Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-05-01 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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 Thanks, that's pretty much what I had.  I'm interested in your
 framerates though.  With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the
 radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers...

 Any suggestions? What can I look for to make sure I've done it right
 (apart from a working X!)?

 thanks,

Interesting, this is how it looks here:
6244 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1248.683 FPS
6349 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1269.207 FPS
6374 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1274.697 FPS
and glxgears is just using 25% of my CPU.
You can check your config with glxinfo | grep direct which should
return Yes. If it doesn't, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log (assuming
we are talking about display 0.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-05-01 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:21 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:
 You can check your config with glxinfo | grep direct which should
 return Yes.

$ glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

  If it doesn't, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log (assuming
 we are talking about display 0.

I see a:
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2

and 

(WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support

*** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon 9500
*** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in this tree.
*** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is available from Mesa 
CVS.
*** Additional information can be found on http://r300.sourceforge.net
*** This message has been last modified on 2005-08-07.


Don't tell me my 9600 isn't supported by the radeon driver?...
also, there's this interesting section that I'm having trouble understanding:
(WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support

*** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon 9500
*** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in this tree.
*** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is available from Mesa 
CVS.
*** Additional information can be found on http://r300.sourceforge.net
*** This message has been last modified on 2005-08-07.

drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:00.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 6
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:00.0
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] DRM interface version 1.2
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] created radeon driver at busid pci::01:00.0
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe13b2000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe13b2000 to 0xb7f07000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xf000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
(II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module
is loaded before the radeon kernel module.
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe13b2000 at 0xb7f07000

but agpgart and radeon are both compiled in to the kernel.

I heard something about the RV350 or RV300 (not sure) chipset not being
supported - is this true?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-05-01 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Iain Buchanan wrote:
 (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
 (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the
 DRI. (II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart
 kernel module is loaded before the radeon kernel module.

Have a look at

$ dmesg | egrep agp|drm

and at 
 
$ grep AGP /usr/src/linux/.config

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-05-01 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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Iain Buchanan schrieb:
 On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:21 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:
 You can check your config with glxinfo | grep direct which should
 return Yes.

 $ glxinfo | grep direct
 direct rendering: No
 OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
Ok, now we know why ...

  If it doesn't, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log (assuming
 we are talking about display 0.

 I see a:
 (II) LoadModule: dri
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
 (II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 compiled for 7.0.0, module version = 1.0.0
 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
Fine, Xorg can load his DRI-module

 and

 (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support

 *** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon 9500
 *** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in this tree.
 *** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is available from
Mesa CVS.
 *** Additional information can be found on http://r300.sourceforge.net
 *** This message has been last modified on 2005-08-07.


 Don't tell me my 9600 isn't supported by the radeon driver?...
 also, there's this interesting section that I'm having trouble
understanding:
 (WW) RADEON(0): Enabling DRM support

 *** Direct rendering support is highly experimental for Radeon 9500
 *** and newer cards. The 3d mesa driver is not provided in this tree.
 *** A very experimental (and incomplete) version is available from
Mesa CVS.
 *** Additional information can be found on http://r300.sourceforge.net
 *** This message has been last modified on 2005-08-07.

 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
 drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:00.0
 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK)
 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 6
 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:00.0
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] DRM interface version 1.2
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] created radeon driver at busid pci::01:00.0
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe13b2000
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe13b2000 to 0xb7f07000
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xf000
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
 (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
 (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI.
 (II) RADEON(0): [agp] You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module
 is loaded before the radeon kernel module.
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe13b2000 at
0xb7f07000

 but agpgart and radeon are both compiled in to the kernel.

 I heard something about the RV350 or RV300 (not sure) chipset not being
 supported - is this true?

 thanks,

Since the very recent release of Xorg they added 3D-support for your
card but it is highly experimental. It seems that it didn't work
100% with your box.
I'm sorry I can't really help you with your problem now, you might
find something interesting here:
http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110008

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-05-01 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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Benno Schulenberg schrieb:
 Iain Buchanan wrote:
 (WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP
 failed to initialize. Disabling the DRI. (II) RADEON(0): [agp]
 You may want to make sure the agpgart kernel module is loaded
 before the radeon kernel module.

