Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
Hello,
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018, Walter Dnes wrote:
> Thanks; this could be interesting. Run "ps x", grep for specific
>commands in the output, read the pid at the start of the line, and
>autofreeze those processes..
Use 'pgrep [-u UID/USERNAME] pattern' or adjust ps output to only
display what interests you, e.g.:
$ ps -eo pid,cmd
$ ps -eo pid,cmd | awk '$2 ~ /pattern/ { print $1; }'
$ ps -eo pid,cmd | awk '$2 == "string" { print $1; }'
etc.
Or try 'pidof' (which needs the exact command-name and might return
mismatches).
HTH,
-dnh
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printk (KERN_DEBUG "Somebody wants the port\n");
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
Thanks; this could be interesting. Run "ps x", grep for specific commands in the output, read the pid at the start of the line, and autofreeze those processes.. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
I just noticed something "interesting". I don't know if it's strictly gnumeric under ICEWM, or if it's more generic. Open several gnumeric spreadsheets. Do not minimize, but open one over top of the other. Run "top" in an xterm in that same workspace... == top - 00:19:02 up 1:53, 11 users, load average: 2.45, 1.52, 0.85 Tasks: 138 total, 5 running, 133 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 89.0 us, 2.3 sy, 0.0 ni, 8.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 3027.5 total, 1799.7 free,616.7 used,611.1 buff/cache MiB Swap: 8971.0 total, 8971.0 free, 0.0 used. 2090.4 avail Mem PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2832 waltdnes 20 0 277520 177068 40224 S 27.9 5.7 14:43.80 gnumeric 3023 waltdnes 20 0 275568 177184 38972 R 24.6 5.7 3:56.60 gnumeric 2857 waltdnes 20 0 142636 99552 25156 R 21.9 3.2 10:17.00 gnumeric 3067 waltdnes 20 0 179712 83760 37612 R 17.6 2.7 2:41.60 gnumeric 2997 waltdnes 20 0 85600 42292 24940 S 16.6 1.4 2:59.22 gnumeric 3009 waltdnes 20 0 73508 39312 24936 S 16.6 1.3 2:45.92 gnumeric 3001 waltdnes 20 0 82096 38696 24940 S 16.3 1.2 2:53.78 gnumeric 3005 waltdnes 20 0 81976 38392 24628 S 16.3 1.2 2:48.61 gnumeric 2879 waltdnes 20 0 92976 45972 26060 S 12.6 1.5 5:23.20 gnumeric 2660 root 20 0 323680 95236 82776 S 12.3 3.1 3:26.55 X == ...but switch over to another workspace, and cpu usage plummets... == top - 00:23:27 up 1:57, 11 users, load average: 0.11, 0.84, 0.75 Tasks: 138 total, 1 running, 137 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie %Cpu(s): 0.2 us, 0.0 sy, 0.0 ni, 99.8 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st MiB Mem : 3027.5 total, 1920.0 free,616.4 used,491.1 buff/cache MiB Swap: 8971.0 total, 8971.0 free, 0.0 used. 2210.8 avail Mem PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 1 root 20 02392 1488 1408 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.76 init 2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 4 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kworker/0+ 6 root 0 -20 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 mm_percpu+ 7 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd+ 8 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.55 rcu_sched 9 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rcu_bh 10 root rt 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration+ 11 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpuhp/0 == Actually, minimizing all the spreadsheets and remaining in the same workspace similarly reduces cpu usage. Why would gnumeric spreadsheets be using cpu just sitting there, visible or behind another program? -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 9:40 PM Andrew Udvare wrote: > > YMMV on what processes will actually work properly after a SIGCONT. If > anything a process does is not re-entrant, then you could have very > unpredictable things happen including corruption of data. > If a process corrupts data of any significance after being stopped it should be considered a bug. Obviously if the process has sockets open there is a good chance that timeouts/etc will happen, and the process needs to handle that. However, the same is true if the network goes down/etc, or the system is suspended, or even if the system just gets really highly loaded and doesn't give the process much time. As others have pointed out, once the process stops running it is going to be a relatively high priority for swapping without having to try to do anything else to force things, and it won't come back unless you wake it up. -- Rich
Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
Den 02. juli 2018 11:34, skrev Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov: >> kill -s SIGSTOP >> kill -s SIGCONT > Although, such a "freezing" doesn't free any RAM :-/ > > > It will allow the process to be swapped out without provoking thrashing. Should work, plugins might give you some grief though.
Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
> kill -s SIGSTOP > kill -s SIGCONT Although, such a "freezing" doesn't free any RAM :-/
Re: [gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 9:16 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > There are some programs that I would much rather keep open, versus > shutting down and restarting all over again. But keeping them all open > uses resources, especially on a 10-year-old CORE2 with 3 gigabytes of > RAM (The thing refuses to die). Is there a way to forcibly swap out or > freeze a specific PID, until I need to get back to it again? > kill -s SIGSTOP to resume: kill -s SIGCONT man kill man 7 signal YMMV on what processes will actually work properly after a SIGCONT. If anything a process does is not re-entrant, then you could have very unpredictable things happen including corruption of data. Andrew
[gentoo-user] Any utility to forcibly freeze or swap out a specific pid?
If you run the command... ps axo %cpu,%mem,pid,cmd | grep -v "^.CPU" | sort -nr | head -n 10 ...you'll get a list of processes sorted by cpu and memory consumption. In my case, I get... [d531][waltdnes][~] ps axo %cpu,%mem,pid,cmd | grep -v "^.CPU" | sort -nr | head -n 10 43.6 12.4 13976 /home/waltdnes/pm/palemoon/palemoon -new-instance -p slashdot 1.0 4.2 2650 /usr/bin/X :0 -nosilk -config xorg.conf -auth /home/waltdnes/.serverauth.2629 0.9 6.8 5278 /home/waltdnes/pm/palemoon/palemoon -new-instance -p palemoon 0.8 7.0 7127 /home/waltdnes/pm/palemoon/palemoon -new-instance -p dslr 0.4 5.4 13912 /home/waltdnes/pm/palemoon/palemoon -new-instance -p graphs 0.1 30.2 4981 /usr/bin/gnumeric worldtemps/netair/danomnick1000.gnumeric 0.1 4.8 5383 /home/waltdnes/pm/palemoon/palemoon -new-instance -p puppy 0.0 5.2 6765 /usr/bin/gnumeric /home/waltdnes/worldtemps/solarflux/solarflux.gnumeric 0.0 2.5 5106 /usr/bin/gnumeric worldtemps/netair/monuah.gnumeric 0.0 2.5 5075 /usr/bin/gnumeric worldtemps/netair/monrss4.gnumeric There are some programs that I would much rather keep open, versus shutting down and restarting all over again. But keeping them all open uses resources, especially on a 10-year-old CORE2 with 3 gigabytes of RAM (The thing refuses to die). Is there a way to forcibly swap out or freeze a specific PID, until I need to get back to it again? -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
[gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my workspace, and random user files under my home directory across multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which makes daily incremental backups of my files to a separate disk with rsync. At the moment, I have my sync script set up as a Makefile with the following targets. I run this from multiple workstations. It would be nice to use something as easy as svn, but many of my files are binary. Or something like dropbox would be great. I don't work from windows, so I don't need a cross-platform solution. What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order and might move the Makefile to an interactive script to protect against that. I have to call 'make clobber' after I remove a local file to push that change to the server, and if I forgot to call 'make get' first, I have to fix it manually. ---sync makefile get: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) $(LOCAL_DIR) put: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) clobber: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) --end--- ---backup script # if files are already there, hard link # the last lines mark it as complete and move a soft link pointer rsync -zavi --progress --delete \ --link-dest=$BACKUP_PATH/current \ $SOURCE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE \ mv $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE \ unlink $BACKUP_PATH/current \ ln -s $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/current ---end- Randy
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Randy Westlund rwest...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my workspace, and random user files under my home directory across multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which makes daily incremental backups of my files to a separate disk with rsync. At the moment, I have my sync script set up as a Makefile with the following targets. I run this from multiple workstations. It would be nice to use something as easy as svn, but many of my files are binary. Or something like dropbox would be great. I don't work from windows, so I don't need a cross-platform solution. What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order and might move the Makefile to an interactive script to protect against that. I have to call 'make clobber' after I remove a local file to push that change to the server, and if I forgot to call 'make get' first, I have to fix it manually. Dunno if it's of any value but the new Linux Journal has a pointer to grsync which is in portage and built fine on my system here. It looks interesting in that you can create 'sessions' which probably could do much of what at least I'm doing in simple rsync scripts. I'm going to play with it a bit more but thought I'd point it out as I hadn't heard of it before. HTH, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 12:21:40PM -0500, Randy Westlund wrote: I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my workspace, and random user files under my home directory across multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which makes daily incremental backups of my files to a separate disk with rsync. At the moment, I have my sync script set up as a Makefile with the following targets. I run this from multiple workstations. It would be nice to use something as easy as svn, but many of my files are binary. Or something like dropbox would be great. I don't work from windows, so I don't need a cross-platform solution. What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order and might move the Makefile to an interactive script to protect against that. I have to call 'make clobber' after I remove a local file to push that change to the server, and if I forgot to call 'make get' first, I have to fix it manually. ---sync makefile get: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) $(LOCAL_DIR) put: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) clobber: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) --end--- ---backup script # if files are already there, hard link # the last lines mark it as complete and move a soft link pointer rsync -zavi --progress --delete \ --link-dest=$BACKUP_PATH/current \ $SOURCE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE \ mv $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE \ unlink $BACKUP_PATH/current \ ln -s $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/current ---end- Randy What about Network File System (NFS)? Our little wiki has an article: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NFSv4 -- haven't read it yet, though. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
