Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Daniel Heemann
On Tuesday 01 March 2011 21:21:32 Alex Schuster wrote:
 Jarry writes:
  is there any way to move running (already started) process
  to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
  so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?
 
 Ctrl-Z
 bg

I think to be able to detach from the terminal w/o terminating the process you 
also need 'disown'.

Regards



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Schuster
Daniel Heemann writes:

 On Tuesday 01 March 2011 21:21:32 Alex Schuster wrote:
  Jarry writes:
   is there any way to move running (already started) process
   to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
   so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?
  
  Ctrl-Z
  bg
 
 I think to be able to detach from the terminal w/o terminating the
 process you also need 'disown'.

You are right. I was not sure myself, so I did test this, but only with a 
'sleep 60' command. It was still running when I closed the shell, so I 
thought this would work. But now I learnt this is not true for emerge. Does 
anyone know why?

I agree with Stroller, tmux seems like the way to go. I do not use it (yet), 
because I already know screen, but it is on my to do list, after some 
postings here.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 02 March 2011 06:21:13 Stroller wrote:
 On 1/3/2011, at 7:12pm, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
  ...
  Combine with GNU Screen to achieve what you want.
 
 Not screen.
 
 He's never used screen before, therefore he has no reason not to use tmux.
 
 $ eix -I tmux
 [I] app-misc/tmux
  Available versions:  1.2 1.3 ~1.4 ** {debug vim-syntax}
  Installed versions:  1.3(18:51:19 10/08/10)(vim-syntax)
  Homepage:http://tmux.sourceforge.net
  Description: Terminal multiplexer
 $
 
 tmux is better that screen in a variety of ways. Many of those ways are
 minor, however all together and in total they're significant enough. You
 may want to stay with screen if you have a highly-customised .screenrc and
 use many other machines on which you're unable to install tmux, but screen
 should not be recommended over tmux without a very good reason.
 
 Stroller.

please elaborate



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Schuster
Am 02.03.2011 21:44, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:

 On Wednesday 02 March 2011 06:21:13 Stroller wrote:

 tmux is better that screen in a variety of ways. Many of those ways are
 minor, however all together and in total they're significant enough. You
 may want to stay with screen if you have a highly-customised .screenrc and
 use many other machines on which you're unable to install tmux, but screen
 should not be recommended over tmux without a very good reason.

 Stroller.
 
 please elaborate

He already did:
http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg107371.html

I really have to give tmux a try.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Dale

Alex Schuster wrote:


You are right. I was not sure myself, so I did test this, but only with a
'sleep 60' command. It was still running when I closed the shell, so I
thought this would work. But now I learnt this is not true for emerge. Does
anyone know why?

I agree with Stroller, tmux seems like the way to go. I do not use it (yet),
because I already know screen, but it is on my to do list, after some
postings here.

Wonko

   


Do share.  I use screen here to but plan to look into tmux.  Right now, 
I have no clue what it even is.  I'm going to install it when I finish 
the current download.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes:

 Alex Schuster wrote:

 I agree with Stroller, tmux seems like the way to go. I do not use it (yet),
 because I already know screen, but it is on my to do list, after some
 postings here.

 Do share.  I use screen here to but plan to look into tmux.  Right now, 
 I have no clue what it even is.  I'm going to install it when I finish 
 the current download.

See Stroller's comprehensive posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg107371.html

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-02 Thread Dale

Alex Schuster wrote:


See Stroller's comprehensive posting:
http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg107371.html

Wonko

   


I read that but still would love to here of someone else's experience.  
From that link tho, it sounds . . . interesting.


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Jarry

Hi,
is there any way to move running (already started) process
to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?

Sometimes I start updating my server, but it keeps running
for long time, and I would like to log out but I can not.

I know, I could have started it with:
nohup emerge -uv gcc 

But I forgot to do it that way, and now I'm sitting, watching
messages scrolling in my shell. So is there any way to do
this nohup-trick on running process?

Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Edward Martinez

On 03/01/11 10:56, Jarry wrote:

Hi,
is there any way to move running (already started) process
to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?

Sometimes I start updating my server, but it keeps running
for long time, and I would like to log out but I can not.

I know, I could have started it with:
nohup emerge -uv gcc 

But I forgot to do it that way, and now I'm sitting, watching
messages scrolling in my shell. So is there any way to do
this nohup-trick on running process?

Jarry

   Hi,

  If i can remember correctly I think the command would be :

bg

   but i don't know the whole syntax.



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 03/01/2011 07:56:40 PM, Jarry wrote:
 Hi,
 is there any way to move running (already started) process
 to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
 so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?
 
 Sometimes I start updating my server, but it keeps running
 for long time, and I would like to log out but I can not.
 
 I know, I could have started it with:
 nohup emerge -uv gcc 
 
 But I forgot to do it that way, and now I'm sitting, watching
 messages scrolling in my shell. So is there any way to do
 this nohup-trick on running process?
 

You might have a look at
http://www.quantprinciple.com/invest/index.php/docs/tipsandtricks/unix/jobcontrol/

Helmut.



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/01/11 13:56, Jarry wrote:
 Hi,
 is there any way to move running (already started) process
 to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
 so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?
 
 Sometimes I start updating my server, but it keeps running
 for long time, and I would like to log out but I can not.
 
 I know, I could have started it with:
 nohup emerge -uv gcc 
 
 But I forgot to do it that way, and now I'm sitting, watching
 messages scrolling in my shell. So is there any way to do
 this nohup-trick on running process?
 
 Jarry

See,


http://blog.nelhage.com/2011/01/reptyr-attach-a-running-process-to-a-new-terminal/

Combine with GNU Screen to achieve what you want.

(I'll do an ebuild for reptyr in the next week or so if nobody beats me
to it.)



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Alex Schuster
Jarry writes:

 is there any way to move running (already started) process
 to background, and disconnect it from screen/terminal
 so that I could log off (without terminating the process)?

Ctrl-Z
bg

But I really suggest using screen for this. Then you can detach the shell 
with Ctrl-A D, and re-attach later with screen -DR.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:12:31 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:

 (I'll do an ebuild for reptyr in the next week or so if nobody beats me
 to it.)

It looks like somebody already has :)

% eix reptyr
* app-misc/reptyr [1]
 Available versions:  (~)
 Description: Reparent a running program to a new terminal

[1] foo-overlay layman/foo-overlay


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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 03/01/11 16:07, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:12:31 -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 
 (I'll do an ebuild for reptyr in the next week or so if nobody beats me
 to it.)
 
 It looks like somebody already has :)
 
 % eix reptyr
 * app-misc/reptyr [1]
  Available versions:  (~)
  Description: Reparent a running program to a new terminal
 
 [1] foo-overlay layman/foo-overlay
 
 

(Does anyone commit to portage any more?)

I didn't realize there was no release tagged. I'll ask the author if he
would tag a version epsilon0 so that it's easier to keyword.



Re: [gentoo-user] How can I move running proces to background out of screen?

2011-03-01 Thread Stroller

On 1/3/2011, at 7:12pm, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 ...
 Combine with GNU Screen to achieve what you want.

Not screen. 

He's never used screen before, therefore he has no reason not to use tmux.

$ eix -I tmux
[I] app-misc/tmux
 Available versions:  1.2 1.3 ~1.4 ** {debug vim-syntax}
 Installed versions:  1.3(18:51:19 10/08/10)(vim-syntax)
 Homepage:http://tmux.sourceforge.net
 Description: Terminal multiplexer
$ 

tmux is better that screen in a variety of ways. Many of those ways are minor, 
however all together and in total they're significant enough. You may want to 
stay with screen if you have a highly-customised .screenrc and use many other 
machines on which you're unable to install tmux, but screen should not be 
recommended over tmux without a very good reason. 

Stroller.