Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-14 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 14 Oct, Denis wrote:
.
 proprietary software I am currently running.  I would much rather
 upgrade Mathematica, but that is not an option for me at this time.
 Thankfully, I was able to remove X and reinstall it based on the
 previous versions of the libraries  I don't yet know whether this
 resolved my Mathematica issue - I will test tomorrow.  But I will
 investigate the install script for Mathematica and see what it does.

Ask the vendor of Mathematica for support. If they're not willing/able
to help you, consider switching to Maple. It runs just fine on a 
bleeding edge Gentoo system.

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-13 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
I've been having some issues myself (mythtv manages to mess up my screen 
royally, I need to switch to a text virtual console and back to X to 
make the screen legible after viewing a TV-recording in myth). I just 
noticed that the version of the headers for xcb do not match the version 
on libxcb itself. Could this be the cause of my (and Daves) problems? I 
have libxcb 1.4, but headers version 1.5, no 1.4 available for the 
headers. (running a new sync of my portage tree now, just in case I've 
missed something)

Viz:

1:medisin ~ # eix xcb
[I] x11-libs/libxcb
Available versions:  1.0 1.1 ~1.1.90.1 1.4-r1 {debug doc selinux}
Installed versions:  1.4-r1(22:28:37 10/11/09)(-debug -doc -selinux)
Homepage:http://xcb.freedesktop.org/
Description: X C-language Bindings library

[I] x11-libs/xcb-util
Available versions:  0.3.3 ~0.3.4 ~0.3.5 0.3.6 {debug test}
Installed versions:  0.3.6(18:11:17 10/08/09)(-debug -test)
Homepage:http://xcb.freedesktop.org/
Description: X C-language Bindings sample implementations

* x11-misc/xcb
Available versions:  2.4 {motif}
Homepage:http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/xcb.html
Description: Marc Lehmann's improved X Cut Buffers

[I] x11-proto/xcb-proto
Available versions:  1.0 1.1 ~1.2 1.5
Installed versions:  1.5(05:16:09 10/06/09)
Homepage:http://xcb.freedesktop.org/
Description: X C-language Bindings protocol headers

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how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
I cleared everything X related from my box, and it is still alive and well :-)

Now, as I was explaining in my previous thread, I would like to
re-install X and all related apps, but forcing the older libxcb
version.  After I upgraded to libxcb 1.4 a few days ago, my X was
unstable and kept crashing while scrolling in Mathematica, so I wanted
to clear everything X out, start from scratch, and revert to my
original X configuration.

Here is the new problem.

In my package.mask, I specify:

=x11-libs/libxcb-1.4
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6
=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4

My USE is now:  alsa ao bash-completion bzip2 cdda cddb cdparanoia
cdr cpudetection ieee1394 lame ldap libwww
   mad mmx mmxext mp3 openal oss ppds rtc smp
spell sse sse2 tta usb wavpack winbind xml -dri -isdnlog -pppd

So, I put in the X USE flag and attempt

emerge -NDavu xorg-x11

and get

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =x11-libs/libxcb-1.2 have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
 - x11-libs/libxcb-1.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)

(dependency required by x11-libs/libX11-1.2.2 [ebuild])
(dependency required by x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 [ebuild])
(dependency required by x11-libs/libXv-1.0.4 [ebuild])
(dependency required by x11-base/xorg-x11-7.2 [ebuild])
(dependency required by xorg-x11 [argument])

What gives?  Am I doing something stupid (well, aside from trying to
downgrade...), or is there a way for me to fix this by some keywording
trickery or something to that effect?  Help, please :-)



Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
Sorry, I don't tinker around with gentoo much, mostly just user :-)

I got around this block so far:  also masked =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5,
=x11-libs/libX11-1.2, in addition to libxcb 1.4.  Reading ebuilds
really helps!  ha.



Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
 I got around this block so far:  also masked =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5,
=x11-libs/libX11-1.2, in addition to libxcb 1.4.

