Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
James Hiscock wrote: This is a Class 1 faxmodem, which, AFAIR, doesn't work with m|vgetty. ...yeah... [vm]getty has no support for Class 1 fax, but it's (theoretically) still ok for voice... Hmmm - I've just looked out a manual and it seems to agree with you... and until this hint I'd no idea there even were two classes of fax support.. let alone that my pace only did Class 1 and I might need Class 2. There was an interesting bit in the vgetty faq about potential imminent support for class 1 fax modems... but there was no hint as to a timescale. I would like to work out if it would be worth my while to look around for another cheap modem or wait... if sometime this year a usable (very small volume) support for Class 1 faxes becomes available then that would probably be fine - I've other (less convenient) options which can see me through until then. Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
On Apr 21, 2005, at 6:52 pm, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: There was an interesting bit in the vgetty faq about potential imminent support for class 1 fax modems... but there was no hint as to a timescale. Imminent would not be a correct statement of the current status. See http://www.altramelia.it/mess_6329_2353960.html I would like to work out if it would be worth my while to look around for another cheap modem or wait... if sometime this year a usable (very small volume) support for Class 1 faxes becomes available then that would probably be fine - I've other (less convenient) options which can see me through until then. Look around for a cheap replacement. I have been very lucky with a 28.8k Hayes Accura that I got from a car-boot sale - it does UK CLID, fax voice. I would expect that you could find something suitable for next to no $$$ if you keep your eyes open. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
James Hiscock wrote: You might want to check out vocp (http://vocpsystem.com/) as an alternative - there's a (horribly experimental - read: partially completed) ebuild for it on bugs.gentoo.org... I'm still trying to tweak stuff to get it working, but it's pretty straight-forward. That looks like exactly what I want... Though I'd prefer to wait until it is in the portage tree (assuming that will happen soon) - unless, of course, I'm that one critical person who is needed for testing in order to reach that stage. What kind of modem are you using? I've a Pace 56Voice External one (RS232 interface) which (as far as I remember) worked well with Talkworks under NT4 several years ago... and until recently performed robustly for dialup. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
Stroller wrote: snipI'm migrating to Asterisk Real Soon Now (tm), but it certainly won't support any of your current hardware - it's more appropriate if you want to do VoIP, probably involving routing all your telephone calls through it. If you have to ask, you probably don't want to use Asterisk yet. Stroller 'Scuse me, but I don't think you can (tm) that -- Jerry Pournelle was using it like back in the 1970's... rgh. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
I am looking at cobbling together a replacement for my antiquated hardware answer phone... Ideally I'd use my existing Voice/Fax Modem - and have voice mail messages delivered to me as emails in some appropriate attachment - that way I can retrieve them wherever I happen to be. I've heard of Bayonne (but can't find that in portage); understand that [vm]gety is a very low-level approach (which sounds a fair bit of work) and of Asterisk (which sounds as if it supports lots of functionality I don't need - as well as not explicitly stating that it can use my existing (voice/fax/modem hardware). My ideal solution would get a basic answer-phone service up and running pretty quickly - but let me tweak it as I find time over the medium term. What do other gentoo users do for answer phone and/or fax services for a POTS line? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I am looking at cobbling together a replacement for my antiquated hardware answer phone... Ideally I'd use my existing Voice/Fax Modem - and have voice mail messages delivered to me as emails in some appropriate attachment - that way I can retrieve them wherever I happen to be. I've heard of Bayonne (but can't find that in portage); understand that [vm]gety is a very low-level approach (which sounds a fair bit of work) and of Asterisk (which sounds as if it supports lots of functionality I don't need - as well as not explicitly stating that it can use my existing (voice/fax/modem hardware). My ideal solution would get a basic answer-phone service up and running pretty quickly - but let me tweak it as I find time over the medium term. What do other gentoo users do for answer phone and/or fax services for a POTS line? years ago I used hylafax. Only as fax. It's (well) written in C so it's easy to patch. -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