As soon as you said svn I got the idea you want revisions of files you send to storage, which is a fine idea. Backups are fine, but if you have to work at the granularity of yesterday or maybe the day before it can become cumbersome. To my mind the first question to answer is how do you want to commit these files to a revision control system. This determines what you do next. If you want it file-by-file, then getting a single file is a simple svn checkout, but rolling everything back to yesterday (eg for when you accidentally did an rm on .kde or .mail) will be tricky. To do this, commit the files to remote svn and just put up with the hassles of the binary files. Yes, I know binary in SVN is amazingly evil and makes the worst ever out of Redmond look like child's play, but sometimes you have no choice... Or use a revision control system that can deal with binaries OK. All depends on what *you* need stuff to do. If you are happy committing an entire Makefile run and are OK to work with that, then you use an FS (or LVM) that can do snapshots, and make one as the last command in your Makefile. Restores are a case of mount the snapshot, find the file of interest and do what you need with it. It really comes down to the old story of precisely define first what exactly you want to achieve and then the tools to do that often present themselves. On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:21:40 -0500 Randy Westlund rwest...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my workspace, and random user files under my home directory across multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which makes daily incremental backups of my files to a separate disk with rsync. At the moment, I have my sync script set up as a Makefile with the following targets. I run this from multiple workstations. It would be nice to use something as easy as svn, but many of my files are binary. Or something like dropbox would be great. I don't work from windows, so I don't need a cross-platform solution. What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order and might move the Makefile to an interactive script to protect against that. I have to call 'make clobber' after I remove a local file to push that change to the server, and if I forgot to call 'make get' first, I have to fix it manually. ---sync makefile get: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) $(LOCAL_DIR) put: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) clobber: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) --end--- ---backup script # if files are already there, hard link # the last lines mark it as complete and move a soft link pointer rsync -zavi --progress --delete \ --link-dest=$BACKUP_PATH/current \ $SOURCE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE \ mv $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE \ unlink $BACKUP_PATH/current \ ln -s $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/current ---end- Randy -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:21:40 -0500, Randy Westlund wrote: What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order net-misc/unison Think of it as a two-way rsync. It keeps track of what has changed and been synced on each host and makes changes in both directions on a single run. If you add or modify a file on one side, it copies it over. If you delete a file on one side it deletes if from the other and if you modify a file on both sides since the last run, it asks what you want to do (or skips the file if running non-interactively). -- Neil Bothwick c:Press Enter to Exit signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
On 12/2/2012 14:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:21:40 -0500, Randy Westlund wrote: What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order net-misc/unison I use unison to emulate Windows's offline files feature for several subdirectories in ~, and I can say it works really well. It took me quite some time to understand all of its options, and it has some very strange behavioral quirks which are easily worked around, but I like the what I ended up with. I currently have it set up to automatically synchronize a couple of locations on my notebook with a share on my file server about every five minutes. If the server is unavailable (i.e. I am not at home), it exits silently, but will try again at the next scheduled time. In the event of file conflicts (i.e. I changed the same file on the server and on the notebook between syncs), it sends me an email listing the conflicting filenames, and I can look into it later. -- ♫Dustin
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Dustin C. Hatch admiraln...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/2/2012 14:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:21:40 -0500, Randy Westlund wrote: What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order net-misc/unison I use unison to emulate Windows's offline files feature for several subdirectories in ~, and I can say it works really well. It took me quite some time to understand all of its options, and it has some very strange behavioral quirks which are easily worked around, but I like the what I ended up with. I currently have it set up to automatically synchronize a couple of locations on my notebook with a share on my file server about every five minutes. If the server is unavailable (i.e. I am not at home), it exits silently, but will try again at the next scheduled time. In the event of file conflicts (i.e. I changed the same file on the server and on the notebook between syncs), it sends me an email listing the conflicting filenames, and I can look into it later. -- ♫Dustin Unison is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks, Neil and Dustin. Randy
Re: [gentoo-user] What utility do you use to sync user files?