 Have a look at

 $ dmesg | egrep agp|drm

 and at

 $ grep AGP /usr/src/linux/.config

 Benno
Very good point, didn't think of this.
To help Iain and some others to get things working, here's my output
of dmesg | egrep agp|drm (so you know how it should look like):

[4294668.858000] Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
[4294668.858000] agpgart: Detected SiS 735 chipset
[4294668.864000] agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xd000
[4294668.864000] [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
[4294668.864000] [drm] Initialized radeon 1.22.0 20051229 on minor 0
[4294717.132000] agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at
:00:00.0.
[4294717.132000] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into
4x mode
[4294717.132000] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into
4x mode
[4294717.132000] agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.1 into
4x mode
[4294717.188000] [drm] Loading R200 Microcode

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-30 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 13:14 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:

  On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 22:00 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:
  I don't say you have to but if I were you I would:
  - - update the xorg to 7.X
  - - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel
  - - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel
 
  can you specify what kernel version you're using, and what the config
  file names are for these two kernel options?
 
 I'm using 2.6.16-beyond-git12 here.

2.6.16-suspend2-r4 here...

 The agpgart is called CONFIG_AGP. You have to select the correct
 MB-chipset here, which is an SIS for me (CONFIG_AGP_SIS).
 Next, you need the DRM (CONFIG_DRM) and the Radeon-support for it
 (CONFIG_DRM_RADEON).
 
 Here is my device-section:
[snip]

Thanks, that's pretty much what I had.  I'm interested in your
framerates though.  With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the
radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers...

Any suggestions? What can I look for to make sure I've done it right
(apart from a working X!)?

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-30 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Iain Buchanan wrote:
 (snip)

 Thanks, that's pretty much what I had.  I'm interested in your
 framerates though.  With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the
 radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers...

 (snip)

are u sure of that 2500+ fps.. I think its 250+ fps.. If not i'm
ditching my nvidia card and buying ati.. :) But i'm sure when it comes
to performance nvidia is the leader..

Bye,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-30 Thread Jacques Montier
Martins Steinbergs a gentiment tapote:
 Hi,

 Well, It's me again,
 I was satisfied too quickly !
 After upgrading xorg to xorg-x11-7.0-r1 and getting dri successfully,
 gdm still crashes at reboot (kernel panic).
 I really don't know what to do now :-(
 Any idea ?

 Thanks a lot,

 --- Jacques --
 

 check xorg logs for drivers version mismatch, for example if u have following 
 mouse driver version 1.1.0 installed, downgrade to 1.0.4, same for keybord
 * x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
  Available versions:
 1.0.4
 [M] 1.1.0

 too new xorg-server version and input drivers just doesnt work with 
 ati-drivers

 m
   
Are installed :
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.0.1.3
and
 x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.0.4
So I don't have the latest version.


Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-30 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 13:21 +0530, Farhan Ahmed wrote:
 Iain Buchanan wrote:
  (snip)
 
  Thanks, that's pretty much what I had.  I'm interested in your
  framerates though.  With glxgears I only get about 130 fps with the
  radeon driver, yet I get 2500+ fps with ati-drivers...
 
  (snip)
 
 are u sure of that 2500+ fps..

with glxgears, yes.

  I think its 250+ fps..

not for me :)

  If not i'm
 ditching my nvidia card and buying ati.. :)

don't...

  But i'm sure when it comes
 to performance nvidia is the leader..

$ glxgears
13307 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2661.400 FPS

That's with the ati-drivers, of course.