Joseph wrote: Asterisk - for answering system (might be overkill) Hylafax - for fax server Hmmm - That was my take on Asterisk too... if it really is the best way to do a voice-mail system - then I guess I should take the plunge... I'd still be interested to know if there are viable alternatives before I do... Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:33 pm, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I am looking at cobbling together a replacement for my antiquated hardware answer phone... Ideally I'd use my existing Voice/Fax Modem - and have voice mail messages delivered to me as emails in some appropriate attachment ... I've been doing this for about a year a half now - it's very convenient. understand that [vm]gety is a very low-level approach (which sounds a fair bit of work) and of Asterisk (which sounds as if it supports lots of functionality I don't need - as well as not explicitly stating that it can use my existing (voice/fax/modem hardware). I've been using vgetty - the version in Portage is pretty good, and once I actually sat down to configure it I had it mostly up running over the course of an evening - I think it sounds much more complicated than it is. Many modems are more or less supported, but I don't remember the details - searching reading the archives of the mgetty mailing list will see you right. If you decide to go this route I have scripts to mail the messages as .mp3 attachments that I can let you have; it does them as proper MIME, and they even play from the IMAP client on my new Windows CE mobile phone. :D I'm migrating to Asterisk Real Soon Now (tm), but it certainly won't support any of your current hardware - it's more appropriate if you want to do VoIP, probably involving routing all your telephone calls through it. If you have to ask, you probably don't want to use Asterisk yet. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
What do other gentoo users do for answer phone and/or fax services for a POTS line? You might want to check out vocp (http://vocpsystem.com/) as an alternative - there's a (horribly experimental - read: partially completed) ebuild for it on bugs.gentoo.org... I'm still trying to tweak stuff to get it working, but it's pretty straight-forward. What kind of modem are you using? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
On Apr 19, 2005, at 12:25 am, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I've been using vgetty - the version in Portage is pretty good, and once I actually sat down to configure it I had it mostly up running over the course of an evening - I think it sounds much more complicated than it is I'm migrating to Asterisk Real Soon Now (tm), but it certainly won't support any of your current hardware - it's more appropriate if you want to do VoIP, probably involving routing all your telephone calls through it. If you have to ask, you probably don't want to use Asterisk yet. Several people have been adament that I should use Asterisk - but I remained rather unconvinced... as all the documents I see surrounding Asterisk are interested in VOIP devices - whereas I want a solution for a more ancient technology. I think you're right to be unconvinced - I'm pretty new to Asterisk, but I'd _love_ to see a justification for using it for your purposes. As I see it, the normal use of Asterisk as an answerphone on a POTS line would involve answering the call on first ring, forwarding it to the VoIP phone for X rings then recording a message only if that line isn't answered. I'm sure you CAN do what you require using Asterisk, but that doesn't mean you _should_. Some scripts to munge vgetty interactions into emailed mp3 files sounds extremely useful (any chance of an emailed tgz - or putting them on an ftp site somewhere?) Thanks for reminding me! I've just posted an updated version to the [m|v]getty mailing list. It's at http://tinyurl.com/caygp I was hesitating on vgetty not particularly because I was worried that I could manage to set up that sort of a system - but rather that I didn't want to divise a solution which wouldn't benefit from ongoing developments and that I'd want to change i a few months. Well, I've sure I've heard statements that the [m|v]getty code is obscure, dated hard to work on, but I have no idea whether that's true or not, as I haven't looked at it myself (and probably wouldn't be qualified to do so). It IS, however, well-maintained supported by the mgetty author - if you post to the mailing list he will likely reply himself. As far as forwarding the voice messages to email are concerned, the standard function of vgetty is to save the voice message into its spool/incoming directory; if the admin has specified a script to run, that will be called with the full path of the voice file caller ID as parameters, so the script can do whatever you want with the recorded messages. I pass the recorded .pvf (portable voice file) down the longest pipe possible in order to convert it to Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