Here is a good example on using rsync http://rsync.samba.org/examples.html I've modified the first one for 7-days incremental backup. -- Joseph On 12/02/12 12:21, Randy Westlund wrote: I've been using rsync to sync binary files, shell scripts, my workspace, and random user files under my home directory across multiple machines. I'm using one server as the master copy, which makes daily incremental backups of my files to a separate disk with rsync. At the moment, I have my sync script set up as a Makefile with the following targets. I run this from multiple workstations. It would be nice to use something as easy as svn, but many of my files are binary. Or something like dropbox would be great. I don't work from windows, so I don't need a cross-platform solution. What utilities do you guys use? Is there a better way to do this? It would be nice to move everything to the background, but I've already clobbered a few files by calling this in the wrong order and might move the Makefile to an interactive script to protect against that. I have to call 'make clobber' after I remove a local file to push that change to the server, and if I forgot to call 'make get' first, I have to fix it manually. ---sync makefile get: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) $(LOCAL_DIR) put: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) clobber: rsync -azOuvihh --progress -e ssh $(EXCLUDE) \ --delete \ $(LOCAL_DIR) $(HOST):$(SERVER_DIR) --end--- ---backup script # if files are already there, hard link # the last lines mark it as complete and move a soft link pointer rsync -zavi --progress --delete \ --link-dest=$BACKUP_PATH/current \ $SOURCE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE \ mv $BACKUP_PATH/backup_part_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE \ unlink $BACKUP_PATH/current \ ln -s $BACKUP_PATH/backup_$DATE $BACKUP_PATH/current ---end- Randy
[gentoo-user] at utility
Hello list, I have the at utility described in my man pages but can't find it and don't know what package it came from; if it is indeed in my system. Does anyone know? Thanks, -- Valmor Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.6, glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.12.5 i686) = System uname: 2.6.12.5 i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.66GHz Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13 dev-lang/python: 2.3.5, 2.4.2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r6 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r10 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.20 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/env /usr/kde/3.3/share/config /usr/kde/3.3/shutdown /usr/kde/4.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref /usr/share/config /usr/share/texmf/dvipdfm/config/ /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/config/ /usr/share/texmf/tex/platex/config/ /usr/share/texmf/xdvi/ /var/qmail/control CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium4 -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo http://212.219.56.131/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo; MAKEOPTS=-j3 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X Xaw3d alsa arts avi berkdb bitmap-fonts crypt cups curl doc eds emboss encode esd fam fftw foomaticdb fortran gb gd gdbm gif gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hdf5 imagemagick imlib ipv6 java jpeg kde lapack lesstif libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mozilla mp3 mpeg mysql ncurses netcdf nls ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl plotutils png python qt quicktime readline samba sdl slang spell ssl svga tcltk tcpd tetex tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev usb vorbis xinerama xml xml2 xmms xv zlib userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] at utility
On Thursday 13 April 2006 17:45, de Almeida, Valmor F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] at utility': I have the at utility described in my man pages but can't find it and don't know what package it came from; if it is indeed in my system. Does anyone know? U sys-process/at [GPL-2]: Queues jobs for later execution Possibly? I also have the man pages but not the app. I wonder why they are in separate packages. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpuaZSoh8U3V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] at utility
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:45:29PM -0400, Penguin Lover de Almeida, Valmor F. squawked: I have the at utility described in my man pages but can't find it and don't know what package it came from; if it is indeed in my system. Does anyone know? sys-process/at W -- Smart man + Smart woman = romance Smart man + Dumb woman = affair Dumb man + Smart woman = marriage Dumb man + Dumb woman = pregnancy Sortir en Pantoufles: up 152 days, 15:55 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] at utility
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:21:26PM -0500, Penguin Lover Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. squawked: U sys-process/at [GPL-2]: Queues jobs for later execution Possibly? I also have the man pages but not the app. I wonder why they are in separate packages. That is bizarre. I have the program installed, and it does provide its own man page: [07:38 PM]wwong man1 $ equery belongs at.1.gz [ Searching for file(s) at.1.gz in *... ] sys-process/at-3.1.8-r11 (/usr/share/man/man1/at.1.gz) But, on the other hand [07:40 PM]wwong man $ equery belongs man1p/at.1p.gz [ Searching for file(s) man1p/at.1p.gz in *... ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.28 (/usr/share/man/man1p/at.1p.gz) 'man 1 at' and 'man 1p at' does also provide rather different contents. The manpage suggest that the latter (belonging to the man-pages package) is part of the POSIX Programmer's Manual. W -- Fortunately, this is where we stop, for the equations of motion are 2nd order. If it were 5th order you'd all probably switch to biology. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 152 days, 16:04 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
