Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2016-06-22 um 20:42 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:


Stefan, could you please show us the contents of
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf? In the early stages of
systemd's integration in Gentoo, it was necessary to disable some
plugins that tried to set /etc/conf.d/network as configuration file
for NetworkManager. I don't know if it's related to your system
connections not appearing in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections.


may I tell you a secret?
The laptops run fedora :-P

if you still listen: the NetworkManager.conf contains only commented lines.

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> Am 2016-06-22 um 06:50 schrieb J. García:
>
>> Apparently they are stored in the gnome-keyring if you set up the
>> conection to
>> 'Store the password for this user' when using nm-applet, but stored in
>> /etc/NewtorkManager/system-connections/ as plain text when you select
>> 'all
>> users may connect to this network' (I don't know the exact options
>> name, I'm
>> using networkd, so I couldn't check) but look at this[1]
>> I guess there should be a way to backup and restore the gnome-keyring.
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Encrypted_Wi-Fi
>> _passwords
>
>
> added one ESSID today, with "share with others" (or similar, german here)
> ... nothing in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
>
> If I open my keyring-application I can't see any SSIDs/PSKs.
>
> What ever. I can re-add them step by step.
>
> Ah, nm-connection-editor shows them!
> But which files does it read/write?
>
> using Neil's suggestion with the "find -newer" ...
>
> /home/sgw/.local/share/keyrings/user.keystore looks suspicious.
>
> I will backup that one and sync it over from another laptop.
>
> Is that what they call "hacking" already? :-P

Stefan, could you please show us the contents of
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf? In the early stages of
systemd's integration in Gentoo, it was necessary to disable some
plugins that tried to set /etc/conf.d/network as configuration file
for NetworkManager. I don't know if it's related to your system
connections not appearing in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections.

Regards.
-- 
Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de Carrera Asociado C
Departamento de Matemáticas
Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2016-06-22 um 06:50 schrieb J. García:


Apparently they are stored in the gnome-keyring if you set up the
conection to
'Store the password for this user' when using nm-applet, but stored in
/etc/NewtorkManager/system-connections/ as plain text when you select
'all
users may connect to this network' (I don't know the exact options
name, I'm
using networkd, so I couldn't check) but look at this[1]
I guess there should be a way to backup and restore the gnome-keyring.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Encrypted_Wi-Fi
_passwords


added one ESSID today, with "share with others" (or similar, german 
here) ... nothing in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections


If I open my keyring-application I can't see any SSIDs/PSKs.

What ever. I can re-add them step by step.

Ah, nm-connection-editor shows them!
But which files does it read/write?

using Neil's suggestion with the "find -newer" ...

/home/sgw/.local/share/keyrings/user.keystore looks suspicious.

I will backup that one and sync it over from another laptop.

Is that what they call "hacking" already? :-P

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[J.]

El mar, 21-06-2016 a las 22:43 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger escribió:
> 
> I had found that info as well, but that directory is simply *empty*
> on
> my laptops. So there has to be something in $home somewhere.
> 
> gnome-keyring?
> 
Apparently they are stored in the gnome-keyring if you set up the
conection to
'Store the password for this user' when using nm-applet, but stored in
/etc/NewtorkManager/system-connections/ as plain text when you select
'all
users may connect to this network' (I don't know the exact options
name, I'm
using networkd, so I couldn't check) but look at this[1]
I guess there should be a way to backup and restore the gnome-keyring.

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Encrypted_Wi-Fi
_passwords

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:14:40 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

> not found in both .config or .local, sorry ;-)
> 
> I'd love to simply rsync $that_one_subdir to the new system and be done.

touch now
change wireless settings
find ~ -newer now


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Ifyoucanreadthis,youspendtoomuchtimefiguringouttaglines.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Alan McKinnon]

On 21/06/2016 09:57, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:


Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my
wifi credentials?

I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs
at customers.






Surely the password is kept in an encrypted wallet?

Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2016-06-21 um 23:03 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:

> Go to the network settings, and set the wireless connection as "shared
> with other users". Then it will appear in
> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections.
> 
> If you don't want to share the connection with other users, do something like
> 
> find $HOME/.config -name "*ESSID*"
> 
> where ESSID is the ESSID you are interested in. The prefix '*' is
> because a while ago NM added the name "Auto" to all wireless networks
> that were set to automatically connect. If ~/.config does not work,
> use ~/.local (I don't have my laptop with me, so I cannot check which
> one it is).

not found in both .config or .local, sorry ;-)

I'd love to simply rsync $that_one_subdir to the new system and be done.

thanks, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
> Am 2016-06-21 um 12:05 schrieb Tom H:
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my
>>> wifi credentials?
>>>
>>> I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs
>>> at customers.
>>
>> Unless Gnome changes the default (which I doubt), it's
>>
>> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
>
> I had found that info as well, but that directory is simply *empty* on
> my laptops. So there has to be something in $home somewhere.
>
> gnome-keyring?
>
> I could simply rsync all dotfiles/directories in $home .. but that is
> not cool and puts cruft onto the new system.

Go to the network settings, and set the wireless connection as "shared
with other users". Then it will appear in
/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections.

If you don't want to share the connection with other users, do something like

find $HOME/.config -name "*ESSID*"

where ESSID is the ESSID you are interested in. The prefix '*' is
because a while ago NM added the name "Auto" to all wireless networks
that were set to automatically connect. If ~/.config does not work,
use ~/.local (I don't have my laptop with me, so I cannot check which
one it is).

Regards.
-- 
Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de Carrera Asociado C
Departamento de Matemáticas
Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2016-06-21 um 12:05 schrieb Tom H:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my
>> wifi credentials?
>>
>> I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs
>> at customers.
> 
> Unless Gnome changes the default (which I doubt), it's
> 
> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/

I had found that info as well, but that directory is simply *empty* on
my laptops. So there has to be something in $home somewhere.

gnome-keyring?

I could simply rsync all dotfiles/directories in $home .. but that is
not cool and puts cruft onto the new system.

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Tom H]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger  wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my
> wifi credentials?
>
> I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs
> at customers.

Unless Gnome changes the default (which I doubt), it's

/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/

[gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my
wifi credentials?

I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs
at customers.

[gentoo-user] gnome-3 extensions and portage

[Allan Gottlieb]

I have merged gnome-shell-extensions and eselect-gnome-shell-extensions.

There are of course many other extensions listed in 
extensions.gnome.org and they are easy to (un-)install.  I was just
wondering if any were packaged into ebuilds beyon
gnome-extra/gnome-shell-extensions.

thanks,
allan

[gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Online Accounts

[Carlos Sura]

Hello,

I am using now Gnome 3, and I found very intesting and useful the option
for online accounts however, I would like to add my Google account, but I
just can't. I've been searching thru Google and Gentoo Forums on how to fix
the error I am getting, but I have not found any useful or any fix yet. I
want to know if any of you has suceffuly added a Google account or isn't
working at all on Gentoo? Since, I tried on Fedora and seems to be working
cool.


Here is the picture of the error I am getting when I try to add my account:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4636/errorty.jpg

I am using ~AM64, and I've set the gnome-desktop profile (as in the Gentoo
Forum suggested)


Is there something missing?

Thanks.

-- 
Carlos Sura.-
www.carlossura.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Online Accounts

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Carlos Sura
carlos.su...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I am using now Gnome 3, and I found very intesting and useful the option for
 online accounts however, I would like to add my Google account, but I just
 can't. I've been searching thru Google and Gentoo Forums on how to fix the
 error I am getting, but I have not found any useful or any fix yet. I want
 to know if any of you has suceffuly added a Google account or isn't working
 at all on Gentoo? Since, I tried on Fedora and seems to be working cool.

I have my Google Account working with GNOME 3, but I set it months
ago. I don't remember any problem doing it, and now it works (at least
mail wih Evolution; with Empathy tells me that I have a network
error).

 Here is the picture of the error I am getting when I try to add my
 account: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4636/errorty.jpg

 I am using ~AM64, and I've set the gnome-desktop profile (as in the Gentoo
 Forum suggested)


 Is there something missing?

We have too little information to help you. What versions of gnome,
gnome-shell, gnome-online-accounts, empathy, evolution do you have?
What use flags? When was your last sync?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Online Accounts

[Alecks Gates]

On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 12:00 -0600, Carlos Sura wrote:

 Hello,
 
 
 
 I am using now Gnome 3, and I found very intesting and useful the
 option for online accounts however, I would like to add my Google
 account, but I just can't. I've been searching thru Google and Gentoo
 Forums on how to fix the error I am getting, but I have not found any
 useful or any fix yet. I want to know if any of you has suceffuly
 added a Google account or isn't working at all on Gentoo? Since, I
 tried on Fedora and seems to be working cool.
 
