Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 23.07.2012 20:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: journald is an interesting idea. It allows you (among other things) to see the messages from a service (and only from that service) in the status command of systemctl: As far as I know, there is nothing remotely similar in either Upstart nor SysV init. Yes, there might be *some* advantages to expect ;-) In my laptop and desktop, I could only use journald, but since systemd can be used along with rsyslog/syslog-ng, I still run rsyslog: # systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:39:04 -0500; 1 weeks and 3 days ago Main PID: 388 (rsyslogd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/rsyslog.service └ 388 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n -c5 The reason is only that I actually like to keep my logs, even if for a laptop/desktop is most of the times not necessary. Keeping journald-logs just needs mkdir -p /var/log/journal (and in case defining the size limit in the configfile). I think the only thing I did to set rsyslog as my logger service was to link the syslog.service file to it: # ll /etc/systemd/system/syslog.service lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Jan 18 2012 /etc/systemd/system/syslog.service - /usr/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service For my servers journald is cute, but I would never think about removing a real logger. For my servers I don't think about removing a real init-system ;-) No joke: in production environments I don't think of using systemd yet. Just playing around here and learning things. I would consider using it if it were officially supported by gentoo in terms of you get a set of fully tested unit-files etc ... but right now it always feels like ah, there might be another howto ... maybe I lack some really important service ... at least this is my feeling right now. learning. So, in short: for servers install a real logger (I recommend rsyslog, although syslog-ng should also work), never tried rsyslog, could have a look, yes. and for laptop/desktop you *could* do just with journald, but if it makes you feel better (as it does in my case) you can also install a real logger. Now that I think about it, I haven't really looked at my logs neither in my laptop nor desktop in months. I think I could easily remove rsyslog and just have journald; but rsyslog is light enough, and having the logs there gives me a little peace of mind. I also don't expect much difference in performance. There isn't that much to log on a desktop, and the load isn't that high most of the time. Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
(replying to list as I assume this could interest and/or help other users as well) Peter, Canek, how did you approach syslogs? systemd brings its own journal (readable via systemd-journalctl, learned right now) and so it possible to run the box without syslog-ng or similar. archlinux-wiki tells me how to combine things: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Systemd_Journal but I wonder what your solutions/opinions are so far ... Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: (replying to list as I assume this could interest and/or help other users as well) Peter, Canek, how did you approach syslogs? systemd brings its own journal (readable via systemd-journalctl, learned right now) and so it possible to run the box without syslog-ng or similar. archlinux-wiki tells me how to combine things: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Systemd_Journal but I wonder what your solutions/opinions are so far ... journald is an interesting idea. It allows you (among other things) to see the messages from a service (and only from that service) in the status command of systemctl: # systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service - SSH Secure Shell Service Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/sshd.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:39:03 -0500; 1 weeks and 3 days ago Main PID: 371 (sshd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/sshd.service └ 371 /usr/sbin/sshd -D Jul 22 18:12:18 negra sshd[11272]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Version;Remote: 192.168.0.100-60763;Protocol: 2.0;Client: OpenSSH_5.9p1-hpn13v11lpk Jul 22 18:12:18 negra sshd[11272]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Kex;Remote: 192.168.0.100-60763;Enc: aes128-ctr;MAC: hmac-md5;Comp: none [preauth] Jul 22 18:12:19 negra sshd[11272]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote: 192.168.0.100-60763;Name: canek [preauth] Jul 22 18:12:22 negra sshd[11272]: Accepted publickey for canek from 192.168.0.100 port 60763 ssh2 Jul 22 18:12:22 negra sshd[11272]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user canek by (uid=0) Jul 22 21:06:54 negra sshd[11893]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Version;Remote: 192.168.0.100-35208;Protocol: 2.0;Client: OpenSSH_5.9p1-hpn13v11lpk Jul 22 21:06:54 negra sshd[11893]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Kex;Remote: 192.168.0.100-35208;Enc: aes128-ctr;MAC: hmac-md5;Comp: none [preauth] Jul 22 21:06:54 negra sshd[11893]: SSH: Server;Ltype: Authname;Remote: 192.168.0.100-35208;Name: canek [preauth] Jul 22 21:06:55 negra sshd[11893]: Accepted publickey for canek from 192.168.0.100 port 35208 ssh2 As far as I know, there is nothing remotely similar in either Upstart nor SysV init. In my laptop and desktop, I could only use journald, but since systemd can be used along with rsyslog/syslog-ng, I still run rsyslog: # systemctl status rsyslog.service rsyslog.service - System