This laptop is a 3GHz P4 with Radeon 9600, about a year old.  A new
nvidia will give you better performance.

cya,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-29 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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 Hi,

 On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 22:00 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:
 I don't say you have to but if I were you I would:
 - - update the xorg to 7.X
 - - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel
 - - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel

 can you specify what kernel version you're using, and what the config
 file names are for these two kernel options?
I'm using 2.6.16-beyond-git12 here.
The agpgart is called CONFIG_AGP. You have to select the correct
MB-chipset here, which is an SIS for me (CONFIG_AGP_SIS).
Next, you need the DRM (CONFIG_DRM) and the Radeon-support for it
(CONFIG_DRM_RADEON).

 - - configure xorg to use the radeon-driver (This is not just changing
 one line, you will have to reconfigure the whole section because the
 different drivers use different parameters)

 I thought I'd try your suggestion, since I already have modular xorg,
 and I'm getting fed-up with constantly-locking-up-ati-drivers.

 Also, what options do you have set in your xorg.conf file? Maybe even
 post your whole radeon Device section, if its small :)

 that would help me out a bit, I think.

 so far, I don't have dri (the Load dri command in xorg.conf locks up
 my laptop)

Here is my device-section:

Section Device
Identifier  device0
Driver  radeon
Option  AGPMode 4
Option  backingstore true
Option  VideoRam 128
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
Option  hw cursor off
# This is for Xorg 7.0 to work correctly:
Option  ColorTiling off
Option  AccelMethod EXA
EndSection

Be sure to add this section (you might have it already):
Section DRI
Group video
Mode 0666
EndSection


Good Luck,
Jannis Achstetter
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-28 Thread Jacques Montier
Iain Buchanan a gentiment tapote:
 Hi,

 On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 22:00 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:
   
 I don't say you have to but if I were you I would:
 - - update the xorg to 7.X
 - - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel
 - - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel
 

 can you specify what kernel version you're using, and what the config
 file names are for these two kernel options?

   
 - - configure xorg to use the radeon-driver (This is not just changing
 one line, you will have to reconfigure the whole section because the
 different drivers use different parameters)
 

 I thought I'd try your suggestion, since I already have modular xorg,
 and I'm getting fed-up with constantly-locking-up-ati-drivers.

 Also, what options do you have set in your xorg.conf file? Maybe even
 post your whole radeon Device section, if its small :)

 that would help me out a bit, I think.

 so far, I don't have dri (the Load dri command in xorg.conf locks up
 my laptop)

 thanks,
   
Hi,

Well, It's me again,
I was satisfied too quickly !
After upgrading xorg to xorg-x11-7.0-r1 and getting dri successfully,
gdm still crashes at reboot (kernel panic).
I really don't know what to do now :-(
Any idea ?

Thanks a lot,

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-28 Thread Martins Steinbergs
 Hi,

 Well, It's me again,
 I was satisfied too quickly !
 After upgrading xorg to xorg-x11-7.0-r1 and getting dri successfully,
 gdm still crashes at reboot (kernel panic).
 I really don't know what to do now :-(
 Any idea ?

 Thanks a lot,

 --- Jacques --

check xorg logs for drivers version mismatch, for example if u have following 
mouse driver version 1.1.0 installed, downgrade to 1.0.4, same for keybord
* x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse
 Available versions:
1.0.4
[M] 1.1.0

too new xorg-server version and input drivers just doesnt work with 
ati-drivers

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-27 Thread Ghislain Bourgeois
On 4/26/06, Jannis Achstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I play UT2K4 here and it works. It ain't super-blazing (1,6GHz,512MB RAM, 128MB-Graphics-RAM so can't be too good for such hungrygames) but playable without any problems.Glad to here that! 
 I used them a while ago, but they were quite crappy. Can you do
 heavy 3D with them without pulling your hair out?What do you mean by heavy 3D? Hardware-accelerated image-renderingor games? I'm happy with 250FPS in Quake3Arena to be honest.
I was just refering to something more heavy than an Opengl screensaver. I guess UT2K4 falls in that category.
I don't say you have to but if I were you I would:- - update the xorg to 7.X- - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel- - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel- - configure xorg to use the radeon-driver (This is not just changing
one line, you will have to reconfigure the whole section because thedifferent drivers use different parameters)Is there a specific reason you suggest  the Radeon driver from the kernel and not from the ebuild? AFAIK, the one you can emerge is more up to date most of the time.
But, I'll give it a try, I'm really getting tired of this. If the DRM driver really works as good as you say, I will be glad to drop ati-drivers!-- Ghislain Bourgeois---Linux System administrator



Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-27 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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 [...]

