff:fefb:8208/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:286819 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:203897 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:246254404 (234.8 MiB) TX bytes:32369094 (30.8 MiB)
(note that eth0 does not have ipv4 address)
After all this, create a small bash script in /usr/bin. I called mine
addif.sh:
#!/bin/bash
IF=${1}
ACTION=${2}
BRIDGE=br0
case $ACTION in
up)
sudo VBoxAddIF ${IF} ${LOGNAME} ${BRIDGE} /dev/null 21
;;
down)
sudo VBoxDeleteIF ${IF} /dev/null 21
;;
esac
echo $IF
Add this to /etc/sudores:
%vboxusers ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/VBoxAddIF, /usr/bin/VBoxDeleteIF
Now. Open VirtualBox and configure network like this:
Attached to: Host Interface
Setup application: addif.sh vbox0 up
terminate application: addif.sh vbox0 down
Note that vbox0 is any name you like. I named mine xp or nt4 or
centos depending on the guest.
The interface is create and destroyed on demand.
Regards,
Norberto
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Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox networking
Quoting Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What kind of bidirectional communication are you looking for? OP wants to be able to run services on the guest. AFAIK, the only way to do that is setting up a bridge. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH fixed; now su doesn't work
Quoting Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sudo echo performance /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq scaling_governor won't work because the redirection is done as the user :) echo performace | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq scaling_governor now it does :-P This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] passwd won't work
Quoting Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think this is the same problem that wouldn't let me use su -. Post /etc/pam.d/system-auth This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] ldap samba pdc problem
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Setting stored password for cn=manager,dn=example,dn=net in secrets.tdb Your DN is wrong. Probably you meant: cn=manager,dc=example,dc=net This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] APIPA address
Quoting Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I keep getting this Class B subnet 169.254.0.0 in my routing table on my laptop and I'm not sure why this is happening (for some months now). perhaps you have zeroconf in USE (?) This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] weekend amusement
Quoting Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those who missed it : http://www.besttechie.net/forums/Linux-Humor-t14545.html Gentoo's the best! I can't stop laughting!!! This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo x86 to AMD64
Quoting Anthony Metcalf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now I have a system that flies, but I want to be able to use 64Bit VMware guests...so, I am quite sure I need to have a 64bit system for VMWare server to allow this... VMware will accept _and_ run x86_64 guest in x86 hosts. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Rate limiting TCP connections...
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Norberto Bensa wrote: Ah!! But Windows (XP) uses TC by default. It doesn't use 20% of the network bandwidth unless you tweak some registry setting and/or disable QoS in network properties. That sounds like a fine plan for me... which one? remove qos from windows? nope. that would just overload your router. but, erm, how does it know? Both Linux and Xp talk to my router at 100mbps - and my router talks to the outside world at 0.5mbps... That's the problem. It's common, don't worry. You just need to control how much and in which order packages are delivered to your router so it doesn't have to decide how to route traffic (its queue is not that intelligent.) It's all explained in latrc which I recommend you to read. so, while I'd be entirely happy to cap both machines at 80mbps, I don't see why this would have any effect on the competition for the 0.5mbps to the outside world. Yes. My iptables example was too aggresive, I know. It was just an example. You can modify it like this: iptables -I INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m limit --limit 50/sec -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j DROP The first one takes care of localhost. You don't want to limit traffic on that interface :) The seccond one permits everything from the local network (change 192.168.0.0/24 for the rights values for your local/home network) Third and fourth are the same rules I posted before. With those rules you'll get full speed on the local network and 50 packets per second on everything else (internet.) What's more to the point, it doesn't seem to be Linux competing with Xp, per se - but rather Linux competing with Linux - since my LAN works great - and I can communicate at will between Xp and Linux - it is only when Linux's bind competes with Linux's wget that I see a problem. This is with two processes on the same PC. wget and bind compete for internet access. wget is eating all the bandwidth and bind doesn't have a chance. Do you have forward first in named.conf? If it is, comment it; it will help a bit. try a --limit-rate (or --rate-limit; I can't never get it right) in wget. I presume this is what you mean (taken from man iptables): nope. wget's --limit-rate. This looks as if I can limit the rate at which my linux box talks on my LAN - but this isn't what I need to do. Interestingly, long downloads from two competing WinXp boxes don't cause a problem - but both will max-out my available download capacity... suggesting to me that fixed rate-limiting is not what is called for... Nope. fixed rate limiting is not the answer. You need QoS at the router level, but if it doesn't support it, you'll need to change how your Linux box talks and listen to internet packages. That's what I said -more or less- on my first reply. Let's make an experiment: 1. Terminate all downloads and activity on the internet. 2. Restart your bind (so it flushes its cache) 3. in XP1 download something huge (an ISO image) from one souce in the internet and wait 'til it is at full speed (does it go up to 0.5Mb??) 4. in XP2 start to ping different sources. Does XP2 lost packets? Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] df and du difference
Quoting Paul Colquhoun [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 16 Aug 2008, Ward Poelmans wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 07:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the difference between du and df is about 640 - 188 = 452 MB. and df is showing that my root is full 2.4 times more than du. Normal... Next to the difference due journaling etc, there is one important difference between du en df: Hm. Yeah... Maybe. Journaling add -in my experience- about 32MB. deleted files held open by a running process. du doesn't count these files, df does. Yeap. If there is a file in the /var directory *BEFORE* the /var partition is mounted onto the directory, then du won't find it, but df will know about the space it is using. Yes But you're all missing rounding errors. If you do: du -hcs /path/to/some/dir You'll end up with a different result if you instead do: du -bcs /path/to/some/dir Real example: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ du -bcs Desktop/ 1289720534 Desktop/ 1289720534 total [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ du -hcs Desktop/ 1.3GDesktop/ 1.3Gtotal If you do the math, 1.3G is more or less 1395864372 bytes; ~110MB in diference and same tool. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Rate limiting TCP connections...