Logging Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service; enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:39:04 -0500; 1 weeks and 3 days ago Main PID: 388 (rsyslogd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/rsyslog.service └ 388 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n -c5 The reason is only that I actually like to keep my logs, even if for a laptop/desktop is most of the times not necessary. I think the only thing I did to set rsyslog as my logger service was to link the syslog.service file to it: # ll /etc/systemd/system/syslog.service lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Jan 18 2012 /etc/systemd/system/syslog.service - /usr/lib/systemd/system/rsyslog.service For my servers journald is cute, but I would never think about removing a real logger. So, in short: for servers install a real logger (I recommend rsyslog, although syslog-ng should also work), and for laptop/desktop you *could* do just with journald, but if it makes you feel better (as it does in my case) you can also install a real logger. Now that I think about it, I haven't really looked at my logs neither in my laptop nor desktop in months. I think I could easily remove rsyslog and just have journald; but rsyslog is light enough, and having the logs there gives me a little peace of mind. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would someone share a tarball of /etc/systemd/system with me (off-list) so I could figure out what services and stuff are needed? Tried to follow the wiki-pages, but somehow after logging into gdm the session hangs ... Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Hi, I would be also interested in such configuration preview. S On 2012-07-20 11:56, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would someone share a tarball of /etc/systemd/system with me (off-list) so I could figure out what services and stuff are needed? Tried to follow the wiki-pages, but somehow after logging into gdm the session hangs ... Thanks, Stefan -- Samuraiii e-mail: samurai.no.d...@gmail.com mailto:samurai.no.d...@gmail.com GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x80C752EAop=vindexfingerprint=onexact=on (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block http://publictimestamp.org signatures id- (from ) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
(I am assuming that you are using systemd-186 -- all earlier releases I checked have bugs I ran into) If it's right after logging in, then I would suspect some PAM deficiency. I wrote a bit about this on G+ yesterday: For anyone battling the trifecta of PAM, systemd and gnome on Gentoo, take note that once you've gotten rid of consolekit, you need to add the line: -sessionoptionalpam_systemd.so to system-auth, system-login and system-services in /etc/pam.d The first two are documented elsewhere but the last one ensures that gdm-welcome registers with systemd-logind, which fixed reboot from gdm and gnome not working for me. And, you need to get USE=-consolekit and mask consolekit, and you need to get pulseaudio rebuilt after installing systemd and you need to get =polkit-0.107 working. That last bit was a bit hairy for those who lived through it, but now I think it should do to: chown -R polkitd:polkitd /var/lib/polkit-1 Generally, as long as you start services the right way: systemctl start gdm.service (for example) and they start without error, the dependency checking should get all the dependencies started also. FWIW, here's the output of find /etc/systemd/system, but those are all symlinks to /usr/lib/systemd/system /etc/systemd/system/ /etc/systemd/system/bluetooth.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/bluetooth.target.wants/bluetooth.service /etc/systemd/system/default.target /etc/systemd/system/graphical.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/graphical.target.wants/rtkit-daemon.service /etc/systemd/system/graphical.target.wants/gdm.service /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/remote-fs.target /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ntpd.service /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/NetworkManager.service /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service /etc/systemd/system/dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service /etc/systemd/system/local-fs.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/network.target.wants /etc/systemd/system/network.target.wants/NetworkManager-wait-online.service /Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 2012-07-20 14:43, schrieb Peter Alfredsen: (I am assuming that you are using systemd-186 -- all earlier releases I checked have bugs I ran into) thanks for all the information ... added those pam.d-lines, no success Unmasking systemd-186 brought up dependencies like udev .. I hesitate to go bleeding edge there as well. So maybe I just cancel this for now. Thanks, anyway, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2012-07-20 14:43, schrieb Peter Alfredsen: (I am assuming that you are using systemd-186 -- all earlier releases I checked have bugs I ran into) thanks for all the information ... added those pam.d-lines, no success Unmasking systemd-186 brought up dependencies like udev .. I hesitate to go bleeding edge there as well. So maybe I just cancel this for now. Yeah udev is incorporated into later versions of systemd on gentoo and the reason it is masked is because you have to do some package.provided magic to get it all to work. /Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 2012-07-20 15:54, schrieb Peter Alfredsen: Yeah udev is incorporated into later versions of systemd on gentoo and the reason it is masked is because you have to do some package.provided magic to get it all to work. sounds as if all this is still to much beta for me to make it worth the effort. Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2012-07-20 15:54, schrieb Peter Alfredsen: Yeah udev is incorporated into later versions of systemd on gentoo and the reason it is masked is because you have to do some package.provided magic to get it all to work. sounds as if all this is still to much beta for me to make it worth the effort. Nah, it's perfectly stable once you get over the first hurdles. It's just not integrated into Gentoo at the moment. /Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would someone share a tarball of /etc/systemd/system with me (off-list) so I could figure out what services and stuff are needed? Tried to follow the wiki-pages, but somehow after logging into gdm the session hangs ... I'm running GNOME 3 with, systemd 44 and udev 186, the first from my overlay: https://github.com/canek-pelaez/gentoo-systemd-only/ However, the ebuilds in my overlay just change some dependencies so I don't need to install OpenRC. Otherwise, they are identical to the ones in the official tree. As Peter, I have the line -sessionoptionalpam_systemd.so in /etc/pam.d/system-auth. However, I still have consolekit started (no problems whatsoever). All in all, I run systemd+GNOME3 very close to the official tree, as I said. I have been doing it since last year; usually I don't have any problem. A little more info would help; what does $HOME/.xsession-errors says? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would someone share a tarball of /etc/systemd/system with me (off-list) so I could figure out what services and stuff are needed? Tried to follow the wiki-pages, but somehow after logging into gdm the session hangs ... I'm running GNOME 3 with, systemd 44 and udev 186, the first from my overlay: https://github.com/canek-pelaez/gentoo-systemd-only/ However, the ebuilds in my overlay just change some dependencies so I don't need to install OpenRC. Otherwise, they are identical to the ones in the official tree. As Peter, I have the line -sessionoptionalpam_systemd.so in /etc/pam.d/system-auth. However, I still have consolekit started (no problems whatsoever). There were some integration issues in upstream Gnome where most distros changed abruptly from using consolekit to systemd-logind which affected me when I went from systemd-44 to -185 because I ran into some race condition with -44. I imagine using consolekit will probably work in ~arch with no unmasks if you don't run into those race conditions on -44. But you gotta admit, it will probably be easier to follow the way Redhat is doing it than starting mixing and matching, because you will know that at least your combination works somewhere. /Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Peter Alfredsen peter.alfred...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Does anyone use systemd on gentoo, with gnome3? Would someone share a tarball of /etc/systemd/system with me (off-list) so I could figure out what services and stuff are needed? Tried to follow the wiki-pages, but somehow after logging into gdm the session hangs ... I'm running GNOME 3 with, systemd 44 and udev 186, the first from my overlay: https://github.com/canek-pelaez/gentoo-systemd-only/ However, the ebuilds in my overlay just change some dependencies so I don't need to install OpenRC. Otherwise, they are identical to the ones in the official tree. As Peter, I have the line -sessionoptionalpam_systemd.so in /etc/pam.d/system-auth. However, I still have consolekit started (no problems whatsoever). There were some integration issues in upstream Gnome where most distros changed abruptly from using consolekit to systemd-logind which affected me when I went from systemd-44 to -185 because I ran into some race condition with -44. I imagine using consolekit will probably work in ~arch with no unmasks if you don't run into those race conditions on -44. But you gotta admit, it will probably be easier to follow the way Redhat is doing it than starting mixing and matching, because you will know that at least your combination works somewhere. Not really mix and match. I run systemd/udev/GNOME3 in ~amd64, that's all, and I don't unmask any hard masked package. It's been working fine like that since, oh I don't know, when they removed the mask on GNOME 3? Again, Stefan has probably a valid problem, and we need more info to nail it down (hence the petition for $HOME/.xsession-errors). Just unmasking everything and hoping that will solve the issues is usually not the best practice; specially since the Gentoo developers haven't decided how to handle the merge of udev/systemd. Some want to provide a virtual/udev that systemd satisfy, and others want to keep things as they were before the merge, with the udev ebuild simply not installing the systemd parts. Given that they haven't reached an agreement, I would *highly* recommend not trying yet systemd/udev = 186. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 20.07.2012 18:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Not really mix and match. I run systemd/udev/GNOME3 in ~amd64, that's all, and I don't unmask any hard masked package. It's been working fine like that since, oh I don't know, when they removed the mask on GNOME 3? Thanks for motivating me! I will try to use your overlay ... Again, Stefan has probably a valid problem, and we need more info to nail it down (hence the petition for $HOME/.xsession-errors). See attachment. Do I need rtkit or not? I also had added the USE-flag systemd and re-built every package having that useflag. Just unmasking everything and hoping that will solve the issues is usually not the best practice; specially since the Gentoo developers haven't decided how to handle the merge of udev/systemd. Some want to provide a virtual/udev that systemd satisfy, and others want to keep things as they were before the merge, with the udev ebuild simply not installing the systemd parts. Given that they haven't reached an agreement, I would *highly* recommend not trying yet systemd/udev = 186. OK, fine, thanks so far. S /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... localuser:sgw being added to access control list /etc/gdm/Xsession: Setup done, will execute: /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/ssh-agent -- gnome-session GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ/ssh GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ/gpg:0:1 GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-uskBGJ/ssh (gnome-settings-daemon:5621): common-plugin-WARNING **: Key 0x0 (keycodes: 130) with state 0x0 (resolved to 0x0) has no usable modifiers (usable modifiers are 0x14ed) (gnome-settings-daemon:5621): common-plugin-WARNING **: Key 0x0 (keycodes: 236) with state 0x0 (resolved to 0x0) has no usable modifiers (usable modifiers are 0x14ed) Initializing tracker-store... Initializing tracker-miner-fs... Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config file:'/home/sgw/.config/tracker/tracker-store.cfg' Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config file:'/home/sgw/.config/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.cfg' Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config file:'/home/sgw/.config/tracker/tracker-store.cfg' Starting log: File:'/home/sgw/.local/share/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.log' Starting log: File:'/home/sgw/.local/share/tracker/tracker-store.log' Failed to play sound: File or data not found ** (gnome-screensaver:5656): WARNING **: Config key not handled: disable-application-handlers ** (gnome-screensaver:5656): WARNING **: Config key not handled: disable-command-line ** (gnome-screensaver:5656): WARNING **: Config key not handled: disable-log-out ** (gnome-screensaver:5656): WARNING **: Config key not handled: disable-print-setup ** (gnome-screensaver:5656): WARNING **: Config key not handled: disable-printing ** (gnome-screensaver:5656): WARNING **: Config key not handled: disable-save-to-disk Initializing nautilus-dropbox 1.4.0 Starting Dropbox... [01mHP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.6)[0m [01mSystem Tray Status Service ver. 2.0[0m Copyright (c) 2001-14 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area [35;01mwarning: No hp: or hpfax: devices found in any installed CUPS queue. Exiting.[0m Done! (nautilus:5655): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.14:/org/freedesktop/Notifications: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. (gnome-settings-daemon:5621): color-plugin-WARNING **: Done switch to new account, reload devices (gnome-settings-daemon:5621): color-plugin-WARNING **: Done switch to new account, reload devices
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 18:08, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Not really mix and match. I run systemd/udev/GNOME3 in ~amd64, that's all, and I don't unmask any hard masked package. It's been working fine like that since, oh I don't know, when they removed the mask on GNOME 3? Thanks for motivating me! I will try to use your overlay ... First get GNOME 3 + systemd to work; my overlay is experimental. Again, Stefan has probably a valid problem, and we need more info to nail it down (hence the petition for $HOME/.xsession-errors). See attachment. The only possible problem I see is (nautilus:5655): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.14:/org/freedesktop/Notifications: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: What version of libnotify are you using? I have 0.7.5 installed. Do I need rtkit or not? I don't have it installed; never had. I also had added the USE-flag systemd and re-built every package having that useflag. Could you please attach the output of: systemctl --all --full --no-pager Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: First get GNOME 3 + systemd to work; my overlay is experimental. ok, rolling back then ... The only possible problem I see is (nautilus:5655): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.14:/org/freedesktop/Notifications: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: What version of libnotify are you using? I have 0.7.5 installed. Same here. Do I need rtkit or not? I don't have it installed; never had. ... removed it as well. Could you please attach the output of: systemctl --all --full --no-pager Will do asap, have to reboot into systemd again. I *assume* it has to do with LVM: the dropbox-data of my user is stored in an LV ... and the VG/LV is not correctly available when I boot with systemd. Didn't find any lvm.service in the installed files, gotta build one myself, I assume. This might make the session wait for that directory becoming available. I could check with a fresh user without a dropbox. S
