Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? Actually, I'm not sure. I've always edited nsswitch.conf to get it to do what I want, with good results. I see with strace that when I ping somehost, both nsswitch.conf and host.conf are opened. The man pages don't reveal anything about their relationship, so I guess I'll have to take a look at the glibc sources tonight. As close as I can tell from reading the code (which is to say, I am making an only slightly educated guess), the 'order' keyword in host.conf is pretty much ignored by current glibc versions. Host.conf is only consulted by the libnss_files.so module, and then only for the 'multi' option. The order in nsswitch.conf is authoritative. This seems to be confirmed by a few strace ping attempts with various configurations. Thanks Rich, I also was curious and spent some time googling and reading man pages (without success) but didn't go that far:) Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On 28/11/05, Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. I had a problem of slowness a while ago and it was because my loopback interface was missing. Something to check. Ben -- Ben Edwards - Exeter Bristol, UK, England WARNING:This email contained partisan views - don't ever accuse me of using the veneer of objectivity If you have a problem emailing me use http://www.gurtlush.org.uk/profiles.php?uid=4 (email address this email is sent from may be defunct) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On 11/28/05, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw somewhere in portage a daemon that managesconnection/disconnection from the network.I think it was for laptops. But now I don't know what it is called or where it is in portage.I wonder if it would work? Rob. That would be ifplugd. It listens for a variety of state changes such as insertion of a pcmcia/cardbus/usb NIC or presense/absence of carrier on the ethernet device. When a device becomes available, it runs /etc/init.d/net.device start and when the device goes away/loses carrier, it runs /etc/init.d/net.device stop. That should address the first of Michael's issues. I've not used monodevelop, but as I recall from using VS.Net, it wants to talk to the local webserver. Check what /usr/bin/hostname returns when your connected and when you're offline. Make sure when you go offline it isn't still returning something like foo.cablecompany.net. I have my machine's hostname set in /etc/conf.d/hostname and hostname is in my boot run level. -dcm-
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:27:23 -0500, Devon Miller wrote: I saw somewhere in portage a daemon that manages connection/disconnection from the network. I think it was for laptops. But now I don't know what it is called or where it is in portage. That would be ifplugd. It listens for a variety of state changes such as insertion of a pcmcia/cardbus/usb NIC or presense/absence of carrier on the ethernet device. When a device becomes available, it runs /etc/init.d/net. device start and when the device goes away/loses carrier, it runs /etc/init.d/net.device stop. I don't think ifplugd will help here. it only checks the link beat on the ethernet connection. As long as the computer is connected to the cable modem, it will report the link as up, even if the connection from the modem to the Internet is down. -- Neil Bothwick I doubt therefore I might be. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Michael Sullivan wrote: can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. maybe put some of your local machines into your /etc/hosts file, so it won't attempt to do dns lookups on them. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 13:58 -0500, Billy Holmes wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. maybe put some of your local machines into your /etc/hosts file, so it won't attempt to do dns lookups on them. Every computer in my network is listed in /etc/hosts, and the /etc/hosts file is then copied to every computer in the network. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? Having the exact same copy on each system does not sound correct. There should be a localhost alias in each /etc/hosts and it should point to the IP address of the relevant machine. -- Timur Aydin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 22:07 +0200, Timur Aydin wrote: Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? Having the exact same copy on each system does not sound correct. There should be a localhost alias in each /etc/hosts and it should point to the IP address of the relevant machine. -- Timur Aydin Yeah. Each one has an entry that says 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost and then it has an entry consisting of 192.168.1.? name.espersunited.com name -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Timur Aydin wrote: Having the exact same copy on each system does not sound correct. There should be a localhost alias in each /etc/hosts and it should point to the IP address of the relevant machine. No. Nononono. localhost should always point to 127.0.0.1. -- Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mclure.org ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law, no man may kill a cat. -- H.P. Lovecraft -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Tuesday 29 November 2005 08:17 pm, Michael Sullivan wrote: Yeah. Each one has an entry that says 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost and then it has an entry consisting of 192.168.1.? name.espersunited.com name Looks correct to me. Someone may have already suggested this (if so, sorry), but how about your /etc/nsswitch.conf file? Are you checking the hosts file before you try a dns lookup? Josh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:54:29 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more | frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, | pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to | where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su | - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes | back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down | net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start | giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly | in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just | be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo | that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was | running just fine | - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was | down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Hrm. It's nothing in the base system. I sometimes run my laptop without network, and I don't have issues. Chances are some app you're running is trying to do lots of DNS queries... Does 'top' tell you anything useful? -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (The one that looks before leaping) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies.On 11/28/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even morefrequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.)When it goes out,pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down.It's gotten towhere just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes backon.This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 andthen tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts.Ichecked it and /etc/hosts was correct.Must just be a glitch withmonodevelop.My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet?My network was running just fine- just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down,but everything inside my router should have been fine...