 Is there a specific reason you suggest the Radeon driver from the
 kernel and not from the ebuild? AFAIK, the one you can emerge is
 more up to date most of the time.


Which driver from the ebuild do you mean? AFAIK you need the DRM
support for the Radeon inside the kernel (or as module) AND the
xorg-radeon-driver which then talks to the DRM of the kernel.  Xorg
even fails (at least, doesn't have 3D-support) when I use the
xorg-radeon-driver and don't have the kernel-drm enabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-27 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Ptitjack wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have some problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 and ati-drivers.
 Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without any
 error message when logging out.
 Do you get that same trouble on your own ?
 I really don't know what to do except downgrading to gentoo-sources-2.6.15.
 Thanks
 
 AMD Athlon 1.2 GHz
 Xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
 ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1
 ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]
 
 PS : excuse my poor english :-(
 
 Ptitjack

This is actually a kernel panic caused by unloading the fglrx module.

See: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113685
There are many bugs in b.g.o. take a look. Many things solve this issue
for different people. I have tried most of the solutions and something
has worked but I am not sure what. I only get a kernel panic 1/10 times
when restarting/shutting down X.

You might want to try the latest testing ati-drivers. I am using 8.23.7.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-27 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi,

On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 22:00 +0200, Jannis Achstetter wrote:
 I don't say you have to but if I were you I would:
 - - update the xorg to 7.X
 - - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel
 - - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel

can you specify what kernel version you're using, and what the config
file names are for these two kernel options?

 - - configure xorg to use the radeon-driver (This is not just changing
 one line, you will have to reconfigure the whole section because the
 different drivers use different parameters)

I thought I'd try your suggestion, since I already have modular xorg,
and I'm getting fed-up with constantly-locking-up-ati-drivers.

Also, what options do you have set in your xorg.conf file? Maybe even
post your whole radeon Device section, if its small :)

that would help me out a bit, I think.

so far, I don't have dri (the Load dri command in xorg.conf locks up
my laptop)

thanks,
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[gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Ptitjack
Hi all,

I have some problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 and ati-drivers.
Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without any
error message when logging out.
Do you get that same trouble on your own ?
I really don't know what to do except downgrading to gentoo-sources-2.6.15.
Thanks

AMD Athlon 1.2 GHz
Xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1
ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]

PS : excuse my poor english :-(

Ptitjack
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Ghislain Bourgeois
On 4/26/06, Ptitjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without anyerror message when logging out.I have the exact same problem, with an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ and Radeon 9000 pro.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Dennis
I've had almost the exact same problem.  I have the same card.  I tried 
multiple ati drivers and different login managers with no success.  I 
recently upgraded to Modular X and for some reason, it all started 
working normally again.  If you don't want to upgrade, perhaps 
re-compiling X will fix the problem but I didn't try this.  I had the 
same problem with different kernels but not when I dropped the 
ati-drivers so I don't think downgrading the kernel will fix your problem.


-Dennis

Ptitjack wrote:

Hi all,

I have some problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 and ati-drivers.
Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without any
error message when logging out.
Do you get that same trouble on your own ?
I really don't know what to do except downgrading to gentoo-sources-2.6.15.
Thanks

AMD Athlon 1.2 GHz
Xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6
ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1
ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]

PS : excuse my poor english :-(

Ptitjack


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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread fire-eyes
On Wednesday 26 April 2006 12:29, Ptitjack wrote:
 I have some problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 and ati-drivers.
 Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without any
 error message when logging out.
 Do you get that same trouble on your own ?
 I really don't know what to do except downgrading to gentoo-sources-2.6.15.
 Thanks

I had this problem with ati-drivers and, to make the story short, after 
countless hours of hacking with things left and right, in the end I gave up 
and went to xorg's radeon driver.