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a straightforward way to make my Gentoo box 'play fair' and not hog 100% of the bandwidth? If your router doesn't give you bandwidth and/or traffic shaping control, you can drop some packets. For example, the following rule will accept up to 50 packets per second and drop the rest. The TCP protocol will retry and slow down. iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m limit --limit 50/sec -j ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j DROP Does anyone else have this problem? Yes, everyone using TCP :) You can read Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control for more info (http://lartc.org/). Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Rate limiting TCP connections...
Quoting Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone else have this problem? Yes, everyone using TCP :) You can read Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control for more info (http://lartc.org/). Snappy answer... but I'm pretty sure I've never seen this before - on a wide range of OS and network topologies. I didn't have the same problem with two Windows PCs connected to the same router - Ah!! But Windows (XP) uses TC by default. It doesn't use 20% of the network bandwidth unless you tweak some registry setting and/or disable QoS in network properties. [snip] It seems odd to me. Why? Is pretty obvious what's happening: your Linux box is eating all the bandwidth with the MB download because _by_default_ Linux doesn't do any TC at all. If the iptables thingy was too aggressive, try a --limit-rate (or --rate-limit; I can't never get it right) in wget. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] kerberos gurus? (SOLVED)
Quoting Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 02:01:30 schrieb Norberto Bensa: After copying the mentioned file, I get delegation in every box and it works. Is that the way it should be or am I missing something? Not quite. From the Kerberos V documentation: Thanks Dirk!! Everything is working now. Best regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Adding a gentoo workstation to Active Directory network
Hello! Quoting Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Yoav Luf As far as I know, don't take my word for it, in order to use Active Directory on a GNU/Linux host, you need to setup LDAP and have it talk to AD. You just need Kerberos and lots of documentation exists on the internet. I've even made a booteable CD which installs Ubuntu for a University. This customized Ubuntu then joins a Windows Active Directory domain using only the domain name, a privileged domain username, and its password. Everything else is done by a script: it finds the kerberos server, the short (nt4) domain name, etc. OP said he successfuly joined the workstation to the Windows domain. He just want to know how to automatically mount shares. I still haven't figured it out that part neither, but I guess some ldapsearch can make the trick. I just need to find the time to take a look at it. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
[gentoo-user] kerberos gurus?
Hello everyone! I'm doing my first steps into Kerberos V and I got it working but not the way I dreamed. My network: zeddmore (kdc) venkman (client) melnitz (client) I can login into venkman (or melnitz) and I get a ticket. If I ssh to zeddmore, it does so without a password and klist (on zeddmore) shows the ticket, so venkman delegated (?) the ticket to zeddmore. Now. If I log into venkman, ssh to melnitz does not delegate the ticket. klist says there are no tickets. Login on into zeddmore, ssh to venkman (or melnitz) doesn't show tickets neither _unless_ I copy /etc/krb5.keytab from zeddmore to venkman (and/or melnitz) After copying the mentioned file, I get delegation in every box and it works. Is that the way it should be or am I missing something? Thanks in advance, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice about setting up split home directory
Quoting Josh Cepek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Personally I'd suggest using LVM for this ++ 1) ++ 2) ++ 3) You can easily migrate between hard drives while the system is online by moving LV's from one Physical Volume (PV) (eg: a hard disk) to another. --!! Have you ever tried that? I've almost killed both hard drives doing an on-line migration to a bigger HD. I wouldn't recommend it. 4) ++ LVM is worth a look, ++!!! /tmp, but I use tmpfs for that.) It's possible to do LVM on the / partition, but that requires an initrd to work properly. Josh You can use genkernel for that. Just configure your kernel as always, adding initrd features and then: genkernel --lvm [your-options] Easy. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] DNS Server Patches
Quoting Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dan Kiersky's own description, and web-based nameserver checker: http://www.doxpara.com/ Alternate web-based nameserver checker (recommended by me! ) https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/services/dnsentropy I don't get these tests. Why do they probe _my_ IP and not the IP of my DNS servers? What's the point on probing me if _maybe_ the servers are not patched? Thanks, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DNS Server Patches
Norberto Bensa wrote: I don't get these tests. Why do they probe _my_ IP and not the IP of my DNS servers? What's the point on probing me if _maybe_ the servers are not patched? Heh... I'm Sorry. I sometimes forget I run my own DNS servers :) After changing my /etc/resolv.conf, I got my ISP's servers tested. They are patched. Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
RE: [gentoo-user] upgraded video card, nvidia drivers no longer work
Quoting Budd, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is nvnews a lists.gentoo.org list? Nope -- NVidia forum. I don't have a URL at hand. Do a Google search This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