Now I run into a bit of a problem:

libX11-1.1.5 fails when compiled :-(

I attached a build.log for this package...  Can anyone tell me if this
is fixable?  Maybe some other package needs to be downgraded?

The only reason why I am using 1.1.5 version is because libX11-1.2.*
requires libxcb-1.2 and greater and I only have 1.1.90 as the highest
before 1.4 (can I tweak the ebuild for libX11-1.2 and put xcb 1.1.90
instead of 1.2 limitation?)...

I would try libX11-1.1.4, but xorg-server-1.5.3 requires 1.1.5 and
above...  maybe I could tweak this ebuild to accept 1.1.4 and see if
that compiles?

Any constructive thoughts appreciated!  :-)



Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-13 Thread Michael Higgins
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:36:18 -0400
Denis denis@gmail.com wrote:

 Of course, I forget to attach the file to embarrass myself to the
 end...  Great.  :-P

Oh, it's not over yet!

 
 Here it is!

make[1]: *** [ks_tables.h] Error 136

  Any constructive thoughts appreciated!  :-)

Heh. Let me google that *exact error string* for you, by way of
illustration...

OK, so someone using Gentoo sez:

Ultimately, you need to check the version of xproto that you have
installed. By masking 7.0.15 and re-emerging 7.0.14, I was able to
resume the emerge without any remaining libX11 errors.

From: http://blog.olebox.com/tag/linux/

Cheers (and good luck),

-- Michael Higgins



Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-13 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Tue, 10/13, Denis wrote: ===
 Any constructive thoughts appreciated!  :-)

===

It sounds to me like you are worming your way into a deeper hole. 

Just FYI, I went through the libxcb upgrade procedure, am running the
libxcb 1.4 and latest X server, etc. and everything is working just
fine. On three different machines. 

The close-source binaries like Mathematica are usually the problem.
They almost always lag behind the current open-source offering and only
support older, stable versions of libraries. So if you really want to
run that I would recommend that you stick with stable arch and
re-compile and/or re-install your base system. You have /home on a
separate partition, right? 

Another possibility is that these packages usually ship with a set of
libraries that the pre-load using a launcher shell script. Does it
install any copies of system libraries?

An alternative, albeit a heavyweight one, is to look at Mathematica's
supported OS/distro list and run a virtual machine with one of those in
it. You can use gentoo as your host OS.  



-- Keith Dart

-- 
-- 
Keith Dart
ke...@dartworks.biz
===



Re: how to force libxcb version below 1.4 when re-installing X (was: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?)

2009-10-13 Thread Denis
Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote:
 Heh. Let me google that *exact error string* for you, by way of
 illustration...

Thanks, Michael - I generally turn to google first.  It's been a tough
day, and I appreciate you pointing this out to me.
I ran into another snag, this time with x11-libs/libXext-1.0.4 - it
would not compile with x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.5.  But downgrading to
x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.4 fixed that!  When I saw that one fail, I
thought to myself this is gonna be a long night...  ha.  But
happily, everything compiled in the end, and xorg-x11 is now
installed.  I will see the state of things tomorrow when I get into
the office.


Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote:
 The close-source binaries like Mathematica are usually the problem.
 They almost always lag behind the current open-source offering and only
 support older, stable versions of libraries. So if you really want to
 run that I would recommend that you stick with stable arch and
 re-compile and/or re-install your base system. You have /home on a
 separate partition, right?

Keith - thanks for the thoughts.  As I reiterated before, I am not
arguing that Mathematica isn't the source of the problem.  Other than
Mathematica crashing X, I had no other problems with X since the
upgrade to libxcb-1.4 and xorg-server-1.6.  So my action to downgrade
and revert to the previous configuration shouldn't be taken to mean
that the upgrade was crappy - it just doesn't seem to agree with the
proprietary software I am currently running.  I would much rather
upgrade Mathematica, but that is not an option for me at this time.
Thankfully, I was able to remove X and reinstall it based on the
previous versions of the libraries  I don't yet know whether this
resolved my Mathematica issue - I will test tomorrow.  But I will
investigate the install script for Mathematica and see what it does.