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: First get GNOME 3 + systemd to work; my overlay is experimental. ok, rolling back then ... The only possible problem I see is (nautilus:5655): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.14:/org/freedesktop/Notifications: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: What version of libnotify are you using? I have 0.7.5 installed. Same here. Do I need rtkit or not? I don't have it installed; never had. ... removed it as well. Could you please attach the output of: systemctl --all --full --no-pager Will do asap, have to reboot into systemd again. I *assume* it has to do with LVM: Whoa. What partition you do have on LVM? If it's home, it is available after GMD has showed up? (can you change to a virtual terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F3, for example, and as root see the contents of /home with ls?) LVM is not a damon, one of the reasons why /etc/init.d/lvm is a bad idea. /etc/init.d/lvm sets the devices using LVM; systemd does not need that, it does it by itself using udev (or so I heard, I don't use LVM). Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: systemctl --all --full --no-pager See attachment. That LVM-thing seems to be the solution. Added my lvm.service from back then when I first played with systemd. That file was like the one listed here: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#Services But there is no udev-settle.service anymore. No, it was removed. For testing I simply removed the 2 lines Requires After and started lvm.service manually. This started the LVs correctly now and I am able to log into Gnome now (writing from that very session). So the trick might be to correctly edit this lvm.service file (get the dependencies right). Yeah; put it in /etc/systemd/system; I do that with rc-local.service, for example (since it is not available in gentoo). In general I prefer to have openrc still at hand: Then pleaso do not use my overlay. It's only purpose is to get rid of OpenRC in a Gentoo system. Thanks! Stefan Glad to know it is working. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 20.07.2012 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I *assume* it has to do with LVM: Whoa. What partition you do have on LVM? If it's home, it is available after GMD has showed up? (can you change to a virtual terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F3, for example, and as root see the contents of /home with ls?) LVM is not a damon, one of the reasons why /etc/init.d/lvm is a bad idea. /etc/init.d/lvm sets the devices using LVM; systemd does not need that, it does it by itself using udev (or so I heard, I don't use LVM). see my previous mail (hasn't showed up here yet). It's not /home but the LV with my dropbox-data. Right now I look for the correct dependencies for lvm.service I don't see the ebuild containing the unitfiles in portage anymore .. ?
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 20:05, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I *assume* it has to do with LVM: Whoa. What partition you do have on LVM? If it's home, it is available after GMD has showed up? (can you change to a virtual terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F3, for example, and as root see the contents of /home with ls?) LVM is not a damon, one of the reasons why /etc/init.d/lvm is a bad idea. /etc/init.d/lvm sets the devices using LVM; systemd does not need that, it does it by itself using udev (or so I heard, I don't use LVM). see my previous mail (hasn't showed up here yet). It's not /home but the LV with my dropbox-data. It was slowing down Nautilus. That explains it. Right now I look for the correct dependencies for lvm.service I think you can remove udev-settle and that's it. I don't see the ebuild containing the unitfiles in portage anymore .. ? No, service files belong in their respective packages. I only have a couple of them in /etc/systemd/system. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 20.07.2012 20:20, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: systemctl --all --full --no-pager See attachment. That LVM-thing seems to be the solution. Added my lvm.service from back then when I first played with systemd. That file was like the one listed here: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#Services But there is no udev-settle.service anymore. No, it was removed. So what would Requires and After have to be like then? Without these lines it doesn't work correctly ... just tested. So the trick might be to correctly edit this lvm.service file (get the dependencies right). Yeah; put it in /etc/systemd/system; I do that with rc-local.service, for example (since it is not available in gentoo). I have it there but it isn't correct yet, see above. In general I prefer to have openrc still at hand: Then pleaso do not use my overlay. It's only purpose is to get rid of OpenRC in a Gentoo system. Yep. Thanks! Stefan Glad to know it is working. same here, thanks ;-) S
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 20:20, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.07.2012 19:34, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: systemctl --all --full --no-pager See attachment. That LVM-thing seems to be the solution. Added my lvm.service from back then when I first played with systemd. That file was like the one listed here: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Systemd#Services But there is no udev-settle.service anymore. No, it was removed. So what would Requires and After have to be like then? Without these lines it doesn't work correctly ... just tested. I really don't know, since I don't use LVM. However, After=remount-rootfs.service, and Before=gdm.service sound like good candidates. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3
Am 20.07.2012 20:50, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I really don't know, since I don't use LVM. However, After=remount-rootfs.service, and Before=gdm.service sound like good candidates. I have success with: Requires=systemd-udev-settle.service After=systemd-udev-settle.service That service-file has been renamed from udev-settle.service to systemd-udev-settle.service ... as it seems. Booted and logged in successfully now. Now for the network-config ;-) Stefan
