Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
This was my thread right before switching to lxde http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-928750-start-0.html i assume that everything is correct in my system. sometimes i use the one driver, sometimes the other. both have advantages against the other one, but gnome3 experience is always HELL. (fglrx wasnt working at all for months with gnome shell) dont know if this is fixed already On 10/16/2012 01:07 AM, walt wrote: On 10/15/2012 12:40 PM, mindrunner wrote: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series] Are you using the proprietary ati drivers? (x11-drivers/ati-drivers) If yes, does fgl_glxgears run okay? On 10/15/2012 02:23 PM, walt wrote: On 10/15/2012 12:24 AM, mindrunner wrote: Ive had soo many problem with gnome 3 (mainly performance), so i switched to lxde. The performance penalty can be due to old video hardware because both gnome-shell and cinnamon use video compositing for silly and unnecessary stuff like transparent windows.
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
On 10/15/2012 12:24 AM, mindrunner wrote: Ive had soo many problem with gnome 3 (mainly performance), so i switched to lxde. The performance penalty can be due to old video hardware because both gnome-shell and cinnamon use video compositing for silly and unnecessary stuff like transparent windows. In fact, I blame all the new problems with both gnome3 and kde4 on video compositing. All the whiz-bang kids doing desktop development are determined to use compositing anywhere they can possibly use it, even if it's silly. Just my grouchy old opinion, of course.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:23:44 -0700, walt wrote: In fact, I blame all the new problems with both gnome3 and kde4 on video compositing. All the whiz-bang kids doing desktop development are determined to use compositing anywhere they can possibly use it, even if it's silly. KDE has a checkbox to enable/disable it, and it is disabled by default if the system hardware is unsuitable. I agree about the unnecessary proliferation of hardware-hammering eye candy, but have no problems with it being there as long as it's optional. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
On Oct 15, 2012 2:59 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:23:44 -0700, walt wrote: In fact, I blame all the new problems with both gnome3 and kde4 on video compositing. All the whiz-bang kids doing desktop development are determined to use compositing anywhere they can possibly use it, even if it's silly. KDE has a checkbox to enable/disable it, and it is disabled by default if the system hardware is unsuitable. I agree about the unnecessary proliferation of hardware-hammering eye candy, but have no problems with it being there as long as it's optional. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. Hi, I have always loved gnome more than kde or anything else. About 2 years ago I had to use Windows till about 3 months ago, and I came back to gentoo and used gnome again. But I didn't feel that comfortable and home, so I tried kde and some other desktop environments, but these felt even worse. I found cinnamon and used it with gdm, what made me happy for a while. But I couldn't find an easy way to configure this system to my needs. I found no way to change the gdm background for example. I googled for a couple of days. So I tried to get rid of gnome, but I have some programmms, that use it. I use Openbox and slim now, I could configure it within half a day, and I'm happy now. By the way, I got used to tabbing terminal.in gnome-terminal, does someone know a tabbing terminal without gnome or kde or something this big? Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Randolph Maaßen
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
on 10/15/2012 05:41 PM Randolph Maaßen wrote the following: By the way, I got used to tabbing terminal.in http://terminal.in gnome-terminal, does someone know a tabbing terminal without gnome or kde or something this big? Try x11-terms/terminal
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
Try tabbed with urxvt (for example, or any other embeddable terminal) see suckless.org for more info about tabbed Jakub On 15 October 2012 21:14, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote: on 10/15/2012 05:41 PM Randolph Maaßen wrote the following: By the way, I got used to tabbing terminal.in http://terminal.in gnome-terminal, does someone know a tabbing terminal without gnome or kde or something this big? Try x11-terms/terminal
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series] i7-820QM 8GB-DDR3 On 10/15/2012 02:23 PM, walt wrote: On 10/15/2012 12:24 AM, mindrunner wrote: Ive had soo many problem with gnome 3 (mainly performance), so i switched to lxde. The performance penalty can be due to old video hardware because both gnome-shell and cinnamon use video compositing for silly and unnecessary stuff like transparent windows. In fact, I blame all the new problems with both gnome3 and kde4 on video compositing. All the whiz-bang kids doing desktop development are determined to use compositing anywhere they can possibly use it, even if it's silly. Just my grouchy old opinion, of course.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
you should try terminator, or guake if you want an alternate terminal. i am using both in combination (guake in luman-overlay, has applied some additional patches) lxde/openbox is very nice. slim and slimlock are working fine in combination with it. so there is no need for heavy gnome/kde desktops. if you want your old gnome 2.x dektop back, you should try mate, which is a fork of the last gnome 2.x stable branch. (there is mate-overlay) ;) (happy to see some other german gentoo users! :))) On 10/15/2012 04:41 PM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: On Oct 15, 2012 2:59 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 05:23:44 -0700, walt wrote: In fact, I blame all the new problems with both gnome3 and kde4 on video compositing. All the whiz-bang kids doing desktop development are determined to use compositing anywhere they can possibly use it, even if it's silly. KDE has a checkbox to enable/disable it, and it is disabled by default if the system hardware is unsuitable. I agree about the unnecessary proliferation of hardware-hammering eye candy, but have no problems with it being there as long as it's optional. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. Hi, I have always loved gnome more than kde or anything else. About 2 years ago I had to use Windows till about 3 months ago, and I came back to gentoo and used gnome again. But I didn't feel that comfortable and home, so I tried kde and some other desktop environments, but these felt even worse. I found cinnamon and used it with gdm, what made me happy for a while. But I couldn't find an easy way to configure this system to my needs. I found no way to change the gdm background for example. I googled for a couple of days. So I tried to get rid of gnome, but I have some programmms, that use it. I use Openbox and slim now, I could configure it within half a day, and I'm happy now. By the way, I got used to tabbing terminal.in http://terminal.in gnome-terminal, does someone know a tabbing terminal without gnome or kde or something this big? Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Randolph Maaßen
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome3 haters: you should try the new cinnamon-1.6.1
On 10/15/2012 12:40 PM, mindrunner wrote: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series] Are you using the proprietary ati drivers? (x11-drivers/ati-drivers) If yes, does fgl_glxgears run okay? On 10/15/2012 02:23 PM, walt wrote: On 10/15/2012 12:24 AM, mindrunner wrote: Ive had soo many problem with gnome 3 (mainly performance), so i switched to lxde. The performance penalty can be due to old video hardware because both gnome-shell and cinnamon use video compositing for silly and unnecessary stuff like transparent windows.