 
 
 
 Here is the picture of the error I am getting when I try to add my
 account: http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4636/errorty.jpg
 
 
 I am using ~AM64, and I've set the gnome-desktop profile (as in the
 Gentoo Forum suggested)
 
 
 
 
 Is there something missing?
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 Carlos Sura.-
 www.carlossura.com
 
 
 
I have it working properly, but since I set up 2-step verification (and
the Authenticator app on Android) I had to make some individual
passwords for some of the applications... basically here's a list of the
passwords I had to set up:
Gentoo laptop Empathy
Gentoo laptop Evolution mail
Gentoo laptop Evolution
Gentoo laptop Evolution calendar

For Google Chat and Gmail,calendar etc.

I don't know if this helps, but I figured it might be useful for someone
eventually.

Alecks

[gentoo-user] Gnome 3 + Notification Daemon [OFFTOPIC]

[Carlos Sura]

Hello mates,

I'm using now Gnome 3,
Whenever I login and when I'm connected to my wifi router I get a
notification message, I clicked Don't show this message again.

Is there a way to revert this action, I mean I want to be notified when
connected to a network.

But I clicked accidentally in don't show this message again

-- 
Carlos Sura.-
www.carlossura.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Maximilian Bräutigam]

Am 30.11.2011 13:24, schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:
 glxinfo -l | grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE

Hi Michael,

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE = 1024

is this enough?

Kind regards,
der Max

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Maximilian Bräutigam]

Am 30.11.2011 12:57, schrieb Albert W. Hopkins:
 On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 10:11 +0100, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote:
 (2) Mesa is built with gallium and it is enables using eselect.
 
 AFAIK intel drivers didn't work (well) with gallium, at least I
 checked[1].
 
 Anyway you might want to try the classic.  Works for me.
 
 [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=ODE0OQ

Wow, it's working. Thanks a lot, Albert!
Kind regards,
Max

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi,

Am Donnerstag, 8. Dezember 2011, 10:30:14 schrieb Maximilian Bräutigam:
 Am 30.11.2011 13:24, schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:
  glxinfo -l | grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
 
 Hi Michael,
 
 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE = 1024
 
 is this enough?

don't think so. Afaik gnome-shell composes the desktop into a large texture. 
If your screen resolution exceeds 1024 in width or height (I assume it does), 
the screen does not fit into the maximum texture available on your hardware.

 Kind regards,
 der Max

Best,
Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Maximilian Bräutigam]

Am 30.11.2011 13:24, schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:
 Hi,
 
 Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2011, 10:11:04 schrieb Maximilian Bräutigam:
 My question is, whether it is possible to increase this
 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE or not and if so, how.
 
 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is limited by your video-card. Afaik, there's no way to 
 increase it as it's given by the HW.
 What does
 glxinfo -l | grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
 give?
 
 Thank you very much in advance for your help.
 Kind regards,
 der Max
 
 Best,
 Michael
 
 

Thank you very much Michael and Albert,

since it's a problem of my PC at work I'll try things out next week and
give you the values of MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE soon.

BTW, at home everything is working like a charm where I'm using
ati-drivers and a proper xorg.conf. There are just some graphical
corruptions when it comes to popups and dialog boxes, the content of
which is stretched to the lower left corner which makes reading
extremely heavy, but this is worth another thread if I cannot fix it. I
mean from top to bottom each line of pixels is moved 1 px to the left
and the first one is appended on the right side.

Kind regards, I'll answer you soon,
der Max

[gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Maximilian Bräutigam]

Dear all,

I'd really like to switch to or at least test Gnome 3, but not the
fallback version. But that's everything I get.

Running /usr/libexec/gnome-session-check-accelerated-helper gives me the
clue:
gnome-session-is-accelerated: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

Searching for it in the internet is not very helpful, just some Spanish
Debian mailing list entries. The Gentoo Gnome upgrade guide is not
helpful as well and I did everything according to this guide, i.e.

(1) I'm using open source xserver driver x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
with VIDEO_CARDS=intel and mesa with use of video_cards_intel.

(2) Mesa is built with gallium and it is enables using eselect.

(3) direct rendering is enabled:
# glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes

You can find my emerge --info here:

http://paste.pocoo.org/show/514796/

BTW, VGA controller is according to lspci just VGA compatible
controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 02) and the processor is Intel(R) Core(TM) i3.

My question is, whether it is possible to increase this
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE or not and if so, how.