Denis



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Denis wrote:
 He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get
 the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all
 the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate
 

 I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a
 little backed up.  I am OK with that.

 But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable -
 this is what I need for my work.  Before I upgraded to xorg-1.6 and
 libxcb-1.4, this *never* happened, not once, *in several years*, under
 extensive use, and I have been using the same Mathematica version all
 this time, 5.2.  So if downgrading X and libxcb is what I have to do
 to restore reliable operation of my machine with Mathematica, then
 this is what I am doing next.

 Let me ask this next:  is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible?


   

I have downgraded xorg-server before and it is not to bad.  Just mask
the current version and do a emerge -uvDNa world.  You may have to mask
a couple more packages but the error will tell you which ones they are. 
I was able to just mask the one tho. 

If you are using hal, you may have to reemerge the mouse and keyboard
drivers.  I find them using this:  equery list xf86-input  That should
list the drivers that need to be reemerged.  I have three.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote:
 nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can
cause
 a lot
 of problems.
 
 Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have
 the same issue.
 
 I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it.  If I drag a scrollbar
 down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed
 response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in
 Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X.
 
 Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6...  I
 was very happy with 1.5 and before.  Sigh.  May this be a library
 issue?  Gtk?  I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall,
 while using acroread, but acroread did not crash...

Acroread has always been particularly unstable. I know nothing about the
Linux version of Mathematica.

You can always try revdep-rebuild.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:36:24 Jesús Guerrero wrote:
 On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote:
  nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can
 
 cause
 
  a lot
  of problems.
 
  Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have
  the same issue.
 
  I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it.  If I drag a scrollbar
  down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed
  response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in
  Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X.
 
  Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6...  I
  was very happy with 1.5 and before.  Sigh.  May this be a library
  issue?  Gtk?  I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall,
  while using acroread, but acroread did not crash...
 
 Acroread has always been particularly unstable. I know nothing about the
 Linux version of Mathematica.
 
 You can always try revdep-rebuild.

He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get 
the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all 
the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate
 

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-11 Thread Denis
 He may also want to ask the question Do I *really* need acroread? and get
 the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all
 the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate

I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a
little backed up.  I am OK with that.

But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable -
this is what I need for my work.  Before I upgraded to xorg-1.6 and
libxcb-1.4, this *never* happened, not once, *in several years*, under
extensive use, and I have been using the same Mathematica version all
this time, 5.2.  So if downgrading X and libxcb is what I have to do
to restore reliable operation of my machine with Mathematica, then
this is what I am doing next.

Let me ask this next:  is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible?



[gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Denis
I am running the xorg-server-1.6, to which I just upgraded, and kernel
 2.6.27-gentoo-r8, and I am having an issue with the server crashing
whenever I try to drag the scroll bar within Mathematica - which never
happened to me before with previous xorg-servers, and I use
Mathematica extensively.  So I just wanted to ask some questions to
see if any of the warnings and errors I am seeing in the log may
actually cause X to be unstable...

1.  In the log (see below), Xorg shows an error trying to load dri...
Since I have nvidia and glx and don't have dri, I don't have the dri
drivers, so how can I stop Xorg from trying to load dri/dri2?

2.  I get a warning:

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:: nVidia Corporation G72
[GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x9100/16777216,
0x8000/268435456, 0x9000/16777216
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel

Will this make X unstable in any way?

