Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
From: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) I wouldn't. While LibreOffice may have some advances at the moment, I'm still interested in following main-line OOo - now being setting under Apache. Please do not force us to convert from OO to LO. I have no problem with separate installs for each, but there will be those (like me) that want the official OO installs. That said, I have more confidence in Apache managing OO than I do TDF with LO, having observed TDF's mailing lists for several months (before finally dropping off in favor of Apache OO). I know others will have different opinions; but that (again) is why we should allow those using OO to remain using OO. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
BRM wrote: From: Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátalscarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) I wouldn't. While LibreOffice may have some advances at the moment, I'm still interested in following main-line OOo - now being setting under Apache. Please do not force us to convert from OO to LO. I have no problem with separate installs for each, but there will be those (like me) that want the official OO installs. That said, I have more confidence in Apache managing OO than I do TDF with LO, having observed TDF's mailing lists for several months (before finally dropping off in favor of Apache OO). I know others will have different opinions; but that (again) is why we should allow those using OO to remain using OO. Ben If you want it to stay in the tree, you will have to find someone to maintain it or maintain it yourself. Otherwise, it looks like OOo is going to be checking out pretty soon. I would rather stay with OOo myself but I'm not a dev and to be honest, have no interest in being one either. Just saying. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátalscarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess Openoffice is a thing of the past now. Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
Yeap there is a version for windows and it works fine. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátalscarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess Openoffice is a thing of the past now. Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) Yep, I use it on my Windows 7 machine at work, everything is fine. Also available for Macintosh users (or Mac as they seem to call it these days).
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 15:56:57 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátalscarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess Openoffice is a thing of the past now. Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) Yep, I use it on my Windows 7 machine at work, everything is fine. Also available for Macintosh users (or Mac as they seem to call it these days). All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 15:56:57 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tomáš Chvátalscarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice (those patches included in mainline), and using the two I can honestly say there's really no difference as far as I can tell, aside from the splash screen. Somebody posted about some Sun templates a while back... maybe something proprietary like that is changed, but OpenTemplate.org is meant to replace those anyway. I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) OK. I just wanted to make sure I was reading that right. I guess Openoffice is a thing of the past now. Question, is libreoffice available on winders too? I need to put that on my bro's rig to if it is. My bro still uses winders. I been waiting on him to get up some cash to build a new rig with Gentoo on it. ;-) Yep, I use it on my Windows 7 machine at work, everything is fine. Also available for Macintosh users (or Mac as they seem to call it these days). All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. -- Regards, Mick Yes, but give it a credit. This big monster of code, compiles without a hitch. KFir
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process.
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process. By about +3G may be more! -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process. By about +3G may be more! I think this is not so with the new 3.4.x versions...
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process. By about +3G may be more! I think this is not so with the new 3.4.x versions... This is so far. root@fireball / # du -shc /var/tmp/portage/app-office/ 2.6G/var/tmp/portage/app-office/ 2.6Gtotal root@fireball / It's not done yet either. My /var is at 94% so I am moving some http-rep* stuff out of the way. One of these days, I'm just going to mount it on tmpfs and let it rip. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced?
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 11:54 -0500, Dale wrote: Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-07-28 12:00 PM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 28 Jul 2011 16:45:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: All sounds good, except that libreoffice requires acres of space to emerge and on at least two machines I'll have to move to binary. Is it much worse than OpenOffice? Build times are nearly identical on my system but I haven't paid attention to temp space needed during the emerge process. By about +3G may be more! I think this is not so with the new 3.4.x versions... This is so far. root@fireball / # du -shc /var/tmp/portage/app-office/ 2.6G/var/tmp/portage/app-office/ 2.6Gtotal root@fireball / It's not done yet either. My /var is at 94% so I am moving some http-rep* stuff out of the way. One of these days, I'm just going to mount it on tmpfs and let it rip. lol Dale :-) :-) For systems without enough space I just map some more with nfs (before you start obviously) - yes it is a lot slower, and you need a reliable network with nfs over tcp for best reliability but it works fine. BillK