Quoting Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED]: High Memory Support Off You made you box to only see ~950MB :) From menuconfig: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G: Select this if you have a 32-bit processor and between 1 and 4 gigabytes of physical RAM. Symbol: HIGHMEM4G [=y] Prompt: 4GB Defined at arch/x86/Kconfig:766 Depends on: choice !X86_NUMAQ Location: - Processor type and features - High Memory Support (choice [=y]) Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
Neil Bothwick wrote: That's the most likely case, because the HighMem option doesn't even appear on a 64 bit system. He runs on 32 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Enrico Weigelt wrote: I've made the big mistake of bying an notebook w/ geforce go 6100. I have one. Compaq Presario 3415LA (Sempron 3500+, GeForce 6150, Gentoo 64bit.) So I strongly suggest, NOT to buy NV cards. Too late buddy. All my current boxes (6) run on NVidia cards, and are the most stable boxes I ever had. (BTW: a few month ago, I managed to stop a customer from buying several hundreds of NV cards - yes, consulting jobs sometimes make really fun this way ;-P) Poor customer :-) Perhaps you were running cheap PSUs or bad memory banks and that's why your box crashed so often. Regards, Norberto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list and PGP/MIME
Quoting Wolf Canis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there a problem with signed messages? Signed messages doesn't make any sense on a mailing list. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] phpldapadmin 1.1.0.5 and firefox 3
Hello list, is there anyone using phpldapadmin-1.1.0.5 with firefox-3 ? I can't get the login form using ff3. Any idea why not? Thanks in advance, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] conntrack and the netfilter howto
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you've already rebooted and are using your new netfilter-enabled kernel, you can view a list of active network connections that your machine is participating in by typing cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack Even with no firewall configured, Linux's conntrack functionality is working behind the scenes, keeping track of the connections that your machine is participating in That file is not present on my setup. Parhaps the author was on crack, or he wasn't using a modularized kernel :) There will be no ip_conntrack unless you modprobe nf_contrack_ipv4. HTH, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
Hello list, svn (dev-util/subversion-1.5.0_rc4) doesn't want to update nor add layman's repos: $ sudo layman -a vmware * Running command /usr/bin/svn co http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk/; /usr/portage/local/layman/vmware... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk' * Failed to add overlay vmware. * Error was: Adding the overlay failed! $ sudo layman -S * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/mozilla... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/mozilla' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/desktop-effects /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * Running command /usr/bin/svn update /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise... svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed' * Running command cd /usr/portage/local/layman/gnome /usr/bin/git pull... Already up-to-date. * * Success: * -- * * Successfully synchronized overlay desktop-effects. * Successfully synchronized overlay gnome. * * Errors: * -- * * Failed to sync overlay mozilla. * Error was: Syncing overlay mozilla returned status 256! * * Failed to sync overlay sunrise. * Error was: Syncing overlay sunrise returned status 256! * Anyone knows more about it? Thanks! Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] layman: svn broken?
Quoting Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: USE=-webdav-neon works here Hm. I have enabled boths webdav-something USE flags -which were disabled- and now it works. Thanks everyone! Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] distcc: different arch (amd64, x86)
Hello list, since Ubuntu Hardy didn't like my notebook, I'm currently installing Gentoo (amd64) on it. This is my first Gentoo install in almost six years!! So. I have two other boxes (Intel Core 2 Duo and AMD X2 3800+) that also run Gentoo (x86) and I would like to use them as distcc hosts for my notebook. The question is: will it be possible to compile amd64 code using distcc on those x86 hosts? Will it be as simple as emerging distcc on the notebook and configure the distcc hosts? Many thanks in advance, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc: different arch (amd64, x86)
Quoting deface [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_AMD64-x86-distcc Thanks. Thanks. Thanks!!! BTW, nice handbook. After 6 years, clean boot in the first try. Gentoo's Docs rocks! This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with mounting an ISO file as non-root
Quoting Mike Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What can I do to be able to mount an arbitrary ISO image to an arbitrary mount point from the command line as non-root user? fuse-iso ? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE slow shutdown
Quoting Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, I have noticed that a box running pretty much vanilla KDE is taking an awful long time to exit the KDE session when I shutdown. Couldn't find anything in If you use Kopete, check if you have statistics plugin enabled. If so, disable it. HTH, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Firefox: password field
Hello Everyone, here's a cosmetic one. I use Firefox (3b5) on KDE (3.5.9) Password fields appear -in both versions- as asterisks * Using Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) I've noticed Firefox uses circles in password fields. Is that an Ubuntu patch or some obscure configuration option? Thanks in advance, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