3.  Are the freetype and type1 modules now incorporated into X or phased out?


Here is my xorg.conf:
=
Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/freefonts/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/intlfonts/  
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/terminus/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/unifont/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/AFM/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/BDF/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/Type1/


EndSection

Section Module
Load  record
Load  extmod
Load  dbe
Load  glx
#Load  type1
#Load  freetype
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Sony
ModelNameG520
DisplaySize  405 305
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  nvidia
VendorName  nVidia Corporation
BoardName   GeForce 7300 LE
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
Option UseEdidDpi FALSE
#   Option DPI 100 x 100
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes 1600x1200
EndSubSection
EndSection


And here is the Xorg.0.log file:

X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 i686
Current Operating System: Linux langevin 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP
PREEMPT Sat Feb 28 18:50:18 EST 2009 i686
Build Date: 08 October 2009  11:20:23AM

Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Oct  9 10:33:25 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout X.org Configured
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Card0
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(==) Not automatically adding devices
(==) Not automatically enabling devices
(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/,
/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/,
/usr/share/fonts/dejavu/,
/usr/share/fonts/freefonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/intlfonts/,
/usr/share/fonts/terminus/,
  

Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote:
 I am running the xorg-server-1.6, to which I just upgraded, and kernel
  2.6.27-gentoo-r8, and I am having an issue with the server crashing
 whenever I try to drag the scroll bar within Mathematica - which never
 happened to me before with previous xorg-servers, and I use
 Mathematica extensively.  So I just wanted to ask some questions to
 see if any of the warnings and errors I am seeing in the log may
 actually cause X to be unstable...
 
 1.  In the log (see below), Xorg shows an error trying to load dri...
 Since I have nvidia and glx and don't have dri, I don't have the dri
 drivers, so how can I stop Xorg from trying to load dri/dri2?
 
 2.  I get a warning:
 
 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:: nVidia Corporation G72
 [GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x9100/16777216,
 0x8000/268435456, 0x9000/16777216
 (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
 (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
 
 Will this make X unstable in any way?

no. That messages have no influence at all.

 
 3.  Are the freetype and type1 modules now incorporated into X or phased
  out?
 


 
 Here is my xorg.conf:

now let us remove all the stuff you don't need.

 =
 Section ServerLayout
   Identifier X.org Configured
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection
 
 Section Files

 EndSection
 
 Section Module
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
 EndSection
 
 Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  mouse
   Option  Protocol auto
   Option  Device /dev/input/mice
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection
 
 Section Monitor
   Identifier   Monitor0
   VendorName   Sony
   ModelNameG520
 EndSection
 
 Section Device
   Identifier  Card0
   Driver  nvidia
   VendorName  nVidia Corporation
   BoardName   GeForce 7300 LE
   BusID   PCI:1:0:0
   Option UseEdidDpi FALSE
why?

 # Option DPI 100 x 100
 EndSection
 
 Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth 24
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   Modes 1600x1200
   EndSubSection
 EndSection
 
 
 And here is the Xorg.0.log file:
 
 X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
 Release Date: 2009-8-25
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 i686
 Current Operating System: Linux langevin 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP
 PREEMPT Sat Feb 28 18:50:18 EST 2009 i686
 Build Date: 08 October 2009  11:20:23AM
 
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Oct  9 10:33:25 2009
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 (==) ServerLayout X.org Configured
 (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
 (**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
 (**) |   |--Device Card0
 (**) |--Input Device Mouse0
 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
 (==) Not automatically adding devices
 (==) Not automatically enabling devices
 (**) FontPath set to:
   /usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled,
   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
   /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/,
   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,
   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,
   /usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/,
   /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/,
   /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/,
   /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/,
   /usr/share/fonts/freefonts/,
   /usr/share/fonts/intlfonts/,
   /usr/share/fonts/terminus/,
   /usr/share/fonts/unifont/,
   /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/AFM/,
   /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/BDF/,
   /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/Type1/,
   /usr/share/fonts/misc/,
   /usr/share/fonts/TTF/,
   /usr/share/fonts/OTF,
   /usr/share/fonts/Type1/,
   /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/,
   /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
 (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
 (II) Loader magic: 0x1ea0
 (II) Module ABI versions:
   X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
   X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
   X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
   X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
 (II) Loader running on linux
 (++) using VT number 9
 