-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. HTH, Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:06:44 -0500 Danyelle Gragsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think there are running files that you dont need without a net-device, try to find these processes/services with ps -aux and rc-update -s and stop/kill them greets to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. On 11/28/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 00:21 +0300, Alexander Kirillov wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. HTH, Sasha I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Michael Sullivan wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... I saw somewhere in portage a daemon that manages connection/disconnection from the network. I think it was for laptops. But now I don't know what it is called or where it is in portage. I wonder if it would work? Rob. -- -- Rob Lytle Home Page A Seti search for intelligent life in Central Pa. http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Sullivan wrote: I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? Edit /etc/host.conf - it's well commented. dnsmasq reads and provides dns resolution based on /etc/hosts, too. additionlly, check your /etc/resolv.conf. a nameserver 127.0.0.1 line should be present, if you want to avoid contacting the internet for dns lookups, if so your system configured. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDi3lGAlpOsGhXcE0RAlYoAJ9wn39wS3X93f1mjauNYgSQH6R0VACeJrA3 cUSVn7nMs5xa+Fuodaf/+ek= =ASRh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf Anyway I think it makes sense to go through the chores of setting up local dns server ones to save some time later down the road. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Danyelle Gragsone wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. That's funny. I'm on dial-up and I see no difference at all. I even run ntp which sets my clock and keeps it on track for me and there is no difference when I am connected and when I am not. Yes, I have three network cards installed and running all the time. I do have a local LAN here with three other rigs connected. This is not making sense. If what you guys are saying is correct, people on dial-up can't use Linux. That's not right. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. HTH, Sasha I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server may be of use though I've never tried dnsmasq myself. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Dale wrote: Danyelle Gragsone wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. That's funny. I'm on dial-up and I see no difference at all. I even run ntp which sets my clock and keeps it on track for me and there is no difference when I am connected and when I am not. Yes, I have three network cards installed and running all the time. I do have a local LAN here with three other rigs connected. This is not making sense. If what you guys are saying is correct, people on dial-up can't use Linux. That's not right. Dale :-) I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:40 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Sullivan wrote: I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? Edit /etc/host.conf - it's well commented. dnsmasq reads and provides dns resolution based on /etc/hosts, too. additionlly, check your /etc/resolv.conf. a nameserver 127.0.0.1 line should be present, if you want to avoid contacting the internet for dns lookups, if so your system configured. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. The loopback address wasn't in my /etc/resolv.conf, so I added it and restarted net.eth0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 12:24 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. It's funny that you say that. One of the first things I asked my ISP when I was looking for one, what OS do you use? If they didn't use *nix, I was going to keep looking. It is very rare that I have any trouble either. Another thing I like about mine is the service. When I call them, I get a live human being that answers the phone. They don't have a automated thingy, just people. I have talked to the owner once and have actually had the guys that run the network to call me for help. I am the only one that runs Linux with the logs turned on and it gives them a lot of info if they are having any connection problems. I guess windoze doesn't. They call me and get me to connect and see what happens. If I can't connect, I call them back and read them the log files and the boo boo message. They had the login/password file get borked once. They said it was there but it was messed up. They took the one from their back-ups and up it went. We were surfing again. :) Ever consider switching ISPs or are you stuck with the one you have? I'll switch for DSL but that is about it. Dial-up sucks, 26K is all I get here. Dale :) :) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On 11/28/05, Alexander Kirillov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? Actually, I'm not sure. I've always edited nsswitch.conf to get it to do what I want, with good results. I see with strace that when I ping somehost, both nsswitch.conf and host.conf are opened. The man pages don't reveal anything about their relationship, so I guess I'll have to take a look at the glibc sources tonight. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:11 -0600, Dale wrote: Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. It's funny that you say that. One of the first things I asked my ISP when I was looking for one, what OS do you use? If they didn't use *nix, I was going to keep looking. It is very rare that I have any trouble either. Another thing I like about mine is the service. When I call them, I get a live human being that answers the phone. They don't have a automated thingy, just people. I have talked to the owner once and have actually had the guys that run the network to call me for help. I am the only one that runs Linux with the logs turned on and it gives them a lot of info if they are having any connection problems. I guess windoze doesn't. They call me and get me to connect and see what happens. If I can't connect, I call them back and read them the log files and the boo boo message. They had the login/password file get borked once. They said it was there but it was messed up. They took the one from their back-ups and up it went. We were surfing again. :) Ever consider switching ISPs or are you stuck with the one you have? I'll switch for DSL but that is about it. Dial-up sucks, 26K is all I get here. Dale :) :) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. My wife says that we can try SBC DSL after the new year starts (when we can afford it.) I just hope that I can get everything converted over to PPP -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Monday 28 November 2005 17:58, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 12:24 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. ifplugd works, at least at the ethernet level. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:11 -0600, Dale wrote: My wife says that we can try SBC DSL after the new year starts (when we can afford it.) I just hope that I can get everything converted over to PPP I !think! they use windoze too. Aren't they the same as Bell South? I know Bell South uses windoze because it is a nightmare paying my bill online. Since I am on a slow dial-up their servers keep timing out on me. I notice windoze does this a lot more *nix servers do. Later Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On 11/28/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/28/05, Alexander Kirillov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? Actually, I'm not sure. I've always edited nsswitch.conf to get it to do what I want, with good results. I see with strace that when I ping somehost, both nsswitch.conf and host.conf are opened. The man pages don't reveal anything about their relationship, so I guess I'll have to take a look at the glibc sources tonight. As close as I can tell from reading the code (which is to say, I am making an only slightly educated guess), the 'order' keyword in host.conf is pretty much ignored by current glibc versions. Host.conf is only consulted by the libnss_files.so module, and then only for the 'multi' option. The order in nsswitch.conf is authoritative. This seems to be confirmed by a few strace ping attempts with various configurations. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