Thank you very much in advance for your help.
Kind regards,
der Max

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 30. November 2011, 10:11:04 schrieb Maximilian Bräutigam:
 My question is, whether it is possible to increase this
 GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE or not and if so, how.

GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is limited by your video-card. Afaik, there's no way to 
increase it as it's given by the HW.
What does
glxinfo -l | grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
give?

 Thank you very much in advance for your help.
 Kind regards,
 der Max

Best,
Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3: GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE is too small.

[Albert W. Hopkins]

On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 10:11 +0100, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote:
 (2) Mesa is built with gallium and it is enables using eselect.

AFAIK intel drivers didn't work (well) with gallium, at least I
checked[1].

Anyway you might want to try the classic.  Works for me.

[1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=ODE0OQ

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 26.11.2011 23:11, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
 
 Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of
 gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of
 the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting?

 I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ...  ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as
 well).
 
 I think I will keep on masking ...

For reference/testing/review:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-903192.html

brought me to the package.mask I use right now (posting by golagoda).

Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Frank Steinmetzger]

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11:27PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:

 Right now I use some package.mask-list from a posting in the
 gentoo-forums  I'd be happy if the maintainers would provide us with
 a way to easily chose to stay w/ gnome-3 somehow (without maintaining a
 long list of packages to mask).
 
 Stefan
 

Though I don’t use either Gnome version, I believe that we are quite safe with
Gentoo for a while longer, as compared with most other distros out there. At
least that is what I remember from my KDE experience; (almost) all distros
jumped on the KDE 4 waggon as soon as the still unusable 4.1 and let KDE 3
fall instantly without alternative.

OTOH, Gentoo remained with KDE3 as the main version for a comparably long time,
and I am very grateful for that. And even after KDE4 became “stable” in
portage, we could still use both in parallel for even longer before KDE3 was
finally removed from portage. I think I made the final and complete switch as
late as 4.3 or 4.4.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Allan Gottlieb]

On Mon, Nov 28 2011, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

 Though I don’t use either Gnome version, I believe that we are quite safe with
 Gentoo for a while longer, as compared with most other distros out there. At
 least that is what I remember from my KDE experience; (almost) all distros
 jumped on the KDE 4 waggon as soon as the still unusable 4.1 and let KDE 3
 fall instantly without alternative.

 OTOH, Gentoo remained with KDE3 as the main version for a comparably
 long time, and I am very grateful for that. And even after KDE4 became
 “stable” in portage, we could still use both in parallel for even
 longer before KDE3 was finally removed from portage. I think I made
 the final and complete switch as late as 4.3 or 4.4.

See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-903280.html, which I believe is
a good read.

One quote

5. Will gnome-2 still be supported?

For a limited time. We will support gnome-2 until gnome-3.x is
stabilized. After gnome-3.x is marked stable, which will happen at
some point in 2012, gnome-2 will be removed. We do not have the
man-hours needed to properly support two major versions of gnome.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Lorenzo Bandieri]

 I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back,
 along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome-
 shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old
 applets.)

 If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info
 function in System Settings.  Click the Graphics icon and enable the
 gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell.  Ah, much better :)


I don't know if this can be useful for you, however: having a box with
debian, I read the debian ML, too. Two weeks ago (if I remember
correctly) gnome 3 landed in testing, resulting in many discussions.
Among these, I remember that a few people claimed that fallback mode
is only a temporary solution, and, sooner or later, it'll be removed.
I don't know if it's true or not, but maybe this information can be
valuable (or worth verification) for those that are going to run gnome
3 in fallback mode... FYI only.

Cheers,

Lorenzo
-- 
Nothing is interesting if you're not interested.

[gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[walt]

Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now.  I have
mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox
VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later.

The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far)
I find it counterproductive.

I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back,
along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome-
shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old
applets.)

If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info
function in System Settings.  Click the Graphics icon and enable the
gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell.  Ah, much better :)

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Vishnupradeep]

Is that true, Gnome 3 available for gentoo. can i emerge it ?


Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/
My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/




On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:37 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now.  I have
 mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox
 VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later.

 The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far)
 I find it counterproductive.

 I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back,
 along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome-
 shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old
 applets.)

 If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info
 function in System Settings.  Click the Graphics icon and enable the
 gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell.  Ah, much better :)

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2011-11-26 21:07, schrieb walt:

 The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far)
 I find it counterproductive.
 
 I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back,
 along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome-
 shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old
 applets.)
 