 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:: nVidia Corporation G72
 [GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x9100/16777216,
 0x8000/268435456, 0x9000/16777216
 (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file 

Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Denis
 Section Device
       Identifier  Card0
       Driver      nvidia
       VendorName  nVidia Corporation
       BoardName   GeForce 7300 LE
       BusID       PCI:1:0:0
       Option UseEdidDpi FALSE
 why? =

 #     Option DPI 100 x 100
 EndSection

Sorry  - what was that why? referring to?  I think I put those
options in when I was working on anti-aliasing the fonts to make them
look smooth.  That still works.



 1.6.3.901
 is - lets just say you should either use 1.6.3 or 1.6.4
 and what about your driver version?
 and why 2.6.27? that kernel is acient!



Well, I used 1.6.3.901-r2 because that's what the portage pulled in
when I did emerge -NDavu world.  Portage tree seems to have options to
use 1.6.4, but it was not pulled in by emerge, so maybe it is masked
or keyworded?

The kernel...  Well, I am guilty of not keeping up on kernel updates
because restarting the machine for each upgrade isn't always an option
with my work.  Do you think this version of the kernel may contribute
to X instability?



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote:
  Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  nvidia
VendorName  nVidia Corporation
BoardName   GeForce 7300 LE
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
Option UseEdidDpi FALSE
 
  why? =
 
  # Option DPI 100 x 100
  EndSection
 
 Sorry  - what was that why? referring to?  I think I put those
 options in when I was working on anti-aliasing the fonts to make them
 look smooth.  That still works.
 
  1.6.3.901
  is - lets just say you should either use 1.6.3 or 1.6.4
  and what about your driver version?
  and why 2.6.27? that kernel is acient!
 
 Well, I used 1.6.3.901-r2 because that's what the portage pulled in
 when I did emerge -NDavu world.  Portage tree seems to have options to
 use 1.6.4, but it was not pulled in by emerge, so maybe it is masked
 or keyworded?
 
 The kernel...  Well, I am guilty of not keeping up on kernel updates
 because restarting the machine for each upgrade isn't always an option
 with my work.  Do you think this version of the kernel may contribute
 to X instability?
 

i am saying that you should try the latest kernel with the latest driver for 
your card



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Denis
I see.

Well, I am running nvidia-drivers-180.60, and versions 185 and 190 are
masked by ~x86.  Same for the xorg-server-1.6.4.  So the only thing I
could do really is to update the kernel...

But xorg-server-1.5 was perfectly stable for me, so I don't see how
kernel upgrade would be helpful here, given that nvidia-drivers aren't
in the kernel.



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote:
 I see.
 
 Well, I am running nvidia-drivers-180.60, and versions 185 and 190 are
 masked by ~x86.  Same for the xorg-server-1.6.4.  So the only thing I
 could do really is to update the kernel...
 
 But xorg-server-1.5 was perfectly stable for me, so I don't see how
 kernel upgrade would be helpful here, given that nvidia-drivers aren't
 in the kernel.
 

nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot 
of problems.



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Denis
 nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot
 of problems.

Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have
the same issue.

I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it.  If I drag a scrollbar
down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed
response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in
Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X.

Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6...  I
was very happy with 1.5 and before.  Sigh.  May this be a library
issue?  Gtk?  I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall,
while using acroread, but acroread did not crash...



Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?

2009-10-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote:
  nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause
  a lot of problems.
 
 Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have
 the same issue.
 
 I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it.  If I drag a scrollbar
 down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed
 response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in
 Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X.
 
 Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6...  I
 was very happy with 1.5 and before.  Sigh.  May this be a library
 issue?  Gtk?  I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall,
 while using acroread, but acroread did not crash...
 

you could rebuilt gtk, I never had crashes or problems with acrobat and I 
don't have mathematica :)