The only drawback is that it doesn't do 3d, or if it does, not easily.

So I either had to give up 3d, or sit and watch as my laptop froze EVERY 
single time i either 1) logged out of xorg 2) resumed from suspend to ram , 
both of which are extremely important daily activities.

Wish I could report a different result.

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all the stones, and all growing things, and all animals, the sparks of
their soul come out and cling to you. And then they are purified, and
become a holy fire in you. -- Ancient Hasidic Saying
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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Jacques Montier
fire-eyes a gentiment tapote:
 On Wednesday 26 April 2006 12:29, Ptitjack wrote:
   
 I have some problem with gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3 and ati-drivers.
 Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without any
 error message when logging out.
 Do you get that same trouble on your own ?
 I really don't know what to do except downgrading to gentoo-sources-2.6.15.
 Thanks
 

 I had this problem with ati-drivers and, to make the story short, after 
 countless hours of hacking with things left and right, in the end I gave up 
 and went to xorg's radeon driver.

 The only drawback is that it doesn't do 3d, or if it does, not easily.

 So I either had to give up 3d, or sit and watch as my laptop froze EVERY 
 single time i either 1) logged out of xorg 2) resumed from suspend to ram , 
 both of which are extremely important daily activities.

 Wish I could report a different result.

   
All right then,
so i stay with gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1 and ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1.
Everything 's working fine (loggin in and out , 3d), and i'll wait for
new ati-drivers.
Thanks for your answers,

cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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 On 4/26/06, *Ptitjack* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everything works fine when logging in, but my pc freezes without any
 error message when logging out.


 I have the exact same problem, with an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ and
 Radeon 9000 pro.


Hey, I got an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ and a Radeon 9000 Pro, so nearly the
same specs. And why do you use the ati-drivers?
I had exactly the same problem, so I didn't use them since then. The
xorg-driver radeon is great and should support 3D on the Radeon 9000
and since Xorg 7.X (and 6.9) on the 9600, too.
I can just tell you to use them, they ARE better. I got EXA by now
with them so I can use compositing and direct rendering at the same
time with very good performance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Ghislain Bourgeois
On 4/26/06, Jannis Achstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, I got an AMD Athlon XP 2000+ and a Radeon 9000 Pro, so nearly thesame specs. And why do you use the ati-drivers?It is actually the only way to play games like UT2004 that need ST3C (patented algorithm crap). 
I had exactly the same problem, so I didn't use them since then. Thexorg-driver radeon is great and should support 3D on the Radeon 9000
and since Xorg 7.X (and 6.9) on the 9600, too.I can just tell you to use them, they ARE better. I got EXA by nowwith them so I can use compositing and direct rendering at the sametime with very good performance.
I used them a while ago, but they were quite crappy. Can you do heavy 3D with them without pulling your hair out?-- Ghislain Bourgeois---Linux System administrator



Re: [gentoo-user] PC freeze with ati-drivers and gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r3

2006-04-26 Thread Jannis Achstetter
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 It is actually the only way to play games like UT2004 that need ST3C
 (patented algorithm crap).
Well, I play UT2K4 here and it works. It ain't super-blazing (1,6GHz,
512MB RAM, 128MB-Graphics-RAM so can't be too good for such hungry
games) but playable without any problems.

 I used them a while ago, but they were quite crappy. Can you do
 heavy 3D with them without pulling your hair out?
What do you mean by heavy 3D? Hardware-accelerated image-rendering
or games? I'm happy with 250FPS in Quake3Arena to be honest.

So  should I upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0-r1, activate the kernel ati radeon
and change fglrx to radeon in xorg.conf ?
Is that right ?

Thanks

--- Jacques --


I don't say you have to but if I were you I would:
- - update the xorg to 7.X
- - build agpgart for your chipset into the kernel
- - build the DRM for the ATI Radeon into the kernel
- - configure xorg to use the radeon-driver (This is not just changing
one line, you will have to reconfigure the whole section because the
different drivers use different parameters)

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