 If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info
 function in System Settings.  Click the Graphics icon and enable the
 gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell.  Ah, much better :)

Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of
gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of
the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting?

I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ...  ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as
well).

Thanks, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

 Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of
 gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of
 the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting?
 
 I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ...  ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as
 well).

I think I will keep on masking ...

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html for example
tells me there are no applets, no desktop-behavior that I am used to.

Right now I use some package.mask-list from a posting in the
gentoo-forums  I'd be happy if the maintainers would provide us with
a way to easily chose to stay w/ gnome-3 somehow (without maintaining a
long list of packages to mask).

Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[covici]

Vishnupradeep intermedia.vis...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is that true, Gnome 3 available for gentoo. can i emerge it ?
 
 
 Fedora Blog: http://xtreme-fedora.blogspot.com/
 My Blog: http://sharedonweb.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:37 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now.  I have
  mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox
  VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later.
 
  The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far)
  I find it counterproductive.
 
  I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back,
  along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome-
  shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old
  applets.)
 
  If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info
  function in System Settings.  Click the Graphics icon and enable the
  gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell.  Ah, much better :)
 

What do I have to mask to prevent this for the time being?

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

[Mark Knecht]

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, at least on ~x86 and ~amd64 gnome3 is the default now.  I have
 mixed feelings about gnome3, so I let gentoo install it on a VirtualBox
 VM to start with and I'll think about updating my real machines later.

 The new gnome-shell is the controversial piece of gnome3 and (so far)
 I find it counterproductive.

 I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back,
 along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome-
 shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old
 applets.)

 If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info
 function in System Settings.  Click the Graphics icon and enable the
 gnome-fallback setting to disable gnome-shell.  Ah, much better :)

Slashdot today had an announcement of a Linux Mint 12 release which
notably had comments about something called Mint Gnome Shell
Extensions which supposedly lets them use Gnome 3 with a 'Gnome 2-Like
Experience'. (How's that for marketing?!?)

Maybe there's something there that could help you?

Cheers,
Mark

[gentoo-user] Gnome 3 is stable?

[Nilesh Govindarajan]

The gnome project's latest stable release is gnome 3.2
Why don't we have a proper method to install gnome 3.2 yet in gentoo?
Using overlays is pretty messy and requires lot of work

-- 
Nilesh Govindarajan
http://nileshgr.com

[gentoo-user] Gnome 3 upgrade

[akio.tam...@gmail.com]

Hi,

I would like to upgrade from gnome 2 to gnome 3.
However I could not find any procedure on google. At least a smooth one.
I have already add the gnome overlay but still getting version 2.32 as the
gnome package to be emerged.

Thank you in advance,
Akio

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 3 upgrade

[David Abbott]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:05 AM, akio.tam...@gmail.com
akio.tam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I would like to upgrade from gnome 2 to gnome 3.
 However I could not find any procedure on google. At least a smooth one.
 I have already add the gnome overlay but still getting version 2.32 as the
 gnome package to be emerged.

 Thank you in advance,
 Akio

This may help;

http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/gnome.git;a=blob;f=README

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Allan Gottlieb]

On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Thank you.  Some forum posts suggest that upgrading to gnome3 from
 gnome2 is difficult.  Did you

 1.  Upgrade from 2.32.1
 2.  Unmerge 2.32.1 then merge 3
 3.  Do a fresh install of gentoo w/o gnome and then install gnome3
 4.  Do something else

 All of the above? :D

 I keyworded and unmasked the necessary packages to make
 =gnome-base/gnome-3.0.0 emergable; then I upgraded like usual. There
 were some problems, but usually solvable by emerge -C the offending
 package (and older version, generally). I removed (after backup)
 ~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2* ~/.metacity ~/.nautilus and ~/.evolution (I
 *think* this was not really necessary, by I wanted to see a pristine
 GNOME 3). At the end, I emerge --depclean, and then after a couple of
 emerge -uDNvp world everything went to normal. I haven't had  any
 problem since then.

 Oh, at some point I emerge @preserved-rebuild and then again emerge
 --depclean.

 It took a couple of days of try/error, and be warned that you should
 do this fom a VT, not from X (unless you do it under twm or something
 like that).

Thanks again for sharing your experiences.
allan

[gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Allan Gottlieb]

Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try
gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared.

This is gnome 3 vs gnome 2 (not kde).

thanks,
allan

PS my system is ~amd64.

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try
 gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared.

 This is gnome 3 vs gnome 2 (not kde).

 thanks,
 allan

 PS my system is ~amd64.

I actually like it a lot. However, a lot of things are not
customizable, and several other things behave completely different
from GNOME 2. I've been using it since the last month or so, and I
think I'm already used to the new UI. I believe it's a little faster
than GNOME 2, and it definitely get less in the way to actually do
work.

Just my opinion. Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Allan Gottlieb]

On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try
 gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared.

 thanks,
 allan

 PS my system is ~amd64.

 I actually like it a lot. However, a lot of things are not
 customizable, and several other things behave completely different
 from GNOME 2. I've been using it since the last month or so, and I
 think I'm already used to the new UI. I believe it's a little faster
 than GNOME 2, and it definitely get less in the way to actually do
 work.

Thank you.  Some forum posts suggest that upgrading to gnome3 from
gnome2 is difficult.  Did you

1.  Upgrade from 2.32.1
2.  Unmerge 2.32.1 then merge 3
3.  Do a fresh install of gentoo w/o gnome and then install gnome3
4.  Do something else

thanks again,
allan

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try
 gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared.

 thanks,
 allan

 PS my system is ~amd64.

 I actually like it a lot. However, a lot of things are not
 customizable, and several other things behave completely different
 from GNOME 2. I've been using it since the last month or so, and I
 think I'm already used to the new UI. I believe it's a little faster
 than GNOME 2, and it definitely get less in the way to actually do
 work.

 Thank you.  Some forum posts suggest that upgrading to gnome3 from
 gnome2 is difficult.  Did you

 1.  Upgrade from 2.32.1
 2.  Unmerge 2.32.1 then merge 3
 3.  Do a fresh install of gentoo w/o gnome and then install gnome3
 4.  Do something else

All of the above? :D

I keyworded and unmasked the necessary packages to make
=gnome-base/gnome-3.0.0 emergable; then I upgraded like usual. There
were some problems, but usually solvable by emerge -C the offending
package (and older version, generally). I removed (after backup)
~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2* ~/.metacity ~/.nautilus and ~/.evolution (I
*think* this was not really necessary, by I wanted to see a pristine
GNOME 3). At the end, I emerge --depclean, and then after a couple of
emerge -uDNvp world everything went to normal. I haven't had  any
problem since then.

Oh, at some point I emerge @preserved-rebuild and then again emerge --depclean.

It took a couple of days of try/error, and be warned that you should
do this fom a VT, not from X (unless you do it under twm or something
like that).

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Bill Kenworthy]

On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 12:14 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Since I don't teach again until sept, this seems like a good time to try
 gnome 3.  Before I do, I wonder how others have fared.
 
 This is gnome 3 vs gnome 2 (not kde).
 
 thanks,
 allan
 
 PS my system is ~amd64.
 

I am in the same situation - a month or so to sort out any problems so
its time to make the leap now.

I have used gnome for the last 10 years and its often t'd me off so much
I have almost, but not quite made the jump to KDE (I did install KDE on
all my desktops though :)

Some of my colleagues are using unity on ubuntu and that looks nice
and suits my workflow more than the current gnome, and far more than
gnome3.

Is it possible to install/use unity on gentoo?

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 ??

[Allan Gottlieb]

On Thu, May 26 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Thank you.  Some forum posts suggest that upgrading to gnome3 from
 gnome2 is difficult.  Did you

 1.  Upgrade from 2.32.1
 2.  Unmerge 2.32.1 then merge 3
 3.  Do a fresh install of gentoo w/o gnome and then install gnome3
 4.  Do something else

 All of the above? :D

 I keyworded and unmasked the necessary packages to make
 =gnome-base/gnome-3.0.0 emergable; then I upgraded like usual. There
 were some problems, but usually solvable by emerge -C the offending
 package (and older version, generally). I removed (after backup)
 ~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2* ~/.metacity ~/.nautilus and ~/.evolution (I
 *think* this was not really necessary, by I wanted to see a pristine
 GNOME 3). At the end, I emerge --depclean, and then after a couple of
 emerge -uDNvp world everything went to normal. I haven't had  any
 problem since then.

 Oh, at some point I emerge @preserved-rebuild and then again emerge
 --depclean.

 It took a couple of days of try/error, and be warned that you should
 do this fom a VT, not from X (unless you do it under twm or something
 like that).

Sounds like I should do it on my spare laptop first.
thanks again.
allan